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Speaker 1: certain things in life that you're gonna just have to

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Speaker 1: He's now been meeting with the senators, I guess twice now,

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Speaker 1: And what I took out of McConnell, and he was

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Speaker 1: try and bribe the four senators that told us they

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Speaker 1: out better having a full repeal and and this was

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Speaker 1: You know, Lisa Mkowski, this is when was this said?

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Speaker 1: This was May of sen Murkowski's committed to repealing Obamacare

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Speaker 1: Later this week, the Senate will consider a bill to

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Speaker 1: And that's how insurance works. And so the most fresh

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Speaker 1: immediately for millions millions of Americans, that is an effective

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Speaker 1: reduction in your pre me ums, depending on whatever you're

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Speaker 1: marginal tax rate is, you can pay your premiums with

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Speaker 1: pre tax dollars. That's immediate bank for the buck, right

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Speaker 1: and the get going that is in the bill right now.

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Speaker 1: It's the provision I drafted. Those two together really have

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Speaker 1: an impact helping people be able to afford the health

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Speaker 1: insurance that you know your family want need. Senator I

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Speaker 1: read years ago patient Power, Musgrave and Goodman out of

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Speaker 1: the Cato Institute. I've been preaching this for years. It's refreshing.

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Speaker 1: Um let me ask you, this is the repeal only

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Speaker 1: dead because of these four senators Um, Capital and Murkowski,

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Speaker 1: Importman and Collins. That is it dead? Are you now

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Speaker 1: back to negotiating the other deal? And do you think

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Speaker 1: I was surprised, Mike Lee, I know he's a friend

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Speaker 1: of yours. I was surprised he bailed out because of

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Speaker 1: your provision. Yeah, you know, look, I continue to believe

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Speaker 1: we can get this done. We all left having lunch

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Speaker 1: with the President at the White House, and and I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about that too. How did that go?

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Speaker 1: It was a very good lunch. The President hosted that

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Speaker 1: the Vice president was there, the Secretary of HHS Tom

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Speaker 1: Price was there, and you had all or virtually all

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Speaker 1: of the Republican senators were there. Uh. And it was

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Speaker 1: a good two two and a half hour discussion that

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Speaker 1: was that was media. It was substantive, and I think

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Speaker 1: we're making real progress that that that we're moving towards

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Speaker 1: coming to agreement. It's not easy to bring together fifty

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Speaker 1: out of fifty two Republicans. There there's some wide, wide

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Speaker 1: differences in the conference. But I believe we can get

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Speaker 1: it done. And I think it was helpful for the

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Speaker 1: President to host that and really to urge everyone to

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Speaker 1: come together and get it done. And I think the

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Speaker 1: key to unity, to unifying the Republican Conference, to bring

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Speaker 1: in together conservatives and moderates and everyone on the same page,

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Speaker 1: is focusing like a laser on reducing premiums, because that

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Speaker 1: that's a win for everybody. And so that's that's what

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to do, is really focus everyone's attention

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Speaker 1: and on lowering premiums. And I think we're making real

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Speaker 1: progress in that, right. I watched your interview on Fox

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Speaker 1: immediately after the White House meeting today, and you said

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Speaker 1: what I've been saying, and that failure is not an option.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, look, I could tell you right

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Speaker 1: now the anger in my audience beyond palpable, and and

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Speaker 1: the and the argument is and by and you were right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we learned a lot in and I remember

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Speaker 1: I supported you. You went to the Senate floor and

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Speaker 1: you rightly said we have constitutional authority and power. It's

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Speaker 1: the power of the purse. And instead of the sixty

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Speaker 1: eight votes that they had since eleven to repeal, defund,

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Speaker 1: and do this, and do that, it was all show votes.

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Speaker 1: And we learned that when the House was debating, or

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Speaker 1: like a hundred of Republicans that never had any intention

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Speaker 1: of keeping that promise, because when it meant something, they

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Speaker 1: did nothing. And then you were excoriated for saying, we

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Speaker 1: can get it done now, and you became the bad guy.

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Speaker 1: And then they started predicting, oh, look with Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 1: if we lose, in is his fault. But yet in reality,

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Speaker 1: you were the only principal person saying, well, I'm here

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Speaker 1: to keep my promise. Well, and not only did we

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Speaker 1: not lose, we won big and we were fired. Nine

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Speaker 1: Democratic senators retired, Harry read his majority leader and took

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Speaker 1: and center in those elections was the promise to repeal Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to honor that promise, and if

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Speaker 1: we fail to do it, having the White House in

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Speaker 1: both Houses of Congress, I think every one of us

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Speaker 1: will look like fools. And I don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 1: I am working night and day to try to bring

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Speaker 1: let's honor our promise. You know, and you may not

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Speaker 1: even know this, but when the House hit the same

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Speaker 1: road bump or that you're hitting. I spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time on the phone with the Freedom Caucus guys.

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Speaker 1: And there were nights I was talking to them at

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Speaker 1: you on the other line at one and two in

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Speaker 1: the morning. And you don't even a member of the House.

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Speaker 1: But what you were trying to do is get a

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Speaker 1: bill that would also work in the Senate so that

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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't get to conference and have a blow

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Speaker 1: up there, right, And the Freedom Caucus did a terrific

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Speaker 1: job of the House. They the leaders Mark Meadows, Jim

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Speaker 1: Jordan's are are good principal guys that they're good friends

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Speaker 1: and and and they improve the bill in the House. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I think the bill has improved significantly in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: adding the Consumer Freedom Amendment and hs as for premiums.

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Speaker 1: Both of those are major provisions that lower lower premiums

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Speaker 1: and and that's a big win. Does that bring Mike

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Speaker 1: Lee back on board? Does this bring Rand Paul on board?

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Speaker 1: Does this bring Susan Collins, Importman and and Markowski and

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Speaker 1: Capital on board? You know, from from everything I've seen

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Speaker 1: Ran Paul and Susan Collins, I think you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: nos almost regardless of what we do. Well, that's it.

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Speaker 1: We don't have any more margin, so we we If

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Speaker 1: we lose those two votes, we can't lose anybody else. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I am hopeful. I know Mike Lee wants

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Speaker 1: to support the bill. He and I have worked very closely.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him and start yelling at him and

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Speaker 1: beat him up. Oh look, Mike guy. I like Mike Lee.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I mean, you want me to start

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Speaker 1: yelling at him? No, no, no, no. Look. Look, Mike's

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Speaker 1: disagreement is with one aspect of the Consumer Freedom Amendment,

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Speaker 1: which is which is a concession that I had to

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Speaker 1: make to get it into the bill, which is to

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Speaker 1: require that that plans on the exchanges and Freedom Plans

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Speaker 1: all be in the same risk pool. And he points

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Speaker 1: out that that that ends up not reducing premiums for

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Speaker 1: the Freedom plans as much as as we could. Um,

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Speaker 1: and that's right. I agree with him. I'd rather it

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Speaker 1: with two risk pools. That's how I drafted it initially.

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Speaker 1: But with the single risk pool we end up saving

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Speaker 1: people with freedom Plans seven thousand, two D and sixty.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing that's passing and going to too risk

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Speaker 1: pools saves an additional six six, so it takes it

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Speaker 1: from hundred. That's good. Um, you know, I think Mike

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Speaker 1: is working productively and trying to get to yes, and

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Speaker 1: I think he has getting him on the program. And

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Speaker 1: I'll yell at him, although he doesn't take my calls

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Speaker 1: like he used to. But all right, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you one final question. So you're up for re election

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Speaker 1: in right, I am. Does my endorsement help you or

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Speaker 1: hurt you? Because absolutely, I look at you, I enthusiastically

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Speaker 1: indorse you for re election. We need you in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: we really do. I mean, you have been a leader

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Speaker 1: and a principal conservative all these years. I know people

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Speaker 1: thought we went sideways during the election. We did not.

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Speaker 1: I've always loved Ted Cruz and I could tell people

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Speaker 1: all the time and it frustrated me to no end.

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Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, if we don't have people like

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Speaker 1: you in the Senate, we're we're dead. We really need

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Speaker 1: you well, Sean Shan, thank you, and you know you

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Speaker 1: endorsed me early in the primary when I first ran

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Speaker 1: for Senate in and I'm grateful for your friendship and

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Speaker 1: I'll come down and do anything you need, because if

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Speaker 1: we don't have Ted Cruises in the Senate, we're just

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Speaker 1: we're done. I appreciate it very much. And and if

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Speaker 1: your listeners agree, our our website is Ted Cruise dot org.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruise dot org, Ted Cruise dot org. Alright, Senator,

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Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. Thank you for being with us,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for what you're doing on this. We've got

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Speaker 1: to get it done. Failure is not an option, and

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Speaker 1: we'll follow it. It's frustrating as hell, but we've got

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Speaker 1: to get it done. Eight one Sean are toll free

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Speaker 1: telephone number. You want to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to check in with

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett. Amazing details that nobody in the

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Speaker 1: media is covering about Hillary Clinton and corrupt quick break

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Speaker 1: right back, we'll continue. Alright, Imagine for a second that

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Speaker 1: the FBI is asking you for your phones and your

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Speaker 1: devices to hand over, and you take a hammer and

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Speaker 1: you smash them, or you hand them over with out

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Speaker 1: the sim cards. Well, new information from the FBI shows

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Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton did just that. Why is the media

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Speaker 1: ignoring it? That's called obstruction of justice? Greg Jarrett Sarah

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Speaker 1: Carter Next. Later on, we'll get to a lot of

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Speaker 1: your calls today and more on healthcare, our top story.

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Speaker 1: I want to share with you today where I am

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Speaker 1: at on healthcare reform. First of all, I remain committed

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Speaker 1: to repealing the Affordable Care Act. In in Alaska, we

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Speaker 1: are down to to one provider in the individual market.

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Speaker 1: The state has been forced to spend its extremely limited

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Speaker 1: general fund dollars to stabilize that market, even as our

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Speaker 1: premiums are are still rising. So you've got rising premiums.

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Speaker 1: We've spent a lot of the state to attempt to

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Speaker 1: stabilize and and we we have just one provider on

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Speaker 1: the individual market. Later this week to set up will

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Speaker 1: consider a bill to repeal Obamacare, a costly disaster that

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Speaker 1: four years later, six five years later, we see has

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Speaker 1: cost countless people access to their doctor, access to their

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Speaker 1: healthcare plan of their choice. And the thousands of West

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Speaker 1: Virginians from my state who have lost or had to

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Speaker 1: change their coverage. We ought to ask individuals and families

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Speaker 1: whose premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed, and the small businesses

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Speaker 1: who have been forced to cut hours and employees. Americans

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Speaker 1: deserve a healthcare system that works for them, and we

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Speaker 1: know that Obamacare is not it. There is a better way.

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Speaker 1: In two UM, I don't think that many of my

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Speaker 1: Democratic friends thought they were voting for a bill that

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Speaker 1: would kill jobs. I really don't. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would have voted for it. I can't believe that they

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Speaker 1: thought that Obamacare would drive up premium costs and make

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Speaker 1: healthcare harder to get as it has. But that is

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Speaker 1: what's happening, and that's why I believe it needs to

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Speaker 1: be repealed and replaced. Today here in the United States

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Speaker 1: Senate and tomorrow as we debate this and vote on it,

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Speaker 1: we've got a chance to move the ball forward and

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Speaker 1: show people that at least the majority here in the

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Speaker 1: United States Congress agree we have to address this issue. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This vote will show that there's some here in Congress

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Speaker 1: who are listening and have some answers. Our job is

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Speaker 1: to do what's right, and that's the past. This legislation

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Speaker 1: to repeal and replace Obamacare to give us a chance

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Speaker 1: to get rid of some of the most detrimental aspects

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Speaker 1: of it that are eliminating jobs, that are pushing healthcare

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Speaker 1: costs higher and higher. One of the major reasons that

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Speaker 1: I strongly opposed the Affordable Healthcare Act was that there

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Speaker 1: was nothing affordable about it. I predicted it would lead

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Speaker 1: to fewer choices and higher insurance costs for middle income

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Speaker 1: families and small businesses. Congress must work together to address

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Speaker 1: the very real healthcare concerns of the American people and

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Speaker 1: the budget reality. Sweet face. Repealing Obamacare's poorly crafted and

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Speaker 1: misguided mandates and replacing the law with a fiscally responsible

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Speaker 1: reef warm bill that contains costs and provides more choices

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Speaker 1: is the best path forward. Thank you, Mr President. Alright,

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Speaker 1: our to Shawn Hannity Show. There you have all the

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Speaker 1: Big four Susan Collins repeal Obamacare, Rob Portman repeal Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: Kelley Moore Capital repeal Obamacare, Lisa Murkowski repeal Obamacare. It's unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: you know. So you've got four people. Now every other

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Speaker 1: person that made the promises willing, the President's willing to

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Speaker 1: sign it. I've been here just six months. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to act. I have pen in hand. To believe me,

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting in that office. I have pen in hand.

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Speaker 1: You never had that before. You know, for seven years

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Speaker 1: you had an easy route, will repeal, will replace, and

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Speaker 1: he's never gonna sign it. But I'm signing it. So

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But I'm ready to act.

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Speaker 1: For seven years, you promised the American people that you

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Speaker 1: would repeal Obamacare. People are hurting in action is not

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Speaker 1: an option. And frankly, I don't think we should leave

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Speaker 1: town unless we have a health insurance plan, unless we

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Speaker 1: can give our people great healthcare. The House will go

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Speaker 1: along with it, the center will go along with it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get rid of this monstrosity, which I think works

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Speaker 1: how better in the end. Anyway, I didn't like the

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Speaker 1: house built, particularly that much. Wasn't everything we wanted. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here to comment and go through all of this with us.

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Speaker 1: Betsy McCoy probably knows more about Obamacare than anybody else

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Speaker 1: in the country. And Dr Josh Umber, whose life I ruined,

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Speaker 1: who runs the Atlas m D practice in Wichita, Kansas

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Speaker 1: and now has devoted his whole life to doing the

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show and go into Congress. How are you both?

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Speaker 1: That's great, well, very good, thank you. What is your take?

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Speaker 1: You know, Betsy McCoy, this is a disaster. It is

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Speaker 1: a disaster. And let me point out that if members

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Speaker 1: of Congress we're feeling the same pain as the rest

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Speaker 1: of us, like the eighteen million people in the individual

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Speaker 1: market who have plans that are unaffordable with deductibles that

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Speaker 1: are sky high. Another eight million people, Sean who are

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Speaker 1: paying a penalty, the average penalty now for not having

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Speaker 1: Obamacare because they can't afford it. But members of Congress

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Speaker 1: aren't feeling that pain despite what the Affordable Care Act says.

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Speaker 1: The Act actually requires that members of Congress purchased their

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Speaker 1: coverage on the Obamacare exchanges and followed the same rules

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Speaker 1: as the rest of us. But wouldn't you know it,

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Speaker 1: President Obama set up a way for them to weasele

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Speaker 1: out of that legal requirement. So these members of Congress,

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Speaker 1: including the hypocrites you just heard from, right, they get

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Speaker 1: to choose from fifty seven gold plans and have us

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Speaker 1: John Q Public and Jane que Public pick up most

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Speaker 1: of the tab And that's one of the reasons Sean

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Speaker 1: that they don't feel the urgency to do something about

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Speaker 1: this because they're not feeling the pain. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: that's all true. And by the way, did you say

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Speaker 1: that they're thinking about not themselves, that they're not even

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Speaker 1: uh going to apply the new laws to them selves.

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Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. It is unbelievable. And Madison warned us

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Speaker 1: was fifty seven. He warned us two centuries ago that

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Speaker 1: as soon as Congress starts passing laws that they're not

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Speaker 1: willing to live by themselves, that is the end of freedom.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Get on, Dr Number, I have you

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Speaker 1: on the program. I didn't. I didn't realize until the

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Speaker 1: last time you were on that I started interviewing you

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Speaker 1: back in I didn't even know. It's been five years.

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Speaker 1: I've known you for five years. We have been telling

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Speaker 1: people that there's a there's a better way that there

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Speaker 1: that it's working. You know, here you are, you're dedicating

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Speaker 1: your life to your patients, and every doctor I know

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Speaker 1: it does the same thing. I have a great respect

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Speaker 1: doctors sacrifice a lot and and they save lives. Every

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Speaker 1: doctor I know works for people for free because they

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Speaker 1: can't afford every doctor. They don't even question it. It's

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Speaker 1: they write off half the people they do now. But

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Speaker 1: the point is that you've figured out a way that

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Speaker 1: that every American can have concierge care, doctor availability twenty

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Speaker 1: four seven. And yet you know, you go and talk

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Speaker 1: to these idiots and wash Ington and they still can't

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Speaker 1: get it. I don't understand it. I agree, especially after

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Speaker 1: your explanation on on it yesterday. There's a huge outpouring

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Speaker 1: of questions and the people want this um. They're they're calling,

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Speaker 1: their texting, their emailing, they're asking us to find a

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Speaker 1: doctor in their area because this just makes sense. But

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Speaker 1: somehow that the same senators who said they would vote

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Speaker 1: to repeal it now won't vote to repeal it are

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Speaker 1: the same ones who just can't understand that this is

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Speaker 1: a better model. It actually means less government, more free market,

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Speaker 1: but more options. Now poor patients get medicine for opinion

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Speaker 1: a pill too. That's great for them. And it's I

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Speaker 1: think sad and frustrating that we're not penetrating farther into

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Speaker 1: the DC mindset. I guess. Let me point out that

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Speaker 1: although the Congress seems to be at a standstill because

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Speaker 1: of the holdouts, these actually there are five or six

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Speaker 1: senators now who are balking at the idea of supporting

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Speaker 1: repeal because they don't want to repeal Medicaid the Medicaid expansion.

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Speaker 1: Let me point out that there is a way to

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Speaker 1: offer relief to the millions of people were talking about

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Speaker 1: who are stuck in these Obamacare plans. They're unaffordable, they

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Speaker 1: no longer have a choice of doctors where they're paying

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Speaker 1: these penalties. The Affordable Care Act is really two laws

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Speaker 1: glued together. One is the Medicaid expansion that's where most

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Speaker 1: people who were uninsured got their coverage, and the other

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Speaker 1: is this federal takeover of insurance laws that used to

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Speaker 1: be done by the state. It used to be the

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Speaker 1: states that regulated them. So if those senators are holding

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Speaker 1: out on the Medicaid change, they Congress should at least

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Speaker 1: pass a repeal of the parts of Obamacare that regulate

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Speaker 1: the commercial insurance market to give relief, choice and affordability

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Speaker 1: again to the eighteen million people who are affected by

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Speaker 1: those laws. I mean, east take half a loaf, Reagan

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Speaker 1: said way back in the eighties. I can't get a

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Speaker 1: tem percent tax cut, so I'm willing to settle for five.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, a half a loaf is better than nothing.

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Speaker 1: They could pass half of a repeal bill today, Sean,

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Speaker 1: and provide relief to all those people in the individual

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Speaker 1: market who are being What did you make by the

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Speaker 1: federal government? What did you make a McConnell's comments when

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Speaker 1: he came out and said, all right, they're going to

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Speaker 1: allow amendments to be in and they plan on getting

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Speaker 1: on this next week. Is that his signal to these

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Speaker 1: four senators that in fact that well, we'll give you,

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Speaker 1: We'll give you what you need to get to get

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Speaker 1: you over the hump. It may be he's got a

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Speaker 1: lot to offer, and of course the president has virtually

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Speaker 1: an unlimited ability to offer these senators things. But the

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Speaker 1: fact is they voted for the repeal before, they should

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Speaker 1: be willing to do it again. Yeah. I agree. You

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Speaker 1: know how many people doctors around the country, Dr Umber,

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Speaker 1: have you been able to sort of offer a tutorial

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Speaker 1: to and and they've taken your council and they've been

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Speaker 1: able to build their own co operatives. How many of

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Speaker 1: these cooperatives now exist around the country. We've personally helped

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Speaker 1: over three hundred doctors convert to this model. Um and

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Speaker 1: just in May we had twenty four doctors convert, but

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Speaker 1: there's probably up to you know, thousand doctors doing this

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Speaker 1: model in some regard. But there's two hundred fifty primary

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Speaker 1: care or family physicians, almost five hundred thousand family physicians

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Speaker 1: primary care. We we have a long ways to go,

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Speaker 1: um we you know, and it is growing and as

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Speaker 1: doctors learn more, as patients learn more. It's really taken

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Speaker 1: off in the last year or two. But we've got

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Speaker 1: a long ways to go. And UM we need bad

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Speaker 1: legislation to be removed to open up the floodgates allow um,

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Speaker 1: you know, states to control this. If block granting medicate

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Speaker 1: dollars from the federal government to the state makes sense

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Speaker 1: because of less paperwork than paying your doctor directly because

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Speaker 1: of less paperwork makes sense to UM if you if

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Speaker 1: we can lower interest know, I just want to remind

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Speaker 1: people though I if I lived in Wichita, you know,

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Speaker 1: now that I've gotten to know you, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: have to like my doctor, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you'd be like my friend who is my personal doctor now,

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Speaker 1: but he actually kidnaps me to to do a check

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Speaker 1: up on me and then he never lets me go.

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Speaker 1: And and it's because he loves me, and he knows

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Speaker 1: that I'm not going to come in voluntarily. And although

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Speaker 1: that's not true if I you know, one time I

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Speaker 1: accidentally dropped a knife on my leg and I and

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Speaker 1: I ripped it open. And then when I one day

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Speaker 1: he sees me, we're playing golf and and he looks

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Speaker 1: at my LEGO, what did you do as well? I

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Speaker 1: dropped the knife on it yesterday. He looks at it.

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Speaker 1: You needed fifteen stitchies, you idiot, And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't bleeding that bad. And oh boy, anyway,

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Speaker 1: but it was a pretty deep insurance premiums for small

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Speaker 1: businesses they make of the job. We would have an

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Speaker 1: economic boom that would last generations. I mean, this isn't

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Speaker 1: a need, this is a must. I mean this, this

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Speaker 1: is an essential thing that needs fixed to help the

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Speaker 1: economy and help patient. All right, I just stay right there.

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Speaker 1: We gotta take a quick break eight D nine for one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, alright.

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Speaker 1: So the meeting with the president has ended, and now

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Speaker 1: we had Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader. I'm mad

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Speaker 1: at him too, because you know what they take their suite.

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Speaker 1: You know what time in the Senate and look what happens,

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Speaker 1: and they could have gotten has done a lot earlier.

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Speaker 1: There's no sense of urgency with any of these people

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Speaker 1: in Washington. We still have an economic plan to pass,

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Speaker 1: we still have a wall to be built, we still

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Speaker 1: have a hundred other issues to be dealt with, and

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Speaker 1: we're still fighting over healthcare. Is beyond frustrating. And then

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Speaker 1: we have four senators you know that are now holding out. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. McConnell said there will be a

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Speaker 1: vote and a motion to proceed and that's going to

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Speaker 1: take place next week. We continue with Dr josh On

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Speaker 1: Bury's with Atlas m d and Wichita Kansas and Betsy McCoy.

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Speaker 1: What did you want to say, Betsy? I think competition,

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Speaker 1: free markets. The Senators who so far refusing to go

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Speaker 1: along with repeal are cowed by the demacoguery coming from

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Speaker 1: the Democrats who have so misrepresented the changes to Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: It's only fair to point that out right now the

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Speaker 1: Democrats are saying we need to continually expand Medicaid. How

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Speaker 1: much over half of all the women who give birth

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Speaker 1: in the United States now send the bill to Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: There are seventy four million people on Medicaid. That's twenty

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Speaker 1: million more than on the universal healthcare program for the elderly, Medicare.

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Speaker 1: And this rapid expansion of Medicaid is threatening to drown

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Speaker 1: the nation and redding. It's already the largest item on

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Speaker 1: many state budgets, so it's crowding out schools and roads

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Speaker 1: and other needs. But the Democrats are unwilling to have

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Speaker 1: a discussion about how big Medicaid should be. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean the thing that frustrates me if they end up,

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Speaker 1: because they're going to offer amendments now in this bill,

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Speaker 1: if they end up bulking it up with pork and

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Speaker 1: bribery for these senators to do what they said they

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Speaker 1: were going to do, and you know what, then it

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Speaker 1: defeats the purpose, doesn't it already does? Do you know that?

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Speaker 1: I laughed when I saw that the Senate bill included

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Speaker 1: forty five billion dollars billion with a B for opioid

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Speaker 1: opioid treatment. Now here's the here's the gist of that.

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Speaker 1: That's why that's so astounding. That's ten times more than

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Speaker 1: the federal government is allocating for breast cancer research. It

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Speaker 1: is forty times more than the Obama administration allocated for

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Speaker 1: opioid addiction research and treatment. And yet Chuck Schumer Senate

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Speaker 1: Majority Senate Minority leader is still complaining it's not enough.

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Speaker 1: It's just demagoguery. You know, I guess from your prospective

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Speaker 1: doctor number, I mean, is somebody that successfully offers concierge

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Speaker 1: service to every patient. You have over six patients. You

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Speaker 1: have how many doctors in your practice? We have five

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Speaker 1: or so? Okay, And so you got all these patients

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Speaker 1: and you're doing it and you make it a pretty

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Speaker 1: healthy living ring. And I mean that's the point. There's

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Speaker 1: such a better way to do it. And you listen

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Speaker 1: to these idiots in d C and it's frustrated. Must

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Speaker 1: frustrate you. It is because like she was just saying,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to throw money at a problem when that's

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00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: not not the solution. We keep throwing money and then

856
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: we keep getting worse healthcare outcomes for it um what

857
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: they need. Like that's why we were excited that Trump,

858
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: as a businessman would come in and bring business entrepreneurial

859
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: thought process in here and streamline and cut burdens and

860
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: regulation and focus on value and we could have a

861
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: whole lot better healthcare system for a fraction of the price,

862
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: if the Senators would just quit trying to grow the government. Alright,

863
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Speaker 1: I gotta thank you both for being one of us.

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Speaker 1: Dr Number I'm sorry I ruined your life. I still

865
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Speaker 1: love you. Thank you. And uh, Betsy McCoy, have you

866
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Speaker 1: ever gotten rid of that marked up copy of OBAMACAREY

867
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: still have it in bed with you. We're going to

868
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Speaker 1: repeal it, so it's on my desk. I want your

869
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Speaker 1: copy because I want to burn it. I want to

870
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Speaker 1: I want to get rid of it. If if they

871
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: ever get rid of this thing, well let's hope that

872
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: we never see a bill passed through Congress that big. Again.

873
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Speaker 1: You're the only one that actually read the thing. All right,

874
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: thank you both for being with us. All right, what

875
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: about the forty two pages highly redacted documents FBI, Greg

876
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: jareded Sarah Carter there next and then much more in

877
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Speaker 1: your call straight ahead? Well it's odd. It's like we

878
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: have this giant roar shack test where everyone sees inc

879
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: plots and sees crimes everywhere. I mean, the criminal code

880
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: has defined elements to it. You just don't find these

881
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: ambiguous crimes. Some people have said this could be treason.

882
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: For love of God, treason is defined in the Constitution.

883
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: This is not treason. Other people have said this could

884
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Speaker 1: be a Logan Act violation. Well, Logan Act has been

885
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: used once in two hundred years and is facially unconstitutional.

886
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: One said, well, if you take things of tangible value

887
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Speaker 1: under the campaign laws and treat information like that, then

888
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: maybe you have a campaign contribution violation. Well, yeah, but

889
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that done. You could also treat it

890
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Speaker 1: like a panda and say it's an endangered species violation,

891
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: but courts haven't done that. So I think that people

892
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Speaker 1: need to take a breath. You know, this was a

893
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Speaker 1: meeting where someone said they had evidence of a possible

894
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Speaker 1: crime by the opponent of the Trump campaign. Um, they

895
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Speaker 1: met with this person. I think a lot of people

896
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Speaker 1: in the city view that as naive. I think a

897
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Speaker 1: lot of people say, my god, why didn't you use

898
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Speaker 1: a surrogate, which is how it's done in Washington. But

899
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Speaker 1: that itself is not a crime. If you get something

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Speaker 1: of value, and they are alleging that information from a

901
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: value from a foreign national could be you know, stretched

902
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Speaker 1: out to mean you know words. Is that something that's

903
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Speaker 1: ever been prosecuted, of course not, and if it were

904
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Speaker 1: to be prosecuted the First Amendment with Trump, a candidate

905
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Speaker 1: has the right to get information from whatever source the

906
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Speaker 1: information comes. It's very much like the New York Times

907
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Speaker 1: publishing the Pentagon Papers case, or the Washington Post publishing

908
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Speaker 1: materials stolen by Snowdon and Manning. You don't prosecute the newspaper.

909
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Speaker 1: They of a First Amendment right, and you don't prosecute

910
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: the candidate of the canadidate Son they have a First

911
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: Amendment right to get the material. If the material was

912
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: obtained unlawfully, you prosecute if you can, the people who

913
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: obtained the material. But there is a First Amendment right

914
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Speaker 1: of a candidate to use information, and so you can't

915
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Speaker 1: include information under the campaign finance law. That would be

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Speaker 1: on constitution. Let me ask you. I understand Hillary Clinton lost,

917
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Speaker 1: and I understand this effort was not as elaborate as

918
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Speaker 1: as as the Russian effort. But was it acceptable or

919
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been acceptable for the Democrats to accept help

920
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: from the Ukrainian government in this campaign? No, it would

921
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: be appropriate for the Democrats to accept help from the

922
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian government. But I think if you look at the

923
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Speaker 1: political article, and we're talking about just a single article here.

924
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Speaker 1: If you accept all the facts in the article, the

925
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Speaker 1: scale of what the Russians did is not comparable to

926
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Speaker 1: anything in that article. If it were, the comparable analogy

927
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Speaker 1: would be that the Ukrainian president directed the Ukrainian intelligence

928
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Speaker 1: agencies to steal the hack Donald Trump's campaigns, the emails

929
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Speaker 1: published them, directed a social media army to influence the election,

930
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Speaker 1: and sat down its representatives, sat down with Chelsea Clinton

931
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Speaker 1: and John Podesta in which they indicated they wanted the

932
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Speaker 1: dirt on Donald Trump. There's no suggestion anything of that

933
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Speaker 1: magnetusde So the scale is different. Acknowledge that, But this

934
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Speaker 1: is problematic. This Ukrainian meeting is problematic. In your well,

935
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Speaker 1: it would be problematic to get any kind of support

936
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Speaker 1: from a foreign government. But again, I think to compare

937
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Speaker 1: the two is a bit like comparing bank robbery with

938
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Speaker 1: writing a check with insufficient funds. Both appropriate money from

939
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: the bank improperly, but a very different degree of seriousness

940
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Speaker 1: and involvement, in this case by a foreign government. And

941
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Speaker 1: as we roll along, that was Jonathan Turley, Alan Dershowitz,

942
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Speaker 1: and even Congressman Schiff saying everything that we have been

943
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: telling you about all of these issues. Everything. Anyway, glad

944
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Speaker 1: you with US eight nine for one Shawn Tolfree telephone

945
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Speaker 1: number you want to be a part of the program.

946
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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, Senior editor Circa dot Com. Greg Jarrett Legal,

947
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: anilist Fox News. You know what, right, let's go back

948
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: to and you've written columns about it in detail, and

949
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: they have one respected liberal Democratic lawyer after another not

950
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: told the party line. But I actually care about the

951
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: rule of law, equal application of the law, and the

952
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: constitution saying sorry, it's not a crime to get information

953
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: if somebody says I got something for you. But yet

954
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: the media plays this up like this is Watergate fifty degree. Well,

955
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: and what's interesting is that no member of the mainstream

956
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: media seems to have bothered to even look at the

957
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Federal Election Commission's government website, which makes it perfectly clear

958
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Speaker 1: that it's lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in

959
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: American political campaign Sean. And in fact, let me just

960
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: quote it. It's one line and it's very simple. Even

961
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: though a foreign national cannot make campaign contributions, he or

962
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: she can serve as an uncompensated volunteer for any campaign

963
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: or medical party, and then the website goes on to

964
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: state that foreigners are allowed to camp, attend campaign strategy

965
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: meetings and events. The Commission says none of this is

966
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: considered to be a contribution. So how is it possible

967
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: that the media ever bothers to look at the main

968
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: website that explains the law on elections and what's legal

969
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: and what's not legal with respect to the Russian lawyer

970
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: meeting with Donald Trump Jr. I mean, do you see

971
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: a difference in the Ukraine situation at all or is

972
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: that legal in your mind too? Even though you have

973
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: a DNC operative as being paid by the d n

974
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: C meeting at the Ukrainian embassy with the Ukrainian ambassador

975
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: and sharing the information with the d n C and

976
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign under the Federal Election Commissions guidelines, rules

977
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: and the law, and it conforms completely with the Code

978
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: of Federal Regulations, um, you know, which identifies crimes and

979
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: non crimes. Um. It is legal for you know, Hillary

980
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: Clinton to have collaborated with the Ukrainian government as long

981
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: as they're not in any decision making capacity, but providing

982
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: information is legal. What's astonishing is the hypocrisy that you've

983
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: pointed out repeatedly among the mainstream media, you know, they

984
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: yawn and ignore the Hillary Ukrainian connection, but but they

985
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: go apoplectic over Donald Trump junior meeting, you know, with

986
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: a Russian lawyer to obtain information in both cases is

987
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: perfectly legal, but the media demonizes Trump and gives a

988
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: free ride to Hillary Clinton. Let me go to you, Sarah.

989
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: You know, Sarah, you've done so much good investigative work,

990
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: and you know, the media all sheep because they just

991
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: follow each other. And meanwhile, you, you and John and

992
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: and my friend Greg here, you all have broken ground

993
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: in so many different areas. You're the one that talked

994
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: early on about a FISA surveillance is warrant. You're the

995
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: one that talked about another warrant. You're the one that

996
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: exposed yeah, Trump Tower was being surveiled. Then you talked

997
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: about unmasking. We're supposed to have Susan Rice testifying this

998
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: week and we'll see if that happens and what's going

999
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: on with that. But now we have this, this leak

1000
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: is dumped by the FBI. Was fascinating to me because

1001
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: you've got forty two pages of highly sensitive FBI criminal

1002
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: investigation into the email server scandal, and then you find out,

1003
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, all part of a midyear exam. Then they

1004
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: talk about grand jury material when you couple with what

1005
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: Judicial Watch found, and then you begin to you know,

1006
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: find out, well, Hillary Clinton, by the way, was asked

1007
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: by the FBI, she's obstructing justice. Destroyed some of her

1008
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: her cell phone devices with a hammer, and then she

1009
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: hands over to the FBI cell phones that don't have

1010
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: a SIM card in them, which rendered them useless. Isn't

1011
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: that obstruction of justice under any reasonable interpretation, Yes, it

1012
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: appears to be an obstruction of justice. And this is

1013
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: what the FBI who were on the case, who were

1014
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: following this case, who were part of building a case

1015
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: against Hillary Clinton, looking at these facts. I mean, if

1016
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Speaker 1: you just look at these redacted documents, and they're so

1017
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're highly redacted. So there were pages and

1018
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: pages of documents that nobody could see. Judicial Watch just

1019
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: did not even have a word on them. But the

1020
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Speaker 1: ones that had a few a little bit of information

1021
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: exposed that. You know that there were documents that were

1022
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: designated to go to a grand jury. And I can

1023
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: tell you this from talking to law enforcement officials who

1024
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: were very close to this case, who had firsthand knowledge

1025
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: of what was going on here. They told me that

1026
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: their senior leaderships had them bending over backwards for the

1027
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Speaker 1: d o J. I mean, they just couldn't get two

1028
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Speaker 1: steps ahead because they were forced to bend backwards for

1029
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: the d o J every single time. I mean to

1030
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Speaker 1: the point where I mean even former FBI Director Comy

1031
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: had to admit where Cheryl Mills was getting in on

1032
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: the interview with Hillary Clinton and she was a potential witness,

1033
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: he had to admit that that never happened. So there

1034
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: were a lot of issues with how this played out.

1035
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, especially because of the work

1036
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Speaker 1: of Judicial Watch, which is what you know, John and

1037
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: I try to do is get those documents, get those

1038
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Speaker 1: facts so when the facts are on their faith, nobody

1039
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: can dispute them. And what Judicial Watch was able to

1040
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: do was get these documents to give us a little

1041
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: peak into how difficult it was for our federal law

1042
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: enforcement officers, for our for our agents, FBI agents who

1043
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: are conducting this investigation, to conduct this investigation. And remember, Sean,

1044
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Speaker 1: even within the FBI senior leadership was basically and this

1045
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: is according to sources that I've spoken with. They were saying, look,

1046
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have to worry about this after the

1047
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: November elections because basically Hillary is going to be the president.

1048
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: So everybody was assuming Hillary was gonna win right at

1049
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: that point. Those people that were supporting were people within

1050
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: the FBI, So there was a reason to not move

1051
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: this case forward. And um, apparently from what we're seeing

1052
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: from these documents, that was not the case with those

1053
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: that were conducting the investigation. All right, stay right there,

1054
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Speaker 1: we'll continue. Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter eight nine one

1055
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Speaker 1: Shawn are toll free telephone number. You want to be

1056
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: a part of the program. All Right, it's really really

1057
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Speaker 1: hot these last couple of days in the Northeast and

1058
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Speaker 1: New York hazy hot human Hannity days this summer. But

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Speaker 1: you know, look, you want the best comfort, You want

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Speaker 1: and comfortable as possible. Well, some of you might be

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Speaker 1: wearing like old T shirts and you're sweating like crazy

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Speaker 1: in the more old underwear, old socks. And it's amazing

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Speaker 1: for summer. Now that Uncle Joe is left up building,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can get back to bringing jobs old that's jobs,

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Speaker 1: Jo b This is the Sean Hannity show. Right, as

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Speaker 1: we continue with Greg Jarrett and Sarah Carter, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Hillary Clinton, we have more information of

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Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. Greg, let me ask you about First

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Speaker 1: of all, why didn't the media pick up on this

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Speaker 1: forty two page FBI document dump? How come if if

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, if basically they mentioned the word grand jury,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all right, they might have been a grand

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Speaker 1: jury convened. Then I'm thinking, Okay, she the whole narrative

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Speaker 1: that she gave us was well, I just wanted the

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Speaker 1: convenience of one device. That was the whole narrative about

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Speaker 1: the email server scandal. And I just wanted I only

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Speaker 1: had one device. Let me find out she has a BlackBerry,

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Speaker 1: an iPad and iPod or an iPhone rather and then

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Speaker 1: she on top of that, she has a hammer and

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Speaker 1: they break how many devices for her and smash them

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Speaker 1: up into biddy pizzas. And then the FBI knows she

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Speaker 1: has three other ones, she hands them over without any

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Speaker 1: sim cards. Is that not obstruction of justice? If you

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Speaker 1: destroy evidence relevant to appending investigation, it's obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 1: You're destroying evidence to allegedly hide a crime. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know they handed over two of phones, smartphones, but

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Speaker 1: without SIM cards. I mean, yeah, it's like handing over

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Speaker 1: your computer, but I'm not going to give you my

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Speaker 1: hard drive, so it's it's utterly worthless. And then they

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Speaker 1: were requested to hand over it was actually demanded that

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Speaker 1: they hand over thirteen mobile devices in all, they turned

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Speaker 1: over none of them. So and all of the excuses

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Speaker 1: that were offered were utterly vacuous. Um. And yet the

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Speaker 1: you know, the FBI lets it go and the media

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Speaker 1: ignores it in in the dump that you just referred

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Speaker 1: to when they heavily redacted all of this information. But

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Speaker 1: you can see what went on the Hillary campaign, and

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and and all of her associates, um went

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Speaker 1: out of their way to be uncooperative. It's it's amazing

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Speaker 1: to me that five people received immunity, five others took

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Speaker 1: the fifth, and yet Hillary Clinton wasn't even sworn uh

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Speaker 1: in during her brief interviewing, which all she could remember

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Speaker 1: was her name and data birth. I mean more than

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Speaker 1: thirty times she said, I don't remember, I don't recall.

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Speaker 1: She didn't even remember the tutorial she received telling her

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Speaker 1: how to handle classified information, or the memos that she

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Speaker 1: sent to our own staff. I mean, let's be yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is why I don't know where Jeff

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Speaker 1: Sessions is. Maybe something's happening that we don't know out

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Speaker 1: and maybe you'll be able to discover it, Sarah Carter.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, Okay, we have a new attorney general,

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01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: statute of limitations have not gone anywhere. Why isn't this

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Speaker 1: woman being investigated? I we don't know that. We don't

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Speaker 1: know that she's not Sean, And let's just put it

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Speaker 1: that way, you know, And I've I've spoken to a

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Speaker 1: number of people in federal law enforcement, and many times

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Speaker 1: these cases never fully get closed. So maybe they've reopened it.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that yet. And you're right, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to continue to investigate this. But just looking at all

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Speaker 1: of those facts that we now see before it's laid

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Speaker 1: out on their face, it's hard to imagine where Director

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Speaker 1: Comy at the time, former Director Tommey at the time

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Speaker 1: came to the conclusion on July fifth, two thousand sixteen,

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Speaker 1: to say that no reasonable prosecutor would take such a case. Um,

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: could you imagine if any of us had decided to

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Speaker 1: destroy our what appeared to be evidence that the FBI

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: was seeking or take out the SIM cards out of

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Speaker 1: our cell phones before smash them with a ammer. I mean, imagine, Sean, Yes,

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Speaker 1: why do I know I'd be in jail? Why do

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: I know that I'd be hiring Greg Jarrett and Jay

1150
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: Sekulo and you know, Joe to Geneva Victoria. I'd have

1151
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: to have fifty attorneys to get and I'd still end

1152
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: up in jail. And you'd have to bring me a

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Speaker 1: file and a cake, a file in a cake. Yeah. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely think about doing that shot or a

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Speaker 1: bottle of vodka a day, well one of the others,

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Speaker 1: so I won't even know him in jail. Well if

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Speaker 1: if you if you bring up vodka, then they're going

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Speaker 1: to collude you with the Russian exactly. Yeah, seriously, but

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Speaker 1: looking at those facts on their face, I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: very serious issues. Now you can understand the enormous frustration

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Speaker 1: that a lot of federal investigators had when conducting this investigation. Right, Apparently,

1162
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: there were five separate FBI field offices conducting these investigations

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Speaker 1: into the Clinton email server, and there was anger among

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Speaker 1: the FBI agents. That's not just coming from the sources

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Speaker 1: on my spoken with McKay himself admitted that I've got

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Speaker 1: to run, but I'm gonna tell you if this doesn't

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Speaker 1: get open, we don't have equal justice under the law. Now,

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a break. I really appreciate both of

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Speaker 1: you being with us, Gregg Jarrett, Sarah Carter won will continue,

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Speaker 1: all right, news, round up, information, overload our eight nine one.

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Speaker 1: Shawn told free telephone number. You want to be a

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: part of the program, We're gonna get your calls on

1173
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: all of this. And if you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program, let's start with Seattle, Washington. Terry

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Speaker 1: is standing by Terry, Hi, how are you? And glad

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Speaker 1: you called? Hey, Sean, how are you? I'm good? All right?

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Speaker 1: So I actually met you once upon a time at

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Speaker 1: a fundraiser in Honolulu and I shook your hand. Is

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Speaker 1: the of why the liberal agenda can maintain its momentum

1180
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: even though you know they're in the majority in power.

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: It's the squeaky will, it's the grease and conservatives need

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: to get out of their safe space. This whole we're

1183
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: the conservatives, We're right, they're wrong. We're gonna win by

1184
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: logic is not working. The silent majority is not working.

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01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: We need more ground level activism knocking on doors. Given

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Speaker 1: the GOP money is not working, we need to be

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Speaker 1: more active. Listen, I I think what's gonna have to happen,

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Speaker 1: And it's all gonna play out in the next few months,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna know who we can count on and

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Speaker 1: who really needs to go, and there's just going to

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Speaker 1: have to be a there's just gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: some firings. I mean, look, one of the things I

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Speaker 1: don't like to do in my business is fire people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Linda can tell you more than but Linda,

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Speaker 1: how hard is it to get me to fire people?

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Speaker 1: It's pretty hard? Right, Yeah, it's pretty annoying. And Linda,

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Speaker 1: you know, usually to get me to fire somebody that

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Speaker 1: has you have to start at least a year out

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Speaker 1: right more. It's like too, it's a nightmare. And so

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fire. And what is my rule?

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: That people always fire themselves? Okay? But I try to

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01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: give everybody the opportunity. And you know, the way my

1203
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: brain works is that, you know, you want to give

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Speaker 1: everybody every opportunity. And I understand that everybody doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the urgency of a Linda or me or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: you you kind of everybody, you kind of put them

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Speaker 1: in their zone and where as long as they're doing

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: their part and their job and the way, that's affective.

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: But if they're not, you set them down and you

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Speaker 1: try and help them. Well, you know what, Sean, can

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Speaker 1: I can I jump in here for a second, because

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Speaker 1: Laura and I worked really really hard today and we

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Speaker 1: tried our best as people who actually have the numbers

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Speaker 1: on the inside to these senators. We have the press lines,

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Speaker 1: we have the direct lines, we have direct emails where

1216
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Speaker 1: we gave them out earlier. But but here's the real problem.

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Speaker 1: So here we are not calling the public numbers. You know,

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Speaker 1: these people forget that they work for the American people.

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Speaker 1: So we have a little bit of an advantage because

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Speaker 1: we have a better number, we have a more direct email.

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Speaker 1: We cannot get responses, we cannot get past an intern

1222
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: we cannot get an answer, we cannot get a confirmation

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Speaker 1: on a potential request for an interview. And the problem

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Speaker 1: is you're willing to go out and make the American

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Speaker 1: people subject to these rulings and these votes that you

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Speaker 1: are either willing or unwilling to give, depending on what

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Speaker 1: year it is. But you're not willing to talk about

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Speaker 1: those votes and that opinion. You're only willing to issue

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Speaker 1: statements where you don't have to be called to count

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Speaker 1: for what you're actually saying. And it's I have to say, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm appalled today. I'm so angry today, I can't even

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Speaker 1: I don't even have enough words to talk about angry.

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Speaker 1: I am well, to be perfectly honest, I have been

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Speaker 1: the victim of this wrath today behind the scenes. Well

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Speaker 1: you deserve it, okay, and so Terry. So what I'm

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: what I'm actually doing is letting her event right now

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01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: because she needs to better at the audience than me.

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 1: But I event, I mean yesterday I was left staring

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: at the sky in complete disbelief and awe. And what

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of and and this is just

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: my instinct. You know, we talk about the money, we

1242
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: talked about locking on doors, public support, and what do

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01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: you see on the left? What is working for them?

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's public These people on the left

1245
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: and why they maintain their powers. They've surrounded themselves with

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Speaker 1: an army. We see how they attack you, we see

1247
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: how they attack other conservatives. They literally have an army

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: that's willing to get as dirty as necessary to support

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Speaker 1: their cause. And on the right, we're just more principled.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to burn down businesses in march down

1251
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Speaker 1: the street and block traffic. I think it's called work.

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: We're too busy. Work. Listen, well, yeah, work, you know.

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Speaker 1: Let make finished my point on firing though, because this

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Speaker 1: is important and what you're saying now is getting to

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Speaker 1: a point. I'm well beyond my two year period here

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Speaker 1: and this is now a seven year long process of

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Speaker 1: repealing and replacing. And I don't have any more patients.

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Speaker 1: I have none. And for those people we get into

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: this next week and this battle and this fight is engaged,

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Speaker 1: and if they fail and if they don't do their

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Speaker 1: job and we don't get lower premiums and we don't

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Speaker 1: get this promise fulfilled, it's just I am going to

1263
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: have a list of names of people that need to

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Speaker 1: be fired. Well, Hanniday, we can't get rid of Susan Collins.

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Speaker 1: It's our only chance in Maine of getting a Republican Well,

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Speaker 1: if she's not going to repeal Obamacare, she's absolutely what's

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Speaker 1: the point it's so fresh or Lisa Murkowski demanding whatever

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Speaker 1: it is all right. I appreciate the call, Terre. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get to some other calls here. Mike is in Kentucky. Mike, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Sir Sean? Thanks. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna say you're a true patriot to appreciate everything you've done. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the sentence done a pathetic job at trying

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Speaker 1: to do this repew and replace. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to throw out a suggestion, why can't we replace and

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Speaker 1: then repeal? And here's what I'll explain. Can't they pass

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Speaker 1: a bill to begin selling insurance on a free market

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Speaker 1: by the end of this year, and then people can

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Speaker 1: choose Obamacare or they can choose the free market option.

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Speaker 1: And if the free market option is thus expensive and better,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna flock to that. Essentially that by itself

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Speaker 1: will make Obamacare, uh, you know, fail even quicker by

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Speaker 1: the end of Trump's first term. And so I'm wondering,

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Speaker 1: why can't they just do that they have both options

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Speaker 1: in place. Well, I don't disagree at all. I mean

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Speaker 1: they could have listen that Ted Cruz has a plan.

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Speaker 1: Even the House bill, the CBO came back and said

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Speaker 1: premium deductions, premium deductions, are huge, massive, needed, necessary free

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Speaker 1: market competition is it's supposed to be what the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party stands for. You know, that's where the health cooperatives

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Speaker 1: that we we talked about in the last hour commit

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Speaker 1: in in the last half hour. That's where health savings

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Speaker 1: accounts coming these. You know, the things that are being

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Speaker 1: done on the ground by people like Dr Umber are

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Speaker 1: so creative and so innovative, and it's so frustrating because

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Speaker 1: you know what, the average American can get concierge hop

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Speaker 1: quality twenty four access care, and they can get it

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Speaker 1: for as low as fifty dollars a month at ten

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Speaker 1: bucks a month for their kids. And we can get

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Speaker 1: a nine reduction in our pharmaceutical costs and we don't

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Speaker 1: have to pay astronomical you know, amounts of money going

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Speaker 1: to emergency rooms when we have the concierge care. You

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Speaker 1: know something, the carpenters, the contractors, the plumbers. I went

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Speaker 1: out to dinner. My son is home last night. I

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Speaker 1: went out to dinner with him and and we're at

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Speaker 1: a restaurant and I met this guy. I didn't remember him,

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Speaker 1: but you know, some fifteen years ago he had worked

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Speaker 1: on my house. You know, fixing a plumbing problem I had,

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Speaker 1: and he reminded me of the situation. I said, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember, and I'm just talking to him about his

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Speaker 1: business and you know those Why doesn't that guy get

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: the concierge care. Why is the government in the way

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Speaker 1: in the first place? Why are we forcing young people

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: to buy plans that they don't need, can't afford, and

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,799
Speaker 1: if they don't buy, we're penalizing them with a huge tax,

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Speaker 1: which many of them end up paying. It's so frustrating.

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: Government is not by of and for the people. Big

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: government is the problem. Reagan has said it. You know,

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Speaker 1: for all the work the president has done, some of

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: the best work he has done, you don't even know

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: about because he's just rolling back Obamacare regular rules and regulations.

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01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: Because you know, every five seconds, the government wants to

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Speaker 1: tell you you can't eat salt, or you can't drink

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01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: a soda, or you can't drink this many ounces of soda.

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Speaker 1: And yet is that the role and function we want

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Speaker 1: from these people? All right, I think we can get it.

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Speaker 1: I can get a replacement out there and let let

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Speaker 1: people compare Obamacare to the replacement. I think people start

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: going to replacement, and quit focusing on trying to repeal

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Speaker 1: it first, and the replacement by I disagree. I think

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Speaker 1: you gotta repeal it. You gotta get rid of it

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: because that allows all new creativity. I never liked the

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Speaker 1: House Bill for that reason. Dump it and start over,

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Speaker 1: and you can create the transition period where people are

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: covered and nobody's gon to get hurt as long as

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Speaker 1: you don't pork it all up. I mean, honestly, this

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Speaker 1: is the this this is gonna work out so much

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: better in the end. I in my opinion, it's so

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Speaker 1: much better. Anyway, I appreciate the call eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: for one Shawn, you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program as let's see as we check in now.

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Speaker 1: John is in Indianapolis, John High, How are you glad

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Speaker 1: you called? Sure, it's fantastic to talk to you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? You got you got Mr rand

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01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: Paul and Mr mcconnald are goth from you know, the

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Speaker 1: great state of Kentucky. But it's like they don't talk

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: to each other. You know, No, they talked to each other.

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: What's that? What's that? They know they talked to each other.

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Speaker 1: They actually have like a. I don't know they have

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Speaker 1: this like alliance. Okay, I won't but I won't go

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: after you. You don't go after me. I mean, it's

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: very transparent. I mean, Randa is very popular in the state.

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell probably a little less so. And Randa's decided

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: he's not going to go after the majority leader. And

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: the majority leader, I'm sure doesn't like Rand's position. He's

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01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: he won't fall in line on a lot of issues,

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: which is good for friend. And I think this was

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: Rand's idea from the get go, and I thought it

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01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: was a good idea. And I remember telling him I'll

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Speaker 1: support that idea. Let's repeal it like we did in

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect for senators, three of which voted to

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Speaker 1: repeal it in fifteen, backtrack on their on their repeal.

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Speaker 1: Nobody expected it, you know, all right, John, thank you,

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Speaker 1: my friend, Teresa, Frederick Maryland, next McAll. I guess in

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Speaker 1: the last few months, I've been very frustrated. But what's

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Speaker 1: been happening in the last couple of days is just

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: absolutely been sickening. Um. You know, right now in Congress,

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Speaker 1: they don't seem to have the American public's interests um

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Speaker 1: at all um. They're more interested in to me and

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: things that don't matter the election results. Russia trying to

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Speaker 1: get back at Trump. My message to them is do

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Speaker 1: what the American people voted you in force, do the

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Speaker 1: Republican agenda and start doing your job. You know. And

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Speaker 1: I'm just repeating what you just said in that um.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago they were going to repeal obama Care

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Speaker 1: and now they're not. And why is it because it's

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: Trump's the president? Is it because of special interest? I

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: really begin to wonder, want to I really think, and

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Speaker 1: I've said this that there are five groups that don't

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Speaker 1: like the president, and I have said that two of

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Speaker 1: those groups are never Trumpers and weak Republicans. And I

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Speaker 1: do believe there is an element of some in the

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: Republican Party that does not want this man to succeed.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I think they they they think they come

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01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: from a liberal enough state and they can get away

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01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: with it, or they can act like they're given away

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: free stuff to their their constituents, and that's their excuse.

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Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I don't put it past

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01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: these these idiots. What I want to play for you

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: some comments we had Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan's on

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Speaker 1: the program last night, and I want to play what

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Speaker 1: they said about the healthcare bill that they've been so

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Speaker 1: instrumental in helping get done. I like the clean repeal idea,

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: but three Republican senators you have what Collins, Murkowski and

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Compito I think is her name, all saying there against it.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the votes already for that. Congress Congressman Medals, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean one of the problems is two of those

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Speaker 1: senators you just mentioned actually voted on this very same

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Speaker 1: bill last year, and so just suggests that they're going

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Speaker 1: to vote no now when they voted yes to send

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Speaker 1: it to a president Barack Obama, Then why not send

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01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: the same bill to President Trump? Because I can tell

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: you we'll get a different result. We're being out worked

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: by the President of the United States. We've got to

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: get it done here, and enough is enough a clean repeal.

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: If we can't find a repeal and replacement vehicle, now

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01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: is the time to act on ye and Congressman Jordan's no,

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it never hurts to do what you said, right.

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: We told the American people were to repeal it. Let's

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: let's pass the same thing. We passed in and it's

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01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: a very different animal when you actually call the vote up.

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01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: I always tell people if if if you never kick

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: the ball off and play the game, you never you're

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01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,480
Speaker 1: never gonna actually know who wins. So sometimes the conventional

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: wisdom doesn't hold true. Let's call the role. Let's see

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01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: what happens. They might say they're gonna vote against it.

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01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: Call it up both in the House and the Senate,

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: and let's say, okay, are you really gonna vote different

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: than you voted just fifteen, sixteen, seventeen months ago. Are

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01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: you really gonna do something different than you told the

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: American people you were gonna do the last six years.

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01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: Never forget two thousand, two thousand, fourteen, two thousand and

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01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: sixteen elections. This was a central issue where we promised

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Speaker 1: them repeal. So let's call it up and see if

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01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: what they say now actually happens. When it's the role calling,

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: they're out there on the floor of the center of

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: the House actually casting the vote. Is there anybody at

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01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: all on the Democratic side of the aisle that's rulling

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01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: in any way to help Joe Mansion, any Democrat you

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: can think of, or were they just you know, literally

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: maybe eat well that that's if you repeal it first,

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: then maybe you can put together a coalition with some

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Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans to address them. So repeal it first,

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01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: then you might be able to put together the coalition

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: actually compress both sides. Agree with Congress, this could actually

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01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: work out better. You repeal it first and like and

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01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: they all voted for it, as you said, then you

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01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: could really make add the cooperatives I'm talking about, and

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: the health savings accounts we've been talking about, add the

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Speaker 1: catastrophic here that I've been talking about the interstates, and

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01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: work out better. Well, you're right all those points. The

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01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: President made that point last night when he commented on

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01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: this the very first time. He says, we'll get some

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: Democrat involvement. You know, when we're talking about repeal, it's

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: very difficult for a Democrat to vote on anything that

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01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: repeals something that has their president's name on it. But

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01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 1: once it's repealed, it's all about coming together and finding

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01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: out what works best. And and my good friend Jim

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: just mentioned that it's about that competition across state lines.

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01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: It's about making sure that we have a so creation

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01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 1: plans that actually can provide a group kind of policy

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: that would drive premiums down protect those pre existing conditions.

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01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: But we've got to be all hands on deck, you know,

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: having failure is not an option right now. And so

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01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: whether it's on the Senate side or the House sides,

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01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: let's go ahead with a clean, straight repeal and get

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01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: it done and make sure that we send something to

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01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: the President so he can sign all right, Mark Meadows,

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's, you know, but for the Freedom Caucus, I

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01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: honestly have no faith in people in Washington. All right,

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01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: we'll take a break, we'll come back when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Your calls coming up straight ahead till the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. Toll free or telephone numbers und nine for one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, a

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: lot more to say, We're just gonna continue to give

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01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: out the names and phone numbers of all these people

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: in Washington that aren't keeping their word. And it's unbelievable

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01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: that we have, you know, all of these issues, all

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: of these problems, all of these promises, all of these perks,

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: all of these spoiled breaths, and they can't get together

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01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: and get a single job done. It's amazing to me. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your calls in here, Scott and Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: Scott High how are you? What's up? Scott? Appropriate than

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: you do, and uh, you're a great part of my

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: day and thank you. What's going on? I just want

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01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, yesterday I was pretty apoplexic

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01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: about all the news that the Congress is just gonna

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: shoot down the the health build that you know, they

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01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: promised they're going to get rid of us for seven years,

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01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: sixty eight times they parted all and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and now they're not gonna do anything about it, and

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Speaker 1: that's just that's a betrayal to us. You know, well,

1482
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're not gonna do it. I mean,

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01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: I honestly think that we're just gonna keep mounting pressure

1484
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: and mounting pressure. And you know, I'm a little piste

1485
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: off of people like Ron Johnson. Oh, let's just move

1486
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: on to the economy. No, you don't get to move

1487
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: on to the economy that quickly, you don't. You gotta

1488
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: finish your work here. And you know, this is what

1489
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: really ticks me off, you know about people like Susan

1490
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: Collins and Rob Portman and Lisa Murkowski and Compito. All

1491
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: these people, repeal, repeal, repeal, repeal, they're all on tape, repeal, repeal, repeal,

1492
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: and then they don't get it done. Now they're not

1493
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: what we're willing to do, what they said they were

1494
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: going to do, and exactly, you know, that's that's that's

1495
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: that's the betrayal I'm talking about, even if it's just

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01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: for them, they also they were going to do it,

1497
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: and now they're not. No, Well, are we supposed to

1498
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: believe them anymore? No? Well, you know, and that's why

1499
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: we're trying to hold these people accountable and hold them

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01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: to their word. That means that every other Senator, every

1501
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 1: other Congressman that's willing to vote for repeal and fulfill

1502
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: their promise, they're being held hostage by four people that

1503
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: have changed their position. I mean seriously, I mean, you

1504
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: really can't blame anybody else but these four. Murkowski, Shelley Moore, Corpito,

1505
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: Rob Portman, and Susan Collins. They all, as I've been playing,

1506
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: they all said repeal Obamacare. They've all said it. They've

1507
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: said it repeatedly. They said it again and again. Later

1508
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 1: this week, the Senate will consider a bill to repeal Obamacare,

1509
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: a costly disaster that four years later, six five years later,

1510
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: we see has cost countless people access to their doctor,

1511
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: access to their healthcare plan of their choice, and the

1512
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: thousands of West Virginians from my state who have lost

1513
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: or had to change their coverage. We ought to ask

1514
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: individuals and families whose premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed, and

1515
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: the small businesses who have been forced to cut hours

1516
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: and employees. Americans deserve a healthcare system that works for them,

1517
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: and we know that Obamacare is not it. There is

1518
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: a better way. I want to share with you today

1519
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: where I am at on healthcare reform. First off, I

1520
01:24:53,840 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: remain committed to repealing the Affordable Care Act. In in Alaska,

1521
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: we are down to one provider in the individual market.

1522
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: The state has been forced to spend its extremely limited

1523
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: general fund dollars to stabilize that market, even as our

1524
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: premiums are are still rising. So you've got rising premiums.

1525
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: We've spent a lot of the state to attempt to

1526
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: stabilize and and we we have just one provider on

1527
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: the individual market today here in the United States Senate,

1528
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: and tomorrow as we debate this and vote on it,

1529
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: We've got a chance to move the ball forward and

1530
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: show people that at least a majority here in the

1531
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: United States Congress agree we have to address this issue. Uh.

1532
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: This vote will show that there are some here in

1533
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Congress who are listening and have some answers. Our job

1534
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: is to do what's right, and that's the past this

1535
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 1: legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare to give us a

1536
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: chance to get rid of some of the most detrimental

1537
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: aspects of it that are maating jobs, that are pushing

1538
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: healthcare costs higher and higher. One of the major reasons

1539
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: that I strongly opposed the Affordable Healthcare Act was that

1540
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: there was nothing affordable about it. I predicted it would

1541
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: lead to fewer choices and higher insurance costs for middle

1542
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: income families and small businesses. Congress must work together to

1543
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: address the very real healthcare concerns of the American people

1544
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: and the budget realities we face. Repealing Obamacare is poorly

1545
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: crafted and misguided mandates, and replacing the law with a

1546
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: fiscally responsible reform bill that contains costs and provides more

1547
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,839
Speaker 1: choices is the best path forward. Thank you, Mr President,

1548
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: and every other Senator and Congressman that made the promise,

1549
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: and now they're not willing to do what they can do.

1550
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: The only thing I can say is call them all

1551
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: them and tell them to keep your promise to the

1552
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: American people and stand up for what you said you

1553
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: were going to do. Well, I can't change my mind. Well,

1554
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: I think we need the replacement. Now, that's not what

1555
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: they all said. You get, you have a perfect transition.

1556
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: You have two years that gives you time to actually

1557
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 1: do something right, and you've got plenty of warning. Altho,

1558
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 1: they'll end up waiting til the last minute anyway, you know,

1559
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: or mcausey is gonna demand some type of you know,

1560
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: quid pro quo, holding everybody a bridge to nowhere of

1561
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: some kind. Anyway, it's frustrating, It really is frustrated. Let's

1562
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: go all right, here's a liberal Tracy Katie Texas Katie Is.

1563
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Tracy is happy that health care has failed, aren't you?

1564
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: You're very happy about that. No, I'm not happy that

1565
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: it fails so much, Sewan, I'm looking at the fakeness

1566
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: of the party. Look, for all these years it's been posturing,

1567
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: and all it did was postage just so it can

1568
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: get elected. If anybody knows the true origin of the

1569
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: health care. They know it came from the Heritage Foundation.

1570
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: They know that mid Romney actually implemented in Massachusetts. And

1571
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 1: you know, I realized what was so cold. Mitt Romney

1572
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: could have actually stole the election from Obama if Mitch McConnell,

1573
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,879
Speaker 1: who should be fired, didn't posture and make Mitch McConnell

1574
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: go against Obama. I'm gonna show you something. Romney could

1575
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: have stole the election from Obama simply saying this, ladies

1576
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Obama implemented the healthcare improperly in law. I

1577
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: did it in Massachusetts, and I can do it better

1578
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: job than Obama. This is when the rollout was really bad.

1579
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: But all they did was positive for the Republicans to

1580
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: get the votes. And I'm gonna agree with part of

1581
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I'm not gonna disagree with you,

1582
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: all right, but I'm not I'm not disagreeing that these

1583
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: were show votes. I'm not disagreeing that these people had

1584
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: no intention to keep in their words. It was evident

1585
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: to people like me, you know, back when they wouldn't

1586
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: use their the constitutional authority and the power of the purse.

1587
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: It was obvious to me. It really was so I

1588
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: knew back then, and this audience knew back then. But

1589
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: with that said, if you can't get the full loaf,

1590
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: you gotta take three quarters. If you can't get three quarters,

1591
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: you take two thirds. But Sean, let me say this.

1592
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that gives me the most. Right now,

1593
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm listening to the Republicans crying, you know what, the

1594
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: Democrats will help us, all right, But here's the problem

1595
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: with your argument, Tracy. Because your side gave us keep

1596
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: your doctor, keep your plan. On average, the average family

1597
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: saves a year. You're the one that said, oh, we'll

1598
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: have choices and options. You're the one that said, okay,

1599
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: so we have millions lose their doctors, millions lose their care,

1600
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: millions more that only have one option, excuse me, and

1601
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: on average of six to eight thousand dollar increase per family,

1602
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: and nobody saved any money. And then you had young

1603
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:49,560
Speaker 1: people forced to subsidize the the the poor, the uninsured,

1604
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: the elderly, and the sick. So I really don't want

1605
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: to hear that you have the answers either. But with

1606
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: that said, the answer is in the free market. You know.

1607
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: The answer is things like what I have been telling

1608
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: in this audience about since twelve, and that's healthcare cooperatives

1609
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and has the word cooperative in it. Do you think

1610
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: liberals would love it? Fifty bucks a month, unlimited care,

1611
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: concierge care for the average American. They deserve it. And

1612
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: you have a doctor on call seven, and you have

1613
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: a percent discount on on drugs and pharmaceuticals, and you

1614
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: get stitches and broken bones taken care of and all

1615
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: your care. And then you couple it with a catastrophic plan,

1616
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: which is relatively inexpensive based on the amount of deductible

1617
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: you're willing to pay. And then when you have that,

1618
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: you're fully covered if you get cancer, have a heart attack,

1619
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: or a bad accident. None of this is that hard.

1620
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: What bothers me is they can't. These people frustrate me.

1621
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, put them in a room, take away

1622
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: their air conditioners, put in fans, sending water, coke, Pepsi, sprite, whatever, pizza,

1623
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Wendy's. You know what. No no fair

1624
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: from the Senate dining room, no barbershops, no workout rooms.

1625
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Go do your job, no vacations and get it done.

1626
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I've been here just six months. I'm ready to act.

1627
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 1: I have pen in hand. To believe me, I'm sitting

1628
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: in that office. I have pen in hand. You never

1629
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: had that before. You know, for seven years, you had

1630
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: an easy route, will repeal, will replace, and he's never

1631
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna sign it. But I'm signing it. So it's a

1632
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: little bit different. But I'm ready to act. For seven years,

1633
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you promised the American people that you would repeal Obamacare.

1634
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,919
Speaker 1: People are hurting. In action is not an option. And frankly,

1635
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we should leave town unless we have

1636
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: a health insurance plan, unless we can give our people

1637
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: great healthcare. So my message today is really simple. We

1638
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: have to stay here. We shouldn't leave town, and we

1639
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: should hammer this out and get it done, and not

1640
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: just to repeal. I think the people of this country

1641
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: need more than a repeal. They need a repeal and

1642
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: a replace. We can repeal, but we should repeal and replace.

1643
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: And we shouldn't leave town until this is complete, Until

1644
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: this bill is on desk, and until we all go

1645
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: over to the Oval office. I'll sign it and we

1646
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: can celebrate for the American people and for all these

1647
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: people like Murkowski and and and Portman and Collins I'm

1648
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: just sick of these people, every one of them. It's

1649
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: such a disappointment. The whole country now sitting. You know,

1650
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: the President makes a promise, he's sitting on it. You know,

1651
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: every Republican that made a promise to repeal, they're all

1652
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: now sitting on their hands because of four people that

1653
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: can't keep their word. It's despicable to me. I don't know.

1654
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,879
Speaker 1: You make it, you make a promise, you keep your promise,

1655
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 1: and they haven't done it. But the best thing we

1656
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: need to do is get rid of this monstrosity in

1657
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: this disaster which is Obamacare. Anyway, one Shawn told free

1658
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: telephone number. You want to be a part of this extravaganza.

1659
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's say, Hia do Ben is in Montana? Ben? Hi,

1660
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Hey son? Thank you

1661
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: very much for taking my call to stake. You know,

1662
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I've been listening to your show and many others this

1663
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: whole period, with this whole conversations thing going on. The

1664
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: thing that keeps nagging at me, why aren't they talking

1665
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: about the cost of health care? Why aren't they getting

1666
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: into the nuts and bolts? Ted CRUs came up with

1667
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: a proposal to do that. Yeah, yeah, hello, can hear me? Yeah,

1668
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 1: go ahead? Yeah. Um. So the thing that's been bothering

1669
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: about this whole conversation, why aren't they getting into the

1670
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: nuts and bolts about the cost of health care. It's

1671
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: a difficult issue, it's a complicated issue, but they're treating

1672
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: it as a simple, black and white matter of how

1673
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: to pay for it, which doesn't seem to address any

1674
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: of the actual reasons why we're in this position. You know,

1675
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: if I can see the reasons why these Republicans are

1676
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 1: backing off of it, because a lot of the echoes

1677
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: of what everybody promised was a repeal and replaced, and

1678
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: you don't the last thing I think that anybody wants

1679
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 1: to do is to make a move that's just gonna

1680
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: totally break down the entire system in the first place,

1681
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: since that's basically where we're at right now. What's missing

1682
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: is the free market, you know, and this is the

1683
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: beauty of the cooperatives and health savings accounts. That's the

1684
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: beuty of portability, that's the beauty of competition. You have well,

1685
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, you have trillions of healthcare dollars, and the

1686
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: American people are smart, instinctively It's like buying a car.

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Speaker 1: You know, most people now have figured out car dealerships

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Speaker 1: and pretty much you know the price of the car

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Speaker 1: before you ever walk in the dealer, and the dealers

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Speaker 1: know that everybody knows. And similarly, if, if if people

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Speaker 1: are given the choice and the option of healthcare plans,

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Speaker 1: they're going to go for the plan that's inexpensive, that

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Speaker 1: offers the most care for the least amount of money,

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Speaker 1: and those companies that offer it are going to be

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Speaker 1: the companies that benefit in the companies that make a

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Speaker 1: profit in the companies that have more customers. Perhaps And

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Speaker 1: I like that you just said profit, because that's really

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Speaker 1: the point on this. I think that to some degree

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Speaker 1: we can understand that there's going to be a population

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Speaker 1: of healthcare consumers that need more help than others, and

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at it from a profit standpoint, you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to draw a line somewhere. As a

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Speaker 1: brief example, the only reason, for example, that my wife

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Speaker 1: can afford the medication that she's on right now is

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Speaker 1: because of the health of the Medicaid expansion here in Montana.

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Speaker 1: Now I can see easily going off the roles for

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Speaker 1: that which I understand and there's we can make, we

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Speaker 1: can work through and make two. But there are certainly

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Speaker 1: other customers who aren't going to be in that position

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Speaker 1: at all. And I think that the fear is is listen,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta understand if you're a doctor, imagine for

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Speaker 1: a second, you're the doctor. Okay, you're the guy that

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Speaker 1: spends four years in college, three or four years of

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Speaker 1: medical school. You are for next to nothing, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing a residency in an internship, and then you finally

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Speaker 1: have to you know, work in a practice and turn

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Speaker 1: the lights on and rent or buy a building. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: you know it's then then that's what I mean, because

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Speaker 1: you've got these guys trying to navigate the health care

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Speaker 1: the health care industry themselves and provide good services to people.

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Speaker 1: And they're in an industry which is just tapping every

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Speaker 1: person in it, both the providers and the customers, for

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Speaker 1: every dollar that they have within reason. But those losses

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Speaker 1: are are there, and we've we've even see the benefits

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Speaker 1: going to these insurance providers and they have to make

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Speaker 1: their margins too. But it's like every everywhere you look

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Speaker 1: in the system, there's a hard I got a break,

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Speaker 1: but no problem all I appreciate your your word. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap things up with today. Letting out your

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Speaker 1: heart troubled Tannity tonight ten eastern. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do. Rather than be angry, I'm gonna give all

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Speaker 1: the answers to the Republicans on healthcare because we've discussed

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Speaker 1: them and if they follow our plan, we can help

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Speaker 1: the American people, all right, So we're gonna help him out.

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Speaker 1: Kelly and Conway will also react to that also, Dr

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Speaker 1: Sebastian Gorka and media freaking out over Oh the big

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Speaker 1: dinner that Merkel had and Trump talked to Putin and

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Speaker 1: I got a mini monologue on Hollywood hate and Rosie

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell and Lou Dobbs tonight ten eastern on the Fox

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Speaker 1: News Channel. Set your DVR and we'll be back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. O