1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: This week, I have someone very exciting. You might have 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: seen her new show on Peacock Come Out, Older, Wiser, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: and Hotter, Serena Carrigan. Welcome to Casual Kay Queen, how 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: are you? I'm good? How are you? 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm so glad to be here with you. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you to be here. How has 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: everything been with the show coming out? 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: It's been amazing. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: It was three years in the making, so it's crazy 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: for it to like finally be out for people to 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: see it. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: And I'm so proud of what we made. And did 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: you enjoy it? 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I loved it. I was binge watching all of last 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: night and on my ride here I was on episode five. 17 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Okay, great, it gets kind of crazy after episode five. 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Well you just buried your ex. I did just do 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: that and made it to the show and Ali. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: Isn't it a great idea to just like bury our 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: axes for them? 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Very important? 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: And I love how Felix was like, I really don't 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: need to know about your past. 25 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: You though it's part of my pot, you know what 26 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean? 27 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: And that killed me. It's the plot. It's literally my 28 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: pot I need to say that more writing. But you 29 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: are known as the Queen of confidence. What mind shift 30 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: did you have to really get you into that? Or 31 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: have you always been this confident? 32 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Definitely not. 33 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I wrote that on my Instagram bio 34 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: in like twenty seventeen. I was like, I'm the Queen 35 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: of confidence and I saved a seat for you at 36 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: my throne because I wanted to embody that, not because 37 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: I was that or I'm like coming from a place 38 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: of authority. Literally, I just wanted to become that and 39 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: realizing that I had tools that helped me become confident 40 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: that I could like help other people. And I think 41 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: for me, confidence means becoming your own best friend. Do 42 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: you always like your best friend? Does she piss you off? 43 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Does she annoy you? Do you think that she has 44 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: an ugly outfit? 45 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes? 46 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Yes? 47 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: But do we go to bat for her? Do we 48 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: ride for her? Do we pick her up when she's down, 49 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: like if she got ghosted? 50 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: Do we say like yeah, like you're not gonna end 51 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: up with anyone, or we're like that guy, like let's 52 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: go on a day, let's. 53 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Go have fun, Let's go out with our friends, you 54 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 55 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's really what I think confidence is, and 56 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: like talking to myself in that way of being my 57 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: own best friend is really what helped me get there. 58 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Everyone always says that you have to love yourself first 59 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: to be able to move on in a relationship anything. 60 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: So I love that whole thing because you really do 61 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: have to love yourself and be confident with yourself, because 62 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: then you're never gonna your own person. 63 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: Right And it's like not realistic that you're going to 64 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: love yourself all the time, but you could be your 65 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: best friend all the time. 66 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Percent. So when was your rise to influencing This. 67 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Is kind of crazy. 68 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 3: So I was working at Refounding twenty nine as a 69 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: video producer for three and a half years. Two weeks 70 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: before the pandemic, I quit my job and I was like, 71 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: I want to build my empire. 72 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: And the head of my department. 73 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Was like what Like he like laughed, he was like okay, 74 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: And I was like I had no idea what that meant, 75 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: but I knew that I had to do with confidence, 76 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Little Dino. It actually had to do with dating too, 77 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: and I love talking about dating, and I think that 78 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: my advice for anyone who wants to jump from their 79 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: corporate job or try something or create something is really 80 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: just like think about what you love to do and 81 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: what you love to talk about, what brings you joy, 82 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, And so when I thought about that, confidence 83 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: was one of those things. But two weeks after I 84 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: quit my job, lockdown happened. So I was jobless, single, 85 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: stuck in the Lower East Side apartment and you know, 86 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: really confused, as many of us were, And I started 87 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: going live on Instagram every day. It was called Quarantini's 88 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: at the SFK, like five pm of like get up? 89 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: When did SFK happen? 90 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: When I got to college, I was like I could 91 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: literally lie about anything. 92 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell everyone my middle name is. 93 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: It was really me talking to myself in like your 94 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: screen of Amar again, like hyping myself up and having 95 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: this like persona that I could just kept tapping into. 96 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: Little did I know, like ten years later, I'm thirty 97 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: one and I'm still using something that. 98 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: Really helped me as now like my career. 99 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: So I was getting drunk on Instagram Live and then 100 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I was like what are single people doing? And I 101 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: had someone set me up on Instagram Live date a 102 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: blind date. 103 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: So I would go. 104 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: Live and then someone would be like, this is the 105 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: username and a purpose and would pop in and I 106 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: called that show Let's say date and I did fifteen 107 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: men in twenty twenty. We had three seasons of the 108 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: show Bumble bought like a month of episodes, like it 109 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: was crazy. I hired a producer so to vet all 110 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: the guys because it was completely blind. 111 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Wait. 112 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so people would like submit their restaurants and stuff. 113 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: People were tuning the fends and neither did my boyfriend 114 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: and I was like, what were you during the lockdown? 115 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: I was like I had a tiktoks. I was doing 116 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: writing gang exactly literally same. 117 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: But after a while I was like, okay, I'm not 118 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: a dancer, so I'm going to date professionally. 119 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So did a network see you doing this on Instagram 120 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: live or did you go to producer saying this is 121 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. 122 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: At the time, like everything was on pause. 123 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: So I hired a freelance producer and I said like, 124 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: can you help me out and bat all these men? 125 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Like we had like an email that was like dat 126 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: ak I g I think that because the world was 127 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: ending at that time or so we thought, yeah, people 128 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: were just like, I'll do it. I'm down, And it 129 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: was kind of crazy because you were like on your 130 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: couch during lockdown watching me go on these live dates. 131 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Well it was comical too, probably crazy. 132 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: It's so funny, such a time completely unedited and it 133 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: was just like you were fly on the wall watching 134 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: me date. So that was really how it took off. 135 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: And then that kind of segued into my card games. 136 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: I have Let's Date, I've given that to you. Let's 137 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: I just gave to you. And these are games that 138 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: are like really created to help you on dates or 139 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: you know, after. 140 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: The date I was my boyfriend. 141 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you will have the best sex to real life, 142 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: but use protection because there have been pregnancies from this game. 143 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. 144 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: There's been proposals, pregnancies, bed's been broken, I've gotten invoices 145 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: for beds, like literally, I've like gotten pictures being like 146 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: what did you do? And I was like, I'm sorry, 147 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm just a matrician. No, literally, there's magic sprinkled in 148 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: those cards. So that's really like how it took off. 149 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: Really just like I love dating, I love connecting with people, 150 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: I love talking to people, and I wanted to make 151 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: them feel more confident on dates. That's really like how 152 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: it became so the queen of Confidence thing kind of 153 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: trickled into that. 154 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I love that. I mean not for a nothing. Now 155 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with card games and doing that stuff because 156 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: you love it. I don't know what it is, but 157 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: when you're like reading something with your partner and doing it, it's, oh, 158 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: well the game is telling me to do it. Let's 159 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: do it for the game exactly. 160 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: That's literally why. 161 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, none of the questions in my card game or 162 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: like action, it's not like be like, you know, like 163 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: give them blowjobs. 164 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: It's like not in there if you want to do that. 165 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: It's all actually like about intimacy and just creating connection. 166 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: And it leads to it leads to that, like there's 167 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: one question at the end of let's say it. 168 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: That's like, what is one thing you've wanted to ask 169 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: me but you haven't yet? And that's when the guy 170 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: proposed is. 171 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: That so cute? 172 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, that's cute? 173 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Really right? I was like, am I visually the wedding? 174 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Well, you're basically matchmaking at this point. Literally that should 175 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: be a second career. Have you ever cringed at yourself 176 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: on TikTok, especially from doing like the dating lives that 177 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I had no idea about, Like did you ever sit 178 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: back and be like, well, this was all worth it, 179 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: but this was also cringe. 180 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so cringe, all of it really, 181 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: you know. And the funny thing about TikTok is like 182 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: the algorithm just. 183 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: Feeds you old videos. 184 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: So I see people liking a video from like twenty nineteen, 185 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even look. 186 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 2: Like myself anymore. 187 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 3: Like I used to have bleach blonde hair, eyelash extensions 188 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: like Translas. 189 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Everyone went through that phase and it was honestly, I 190 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: did that my senior year of high school, so five 191 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: years ago. It was the thing. 192 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 2: It was a thing. It was a time. 193 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: But in general, yeah, like a lot of the content 194 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I've made is cringe, But who cares? 195 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: Like, once you realize that. 196 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: No one actually cares about what you're making or who 197 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: you are, like they're really thinking about themselves, it's so liberating. 198 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like people don't actually care. 199 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: They might leave a comment, they might see something mean, 200 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: they might set it to their friends, but like they're 201 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: really thinking about themselves. 202 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: And the way that. 203 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: I proved this theory is, I want you to tell 204 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: me three Instagram stories that you tapped through yesterday verbadeim 205 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: like text on screen? 206 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: Who said it? What do they say? 207 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 208 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: I tap all the time, but can you remember? 209 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: So now you can't remember single, no, not one of them, 210 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: but you probably remember the stories you posted yesterday. 211 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Oh probably, Yeah, that's only worry about yourself. 212 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: So how liberating is that? 213 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Like you're tapping all day and you don't even like, 214 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: you don't even remember what you're seeing. So that really 215 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: goes to show you that no one cares. And like, 216 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: so what I would say is like it's okay to 217 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: be cringe. 218 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: Also it's okay to delete the video if you don't 219 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: like it. 220 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: But like I never was afraid of just going out 221 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: there and doing it. That dating show so funny, it's 222 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: so cringey, Like I think it brought people a lot 223 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: of joy during a dark time. 224 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: And also it. 225 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: Definitely cemented me as like I don't want to call 226 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: myself a dating expert, but like I dated a lot 227 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: of guys and I loved that the dates were blind 228 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: and I really went into a open minded. 229 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: But did you actually ever meet these guys? Oh? I decided? 230 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I did, oh for sure. 231 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: For the last season, I had my audience pick a 232 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: winner because I couldn't, and they picked a winner and 233 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: he ended up flying out to New York till for 234 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: the finale, got him a hotel production budget. Oh well, 235 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: just me, yeah, like me to stay at the hotel 236 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: with you. He's like no, and I was like, okay, fair. 237 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: It didn't work out, but like the audience was like 238 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: so obsessed with it, and I thought I was in love. 239 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I figured that out later. 240 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: But then he went on too Hot to Handle and 241 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I made I set you up for them. 242 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like literally, there's Jaws being dropped in the studio. 243 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: No. Literally, I was fuming. I was like, do I 244 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: get some kind of credit? But then he like got 245 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: kicked off the show as a villain, so it was 246 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: for the best. I think it was more about confidence 247 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: in dating and realizing that, like you're gonna date a lot, 248 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: and like you might not like the person, it doesn't 249 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: mean that they're a bad person, just means that they're 250 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: not for you. And that's the same thing when someone 251 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: rejects to you. It doesn't mean that something's wrong with you. 252 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: It just means that the person didn't like you that much, 253 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: and that's okay, there's someone that will. 254 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: I feel like COVID also it either made people have 255 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: tough skin or made them fall off the ladder right. 256 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Also with that, though, everyone was I think more confident 257 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: doing that because it was behind a screen. 258 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: For sure, there was a full audience watching them. 259 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Though I literally would have to be like, don't read 260 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: the comments, because you know, the comments would come up 261 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: and people would like have them so much fun like 262 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: commenting that was also part of the show. 263 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: But I would always be like, over the comments, just 264 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: look at me. 265 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah no, I mean like I had to 266 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: be funny, engaging, pay attention to the audience, pay attent 267 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: to the producer it's texting me. But also like make 268 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: them feel comfortable on a date, because it's important too that, 269 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: like they're a human being and they deserve that. 270 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: And maybe everyone just was in a moment, because. 271 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: I think ever was the moment. I still wish they were. 272 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: I feel like the internet's gotten a little scarier since COVID. 273 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I also feel like dating in general, 274 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's easy at all. R Right now, 275 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: my friends are like, Giya, you're so lucky that you 276 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend. 277 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: How did you meet your boyfriend? 278 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: I met him at the Jersey Shore going into college. 279 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: This is what I would say to your friends. 280 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: Stop saying it's hard, because you create your plot, like 281 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: you literally, like your words really cement your reality. And like, 282 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: if you keep saying that dating is hard, it's going 283 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: to be hard. If you say it's an adventure, it 284 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: can be challenging on figuring it out. It'll happen when 285 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: it's supposed to happen. That's a way better outlook, and 286 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: that energy like will make you magnetic. 287 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I agree that's the whole thing too, though I feel 288 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: like you do have to love yourself too, and to 289 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: be that confident person out. 290 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: In the dating world, you have to know that your 291 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: person is out there. 292 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I also just feel like when you're not 293 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: confident with yourself and you go out and try to date, 294 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: your insecurities like almost radiate from your body for sure. 295 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: And also you settle for less than you deserve because 296 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, like there's no other guy 297 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: out here that's like paying attention to me, so like 298 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: I have to just like panner to him. And like like, no, 299 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: you really do have to be at a place where you. 300 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: Know what you deserve so important? 301 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: How did you ever get over worrying about what people 302 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: thought of you? Like do you read the comments, like 303 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: even now with your show Aeron on Peacock, does that 304 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: overwhelm you? Because this show obviously is so important to 305 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: you and you've been working three years on it, so 306 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: with everything, and you know your personality and your confidence, 307 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: do you ever think you mask that. 308 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: I actually like wish I had thicker skin. I'm so 309 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: sensitive and I think that. 310 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: That's why I had to build a SFK persona. No, 311 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm such a teddy bear. Like that's what my boyfriend 312 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: calls me. He calls me a teddy bear, Like I'm 313 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: so sensy. And yeah, like I obviously seen some you know, 314 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: like reviews or comments or things from the show, and 315 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: it is hurtful, but it's also like then you go 316 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: make it, Like it was really hard to make this show, 317 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: and it was like an incredible process and I had 318 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: a joy making it. 319 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: It's so easy to stait and criticize something. 320 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: Of course, the amount of people that worked on it, 321 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: the amount of crew that were so incredible to work with. 322 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: It's art, and like that's the thing. 323 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: When you create something and you put out into the world, 324 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: people are going to say, you know, their thoughts. You 325 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: have to also realize that, like it comes with the territory, 326 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: as you know, you better build a thick skin because 327 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: that's what this world is. 328 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: My parents said something great. 329 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: They were like, at least people are talking about your 330 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: show and reviewing it, Like people would killed to have 331 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: something reviewed of themselves, right, whether it's a product or show, whatever, 332 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: it is. 333 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: The fact that it's just out in the world being 334 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: talked about and you're getting the press about it. Take it. 335 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Take it for sure, and take the negative comments with 336 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: a grain AsSalt one hundred percent. It's just not even 337 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: worth it. And it's so incredible that you even created 338 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: this production in general, and that you can say this 339 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: is my show, and that's really cool. 340 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate that so much, and it's such an important 341 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: reminder that like people are gonna always talk, so you 342 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: might as well just do what you want. 343 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: To do exactly right. I mean I felt it comments 344 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: at this point. 345 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. 346 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: Same And people are like, you're deleting your comments, and 347 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: first of all, it's my page it's my video. I 348 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: don't even see them. Yeah, of course we're gonna filter them. 349 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: Why do I need your bad energy? 350 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I get those comments all the time. Oh, Gia, come on, 351 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: you're deleting your comments. I'm like, no, babe, honestly, the 352 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: abs deleting them for me exactly. So you don't want 353 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: to go onto your photo and you're like, oh, this 354 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: was such a cute post and see negativity. What you 355 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: don't see is better And I think it makes me 356 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: healthier and just more stable not seeing them rather than 357 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: seeing that. 358 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: Out of sight, out of mind. 359 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: And it's so because like the amount of amazing positive 360 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: feedback I've gotten about my show, it's so incredible, and 361 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: then you get that one mean comment and it just 362 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: like sticks in your head and that sucks. So it's 363 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: like it really is about filtering it out for sure. 364 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Like I'm not one of those people. So I gooes that, 365 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: like goes on Reddit and reads itarch Like, why would 366 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: you invite that negativity into your Like you have people. 367 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: In your life. I hope you do. 368 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: You know whoever's listening that like are supportive of you 369 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: and will give you constructive feedback. I think it is 370 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: good to be surround yourself. People that aren't yes man no, 371 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: I will like tell you hey, like you could have 372 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 3: done this better, or like I think you could say 373 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: this in a different way. 374 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Those are people that you care about. Their opinions. 375 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: You can't take, you know, crop from people you don't 376 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: even know that are like user of five four three 377 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: two one. 378 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, who are you get a username? Stay on business? 379 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: If you want to talk to me, let's have a conversation, 380 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: Let's have a zoom. But you won't do that. 381 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: Come on Instagram live with me. Literally. I feel like 382 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people love to know what influencer events 383 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: are like, and if they're all, you know, talked up 384 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to what they are, I feel like it's a hit 385 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: or mess right. Sometimes you go there, do what you 386 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: gotta do and leave. Other times I really do enjoy myself. 387 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: Did you enjoy yourself at my niches and nooks? And 388 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: you're amuzing like you come in in your energy. It's 389 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: such beautiful energy. And it's hard because you know what 390 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: is the intention behind an influencer event, usually just to 391 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,479 Speaker 3: get content or to meet the brands. 392 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: It really is as much as people think it's social 393 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: hour for us it's really not. Half the time I'm 394 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: walking into an influencer event to meet the social media coordinator, 395 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the person that handles their brand partnerships. Because it's a 396 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: business meeting, you're going in there as almost like after 397 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: your corporate job, you go out for drinks with your coworkers, 398 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: or you go meet up and have a meeting with 399 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: another company. You're forming a relationship. And then, yes, do 400 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: you meet other influencers there. Sure, it's really fun for 401 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: us to you know, meet other influencers form relationships, like 402 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: that was my first time meeting you, but we hit 403 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: it off, you know, and it is fun to meet 404 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: other people, But you really are going there to form 405 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: a relationship with the brand. 406 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: I think it's inherently transactional, and so that's why that 407 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: we've heard we've seen many videos of people complaining and 408 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: feeling like people aren't spreading the love. 409 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: Which like, is so fair. Also, I remove myself from 410 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: some of those events. 411 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes I come in with a clear goal, like is 412 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: my goal to make friends, or is my goal to 413 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: meet the brand reps? Is my goal to take content? 414 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: Like you have to really go in with it. But 415 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: it is a job, and I think that that's the mistake. 416 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: They think that we're just oh invited and it's for 417 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: the brand and that's it, and there's a lot behind it. 418 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm very also much team like not talking shit about 419 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: other influencers, Like I don't like doing that online, like 420 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: going online. 421 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: I think that we have to protect one another. 422 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: I think it's the first female founded industry where like 423 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: we are dominating this industry and it's important to like 424 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: stick up for one another. I know that's not really 425 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: the question that you asked, but I think it is 426 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: important to note. 427 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: What was your take on, you know, the New York 428 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: influencer drama that we're. 429 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: All boring, all boring. 430 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm no influencer, I'm an icon, So like, I don't 431 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: know what to say about that. 432 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I felt so bad because this past weekend at Parker House, 433 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: I actually met Danielle. They're the best, by the way, 434 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: so sweet, and she looks at me and she was 435 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: like to her boyfriend like she's more famous than me, 436 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: and I go, girl, no, like, don't even say that. 437 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: She was so beautiful, so sweet, great, And I think 438 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: everyone just has their own way of creating content, but 439 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I also their content comes up on my free page 440 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: that's the type of content that I genuinely like to see. Lifestyle, beauty, fashion, 441 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: That's what I enjoy. So everyone enjoys different content, But 442 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: why are you gonna call like just oh, this group 443 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: of friends boring. 444 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: I also think like at the end of the day, 445 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: women get a lot for like being successful. 446 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: I think it's hard. I think that it's such a 447 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: new industry. 448 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: And also I think the thing about it, it's like 449 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: it's democratized, right, like anyone could blow up overnight, anyone 450 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: could be the next Alex or so because of that, 451 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of animosity towards people that have made 452 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: it or have followings that are like why not me? 453 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: Why her? 454 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: And then that creates that like feeling of jealousy, and 455 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: I think that that's what it is. Do I think 456 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: that like, yes, there needs to be more people of 457 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: color and black creators in the spotlight, and typically the 458 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: algorithm might favor white creators absolutely, And I think that 459 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: that's part of what the conversation was. But in general, 460 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: like these blanket statements of like all in NYC in 461 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: placers are boring, is just. 462 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: Like become one and make it less boring. 463 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so easy to criticize kind on It is true. 464 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: It really does take a lot, you know, every day 465 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: for us to like get up preate content post. Some 466 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: days we don't feel like doing it. Some days maybe 467 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: we don't want to post online and see the comments 468 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and deal with it. They probably felt so just marriage 469 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: to post online for a little bit, because why would 470 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: you want to receive the hate and then you know what, 471 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: they honestly picked back up better than ever. 472 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: It could be a scary space, but you also just 473 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: like have to trust you of the best intentions and 474 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: like show up as a nice person. Yeah, I think, 475 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: like if you don't talk about people and like your 476 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: supportive of others, Like I don't know, I think that 477 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: that's like the best you can do. 478 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: I agree, you talked about having a major glow up 479 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: and you are stunning. We need to know the tips 480 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: and tricks, so don't tell everyone, Okay what happened. 481 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: I think like the eyelash extension is over. 482 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: I used to bleach blonde hair like chopped, although I 483 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: love a bob, but I don't know. I think it's 484 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: about leaning more into like your natural. 485 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: Features, if that makes sense. Not to say that I 486 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: don't have a lash live lesson I have highlights. 487 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: Like when I say natural, I mean that very I 488 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: don't mean that like actually a surface level. I made 489 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: a video like, you know, kind of making fun of 490 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: how I used to look and someone calm day. You know, 491 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: you shouldn't put your former, younger self down, And I 492 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: think there is some validity to that where it's like 493 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: being in your twenties and even your thirties, whatever age 494 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: you're at, like it's about experimenting with your look and 495 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: figure out who you are. And I feel like I'm 496 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: more comfortable with myself now, but like it's okay to 497 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: try different things, die your hair, like figure who you are. 498 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: That would be the tip for the glove, I agree. 499 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean even now, just little things. I don't learn 500 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: nearly as much makeup. You know, I'll do a skin 501 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: tint instead of foundation. It just makes the world of 502 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: a difference. You know, why take it on when you 503 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: can just you know, have your natural skin coming through. 504 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: You also have a new book coming out, Let's Date. 505 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: What is your best piece of dating advice? 506 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: The one that I said earlier, which is like the 507 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: way you talk about your dating life is so important. 508 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: It really creates the reality so like really try to 509 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: refrain from saying things like it sucks, I'm never going 510 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 3: to meet someone. 511 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: It's so hard. 512 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 3: Stop saying that that's bad energy. You got to like 513 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: really change the way your mindset and your mentality, because 514 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: I think that you become more open too. I think 515 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: obviously you have to really work on the relationship with 516 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: yourself because if you don't, then like you will accept 517 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: things that you don't deserve. And it could be very 518 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: subtle things, but you'll kind of like turn a blind 519 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: eye to like, you know, maybe him not being as 520 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 3: responsive or like, and then I would say, like for 521 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: a first date, two drinks and ditch, Like, you do 522 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: not need a third drink. Nothing good ever happens after 523 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: the third drink. They need to earn their time with you. 524 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: And I think that two drinks two hours is enough 525 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: for a first day. 526 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: And every time I've stayed longer, I've read. 527 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: It and like, I don't know, it's just like it's 528 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: not your best self. If we're talking about heterosex relations, 529 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: like they're men, Like they're hunters. If they want to 530 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: see you again, they will text you twenty four hours 531 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: and they'll see you again. 532 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. You're now in an amazing healthy relationship. 533 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: But what was your worst New York City dating story? 534 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have so many Wait how many 535 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: people have you dated? 536 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: They will like literally like five hundred, Like my diary 537 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: goes nuts. 538 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: This is why I have to write the book. 539 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: Like I was like, I'm ready, the memoir is gonna 540 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: go crazy too, but that I need some more time. 541 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: I dated fifty people alone on Instagram Live and twenty twenty. 542 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: So think about how many other people I've dated. It's 543 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: had so much experience. 544 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: I've only had two boyfriends. Love love that for you, 545 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: But I'm like to my sisters, you guys come to 546 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: me for everything. I know everything, Maybe I. 547 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: Don't you do, Like it's listen, it's about having a 548 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: healthy relationship. 549 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 550 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: I think I did a lot of things for the plot. 551 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: This is in the show. It's an EPI five. Basically, 552 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: I just remember, like I met this guy. We went 553 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: on this first date. I had the best time, and 554 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: then for the second day he was like, I'm gonna 555 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: cook dinner at your apartment, which like seemed really romantic, 556 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: but like it wasn't because like I don't own like 557 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: anything for the kitchen, so like I spent like literally 558 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: hundreds of dollars like pots, pans, like serving bulls because 559 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to seem so legit. 560 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: He cooked me pasta which was like sex scene. 561 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: Sweet, but then like didn't clean up, and so it 562 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: was like the next morning was just like gross in 563 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: my kitchen? 564 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: Or was that my job? 565 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 3: And then he ghosted, so I was like, I don't know, 566 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: Like the pasta. 567 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: Was good, but it wasn't that good, you know? 568 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: And also why couldn't you go to his apartment. 569 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: He didn't have a kitchen. No, no, like I can't. 570 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: I feel like you just used me for my kitchen. 571 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: Now that I'm thinking maybe he needed dinner. He was 572 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: probably hungry. Yeah, oh my god. Okay, so your boyfriend 573 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: Felix is younger than you. Yeah, are there any times 574 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 3: where you feel the age gap? Only like when I 575 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 3: want to watch movies, I'm like, have you seen like 576 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 3: Sex and the City, which is fair like he's a guy, 577 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: so like it's like but we played the first couple times, 578 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: so he's like. 579 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: It kind of like looks like old. I'm like, no, no, 580 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: like that gets iconic, or like the movie White Chicks. 581 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen. 582 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Of course it's a classic. 583 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Like he hasn't seen it? 584 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Why, Like I don't know, like how old to say? 585 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: He's twenty five, Oh okay, so like around my age. 586 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 587 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: But well now, like I'm like, what's his excuse? 588 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he doesn't have an agass movie ever. My boyfriend, 589 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: for example, didn't watch Greece, and I'm. 590 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: Like, how okay, he's definitely hasn't seen Grease. It's literally 591 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: my favorite movie ever. Or sound in music like, but 592 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: those are more like girly. I guess those are for 593 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: the girls a little bit. 594 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, musicals, I guess. But then him and I were 595 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Greece probably yeah, a couple of years ago, and I'm like, 596 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: do you even know who you are? No idea. 597 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: I think that that's only the times that comes up 598 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: where we'll like be looking for a movie and it 599 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 3: was like made in like twenty ten. 600 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, like, look, let's get something more current. 601 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, Honestly, like I think, if anything, it's 602 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: more like a lot of people are like when are 603 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: you gonna get married? When are you gonna get engaged? 604 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: I really don't feel a rush. We haven't even hit 605 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: two years yet, so like there isn't a rush. I 606 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: think because of my age, people would assume that that's 607 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: what I want. Obviously I've talked about it. It's definitely 608 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: gonna happen. Maybe if he was in as thorties, it 609 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: would happen faster and it would accelerate. But like, we're 610 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: going on our pace and there's no right pace to 611 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: go out. 612 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Are you looking to have kids and stuff? 613 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm mad for sure. 614 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Wow, a whole big family. 615 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're both only children, so like we're like, 616 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: hell no, we gotta have more than no way. 617 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, so you really want your kids to 618 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: have a sibling? 619 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 620 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: What would be your perfect number if you could, like, 621 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, light your scratch. 622 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: Two or three? What about you? Like, what was your experience? 623 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm forever grateful that I have four sisters, so we're 624 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: all best friends. The house is never quiet, you're never bored. 625 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: You always have a sibling to go to. 626 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: So sisters is iconic. 627 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: It's great, it's so fun. You have to like, first 628 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: of all, be like very financially well off to take 629 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: care and provide for your four children. Me just watching 630 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: my mom over the years college closed, especially if you 631 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: have girls. Girls are so much more expensive than guys 632 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and traveling. Thank god, we've always been Okay, I can't speak, 633 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: but my mom always says that she was the one 634 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: running around taking care of all of us, and my 635 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: dad was like by the bar enjoying a drink. So 636 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: my perfect number is like two. My boyfriend wants three, 637 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but then the odd numbers. 638 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: Start the problem. 639 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 640 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: Me and my boyfriend were both born and raised New 641 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: York City, so we're going to be here, and I 642 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: feel like having three in New York is like crazy. 643 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: So where did you grow up in New York? 644 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: I grew up on the Upperast Side and then he 645 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: grew up in Brookland. 646 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: So he's always been in the city. Yeah that's how 647 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: you met him. Yeah, I went on his podcast. I 648 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: literally didn't what I was talking into. 649 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: Neither did he. 650 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: Honestly, he thought I was interesting, but I don't think 651 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: he was trying to like sleep with me. Yeah. 652 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: I love that. So is he in the influencing world? 653 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: He does podcast and then he's like in venture and 654 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: like is really interested in like building businesses and stuff. 655 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh so cool. So like a lot of like entrepreneurial 656 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: all shit stuff Oka. 657 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: But I do bring him to a lot of the 658 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: influencer events. 659 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: And stuff, and I mean that's fo he wants to 660 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: go with you. My friend thinks like, oh gee, I'm 661 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: like invading your space. 662 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, what does your boyfriend? 663 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: So he has his own live streaming network for sports cars. 664 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really nice to be with men that are 665 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: like doing their own thing. And I have like our 666 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs in that sense because we're so independent too. 667 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: You know what makes your relationship work and how is 668 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: it different from your past relationships? Like do you think 669 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: he's the one? Do you really see a future with him? 670 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Even though of the age difference. 671 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: The age difference, like isn't a thing, Like we're six 672 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: years apart. Our parents were both six years apart. Like 673 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: I think majority. I always used to think it was age, 674 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 3: And I think he supersedes my level. I think he 675 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: has the majority of a forty year old. That's just 676 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: because of his upbringing. He's also European, He's French. And 677 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: this is actually a great piece of dating advice. I 678 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: used to set my hinge to like if I was 679 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: twenty nine or like thirty and above, like I would 680 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: never go younger. I was like, there's no way, Like 681 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 3: I have a business, I'm like a battie, Like I 682 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: need like an older guy. Younger guys won't get it, 683 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: and like that was a big misstep on mine because 684 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: I just completely exed out a whole group of incredible 685 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: men that, yeah, might be younger, but we all met, 686 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: you know, men in their thirties forties that are still 687 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: like babies, right, So and so I think it's about 688 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: really like opening up, letting go of your prejudice, which 689 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: I had. And I remember when we first started dating 690 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: and I found out his age, I was like, oh 691 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: my god, what. 692 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: And then like when he reassured me, it was like, 693 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 2: it's not the thing. 694 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: A lot of my girlfriends have been older, or like, 695 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm just very mature for my age. I was like, cool, 696 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: it literally hasn't come up except for like white chicks. Yeah, 697 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: what made him different? I think it's that from the beginning, 698 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't editing myself. I wasn't pretending, I wasn't acting, 699 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: I wasn't s FK. I really was me, and he 700 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: saw me for me and he loved me for that. 701 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: And I think that that's what you really need to 702 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: look for. I found that before when I date, I 703 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: would always want to say the right thing, the right joke, 704 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: like make myself a certain way, and like you really 705 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: have to just be yourself, which is such a like 706 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: corny thing to say, but it's really true. And I 707 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: think another thing that makes us where like we're really 708 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: really excellent communicators. So like things come up, conflict comes up, 709 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: and I think that I grew up with divorce parents, 710 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: so I thought that like conflict like meant the end 711 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: you have to do whatever you can do to not 712 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: have conflict in your relationship. 713 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: But that's never going to happen. It's actually about how 714 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: you work through. 715 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: How we are able to like have a disagreement and 716 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: we don't like yell at each other or like get 717 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: upset about it. I had a relationship when I would 718 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: get in a fact with my boyfriend, he would like 719 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: leave or like and I couldn't reach him for days. 720 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's crazy, Like you have to be able 721 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: to really work through. 722 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Leave or you scream at each other and or the 723 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: one silent tree when the one person always has to 724 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: be right. 725 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, So with us, it's like when we 726 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: have a problem. 727 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: We both want the resolution to be where we're both happy, 728 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: not I was right, You're wrong. 729 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: It's like how can we see ey to eye? 730 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: Hear? 731 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: But that also creates such a healthy, stable, just environment 732 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: for your relationship. But it also probably makes the both 733 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: of you also so confident in your relationship. For sure, 734 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: when you're doing like that toxic fighting both go crazy, 735 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: then it makes you both insecure in the relationship terrible. 736 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: So you grew up in New York City and your 737 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: mom actually created the show My Super. 738 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: Sweet Sixteen, and she works out on TV and she 739 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: created that show. She didn't let me have one because 740 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: she was afraid that, like I would come off as 741 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: a brat, which is fair, Like they did make the 742 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: girlly scene that way. It's a reality show about girls 743 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: that would have their sweet sixteen. They would always get 744 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: a range Rover. They would also like get like a 745 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: pimple before like the party, and like it was like drama, 746 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: but it was like tonic. She was just like, you 747 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: can't be honest, we don't have the typonoey. We're not 748 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: spending like hundreds of thousands of dollars on a party. 749 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: But it was so epic. 750 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because well, the parents would obviously pay for all 751 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, of course. So what was your child's 752 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: like growing up living in New York City. I always 753 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: imagine growing up in New York City like a girl. 754 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. 755 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: I mean, like I didn't have that kind of money, 756 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: but a lot of my friends did. It was a 757 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: level of wealth that was like kind of insane, but honestly, 758 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: like worked out. 759 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: In my favor because that's why I had so much drive. 760 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: Honestly, like growing up like that, I was like, whoa, 761 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: I want some of these things, you know, but it 762 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: was like everyone had at Hampton's house. A lot of 763 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: my friends had drivers, like so much. 764 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Access to money. 765 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: And while that could be great on some level, also 766 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: the downfall was I think that instead of parents giving 767 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: the kids attention they would give them money, they were 768 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: really actually losing out on what. 769 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: They needed the most. 770 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 3: And a lot of people that I knew, you know 771 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: growing up, like ended up going to rehab or like 772 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: having serious drug problems, just like had no drive, no anchor, right, 773 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: and so that was the downfall. Also very awesome world, 774 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: but yeah, like we didn't have basements to drink in 775 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: like in New Jersey, like we did go clubbing. Couldn't 776 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: even go to bars, like in New York you could 777 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: go clubbing because they wouldn't care. Like I remember once 778 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: I went to Lavo and I like handed in my 779 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: fag idea. I was six sixteen. I was like, also 780 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: the girl that got everyone in the fake id's like 781 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 3: they were so bad. He looked at it, he goes, 782 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: you've ever been arrested before? And I literally snatched the 783 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: idea and like I literally ran home. Growing up in 784 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: the private school system, like that was very gossip girl. 785 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: But on the flip side, like growing up in New York, 786 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: the wonderful thing about it is like taking the subway 787 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: when you're like twelve years old, you're around every type 788 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: of ethnicity, race, socioeconomic class. Like you're really like you're 789 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: so not judgmental because you're not in a car, Like 790 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: you're literally like rubbing elbows with every. 791 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: Type of person. 792 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: And I think that that's what's so beautiful about growing 793 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: up here, and the level of independence. 794 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: That you have at such a young age can only imagic, 795 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: like all the time, like just so independent. 796 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: And I think at the end of the day, like 797 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: if you have great parents that raise you and like 798 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: that you know, care about your well being, like you're good. 799 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: You made such a good point though, because you really 800 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: do open up your children just so many different things. 801 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: But then I do also see the downfall of not 802 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: showing your kids the love. That makes me sad. 803 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that is very awesome girl too. It's 804 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: very like Chuck Bass coded. Oh yeah, there's so many 805 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: of him. 806 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: And Blair when she was like begging for it for sure, 807 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: I know it really was. 808 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: Everyone asked me that, and honestly, it's true. There was 809 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: a lot of similars. And also the show was filming 810 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: when I was in high school. I was obsessed. Also, 811 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: my name is Serena. My mom's name was Lily, like 812 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: the main character show God. 813 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: Which is crazy. There was like a lot of weird overlaps. 814 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, when they brought the show back, I actually ended 815 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: up meeting the creator, Josh Schwartz is his name. 816 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: I was like, can I please come on make a 817 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: cameo music? For sure? And then the show got canceled. 818 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Did you watch the reboot? 819 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: No? I didn't. I was in like the background because 820 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: my mom would bring me on auditions and all the 821 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: time in New York, it's literally on Housewives. My agent 822 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: at the time called my mom and like, did you 823 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: want to be an extra Gossip Girl? I was like yes, 824 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: and I'll watch gossip Girl over and over again till 825 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: the end of time. 826 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: And Felix is kind of giving Dan right, like with 827 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: the Brooklyn. 828 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Thing podcast was a writer, same thing. What was the 829 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: most New York City thing you did as a child 830 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: that you didn't realize at the time? 831 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: Clubbing at sixteen? Like that's crazy. 832 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: I really did not go to the clubs until like 833 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: I was twenty. Yeah, but I would never even try, 834 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: like a whole broken bar or a Jersey shore bar 835 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: until I was twenty one. That would just never happen. 836 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: But think about it, these kids would just be like you, 837 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: here is my card, and the clubs don't care, like 838 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: they would get paid. 839 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: That was insane, Like thinking back, oh, crazy. 840 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: Prom We like took a yacht sailing around the Hudson River, 841 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: Like it was nuts. 842 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Like there was moments like that that were really iconic. 843 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what happen now anymore because of social 844 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: media and stuff. 845 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: Even the little things like renting a shorehouse. My boyfriend's 846 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: cousin all their friends rents at a Shorehouse. They're seniors 847 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: in high school. They got kicked out within hours of 848 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: them being there. Right, are you a Bravo fan? And 849 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: what is your favorite franchise? I heard you were also 850 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: asked to be on Summerhouse, but you turn it down. 851 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: First of all, it's so weird because, like I legit 852 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: feel like I watched you grow up, which is so 853 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: crazy because like you're such a mature, young, lovely woman. 854 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: But like, I literally can't watch your mom's season obviously 855 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: all of them when I was younger, and your mom 856 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: is an icon, but we're so fucking cute. 857 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 858 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: Obviously I love all the Housewives. I stopped watching now. 859 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: I will say nothing's like the OG, which I'm sure 860 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: you can agree. I could agree nothing's like the OG Summerhouse. 861 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: I mean listen, Like, did they offer and I turned 862 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: it out? No, they asked to jump on. 863 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: The call with me and like kind of do that 864 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: interview process? 865 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've done it and I've definitely entertained it. 866 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: They asked me for Housewives too, I'm like, I'm not 867 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: house I feel like for the pot. I think for me, 868 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: it's like my mom worked on TV, worked in unscripted Yeah, 869 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: So I saw the behind the scenes a lot, and 870 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: I think that it's a scary thing when you're on 871 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: these shows which like you can attest to and you 872 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: don't have control over your edit, and you. 873 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Also really need to be open with letting your entire 874 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: life out there, like everything rrect and if you don't 875 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: want something aired or brought up, choice, sorry if someone 876 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: brings it up and it's juicy and. 877 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: You have no control of your edit. 878 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: So I think that I owe it because of that, 879 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 3: because of her influence on like my mom. 880 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: It's just like I feel like I've never been able to. 881 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: I think it would be really fun, yeah, but I 882 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: also think, like again, I'm sensitive and I don't know 883 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: if I'm ready for that. Like I think the Housewise 884 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 3: themselves are amazing, but I think the show isn't as 885 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: good because maybe it's that like want to control over 886 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: how you're perceived. 887 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: That's where the ganging up and investigation also comes in. 888 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, we'll team up these four girls 889 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: to go against those three girls and gather all the 890 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: stuff that we can on those three because there's always 891 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: a person every season that gets ganged up on this season, Ah, 892 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: they trashed my mom, all right, they went at her. 893 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Then next season it'll be this person. And that's how 894 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: it is. Every season. They'll you'll have your down seasons, 895 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: or you'll have your seasons where they make you look 896 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: really good and you have a great edit. But I 897 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: feel like housewives, the women are obviously older. I know 898 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to make it more into a younger demographic 899 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: or you're not even younger demographics. Maybe because I kind 900 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: of know how to like play the game a little obviously, 901 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: if there was something in my life that I was 902 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: like no, But I'm already at this point where my 903 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: life is so public and I really do give my 904 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: audience everything and give my fans everything. I really don't 905 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: hide anything. I wouldn't say I would be opposed to it. 906 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: I love it, and I'd watchings. 907 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: As you were saying, like the og is better like 908 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: housewives that have families and young children and kids. It's 909 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: more enjoyable to watch them from the start to the end. 910 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: So true, and that's why I. 911 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Feel like, you know, if one day that ever happened, 912 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: like me becoming a housewife, I think that would be 913 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Andy Cochen's dream. They need thing Jersey back, how did 914 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: you come up with the idea of your show, because 915 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: it really kind of is like an autobiography in a way. Yeah, 916 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: so like how did that all come into play? 917 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: So I did a confidence comedy like one woman show. 918 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: I've done it like all over the country. I've never 919 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: done it in LA before. So I knew that I 920 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: wanted to use all of that, you know. 921 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: As a tool. You're also kind of manifesting your dream 922 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: right of going to LA. 923 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: Exactly, it was a two for one deal. And then 924 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: so I knew I wanted that to be in the show, 925 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: but it couldn't be the whole thing. Like I didn't 926 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: want it to be like a comedy special. I wanted 927 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 3: there to be a binary between SFK and Serena and 928 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: like feeling you have this persona online that you're playing 929 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: because I think that's relatable. I think y'all can relate 930 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: to that somemree and then the person that you're in 931 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: real life like that kind of like friction and tension 932 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: between the two. And so I knew that I wanted 933 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: to ce screen in real life. And then when I 934 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: was thinking about what that story was was brainstorming. I 935 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: was talking to the development executive NBC because I was 936 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: stressed about it. 937 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what to do for 938 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: the other part. And he was like, you know what, 939 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: let's not focus on the show. Let's just talk about 940 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: your life, what's been going on? 941 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: Catch me up, which was so great because it almost 942 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: when you're so trying to like find an answer, like 943 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: you can't so like take yourself out of it. And 944 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you know, I'm so exhausted, like 945 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: I just did this road trip with Felix, like by accident, 946 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: our flight got canceled. We drove from Montreal to New York. 947 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: It was like hailing, like we couldn't see. I can't drive. 948 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: And he was like, that's the show. That's sow you 949 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: going to LA is the show. And I was like, 950 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 3: oh my god. And so then it was so fun 951 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: to write because I was really like. 952 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: Wait, that's amazing. 953 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it was literally an experience of my life. 954 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, you're right, that's so interesting. Like 955 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: we're driving to LA. Everything goes wrong, We're being tested. 956 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: And you know, when you're taking a road trip with anyone, 957 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 3: like or a trip in general. 958 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: People always say it you either know if you're gonna 959 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: like be friends with this person for life, be with 960 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: this person for life after a trip. 961 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: So that's really what it was. And I really wanted 962 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: it to feel real. Like someone asked me, oh, was 963 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: it a reality show? I'm like no, but I mean 964 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: you write what you know, and I wanted it to 965 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: feel real, authentic to like what I'm going through because 966 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: I knew that people would then like relate to it 967 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: versus trying to create like some kind of dramatic, you 968 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 3: know story. It was really like a very simple story 969 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: about like a couple going to LA together and then 970 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: like them being confronted with things in the relationship. 971 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: And it was fun to have Feelix act. But she 972 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: did a great job. 973 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: I was like, we're going to acting school because I 974 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: didn't even think for a second like Kenny act Like. 975 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 3: I was like, can you do this with me? And 976 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 3: he was like for sure, just like an amazing partner. 977 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: Support too with everything. That's awesome. That's all you could ask. No, literally, 978 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: you have a saying to do it for the plot? Yes, 979 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: what is the craziest thing you've ever done for the plot. 980 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: Recently went to a restaurant and I heard the Taylor 981 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: Swift was there and I was like, I have to 982 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: give her my card game, and so Felix was at home. 983 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: I put my card game. It's such a story. He 984 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 2: put my card game in an uber package. 985 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 986 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: I left the restaurant. Millions of Pop Rozzy fans already 987 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: waiting outside. So I was like, Okay, she's here. I 988 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: grabbed the card game and I'm sitting there and we 989 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: went to the corner store, eating everything, drink everything. 990 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: Everyone's filing out of the restaurant. 991 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I see like Blake Livez's incredible 992 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: hair or somebody. 993 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: Were there when they left the restaurant. 994 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I wasn't just there. 995 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: I was. 996 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: I was there. I would never go up to someone ever. 997 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: I knew she was going to exit and I was 998 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: sitting at the bar, so I knew she was going 999 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: to pass right by me. 1000 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: So it was Ryan, Blake, Taylor, and Travis and I literally. 1001 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 3: Was like, Hi, I'm such a fan, and I created 1002 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 3: this car gament. I think you'd really love it. And 1003 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: she literally looked at it and she goes, oh my god, 1004 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: thank you so much, but no thank you, but think 1005 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: like it was so sweet. I don't think she could 1006 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 3: take it from me. If she started taking things from fans, 1007 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 3: she'd probably be dead, Like I think it would be 1008 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 3: too much. It could have been like poison. It looks 1009 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: like a cigarette, yeah, like a box, which was on purpose. 1010 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: It was probably. 1011 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: Terrified the level in which she actually like responded and 1012 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: was so sweet. But guys, my friend was like secretly 1013 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: recording it and my face like when she was like 1014 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 3: thank you, but like no. 1015 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: I was mortified. 1016 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: This is the worst of my life. 1017 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. 1018 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: I put her in this position where she had to 1019 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: say no, like I like. But then I got over 1020 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 3: because it's such an iconic story for the plot. 1021 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: Like who cares it? 1022 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 3: She said, She's tell her face And by the way, 1023 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: I kept the game that she rejected. One day, I'm 1024 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: going to meet her and I'm gonna be like, funny 1025 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: story and We're going to be it's all good. I 1026 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: was so scared. Even afterwards, I was obviously felt about like, 1027 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: oh my god rejection, but I was like, wait, this 1028 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: was literally so sick and like we interacted. You miss 1029 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the shots you don't take. I'm 1030 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: so glad that I know, but the fact that you 1031 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: did it, it's like, I. 1032 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: Mean she wait to see this clitch. She will she 1033 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: cut it down. 1034 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: My mom actually met her at Coachella one year and 1035 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: she knew who my mom was, so I was like, Okay, 1036 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: maybe she will see this cloud? 1037 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: Does it live? And feel to live my dream? Gossip 1038 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: girl Taylor Love obsessed. 1039 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: And that is all we have today. But Serena, thank 1040 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on today's episode of Casual Chaos. 1041 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: You were such an amazing guest. 1042 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 1043 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: You're so wonderful, truly you and best of luck with everything. 1044 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: She's so happy for you.