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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours Truly Paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, this

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Speaker 1: is Paul.

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Speaker 2: Anka and my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends

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Speaker 2: for decades and we've decided to let you in on

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Speaker 2: our late night phone calls by starting a new podcast

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Speaker 2: and welcome to Our Way.

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Speaker 1: We'd like you to meet some real good friends of ours.

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Speaker 2: There, leaders in entertainment and.

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Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even a sitting

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Speaker 1: president or two.

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Speaker 2: Join us as we asked the questions they've not been

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Speaker 2: asked before. Tell it like it is, and even sing

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Speaker 2: a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Another kick for me was watching You with with Mike Myers.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that. He's a terrific man. He's

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Speaker 4: a truly fan. He wrote that character. Oh, Vidio, I've

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Speaker 4: been in the picture of business. What fault seventy years?

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Speaker 4: I guess seventy years and I'm known as Number two.

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Speaker 4: That's you know a little. He wrote that character for me,

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Speaker 4: So I am now referred to as Number two.

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Speaker 5: Hello Skip, Hey, glad you're up and around. What you're

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Speaker 5: doing I'm just checking in. You know, we gotta have

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Speaker 5: the daily checking at least once a day or a

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Speaker 5: problem for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's always good to hear your voice, buddy. And

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Speaker 3: how about the voice we'll have on our podcast, mister Wegner.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's amazing. You'll hear a distinctive tonality with RJ.

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Speaker 3: You know, some of those actors have got that. They've

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Speaker 3: all got this certain tone. His has never changed. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna hear a voice and go wow, I've heard that

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Speaker 3: so many times. But you go for the archange. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I used to play with him, and in course, he

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Speaker 5: started off as a caddy at the bell Air Country

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Speaker 5: Club for you know, some of the greatest you know

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Speaker 5: stars in Hollywood at the time, including you know Fred Astaire.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is the whole group of guys.

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Speaker 3: How about when his father brought him out though there

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Speaker 3: was nothing there. Yeah, No, his father moved out from

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Speaker 3: I mean the Terra Firma there was empty and this

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Speaker 1: RJ.

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Speaker 5: You know, but you know, I want to talk to

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Speaker 5: them about this. One of the things is interesting. He

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Speaker 5: made for Hollywood, right, I mean, this is a guy

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Speaker 5: the women would look at this guy and go, oh

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Speaker 3: No, he was one of those guys. But he was

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Speaker 3: an actor. You know, he really morphed into being a

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's in his early nineties and I got

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Speaker 3: I think he'll really enjoy him. He's got some great stories.

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Speaker 3: Fred Astaire was in his life. I mean, the guys

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Speaker 5: And I want to ask my friend Chuck Laurie, who

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Speaker 5: to do that, you know, because he was he played

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Speaker 5: So be interesting to find that out. How did you

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Speaker 3: I didn't know him until the early sixties when we

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Speaker 3: He's just he's a gentleman. He's just a sweet guy,

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Speaker 5: Very civil and elegant guy, you know, doesn't doesn't seek attention,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: You know, but those scripts are hard to come by.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you find these guys like him, you know,

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Speaker 5: And I think whenever I've spent time with him, he's

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Speaker 3: Very very much, very humble.

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Speaker 4: He's all of that.

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Speaker 3: And we'll have good time with him, and he's just

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Speaker 3: a cool head. All right, my boy, go to bed,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll talk to you tomorrow for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that is a pulp pray, I hope,

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Speaker 3: So for sure, man, you know we're talking tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: So all you folks out there, but it's so general

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Speaker 1: and all the wonderful feedback we've been getting today, we

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I met this man. It

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Speaker 1: was way back when we were in a foxhole on

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Speaker 1: And ever since that a Darryl Zantik film called The

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Speaker 1: Longest Day, we've had a strong connection through all those years,

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Speaker 1: and not professing to know him infinitely, but knowing him

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Speaker 1: close with our families and Amanda and his girls, long

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Speaker 1: long time. And that voice you're hearing is the voice

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Speaker 1: of r J, otherwise known as Robert Wagner, one of

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Speaker 1: our amazing film stars for so many years. And welcome

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Speaker 1: to our show, Robert, say hello to Skip Bronson over there.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's so wonderful. I have a very deep affection

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Speaker 4: for you and have had for years. You know, our

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Speaker 4: and Chasing and their weddings and grandfathers, and you and

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Speaker 4: I are grandfathers, you know. Isn't that wonderful?

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm loving it. As overrated as it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: You had you had a real good shot at you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I finally got the boy, right Jie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But you've had such a wonderful career, Paul, and

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Speaker 4: you've had everybody such such joy and you've made so

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Speaker 1: For you, you know, Yes, and you too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: go eclectically here, and I know, Skip being the avid

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Speaker 1: because that was a memorable moment in my career, in life.

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Speaker 1: And where did it all fit in for you?

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Speaker 4: Well? That was your first fixture, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Want to talk about? Yes, I did one with Mami

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think we were all very fortunate

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Speaker 4: And you know, Zenik was responsible ready for my career,

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Speaker 4: Those directors were great, and you were terrific in it.

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Speaker 1: Really listen, I walked away with writing the music. That

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank god you did. You know, You've always been

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Speaker 4: We've you know, in Vegas, we've gone up there to

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Speaker 4: see you and yeah, you're so great and they all

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Speaker 4: doing this show with you, so well, we'll have a

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Speaker 1: Okay, we could use them all. Hey, Jay, do you

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Speaker 1: remember in your memoir there's a couple of pages in

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Speaker 1: there about when you got so on one night that

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm having dinner with him Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 1: I would have seen you. I was on my way

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Speaker 1: That's a good song time there. Do you remember do

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Speaker 2: I do, and we go, you know, taking it all

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Speaker 4: Well, that's true. I waited there for Clark Dabe, you know.

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Speaker 4: Gable got me set up at MGM, and Randolph Scott

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Speaker 4: I did a series called It Takes a Thief and

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Speaker 4: was a great thief, but he was the greatest thief

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Speaker 4: of them all, Bretastaire, and he played my father and

434
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: we worked together, and I want to tell you something,

435
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: It was the biggest thrill of my life to be

436
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 4: able to work with Bredastaire. That was that was really exciting.

437
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: That was something that's funny.

438
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny because we have a mutual friend

439
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: in Chuck Lourie and I was talking and I was

440
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: talking to Chuck this morning, course producer of Two and

441
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: a half, Men in the Big Bang Theory and all

442
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: these shows, and I said.

443
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh, he gave me some good shots on that. He

444
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 4: gave me some good stuff, I know.

445
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: And I said to Paul that I spoke to Chuck

446
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: this morning, and I told him that Paul and I

447
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: were going to be, you know, doing this podcast with

448
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: you today. And I said, so tell me something that

449
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: I can say to him that that he'll get a

450
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: kick out of. And he said, well, you know, when

451
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: he played Teddy Leopold, you know, the love interest of

452
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen's mother. He said, when it was time to

453
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: kill off his character, you said, wait a second, can

454
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: I possibly come back as a ghost.

455
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I love working for Chuck Laurie. Tremendous south, very talented.

456
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: He's a tremendous sound of that man. He's great. Yeah.

457
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: I loved working for him, I really did. I was

458
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: disappointed that I didn't go on there. There was a

459
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: I was involved in another television situation he was aware of,

460
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: and uh, he thought that show was going to go,

461
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: and so did I. But it didn't go and he

462
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: let me go out of the out of the show,

463
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 4: which I was But I love doing the show and

464
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 4: I loved working for him. He was terrific.

465
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: That's great.

466
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about all the great people

467
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: we've been fortunate to be around. R Jay, I must

468
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: tell you the eulogy that you gave it Sinatra's funeral,

469
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: oh so memorable. And he was a buddy of yours

470
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: and mine, And you know I know that. I think.

471
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Weren't you engaged to Tina for a bit, et cetera,

472
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: et cetera.

473
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, we went for a together for a while.

474
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Yea, but we were we were so close to him.

475
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 1: And give me some takes on Frank, because there's nobody

476
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: like him, never will be. And I know you were

477
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: very tight in there as I was in terms of

478
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Speaker 1: having him in my life.

479
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you were very tight. You were very

480
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 4: tight in there too.

481
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know how special was he?

482
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: Oh, he was such a special man. You know. I

483
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: to him when I was very young. I mean I

484
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: was like twenty one twenty two when I first met him.

485
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: I too, maybe two days old.

486
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a little difference between you and me,

487
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: you know. Uh. And he was always so wonderful to me,

488
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: so so generous, took me places with him and.

489
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: Well, well with him. When he said we're going out,

490
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: you have to bring your passport. You never knew where

491
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: you you.

492
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 4: Know, I introduced him one time, he said, he said,

493
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 4: I want you to He came to Rome and I

494
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: was and I was living in Rome and he played

495
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: there you and you can imagine Sonata and Rome Hello,

496
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: And uh he said, why don't you introduce me? I said,

497
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: oh Jesus, but uh so I walk out on the

498
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: stage and you can imagine how people love to see

499
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: me on the way to for Sinatra. Right, so, and

500
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: I said two words, Frank Sinatra, and out he came,

501
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: and he turned that place upside down.

502
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they loved him over.

503
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: You've seen that many times.

504
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been around it all. But he was something special.

505
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean he was just mesmer.

506
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've done that too. I've seen you turn

507
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: it upside down too. I've seen you. I've seen you

508
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: come out and give performances that are absolutely magnificent. The

509
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: audience goes crazy.

510
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: They had nothing better to do that night. They were

511
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: probably waiting for him. So, you know, another kick for

512
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: me was watching you with with Mike Myers.

513
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love that.

514
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Are you still in touch with him?

515
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I'm in touch with him once in a while. Yeah.

516
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: He's a terrific man. He's a truly man. He wrote

517
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: that character. Oh me, you know, I've been in the

518
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: picture of business what Paul seventy years? I guess. And

519
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: I'm known as Number two. That's you know a little

520
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: He wrote that character for me, so I am now

521
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: referred to as number two.

522
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: It's cool between Myers and Sellers, who you're with, right,

523
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: How similar are those two guys?

524
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: Oh? I don't think they were similar at all. Peter

525
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: Peter Sellers was a very very special guy and so

526
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: is Mike, and their personalities are are very very different,

527
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: very different but did you you know Peter did you?

528
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were with the same agent and then

529
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: knew him, you know, in England, met him over here.

530
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: I didn't know him well, but you know we've gotten

531
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: together with Dinners et cetera like that. Yeah, very time.

532
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think anybody could get to

533
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: know Peter Bury.

534
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no.

535
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: I think it was possible. I spent a great deal

536
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: of time with him and I had had wonderful fans

537
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: with him in London. He had a super souped up

538
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: many Cooper and but that Carr could really move and

539
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 4: he loved you know, drag racing with people and knocking

540
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: him out of the way, and it was quite interesting.

541
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: You know.

542
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: He's a tortured soul though.

543
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 6: Yes he was. Unfortunately he had a lot of a

544
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 6: lot of Davis. Yeah, but funny Mike, Mike Myers is

545
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 6: do you know have you met him?

546
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I met only I think Bacrack was

547
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: involved in the film. Bert was a friend, you know,

548
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: I'd met Mike, you know, did.

549
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: You see that? You know I did that special on

550
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: Bert back and it was on the other day. It

551
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: was pretty pretty good. I thought it really They really used.

552
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Is a biography?

553
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: R J?

554
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: Was it a biography?

555
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: Big Heart?

556
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Was it a biography or music? I haven't seen it yet.

557
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 4: It's a music I did. I did it about five

558
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: years and it came out really well. I admired Burt

559
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: very much. I saw him first when he was playing

560
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: at the Plaza Hotel in New York City. That's a

561
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: long time ago, and I just thought he had so

562
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: much talent and it was a terrific person. I, by

563
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: the way, was on the phone the other day with

564
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: Angie and he's doing well.

565
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, I knew him back then with her and

566
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I met him in the fifties. We were sharing a girlfriend.

567
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Her name was Shirley Ornstein, and I didn't know him,

568
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: he didn't know me, but she knew both of us.

569
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: So she'd come and visit me and we'd have fun.

570
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: That she'd go see him and have fun that you

571
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: can go back and I heard this new song with

572
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: this guy Bert Bacharak. She started singing it to me,

573
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: and then that player mid new one, and she'd go

574
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: back and tell him. I never met him. So finally

575
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: one day we got together. I said, Hey, we're sharing Shirley.

576
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: He said yeah, and it was like late fifties and

577
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: we became buddies. Ever said, right right down to about

578
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: a month or two before he passed. Very talented guy, very.

579
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: Talented, wonderful man. Yet he had wonderful parents, you know

580
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: his father. Did you ever meet them?

581
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Yes? And then the once in New York.

582
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: Yes, very nice people, wonderful people, wonderful family.

583
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a stylish guy. He was very very cool.

584
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, terrific.

585
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of cool guys, Spencer Tracy, big part of your life.

586
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: I lived at What an actor he was? What's the

587
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: advice he gave your ja? Where did you learn from him?

588
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: Oh? There's spent so many, so many they spent so

589
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: many things said about Spence. But you know, people ask

590
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: him how does he how do you do it? And

591
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: you know, how do how do you? How do you

592
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: be so natural? How do you get that character? He

593
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: said a lot of things. But one of the things

594
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: that he said, well try I just heard again the

595
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: other day was he said, you know, actress, say what

596
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: what what? What? What? What shall I do? He say?

597
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: He said, learn your lines, hit the mark and be honest.

598
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: And that's pretty simple. But that's what he did. I

599
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean he was just did you ever work.

600
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: With him, Paul, No, never had that pleasure.

601
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: He was something. I did two films with him, and

602
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: it was the first time I went to Europe. I

603
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: went to Europe with him and Eddie Dimitrick, the director,

604
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: and we did a film up in Shamani called a Mountain,

605
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: and we drove up there. Eddie had bought a car,

606
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: a Mercedes convertible. I mean this is fifty years ago,

607
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: you know. But just had a wonderful experience being with him.

608
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: He was such a special man and I knew his children.

609
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: You know that John Tracy Klinet, which was formed because

610
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: John was deaf by his mother and his sister excuse me,

611
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: was you know, such a dear friend. She just left

612
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: us recently, both of them are gone. But the wonderful

613
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: organization and the John Tracy Clinic has done. She was

614
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: responsible for stopping the expression deaf and dumb. She missus,

615
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: Tracy Louise. She was just a remarkable woman, you know,

616
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: one of those women be in your life that never

617
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: leave you. And she was a very very wonderful person.

618
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: And they formed the John Tracy Clinic and they've done

619
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: so much for young children who are impaired with herring

620
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: and and they've been really, really done a great job.

621
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: Spence was very much involved in that.

622
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of names from the past, I just went to

623
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: my friend Casey Wasserman's fiftieth birthday party and his grandfather

624
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: of course with Lou Wasserman, and he was just curious

625
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: of any of your memories of Lou Wasserman, the impact

626
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: he had on the entertainment industry, on Hollywood, all of it.

627
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: Well, he was very responsible for my going into television,

628
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: you know, he was the one that wanted me to do.

629
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: It takes a thief, and it takes a thief, you know.

630
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: It changed my whole career. And I was very close

631
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: to lew and he was my agent at one time

632
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: and then as you know, he ran at owned Universal Studio. Say,

633
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: he was a remarkable man. He did so much for

634
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: me and I'm so indebted to him, and I loved

635
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 4: his wife. We were very close, you know, he was

636
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: He couldn't have been more generous to me. He was great.

637
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: You know him quite well.

638
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: Paul may have known him. I didn't know him, but

639
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: Paul man him.

640
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew Wasserman well. Him and Stein. You know,

641
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: they set a whole new tone back then. You go

642
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: over those offices, unlike some of the other agencies are

643
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: j and there were antiques everywhere, and they started that

644
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: whole gray suit, black tie, very very stylish, and he was.

645
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: He was one of those great guys with that low tone,

646
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: never never raised his voice.

647
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, very very very powerful guy.

648
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: I hate the equation between Mayer Lansky that I used

649
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: to sit with at the Fountain, Blue and lou But

650
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: there's a certain elk of men that they never changed

651
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: their tonality. It was always one tone and very strong

652
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: and very powerful.

653
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: But he was.

654
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: He and Stein did an amazing, amazing contribution to our business. Oh,

655
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I think they set the mold.

656
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were talking about his you they'd go to

657
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 4: Europe and they'd buy all those antiques.

658
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

659
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: I have one of a fireplace that he bought and

660
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: I got it. It was given to me. I have

661
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: it in my house up there. Yeah, yeah, you'll see it.

662
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, they were stylish guys. They were very very

663
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: cool guys. Great agency.

664
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: When are you coming up here, by the way.

665
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: Well, I hope to come up within the next couple

666
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: of months to see our friend and just hang for

667
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: a few days, but I have to come in before

668
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: the concert on the twenty eighth. I'll probably get up

669
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: there into the Little Neils around when twenty eighth of September.

670
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: At Steve's house, we're just planning the tent and bring

671
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: an equipment in. You know, Stevie's right on nothing but

672
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: the best, so we're gonna have a hell of an evening.

673
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: But I'll come up before that because he just wants

674
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: me to come up and hang for a few days.

675
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: And I enjoyed Aspen because my daughter lived up there.

676
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: She was a ski instructor. So between there and Aspen,

677
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very familiar with the turf and I

678
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: really like it up there.

679
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: Oh that's great.

680
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: What brought you to Aspen in the first place? Why Aspen?

681
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: Well, I first came here to Aspen in nineteen forty

682
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: nine with two ski instructors of Antache and eve La Tree,

683
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: And they were both French guys, and they were instructors

684
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: in France and the top skiers and Colorado and Aspen

685
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: was the first place that they had the ski lift

686
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: and the snow was fabulous, and I came with the

687
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: two of them in nineteen forty nine, and then Jill

688
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: came in nineteen fifty nine. I didn't know her then,

689
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: but she lived here. I mean, Jill has lived here

690
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: for most of her life. And when Jill and you know,

691
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: and then I'd come back to Asphen on occasions and

692
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: vacations and all of that. But then when Jill and

693
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: I started going together, I was up here more often, obviously,

694
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: and I just loved it. As Paul knows because it's

695
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: happened to him. The children all grew up and left,

696
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 4: and we had this house in Brentwood, beautiful home, and

697
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: it was just Chill and myself and this wonderful woman

698
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: who worked for me called Willie May were then. And

699
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: that's when I see a lot of Paul's kids, you know,

700
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: they were all together, all of them, and they all

701
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: left and there was just Jill, myself and Willie May

702
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: and his home. And so we sold it and moved

703
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: into a condominium in Beverly Hills and lived there for

704
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 4: a while, and then Jill had her house here. Then

705
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: we saw this house that I'm living in now, and

706
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: we bought it. I think it's twenty five or thirty

707
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: years and we now live. We got married and we

708
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: lived here and it's all his firs and ours, my

709
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: mothers and fathers and her mother and fathers and tourises

710
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: and it's all together.

711
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: That's great. And I just spoke yesterday actually to our

712
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: other mutual friend George Hamilton, who told me either just

713
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: he said he was just talking to you. See I

714
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: talked to him.

715
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, is he down in Florida's he he's teas unbelievable.

716
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: He's flying to Europe to see a friend of his

717
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: perform and then he's going to go to the Hampton's.

718
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: He's going to stay in Southampton out on Long Island

719
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: for the big part of thee.

720
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: He travels a lot. He's a wonderful guy. You know.

721
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: Natalie and I did a picture together with him. That's

722
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: when I first met him, called all the Final Cannibals,

723
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: and we just loved him. And he's been a very

724
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: good close friend and uh, I love him. You know,

725
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: he's he's a wonderful.

726
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: He got all excited when I told him we were

727
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: going to be talking to you. I have to say,

728
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: two of the funniest people I know are Paul and George.

729
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Paul's hysterical, but George is hilarious. He's just you know,

730
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't take himself all that seriously. He's sort of

731
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: he's sort of in on the joke. But you know,

732
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: he was very close to my mentor, Melvin Simon, who

733
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: started me in business. And mel mel was backing George

734
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: and George's movies like Zarro the Gay Blade, mel Simon

735
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: produced it. And so George has always had somebody he

736
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: attaches himself to, Like now it's Donnie Sofer. Back then

737
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: it was Yeah, and before that it was with mel Simon.

738
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: And you know, George is such a character. He just

739
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: but he's so entertaining that everybody loves taking him around.

740
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: So Donnie bought a new plane, bought a Global Express

741
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: and he said to me, you know, Skip, I had

742
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: to take four of the seats out of the back

743
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: of the plane. I said why, He said, so I

744
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: can get all of George's luggage on board. Yeah, he

745
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: travels like a Oh, he travels like Elizabeth Taylor.

746
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: When he moves in, he moves in.

747
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 4: And he traveled with Yeah.

748
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: Well, I know, I know he's so charming. You know

749
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: the word charming. I mean, you can't find a word

750
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: charming guy than George.

751
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: Oh, he's terrific, terrific.

752
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: He still goes to Germany, Skip for those shots. He

753
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: came to your house.

754
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: When you played that practical joke. You have to tell

755
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: j what you did to him that you.

756
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Know he goes with sofa and they get the juice

757
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: of a lamb or the urine of a pig. I

758
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but some Germans sold, look

759
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: like you get this shot once a month and you're

760
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna last forever. So it happened, you show, Yeah, but he's.

761
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 4: He's so he was.

762
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I think he called you on the phone. He was

763
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: in town, Skip and he called you, and I was

764
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: with you. You were screening something for me exactly when

765
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: he said, hey, George, how are you? And then you

766
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: whispered to me George Hamilton. I said, tell him, tell

767
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: him you've got doctor Swing Dangle from Germany. He's here,

768
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: the guy that gave you the shots. Just tell him, George,

769
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I've got doctor Swinger. Then if we hear from the institute,

770
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: is he there, Yes, she's George. How are you? George?

771
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: This is doctor Listen. We've got a new serum.

772
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Now.

773
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: You won't believe if you and the sofa person you

774
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: come over We've got a new serum where it takes

775
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: six months for you see difference. It's gonna last twelve days.

776
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna see the difference, the eyes, the wrinkles. It's

777
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: this new juice that we got from the colt over

778
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: in Switzerland. He says, we don't don't worry. I'm going

779
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: to be waiting for you. You're done, and I'm putting him

780
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: on like for about what twenty minutes? Skip skip At

781
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: one point's going tell him that you can't handle this, right,

782
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: But they go over religiously r J to get these shows.

783
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: Do you remember what he's Yeah, R Paul, do you

784
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: remember what he said to you? He was thought he

785
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: was talking to the doctor and the doctor said, yes,

786
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: it's very expensive, but you know it's certainly expensive. And

787
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: he said, well done, so for having an account with you.

788
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: He said, oh yes, oh so we can put on his.

789
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: Account right, the expensive but Silfa has that count.

790
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was so crazy.

791
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: I got on some of the stuff that he got

792
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: me on a really good, good program and I got

793
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: on to it about thirty years ago. Oh tell us

794
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 4: a wonderful doctor called doctor Anna Aslam. Did you her?

795
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: No? Here here in Los Angeles.

796
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 4: No, she's in she's in Romania.

797
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh, so he's covering you.

798
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: The George shipped me off on that. And I started

799
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: taking those shots. And I gotta say, I went to.

800
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: You, went over there, RJ. What's that You went over

801
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: there to her? She sent them to you?

802
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: No, you can. You can buy them. He told me

803
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: about them, and I got them and started taking started

804
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: taking them. When I went to this spa in Germany.

805
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: You know, when you go there, the doctor's examine you

806
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: and everything else. And he said to you, what drugs

807
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: do you take and stuff whether as I told him,

808
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: you know, supplements and things like that. And he said,

809
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: and I told him, I took this anne Aslan medicine

810
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: of shots that are like novacane. You know, they hold

811
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: your your vessels and your organs, and that's the theory

812
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: of it. And he said, you know, I have several

813
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: patients that come in here and we can tell the difference.

814
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: So I've been taking those shots. George got me on them.

815
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: When I take them, you're still take you Oh yeah,

816
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: she's still alive.

817
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: She's not alive anymore. But the the company that she

818
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: created and the laboratories that she has are still functioning

819
00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: under her name.

820
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: There you go, these doctors that have their own thing

821
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: going for them, right.

822
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

823
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Look at you? You look? You have to say you look,

824
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: you look incredible.

825
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Maybe perfect face for radio?

826
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: What you know, it's the makeup. What can I tell you?

827
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, look, the whoever's doing is doing a good job.

828
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: What's your day, like, buddy up there? I mean out

829
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: of winter? In winter? Give me your date? What do

830
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: you do?

831
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: You know here everybody exercises a lot, you know, they

832
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: ride bikes and do all that. And I go to

833
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: the gym three times a week. And living you know,

834
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: in nature is really wonderful. And I read a lot,

835
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: and I'm just enjoying life, you know.

836
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: All and gracefully, right, gracefully.

837
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: I'm so fortunate and us so grateful. You can't imagine that.

838
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: I that I've wound up like this in this beautiful place.

839
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: And my family is all well and they're doing all right,

840
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 4: and I'm healthy, and I'm dealing with a little COPD now.

841
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: But I'm dealing with it, you know, and it's something

842
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: you can you can deal with.

843
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: Well, it's not easy to die nowadays, are Jay. If

844
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: you've got good people around you. It's not easy to

845
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: die nowadays, and we can't afford good people around us.

846
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: And I hear you. You know, I think we can

847
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: deal with stuff like that, right.

848
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

849
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Do you get back to la at all? Do you

850
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: ever get back to La.

851
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: Oh once in a while? Yeah, we come back down

852
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 4: there because you know, Jill was born in Los Angeles

853
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: and I was raised there, and we have a lot

854
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: of friends. And two of my girls are there in

855
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, Natasha and Kay. Well, Katie lives in Ohi.

856
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: We have a lot of friends there. So we go

857
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: down there two or three times a year and and

858
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 4: see our friends. You know, we have a lot of friends.

859
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: What about the old haunts like Chasing's, the places, the

860
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: old hang you miss those places gone?

861
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: Yes, that's gone. But I just had a wonderful birthday party.

862
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: Jill gave me my ninety fourth birthday party at George

863
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 4: Hill's at the Beach. And you know, I knew Georgia

864
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: very well. And his son, Edwardo. He has a restaurant

865
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: in Beverly Hills called Edwardo's, and the daughter a lot

866
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: of she runs the Georgia's at the Beach, And we

867
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: had a wonderful She gave me a wonderful party, just right.

868
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Ellen and that's one of our favorite

869
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: restaurants where they're.

870
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's quite a bit a lot of us.

871
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and never the restaurant never disappoints. It's always great.

872
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh that's great. H Well, there's a lot of wonderful places,

873
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: and we have a lot of good friends there to you.

874
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: So, but everybody haspens the happening place now it's incredible,

875
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: I mean the place.

876
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's changed a great deal, like like everything else.

877
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: I remember when the hardware store had sawdust on the

878
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: floor and a bell to ring when he opened up

879
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 4: the door by the screen with a screen door, you know.

880
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 4: So it's changed. But every place that we've all met

881
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: has changed, you know.

882
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: Of course.

883
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Of course, speaking of which, R Jay, you know that

884
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: the tabloid celebrity culture has changed in the last seven years,

885
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: and we all go back. I mean, you and I

886
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: had to Luella Parsons and had a hopper. Who are

887
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: you dealings with them? Well?

888
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: I knew Luella pretty well and she was always I

889
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: got along with her really well and used to go

890
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: to the racetrack with her a great deal and she

891
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: was very kind to me, and you know, the press

892
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: was really really good to me. And as I you know,

893
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: I was under contract to Fox and they have very

894
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: good relationships with everybody, and I never had any problem

895
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 4: with them.

896
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, such a different system today.

897
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: Oh so today, I mean it's just brutal. I mean,

898
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: they can find anything, they can pay anything about you.

899
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: It's terrible show pictures and oh my god, I mean

900
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: it's and none of it is true really, you know.

901
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean you look at it and you just you

902
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: can't believe.

903
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: It, and you look at the system itself. I mean,

904
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: today I don't know that the movie business is a business.

905
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like American airlines. It's so changed. But the

906
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of these actors, it's the goal

907
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: is just get an oscar and we're going to sell

908
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: whatever film we're doing. It's so changed. And you don't

909
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: have any true movie actors stars like you did yesterday.

910
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: It's a whole different landscape.

911
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: I think that's very well. Football, that's very well. Absolutely,

912
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: I agree totally on that.

913
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: Are you working on any projects right now, any current

914
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: or No, I'm not.

915
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm kind of waiting for you know, once in a

916
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: while the script hits the door, you know, and I

917
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: hear the thump, and I hope it's Steven Spielberg or

918
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: Martin Spressese. But so far that hasn't been.

919
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, I'm sure you could

920
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: work plenty with your background, your history. I just saw

921
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: some pictures the other day of you when you were

922
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: a really young man. Best looking guy in Hollywood, no

923
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: question about it. You had good jeans. What do you

924
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Your parents were from where? What was their background?

925
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 4: Well, my mother was Norwegian. She was born in America,

926
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: first born in Lacrosse, Wisconsin, and my father was a German.

927
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 4: My grandfather settled in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and he was the

928
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: American dream, you know. He sold newspapers on the streets

929
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: and became a salesman, became involved with the Ford Motor

930
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 4: Company and became very successful. You know, it's the American story.

931
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: That was your grandfather. What about your dad?

932
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 4: Oh? No, that was my father.

933
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh there was your father. Oh I see.

934
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: Now. My grandfather, as far as I knew, had a

935
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: like a pub, you know, a bar in Calamazoo. And

936
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: he came from Mannheim. And I only saw him once

937
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 4: when I was already young, just a kid, you know.

938
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 4: But I was raised in Michigan, and then we moved

939
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: to California, and luckily my father built a house bell

940
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: Air when there was nothing there. There was just mountains,

941
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: you know, and the clubhouse, the club that we were

942
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: talking about, was around the corner, you know. So he

943
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 4: belonged to there and played golf, and I wound up

944
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: on the golf course and lucky.

945
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: And now bell Air is arguably the most expensive subdivision

946
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: in America. The prices, I mean is absolutely bell Air.

947
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: That whole area around you know what they call Lower

948
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: bell Air. I mean, the prices are just you know,

949
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: through the roof. It's incredible, right, very expensive. So one

950
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: of the things I just wanted to throw out. Our

951
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: producer Jordan indirectly has a relationship through Lou Wasserman. Jordan,

952
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: why don't you tell R Jay how that worked?

953
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, My my aunt worked for Lou Wasserman when

954
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 7: she worked at Universal. He was he was her boss,

955
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 7: and he was like a second father to her. He

956
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 7: was very very kind to her and was really her mentor.

957
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways too.

958
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 7: So she had just the most wonderful things to tell

959
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 7: me about about lou and he was always always referred

960
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 7: to in very reverent tones in my household.

961
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: Very cool guy. Oh they were good people, you know,

962
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 4: they were very good, good people.

963
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 7: I mean, what was it like, because I feel like

964
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 7: you've written three incredible books, and I think it was

965
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 7: either in your memoir Pieces in My Heart or you

966
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 7: must remember this. I forget which one where you talk

967
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 7: about how you kind of came in at the end

968
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 7: of the studio system in nineteen forty eight when you

969
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 7: signed to Fox. What was it like before the studio

970
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 7: system kind of started to crumble, And what was it

971
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 7: like afterwards when you came back from Europe. What was

972
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 7: the difference like in Hollywood once the studio system began

973
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 7: to kind of be dismantled.

974
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: Well, that's a big question, he just asked me. You know,

975
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I think, to make it as simple as possible,

976
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 4: it was a family business. It was family you know people.

977
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: People really cared about you. They wanted to make you better,

978
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: They wanted to do things that were fortunate for your career.

979
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: You know. It it became corporate, you know, and uh,

980
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: corporate corporate change changed things a lot. It changes a

981
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: lot of values. When I was signed at Fox, I

982
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: was the test boy. I tested all of the all

983
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: of the people came in and I learned, and I

984
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: learned about the business, about lighting, about the camera. I

985
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 4: was diferent front of the camera. I didn't know anything

986
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: about that. I had a chance to do that. I

987
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 4: had a chance to have All that happened to me.

988
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: And the people that I was involved with with they

989
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: were really interested in me. They cared about me, you know.

990
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 4: They I had a man there that was a sign

991
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 4: to just take care of me and watch out for me.

992
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

993
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: And when I went on the road and went out

994
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 4: to sell pictures and I was involved with twentieth Century Fox,

995
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: it was a company that I really cared about. You know.

996
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: Jill and I were talking about that because she was

997
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: under contract to Fox and we had we had an

998
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: involvement with him. We cared about those people you talk

999
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: about the longest day in Darryl. I mean, Darryl Zanik

1000
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: was wonderful to me.

1001
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1002
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: He put me in little small pictures and pieces that

1003
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: had fan mail that I the fans reacted to me

1004
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 4: through fan mail. They had a fan mail department. We

1005
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: took care of the They took care of everything. You know,

1006
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 4: it was wonderful. It was family.

1007
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Not today.

1008
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: Well, I was there when it, you know, when it

1009
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: when it all broke up and people became independent. And

1010
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: don't no, it's not that today because people come into

1011
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 4: the business and they want to uh you know, they

1012
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: have money to buy a story, they want to make

1013
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: a movie. It's all it's all corporative, you know, it's

1014
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: it and it's transit. They're not there for a long time,

1015
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: you know, like for me and like with Paul, you know,

1016
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: we came from the floor, We came from the of

1017
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: the stage from them, you know, rehearsals, people involved in

1018
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: making something better or creating something. It's it's not so

1019
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: much like that anymore. You know, it's very budget concert

1020
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 4: you know, concerns and money and you know, I had

1021
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: a project I took to to some people that have

1022
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: made and I went into the first conversation and I

1023
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: was trying to raise I think the picture was going

1024
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 4: to cost like a between eight and ten million, And

1025
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: they asked me how much I thought it would cost,

1026
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: and I said, I think it could cost It costs

1027
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: probably about ten million. I said, can you make it

1028
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: for six? You know, that that became a discussion.

1029
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: And they were like twenty five years old.

1030
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I wasn't interested in you know, I

1031
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: wasn't interested in carrying the conversation on much longer because

1032
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: it was just two different perspectives, you know.

1033
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: Jay one of the one of the sizzles for me

1034
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: back then, you know, every time I was up at

1035
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: the Sands Hotel with Sinatra and then anytime we knew

1036
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe was coming in, I mean, everybody was hyped.

1037
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm a kid, so to me, it

1038
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: was Bridget Bardeaux who had met and Marilyn Monroe just

1039
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: sing her on the periphery. You did a screen test

1040
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: with Maryland, didn't you.

1041
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 4: Yes, I did both.

1042
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: Tell me tell me about that. Because she's she's just

1043
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: iconic and she was.

1044
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 4: Loved well, you know, Paul I thought she was absolutely terrific.

1045
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 4: She had a wonderful sense of humor. She didn't have

1046
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: every Everybody wasn't on top of her then, you know,

1047
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: and wanting her for something, you know, and she was

1048
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: just great. I've got some pictures with her where we're laughing,

1049
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: laughing like crazy, and she she loved to have fun,

1050
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, she was a really wonderful lady. But you know,

1051
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: you know what it's like. I mean, she couldn't go anywhere.

1052
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: She couldn't, you know. But I I loved her. I

1053
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 4: thought she was great.

1054
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: What was the screen test for?

1055
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: Do you remember on that one? No, that was for

1056
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: her contract at Fox.

1057
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh so it was with you and her, for her

1058
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: to get a contract with Fox.

1059
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was for her to be in

1060
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: a contract of the studio.

1061
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: And do you remember what the scene was from? Oh?

1062
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: No, I don't, No, I don't. But you know, I

1063
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: always liked her. She was such a wonderful you know,

1064
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: she was fun. She was a fun girl, and she

1065
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 4: was a lot a lot of laughs.

1066
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: And well, Frank and the guys loved her. I mean

1067
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: you every time you were around it, you could just

1068
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: see they adored her.

1069
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she, you know, had a lot of

1070
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: demons running around.

1071
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did.

1072
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: That later came out obviously, But what a loss, you

1073
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 4: know what, what an unfortunate thing. I just read her house.

1074
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: There's not going to become a monument.

1075
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: That's right. They won't tear it down. Historic mine in Brentwood.

1076
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: They can't touch it, that's right. Historic like the Beverly

1077
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: Hills Hotel.

1078
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, that's what happened to my house in Brentwood.

1079
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: You know where a panda was there a lot. You

1080
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: know that your daughters were there a lot. It's become

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Speaker 4: a you know, not a monument. But because the architect,

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Speaker 4: Cliff May was so responsible for the California Ranch House

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Speaker 4: and you know, he created it. He created this, the flighting,

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Speaker 4: that glass stoor, you know, and he was a wonderful

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Speaker 4: man and that house was was his house at one time.

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Speaker 4: So they're they're going to keep that for perpetuity, which

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Speaker 4: is great. I lived in it for twenty five years

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Speaker 4: and I loved it and he helped me, help me

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Speaker 4: bring it back to what it was.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, you've you've seen it all, you've done it all,

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Speaker 2: and you're still doing it. You're still doing it.

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Speaker 4: That makes what I'm doing this podcast.

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Speaker 1: So I'm loving that, and we loved it.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much Paul loves you. You know,

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Speaker 2: the way he talks about not just you know, related

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Speaker 2: to this podcast, but whenever your name comes up, man,

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Speaker 2: Paul just he likes right up. He just loves you.

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Speaker 4: Well, so wonderful man. And there isn't anything in the

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Speaker 4: world I wouldn't do for him.

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Speaker 8: Likewise, he's a special, very special human being, and he's

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Speaker 8: been so generous and so kind to me over the

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Speaker 8: years and to our family, and we have great love

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Speaker 8: and affection for him.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, r J.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you. We really appreciate your taking the

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Speaker 2: time to do this. You were on our you were

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Speaker 2: one of our bucket list people. So I'm just so

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Speaker 2: happy that this worked out well.

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Speaker 4: I'm so pleased to be here in the beat with

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Speaker 4: the boot both of you and and Paul. You're the best.

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Speaker 4: I love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jay.

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Speaker 4: It's for a long time and it beings a great

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Speaker 4: deal to me to have you in my life.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that sentiment and I feel the same

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Speaker 1: way about you. And I'll see you very soon, my boy,

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Speaker 1: within the next few months.

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Speaker 4: I look forward to Okay, I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 1: Sarah to Jill for me.

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Speaker 4: Huh, I sure will okay?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Our Way with Paul, Anka and Skip Bronson is a

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: The show's executive producer is Jordan Runt, with supervising producer

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Speaker 2: and editor Marcy Depina.

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Speaker 1: It was engineered by Todd Carlin and Graham Gibson. Mixed

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Speaker 1: and mastered by the wonderful Mary Do.

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