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Speaker 3: This one just.

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Speaker 2: that be for you. And Isaac lohen Krown a little

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Speaker 2: got some reach. He's a bit taller, so that'll be

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Speaker 2: a fair fight.

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Speaker 2: We've got Chris making a sound so pretty. We got

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Speaker 2: f one from Monaco. We just saw an interview with

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Speaker 2: Michael Douglas. Always good to see the luminaries out and

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Speaker 2: about getting there. And my daughter ahead of a soccer

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Speaker 2: game will no doubt be watching that. So not a

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Speaker 2: bad pregame ritual as it were, or maybe just watching

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Speaker 2: a bunch of NBA highlights and watching Al Horford once

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Speaker 2: again rain three point shots and then Drew Holliday comes

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Speaker 2: up big when it matters most, and we start here

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Speaker 2: another eighteen point lead lost, Ryan Hollins, I know the

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Speaker 2: three point shot and everything we've talked about, but mentally,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you respond after a game like that.

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Speaker 2: The old hey, we'll just flush it and move on

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Speaker 2: is a difficult proposition, obviously, with the Pacers trying to

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Speaker 2: do something now that no team has ever done, and

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Speaker 2: we don't know that Halliburton would come back no matter

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Speaker 2: how far they extend this series. But another game that

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Speaker 2: got away, that's two out of three. You had them,

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Speaker 2: you knew who they were, and you let them off

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Speaker 2: the hook. And now the Celtics have a three zero lead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely backbreaking, and that's pretty much the series.

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Speaker 4: I think that they'll come out and get that. Indiana

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Speaker 4: will get that last game at home. They'll play hard,

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Speaker 4: they'll be spirited, they'll know there's nothing to hang their

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Speaker 4: hat on, hang their head on. But I mean, you

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Speaker 4: play great even without Halliburton, and you have some great

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Speaker 4: performances and you just come up short. And when those

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Speaker 4: three to zero is pretty much impossible. You already up

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Speaker 4: against it, and that was the make or break game

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Speaker 4: but to finish, and for Indiana they're far. I had

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Speaker 4: a schedule and unfortunately we know, like you mentioned Halliburton missing.

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Speaker 4: But when you blow that type of lead man, because

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Speaker 4: here's the thing about the Celtics that we've seen also,

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Speaker 4: they're up and down. So when they have their down games,

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Speaker 4: you have to capitalize, and they were not able to capitalize,

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Speaker 4: and those are the moments where you gotta finish, you

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Speaker 4: gotta come home with the victor.

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Speaker 3: Well, we talked about it during the week.

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Speaker 2: You joined Jason Smith and I in the evening and

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the game one collapse and decisions made,

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Speaker 2: decisions terribly made in a lot of circumstance in ten

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Speaker 2: seconds that will live in infamy there in Indiana, no

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Speaker 2: question about it. The choice not to call a time

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Speaker 2: out from Rick Carlisle and after the game immediately went

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Speaker 2: to the Yeah, in hindsight, should have taken the time out,

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Speaker 2: advanced the ball, given us a better opportunity. Instead of

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Speaker 2: having Siakam trying to battle back towards your own basket

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Speaker 2: yet another opportunity here with eight seconds left to call

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Speaker 2: a play to settle it down, and once again they

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Speaker 2: into play and Holiday comes up with a big steal.

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Speaker 2: So lessons not learn stubbornness coaching decision thinking you've got

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Speaker 2: them on their heels. Watching that replay multiple times, I'm

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Speaker 2: just having flashbacks to all the things that went wrong

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Speaker 2: in game one and history repeating itself just several days later.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I have a different take on that.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame break. I don't And I understand why

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Speaker 4: he didn't take the time out because people have to understand.

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Speaker 4: For one, it's about knowing your players, your best guy.

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Speaker 4: Halliburton's not out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't there all game.

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Speaker 4: He was not. But here's the reason why I don't

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Speaker 4: blame him. The reason I don't blame him is because

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Speaker 4: it's not about just getting your offense set. You can

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Speaker 4: look back and say, oh, man, I should have called

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Speaker 4: that time out. The problem is in those situations they

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Speaker 4: get their defense set, and with their defense not set

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Speaker 4: in transition, sometimes it's the best chance to go. Here's

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Speaker 4: the thing about nim Hart. He has drawn that foul

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Speaker 4: several times and at first glance you think it's a foul.

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Speaker 4: When you go back and look, it's one of the

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Speaker 4: great Listen, we always give the referees a bunch of

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Speaker 4: you know, mess right, and you know, don't agree with

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Speaker 4: them all those things. That was a heck of a

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Speaker 4: no call from the referees because when you went back

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Speaker 4: and you go back and look, true, holiday, man, he

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Speaker 4: makes an unbelievable play on the ball, Like like the

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Speaker 4: defensive play that he made was I don't know too

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Speaker 4: many guys who could actually make that play. It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: I mean he slid his feet, kept his hands high

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Speaker 4: and it was man, it was a legitimate no call.

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Speaker 4: I mean that play that he made was literally unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Well, if nothing else, we would have done, you know,

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Speaker 2: another fifteen reviews. Yeah, but and then since we didn't

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Speaker 2: call the fall like with the Kyrie, you get deeper

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Speaker 2: into that in a minute. No, I agree with you, no,

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Speaker 2: but I mean it moves so fast. And that's the thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, when we pull it back, it's it's always

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Speaker 2: the all right, we have to be cognizant of the

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Speaker 2: fact that these guys have to try to do it

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Speaker 2: live with a bunch of six ten seven guys in

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Speaker 3: Did he get a body? Did he get you know,

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Speaker 3: a piece of the hand?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: You have the take fall at the end, you know,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of debate, well did he did he not?

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Speaker 2: What's the spirit of that rule versus how we actually

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Speaker 2: adjudicate it on a game to game basis, Right, is

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Speaker 2: it really a clear path? Do you have to do

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Speaker 2: something more egregious then reach out and grab the guy,

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Speaker 2: you know, unlike Rudy Gobert punching Luca in the gut

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Speaker 3: That's job Rudy.

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Speaker 2: But it's the and for Nemhart, obviously, the the easy

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Speaker 2: jokes came out of yesterday's game is that he did

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Speaker 2: a lot of the great things that Haliburton would normally do,

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Speaker 3: It's a cruel world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a crul world.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: The parallels were there, but you know, you tell me,

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Speaker 2: you get you know, thirty two out of him and

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Speaker 2: then twenty three from McConnell off the bench, and they're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: you know that's that's more production than you could possibly

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Speaker 2: ever ponder there. I do like the fact that Doug

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Speaker 2: McDermott got four minutes in the game as well, so

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Speaker 2: Mick buckets still getting out there one to one from

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Speaker 2: the field. But you know, another one of those just

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Speaker 2: great efforts. And we talked about it going into the series.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of the the yellow Brick Road as

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Speaker 2: it was for the the Boston Celtics in their path

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Speaker 2: with the number of stars missing.

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Speaker 3: Now it lines up.

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Speaker 2: Halliburton's not there, and you know he's got had some

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Speaker 2: growing pains in some of these games, but overall, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you see how good he is gamed to game and

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Speaker 2: how much he's grown and what he's got for Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 3: And two of these three games the.

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Speaker 2: Celtics gave them opportunities to go and take it and

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Speaker 2: instead now we're right at the Emerald City for one

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Speaker 2: more game to finish this off. I like the Rick

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Speaker 2: Carlile quote, We'll gave it up in a little while,

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Speaker 2: because I mean he was testy, he ran that football

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Speaker 2: play at the end and got mad at reporters and

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Speaker 2: whatever else. It's like, no, that's fine, that's all fine

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Speaker 2: and good Ryan, But you know, to have two games

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Speaker 2: took it right, it's it's you'd got to decide which

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Speaker 2: path you're going down the glass half empty, which is

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Speaker 2: sometimes more fun because our teams aren't playing it's misery

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Speaker 2: loves company, or do you say, well, we're going to

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Speaker 2: just stalk you down bit by bit. That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: Boston's done in two of these games. And down eighteen yesterday,

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Speaker 2: down nine going into the fourth quarter, and then you

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Speaker 2: just see the heroics. No matter how poorly they had

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Speaker 2: shot from three for a long stretch at the time,

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Speaker 2: they still finish sixteen for forty six from the game.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five percent isn't overwhelming, but they hit them when

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Speaker 2: it mattered.

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Speaker 4: No, they did. And you know, for Boston again, you know,

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Speaker 4: they've got to find a way to not be so

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Speaker 4: up and down, and you got to be fearful because

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Speaker 4: they through reality. If that's not if Indiana is not

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Speaker 4: as young as they are, they're cooked man like like like,

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Speaker 4: the Celtics are not going to be champs if they

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Speaker 4: play like that, if they have those type of performances,

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Speaker 4: they are not gonna be what they want to be.

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Speaker 4: If you do that, you know against the Dallas Mavericks,

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Speaker 4: per se, you ain't coming back from down twenty. You know,

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Speaker 4: you do that against the Minnesota Timberwolves, they're not gonna

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Speaker 4: blow that type of lead. You gotta take advantage. And

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Speaker 4: you're looking at the Celtics, And here's the truth. They

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Speaker 4: would be down what to one right now if they

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Speaker 4: don't expections of a game. The Celtics would be down

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Speaker 4: to one if they were playing a better team. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Indiana's not that Indiana's a really

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Speaker 4: good team, okay, make no mistake, but they would be

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Speaker 4: down okay, and and and that's the truth of the matter.

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Speaker 4: So the Celtics have to kind of figure things out.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you can say

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Speaker 4: the life. And that situation, and you know you may

433
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 4: have a chance to go and get that.

434
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: Game, try to get off to the big start once again,

435
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: and then see if you can hold the reins and

436
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: get you across the finish line. Yeah, race, come on now,

437
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: let's finish.

438
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: And you know, if you're Rick Carlisle, you know your

439
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: speeches that I played for Rick again said earlier, your

440
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: speech in there is that why not? Why can't it

441
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 4: be us? Let's let's go make history. We're gonna do it,

442
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 4: one possession at a time, one game at a time.

443
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 4: We've shown that there we're the better team and we

444
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 4: just haven't played like it. Let's go put things together.

445
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: They're not who we are and let let's win. They're

446
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: not interested. Make them take it serious. And here's the thing, man,

447
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 4: whatever Rick has been doing in that locker room, man,

448
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: it's been spectacular because Indiana, if anything, Man, they're tough

449
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 4: as nows. They believe they're fighting there. Man, there's a

450
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: lot of grit and I just think that, you know,

451
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: this is a team that went out and played in

452
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: the Bubble. I don't know, I want want to call

453
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: it the Bubble Championship, the playing tournament, you know, I

454
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 4: said Oh, it's the playing tournament. Nobody wants to show up. Well, hey,

455
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: they're in the Eastern Conference finals, and I think it's

456
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: about time we start giving this team a lot more

457
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 4: respect than they deserve. And I think they showed it.

458
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 4: So I don't want to jump jump on them because

459
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: they're overachieving right now. But at the end of the day, man,

460
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: you got to give a lot of respect to what

461
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: the Pacers are doing.

462
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sometimes the path just opens up for you,

463
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: right Injuries happen, and you and I were talking about

464
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: it last week. It's the resounding theme of the playoffs,

465
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: the number of guys and guys that we would call

466
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: stars or superstars that have missed significant amounts time. And

467
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: sometimes you're on the positive side of that, and you

468
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: don't you shouldn't apologize for it. Right the basketball God's

469
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: done shown on you for a spell, and certainly in

470
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference, it was the expectation that the Celtics

471
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: would walk pretty easily towards the NBA Finals. If you

472
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: can give them a hiccup along the way and a

473
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: couple of scares, I mean, you've done your job and

474
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: then you build from there. But here's the end of

475
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle. I referenced this a couple of times. I

476
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: just love this final quote after he got fiery when

477
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: they were asking about the football inbounds play and where

478
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: that was. He got mad at the reporters like, you want.

479
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Speaker 3: Me to just give you the playbook? You want to

480
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Speaker 3: be just get into that, and then he finished.

481
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Speaker 4: With this, we got another game in front of them

482
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Speaker 4: to go after these guys. And believe me when I

483
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: tell you we are going after them.

484
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Speaker 2: We're coming for you. That's like a guy and I,

485
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: you know Mel Gibson going back to ransom, get it

486
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Speaker 2: back by Son.

487
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Speaker 3: We're coming for you.

488
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: We got one more game. We're not letting you off.

489
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Speaker 3: Fuck.

490
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got fired up talking about the greatest fans,

491
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Speaker 2: the greatest arena, the field house. Heard some discussions about

492
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: fieldhouses and stuff got a little weird and sideways at times,

493
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: but just the idea, Yeah, you've got a great fan

494
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: base that you want to show out for. They've shown

495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: you great support, so the fact that you draw them in,

496
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, we love you fans. In other words,

497
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: if we get swept, don't turn on us.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he gets it, and it's about their fans, man,

499
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Speaker 4: But I can't remember the last time, Man, Indiana's been

500
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 4: rocking like that. And you know that is that is

501
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: a they love basketball Indiana though. That is like basketball,

502
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: like basketball is life over there. So they're they're behind

503
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: their Pacers, man, there's no question there. And you know

504
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: Rick is trying to rally the troops man, and and

505
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: again he's done a heck of a job this season

506
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Speaker 4: with the Pacers, So I get it, Man, I get it.

507
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: There's a lot like like Mike, have you seen have

508
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: you when they pan through the crowd, like, I mean,

509
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: it is work going on over there. Man. The base was, Yeah,

510
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: they're going, They're going at it, and you know they'll

511
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: be ready. And man, I'm telling you, you know you

512
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: can even attribute was it eighteen or twenty points they

513
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 4: were up? That was the fans. That was the fans.

514
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: And they're gonna come back with that same life. And Man,

515
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 4: Indiana and some of these these these these new blood teams, Man,

516
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: look at them, Look the Mavericks. Look at the excitement

517
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: over there. Look at Oklahoma City. How they were rocking. Man,

518
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: these fan bases have been starved for some playoff action

519
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: and they are showing out man, I think that's it's

520
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 4: not just the teams. It is understated that the crowds

521
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: and the fans that have been coming out. That's that's

522
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: the best part about this playoffs. Hey New York Goodness.

523
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: Activated right, activated after twenty five years?

524
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Jason right screaming out during a segment.

525
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was something I want.

526
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: Yelp Well was a screamer like Yelp.

527
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: Was running down the hallway. It was that was embarrassing.

528
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: I was buught a hamstring.

529
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: I mean, look, but he almost blew out my ear

530
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: drum like I never experienced anything that loud and for him,

531
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: and it's it's a running joke on the show. I

532
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: do seven to eleven weeknights Pacific time with Jason Smith here.

533
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

534
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: And you know one of the things that I always

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: say in this business, Uh, you became a fan and

536
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: you wanted to get into this business because you were

537
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: a fan. So when you're in this business, you can

538
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: tell me too you're blue in the face. No, no, no,

539
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: I'm a journalist. I don't I know root for teams.

540
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: I say you're a liar and that you're a good

541
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: actor for your three hours or four hours or whatever

542
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: you're doing TV and radio every game. You have a player,

543
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: you have a coach, you have a team with which

544
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: you still have a strong affinity. Jason wears it honestly. Look,

545
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm a Chicago guy. I got a Bears jacket sitting

546
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: next to me, and the White Sox right now infuriate

547
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: me every day to keep me going right, It's what

548
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: as a fan you do. But for Jason and his

549
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Nicks and the run they were on as improbable as

550
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: it may have been a time, because it was the

551
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: old Monty Python sketch right where you got the Knight

552
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: who's having limbs hacked off and he's still calling, Ah,

553
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: you coward, you check in, Come on, still fight me.

554
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: I mean that was the Knicks at the end, including

555
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson finishing with a broken hand. Wish that on nobody.

556
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: But obviously, when we talk about the you know, Shakespearean

557
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: tragedy that became the end of their year with the

558
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: number of walking wounded, it was only appropriate that that's

559
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: that was how it ended. But you just saw all

560
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: the as we called them, the classic Knicks all out

561
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: there right, the guys from twenty five thirty years ago,

562
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: the names, the basketball cards you collected, the guys you

563
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: hated because they were beating up on Michael Jordan or whatever,

564
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: and that plays rocking was fantastic. All of the new

565
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: blood and new teams in the playoffs. Ryan, I agree

566
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent. This is the best thing

567
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: the NBA could have hoped for. Right, Maybe some new

568
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: stars emerged and you get some storylines that get a

569
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: little bit untoorn and out of whack, and because we

570
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: like hyperbole, suddenly Anthony Edwards is Michael Jordan and all

571
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: of those things, because you know, we need the best

572
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: hot take and someone's got to fit the suit. But

573
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: what it does is teams that haven't been in it

574
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: for a while. Hey, guess what now you got maybe

575
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: a new little generation of fans, right, the dads, the grandpas,

576
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: the uncles, the aunts, moms, whoever. That's getting the kid

577
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: in front of a TV to watch a team that's

578
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: relevant again for the first time in forever, and you

579
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: can throw back to when they were good once upon

580
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: a time and where your fandom started.

581
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right about that, man, And again you're right,

582
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: you know, and for us absolutely, you know, fans of

583
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: the game and that's where it started. That's what it

584
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: you know, what it's about. So man, that the excitement

585
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: is absolutely there. Look, there's no question with that.

586
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that promo that we have with Smith screaming, though

587
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: I think they they actually edited the audio to take

588
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: his decibels down because it may hurt your ears.

589
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: That may not be FCC compliant.

590
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: The level high level at which he screamed like a

591
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: lunatic on a big three point shot.

592
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: So you do call it a screaming, not a yelp.

593
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: It was a scream.

594
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's because it went on for a long time.

595
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's truncated for a promo. The thing

596
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: that you hear across Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app

597
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: et cetera. One of the sound bites, you know, teasing

598
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: our show is is Jason scream right talking about the

599
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: glory of the playoffs. And that's what we try to

600
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: encapsulate here, right, you know, guys behind the glass, we

601
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: all have our affinities, right, Ian Roddy's gonna be ready

602
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: for Jets and so he and Jason are gonna be

603
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 2: insufferable talking together. Chris Purfett does work and has been

604
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: working on Detroit Lions stuff, Detroit football, European soccer, all

605
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: of that stuff at Chris Prefet where you find him there,

606
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's it's passion that drives us here.

607
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Ilo works, you know, for the angel City FC squad,

608
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: as well as the Los Angeles Chargers, who are ushering

609
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: in a new era with Harbaugh.

610
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: Me.

611
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm just a dope, wishing, wanting, hoping that my Chicago

612
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: teams actually make it beyond a month before I'm going,

613
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: all right.

614
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: What's next?

615
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: Hopeful with your quarterbacks?

616
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot to talk about.

617
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm a little afraid that the situation has been overweighted

618
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: by people jumping on said bandwagon. But it's been empty

619
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: a while, so that's a good thing. I mentioned Isaac

620
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: lowancrod it I would be remiss if I didn't turn

621
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: the microphone over to him giants stick microphone, like he

622
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: would Drew Carret to lead us through what's trending in

623
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Speaker 2: our sporting.

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Speaker 9: Universe among the things trending and good morning Fellas a

625
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 9: wild wild NFL off season story. We'll get to that

626
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 9: in a moment, but up first, indeed, Game three of

627
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 9: the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals Saturday, night saw the Boston

628
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 9: Celtics rally from eighteen down with five forty eight left

629
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 9: in the third to win at Indiana one, fourteen to one,

630
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 9: eleven for a three games to none lead. Drew holiday

631
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Speaker 9: to go, had three point play with thirty eight seconds

632
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 9: to go, and then the clinching steel and free throws

633
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 9: in the final seconds. In Game two of the NHL's

634
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 9: Western Conference Final Saturday night, the Dallas Stars defeated the

635
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 9: Edmonton Oilers three to one. That series tied at one.

636
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 9: Baseball Saturday night, Yankees won at San Diego four to one.

637
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 9: They're on a four game winning streak. Aaron Judge has

638
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 9: homered in all four games. Cleveland defeated the Angels in

639
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 9: Anaheim four to three. Cleveland on an eight game winning streak.

640
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 9: Philly scored six in the top of the ninth Innington

641
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 9: win at Colorado eight to four, Diamondbacks over the Marlins

642
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 9: three to two.

643
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 10: Arizona has won eleven of eighteen.

644
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 9: Finally, the NFL offseason literally turned wild for Miami Dolphins

645
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 9: linebacker Jalen Phillips as he found a large iguana in

646
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 9: his toilets.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 9: Here's how it sounded on Instagram. Listen closely.

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Speaker 11: How the hell did he get in there? That man

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Speaker 11: is bathing in my toilet and he's not a pet.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where he came from.

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Speaker 5: It's a grown man.

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Speaker 11: I had to call the exterminator one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 11: dollars to get this man out of here. You must

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Speaker 11: be evicted, my friend, y'ren not in the right place.

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Speaker 11: I just want to know if he came up through

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Speaker 11: there like a ninja turtle, or if he was living

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Speaker 11: in the garage or something, because that's something I got

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Speaker 11: to think about. I don't know what's going on. The

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Speaker 11: bro's huge, rose massive.

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Speaker 4: He's right.

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Speaker 9: The iguana was the size of about approximately the width

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Speaker 9: of the toilet bowl. When asked for comment, the iguana

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Speaker 9: did not say anything back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: But he can't give away the secrets. He might have

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Speaker 2: been the Scout team. How about that?

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Speaker 12: Ryan?

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Speaker 3: Think about that under attack?

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Speaker 2: At Isaac Lohenkron where you find him updates says as

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Speaker 2: well as tidbits from his game, some of the great

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Speaker 2: calls that he does on radio for Angel City FC.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins Where you find

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Speaker 2: him find him at Ryan Hollinds on Instagram find me

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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome at on X and Instagram. Of course,

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Speaker 2: as we continue here on Fox Sports Radio, I want

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Speaker 2: to circle back. We talked about a file that was

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Speaker 2: a good no call in your estimation, Ryan Hollins one that, well,

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Speaker 2: should we maybe look at the rule book in the

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Speaker 2: off season, and I'm looking squarely at Kyrie Irving and

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Speaker 2: a big decision that had to be made in the

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Speaker 2: final minute of Game two of the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that next year on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday by Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins. Thanks for hanging out

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Speaker 2: with us this holiday weekend. The crew we got Chris

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Speaker 2: and Ian and and our gout Isaac on the updates

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Speaker 2: much appreciated giving us a little bit of your time

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Speaker 2: on the highways and byways and the ins and outs

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Speaker 2: of your lives.

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Speaker 3: It certainly is not unnoticed. However, you get us.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts will go up when we're done. You can get

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Speaker 2: it wherever you download your podcast. Looks for Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Weekends and then Fox Sports Sunday. Hollands and Harmon it'll

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Speaker 2: be there for you shortly after the show ends today.

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Speaker 2: And Ryan, we're talking a little bit earlier of you

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Speaker 2: know those bang bang plays and momentary reviews, the decision

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Speaker 2: making that the referees have to make, and there was

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Speaker 2: one in the Western Conference. I wanted to get your

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Speaker 2: opinion on as a man playing in the league, and

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Speaker 2: the you know, all those instances of did I get him,

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Speaker 2: did I not? And now we have our challenge system,

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Speaker 2: which again I still have a problem with the fact

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Speaker 2: that I can get to two challenges, right, showing that

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Speaker 2: you made two mistakes, but then I'm of challenges. If

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Speaker 2: I showed you that you got too wrong, I should

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Speaker 2: be able to show you got a third. Sorry, just

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Speaker 2: pointing out the obvious. I showed you your your fails,

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Speaker 2: and if I'm wrong, then take them away. I'm done.

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: But if i'm I should be able to press my luck,

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Speaker 2: as it were, continue to double down. But we did

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Speaker 2: have the postgame review on the play where McDaniels on

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Speaker 2: a review in the final forty seven second tryan ball

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Speaker 2: rule out of bounds. The call gets overturned and Dallas

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Speaker 2: gets the ball, but it's pretty clear that Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 2: never actually touches the ball to force anything but a

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Speaker 2: slap on McDaniel's arm. But because of the way the

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: NBA rules are, you cannot adjudicate a fall even as

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Speaker 2: you review that play. Is that correct? Should that be

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Speaker 2: the way this rule, this rule is interpreted, or should

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Speaker 2: we perhaps expand it to say, Hey, now we're looking

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Speaker 2: at the play. You opened up the can of worms.

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Speaker 2: Discovery is now in the opportunity here. Didn't settle.

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Speaker 4: No, it's one hundred percent wrong, and it's something that

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Speaker 4: I've I've really challenged all year long, literally and because

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Speaker 4: you see the play, it'll go hold on. The reason

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Speaker 4: this happened is because he got fouled. This is the

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Speaker 4: reason this happened because he got pushed. Now, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: the reason the NBA is the greatest league on earth

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Speaker 4: is why they make the common sense plays. They will

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Speaker 4: go in and review and assess and say, you know what,

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Speaker 4: let's fix this because we'd rather be We want to

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Speaker 4: get it right than be right. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that makes sense. Everything get it right, then be right, And.

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Speaker 2: That's the point. Right It is like if it's wrong,

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Speaker 2: it's wrong. It's a fast paced game and you're going

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Speaker 2: to make mistakes. The human element is great, but if

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Speaker 2: you're going to use technology and enter into that space,

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Speaker 2: then yeah, the whole goal should be all right, we

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Speaker 2: have in you know, conclusive evidence that we got it wrong,

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Speaker 2: so fix it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, I strongly believe that the

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Speaker 4: league is going to do.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 4: I think that they're going to go in and they're

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Speaker 4: going to make the changes that allow you to be

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Speaker 4: able to, you know, for their officials at least to

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Speaker 4: come in and say we got it wrong or we

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Speaker 4: were looking at the wrong thing. Better yet, and you know,

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Speaker 4: we're going to fix it. So I think that's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. I think that's going to be a reality.

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Speaker 4: I truly do.

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Speaker 2: How many league officers do you, or I should say

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Speaker 2: team offices do you think when they get the note

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Speaker 2: of apology that they keep it.

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 2: Becauzzar bay In is postgame presser and you know, to

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Speaker 2: the pool report, I was like, yeah, we got it wrong,

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Speaker 2: but based on the rules, we can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 3: That's too bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I mean, how many of those that we

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Speaker 2: see over the course of the year, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: two minute report.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, the rules Committee comes together with the league, the

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Speaker 4: players and the coaches, and every year, you know, they

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Speaker 4: bring up the biggest concerns and I'm sure that this

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Speaker 4: is going to be one of those concerns and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know, we got to get this right, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you'd hate for it to come down. And unfortunately, this

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Speaker 4: is when it really changes, is a play like that

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Speaker 4: where Minnesota, if you're a Timberables fan, you're losing your

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Speaker 4: you're losing your marbles, you are absolutely losing it and

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Speaker 4: saying that wasn't fair. Uh, you know, we were cheated,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't right, whatever it is. We finally get here

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Speaker 4: and then this happens. You know, you're you're going wild.

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Speaker 4: So unfortunately for Minnesota fans, it does take an instance

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Speaker 4: like that for for change to it eventually happened.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you go back to, you know, fan bases

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Speaker 2: and well even Rick Carlisle remember in the round against

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Speaker 2: the Knicks talking about small market teams not getting their

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Speaker 2: fair shake, et cetera. I saw some great video where

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Speaker 2: people would put in a violin quartet behind him, which

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Speaker 2: is really good. Well, little string quartet to play a

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Speaker 2: sad songs as he had those those moments. But right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it usually takes something huge in on this

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Speaker 2: kind of stage to make change happen. Now, of course,

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Speaker 2: you can point to a number of other errors that

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Speaker 2: were made in those final minutes that would have changed

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Speaker 2: the outcome of the game. But you know what we

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Speaker 2: like to do. We like to magnify that one and

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Speaker 2: in this case, if it can make a rule change

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Speaker 2: that seems common sense happen, let's do it. He's Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike coming up next, super Agent. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. He went Shakespearean. Is it much

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Speaker 2: ado about nothing?

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: a moment based on the words of an NBA super agent.

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Speaker 2: But first I got to bring him in. My guy

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Speaker 2: ten years in the NBA working for the Planet Houston,

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Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets, Superman two reference for those that haven't

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Speaker 3: The blank stairs Here.

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Speaker 2: It's my guy, Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins where

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Speaker 2: you find him in the Twitter verse. Any big holiday

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00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: weekend plans here Ryan, other than hanging out and shooting

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Speaker 2: the breeze with me?

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Speaker 4: No, nothing yet, man, This this is the life right here.

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on?

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Speaker 2: Is the life bo bobo boy?

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Speaker 4: Do we have like album or like podcast art or

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Speaker 4: does it? Did they just write like Harmon and Hollins.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we could create some I mean, Ian

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Speaker 2: probably can start creating some crazy ass ai things for us.

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Speaker 4: Is like the step Brothers? Is that like played out

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Speaker 4: like everybody does step Brothers. It's kind of like the

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Speaker 4: you know, the go to.

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Speaker 3: What do you think Ian?

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Speaker 2: I mean you want you want to come up with

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Speaker 2: some kind of crazy name for the show?

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Speaker 4: Ryan?

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Speaker 1: You mean you want to make a little great apic

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Speaker 1: of the two of you as like a step Brothers.

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Speaker 2: Sweaters and we're staring blankly into the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's the step Brothers is the go to,

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Speaker 4: Like we gotta be we gotta be original.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. I'll make that happen.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it, Let's go, let's cook.

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Speaker 2: We could be the other guys, nice guys.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: We could just start going down, you know full uh,

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Speaker 2: we can go up and smoke. I don't smoke, but

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Speaker 2: you know there's a whole other demographic we can reach

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Speaker 2: if we go that way.

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Speaker 4: Oh God, what what what they just say that?

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Speaker 2: I just went for button movies and Chi Chi Chunk

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Speaker 2: showed up on my timeline. God, we can do I

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Speaker 2: love you man, where you know you could be rud

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Speaker 2: or I could be Segel. If I'm run, I'm slapping

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Speaker 2: the base. I mean, you know, there's so much we

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00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: can do. Rush Hour, are you Jackie Channer? I likes

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Speaker 2: I like Rush Shower, Shanghai Non there Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: we we just keep going down. I mean we need

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Speaker 2: to bring in a third member of the six man

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Speaker 2: tag team, like where the von Eriks are freebirds, and

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Speaker 2: then we can do the hangover.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we got everything. We can just keep

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00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: rolling it up. I mean there's tons sideways. We can

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Speaker 3: go to wine Country.

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Speaker 2: I'm a slightly better looking Paul Giamadi better actor, though

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00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: kicks my ass. Anyway, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.

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Speaker 2: I don't know me and Michelle's high school reunion. I mean,

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00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: we could just do buddy comedies till we're blue in

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Speaker 2: the face.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the Twitter folks should choose. You know, if anybody go.

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Speaker 2: At the Ryan Hollins at Swollen Dome, at Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio of course, where you find us as well, carry

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Speaker 3: There we go. He's Ryan. Oh it's up, Bike, Carmen,

876
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Speaker 3: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, a little

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00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: bit of left turn.

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00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 3: We'll see what kind of craziness.

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Speaker 4: Ian and the.

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Speaker 2: Twitter listeners and Chris and and I Loo. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he is working feverishly for the next twenty year in trouble. Man,

883
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Speaker 2: you're in trouble because it's gonna be something about your

884
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: food tastes or maybe you open the Pandora's box of

885
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: your musical taste at some point that he's just gonna

886
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: come back with the you know, the iron clawed.

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00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's I've never seen him. It's it's almost like

888
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: I think Isla might be a hater, you know, since

889
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: we've been doing the Sunday spot. He's just he just

890
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: turned on me and like he was never like this before.

891
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, he's like to get off my

892
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: yard type of guy.

893
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: I mean, looking for a little heat, right, it's a

894
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: heel turn.

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00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, look.

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Speaker 3: He's he's really got the furrow and brown. Now you're screwed.

897
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's never been like this to me,

898
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: like ever, Like I was, I'm shocked. It's a new territory.

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00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: Watch your back, man, Watch your back. Because as I

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Speaker 2: I logos here, as if I could speak as I logos,

901
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, the world does.

902
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: Because he'll get you. He'll get you. Yeah.

903
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: Now he's just nodding along. See Ilo, I thought you

904
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: were working up the big next act. Now that we

905
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: came up with Buddy Movies to try to you know,

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Speaker 2: use as an emblem for the show.

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Speaker 10: It's in development. It's in development.

908
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Let's like Holland, You're screwed, all right. So quote that

909
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: I saw last night Rich Paul, right, a man who

910
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: helps to orchestrate a lot of things in this league.

911
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: To deny his power, uh means you're just putting blinders

912
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: on uh and ignoring.

913
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: The NBA world.

914
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk about all NBA contracts and all of that

915
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: fun stuff. The union negotiated things that sometimes don't make

916
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: sense to me, So you'll have to explain it to me,

917
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: like I'm a five year old, right. Not the money,

918
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Not the dollars, i'd be grudge. No man is dollars.

919
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: It's the process as to how we determine these things

920
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: that leaves me wanting at times. But Rich Paul, you know,

921
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: doing some media rounds and he talked with Chris Haynes

922
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: and then he showed up, you know, as part of broadcast,

923
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 2: and he dropped this little nugget as they were talking

924
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: about the off season.

925
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Speaker 5: To come, Brown's a free agent.

926
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: You have to decide, and I got to focus.

927
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Speaker 5: On his business, and who should be flagued about his business.

928
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: And let the Lakers hire whoever they want to hire.

929
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: And he's always he's always showed up and played for

930
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Speaker 2: whatever coach is there.

931
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Speaker 5: You know, But yeah, I.

932
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Speaker 4: Hear you, Butmoni, and again I'm not you know, there's

933
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Speaker 4: no need to try to drive a specific larity or

934
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Speaker 4: try to dodge from Williams wild Is.

935
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Speaker 11: I think he's earned the right to have and put

936
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Speaker 11: if you wanted that obviously bends.

937
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Speaker 4: It's just not the cast spot.

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Speaker 5: Hold Baba is gonna come hold on by hold hold

939
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Speaker 5: on real quick. You said something rich.

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Speaker 13: You say Lebron's a free agent, So I take it

941
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Speaker 13: Lebron's wanted to climb that player option.

942
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Speaker 4: So you know you love business over.

943
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do.

944
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Speaker 5: We don't do what we do every year.

945
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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna evaluate the situation and we're gonna

946
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Speaker 2: make the best decision. That's a sound of a truck

947
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: backing up. But it is to me Shakespearean Ryan. And

948
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: what you do about nothing, Because yes, you're not picking

949
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: up the player option. You're negotiator opting out. You're negotiating

950
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: a longer term deal with some stipulations and whatever clout

951
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: you can exert on the squad. Now, that was part

952
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: of t n t's coverage, Vince Carter, Chris Haynes, Bamani Jones,

953
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: and Adam Lefko bringing you that, but you know, just

954
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: dropping it matter of factly. Hey, he's a free agent,

955
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: and they tried to walk it back. So you hear

956
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: you hear the truck like on your street way too

957
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: early when you're trying to sleep in a little bit.

958
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the garbage truck. Maybe it's somebody moving and

959
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: they decided that they needed to get going at four am.

960
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever the case may be. But but Ryan,

961
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: just the idea here. I always look one. I don't

962
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: believe the narrative that Lebron doesn't have his finger on

963
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: what's happening right the Adam Smith again, we're going all

964
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: sorts of high school learnings, the invisible hand of economics

965
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: in terms of the Lakers coach. I refuse to believe

966
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: for one minute that there's not a consult or. Let's

967
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: make sure we check with him that this is gonna

968
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: be cool and that he's ready to play for the guy. Yes,

969
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: he shows up and plays for the guy. We know

970
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: that right the legacy. It's history. It's not like he's

971
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: suddenly gonna go Derek Bell old school Pittsburgh Pirates reference

972
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: operations shut down at the end of a season or

973
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: at any point along the way. But when we look

974
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: at where we're at with what Rich Paul says here,

975
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just good business sense. He also added

976
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: in that that the Lakers would be wise to spend

977
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: more of their attention focusing on what it takes for

978
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: the long term success and retention of Anthony Davis.

979
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well they listen, Rich Paul Hall is sitting in

980
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 4: a very sweet spot. He's got Anthony Davis, He's got

981
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: Lebron James, and the challenge for the Lakers is saying

982
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 4: how much longer can he do this and at this

983
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: level and not just that. See, here's the thing. What

984
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: you got to understand about the business of basketball. All

985
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 4: the great players now, especially because Lebron, they understand their value.

986
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: So in understanding their value, they say, hey, I need

987
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: this coach, I need this situation. They have a lot

988
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 4: of input, They have a lot to say because they're

989
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: that important to the team in the organization. So in

990
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: terms you're not just getting Lebron the player who's going

991
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 4: to come to play. And Rich is absolutely spot on

992
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: with that. You take everything that it comes with. So

993
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: you don't just get Lebron, you get Rich, you get

994
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 4: mav you get the family, and now, right now, let's

995
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: be honest, you get Bronni too. Is that that bad

996
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: of a thing? No, the Lakers are still the talk

997
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: of the town. They make a lot of money, they're competitive.

998
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: The NBA's as competitive as ever. And the challenge is, hey,

999
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: get Lebron in ad set and then go out and

1000
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: get the pieces that fit around them right now. Unfortunately,

1001
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 4: and it's tough for Darvin Ham. Darvin Ham did a

1002
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: heck of a job this season. We spoke about this.

1003
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: The problem was the roster. The roster just didn't fit

1004
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 4: and and it is hard. You gotta find guys that

1005
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: fit around Lebron and not just Lebron and older Lebron.

1006
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the curiosity for me, because I'll go

1007
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: Devil's advocate and ah really, because I believe it is

1008
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: it wise to build all your hopes and dreams around Lebron.

1009
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 2: I know he brings in but puts butts in seats.

1010
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: And it's la and all that. But from a straight

1011
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: basketball sense, the wall gets hit eventually.

1012
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: Right here.

1013
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 3: He's hurt a number of years.

1014
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: Here's the answer. You'll like this the challenges can you

1015
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: afford not to? In answer is no, So it's not

1016
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: that is this the best decision? No, I don't think

1017
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 4: other than Shay Gilgess, Alexander Luka, Doncic, you know, And

1018
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: I mean, forgive me if I'm missing somebody else. There

1019
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: are no guarantees. Kevin Durant don't have the same value

1020
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 4: that he has. Steph Curry don't have the same value

1021
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 4: that he has. These guys, these guys are not leading

1022
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: you to championships anymore. So you can't sign that guy.

1023
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: And they say, this guy means a championship, but you

1024
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: can't afford to lose them. And that's the value. And

1025
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: I love I love this about today's NBA. The guys

1026
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: guess what They know their value. So because they know

1027
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: their value, they take advantage of it as they should.

1028
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: Well, the guys always knew it. It was just a

1029
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: question of whether the paradigm shift would happen. And certainly

1030
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: hats off to Lebron for doing that. You know, I know, folks,

1031
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: bemoan it all these twenty years now that we've been

1032
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: watching this play out and team in players moving around.

1033
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: You know, the old in my team stayed together. It's

1034
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: like college basketball. It's like you know. One of the

1035
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: things that I think is the to the detriment is

1036
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: that you know, between transfers and one and Dun's, you

1037
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: don't really have you love. You're rooting for laundry more

1038
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: so than ever at the college level, because you don't

1039
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 2: forge a three or four year relationship with your top

1040
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: notch players because they're gone. Yeah, the bigger thing is

1041
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: just on the lebron side, you know, where where is

1042
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: the cliff versus you know, looking at where you're at

1043
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference and taking that true look at it, Ryan,

1044
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: because you've got a couple of teams that are on

1045
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: the come right, your Rockets playing better basketball and starting

1046
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: to gel a bit. There still some moving parts, obviously,

1047
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: but you look at Memphis that we're missing a number

1048
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: of players, including John Morant who was off to a

1049
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: fantastic start before he got hurt. So they come back,

1050
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: they'll be more viable. We'll see what New Orleans does

1051
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: with Brandon Ingram and the health of Zion Williamson is

1052
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: always a question. But trying to get through the Western Conference,

1053
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: I mean it's a gauntlet, right, We're watching it during

1054
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs for sure, series, the series, the how you know,

1055
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: contentious every game is. Sure, there's some blowouts in the mix,

1056
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: but that's that's to be expected at this point, right,

1057
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: They live to see another day kind of mentality for

1058
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: some of it. But it's just that curiosity in a

1059
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: larger scope that isn't about short term dollars.

1060
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: No, you're right about it, but hey, you have to

1061
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 4: go out and sign Lebron. You got to bring them back.

1062
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 4: There's no questions there. You can't challenge it. And again

1063
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: it's more so about what would you look like without them?

1064
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: So you know Rich Paul and I love this about

1065
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: Rich Paul. Rich Paul fights for the players. And sometimes

1066
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: you have agents that they're worried about a team. They

1067
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: don't want to ruin a relationship that they have with

1068
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 4: the team, and they weren't always working the best interest

1069
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: of a player. Whatever you want to say about Rich Paul,

1070
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 4: he gets his guys paid. Those guys get paid. Now,

1071
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: you may not like the way he does it. You

1072
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: may not like what he says. You may say, hey, well,

1073
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be in the situation. I've spoken with Rich before.

1074
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: He say he had he wouldn't be who he is

1075
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: without Lebron. Rich would tell you he wouldn't be who

1076
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 4: he is without Lebron. But Rich is also worth his

1077
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: weight in gold because he's gone out and he and

1078
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 4: he's he's made his he's made his own money, and

1079
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: he's brought value to the situation. And you know, for

1080
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 4: those who don't know NBA players, everybody has a guy

1081
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 4: that's the that's his guy. Everybody has a guy that's

1082
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: his guy, that's such such guy. Everybody has a guy, right, Well,

1083
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: Lebron's guys make money for him. Well, but that's it.

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: Right, Let's put a pin in this because this is

1085
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: a bigger conversation because Rich Paul had something else to

1086
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: say that I that I want to bring up because

1087
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: it ties in to the other dangling story in the NBA,

1088
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 2: because we can't get enough of trying to debate how

1089
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: great Bronnie James will be at the next level, instead

1090
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: of everybody just being honest and putting a giant question

1091
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: markup like they're on a game show. It's not an eight,

1092
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: it's not a nine, it's not a ten on a

1093
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: scale of certainty. It's a giant question mark. We'll talk

1094
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: about that in some of Rich Paul's other comments next.

1095
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: As we continue here live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com Studios, Fox Sports Sunday, He's Ryan Hollins, I'll Mike

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Speaker 2: Carmon stick with us. We're having a blast here on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday morning. Welcome back, and it's Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports a Radio Mike Harmon alongside Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 2: Remember, shortly after the show, the podcast goes up. You

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Speaker 2: missed Danny at today's show, three hours of glorious conversation.

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Speaker 2: the podcast, and again search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

1106
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Speaker 2: get your podcast, and you'll see this show, Fox Sports Weekends,

1107
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Hollins and Harmon. Right after we get

1108
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: off the year and then you take that link and

1109
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: you evangelize, and you tell four friends, and they tell

1110
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: four friends, and suddenly we got a whole church com

1111
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: congregation going into parking lot going, hey, we just had

1112
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: some donuts and coffee with the pastor, and now we're

1113
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: gonna go listen to Fox Sports Radio.

1114
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1115
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: That's how we build community, That's how we build consensus

1116
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: and take over the world.

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00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: Ryan Hollins, you're doing this on a Sunday too. Oh gosh, you're.

1118
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: We're evangelt what. I have the same passion as a

1119
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: man in the pulpit. I've been told oftentimes by my daughters,

1120
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Speaker 2: I missed my calling.

1121
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Speaker 4: You are a great speaker.

1122
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that.

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00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we actually had a pretty

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00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: fun one with their soccer squad and we're waiting on

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: the game and we I get there and someone asked

1126
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: me a question and I turned and the way it's set,

1127
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: it's like you had like four rows of all the parents,

1128
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: grandparents and and you know, siblings and everything sitting there

1129
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: and my back is to the field, and it looks

1130
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: like I'm preaching to them, and I've got hand gestures right,

1131
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: you know me. I mean, you know, the arms starts flying,

1132
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: and my daughter, I guess at some point they all

1133
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 2: stop playing, goes, what's.

1134
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: He talking about?

1135
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: Now?

1136
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Like, because you were a total preacher, because at one

1137
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: point we had gone to the local park, you know,

1138
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: just you know, during the COVID stuff, right, everybody's doing

1139
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: more outside, you know, services and whatever. And there were

1140
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: all these chairs set up and eventually congregation shows and

1141
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: we're you know, kicking the soccer ball, she's practicing traps whatever.

1142
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: And you could hear the guy on his little little speaker,

1143
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, trying to shout above you know, some of

1144
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: the singing and the you know, outpouring of emotion.

1145
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: She goes, you know, you could do that when you're

1146
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: done with radio. I go, wow, It's like I appreciate that.

1147
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: It's like, now people listen to you, like, well that

1148
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, And I hope that's right. Thus far,

1149
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm a proof of concept. Here we are on a

1150
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: Sunday morning on Fox Sports Radio.

1151
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: After this, like you have an expiration date when you're

1152
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: done with radio.

1153
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at how about this when radio's

1154
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: done with me? How about that deed? But you know

1155
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: what health is, okay? Ish We rally each morning and

1156
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: each evening to try to entertain and inform and create

1157
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of chaos and get you away from

1158
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: the trials and tribulations of everyday life, right, trying to

1159
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: explain the job to some folks. Even yesterday, right, we're

1160
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: down there for a tournament and one of the parents like,

1161
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: so on a day to day you know, you know,

1162
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: how do you decide what you're going to talk about

1163
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: whatever else and kind of going through and then you

1164
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: know the P word showed up. Politics. It's like oh yeah, no, no, no.

1165
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: The whole idea is we're taking you away from all

1166
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: of those you know, vexing thing. If it bleeds into sports, right,

1167
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: and we've got bills you know, in front of congressmen

1168
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: or whatever, when we talk about nil deals and going

1169
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: up the courts in each state and everything that goes through,

1170
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: then yeah, we bring it in there and try to

1171
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 2: read the tea leaves, you know, legalized sports gambling whatever

1172
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: that that's germane.

1173
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: To what we're talking about.

1174
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: But otherwise like no, no, no, no, we don't need

1175
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: to bring the anger and divisiveness here.

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00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: We're bringing you together. Now.

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00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: You may hate us because you think I hate their

1178
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: your favorite team or player, and you might be right,

1179
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you might absolutely be right. You may be

1180
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: justified and everything that you say, but the goal is

1181
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be mad at someone, be mad at me.

1182
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: Be good to your family, be good to your friends,

1183
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: look after your coworkers, even if you don't particularly care

1184
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: for them. You can get through the day because eventually

1185
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: you're going home to the people you love or the

1186
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: xbox or the TV, or your cat or dog or

1187
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: whatever else.

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00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 13: Like.

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: That's the goal here, right, Laugh with us and then

1190
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: shake your fist and anger at stuff we say, and

1191
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: then go and try to live a happier, blissful life

1192
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: somewhere else.

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: That's the goal. As you stop by, how's that for

1194
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: a thesis statement?

1195
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: That's solid?

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: You think I could build a congregation off there? There

1197
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: you go, I'm gonna need some land.

1198
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: We'll tough in California.

1199
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm willing to relocate eventually, so if

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: you can get me a plot of land near the

1201
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: planet Houston there, and then you know, suddenly I start

1202
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: showing up in the background on your broadcasts and there

1203
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: he is, who's that guy? And we could build a

1204
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: viral thing kind of like they've done with you know,

1205
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: all of the characters coming back to the ww ILO

1206
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: wants to tag in on this. What frightens the hell

1207
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Speaker 2: out of me?

1208
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Speaker 9: I do have a suggestion. Do you remember the former

1209
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 9: home of your Houston Rockets, the Summit that is actually

1210
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 9: literally now a church. How about this throwing that out?

1211
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: That's a that's one of those mega churches right there.

1212
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I like this.

1214
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: All right, I'm in, I'm in. Let's go, Rich Paul.

1215
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: Let's get back to him for a minute. We talked

1216
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: about with Lebron James, and I don't think it's any

1217
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: surprise that Lebron would opt out, become a free agent

1218
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: and at least, you know, make the Lakers sweat a

1219
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: little bit because he's got some things he needs to accomplish.

1220
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: New TV deal, don't forget that also.

1221
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 2: Right, TV deal. We've certainly talked about that. In about

1222
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, will do the inside the NBA requisite talk,

1223
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: because I think I've come up with the best angle

1224
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: to all of it that you haven't heard just yet.

1225
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: And no, I'm not bowing to the altar of the

1226
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: four guys at the DAIS. I can tell you that

1227
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: even though I respect the hell out of it, don't

1228
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: get me wrong, But for Rich Paul talking about Lebron

1229
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: James and what he's done and what he's built, and

1230
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: as we were talking about before of Ryan Rich Paul

1231
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: Owes a lot to lebron James. But the thing is,

1232
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: you get in the door and he likened Bronni James,

1233
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: and all the speculation of where he's going to get drafted,

1234
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: will he get overdrafted?

1235
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: Right?

1236
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: You got like thirty seven percent of the money being

1237
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: bet for the number one overall pick. Now he's got

1238
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: odds of two hundred to one and there's no legitimate

1239
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: expectation that he's going to actually be the number one pick.

1240
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: But throwing a fin on a two hundred to one

1241
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: shot is pretty much the American dream. Now, you know,

1242
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: you might as well just burn that five dollar bill

1243
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: and see what kind of fibers survive on the initial flame.

1244
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to burn money, Okay, I love mine.

1245
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Send the five dollars to me if you want to

1246
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: do that instead of betting on Bronnie James. See what

1247
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: I did there? Now, I truly am passing the collection

1248
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: plate on a Sunday morning. But the idea that for

1249
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: Bronnie James, yeah, he may get an extra look because

1250
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: of his dad. He may get into the league because

1251
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: of his dad. Right, Go Austin Rivers, Go whatever. Eventually,

1252
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: you got to prove that you can play to stick

1253
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: around the league.

1254
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 5: Right.

1255
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: The lebron hold only goes so far in terms of longevity. Right,

1256
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 2: You're not going to be a legacy play that gets

1257
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: to play fifteen years in the league. If you can't play,

1258
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: if you can't fill some type of role, whether you

1259
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: become a spot up shooter, a guy that you can

1260
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: go and play defense, I don't know. Maybe he grows

1261
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: another couple of inches. I know he's got the reach

1262
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: and all. Ryan, we've discussed that before, but he went

1263
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: down talking about Brownie James. But he brought in the

1264
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: idea of James Dolan, like, well, you inherit a business

1265
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: and then you try to build that business off of

1266
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: the back of what your parents, grandparents, whoever else, and

1267
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: extrapolate beyond that. And this goes to any business USA.

1268
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: You know mom and pop shops that try to expand.

1269
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: Chris and I were talking about a sandwich shop he'd

1270
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: loved down in Savannah, Georgia that eventually, you know what, Hey,

1271
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: we've got enough of a business, We've got enough of

1272
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: a nest egg. Let's try to build a second spot

1273
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 2: and maybe expands from there. Right, it all starts with

1274
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: baby steps and eventually maybe one of the kids takes

1275
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: over the business. Right, same kind of idea, all a

1276
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 2: matter of scale and scope. But when we're looking at

1277
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, Rich Paul, Yeah he got into the door

1278
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: because of Lebron James, but look what has to happen.

1279
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: You've got to have proof of concept. You got to

1280
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: be able to get to the table, stay at the table,

1281
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: and not be the guy that there's like, all right,

1282
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm just not dealing with him because he gets his

1283
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: guys paid, right, and the top players want to be

1284
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: part of what he's built. It's the Scott Boris effect

1285
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. Everybody can bemoan his ways of

1286
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: bringing in seven hundred pages of comparisons between the last

1287
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: guy that got paid and his guy and how their

1288
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: guy is better. And here's statistics and advanced analytics you

1289
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: haven't even thought of. Right, He's like an outer space

1290
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: where he's gone into the future and found the stuff

1291
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: from ten years from now. And they may not want

1292
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: to deal with him in this offseason. A lot of

1293
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: his guys ended up having to sign short term deals.

1294
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: So maybe the chickens have come home to roost for

1295
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: a bit, but in the interim, guys were getting paid

1296
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars extra because his name was

1297
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: attached to the negotiations, because he wasn't going to settle

1298
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: with Rich Paul. It's become the same thing in the NBA.

1299
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: And if you have the power and in whatever you do,

1300
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: you know you do it. You know, kill him with

1301
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: kindness was my old man's line for growing up right.

1302
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: But at some point, if you have the leverage and

1303
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: you have the need and the opportunity, you're taking full

1304
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: advantage of it to make sure you're taking care of yours.

1305
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: And that's what Rich Paul has done. So you don't

1306
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: have to like him, but you have to respect the

1307
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: hell of what he's built.

1308
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: No, You're you're absolutely right, And you know, look at

1309
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 4: his body of work, look at the numbers, and you know, hey,

1310
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: you know, if your one complaint maybe and this is

1311
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: where Rich gets accused of, does Lebron want does? Does

1312
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: is his main interest Lebron James? Of course, if it's

1313
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 4: between you and Lebron James and Rich Paul is your agent,

1314
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: who do you think is going to choose? And now

1315
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: that is up for a matter of.

1316
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Extra Commas and zero's associated with Lebron James.

1317
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, or but you know, may he want to juice

1318
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 4: Lebron's teams? Of course he is, but he's also gotten

1319
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: those guys paid. That's j R. Smith, as Tristian Thompson,

1320
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 4: Eric Bledsoe, Ben Simmons and none of.

1321
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: The things he got me and keep going on down

1322
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: the line.

1323
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 4: Well a d was gonna inc max contracts regardless, that's

1324
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: the easy one.

1325
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: Well, but that's but that's the one where you start

1326
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: going to the devil in the details. Well for where

1327
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: it might not be dollars and sent for.

1328
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 4: AD was getting to LA right, that was the challenge

1329
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: for AD.

1330
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: Now, now that was unsavory how that all went down,

1331
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: but it's the business.

1332
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but as former agency had relationships with Oklahoma City

1333
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: and they didn't want to ruffle feathers where Rich Paul's like,

1334
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: I don't care I'm ruffling feathers.

1335
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: It was more the operation shutdown kind of thing that

1336
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: that kind of bugged me. It's like I'm saving myself

1337
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: for good because.

1338
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm going there.

1339
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: That's how you maybe a little bit injured, but that's

1340
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: how you get.

1341
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 4: That's how you get traded. That's how you get paid. Unfortunately,

1342
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: it's part of negotiation. You know, when you're getting ready

1343
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 4: to do your your deal, all of a sudden you

1344
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: get a little I'm sick. I don't know if I

1345
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: could work. You know, you got to show your value man.

1346
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 4: So it's uh, it's it's unfortunately, it's it's a part

1347
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: of it.

1348
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: By the way, the Rich Paul monologue I did there,

1349
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: would that have inspired you to maybe reach to the wallet?

1350
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: I thought about it. I was close. I mean that

1351
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 4: was really good you like you do have.

1352
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: I mean, because that was extemporaneous speaking. I mean, Ian,

1353
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: Chris and Ilo can can attest to you.

1354
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: I've got like one one you.

1355
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you saw what I sent you to my

1356
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: Chicken scratch with just some random headlines. And then I've

1357
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: got the reads to make sure that I do proper

1358
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: respect to the Tiraq dot com folks that have me in.

1359
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: This yere seat. Otherwise, pure Harmon.

1360
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: There we go, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike

1361
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Harmon alongside Ryan Hollands. Yeah, you don't have to like

1362
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: the way that business has made and sometimes seeing how

1363
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: the sausage is made, it can get distasteful. And I

1364
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: think that's part of the part of the problem. It's

1365
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: great for us, it's great for those of us that

1366
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: love the business of sport, Ryan, but for those that

1367
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: just want to watch basketball. And I'm not even going

1368
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: into the you know, shut up and dribble and all

1369
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: that stuff. That's that's not what we're going with any

1370
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: of it. Well, because I'm gonna get someone that is

1371
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna bring that up. Right, It's like I'm just doing

1372
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: the catchup. I'm going from the straight business of it

1373
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: and being able to see how the sausage is made.

1374
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: You may not like it, right, which is why I

1375
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: brought up the ad. You know the way things ended

1376
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: in New Orleans, right, Jason and I on air a

1377
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: bunch talking about a top three player and here it

1378
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: is a cornerstone. Is like, nah, he doesn't want to

1379
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: be there anymore, all right, But if you have leverage

1380
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 2: to leave and get paid and go work where you

1381
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: want to work, right, all things being equal, I mean,

1382
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: most people are walking across the street if the work

1383
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: environment's going to be a little bit better, or there's

1384
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: an extra dollar an hour attached to their paycheck.

1385
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: It's just reality. Yeah, there's some moving.

1386
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: Costs of switching costs some new personalities, to get to

1387
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: know new cities, to navigate in LA recognizing you know

1388
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: how much the taxes are going to take. I'll get

1389
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: to Draymond Green here next hour, but you get all

1390
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: the way through Ryan. I mean, there's you see it.

1391
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: And for me, the transparency, at least as much as

1392
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: we get it's still, you know, a bit opaque, but

1393
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: it gives us a better understanding and reminder of the

1394
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: humanity of it. All right, Because what's one of the

1395
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: greatest laments limitations of players in every sport. We were

1396
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: reduced to fantasy chips, betting chips, et cetera. Well, we

1397
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: humanize it in terms of decision making processes for families

1398
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: and upheaval whatever. Damian Lillard being very open about his

1399
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: transition to Milwaukee and how difficult that was, right going

1400
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: through a divorce and kids and all of that stuff. Like,

1401
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: when we can humanize players and really put it back

1402
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 2: in the context of our own lives and decisions we

1403
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: have to make. I think it's for the better men

1404
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: of the game. Even if some would say I just

1405
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 2: want a guy playing basketball. I don't need to know

1406
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: all that. Here's what to do you shut off social

1407
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: media and you shut off all the damn yelling shows.

1408
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: We're having nice conversations here. We're not giving you the

1409
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,480
Speaker 2: hyperbole that you might get elsewhere.

1410
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 13: There.

1411
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: You got Ryan, No, no, no, that's that's what we do.

1412
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 4: You're you're getting the truth and that's you know, the reality,

1413
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 4: the reality of sports. There are people, there's a business

1414
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 4: behind it, and you know it's all about the value. Hey,

1415
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 4: the reality is which Paul have value? Yeh? Does it

1416
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 4: come because Lebron? Yes? Is the player more important than

1417
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: the coach? Yes, because you can lose the player and

1418
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 4: you don't get a championship. You lose the coach, you

1419
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: you don't get a championship. But the player, wherever he goes,

1420
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: can give you the championship. Ask Lebron, Ask Kawhi, Leonard As,

1421
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, ask those guys. So it's just the business

1422
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 4: of the game and the and the truth behind the matter.

1423
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: If you can get Kawhi on the line, ask when

1424
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: he's next going to play, I need it back on

1425
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: the court.

1426
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 4: We we'd all love to see that.

1427
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 3: And we'll lead me back when the Intuit Dome opens.

1428
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean toilets, I'm sure but play again. But hey,

1429
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: Kawhi doing everything he can to play. Trust me, nobody

1430
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: wants to sit out. Leonard is working too hard. I've

1431
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 4: seen guys shut it down. Kawhi ain't shut it down.

1432
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: He's just he can only do what he can do physically.

1433
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 3: You just hit that point.

1434
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: As we roll forward, will my maybe somewhat controversial take

1435
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: on inside the NBA. But first we got our guy,

1436
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowenkron with an update of what's going on in.

1437
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 3: Our sporting universe.

1438
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: He may have account of how many cars are out

1439
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: of miss F one race for Monaco, and I have

1440
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: no doubt that he's coming to attack Ryan Hollins.

1441
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 10: Why do you have to agitate like that? But yeah,

1442
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 10: you're my job.

1443
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 12: You're right, not two, not three, not four, not five,

1444
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 12: not fix pretty much.

1445
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 9: I was becoming a jingle of a certain legendary Burger place,

1446
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 9: especially compared to another Burger place.

1447
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 10: All right, Enough of that.

1448
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 9: Game three of the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals on Saturday

1449
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 9: nights on, the Boston Celtics rally from eighteen down with

1450
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 9: five forty eight left of the third quarter to win

1451
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 9: at Indiana one fourteen to one eleven for a three

1452
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 9: games to lead drew Holiday to Go. I had three

1453
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 9: point play with thirty eight seconds left in the fourth quarter.

1454
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 10: Then he had the.

1455
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 9: Clinching steel and three throws in the final seconds. Meanwhile,

1456
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 9: in Game two of the NHL's Western Conference Final Saturday

1457
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 9: night at the Dallas Stars defeated the Edmonton Oilers three

1458
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 9: to one, tying the series. Had one baseball Saturday night,

1459
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 9: the Yankees won at San Diego four to one. They're

1460
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,919
Speaker 9: on a four game winning streak. Aaron Judge has homered

1461
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,959
Speaker 9: in all four games. Yankees have also won eleven of thirteen,

1462
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 9: and over those thirteen games, Judge is batting four to

1463
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 9: fifty five with eight home runs. Speaking of eighth, the

1464
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 9: Cleveland Guardians on an eight game winning streak. After a

1465
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 9: four to three win over the Angels in Anaheim, Phillies

1466
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 9: rallied for six of the top of the ninth to

1467
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 9: win at Colorado eight to four. Diamondbacks over the Marlins

1468
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 9: three to two. Arizona has won eleven of eighteen. Finally, indeed,

1469
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 9: a big day in auto racing with the Indianapolis five

1470
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 9: hundred as well as the Monaco grond and one of

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 9: the most entertaining elements of the Monaco Grand Prix. The

1472
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 9: celebrity grid Walk interviews conducted by Sky Sports personality Martin Brundle.

1473
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:18,879
Speaker 9: Here was Brundle today interviewing Joe Jonas of the Jonas Brothers,

1474
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 9: although Brundle did not quite know that listen.

1475
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 5: Hello, but one of the Jonas brothers said, I'm not

1476
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna admit I don't.

1477
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: I could lie, I could make something up, but I

1478
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: don't know which one. How are you? I'm not team

1479
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: running for Sky?

1480
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: I think. Good to see you throwing the be here.

1481
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, exciting day, a little toasty, but that's why we're

1482
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 9: in shorts, you know.

1483
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's why I'm good.

1484
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got dressed in the dog obviously good.

1485
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: So have you been to one before? Yes?

1486
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 10: Miami, Austin, Montreal.

1487
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 4: I'm a fan.

1488
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 10: So good on Joe Jonas for being a good sport there.

1489
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, I mean, would you be able

1490
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: to pick out which one was which?

1491
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 6: Now?

1492
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know.

1493
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 10: I wonder how often they get that.

1494
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: Frankly, you know what, as long as the cash keeps rolling, Ryan,

1495
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just had a guy tell me how

1496
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: much he liked my preaching.

1497
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: He said, keep going Mark.

1498
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 9: Oh God, Oh, can I tell a really quick story, Goad?

1499
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 4: Why So?

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Speaker 10: I was at a high school dance and.

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 9: A young lady at my high school dance asked me

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01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 9: to dance, which was very nice. She was a twin

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 9: so she had a twin sister. I went through the

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 9: whole dance. I did not know which twin sister it was.

1505
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 9: It was so awkward. I felt so bad. Fortunately made

1506
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 9: it through the whole dance back to you.

1507
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: Do you think they tagged out? Tried to ask her Tay,

1508
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: I mean he both kind of liked you wearing matching dresses.

1509
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: And then because I mean, we really could have taken

1510
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: that story at a whole different turn. Ryan, Sunday Morning.

1511
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,959
Speaker 2: I thought Ilo was really he was working Blue.

1512
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: There for a second.

1513
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: It's actually ILO's wife and he still doesn't know which

1514
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: woman is nice. Ian Rody here at Ian Roddy on

1515
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 2: the Wow with the Hammer at Chris Perfat at Isaac Lohenkrown,

1516
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: Find Ryan at the Ryan Hollins, find me over at Swollendum.

1517
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: Coming up next, maybe controversial take on inside the NBA

1518
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: and it's possible end. Yeah, you may hate me after

1519
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: this again at Swollen Dome we'll talk about it next

1520
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: on Fox Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

1521
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: My Carbon alongside Ryan Hollins. Coming up next, we got

1522
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,919
Speaker 2: a new report coming out of Philly about possible targets

1523
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: in free agency. Ryan Hollins will put your GM hat on.

1524
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't think you can be arrested for tampering or

1525
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. At the Ryan Hollins where you

1526
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: find them. Ten years in the league, working with the

1527
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets, the opinionated seven footers. You see him in

1528
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: many media circles and obviously I'm blessed to be with

1529
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: him here on Sunday Mornings. We have a blessed Now

1530
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: it's fun, man, Come on, blessed that you get up

1531
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: and you're willing.

1532
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: To work with me.

1533
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 4: Come on, man, of course.

1534
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm sure there are people that have lists.

1535
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: There's Steve Buscemi going back to Billy Madison.

1536
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: Right, I'm glad I called that guy. I might be

1537
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: on those lists.

1538
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but all right, the inside the NBA

1539
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: story right takes all its turns. Charles Barkley's showing up

1540
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: and calling off Zasloff and all the bosses and everything else.

1541
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: They have a right of refusal right in terms of

1542
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: the contracts, all the other dollars and cents, and that's

1543
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: part of it. It's negotiations on all sides, right, He's

1544
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: him speaking out, Ernie's saying hell no, we won't go whatever.

1545
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: Else.

1546
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to make sure they get taken care of

1547
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: and treated in their minds fairly to all of it

1548
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: and the hand ringing that's gone on in our business. Ryan,

1549
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: you know the I watch more of that than I

1550
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: watch of games.

1551
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 3: Okay?

1552
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: Is it because you watch the clips that show up

1553
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: in your timeline on Twitter or Instagram? Because that's all

1554
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: I watch. I mean, it's not appointment viewing for me.

1555
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: Am I entertained by what they say?

1556
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 5: Sure do.

1557
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: I love watching Charles and Shack get after each other,

1558
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: no question about it, and Earnie trying to referee and

1559
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: being as diplomatic as he could possibly be. I think

1560
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: the real reason that there's so much consternation over this

1561
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: is not because of the greatness of the show.

1562
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: And it's fantastic, there's no denying that, right, It's become

1563
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 3: what everybody emulates. If you've got a panel of any

1564
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: sort on TV, on radio, whatever. I think it's because

1565
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 3: a number of people had stopped actually worrying about news

1566
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 3: reports and they do more coverage of media and hyperbolic

1567
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: statements rather than the idea of all right, here's a

1568
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: news story, let's extrapolate from there. So it's gonna ruin

1569
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people's content, and they're planning for shows.

1570
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,440
Speaker 3: I think that's the real reason. It's not this undying

1571
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: love and adoration of those four. It's because now they'll

1572
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 3: have to actually come up with a B block on

1573
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: a Monday morning.

1574
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think, well, here's the respect, and here's

1575
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 4: from my view of what you see. You don't get

1576
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 4: two Hall of famers that are willing to do the

1577
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 4: work and then not just willing to do the work,

1578
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 4: actually be good at it. And when you look at

1579
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 4: the show, they're really really good at what they do.

1580
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 4: And I think that's the oh wow, you know, this

1581
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 4: is different. This is something that we want to watch,

1582
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 4: and that's the excitement behind the show. And they're amazing people. Man.

1583
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: I've been blessed to work over there at Turner and

1584
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 4: you're walking around, Man, I remember, like I thought I

1585
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 4: was in a dream, Like I wanted to pull my

1586
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 4: phone out, Like I remember looking one side and you

1587
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: get these fun times. Isaiah Thomas was there. Then I

1588
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: looked to my right, Chris Weber was there. Then I

1589
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 4: looked over, Shaq was there. Then Kenny was there, and

1590
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I even too? We had ten

1591
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 4: years in the league in this building. Yeah, but I'm

1592
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 4: not one of those guys, but you're kind of you.

1593
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: I was found myself just shaking my head saying, oh

1594
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 4: my God, like I cannot believe that I'm here right now,

1595
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 4: you know. And I say that to say that was

1596
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 4: the cool thing about what Turner did. You found those

1597
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 4: hardworking guys that were Hall of famers, that were willing

1598
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 4: to do the work, and a lot of times, like

1599
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: I said, those guys are not willing to do that.

1600
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: I would say this though, Ryan in in you know,

1601
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 3: battle to that.

1602
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: How many times has the talking point been these guys

1603
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 2: obviously don't know anything about these college players and teams

1604
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: or even in the NBA. How many games have they

1605
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: watched of that team? Like that becomes a lot of

1606
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: content hubs, you know, as people defend their local squads

1607
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: as well.

1608
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 4: Oh you're not going to stop watching you still in

1609
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 4: the well no again.

1610
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 2: But it's becomes the the content hub that I speak of, Like,

1611
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: look at how they don't know our team, these high

1612
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: powered guys. So I think that's it. They're going to

1613
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: miss those moments. I'm like, guess what something else will

1614
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: rise up in their place, and if Charles is smart

1615
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: about it, that production company gets at locked down really

1616
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: fast and goes independent. Hey, coming up next, Sixers on

1617
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 2: the hunt for a big free agent.

1618
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,440
Speaker 3: When name entered the list, you're listening.

1619
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: To Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1620
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Speaker 2: the Twitter verse at the Ryan Hollins find me over

1627
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. First two hours hammered down very quickly here,

1628
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. So many storylines that are in and around

1629
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: the game, and we didn't even try to predict what's

1630
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna happen a little bit later on. So we'll do

1631
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: that in about fifteen minutes as well as Draymond Green

1632
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: with some well let's get some fiddles out and maybe

1633
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: some violins and a big string section talking about the

1634
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 2: economics of the NBA.

1635
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 3: We got that sound.

1636
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: We'll do that in a little bit as well. And

1637
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: then we've got Kevin Garnett had some thoughts on the

1638
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: Defensive Player.

1639
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: Of the Year award. But how were we doing on a

1640
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: Sunday morning.

1641
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: We've got a big brunch planned or you know, some

1642
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 2: kind of big event that you that you're gonna go

1643
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 2: and take over the world.

1644
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 4: Maybe just hangle with my buddy.

1645
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 3: Aw I'll assume that's me. Either that or you have

1646
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 3: a dope right now.

1647
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: All right, Well, as we roll on, We've got Ian,

1648
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: We've got Chris, and we've got Isaac. We're having a

1649
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: blast this morning. Appreciate y'all giving us a little bit

1650
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: of your holiday weekend. We've got a lot of live racing.

1651
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: I got my head on a swivel, multiple monitors here

1652
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 2: in the Fox Sports Radio studios, here the tire Rax studios, Ryan,

1653
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: and we've had a bunch of accidents, a lot of

1654
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: parts flying. I mean you probably will find some of

1655
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: those on eBay, the ones they can't salvage try to

1656
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: make some nice collectibles for people, or maybe they show

1657
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: up in a Panini trading card to come as we flow,

1658
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: but or maybe.

1659
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 3: That's Tops, Yeah, Tops has that f one.

1660
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, the idea being that you have an opportunity to

1661
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: have a part of the car that was wrecked by

1662
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: your favorite driver is what we talked about. Keith POMPEII

1663
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Sixers beat Rider for the Philly Inquirer. This one just

1664
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: popping down the line here, so let's jump on it.

1665
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: At Pompey on Sixers is his Twitter handle talking about

1666
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 2: the Sixers and their quest to now figure out the

1667
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: next iteration of the squad. You got Maxie, you got

1668
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: Joe lmbad and now it's all right, how do you

1669
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: pair someone else up with them to make another run?

1670
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 3: Right?

1671
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: Injuries beset this squad and took them out of the

1672
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference contention. Hard fought battle against the Knicks. That

1673
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: was one fun series to watch, all the angst of

1674
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: those dormant to a degree, Sixers have had obviously far

1675
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: more runs and six sas on a yearly basis in

1676
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: recent history than the Knicks, but to get those fan

1677
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: bases reactivated was great and now POMPEII rights.

1678
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 3: Well, Sixers do have their eyes.

1679
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 2: On other lucrative salary impact players just in case they

1680
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,480
Speaker 2: don't get Paul George. So they're also looking at potential

1681
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: free agents. And we talked about rich Paul kat out

1682
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 2: of the bag. He's going to opt out to go

1683
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 2: find that multi year deal. But they're setting their sites

1684
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: on potential free agents like the Los Angeles Lakers, Lebron

1685
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: James and New York Knicks Ford Ogi Onnobi, his impact

1686
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: on the Knicks cannot be denied for folks who want

1687
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: to go back and watch some artistry at work, some

1688
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: guts determination, a guy that really fit what Tom Thibodau

1689
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: is building. That's a guy that if you can add

1690
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: him to your front line and take him away from

1691
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: the Sixers, talk about a coup. But if not in

1692
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: free agency, Sixers believe they can use their draft assets

1693
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: an available cap space to acquire a difference maker via

1694
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: a trade. Lebron look in a six uniform.

1695
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 4: He looked pretty good. Well. The cat and mouse game

1696
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 4: that the Lakers will play is that Lebron James, you

1697
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 4: have kids in school and one in high school. You

1698
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: don't want to do any moving around. That is the leverage.

1699
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,480
Speaker 4: Talked about it a couple of weeks ago Russell Westbrook

1700
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 4: when he left the Lakers, he went straightware to the Clippers.

1701
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 4: When you have kids and your kids are at high school,

1702
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: your kids are older, you don't want to move. You

1703
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 4: get you get to that point where it's it's not

1704
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 4: about the money, it's about being happy about your family,

1705
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 4: about your wife, about your you know, being home. So

1706
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 4: for Lebron James, that's the leverage that that they know

1707
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 4: you don't want to go to Philadelphia if you're the Lakers.

1708
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 4: Come on, Lebron, stopped playing around? What are you waiting on?

1709
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 4: And you know, I remember when my kids were young

1710
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 4: and playing in the league, it was just more so

1711
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 4: that hey they're young. After the season, we would just

1712
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 4: pull them out of school, go back to California or

1713
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 4: daycare or whatever, and there was no big deal. Now

1714
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 4: when you're when when the season's over, guess what you're

1715
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 4: hanging around? You want know why you're hanging around because

1716
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 4: your kids are in school. So I bring that up

1717
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: to say that as we talk about Philly, for Paul

1718
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 4: George and even Lebron James, that leverage is still there

1719
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 4: with the home team and they know it. So even

1720
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 4: if you have the Clippers, you're saying, oh, well, Paul George,

1721
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 4: we know you don't want to leave LA.

1722
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: You know you're an LA guy.

1723
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 4: You're an LA guy and all.

1724
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: Your creature comforts and friends and family and stuff are here.

1725
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: Hey, and as I'll throw it out. I don't even

1726
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: know if it would work, but hey, if the Lakers

1727
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: are smart, I'll be getting on the phone with Paul

1728
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 4: George and say, hey, hey, Paul, you know if they

1729
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 4: don't want to pay you, you know we will pay you, right.

1730
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask you that. Then let's let's bridge off

1731
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: to that. For Lebron James opting out and the reports

1732
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: are whatever it was three for one fifty two or

1733
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: one sixty two or whatever that number is. Remember what

1734
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: happened when he went down to Miami and tried to

1735
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: make the best run of it and they went to

1736
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: four Eastern Conference finals, winning two NBA titles. So this

1737
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: is a situation where he looks at the road, looks

1738
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: at the west. Yeah, I want to stay in LA,

1739
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 2: but let's work on the finances so we can add

1740
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: more pieces. As opposed to Rob Polinka having to be

1741
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: perfect in whatever mid cap exemptions or you know, all

1742
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: of those different rules for bringing in veterans on these

1743
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: these type of structures. Would it be whove him? Would

1744
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: he consider that at this point in his career.

1745
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: If you're Lebron James, you want to win, and you're

1746
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 4: absolutely right, you know, I will not be surprised if

1747
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 4: he considered taking less two or trying to figure something

1748
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 4: out wise to get a Paul George there or get

1749
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 4: some there, you know, in a Lakers uniform. Because for

1750
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 4: Lebron James, you know, they end up getting bounced out

1751
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 4: the playoffs early, I mean playing and does it even

1752
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 4: count it as well?

1753
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right, do you count it?

1754
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean because folks were going semantics like, well, technically

1755
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: they were the seventh or eighth seed, so they would

1756
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: have made the playoffs, Like come on, let's he's not.

1757
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: That's just silly.

1758
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: The point is you on to waste that time, right,

1759
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 4: And for Lebron James, I mean another ring, Oh my goodness,

1760
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 4: that would do. They would do volumes and only just

1761
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 4: for the sake of just chasing Jordan's you know, and

1762
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 4: Lebron James is still playing for a reason, and I'm

1763
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 4: telling you right now, it's definitely something that that he'd

1764
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 4: have to consider. And if you're a team that wants

1765
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: to get over the edge, Paul George is the top

1766
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 4: my list. So I I honestly would be very surprised

1767
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 4: if the Clippers let him go and they're okay with that.

1768
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 4: But every other team, man is going to show his value.

1769
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 4: In my agent, Todd Ramazar told me one thing, you know,

1770
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 4: because I'm saying, you know, I forget where I was.

1771
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I want to get out of here.

1772
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to play here, or you know, I

1773
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 4: want to make some money whatever. You know, this grun

1774
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 4: old player talk was going on in my in my

1775
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 4: young head was Hey, Ry, if you don't have any value,

1776
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 4: there's nothing to negotiate. You have to take this deal,

1777
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 4: the deal that the team put on ahead of you.

1778
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 4: Unless there's two or three deals, you have no negotiating value. Okay,

1779
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 4: So for Paul George, he's got a lot of value.

1780
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 4: Because every I mean mean, listen, you'd be crazy. Probably

1781
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: every NBA team is considered. Okay, Well, we look like

1782
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 4: we had Paul George to the mix. Well, we look

1783
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 4: like we had him to the mix. He's a great

1784
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 4: three and D guy. He's got size, he fits, he scored.

1785
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 4: I thought he had an unbelievable year this season on

1786
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 4: top of being healthy. So hey for for for PG

1787
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: for the league, He's going to be highly sought after.

1788
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that right now.

1789
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: But that's that's the fun part of this, this next

1790
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 2: run in the season is you know, look, I'm all

1791
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: for get every dollar you can and we'll talk all

1792
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: NBA and the Draymond comments that he put out there

1793
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: regarding wealth and NBA players, et cetera, which, if you

1794
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: want to reach folks that have them on your side,

1795
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: probably not the best comments to get to, but it's

1796
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: the idea that you know, I don't begrudge a guy

1797
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: trying to get every dime you can, right you only

1798
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: have a short shelf life. Well for some of these

1799
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 2: guys the much longer shelf life. So maybe the considerations

1800
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 2: change for Lebron James. How much would one more title

1801
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: mean versus adding another? You know, ten million dollars, say,

1802
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: is the difference between what you take and what you

1803
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: could have maxed out at at ten million dollars?

1804
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 5: Is?

1805
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: You know, obviously it's crazy money. Most of us are

1806
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: never touching. But when you're talking about a guy that

1807
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: we regularly associate with the B word in terms of

1808
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: his overall value, I know what you were doing out there, America.

1809
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't go in there. How dare you? When we

1810
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: talk about a billionaire, ten million dollars is a rounding air?

1811
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: You like that? That was good?

1812
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 4: Well, in the NBA world, it is also your value.

1813
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 4: So once you take less, it's hard to get more.

1814
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 4: So you know, it's funny you did bring up those

1815
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 4: Miami days because you know what, those guys all took

1816
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: a little less to find a way to make it work.

1817
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: Well, it got people mad, right, I mean, the union's

1818
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: obviously going to be mad if you do that. Right,

1819
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: Remember people used to complain about Tom Brady and I

1820
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: would laugh. I go, he's one guy. He's the outlier.

1821
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: It's not like you're gonna have fifteen of these highly

1822
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 2: sought after free agent guys that are suddenly all going

1823
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: to go you know what the good strategy is to

1824
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: go less? No, I mean they've all followed lead to

1825
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: sign shorter deals because they can opt out as the

1826
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: TV revenue and all of that kept it increasing, and

1827
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: obviously with the new packages coming in Ryan, it's it's

1828
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna be even crazier. But when we talk about you know,

1829
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 2: Lebron would just be an outlier. So for the Union

1830
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: as a whole, they may grumble a bit and maybe

1831
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: Rich Paul would be mad because that's another house he

1832
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: can't buy or something. But it's just the idea that

1833
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not gonna have a bunch of guys

1834
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 2: following suit.

1835
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I listen, there's always gonna be somebody complaining that.

1836
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 4: That is just the name of the game. At the

1837
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 4: end of the day, it's an arms race. And you know,

1838
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 4: it's a different NBA, man. So if somehow Lebron won

1839
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 4: a championship amongst the most competitive NBA that we have

1840
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 4: ever seen, and when I say the most competitive NBA

1841
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 4: that we have ever seen, man, everybody is good. If

1842
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 4: he finds a way to do that. You talk about

1843
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 4: this goat conversation that might be signed still delivered in

1844
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people's minds. But for him, he'd have

1845
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 4: to have the right team placed around him. A lot

1846
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 4: a lot of things would have to go right. And

1847
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think Lebron James and is in

1848
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 4: a position where he just saying, well, I'm good, I

1849
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 4: don't want to do it anymore. You know, you guys

1850
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 4: got me. I quit. I'm hanging it up. You know

1851
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 4: I've done. I've done. Obviously, the focus is, hey, he

1852
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 4: wants to play with his son. We all know that,

1853
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 4: and we could see that. In my mind, that is

1854
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,839
Speaker 4: it's a little notch on the goat belt. You know,

1855
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 4: you're so good that you're spitting out NBA players. But

1856
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, yes, he wants to

1857
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 4: another championship. Is not something that Lebron James has just

1858
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 4: forgotten or just left on the table.

1859
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 2: Ryan, we'll put a pin in this conversation. We'll get

1860
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: back to the business of the NBA and in a moment,

1861
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: but we've got some breaking news coming from our guy,

1862
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohan.

1863
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Breaking news from Fox Sports.

1864
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 9: The parents of two times PGA Tour winning golfer Grayson Murray,

1865
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 9: who died yesterday morning at the age of thirty, have

1866
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 9: just issued a statement through the PGA Tour announcing that

1867
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 9: the cause of his death was by suicide. The statement reads,

1868
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 9: in part quote, we have spent the last twenty four

1869
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 9: hours trying to come to terms with the fact that

1870
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 9: our son is gone. It's surreal. We not only have

1871
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 9: to admit it to ourselves, but we also have to

1872
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 9: acknowledge it to the world. It's a nightmare. We have

1873
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 9: so many questions that have no answers, but one was

1874
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 9: Grayson loved? The answer is yes, by us, his family,

1875
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 9: by his friends, by his fellow players, and it seems

1876
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 9: by many of you who are reading this he was

1877
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 9: loved and he will be missed. We would like to

1878
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 9: thank the PGA Tour in the entire world of golf

1879
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 9: for the outpouring of support. Life wasn't always easy for Grayson,

1880
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 9: and although he took his own life, we know he

1881
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 9: rests peacefully now unquote again that statement released by Eric

1882
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 9: and Terry Murray, the parents of PGA Tour winning golfer

1883
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 9: Grayson Murray, who died yesterday morning at the age of thirty.

1884
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: Thank you, Iilo.

1885
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: This comes on the heel stan Van Gundy opening up

1886
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: this week about his wife as well. One of those

1887
01:33:55,200 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: that hits I don't know the man, but the idea

1888
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 2: check out your people. It's National Mental Health Aware this month.

1889
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 2: Yesterday I had this hamburglar shirt hunt with it went

1890
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 2: towards a collective where a bunch of the money goes

1891
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: towards researching and helping people.

1892
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 3: So reach out.

1893
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Sorry for the break, just one of those things that

1894
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: hits a bit a little bit differently.

1895
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Mike Carmen.

1896
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 2: We'll continue, We'll get back into the business of the NBA,

1897
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 2: the All NBA Teams, Defensive Player of the Year, all

1898
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: of that.

1899
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 3: We all have our breaking moments, So again, reach out

1900
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 3: to your people. Make sure they're good.

1901
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 2: If nothing else, get them to fight about the Tea

1902
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Wolves and the Mavericks a little later on today, which

1903
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 2: we will do before we finish. Good thoughts to the family, friends, fans,

1904
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: and everybody on the PGA tour. I'm Mike Carmen. He's

1905
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. This is Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

1906
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 2: welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio. It's Fox Sports Sunday.

1907
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Mike Carmen alongside Ryan Hollins. Thanks for being with us,

1908
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 2: giving us a little bit of your day. Memorial Day weekend.

1909
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 2: We've got some PGA going, the Charles Schwab Challenge. We've

1910
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: got F one racing in Monaco. Later on, NASCAR Circuit

1911
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 2: All Stars and all that fun stuff. As we get

1912
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 2: going on another big holiday weekend. Wherever you're going, however

1913
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 2: you're spending it, good thoughts to you all as well.

1914
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Sorry the All Star Race was last week. It's the

1915
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Coca Cola six hundred, as I make the correction in

1916
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: real time later on today though, as we go Ryan

1917
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 2: Hollins trying to find their way back and scratch and

1918
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: claw their way back into the series, and I had

1919
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 2: to use it because it's the Timberwolves down two to

1920
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 2: h as they go to Dallas. We had to talk

1921
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 2: about the Kyrie Irving foul that wasn't well couldn't be overturned,

1922
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: and Luka Danchez obviously had a lot of choice words

1923
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: for Rudy go bear. We're not gonna play it here

1924
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: because I mean, look man, it's Sunday morning. We'll keep

1925
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: it clean. But the Mavericks up two to oh t Wolves,

1926
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: and really this story of a lot of it is

1927
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. Is he hitting a wall? I know that's

1928
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 2: an you know, a really big blanket question. But because

1929
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 2: you're the man with the answers of ten years in

1930
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 2: the league, watching young guys and being a young guy

1931
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 2: in the League yourself. Is it possible that we just

1932
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 2: hit that space.

1933
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where we talk about, you know, taking

1934
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 4: a lot out of you and for them to kit

1935
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 4: past Denver. You know, it's a battle, nutrition, man. They

1936
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 4: had to put everything they had into that game. And

1937
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 4: you're right, at a certain point, Anthony Edwards and those

1938
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: guys just just ran out of gas, and you know,

1939
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: it is tough. And you know, Mike, I do want

1940
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 4: to say something. I didn't get a chance to address it.

1941
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 4: You know, man, You're brave reason I didn't say anything.

1942
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 4: I'm over here choked up. Also from the last segment

1943
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 4: for condolences to the family of the golfer. But over

1944
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 4: here in Houston, in my neighborhood, we got pink ribbons

1945
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 4: around the neighborhood. And the reason we have those pink

1946
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 4: ribbons around the neighborhood is because there is it. I

1947
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 4: don't want to be more of it, but this is

1948
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 4: a reality for those who are listening. A little girl

1949
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: committed suicide. Condolence to her and her family. But man, again,

1950
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 4: I just I want to double down on what you

1951
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 4: said earlier and beautifully said, Mike, Hug your loved ones,

1952
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 4: Hug your family, Hug your kids. Man. These these kids

1953
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 4: go through things that we didn't have to go through

1954
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 4: when we were younger. And the uh, the amount of

1955
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 4: social media and scrutiny and you know, trying to fit in.

1956
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 4: It's it's different, man. We didn't deal with that.

1957
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 3: So again it's animal.

1958
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, huh.

1959
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Back to day, it was go punch, punch the guy

1960
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: on the school yard. Yes, and you got it done.

1961
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Versus Hey, I'm going to be bombarded on social media.

1962
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a pariah all of those kinds

1963
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 2: of things. It's a much different course that are navigating.

1964
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 4: Yep, you punch somebody or you get punched, it goes

1965
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 4: on the internet now and then people are talking about

1966
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 4: you and it ain't just switching schools. It's a big thing.

1967
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 4: So nonetheless, hug your loved ones and I think even

1968
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 4: more focus, man, focus on the people that you have

1969
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 4: in front of you. But back to sports and you know, Mike,

1970
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: very brave, brave you for what you said, man, But

1971
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 4: back to sportsman. Yeah, he's gas man. The kid's never

1972
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 4: been here before. Everything is new, so you're we're all

1973
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 4: pulling for Anthony Edwards. Were excited for what we're seeing

1974
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 4: and then at this point in the playoffs, man, you know, Mike,

1975
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 4: I want to know what you think about this. We've

1976
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 4: seen several times we're like Anthony Edwards hit the ground

1977
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 4: in that Nugget series and he just kind of got

1978
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 4: up gingerly and kept playing.

1979
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 5: Hit this.

1980
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, very physical series.

1981
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean he delivered a number of blows, right, I

1982
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 2: mean that was one of the keys to defending Jamal

1983
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: Murray and why he had You know, he's had so

1984
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: many issues through these series and fighting the officials is

1985
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, they were bumping, they were getting after it

1986
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: at each round. As we know with playoff basketball, they're

1987
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 2: gonna let that much more go. And so he's taken

1988
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: a beating on both ends of the court that maybe

1989
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 2: in the regular season he didn't because you notice, certainly

1990
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 2: in Game one it was more prevalent. Most of his

1991
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: shot attempts were nowhere near the rim. Now, you didn't

1992
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: shoot particularly effective near the rim in Game two, again

1993
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: a lot of physicality got to the line a few

1994
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 2: times late. But the body blows just they add up.

1995
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 2: Even if you're at only twenty.

1996
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 4: Two, you ready for an unpopular opinion. Hit me Potentially

1997
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 4: the reason why Anthony Edwards should not play defense the

1998
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 4: way he does. And the reason I say that is

1999
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 4: because when you defend and you're chasing guys around the

2000
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 4: perimeter and you're doing all that stuff, it beats your

2001
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 4: body up.

2002
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 2: Mike Trout argument Major League Baseball, Right, how many times

2003
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 2: did he crash into walls, died for balls, et cetera.

2004
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 3: That over time? Now, I mean, look at him. He

2005
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 3: can't stay healthy.

2006
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 4: And you know, I know everybody goes Michael Jordan defended.

2007
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 4: He was an NBA defender. He was this the score

2008
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 4: was in the eighties, they scored in the nineties. Anthony

2009
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: Edwards is trying to play defense for one hundred and

2010
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 4: twenty points a gay. Look at the New York next

2011
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 4: They defended like crazy at one hundred and ten point pace.

2012
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 4: That is nearly impossible to do. So, yes, you're seeing

2013
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 4: the young boy. The bodies start to break down, and

2014
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 4: absolutely that is a huge, huge part of it. And

2015
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 4: so now, if you're an organization and the two teams

2016
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 4: I want to call out are the ones in the

2017
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference final, All right, might and come with me.

2018
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 4: He's I don't know if you agree, take me with you.

2019
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 4: Look at Indiana and look at the Celtics. They play

2020
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 4: ten or twelve deep every single night.

2021
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right before you got four minutes in crunch

2022
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 2: time from Doug mcbuckets come.

2023
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 4: On now, minutes big minutes right, four.

2024
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: Minutes from doing McDermott.

2025
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 4: Every night, dude, they're doing that every night. It is,

2026
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 4: so you know, we get it, and that's probably not

2027
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 4: probably that's why they're there. And then what we say

2028
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 4: about the Knicks, how they just warm down.

2029
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 2: Wait, who's who's getting off the bench right half you

2030
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 2: half expected someone to flip a jersey at starks at

2031
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:46,719
Speaker 2: some point.

2032
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and and that that's a huge part of it,

2033
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 4: and not just the huge it. Maybe it may be

2034
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 4: it may be just about all of it, man, but

2035
01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 4: those guys being healthy is a huge, huge, huge part.

2036
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 4: You know. The greatest ability is what you say it

2037
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 4: all the time.

2038
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 3: Availabil ability.

2039
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,799
Speaker 2: You gotta be there, I mean looking guys play injured,

2040
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: all right, Guys play hurt all the time. We know that,

2041
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 2: we stipulate to that a lot of guys don't come

2042
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: into the season healthy, still recovering from an off season

2043
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: surgery and working their way back or whatever the case

2044
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: may be. So we recognize them. But once you're within

2045
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 2: the white lines, guess what you're evaluated by what you're

2046
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 2: putting on tape inside the white lines. And yes, you

2047
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 2: may get a little bit of love from the local media,

2048
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 2: maybe the fans caveat and out a little bit, and

2049
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 2: maybe we'll get into some of those nuanced discussions, but

2050
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 2: let's face it, most of it's reduced to ten second

2051
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 2: sound bursts about how poorly you played here or there,

2052
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 2: and there's no caveats for you know, you had an

2053
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: injury that kept you out ten games here or eight games,

2054
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 2: and you battled back, right. It's the Halliburton thing. He

2055
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 2: was injured before, came back, got reinjured, and here we

2056
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,759
Speaker 2: are as that series goes on but down to nothing

2057
01:42:56,040 --> 01:43:00,600
Speaker 2: and the series moving to Dallas, Lively has been fans fantastic.

2058
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, surname just says it all nine and eleven.

2059
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 2: He was plus nineteen in the one eight, one five victory.

2060
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: Can Luca have some more horcks and more Slovenian talk

2061
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: for Rudy Gobert?

2062
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 4: Oh, listen, man, this I think Rudy.

2063
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 3: Rudy's wearing it right now.

2064
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 4: Man.

2065
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 2: You got guys killing him all across the league.

2066
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 4: Well, poor Rudy man, I feel like he's one of

2067
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 4: the most Like he's one of those guys that's just

2068
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 4: he's a target, man. They target Rudy like no other.

2069
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 4: And you got Draymond on the broadcast just just smashing them.

2070
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,919
Speaker 4: It's just over and over again. But Rudy is a target.

2071
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 4: And there's even there's a clip going around where you know,

2072
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 4: Luca ISO's Rudy for game, you know, or a big

2073
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 4: go ahead kind of bucket in the world games, and

2074
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 4: it's it's a tough go around right now for Rudy Gobert.

2075
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 4: But he's one of those guys. Man. You like the

2076
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 4: trash talking, you know what, it's a it's a part

2077
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 4: of the defensive Player of the Year. It is what

2078
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 4: it is. And you know Rudy, Hey, Rudy's brought a

2079
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 4: lot of it on himself. Many Rudy don't back down.

2080
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't back down. He owned up to not

2081
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 2: being able to make the play. Luca's comment was funny.

2082
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not fast, but I'm a little faster

2083
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 2: than him, So that was good. And obviously insert all

2084
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 2: your favorite cartoon sounds from the sixties and seventies in

2085
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 2: terms of what Rudy's feet were doing. You ever remember

2086
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 2: being put on skates like that?

2087
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 4: He was rare. See. See what I did is I

2088
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 4: could guard the perimeter. I could guard. If I couldn't

2089
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 4: do anything, I could guard the perimeter. So that was

2090
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 4: something that you know, I never had a problem with.

2091
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, ask do you know why he's

2092
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 2: got ten years in the league and he's he's go

2093
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 2: back to uncut gems. He's in there there, I'm your

2094
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 2: agent now than I got it.

2095
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 4: No, I kid you not. In some respects, I would

2096
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 4: I have rather guarded the perimeter than guarded somebody inside.

2097
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was just more natural for me.

2098
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 2: I could move my feet, move the feet and not

2099
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: have to put on the extra fifty pounds to battle

2100
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 2: down low with the same level pretty much.

2101
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I never had the pounds, you know, That's.

2102
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 3: What I mean.

2103
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: Like, I would have loved to see the eating regimen

2104
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: you would have had to be on to try to

2105
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 2: get there.

2106
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 4: Look, I'm about I'm I'm about two seventy right now

2107
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 4: and I've played at two forty. So yeah, I never

2108
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 4: had the pounds, and I played in the NBA where

2109
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 4: I had to Guard, Shack, Right, Duncan and all those yeahs.

2110
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: Different world and look and you and I talked about

2111
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 2: this a couple of weeks ago. People can go back

2112
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 2: and find the podcast Hollins and Harriman, Fox Sports Weekends,

2113
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday talking about the Big Man, that it's

2114
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 2: not dead, it's just evolved to a different state.

2115
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 3: Right now.

2116
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: We just have more guys that can hang around the perimeter,

2117
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 2: stretch you out, et cetera. Which is why we'll get

2118
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 2: to the Wemby conversation here coming up in about ten

2119
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 2: minutes now. But I wanted to play this from Draymond

2120
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 2: Green right because we had the announcement of the All

2121
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: NBA teams. Ryan, And whenever you make the All NBA team,

2122
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: what happens We start talking about funny money and future

2123
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 2: contracts and whatever else. Right, this guy's eligible for three

2124
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 2: ninety six, this guy can get two sixty, whatever the

2125
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 2: case is. And if you get left off now it

2126
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 2: becomes the grumbling of right, who has a grudge against me.

2127
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 2: So that's part of my problem with how we decide

2128
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 2: those I don't begrudge anybody the money. Get what's available

2129
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 2: to you. But Draymond Green in the wake of that,

2130
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 2: had some thoughts on the economics of the game and

2131
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: preparing for the post NBA world.

2132
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 5: The fines to me, don't make sense.

2133
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 13: You know when you talk about as hard as we

2134
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Speaker 13: work to accumulate wealth, coming from situations that most people

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Speaker 13: never make it out, and then you get fined the

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01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 13: way we get fined. It's actually not set up for

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01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 13: us to be wealthy after we're done playing.

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Speaker 5: This job is not set up the way.

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Speaker 13: We're taxed, oh, California, like the way we're taxed, the

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01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 13: way we're fine. Hey, you know you hear about all

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01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 13: all these programs, like this program, this, this program that

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 13: is to cover everybody, this program is to teach this

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01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 13: guy this. But if I do something wrong, I lose

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01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 13: one hundred thousand dollars. Man, it took my mom four

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01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 13: years when I was growing up to make one hundred

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01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 13: thousand dollars and I lose that in the night because

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01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 13: what the brufferee got mad at me and he didn't

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Speaker 13: like what I said to him.

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Speaker 5: So I lose five thousand dollars like that, like on

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Speaker 5: a tech.

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Speaker 2: Well, then again, it goes back to what's collectively bargained

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01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: and fine structures and I don't know how many times

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01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: has Draymond been called to the principal's office there, Ryan,

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01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 2: all right.

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01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play some devil's advocate here. You ready for it?

2156
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 4: Hit me? Okay?

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01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: So so now I knew that you would.

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01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, well here, here's on one side. Here's on

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01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 4: one side. Why are the fines so high? That's that's

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01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 4: a lot of money that gets lost. There's nothing at

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01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 4: Draymond is saying wrong, right, No.

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01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, remember we had a couple of fines

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01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 2: on running backs for blocks last year that pretty much

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01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: cost them their game check in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a problem with that, and that's a lot

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01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 4: And the one thing.

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01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: About talking about shorter shorter lifespans do yeah.

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Speaker 4: The one thing about NBA players that we never do.

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01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 4: Don't count another guy's money. Sure, do not count these guys' money.

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 4: Because this money, let's say, let's just argue, you live

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01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 4: till eighty years old. So whatever he's making, he's got

2172
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 4: to live until he's eighty years old, and then he's

2173
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 4: got to try to find a way to care recreate

2174
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:29,480
Speaker 4: the money, which is Dartner impossible. The reason is Darkner impossible,

2175
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 4: very tough is because you are giving one hundred percent

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01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 4: of your focus to the NBA and once that hundred

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01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 4: percent of your focus to the NBA waivers guess what,

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01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 4: you know, what happens, You lose it and you're out

2179
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 4: the league. You lose focus, you're out the league. You

2180
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 4: are not the same player. So, hey, we're not going

2181
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 4: to question the money. Now. The other side, the devil's

2182
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 4: the advocate side of it is when the league, well,

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01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 4: those techs were what one thousand dollars five hundred dollars

2184
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 4: a pop sheet Wallace's to Rodman's. Those guys didn't care

2185
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 4: about text. It was bad for the game because players

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01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 4: abused it so much. It was just every call was argued,

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01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 4: guys were getting through. It was just like whatever, just

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01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: a dead at the office, right, And for the player's sake, Hey,

2189
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 4: I played, don't get a tech, don't push it, just

2190
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:29,600
Speaker 4: just play the game. Okay, So what side are you on?

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01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 4: I can see both sides because it's part of what

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01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 4: makes Draymond Draymond. But if you're complain about the money,

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01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 4: don't do it. But is it fair enough for the

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01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 4: league to take that much money away from guys? And

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01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 4: Draymond's clearly speaking from his perspective.

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think while he's also lost a lot of

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,839
Speaker 2: money and he's a guy that what's his career earnings?

2198
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 2: Like two hundred million of folks want to go down

2199
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 2: that road, have at it. I just look at it

2200
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 2: from the you know, these are all negotiated structures, right,

2201
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 2: like the way the all NBA works, like the sixty

2202
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,839
Speaker 2: five game threshold to be available, you know, for awards,

2203
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 2: all those things. Your union voted for it. So you

2204
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 2: want to go and fight. Look, Adam Silver generally will

2205
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: rollover if your pet his stomach, if you're a top

2206
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 2: notch NBA player, So why doesn't Lebron go and do that?

2207
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 2: Just say, hey, you know what, we need to look

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 2: out for our guys.

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Speaker 4: I don't think are we wrong here? Trademon's not the

2210
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 4: guy to be saying no.

2211
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. You're you're the wrong guy. Not

2212
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 2: only have you had great success, but that's the the

2213
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 2: other problem with it, though, Ryan, is he has to.

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01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 3: Be the guy to say it. It's that weird.

2215
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 4: You know, well, this is the same weird right that

2216
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 4: Trademond got sent away for the slapping it in people, right,

2217
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 4: you know, you got it you got it.

2218
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 2: So this is not a but that's not the time.

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01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 2: But I don't know that there's anybody else active that

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: can really speak to it that's been affected the same way.

2221
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: When we get to the jock tax or whatever.

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01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: All I can say is go sell something on eBay

2223
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 2: in another state and then we'll start talking about the

2224
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: jock tacks because it applicable, applicable to whomever is selling

2225
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 2: state to state. Right the sales tax, they're coming for

2226
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: you here, you pay the income tax. And luckily for

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01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 2: some guys that's not a consideration at least for half

2228
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: their season because they play in some of the states

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01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: where there's no income tax.

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01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 3: There you go.

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01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 2: But it's a great conversation, Like I love it, and

2232
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure that'll be a leading point. And what makes

2233
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: Draymond Draymond in so many ways, He's Ryan Hollins at

2234
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollendome. Coming out next,

2235
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 2: we'll have another x NBA legend who's got some thoughts

2236
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 2: on how voting went in another award. But first it's

2237
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,799
Speaker 2: our guy, Isaac Lowan Crown. He's got what's trending.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Mike.

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01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 9: A short time ago, The parents of two time PGA

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Speaker 9: Tour winning golfer Grayson Murray, who died yesterday morning at

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01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 9: the age of thirty, issued a statement through the PGA

2242
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 9: Tour announcing that his cause of death was by suicide.

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01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 9: Eric and Terry Murray said on the statement, quote, although

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01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 9: he took his own life, we know he rests peacefully.

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01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 10: Now.

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01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 9: Please honor Grayson by being kind to one another. If

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01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 9: that becomes his legacy, we could ask for nothing else unquote.

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01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 9: On Saturday night, in Game three of the NBA's Eastern

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01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 9: Conference Finals, the Boston Celtics won in Indiana one fourteen

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Speaker 9: to one eleven to take a three games to none lead.

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01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 9: In Game two of the NHL's Western Conference Final on

2252
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 9: Saturday night, the Dallas Stars defeated the Edmonton Oilers three

2253
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 9: to one, tying that series at one win a piece.

2254
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 9: We've got one Major League Baseball game underway. The Tigers,

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01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 9: hosting the Toronto Blue Jays. Toronto failed to score on

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01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 9: the top of the first inning, Detroit coming up now

2257
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 9: in the bottom of the first and coming up at

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 9: twelve forty five Eastern. The greatest spectacle in racing, the

2259
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 9: one hundred and eighth running of the Indianapolis five hundred.

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01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 9: Scott McLoughlin has the poll. Mike and Ryan back to you.

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01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 9: Appreciate you.

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01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: Iilo at Isaac Low and Cron where you find him

2263
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 2: at Ian Roddy for our executive producer, and of course

2264
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 2: at Chris Purfet for all the lay that he's got

2265
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 2: rolling on in the sporting universe as well. Ryan is

2266
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 2: at the Ryan Hollins find me over at Swollen Dome. Positivity, negativity,

2267
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 2: whatever you need to spew. I'm here for you. I

2268
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: got youa Let's get through a Sunday together and enjoy

2269
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,879
Speaker 2: time with our family and friends and all the sporting

2270
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 2: action that is lining up for us today. There's so much,

2271
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: as Isaac laid out as you go through. But coming

2272
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 2: up next, we've got it. Was Awards week and one

2273
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: NBA legend who's tied to a team currently playing had

2274
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: some big thoughts as to the voting process and where

2275
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 2: we need to improve. Talking to you voters next on

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01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 2: Fox taking me away back to win. My sports teams

2277
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 2: were good and mattered and now I want to go

2278
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: charge through a wall. Let's go why Carmen, Ryan Hollins

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01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 2: with you here, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. We

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: appreciate you hanging out with us this morning. Remember that

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 2: the podcast we'll go up on all platforms when we're

2282
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 2: finished here today. If you missed any of the show,

2283
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: check it out search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2284
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 2: your podcast. Be sure to follow rate review the podcast again.

2285
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. You'll

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01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 2: see this show Fox Sports Sunday, Hollins and Harmon as

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01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: soon as Ian can get it up with his mits

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01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 2: on the service here. It'll be posted right after we

2289
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 2: get off the air. All right, So we've got a

2290
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 2: final out of Monaco. There, Ryan Hollins, we already have

2291
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: a race finished, and now they're spraying champagne at each other.

2292
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 2: So much wasted good champagne. Mimosa's for everyone. Charles Leclerc

2293
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 2: with the Wyn Pastree second signs third, Lando Norris, who's

2294
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 2: become my daughter's favorite after watching that F one docu series.

2295
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 2: She'll be excited to know that Lando finished fourth. And

2296
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 2: there we have it fifth. For those that you might

2297
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: have had some kind of exotic bet, George Russell finishes

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01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 2: thirty me Mercedes in the fifth spot. See we got

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01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 2: live sporting action to start a Sunday, Ryan Hollins, if

2300
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: you want to talk about propelling yourself towards a great day,

2301
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's as good as it gets. We get

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: a game three later on, Minnesota, go steal one in Dallas?

2303
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 2: Or is it the march for Luca and company?

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01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 4: Nia. I think they get one. I don't think they're

2305
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 4: just gonna go and get swept, but man, they are fatigued.

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01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 3: Ya, You're gonna get himself benched again.

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01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 4: We talked about this with Minnesota before, and they're in

2308
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 4: that tough space where you can't have both those guys

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01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 4: on the floor. And what happened was when you have

2310
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 4: Cat in, what happens is the weak side gets horrible.

2311
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 4: And what's tough for Cat is to take away the

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01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 4: layup and take away the three. And Luca is such

2313
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 4: a great passer. While he's running the pick and roll,

2314
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 4: he's just watching Cat's eyes and as soon as Cat hesitates,

2315
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 4: he's throwing a ball in there for layups or he's

2316
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,879
Speaker 4: whipping it over over for an open three. Derek Jones Jr.

2317
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 4: Can beat you? Uh, those guys are PJ. Washington can

2318
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 4: beat you, and they proved it. Just asked Oklahoma City,

2319
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 4: so The answer is you gotta put Cat at the

2320
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 4: five and now Kats in pick and roll. So you

2321
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 4: know there is a system that is being built over there,

2322
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 4: that's built that is really tough to play against, and

2323
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 4: it it has those guys absolutely struggling right now.

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01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 3: He's Ryan Hollins on Mike Carmon.

2325
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 2: Now, let's get to a guy who's had some success

2326
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 2: last tide right back of the celtics last title run up,

2327
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 2: the great Kevin Garnett. He had some thoughts on the

2328
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 2: award season and particularly Defensive Player of the Year.

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01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 5: A defensive play.

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01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, listen, he said that much.

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01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 13: Oh he was a roogman if you prove job, did

2332
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 13: you get the job right?

2333
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 5: That he should have did the end?

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01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 13: We ain't seeing that type of effect on the defensive thesis.

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01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 5: Hope, who's affected? Man, David Robinson? When you can come

2336
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 5: out the gamba?

2337
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 4: Who who got the rim? Like that? Bro?

2338
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 5: Were you coming there? And you just don't turn around?

2339
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 4: Hey? Nine and a half of.

2340
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Don't don't you feel me?

2341
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 5: I think to call him this year? Also whatever, Actually

2342
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 5: Joe was another level.

2343
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 13: But man with me Manu Fakin putting a man came in.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was sweet nah oh tripping. All right,

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Speaker 5: there you go.

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Speaker 3: There's the long, long cut of it. Just to really emphasize,

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Speaker 3: you got ball Pierce.

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Speaker 2: Saying, I've been telling you and KG a former defensive

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01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: player of the Year, how do you only win one?

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other question for another time. I guess

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01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 2: Jakemba Matumbo might be the answer for some of that.

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01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 2: They're Ryan, but the idea, rookie, hey, earn your stripes.

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01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 2: I know that team wasn't good, they didn't really advance

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Speaker 2: in the win column, but there's no denying the impact

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Speaker 2: that he had.

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Speaker 4: He should have got it right, I mean, he should

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01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 4: have gotten dry. Well, here's the thing. Rudy can't guard

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 4: the perimeter like Wimby and that we've seen him guard

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01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 4: James Harden the perimeter. Steph Curry, Like you have teams

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01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 4: changing their entire strategies for what he brings to the table.

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01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 4: You got, guys, you got like there's like you know,

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01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 4: they're even scared to shoot floaters over him. Okay, that's

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01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 4: how dynamic he is. Hands down, in my opinion, should

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01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 4: have been defensive play of the Year. And then it

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01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 4: was insane. Do you know how listen, I was a

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Speaker 4: shop blocker in the NBA. You know how hard it is.

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01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 4: Do you know how hard it is to like, ain't

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 4: somebody shot? You know how impossible that is to just

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Speaker 4: get a block shot, even when you're a shot blocker

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Speaker 4: and they know you're going to block the shot. I mean,

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:13,839
Speaker 4: this was like nerf hoop basketball that we were watching, Okay,

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01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 4: and it was just in the backyard with your kids

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01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 4: play ball, like so he should have been Defensive Player

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Speaker 4: of the Year. Obviously, Minnesota had the team's success. I

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01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 4: understand that Rudy's had it several times. But the impact

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Speaker 4: on the game. So when we have a scheme for

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01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 4: a game plan, right, we'll say, okay, you know we

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01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 4: want to move the basketball, they don't move well, or

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01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 4: hey you know focus inside. You know, hey, this is

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01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 4: he's a part of the game plan, like, hey, get

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01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 4: in the Peyton shot, fake, no go away.

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Speaker 2: From But I will say this, no, Ryan, to close

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Speaker 2: it up after that Lucas shot, he ain't winning again.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins enjoyed the series and the holiday. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: you appreciate our squad. Dan and Gary coming up next

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Speaker 2: year on Fox Sports Radio