Speaker 1: Hey, Christy, Hey Will, how are you. I'm super jazzed
Speaker 1: about our guest today. I am too. Who is it?
Speaker 1: It's Dad pov and Meyer, the legend, the icon, the
Speaker 1: phideous and creator amongst so many amazing things. Doesn't he
Speaker 1: also have like nine trillion followers on the TikTok machines.
Speaker 1: He is many things, and we're going to get into
Speaker 1: it today. On I hear voices, all right, what's up, Dan,
Speaker 1: We are excited to have you. When I hear work,
Speaker 1: we get right into it. But like you know, here
Speaker 1: we are. I don't know that that I've met Will.
Speaker 1: He looks like like I might have met him. He
Speaker 1: looks like vaguely familiar to have. That's how I thought
Speaker 1: about it with you as well. I think we've done
Speaker 1: something together in the past at some at some point,
Speaker 1: I would imagine that at least been at the same
Speaker 1: party or something at some point. Yes, I actually we
Speaker 1: were probably on a yacht with for Michael uh wait,
Speaker 1: Kevin Michael Richardson. Kevin Michael Richardson's uh part Okay, So
Speaker 1: then we absolutely were. Yes, that is exactly yes, I
Speaker 1: think that's where we probably met. Yes, yes, for our
Speaker 1: everybody Kevin. Michael Richardson is oh I love that man,
Speaker 1: Michael Richardson in the voice of everybody, and he'll be
Speaker 1: on at some point. But I also think I did
Speaker 1: a Phineas and Ferb back in the day oh excellence.
Speaker 1: So you probably you may have met Swampy because because
Speaker 1: I would usually only come in on the days that
Speaker 1: I was recording, because I was I was back doing
Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff and Swampy was running the recording.
Speaker 1: So who did you do on Phineas? Yeah, that well,
Speaker 1: I I honestly can't remember we were doing. I think
Speaker 1: we might have. Didn't we do some kind of kimpossible
Speaker 1: thing with Phineas and Ferb, well not not verbally, not
Speaker 1: believe we did, for they had that Spot the Difference
Speaker 1: episodes where where we would add visual things to stuff
Speaker 1: and play them and to see if kids could could
Speaker 1: spot anything like and we put kimpossible into a shot
Speaker 1: that you know, like like we've got some assets from
Speaker 1: one of the Impossible shows. And I'm sure we also
Speaker 1: did some sort of like promo crossover kind of thing
Speaker 1: where it's you know, it's like hi, run and this
Speaker 1: is Phineas and like that kind of stuff. There were.
Speaker 1: There were thousands of those and continue to be. And
Speaker 1: one thing I will say is Dan Phineas and took
Speaker 1: over the Epcot ride impossible, and we were okay with
Speaker 1: it because we were going to give it to anybody.
Speaker 1: We were happy to give it. They just took down.
Speaker 1: They just took down the Phineas and Ferb version of
Speaker 1: that at Upcot. Yeah, did you like two months ago
Speaker 1: or something. Well, it wasn't even a ride. It was
Speaker 1: sort of like a go around and and follow these
Speaker 1: instructions kind of. I never played it all the way through,
Speaker 1: but I played like a section of it when they
Speaker 1: were putting it together. Swampy and I went out and
Speaker 1: did some press out there, and uh, And they've told
Speaker 1: me that they're sending me one of the Doofenschmart sculpts
Speaker 1: from from the park, which I'm so excited about. But
Speaker 1: like they told me this like a month ago, and
Speaker 1: so I'm like constantly looking because it looks like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like four ft tall, and I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: I keep looking for a big box and it it
Speaker 1: has not come yet. I I hope they remember, you know,
Speaker 1: Like they got my address and everything at the corner
Speaker 1: of my office. He's just going to be like standing
Speaker 1: at your driveway one day. So I have a question
Speaker 1: because you only come in, Uh, you only come were
Speaker 1: going in there when you were recording your character. Because
Speaker 1: you're doing double and triple and quadruple duty on finn
Speaker 1: Us and verbs, so I'm doing a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: you create, you co created the show. You were I'm sure,
Speaker 1: writing on the show, producing the show, helping with every
Speaker 1: aspect of the show, and doing character voices. Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I was the show runner and also writing
Speaker 1: songs for the show and also doing doing you know,
Speaker 1: I basically would do doofin Schwirtz and then like two
Speaker 1: other incidentals if we needed incidentals. There were only I
Speaker 1: did climp Baloon, this weird magical you know, recurring character.
Speaker 1: It was a magical old timey bathing suit that lived
Speaker 1: in the Himalayas for some reason. But otherwise I was
Speaker 1: just I was just defin Schwirtz. But but I was,
Speaker 1: you know, making notes on boards. I designed the characters.
Speaker 1: I was. I was directing first season until what I
Speaker 1: made them higher some of the directors, so I didn't
Speaker 1: also have to do that. But I was back doing,
Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of the day to day
Speaker 1: work of just making all those decisions and stuff for
Speaker 1: the for the show and reach. I'm I'm a bit
Speaker 1: a d D. So it's second hyper focus on a
Speaker 1: bunch of things at a time if I like them all,
Speaker 1: can we can we go back to the beginning of
Speaker 1: of your career in animation and just what got you
Speaker 1: into the world of animation, What attracted you to this
Speaker 1: this incredible business of show. You know, you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny because because when I was I was applying to college,
Speaker 1: as I applied to to Cal Arts and to USC
Speaker 1: and uh and cal and I sent in a bunch
Speaker 1: of my artwork along with you know, with other things
Speaker 1: for my portfolio. I sent some some actual art because
Speaker 1: I was a professional artist when I was like twelve,
Speaker 1: and uh and I was this weird. I was like
Speaker 1: a child prodigy kid as as an illustrator and uh
Speaker 1: and I sent in some artwork for for them and
Speaker 1: uh and they sent me back a thing. And I
Speaker 1: was but I was applying to the live action film
Speaker 1: department at Cal Arts and they said, uh, and they
Speaker 1: sent me a thing that said, we don't We're not
Speaker 1: making decision on the live action department for you know,
Speaker 1: for a while yet. But we did show some of
Speaker 1: your artwork to the animation department and they said they
Speaker 1: will take you right now, but that you'll get an
Speaker 1: early admittance if you want to go into animation. And
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to go into animation. And
Speaker 1: I threw that letter away and I went and uh
Speaker 1: and and I ended up going to USC and never
Speaker 1: got into that film school either, but I took nothing
Speaker 1: but film classes and then I dropped out and UH
Speaker 1: and I was just looking for work to you know,
Speaker 1: to keep the power on and uh and they they
Speaker 1: were looking for a storyboard artists on Teenage Mutant Ninja
Speaker 1: Turtles in the eighties, the original Teenage Muting. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I I understand filmmaking and I can draw.
Speaker 1: I should go and apply for that. And so I
Speaker 1: applied for that and UH and I did UH storyboard
Speaker 1: clean up for them for for like a year or so,
Speaker 1: just freelance, like every week they would give me a
Speaker 1: new one. And I'm making good money. And then UH,
Speaker 1: I went in in the house and did and work
Speaker 1: on uh the UH Toxic Crusaders and James Bond Jr.
Speaker 1: And UH. And then when that was drying up suddenly,
Speaker 1: you know, like that they didn't have other shows for
Speaker 1: a while, and so I was out of work for
Speaker 1: for a while, and I had let all my freelance
Speaker 1: art stuff go, you know, like like sort of followed
Speaker 1: by the wayside then and there was like six months
Speaker 1: where I didn't work at all, and I was down
Speaker 1: to my last like two or three hundred dollar ers
Speaker 1: in the bank, which was gonna be rent next you know,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I really need to get something
Speaker 1: going and UH and UH, and I took it, and
Speaker 1: I applied to the Simpsons and I applied to UH,
Speaker 1: applied to the Simpsons and I and I got hired
Speaker 1: to write a low budget slasher movie on this in
Speaker 1: the same week. And the Simpsons says, said, UH, said well,
Speaker 1: we'll hire you. Come on in and draw here. And
Speaker 1: so I was going in during the day and drawing,
Speaker 1: and at night I would go I would come home,
Speaker 1: I would have dinner, I would I would get up
Speaker 1: and I would start writing this script to for this
Speaker 1: little bit low budget slasher movie. Untill ten o'clock, eleven o'clock,
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock at night. I'd go to sleep, i'd wake up,
Speaker 1: I'd go into work again. And I did that for
Speaker 1: two weeks. And then I had a a movie that
Speaker 1: was gonna get made that I had written the script for,
Speaker 1: and and I was told that I could direct it,
Speaker 1: but they would only be able to pay me this
Speaker 1: amount of money. And I was working at The Simpsons
Speaker 1: and making at least that in the next month, and
Speaker 1: then I was going to continue to work months and
Speaker 1: months and months, and and I realized I would have
Speaker 1: to quit the Simpsons to go and direct this little
Speaker 1: budget slasher movie. And and I suddenly realized that all
Speaker 1: the time I had spent in live action I had
Speaker 1: I didn't really necessarily feel a kinship to the people
Speaker 1: in live action. I didn't feel like those were my people.
Speaker 1: And uh, and it was actually a party at Swampy's house,
Speaker 1: my my uh, my partner on Phineas and ferb was
Speaker 1: another artist on The Simpsons, and he was throwing a party.
Speaker 1: And my my first wife was was an actress and
Speaker 1: and and I was trying to get her to come
Speaker 1: to this party with him, and she was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go to an industry party.
Speaker 1: And I was I was like, let's just go. We'll
Speaker 1: make it a point, we will just make an appearance.
Speaker 1: And these are a bunch of people I'm working with them,
Speaker 1: and say, okay, we'll go. And we went and we
Speaker 1: had a great time. And nobody quoted their resume to me.
Speaker 1: Nobody like, you know, like nobody got a glassy I'd
Speaker 1: look and start turned away if they didn't feel they
Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't help their career or anything like that.
Speaker 1: And it was just a bunch of people hanging out
Speaker 1: and having a great time. And we got in the
Speaker 1: car and my wife was was was like, you know
Speaker 1: what that was? That was an actual party. I haven't
Speaker 1: been an actual party in like ten years in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I've never never been to it. Like that was great.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I think these are my peeps.
Speaker 1: I think this is you know, and so I so
Speaker 1: I turned down the gig on the on the Slasher movie,
Speaker 1: you know, directing it, and I just stayed at The Simpsons.
Speaker 1: And then from the Simpsons, I ended up uh going
Speaker 1: to a Brocco's Modern Life over a Nickelodeon, which they needed.
Speaker 1: They needed people who could write and draw, and I
Speaker 1: had done a comic strip, UH for daily comics strip
Speaker 1: at USC at the for the for the school at
Speaker 1: USC for the time I was there, and I had,
Speaker 1: you know, so hundreds of things that I had written
Speaker 1: and drawn, and I came in and handed it to
Speaker 1: Roger Chassan, who was the supervising director who had animated
Speaker 1: Jessica Rabbit for the for the movie back in the day.
Speaker 1: And if I had known that, I would have been
Speaker 1: a lot more more nervous. Nervous would have been like
Speaker 1: but but I handed him like a book of my
Speaker 1: comic strip and he laughed, laughed at the first like
Speaker 1: three pages and said, Okay, you're hired. And it was
Speaker 1: like the easiest job interview I've had. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: So wait, I have to I have to ask you
Speaker 1: a question because there's so much there that I you
Speaker 1: could do an entire show and the justice stories you told,
Speaker 1: because first of all, I have to start with because
Speaker 1: you glossed over this very quickly a professional artist at
Speaker 1: twelve years old. At twelve years old, I was doing
Speaker 1: all the juried art shows in the Deep South where
Speaker 1: I grew up in Alabama, and UH, and there were
Speaker 1: a bunch of art shows in that whole area where
Speaker 1: you had you had to to uh send in slides
Speaker 1: of your work, but you didn't have to send in
Speaker 1: a picture of yourself. They would decide whether you were
Speaker 1: good enough to go into these art shows and binding
Speaker 1: and they would always pick me. They would always like
Speaker 1: approve me, and I would show up and they would like,
Speaker 1: so it is your father the artist. No, no, it's
Speaker 1: and they would do like like stories on me in
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the paper. And I got,
Speaker 1: you know, like the the Atlanta Institute of the Art
Speaker 1: or whatever that's that's called in Atlanta was really trying
Speaker 1: to recruit me to come to their their art department
Speaker 1: and stuff. But I was making good money for for
Speaker 1: a twelve you know, like like for a teenager who's
Speaker 1: not able to pay rent. I would go to these
Speaker 1: art shows and make fifteen hundred dollars in a weekend.
Speaker 1: And I was doing that a bunch of times in
Speaker 1: the in the year, and uh and like the there's
Speaker 1: a magazine that the San Diego Zoo puts out that's
Speaker 1: uh that I sent them some art and they and
Speaker 1: they and they paid me to use one of their
Speaker 1: things on the cover. And I was just doing a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of that, and I and with
Speaker 1: those proceeds, I bought a super eight camera and movie
Speaker 1: projector with a sound on sound thing where I, you know,
Speaker 1: where I can make little movies, because that's what I
Speaker 1: really wanted to do, was make movies. This is where
Speaker 1: I find your journey very interesting, because we will eventually
Speaker 1: get to how he isn't obviously an icon, but an
Speaker 1: icon in the whole TikTok world. Right now, he's million followers.
Speaker 1: That is not something to down. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: people to be paying attention to what I do. But
Speaker 1: what I find so interesting is that a man, a
Speaker 1: legend such as yourself, I understand your pain about loving
Speaker 1: film and cinema and taking the classes. I went to
Speaker 1: Columbia for that. I was waitlisted at a f I
Speaker 1: I couldn't get in. I tried twice. I tried to
Speaker 1: get into their women's program for directing. I was waitlisted
Speaker 1: because of their silly little reasons whatever. I get it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, our business it is so
Speaker 1: weird about who it lets in the gate keeping. It's
Speaker 1: so strange, like you could have the most obvious amount
Speaker 1: of like talent, enthusiasm, professionalism and it just doesn't go
Speaker 1: in your direction, and and and you know, it just
Speaker 1: just really encouraging that you were, you know, rejected. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to say so many people are fans of yours,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they know that about your story,
Speaker 1: that you know that that was maybe in a multiverse
Speaker 1: you're Scorsese somewhere. Yeah, it's possible, but you have to
Speaker 1: see in the animation world, you know, I've done very
Speaker 1: well and and I you end up finding the thing
Speaker 1: that you're really meant to do. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason I threw away that
Speaker 1: that that cal Arts letter was because at the time,
Speaker 1: at that time, that was like the Dark Cauldron days.
Speaker 1: That's where nothing good was happening in animation. Disney wasn't
Speaker 1: Disney was doing Oliver and Company. And you know, like
Speaker 1: there were there were no classic animated things happening in
Speaker 1: TV was all like like the care Bears or Transformers.
Speaker 1: It's all stuff based onto you know, like, so there
Speaker 1: was nothing cool happening in animation. By the time I
Speaker 1: got into animation, the Simpsons had happened, and suddenly that
Speaker 1: was cool and and uh and ran and stimpy and
Speaker 1: and Batman the animated series, and and then Little Mermaid.
Speaker 1: There was this whole second renaissance in animation. So suddenly
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, no, I can do all the
Speaker 1: things that I do in animation. I can, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's what I do, like, you know, like for
Speaker 1: a living. Now. I draw silly pictures, I write stupid stories,
Speaker 1: I talk in silly voices, and I write stupid songs,
Speaker 1: which are all the things that I would be doing
Speaker 1: if I was unemployed. I would just nobody would be
Speaker 1: paying me to do them. It's all I would be
Speaker 1: at home doing by myself. So well, that's also the
Speaker 1: joy of our industry though. It's what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like if you want to be a doctor and you're
Speaker 1: rejected from medical school, you can't walk away and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go try it anyway. Yes,
Speaker 1: as industry exactly, but entertainment industry you get. You hear
Speaker 1: stories all the time, the Quentin Tarantinos, the Dan's, all
Speaker 1: these people where it's like I got rejected, so I went,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do it anyway, and they become huge successes.
Speaker 1: So it is one of the few industries in the
Speaker 1: world where you don't need the education. If you have
Speaker 1: the talent and the drive and everything else you can
Speaker 1: do um. If you just have the will to go
Speaker 1: out and make it happen, you can make it happen.
Speaker 1: Now you're still it's still winning the lottery, I mean,
Speaker 1: the chances of it happening are are slim. But you
Speaker 1: then get people like Dan who say, Okay, well you
Speaker 1: said no to me here, I'm gonna go find a
Speaker 1: different avenue and become hugely successful over here. And and
Speaker 1: also it's much easier, I you know, like I think
Speaker 1: the reason that I found this a better way to
Speaker 1: get in is because you can show Like somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't draw doesn't think they can draw, someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: write or doesn't direct, thinks they could write or direct.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: people think they can write because they can spell. So
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's like, oh, I would be
Speaker 1: able to do that if I just sat down and
Speaker 1: thought about it. So so you don't fight against that
Speaker 1: thing where where people who are there to hire you
Speaker 1: sort of feel like they could do it do it
Speaker 1: as well. Also, somebody who doesn't write can't read a
Speaker 1: script and tell you whether it's any good because they
Speaker 1: don't get what's good or bad about it. But somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't draw and look at the drawing and say,
Speaker 1: that looks like what it's supposed to look like. So
Speaker 1: so to me, it's like the fact that I could
Speaker 1: sort of draw anything you put in front of me.
Speaker 1: I've always been able to change styles to whatever show
Speaker 1: I'm on and stuff. It's loving that the fact that
Speaker 1: I was able to just go, oh, you wanted drawn
Speaker 1: like that, Okay, I'll do this. They were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well you're hired. That's it's an easier way to get work.
Speaker 1: I think if because it's a it's a more distract
Speaker 1: demonstrable talent. I think, who are the artists that inspired you?
Speaker 1: Dan or Um? It really sort of all starts and
Speaker 1: stops with Chuck Jones, and there's a lot of others,
Speaker 1: but he's the one that I that I that like,
Speaker 1: every frame that I've seen that's drawn by Chuck Jones
Speaker 1: just makes me go, oh, that's the perfect you know, like,
Speaker 1: and that's what I would always try to do when
Speaker 1: I was when I was you know, when I was boarding,
Speaker 1: which I don't do as much of now. I boarded
Speaker 1: the pilot to the to the to the new show
Speaker 1: in the in the first episode. But but when whenever
Speaker 1: I would be like working on a visual gag, I
Speaker 1: would just put post it's over post its over post
Speaker 1: its and try to like keep pushing the pose until
Speaker 1: it was perfect. Like, Okay, if I go any further,
Speaker 1: it's not going gonna be good anymore. This is right
Speaker 1: where it has has to be. And I just was
Speaker 1: always trying to trying to um channel Chuck Jones when
Speaker 1: I when I drew and and as far as visual storytelling,
Speaker 1: I was always trying to channel Miyazaki, who I got
Speaker 1: to meet. I got to meet Chuck Jones in a
Speaker 1: book signing once but which was cool. Uh And and
Speaker 1: then I got to meet Miyazaki in his studio in Japan,
Speaker 1: which was like one of these really really cool moments
Speaker 1: I got to I was actually in Howe's Moving Castle
Speaker 1: and that was that was that's what they were making
Speaker 1: when I when I went to the studio, getting to
Speaker 1: go in and do some of the I think I
Speaker 1: did three characters for the English dub was was really cool.
Speaker 1: And Jason mars And who's has been a guest on
Speaker 1: the show, and is my best friend growing up was
Speaker 1: actually the lead in Spirited Away. Very cool. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about how he booked that entire role from
Speaker 1: his closet, right story you hear those, but yeah, you
Speaker 1: do you I mean again, I imagine it would be
Speaker 1: like any other medium where you know, there are the
Speaker 1: people that do it, and then then there are people
Speaker 1: that do it well, and then there are people that
Speaker 1: do it so well, but other people just like yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: but and that's one of those. I felt that the
Speaker 1: way the first time I saw a Kira where it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is what anime and animation could be. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not because I grew up on all the shows
Speaker 1: you were talking about, which when you're eight years old, Thundercatch, Transformers,
Speaker 1: g I Joe, they were the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: But then you get a little older and you watch
Speaker 1: the first episode of Batman in the animated series, and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, wait, everything's different now. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you've got those. Okay, so you get a call, Hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to come in to work on a
Speaker 1: little show called the Simpsons. Now what was the Simpsons?
Speaker 1: When you joined up? It was cool because I loved
Speaker 1: them on The Tracy Ullman Show. And then when I
Speaker 1: heard they were doing that, I actually applied to them
Speaker 1: way early and got turned down like I didn't define well,
Speaker 1: I didn't have any studio experience. It was before I
Speaker 1: was on The Ninja Turtles, and I've never worked in
Speaker 1: a studio, and they were just a little a little
Speaker 1: scared about it. Um, I applied. The time they took
Speaker 1: me was was second season and I and UH and
Speaker 1: and I went in. So I had already seen first
Speaker 1: season and fallen in love with it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this is a show I really want to
Speaker 1: work on. So you're a fan already by the time
Speaker 1: you were on that second season. They gave me, they
Speaker 1: gave me a drawing test and then you know, like
Speaker 1: before I had just taken in like like this far
Speaker 1: Out Man Hippie Land amusement sequence I did for Tommy
Speaker 1: Chong's movie for it was it was his first movie
Speaker 1: without Cheech. It was called Far Out Man, and I
Speaker 1: did this psychedelic animation was like the first actual animation
Speaker 1: gig that that I had done, and and UH and
Speaker 1: I took that and showed them that and when I
Speaker 1: look at it, now it's like, I understand why they
Speaker 1: didn't take me, because you know, it's it's like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't look like the Simpsons. Doesn't know. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of things I was doing wrong back then and stuff.
Speaker 1: But but later on they were like, well, let's see
Speaker 1: if you can do the Simpsons, and I drew them.
Speaker 1: They were like, okay, you're at your end. So did
Speaker 1: you have a lit agent or no? No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't have an agent till Disney called me a
Speaker 1: year after turning down Phineas and Ferb. They called me
Speaker 1: out of the blue and said, I know this is
Speaker 1: out of the blue, but we want to option Phineas
Speaker 1: and B. And I was like okay. They were like,
Speaker 1: so just give it. Give us the name of your agent,
Speaker 1: and Will are like, well, I better get an agent.
Speaker 1: That was that was how I how I got an agent.
Speaker 1: Everything else, I find all these applications like, because I've
Speaker 1: noticed that you really like proactive about finding you would
Speaker 1: think so I sort of feel like most of that
Speaker 1: just sort of happened to me, like someone would say, hey,
Speaker 1: I saw an ad for this. I was not looking
Speaker 1: through stuff looking for ads. It was just people that
Speaker 1: I knew said you can draw right, you should do this?
Speaker 1: You know that? Yeah. Literally, the first my first animation
Speaker 1: gig with Tommy Chong was was me at home on
Speaker 1: a Sunday, just eating cereal and a friend of mine
Speaker 1: calling Dan, you you can do animation right, And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I took that one animation classic college.
Speaker 1: And they said and she said, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give somebody your number, and they're like two phone calls later,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tommy Chong was like, hey, man, I
Speaker 1: hear you're a great animator. And I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: that that that's me. That's the entertainment industry. The entertainment
Speaker 1: industry is fake. Get till you make it. Say yes
Speaker 1: to whatever they ask. Can you play the drums? Sure can?
Speaker 1: And then yes? And so you go into the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: You sit down and you are deskmates with your future partner. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: he's right across the aisle from me. There's like there's
Speaker 1: like there was like this huge bullpen of just just
Speaker 1: uh you know, cubicles as far as that I could
Speaker 1: see on the on the bottom floor and uh and
Speaker 1: and we were both on the aisle and so we
Speaker 1: we got to know each other. That way, and did
Speaker 1: you hit it off right away? And you know you
Speaker 1: had the same kind of animation background, you knew all
Speaker 1: that kind of it was like, oh this this could
Speaker 1: be something here. Yeah. No, No, we had a great time.
Speaker 1: And actually, uh, he's the one that got me, that
Speaker 1: got me to come and apply to Rocco because that
Speaker 1: we were getting laid off. And I was like, so
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. I've already got a lot
Speaker 1: work lined up Nickelodeon I show called Rocko. You should
Speaker 1: you should go apply? All right, you know there's another woe.
Speaker 1: Somebody just said you should have I for this. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will. And then then I got it. And then
Speaker 1: we got put together as a writing team. And that's
Speaker 1: where the magic really started happening. We just had a
Speaker 1: great time writing together and just you know, like like
Speaker 1: just sort of like finishing each other's sentences in funnier
Speaker 1: and funnier ways. And so where did where did this? Eventually?
Speaker 1: I want to get into obviously how Phineas and FIRB
Speaker 1: came about and all that kind of stuff, But where
Speaker 1: did you go from this to doing voice over? I mean,
Speaker 1: were you doing the voices of the characters that you're
Speaker 1: kind of animating, whether it's The Simpsons or whatever, you're
Speaker 1: kind of throwing the voices out. Where are we were?
Speaker 1: We were. I would always pitch, you know, pitch gags,
Speaker 1: and especially at Nickelodeon, you're writing the show. So the
Speaker 1: first time anybody here's sees the show, the executives see
Speaker 1: the show, you're just pitching it to them. And Swampy
Speaker 1: and I were both came from performance backgrounds. I was
Speaker 1: I did a lot of uh of theater, you know,
Speaker 1: through through through college and out of college, I made
Speaker 1: a being doing dinner theater for a while and uh
Speaker 1: and uh, and I was also in a band. I
Speaker 1: did a lot of performing and Swampy was the same.
Speaker 1: And so we were, you know, like which is very
Speaker 1: unusual for animators to be also outgoing, you know, extroverts,
Speaker 1: and it makes us real outliers. But we would go
Speaker 1: into the pitch and have a great time pitching and
Speaker 1: get the get the executives just laughing all the way through.
Speaker 1: We could really just work a room and and I
Speaker 1: think that's really what set us apart with like like
Speaker 1: one of the other board artists once found it, like,
Speaker 1: so how'd your pitch go? And it's like they laughed
Speaker 1: in all the right places in these they they laughed
Speaker 1: like out loud. Well, yes, they like and then we
Speaker 1: realized that a lot of them were just working there. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then this guy does this this and he says
Speaker 1: this under and they were reading and we were performing
Speaker 1: it and you know, and sometimes we write songs for
Speaker 1: for episodes and you know, and I bring my guitar
Speaker 1: rim and we would play and sing the song as
Speaker 1: as we were going. Uh so yeah, so so so
Speaker 1: that was so so for Phineas and ferb which was
Speaker 1: the first show that I that I created, I exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, they ordered this pilot and they were asking
Speaker 1: and so, when when do you want to try to
Speaker 1: get the script? And I said, well, I'd rather not
Speaker 1: do a script. I'd rather write it and draw it
Speaker 1: at the same time, because there's two characters in here
Speaker 1: who barely talk, and I think you won't get it otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like and uh and so uh so
Speaker 1: I boarded that whole first episode, the roller coaster episode,
Speaker 1: while I was on vacation in France with my wife's family,
Speaker 1: and we would all go out to the uh the
Speaker 1: museums at the day or go down to the riviera
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell we were doing, you know, and
Speaker 1: then we've come back at uh at like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: seven or eight at night, they'd make dinner at this
Speaker 1: villa that that my mother in law had rented, and
Speaker 1: then everybody would go to sleep and I would stay
Speaker 1: up and start drawing and writing the roller coaster episode.
Speaker 1: And then uh. And then Swampy was living in England
Speaker 1: at the time, and I and I and I, so
Speaker 1: we went by England for a couple of days and
Speaker 1: he and I just put it out and just punched
Speaker 1: it up and change, you know, like like did whatever
Speaker 1: rewrites we wanted to do. And then I just pitched
Speaker 1: it to them and they'd never had that happen. They'd
Speaker 1: never had had an episode just pitched to them. And
Speaker 1: I'm good in a room, So I made everybody laugh,
Speaker 1: and then the head of the channel. I pitched it
Speaker 1: to the studio guy. And then the head of the
Speaker 1: channel heard how much fun this pitch was and wanted
Speaker 1: me to come and pitched to him and I got
Speaker 1: to Gary. Yeah, Gary, Gary, we were I just had
Speaker 1: lunch with Gary just after him. He looks much more
Speaker 1: relaxed now. He's doing great. He's got he's got his
Speaker 1: top button unbuttoned. In an industry where where studio presidents
Speaker 1: change everything three months, he he was there forever the
Speaker 1: channel for years through Yeah, through all the best stuff.
Speaker 1: He's the one that we made. It was a great
Speaker 1: guy episode. Yeah, so Phineas and Ferb is created internationally.
Speaker 1: You had to take the chunnel to actually finish the peas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically basically, and uh and we you know, And so
Speaker 1: I pitched it that way, and then other people wanted
Speaker 1: to see a pitched and stuff, and my executive said, okay,
Speaker 1: we also have to show this to Disney UK. Uh
Speaker 1: should we write up a script now or should we
Speaker 1: just send them on the boards? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: neither is going to have the effect of me actually
Speaker 1: pitching it. So I got in a room. I said,
Speaker 1: I said, tell you what, there's a there's a microphone
Speaker 1: in the casting room down here. I'll just bring the
Speaker 1: computer in because it's all on power points, it's all
Speaker 1: scanned in, and I'll pretend I'm pitching it to a
Speaker 1: room full of people into the microphone, and then I'll
Speaker 1: take at and turn that into an animatic and so
Speaker 1: so I went home that weekend and I edited all together,
Speaker 1: and I and I you know, found some sound effects
Speaker 1: and then you know, and I would cut out stuff
Speaker 1: that I felt like was absolutely unnecessary where I would
Speaker 1: be describing something. But most of the time I'm just
Speaker 1: like doing different voices for different characters and stuff, and
Speaker 1: the and the duven Schmertz. And first of all, that's
Speaker 1: the best selling tool that's ever existed. And as far
Speaker 1: as I've been able to figure out, I invented it
Speaker 1: the pitch reel, and lots of people have done that
Speaker 1: since then, but I was the first person, I think,
Speaker 1: to actually do that as a way of pitching their show.
Speaker 1: Like here's an episode like mostly finished, and and it
Speaker 1: takes away any of their having to try to figure out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's like, oh, how is this gonna how is
Speaker 1: this going to be executed? They know how it's going
Speaker 1: to be executed because they can see it. That's the
Speaker 1: most In all fairness, you you are a rarity in
Speaker 1: that there. I can do all those people can do
Speaker 1: all of it. You know, I'm gonna draw, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sing the song, I'm gonna do the voice. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like that I mean, there's you know, Seth McFarland,
Speaker 1: there's a handful of people that can do that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even can draw the way the way that
Speaker 1: you can draw. He can, he can draw, but he
Speaker 1: would not have probably been able to use an editing software.
Speaker 1: So that's a verity to kind of say, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go in and I'm gonna do essentially do the
Speaker 1: entire thing one man bandit to to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on. And I've sold them three shows now and
Speaker 1: I've sold them all the same way by going in
Speaker 1: and just I'm just gonna get like, you know, part
Speaker 1: of it is that I don't really like the process
Speaker 1: of development. I don't like the here's the script, will
Speaker 1: get some notes changes like I don't want to do
Speaker 1: that for a year. I just want to show them
Speaker 1: what the show I want and let them decide whether
Speaker 1: they want that show and and and so so that's
Speaker 1: what I've done. I've got I've gone through development three
Speaker 1: times and never had to go through develop element because
Speaker 1: I just like, here it is crazy to yell now,
Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, you must know Bob and Mark, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I just remember we had a lot of notes on
Speaker 1: Kim we did. I mean, we always had something going
Speaker 1: on and we would send it, you know, overseas for animation,
Speaker 1: and our a R process would sometimes from episode to
Speaker 1: episode be very lengthy. Um, that's normal. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you do. We have a lot of because I'm but
Speaker 1: it's because I'm rewriting, It's not because the executives are rewriting.
Speaker 1: But Bob and Park were also cut from the original
Speaker 1: kind of cloth of But who are They're wonderful writers,
Speaker 1: the greatest guys you'll ever meet, great producers. But they're
Speaker 1: not going to get into a room and start singing
Speaker 1: songs and playing, you know, doing your voices quieter they
Speaker 1: are there. They are much much quieter guys. Um. So
Speaker 1: then let me ask you a question. Well, let's very quickly.
Speaker 1: Would you rather it? Uh? If you had you had
Speaker 1: a choice, somebody came to you right now and said,
Speaker 1: you get to produce and draw or you get to
Speaker 1: voice act. You can't do both, which one do you pick?
Speaker 1: I think I would want to produce and draw. I
Speaker 1: think as much fun as voice acting is, and it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, I think that I would get
Speaker 1: a little board just voice acting for somebody else's show
Speaker 1: where you know, you know, like like a lot of
Speaker 1: duven Schwirtz uh, you know in Dufen Schmarts came from
Speaker 1: that pitch reel. In answer to your earlier question, like
Speaker 1: the executive said, I think you should do differen Schmarts
Speaker 1: because you should. We should do that voice that you're
Speaker 1: doing in the in the ice real so um and
Speaker 1: I love that character. And but so much of the
Speaker 1: lines that we hear on TV for him were me
Speaker 1: making stuff up in the editing room because what we
Speaker 1: were getting wasn't quite what you're like, Oh, I think
Speaker 1: maybe we should go this way with it. What if
Speaker 1: his what if what he's trying to do is this?
Speaker 1: And I would just like I would, I would do
Speaker 1: you know, I would. I would make something up about
Speaker 1: girl Scott's trying to buy me cookies and stuff and
Speaker 1: uh and then I then I would have to then
Speaker 1: a d R it and match it exactly. And definitely
Speaker 1: first has a lot of he's doing a lot of stammering,
Speaker 1: and so I would have to account he's not doing
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, like I would have to match
Speaker 1: my own, you know, gobbledygook that I just made up
Speaker 1: on the spot. Rightly exactly. So now, how did you
Speaker 1: come up with that voice? Is that? Had you been
Speaker 1: doing that most of your life? You hear that a
Speaker 1: lot of people. It's like, I kind of did this
Speaker 1: voice forever. I guess I didn't. You know. My sister
Speaker 1: tells me that that's the voice I would use when
Speaker 1: we were kids, and if we were playing some pretend
Speaker 1: thing where I was the bad guy and she was
Speaker 1: the good guy, I would always use that voice. I
Speaker 1: didn't remember that, but she says, no, just it was
Speaker 1: like you to me. E G Daily said the same thing.
Speaker 1: Will e G said that when she was a baby
Speaker 1: that she would when she got a little bit older,
Speaker 1: she would make these baby sounds and that's what influenced
Speaker 1: her for Tommy Pickles And I know you also directed
Speaker 1: for rug Grads and whatnot. I did not direct for Rugs.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's it's on MYMB. It's absolutely yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my favorite things. It still says that that's one of
Speaker 1: the few shows I didn't work on. Yeah, but let's talk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it says my my my nephew was
Speaker 1: going to was applying to Occidental out here and he
Speaker 1: got the packet from Occidental and it says notable celebrity alumni.
Speaker 1: There's my name fourth down and I looked. He called
Speaker 1: me and he went, you went to Occidental. I went,
Speaker 1: I did, yes, Occidental. As far as I'm concerned at
Speaker 1: this point, if they've been using me to recruit I
Speaker 1: get an honorary degree. Should This is a perfect segue
Speaker 1: into the other things you've done, because you have a
Speaker 1: you know, Phineas and Ferb obviously enormous. But we just
Speaker 1: talked about how you were the creator of rug Rats. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you. There's a whole online thing on TikTok because
Speaker 1: this one creator has continued this running joke that she
Speaker 1: says that I created the minions. She's always thanking me
Speaker 1: for creating the minions, which I did not do. But
Speaker 1: I get thanks for the Minions all the time and
Speaker 1: TikTok's and I'm like, I had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the minions. Okay. So to to clear it up, then
Speaker 1: here on I hear voices you created rug Rats, you
Speaker 1: created the Minions and Despicable Me. That's too all those
Speaker 1: things did you also? So let's see if if you
Speaker 1: worked on Hey Arnold. I worked on Hey Arnold almost
Speaker 1: every thing else on I am dB is correct, directed
Speaker 1: on Hey Arnold Bungebob. Yes, I wrote and directed on SpongeBob.
Speaker 1: Family Guy. Family Guy was a director for six seasons
Speaker 1: I don't even need to name. And I was the
Speaker 1: story Yeah, so the family Guy. I was not only
Speaker 1: the direct in my own episodes, but I was storyboard supervisor,
Speaker 1: which meant that that that Seth would do this thing
Speaker 1: where that he called punting to pap and Meyer because
Speaker 1: he quickly realized that I have the same sense of
Speaker 1: humor as him and drew the same way he would
Speaker 1: like to draw up. He had the time and uh,
Speaker 1: and so he would do any musical number or any
Speaker 1: like thing that he just needed a big bunch of
Speaker 1: visual gags. He would just say, and then Dan's gonna
Speaker 1: put in a bunch of visual gags here, and he
Speaker 1: would just give it to me and let me go.
Speaker 1: So I was the only guy on the on the
Speaker 1: artist's side who was also sort of writing for the show.
Speaker 1: He called me their rider. Now, did you do any
Speaker 1: voices on Family That was a great gig? No, No,
Speaker 1: Family Guys a great gig. Not a Family Guy's a
Speaker 1: great gig. It's it's it's a good gig. So okay,
Speaker 1: so again not to not to Desert Island you again,
Speaker 1: But if you all the shows you've done, is there
Speaker 1: one you look back at and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: that's the show for me, that's how I look, you know,
Speaker 1: my career, that's that show. I think that would have
Speaker 1: to be Phineas and for I think, okay, I think
Speaker 1: that that feels the most like me. Although this this
Speaker 1: new one I'm doing, I'm doing one called Hamstern Gretel
Speaker 1: for for the Channel right now. It's premiering something. Is
Speaker 1: it even the channel anymore? Isn't It is the Channel,
Speaker 1: but it's also a Disney Plus. It's Disney Plus where
Speaker 1: it's it's oh my god. I went there. Okay, I
Speaker 1: was in. I was in l a not to side,
Speaker 1: went to the Channel it and it's tried. Nobody was there,
Speaker 1: nobody's there's black and white, no color, no page. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: Gary's not there. I would went in, I got my Starbucks,
Speaker 1: thought I could crash four whatever it was, and it
Speaker 1: was like, I haven't been back to the studio. I
Speaker 1: haven't been back to the studio since that friday that
Speaker 1: they had us had us leave two years ago. So
Speaker 1: I have friends at work at Disney. They're still doing
Speaker 1: everything remote, so it's there. They're starting. They're just now
Speaker 1: this month is starting to get some other some productions
Speaker 1: back in there, and I was thinking, why can't they
Speaker 1: just let us all come in, and they said, well,
Speaker 1: the computers are over two years old now and they've
Speaker 1: been sitting, so they like the problem is is that
Speaker 1: they are trying to replace all the computer systems and
Speaker 1: that's what's taking a long time. So that's why they're
Speaker 1: doing one production at a time. And we're like the
Speaker 1: you know, we're like late July. I think we're going
Speaker 1: so nobody nobody's turned on the Starship Enterprise in two
Speaker 1: years and they don't know what crank up the nescells again. Excellent. Actually,
Speaker 1: actually I sort of lined before because last week I
Speaker 1: went to go find something at the studio and I
Speaker 1: had to like like planned three days in advance so
Speaker 1: if they would actually grant me access to the studio.
Speaker 1: And it was like this weird ghost place. It was.
Speaker 1: It was really strange, and I'm like I got were
Speaker 1: in my office, it was like absolutely silent there, and
Speaker 1: somebody had like I have a whole shelf full of
Speaker 1: Phineas toys and somebody had obviously cleaned the shelf and
Speaker 1: put them back into like much better arrangement than I have.
Speaker 1: I was like, put some real care into this. And
Speaker 1: then I went and I and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should see it. I should, and I filmed it.
Speaker 1: I was like, how badly out of tune with my
Speaker 1: guitar be? After two years? And I picked it up
Speaker 1: and it was in tune. So that means whoever cleaned
Speaker 1: the room they walked around, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Somebody picked it up and said, no, no, we gotta
Speaker 1: we're gonna tune this. And I was I was like
Speaker 1: that trauma, was like, oh my god, it was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't perfectly in tune, but it was not two years?
Speaker 1: Was two years out of tude? All right? Since we're
Speaker 1: talking Phineas, I think we would get our fans would
Speaker 1: be very upset if we did not ask where did
Speaker 1: it come from? Where? I mean, how did that start? Where?
Speaker 1: Where did the ideas start? And how did it go
Speaker 1: from there? Phineas was it was swampy and I trying
Speaker 1: to create, you know, like we've been thrown together as
Speaker 1: a writing team. And we loved writing together. We're like,
Speaker 1: let's just create a show together and then we'll just
Speaker 1: get to write together for the rest of our careers.
Speaker 1: And then it took like thirteen years to sell it.
Speaker 1: You know, really it took years. Uh here, hold on
Speaker 1: one second, Yeah, definitely, I have the original. Oh this
Speaker 1: is cool, this is gonna be cool. Everybody. Wow, only
Speaker 1: on I hear voices? Do you get this kind of
Speaker 1: guess this kind of what you know? Why? I can
Speaker 1: honestly tell you what it's because it's we're nerds and
Speaker 1: we love this stuff and love look at that. We
Speaker 1: will have to take a screenshot and put this on
Speaker 1: our Instagram. So that is the original. That's the original.
Speaker 1: And it was and it was a a one of
Speaker 1: those those butcher paper tablecloths they give you at some
Speaker 1: restaurants where they give you a little can of crayons
Speaker 1: to do all the while you're it's so it's drawn
Speaker 1: in purple crayon on on on my table cloth. And
Speaker 1: I liked it so much I told my my my
Speaker 1: wife said, oh, who's that? And I was like, this
Speaker 1: is Phineas. This is this show I'm going to sell someday. As.
Speaker 1: That was those were the actual words I said on
Speaker 1: that occasion, and I tore it off and I took
Speaker 1: it home and I drew Perry the Platypus and Dufin
Speaker 1: Schmarts and ferb that night, and I took those four
Speaker 1: drawings into work the next day and swamping and I
Speaker 1: built the whole room around that. That's unbelievable. And you
Speaker 1: still have it, which is the thing. I still have
Speaker 1: it all these years, so sure. And and what's funny
Speaker 1: is that I had lost it for a long time.
Speaker 1: I had no idea where that was. And then within
Speaker 1: a week, I think it was the week that the
Speaker 1: show finally got its official green light. That weekend, we
Speaker 1: were planning a yard sale and I was going through
Speaker 1: boxes and stuff like that, and in between two books
Speaker 1: was this drawing and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it now, and I went and got it
Speaker 1: framed and and stuff. So that is that is a
Speaker 1: piece of animation in Hollywood history right there. That is very,
Speaker 1: very cool, very so. The other thing, we are about
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes away, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're aware of what we do, but we do something
Speaker 1: kind of fun here on the show where a guest
Speaker 1: gets to come in and you know, Christine and I
Speaker 1: go to a lot of conventions and we deal with
Speaker 1: we we get to to meet a lot of people
Speaker 1: who want to be voice over actors and don't know
Speaker 1: how to go about it and and don't really get
Speaker 1: the opportunity. So what we do is we have somebody
Speaker 1: come on he wants to be a voice over actor,
Speaker 1: and they get to do a little ad lib scene
Speaker 1: and then we have a couple of lines of dialogue
Speaker 1: that we have written for them. We have a little
Speaker 1: game that we have called Across the Garden, and so
Speaker 1: what it is is Christie and I are two little
Speaker 1: mice that are trying to get from one side of
Speaker 1: a garden to the other side of the garden, and
Speaker 1: we're meeting all of these characters along the way. UH,
Speaker 1: and they get to pick who they want, you know,
Speaker 1: what kind of characters they want to be. We had
Speaker 1: some some great ones. Phil Lamar was this awesome hummingbird.
Speaker 1: He was great. We have some people that are vegetables.
Speaker 1: And the last episode that we did, which was very
Speaker 1: very cool, Andrea Romano came out of retirement and actually
Speaker 1: directed some of UH. Directed one of the guests um,
Speaker 1: so we have a guest coming on today, all all
Speaker 1: the way from England. It's like one thirty in the
Speaker 1: morning there right now. But they are going to come
Speaker 1: on and uh and if it's okay with you, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna do a little scene. And then once they
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do this. The hope is that
Speaker 1: when the season is over, we're going to take all
Speaker 1: these little segments and we are going to animate them
Speaker 1: and people are gonna get to see themselves as cartoon
Speaker 1: characters and characters that they've created. Because what do you
Speaker 1: mean from me, am I supposed to be somebody in
Speaker 1: this Yeah, we'd love you to be somebody. And so
Speaker 1: where we are so far, if memory picking up where
Speaker 1: we left off with our two mice uh mice characters,
Speaker 1: we had just come around a very scary tree and
Speaker 1: we are trying Christie's characters trying to get to the
Speaker 1: mall uh to meet her boyfriend. She's like a gen z,
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever's and my character is just very
Speaker 1: scared of everything and please because my little brother really annoying.
Speaker 1: So we're very mellow and we're meeting all these crazy
Speaker 1: along the way. You can be whoever you want to
Speaker 1: be uh if you we always say you want to
Speaker 1: be a woodled creature, you want to be a vegetable,
Speaker 1: you want to be a human that's yelling down at
Speaker 1: whatever you'd like to be. You are more than welcome.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think gonna tell us before I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be a long known Oh yes, yes, Oh, I
Speaker 1: love that so so much. That's awesome. And I think
Speaker 1: Elizabeth that we're gonna be bringing is it Jordy George?
Speaker 1: There's George? How are you? Oh? I'm very well. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is something that wasn't a thing earlier on. Now
Speaker 1: we know that it is. It is very early in
Speaker 1: the morning where you are right now, is it not? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: I am three cups of teas and so I'm I'm
Speaker 1: all right, I'm wired and ready to record that. Like
Speaker 1: any voice over actor in the world, it's nice to
Speaker 1: this is how cool this podcast is and how amazing
Speaker 1: our fans are. I had, you know, we needed to
Speaker 1: get somebody today because we've been doing different scheduling, and
Speaker 1: I put on my stories, which, by the way, Dan
Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about engaging with his fans
Speaker 1: on his TikTok, but I put on my stories, and
Speaker 1: George was the person who I picked to be on
Speaker 1: today's show. So George, let's explain what we're doing today.
Speaker 1: That's how it happens. It's that fast. When I saw
Speaker 1: your story, it was seven hours ago. Surely not. Yes,
Speaker 1: is how fast the entertainment industry works. George. We need
Speaker 1: an actor, we get an actor. That's how quick it is.
Speaker 1: And you're a good fan, so thank you. That is amazing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're familiar with our with
Speaker 1: our little game here and you're gonna play with Dan,
Speaker 1: Pop and Meyer over here with George. Uh So, we
Speaker 1: are going across the garden, and what it is is
Speaker 1: Christy and I are two little mice trying to get
Speaker 1: across the garden and we are trying to eat people
Speaker 1: along the way who are helping us on our journey.
Speaker 1: You each get to pick your character, So Dan is
Speaker 1: going to be a garden gnome, which is kind of awesome.
Speaker 1: And Jorgan, is there some kind of character you'd like
Speaker 1: to be? And keep in mind it could be animal, vegetable,
Speaker 1: or mineral, doesn't matter. You're allowed to pick whatever you want.
Speaker 1: That is the joy of the world of animation is
Speaker 1: you can be whatever you'd like to be, so we'll good.
Speaker 1: Is none of that fair enough? I Am going to
Speaker 1: be a dog that happens to be in the God
Speaker 1: love that that. Does your dog have a name? O
Speaker 1: the dog? The dog as in as in Garfield and Odi? Yes,
Speaker 1: love that totally based on my actual dog called od.
Speaker 1: Okay great. So what we're they gonna do is we
Speaker 1: will do a very quick run of the scene, will
Speaker 1: keep it real brief. And then I think you also
Speaker 1: have some lines that we sent you, right, George, Yes,
Speaker 1: So the first thing we're gonna do is we're just
Speaker 1: gonna do a quick ad lib scene and uh, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna come back to you and we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a real vo session with you. We're gonna need
Speaker 1: you to do the three lines three different times. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you a little direction and uh, just like
Speaker 1: in a session, we're gonna go from there. Does that
Speaker 1: work for you? Excellent? Is a dream come true. I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to do this, So thank you. That's good,
Speaker 1: very very cool. We cannot wait, all right, Christie, I
Speaker 1: think we set the scene where last time. Oh, she's
Speaker 1: already in character. She's like, yeah, last time as we
Speaker 1: left off across the garden, memory serves we had just
Speaker 1: rounded a very very nasty tree who didn't want us
Speaker 1: to be anywhere near him. And we're still very far
Speaker 1: away from the mall, aren't we, Christy take it away? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're going to a mall and um, we're a
Speaker 1: little lost right now. Would you come along? Come on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're hiding. Maybe this garden Nome can help us. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: Mr Nome, Please don't scare me. Um, we're trying to
Speaker 1: get to the mall. Why why did you have to
Speaker 1: go to the mall again? I told it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep talking about it. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you're asking me for directions? Yeah, you realize I made
Speaker 1: out of ceramic. I then moved from the spots, and well,
Speaker 1: since they stuck me here, it's a point. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: which way did you come from? Was there a mall
Speaker 1: where you came from? There? Then maybe if you keep
Speaker 1: going the direction you you're going, you're at least fifty
Speaker 1: of the way there. Vague everything in that direction is
Speaker 1: not a mall, is what I am saying. So everything
Speaker 1: in this direction might be a mall because that's the
Speaker 1: direction you're going. Would you like us to try to
Speaker 1: spin you around? Are you happy with your direction? Actually?
Speaker 1: If if you could give me just like a quarter turn,
Speaker 1: because I'm just trying to do the other side of
Speaker 1: my face? Oh do you want to cart the other side? Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead going wait wait wait wait, no, No, that's
Speaker 1: too much. Is the mall straight? The grass is nice? Okay,
Speaker 1: grass is nice? I do not see them all straight up?
Speaker 1: If that helps you at all. Hold on a second.
Speaker 1: Aren't you that guy from TikTok? No, No, that's some
Speaker 1: other guy entirely. I'm a much better looking guy than
Speaker 1: that the TikTok nome. That guy's got like five point
Speaker 1: eight million followers is awesome. Ye, there's a dog. There's
Speaker 1: a dog calling. Oh hello. I noticed that you were
Speaker 1: putting over hitty talk nome. I was wondering, how, how, what, why?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing? Oh? God? I hate dogs. They're
Speaker 1: so cute. Hi, what's hello? Hello? Hello? Mission? No, if
Speaker 1: you could just turn over your ears, can hear my
Speaker 1: name is and I am a lovely to dog. And
Speaker 1: I hear that you want to go to a more Well,
Speaker 1: I don't they want to go to the mall. I
Speaker 1: just want I just want to lay here in the
Speaker 1: grass and hopefully not get peet on by a dog.
Speaker 1: Well that's okay, you're not red and you're not a
Speaker 1: fire hydrant. Excellent, pe down by a mouse because we're
Speaker 1: kind of past that stage at this point. Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought it was just the moisture of the grass green.
Speaker 1: You just peed on the TikTok noo. Yeah, maybe then
Speaker 1: i'll go viral. I didn't mean that. I'll show myself out, don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: So can you see where we're going up there? Odi? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a British little dog, so I called them shopping centers.
Speaker 1: But I believe it's the one with the big target
Speaker 1: red over there. That's it. That's it. Yes, that closed.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna have to do closed? My boyfriend, the
Speaker 1: rat is there. We have to go and see him
Speaker 1: before he leaves. Are you telling you that it doesn't
Speaker 1: exist anymore? Well, I'm telling you he had a rat
Speaker 1: and he had liked to you. Or maybe just stay
Speaker 1: with me on this. Maybe it's not closed for rats.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's possible too, but yeah, maybe it's just people.
Speaker 1: I don't know dogs. It's because you're a dog. That's why.
Speaker 1: It's because I'm not a guide dog, and I don't
Speaker 1: guide people because it's not helpful. It just made me
Speaker 1: so upset and seen her. That was wonderful. Now, George,
Speaker 1: very quickly, so you got you got the dialogue in
Speaker 1: front of you, all right. So in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: in the the the the voiceover world, we're doing a
Speaker 1: B and C takes. So we're gonna give you give
Speaker 1: us three takes of each line and switch it up.
Speaker 1: Uh in between you know, the how you want to
Speaker 1: what you want to emphasize or kind of energy you
Speaker 1: want to give it. But give us that dialogue. We'll
Speaker 1: do the first one first and go from there. You ready,
Speaker 1: You're ready? All right, here you go. Here's number one.
Speaker 1: Go for it and action. Yeah, oh avoid that guy
Speaker 1: like the be avoid. Oh oh just stay away from him. Nice.
Speaker 1: Give us one more and then uh instead of in
Speaker 1: the middle, Uh, just give us kind of hemming and
Speaker 1: hawing sounds like um something like that. Okay, go ahead, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I avoid that guy like the be avoid. Um oh
Speaker 1: I got nothing. Just stay away from him, perfect, see
Speaker 1: take anything you want to do, just play. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: avoid that guy like the beach. Avoid Oh what's shoving?
Speaker 1: Really clever? Oh look Kevin, I've got nothing. Just stay
Speaker 1: away from him. Perfect, as they would say in the booth,
Speaker 1: Circle the sea. Take all, right, now you got here's
Speaker 1: your second line again, give us an a take? Here
Speaker 1: you go? Is that the more with the good food
Speaker 1: court and the two forever twenty one? Doesn't that make
Speaker 1: it forty two? Right? How about one more kind of
Speaker 1: to yourself and a little quicker? Is that the movement
Speaker 1: a good food court and the two forever twenty ones?
Speaker 1: Doesn't that make it forty two? Awesome? Give us a seat,
Speaker 1: take anything you want to do it? Is that the
Speaker 1: most slash shopping shed with the food court and the
Speaker 1: two forever twenty one, which me age a British question
Speaker 1: never never heard of? Doesn't that make it forty two?
Speaker 1: Circling the sea? Take again? I think we've seen that
Speaker 1: when you let George go, that's when you get the
Speaker 1: best take. Let's try Robin Williams. Let's Williams. Let's try
Speaker 1: your your third line here? Take it away. You think
Speaker 1: you've got problems. My best friend ran off with my
Speaker 1: wife and you really mean him? Give us an it's perfect.
Speaker 1: Give us another one. You think you've got problems. My
Speaker 1: best friend ran off with my wife and oh, I
Speaker 1: really mick him. And now the seat take anything you
Speaker 1: want to do. You think you've got problems. My best
Speaker 1: friend ran off with my wife and I really miss him.
Speaker 1: When he just struck my back. Oh there we go, George.
Speaker 1: You killed it. You kill you. Mike dropped got into
Speaker 1: the booth and you killed it, my friend. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for for hanging out with us, and uh
Speaker 1: for for sharing this with us. We think that's great.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh, thank you for the opportunity for me
Speaker 1: to come in. I've been watching What k Pieces She
Speaker 1: Doesn't Too. KP started when I was starting second we school,
Speaker 1: high school, and it finished when I left school. So
Speaker 1: it was literally the perfect program for me to find
Speaker 1: myself and to become who I am today. And Dad, Parvameyer,
Speaker 1: thank you for pos for your new show. Oh, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. That is so cool. George, thank
Speaker 1: you for staying up with us. Hopefully after your three
Speaker 1: cups of tea, you're gonna be able to sleep now.
Speaker 1: But you killed it and we can't wait till you
Speaker 1: get to actually see yourself animated. H and Odi the
Speaker 1: dog comes to life because you're the one who who
Speaker 1: gave him life. My friend, that's awesome. I did not
Speaker 1: know that. I'm even more. Just wait, we're working on it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody. Awesome. Wow, that was so unbelievably cool. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I love doing that. It is fun. Now, Dan, you
Speaker 1: do have this new show coming out. Do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about that or can you? It's it's coming
Speaker 1: out on the Channel and on Disney Plus. I don't
Speaker 1: think I can give you a date yet, but it's
Speaker 1: but it's. Uh. Sometimes I think this summer and uh
Speaker 1: and we are. I'm really thrilled with it. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's got all the humor of Phineas and Ferb,
Speaker 1: but it's also got a bunch of action. It's also
Speaker 1: got a bunch of heart. It's really about a family
Speaker 1: in a way that none of the none of the
Speaker 1: other shows really were and uh. And it's about a
Speaker 1: brother and sister who are are quite quite a few
Speaker 1: years apart. The brother can drive, and he's been waiting
Speaker 1: to get his license so that he can be out
Speaker 1: on the open road and in charge of his destiny,
Speaker 1: and of course he gets in license and then he
Speaker 1: just becomes the chauffeur to his little his little sister,
Speaker 1: which is what happened to me when I was growing up.
Speaker 1: I had a sister that was ten years younger than me,
Speaker 1: and I just became her, Like, Okay, you're going to
Speaker 1: soccer practice, let's go. You know, It's like I became that.
Speaker 1: But in the midst of that, they're on the road
Speaker 1: one day and they get, uh, they get stopped by
Speaker 1: aliens that that tell them that they that the two
Speaker 1: of you have been chosen to receive superpowers, and they
Speaker 1: shoot them with this beam and he's like, this is great. Well,
Speaker 1: you like, like we're gonna be a brother sister superhero team,
Speaker 1: you and me, and then uh, but unfortunately the superpowers
Speaker 1: go on to Gretel, the sister and her pet hamster,
Speaker 1: who happens to be in the car, which causes a
Speaker 1: little preaching. But but so that this series is really
Speaker 1: just about sort of the two of them and the hamster, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's still the older brother and still
Speaker 1: still feels very protective of her and wants to, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure she's okay and guide her and and she's
Speaker 1: all in an impulse and she doesn't really need protection
Speaker 1: because she can lift a school bust bus over her head.
Speaker 1: But he becomes like the guy on the headphones in
Speaker 1: the in the in the van, you know, telling her
Speaker 1: which way to go and like, you know, some of
Speaker 1: the brains of the team. He's the chair guy, and
Speaker 1: we're having the best time with apparently got the best uh,
Speaker 1: the best audience scores in the in the focus tests
Speaker 1: since the original Phineas, So the executives are really excited
Speaker 1: about it, the channel is really excited about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm having just the time of my life. I think
Speaker 1: that's amazing. And where can people find you? Social media wise?
Speaker 1: I'm Dan pav and meyer at on TikTok. I'm Dan
Speaker 1: Pavar Twitter Sometimes I don't need Twitter or Instagram as much, uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm YouTube. Why are you on TikTok? TikTok? TikTok
Speaker 1: is so much more fun than any than any social
Speaker 1: media that I've ever attempted. And you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: and you know part of it is that that's where
Speaker 1: all the Phineas and ferb fans. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: like you know, I didn't grow much on Twitter or
Speaker 1: Instagram after the show stopped, but I did like one
Speaker 1: TikTok and where I did the Douf voice and it
Speaker 1: got like two million views, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is where all like I thought people just forgotten
Speaker 1: about the show. And I was like, I was fine,
Speaker 1: it had its day, you know, and I suddenly realized
Speaker 1: there's this rabid following of people who just love that show.
Speaker 1: But the other is like, I get to make little
Speaker 1: movies all the time. I get to you know, I
Speaker 1: get to you know, like plan and edit and perform
Speaker 1: in these little movies and I'm just I'm just having
Speaker 1: the most fun. And as soon as I started doing
Speaker 1: stuff on and I grew so fast. I had, like
Speaker 1: I had I had a million followers within like the
Speaker 1: first two months, um, you know, and it was like,
Speaker 1: which was so much more than I've ever you know,
Speaker 1: I think I have a hundred thousand on on Twitter,
Speaker 1: which is a great number of Like I would have
Speaker 1: been really thrilled to that to have that number back
Speaker 1: in the day, and uh uh. And so now I
Speaker 1: just do That's what I do with my spare time.
Speaker 1: You know. The pandemic made it very easy to do that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm running a show again. I started. I started
Speaker 1: doing it when we were in the end of the
Speaker 1: Phineas and for a movie that we did for for
Speaker 1: Disney plus Candice against the University on Disney plus hundred
Speaker 1: percents Rotten Tomatoes ratings, just just gonna throw it out there.
Speaker 1: But but you know, so I was everything was winding down,
Speaker 1: and that would usually be a time in between shows
Speaker 1: where I would sort of feel depressed and like like
Speaker 1: really just like, oh man, you know, and uh, and
Speaker 1: now you know, and because of TikTok, I was able
Speaker 1: to throw myself into something else and you're like, I
Speaker 1: can rein screen. I was learning a lot of new
Speaker 1: things about the editing program and and uh and doing
Speaker 1: skits with my daughters and and uh, you know, promoting
Speaker 1: the show, promoting the movie, and it was just so
Speaker 1: much fun. It kept me sane during that time where
Speaker 1: I would have otherways been been stuck inside a house,
Speaker 1: you know, for for a year and uh. And so
Speaker 1: so I've just had the best time. I'm so addicted
Speaker 1: to It's the first thing I do in the morning
Speaker 1: is I checked my mentions and me too. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm fighting a losing battle here. I don't know
Speaker 1: I might have to do, you know, are you not
Speaker 1: TikTok I I have no social media presence whatsoever. I
Speaker 1: don't really have I don't even have Facebook. I have nothing.
Speaker 1: Will Yeah, I love that. And also what I think
Speaker 1: it's cool about data is that, like all of that
Speaker 1: live action stuff that you wanted to do, it's like
Speaker 1: a part of that. In year, it's so nice to
Speaker 1: see when the fans react so organically to every you know,
Speaker 1: to your legacy. And I think it's really cool that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's cool. It's cool to see that, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: but there's all these songs that we wrote, you know,
Speaker 1: for Phineas, we wrote a song for every eleven minute.
Speaker 1: I wrote four five hundred songs for Disney at this point.
Speaker 1: And uh, and there's all these songs that we wrote
Speaker 1: in you know, there's a song called Busted where I
Speaker 1: just was looking it up the other day on TikTok.
Speaker 1: And there's hundreds of thousands of videos not views. Is
Speaker 1: that the videos that people did. Huh, Yeah, the wrap
Speaker 1: one was a huge that was a huge trend on
Speaker 1: on TikTok. There were the hundreds of thousands of those.
Speaker 1: There was like hundreds of millions of of of views
Speaker 1: for that. But just watching people doing like Busted was
Speaker 1: great because there's a whole choreography that I drew for it,
Speaker 1: and it's it was Candice and Vanessa, these two characters,
Speaker 1: and and it's like a shot like a music video,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just this fun little pop song. Then
Speaker 1: me and Martin Olsen wrote in an hour in two
Speaker 1: thousand five, and there's and so like people doing cool
Speaker 1: harmony parts of it and stuff like that. It's so
Speaker 1: cool to see that these songs have really stood the
Speaker 1: test of time. You know, there was a guy who
Speaker 1: was at Lollapalooza with his band and played the Phineas
Speaker 1: and ferb theme songs like just a surprise thing for them,
Speaker 1: And it's this sea of people who goes off into
Speaker 1: the horizon and they're all freaking singing along and maybe
Speaker 1: I like burst into tears and I'm like crying, and
Speaker 1: my wife comes out and she's like, what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's like watch this and then she started crying. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's just cool to see that that the show
Speaker 1: meant so much to so many people, like like the
Speaker 1: guy said, you know, Kim Possible defined this part of
Speaker 1: his childhood and that's what that's what you get when
Speaker 1: you do kids TV. As you get people growing up
Speaker 1: and they and and nostalgia for them is the thing
Speaker 1: that you made. And uh and you know that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, man, well thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. Yeah to say, lasting the test of time
Speaker 1: and generational are as an understatement. It's around. However, that's awesome,
Speaker 1: whole new generations to finding it with all the streaming
Speaker 1: services and everything going on. So that's really pretty wonderful. Well,
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