1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Christy, Hey Will, how are you. I'm super jazzed 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: about our guest today. I am too. Who is it? 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: It's Dad pov and Meyer, the legend, the icon, the 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: phideous and creator amongst so many amazing things. Doesn't he 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: also have like nine trillion followers on the TikTok machines. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: He is many things, and we're going to get into 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: it today. On I hear voices, all right, what's up, Dan, 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: We are excited to have you. When I hear work, 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: we get right into it. But like you know, here 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: we are. I don't know that that I've met Will. 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: He looks like like I might have met him. He 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: looks like vaguely familiar to have. That's how I thought 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: about it with you as well. I think we've done 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: something together in the past at some at some point, 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine that at least been at the same 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: party or something at some point. Yes, I actually we 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: were probably on a yacht with for Michael uh wait, 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Michael Richardson. Kevin Michael Richardson's uh part Okay, So 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: then we absolutely were. Yes, that is exactly yes, I 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: think that's where we probably met. Yes, yes, for our 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: everybody Kevin. Michael Richardson is oh I love that man, 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Michael Richardson in the voice of everybody, and he'll be 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: on at some point. But I also think I did 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: a Phineas and Ferb back in the day oh excellence. 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: So you probably you may have met Swampy because because 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: I would usually only come in on the days that 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: I was recording, because I was I was back doing 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff and Swampy was running the recording. 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: So who did you do on Phineas? Yeah, that well, 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I I honestly can't remember we were doing. I think 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: we might have. Didn't we do some kind of kimpossible 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: thing with Phineas and Ferb, well not not verbally, not 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: believe we did, for they had that Spot the Difference 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: episodes where where we would add visual things to stuff 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: and play them and to see if kids could could 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: spot anything like and we put kimpossible into a shot 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: that you know, like like we've got some assets from 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: one of the Impossible shows. And I'm sure we also 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: did some sort of like promo crossover kind of thing 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: where it's you know, it's like hi, run and this 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: is Phineas and like that kind of stuff. There were. 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: There were thousands of those and continue to be. And 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: one thing I will say is Dan Phineas and took 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: over the Epcot ride impossible, and we were okay with 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: it because we were going to give it to anybody. 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: We were happy to give it. They just took down. 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: They just took down the Phineas and Ferb version of 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: that at Upcot. Yeah, did you like two months ago 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: or something. Well, it wasn't even a ride. It was 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: sort of like a go around and and follow these 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: instructions kind of. I never played it all the way through, 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: but I played like a section of it when they 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: were putting it together. Swampy and I went out and 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: did some press out there, and uh, And they've told 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: me that they're sending me one of the Doofenschmart sculpts 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: from from the park, which I'm so excited about. But 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: like they told me this like a month ago, and 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: so I'm like constantly looking because it looks like it's 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: gonna be like four ft tall, and I'm like, like, 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I keep looking for a big box and it it 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: has not come yet. I I hope they remember, you know, 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Like they got my address and everything at the corner 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: of my office. He's just going to be like standing 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: at your driveway one day. So I have a question 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: because you only come in, Uh, you only come were 66 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: going in there when you were recording your character. Because 67 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: you're doing double and triple and quadruple duty on finn 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Us and verbs, so I'm doing a lot. I mean, 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: you create, you co created the show. You were I'm sure, 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: writing on the show, producing the show, helping with every 71 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: aspect of the show, and doing character voices. Yes, I was. 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: I was. I was the show runner and also writing 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: songs for the show and also doing doing you know, 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I basically would do doofin Schwirtz and then like two 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: other incidentals if we needed incidentals. There were only I 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: did climp Baloon, this weird magical you know, recurring character. 77 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: It was a magical old timey bathing suit that lived 78 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: in the Himalayas for some reason. But otherwise I was 79 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: just I was just defin Schwirtz. But but I was, 80 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, making notes on boards. I designed the characters. 81 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I was. I was directing first season until what I 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: made them higher some of the directors, so I didn't 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: also have to do that. But I was back doing, 84 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of the day to day 85 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: work of just making all those decisions and stuff for 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the for the show and reach. I'm I'm a bit 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a d D. So it's second hyper focus on a 88 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: bunch of things at a time if I like them all, 89 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: can we can we go back to the beginning of 90 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: of your career in animation and just what got you 91 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: into the world of animation, What attracted you to this 92 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: this incredible business of show. You know, you know, it's 93 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: funny because because when I was I was applying to college, 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: as I applied to to Cal Arts and to USC 95 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: and uh and cal and I sent in a bunch 96 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: of my artwork along with you know, with other things 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: for my portfolio. I sent some some actual art because 98 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: I was a professional artist when I was like twelve, 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: and uh and I was this weird. I was like 100 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: a child prodigy kid as as an illustrator and uh 101 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: and I sent in some artwork for for them and 102 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: uh and they sent me back a thing. And I 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: was but I was applying to the live action film 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: department at Cal Arts and they said, uh, and they 105 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: sent me a thing that said, we don't We're not 106 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: making decision on the live action department for you know, 107 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: for a while yet. But we did show some of 108 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: your artwork to the animation department and they said they 109 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: will take you right now, but that you'll get an 110 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: early admittance if you want to go into animation. And 111 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to go into animation. And 112 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: I threw that letter away and I went and uh 113 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and and I ended up going to USC and never 114 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: got into that film school either, but I took nothing 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: but film classes and then I dropped out and UH 116 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: and I was just looking for work to you know, 117 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: to keep the power on and uh and they they 118 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: were looking for a storyboard artists on Teenage Mutant Ninja 119 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Turtles in the eighties, the original Teenage Muting. And I 120 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: was like, well, I I understand filmmaking and I can draw. 121 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I should go and apply for that. And so I 122 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: applied for that and UH and I did UH storyboard 123 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: clean up for them for for like a year or so, 124 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: just freelance, like every week they would give me a 125 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: new one. And I'm making good money. And then UH, 126 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I went in in the house and did and work 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: on uh the UH Toxic Crusaders and James Bond Jr. 128 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: And UH. And then when that was drying up suddenly, 129 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, like that they didn't have other shows for 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: a while, and so I was out of work for 131 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: for a while, and I had let all my freelance 132 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: art stuff go, you know, like like sort of followed 133 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: by the wayside then and there was like six months 134 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: where I didn't work at all, and I was down 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: to my last like two or three hundred dollar ers 136 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: in the bank, which was gonna be rent next you know, 137 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, I really need to get something 138 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: going and UH and UH, and I took it, and 139 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: I applied to the Simpsons and I applied to UH, 140 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: applied to the Simpsons and I and I got hired 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: to write a low budget slasher movie on this in 142 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: the same week. And the Simpsons says, said, UH, said well, 143 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: we'll hire you. Come on in and draw here. And 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: so I was going in during the day and drawing, 145 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: and at night I would go I would come home, 146 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: I would have dinner, I would I would get up 147 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and I would start writing this script to for this 148 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: little bit low budget slasher movie. Untill ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, 149 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock at night. I'd go to sleep, i'd wake up, 150 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I'd go into work again. And I did that for 151 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: two weeks. And then I had a a movie that 152 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: was gonna get made that I had written the script for, 153 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: and and I was told that I could direct it, 154 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: but they would only be able to pay me this 155 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: amount of money. And I was working at The Simpsons 156 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: and making at least that in the next month, and 157 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: then I was going to continue to work months and 158 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: months and months, and and I realized I would have 159 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: to quit the Simpsons to go and direct this little 160 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: budget slasher movie. And and I suddenly realized that all 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the time I had spent in live action I had 162 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I didn't really necessarily feel a kinship to the people 163 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: in live action. I didn't feel like those were my people. 164 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: And uh, and it was actually a party at Swampy's house, 165 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: my my uh, my partner on Phineas and ferb was 166 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: another artist on The Simpsons, and he was throwing a party. 167 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: And my my first wife was was an actress and 168 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: and and I was trying to get her to come 169 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to this party with him, and she was like, I 170 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go to an industry party. 171 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: And I was I was like, let's just go. We'll 172 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: make it a point, we will just make an appearance. 173 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: And these are a bunch of people I'm working with them, 174 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: and say, okay, we'll go. And we went and we 175 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: had a great time. And nobody quoted their resume to me. 176 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: Nobody like, you know, like nobody got a glassy I'd 177 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: look and start turned away if they didn't feel they 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't help their career or anything like that. 179 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: And it was just a bunch of people hanging out 180 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: and having a great time. And we got in the 181 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: car and my wife was was was like, you know 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: what that was? That was an actual party. I haven't 183 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: been an actual party in like ten years in Los Angeles. 184 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I've never never been to it. Like that was great. 185 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, I think these are my peeps. 186 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: I think this is you know, and so I so 187 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: I turned down the gig on the on the Slasher movie, 188 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, directing it, and I just stayed at The Simpsons. 189 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: And then from the Simpsons, I ended up uh going 190 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: to a Brocco's Modern Life over a Nickelodeon, which they needed. 191 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: They needed people who could write and draw, and I 192 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: had done a comic strip, UH for daily comics strip 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: at USC at the for the for the school at 194 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: USC for the time I was there, and I had, 195 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, so hundreds of things that I had written 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and drawn, and I came in and handed it to 197 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Roger Chassan, who was the supervising director who had animated 198 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Jessica Rabbit for the for the movie back in the day. 199 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: And if I had known that, I would have been 200 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot more more nervous. Nervous would have been like 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: but but I handed him like a book of my 202 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: comic strip and he laughed, laughed at the first like 203 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: three pages and said, Okay, you're hired. And it was 204 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: like the easiest job interview I've had. But that's okay, 205 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: So wait, I have to I have to ask you 206 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: a question because there's so much there that I you 207 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: could do an entire show and the justice stories you told, 208 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: because first of all, I have to start with because 209 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: you glossed over this very quickly a professional artist at 210 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: twelve years old. At twelve years old, I was doing 211 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: all the juried art shows in the Deep South where 212 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in Alabama, and UH, and there were 213 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of art shows in that whole area where 214 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: you had you had to to uh send in slides 215 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: of your work, but you didn't have to send in 216 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: a picture of yourself. They would decide whether you were 217 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: good enough to go into these art shows and binding 218 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: and they would always pick me. They would always like 219 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: approve me, and I would show up and they would like, 220 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: so it is your father the artist. No, no, it's 221 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: and they would do like like stories on me in 222 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: the in the in the in the paper. And I got, 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, like the the Atlanta Institute of the Art 224 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: or whatever that's that's called in Atlanta was really trying 225 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: to recruit me to come to their their art department 226 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I was making good money for for 227 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: a twelve you know, like like for a teenager who's 228 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: not able to pay rent. I would go to these 229 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: art shows and make fifteen hundred dollars in a weekend. 230 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: And I was doing that a bunch of times in 231 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: the in the year, and uh and like the there's 232 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: a magazine that the San Diego Zoo puts out that's 233 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: uh that I sent them some art and they and 234 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: they and they paid me to use one of their 235 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: things on the cover. And I was just doing a 236 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of that, and I and with 237 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: those proceeds, I bought a super eight camera and movie 238 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: projector with a sound on sound thing where I, you know, 239 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: where I can make little movies, because that's what I 240 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: really wanted to do, was make movies. This is where 241 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I find your journey very interesting, because we will eventually 242 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: get to how he isn't obviously an icon, but an 243 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: icon in the whole TikTok world. Right now, he's million followers. 244 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: That is not something to down. It's a lot of 245 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: people to be paying attention to what I do. But 246 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: what I find so interesting is that a man, a 247 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: legend such as yourself, I understand your pain about loving 248 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: film and cinema and taking the classes. I went to 249 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Columbia for that. I was waitlisted at a f I 250 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't get in. I tried twice. I tried to 251 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: get into their women's program for directing. I was waitlisted 252 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: because of their silly little reasons whatever. I get it. 253 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, our business it is so 254 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: weird about who it lets in the gate keeping. It's 255 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: so strange, like you could have the most obvious amount 256 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: of like talent, enthusiasm, professionalism and it just doesn't go 257 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: in your direction, and and and you know, it just 258 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: just really encouraging that you were, you know, rejected. I'm 259 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: sorry to say so many people are fans of yours, 260 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they know that about your story, 261 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,479 Speaker 1: that you know that that was maybe in a multiverse 262 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: you're Scorsese somewhere. Yeah, it's possible, but you have to 263 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: see in the animation world, you know, I've done very 264 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: well and and I you end up finding the thing 265 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: that you're really meant to do. And I think that, 266 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason I threw away that 267 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: that that cal Arts letter was because at the time, 268 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: at that time, that was like the Dark Cauldron days. 269 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: That's where nothing good was happening in animation. Disney wasn't 270 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: Disney was doing Oliver and Company. And you know, like 271 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: there were there were no classic animated things happening in 272 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: TV was all like like the care Bears or Transformers. 273 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: It's all stuff based onto you know, like, so there 274 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: was nothing cool happening in animation. By the time I 275 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: got into animation, the Simpsons had happened, and suddenly that 276 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: was cool and and uh and ran and stimpy and 277 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: and Batman the animated series, and and then Little Mermaid. 278 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: There was this whole second renaissance in animation. So suddenly 279 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, no, I can do all the 280 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: things that I do in animation. I can, you know, 281 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: And that's what I do, like, you know, like for 282 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: a living. Now. I draw silly pictures, I write stupid stories, 283 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: I talk in silly voices, and I write stupid songs, 284 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: which are all the things that I would be doing 285 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: if I was unemployed. I would just nobody would be 286 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: paying me to do them. It's all I would be 287 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: at home doing by myself. So well, that's also the 288 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: joy of our industry though. It's what I mean. It's 289 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: like if you want to be a doctor and you're 290 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: rejected from medical school, you can't walk away and go, 291 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go try it anyway. Yes, 292 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: as industry exactly, but entertainment industry you get. You hear 293 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: stories all the time, the Quentin Tarantinos, the Dan's, all 294 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: these people where it's like I got rejected, so I went, 295 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do it anyway, and they become huge successes. 296 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: So it is one of the few industries in the 297 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: world where you don't need the education. If you have 298 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: the talent and the drive and everything else you can 299 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: do um. If you just have the will to go 300 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: out and make it happen, you can make it happen. 301 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Now you're still it's still winning the lottery, I mean, 302 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: the chances of it happening are are slim. But you 303 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: then get people like Dan who say, Okay, well you 304 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: said no to me here, I'm gonna go find a 305 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: different avenue and become hugely successful over here. And and 306 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: also it's much easier, I you know, like I think 307 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: the reason that I found this a better way to 308 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: get in is because you can show Like somebody who 309 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't draw doesn't think they can draw, someone who doesn't 310 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: write or doesn't direct, thinks they could write or direct. 311 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know what I mean, Like 312 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: people think they can write because they can spell. So 313 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's like, oh, I would be 314 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: able to do that if I just sat down and 315 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: thought about it. So so you don't fight against that 316 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: thing where where people who are there to hire you 317 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: sort of feel like they could do it do it 318 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: as well. Also, somebody who doesn't write can't read a 319 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: script and tell you whether it's any good because they 320 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: don't get what's good or bad about it. But somebody 321 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't draw and look at the drawing and say, 322 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: that looks like what it's supposed to look like. So 323 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: so to me, it's like the fact that I could 324 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: sort of draw anything you put in front of me. 325 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I've always been able to change styles to whatever show 326 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm on and stuff. It's loving that the fact that 327 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I was able to just go, oh, you wanted drawn 328 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: like that, Okay, I'll do this. They were like, Okay, 329 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: well you're hired. That's it's an easier way to get work. 330 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I think if because it's a it's a more distract 331 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: demonstrable talent. I think, who are the artists that inspired you? 332 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Dan or Um? It really sort of all starts and 333 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: stops with Chuck Jones, and there's a lot of others, 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: but he's the one that I that I that like, 335 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: every frame that I've seen that's drawn by Chuck Jones 336 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: just makes me go, oh, that's the perfect you know, like, 337 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: and that's what I would always try to do when 338 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: I was when I was you know, when I was boarding, 339 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: which I don't do as much of now. I boarded 340 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the pilot to the to the to the new show 341 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: in the in the first episode. But but when whenever 342 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: I would be like working on a visual gag, I 343 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: would just put post it's over post its over post 344 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: its and try to like keep pushing the pose until 345 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: it was perfect. Like, Okay, if I go any further, 346 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: it's not going gonna be good anymore. This is right 347 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: where it has has to be. And I just was 348 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: always trying to trying to um channel Chuck Jones when 349 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I when I drew and and as far as visual storytelling, 350 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: I was always trying to channel Miyazaki, who I got 351 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: to meet. I got to meet Chuck Jones in a 352 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: book signing once but which was cool. Uh And and 353 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: then I got to meet Miyazaki in his studio in Japan, 354 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: which was like one of these really really cool moments 355 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I got to I was actually in Howe's Moving Castle 356 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: and that was that was that's what they were making 357 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: when I when I went to the studio, getting to 358 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: go in and do some of the I think I 359 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: did three characters for the English dub was was really cool. 360 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: And Jason mars And who's has been a guest on 361 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: the show, and is my best friend growing up was 362 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: actually the lead in Spirited Away. Very cool. So yeah, 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: we talked about how he booked that entire role from 364 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: his closet, right story you hear those, but yeah, you 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: do you I mean again, I imagine it would be 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: like any other medium where you know, there are the 367 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: people that do it, and then then there are people 368 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: that do it well, and then there are people that 369 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: do it so well, but other people just like yep, yeah, 370 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: but and that's one of those. I felt that the 371 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: way the first time I saw a Kira where it 372 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is what anime and animation could be. Like, Okay, 373 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: it's not because I grew up on all the shows 374 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: you were talking about, which when you're eight years old, Thundercatch, Transformers, 375 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: g I Joe, they were the greatest thing in the world. 376 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: But then you get a little older and you watch 377 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the first episode of Batman in the animated series, and 378 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: you go, oh, wait, everything's different now. Yeah, yeah, you 379 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: know you've got those. Okay, so you get a call, Hey, 380 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: we want you to come in to work on a 381 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: little show called the Simpsons. Now what was the Simpsons? 382 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: When you joined up? It was cool because I loved 383 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: them on The Tracy Ullman Show. And then when I 384 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: heard they were doing that, I actually applied to them 385 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: way early and got turned down like I didn't define well, 386 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: I didn't have any studio experience. It was before I 387 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: was on The Ninja Turtles, and I've never worked in 388 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: a studio, and they were just a little a little 389 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: scared about it. Um, I applied. The time they took 390 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: me was was second season and I and UH and 391 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: and I went in. So I had already seen first 392 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: season and fallen in love with it, and I was like, 393 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: this is this is a show I really want to 394 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: work on. So you're a fan already by the time 395 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: you were on that second season. They gave me, they 396 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: gave me a drawing test and then you know, like 397 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: before I had just taken in like like this far 398 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: Out Man Hippie Land amusement sequence I did for Tommy 399 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Chong's movie for it was it was his first movie 400 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: without Cheech. It was called Far Out Man, and I 401 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: did this psychedelic animation was like the first actual animation 402 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: gig that that I had done, and and UH and 403 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I took that and showed them that and when I 404 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: look at it, now it's like, I understand why they 405 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't take me, because you know, it's it's like, this 406 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: doesn't look like the Simpsons. Doesn't know. There's a lot 407 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: of things I was doing wrong back then and stuff. 408 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: But but later on they were like, well, let's see 409 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: if you can do the Simpsons, and I drew them. 410 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: They were like, okay, you're at your end. So did 411 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you have a lit agent or no? No, I didn't. 412 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: I didn't have an agent till Disney called me a 413 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: year after turning down Phineas and Ferb. They called me 414 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: out of the blue and said, I know this is 415 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: out of the blue, but we want to option Phineas 416 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: and B. And I was like okay. They were like, 417 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: so just give it. Give us the name of your agent, 418 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: and Will are like, well, I better get an agent. 419 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: That was that was how I how I got an agent. 420 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Everything else, I find all these applications like, because I've 421 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: noticed that you really like proactive about finding you would 422 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: think so I sort of feel like most of that 423 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: just sort of happened to me, like someone would say, hey, 424 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: I saw an ad for this. I was not looking 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: through stuff looking for ads. It was just people that 426 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: I knew said you can draw right, you should do this? 427 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: You know that? Yeah. Literally, the first my first animation 428 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: gig with Tommy Chong was was me at home on 429 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: a Sunday, just eating cereal and a friend of mine 430 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: calling Dan, you you can do animation right, And I 431 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I took that one animation classic college. 432 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: And they said and she said, oh, I'm going to 433 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: give somebody your number, and they're like two phone calls later, 434 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tommy Chong was like, hey, man, I 435 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: hear you're a great animator. And I was like, yes, 436 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: that that that's me. That's the entertainment industry. The entertainment 437 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: industry is fake. Get till you make it. Say yes 438 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: to whatever they ask. Can you play the drums? Sure can? 439 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: And then yes? And so you go into the Simpsons. 440 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: You sit down and you are deskmates with your future partner. Right. Well, 441 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: he's right across the aisle from me. There's like there's 442 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: like there was like this huge bullpen of just just 443 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: uh you know, cubicles as far as that I could 444 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: see on the on the bottom floor and uh and 445 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: and we were both on the aisle and so we 446 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: we got to know each other. That way, and did 447 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you hit it off right away? And you know you 448 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: had the same kind of animation background, you knew all 449 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: that kind of it was like, oh this this could 450 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: be something here. Yeah. No, No, we had a great time. 451 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: And actually, uh, he's the one that got me, that 452 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: got me to come and apply to Rocco because that 453 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: we were getting laid off. And I was like, so 454 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. I've already got a lot 455 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: work lined up Nickelodeon I show called Rocko. You should 456 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: you should go apply? All right, you know there's another woe. 457 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: Somebody just said you should have I for this. Okay, 458 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: I will. And then then I got it. And then 459 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: we got put together as a writing team. And that's 460 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: where the magic really started happening. We just had a 461 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: great time writing together and just you know, like like 462 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: just sort of like finishing each other's sentences in funnier 463 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: and funnier ways. And so where did where did this? Eventually? 464 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: I want to get into obviously how Phineas and FIRB 465 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: came about and all that kind of stuff, But where 466 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: did you go from this to doing voice over? I mean, 467 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: were you doing the voices of the characters that you're 468 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: kind of animating, whether it's The Simpsons or whatever, you're 469 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: kind of throwing the voices out. Where are we were? 470 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: We were. I would always pitch, you know, pitch gags, 471 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: and especially at Nickelodeon, you're writing the show. So the 472 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: first time anybody here's sees the show, the executives see 473 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the show, you're just pitching it to them. And Swampy 474 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: and I were both came from performance backgrounds. I was 475 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: I did a lot of uh of theater, you know, 476 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: through through through college and out of college, I made 477 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: a being doing dinner theater for a while and uh 478 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: and uh, and I was also in a band. I 479 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: did a lot of performing and Swampy was the same. 480 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: And so we were, you know, like which is very 481 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: unusual for animators to be also outgoing, you know, extroverts, 482 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: and it makes us real outliers. But we would go 483 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: into the pitch and have a great time pitching and 484 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: get the get the executives just laughing all the way through. 485 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: We could really just work a room and and I 486 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: think that's really what set us apart with like like 487 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: one of the other board artists once found it, like, 488 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: so how'd your pitch go? And it's like they laughed 489 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: in all the right places in these they they laughed 490 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: like out loud. Well, yes, they like and then we 491 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: realized that a lot of them were just working there. Okay, 492 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: and then this guy does this this and he says 493 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: this under and they were reading and we were performing 494 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: it and you know, and sometimes we write songs for 495 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: for episodes and you know, and I bring my guitar 496 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: rim and we would play and sing the song as 497 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: as we were going. Uh so yeah, so so so 498 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: that was so so for Phineas and ferb which was 499 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: the first show that I that I created, I exactly, 500 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, they ordered this pilot and they were asking 501 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and so, when when do you want to try to 502 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: get the script? And I said, well, I'd rather not 503 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: do a script. I'd rather write it and draw it 504 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, because there's two characters in here 505 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: who barely talk, and I think you won't get it otherwise, 506 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like and uh and so uh so 507 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: I boarded that whole first episode, the roller coaster episode, 508 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 1: while I was on vacation in France with my wife's family, 509 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and we would all go out to the uh the 510 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: museums at the day or go down to the riviera 511 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: or whatever the hell we were doing, you know, and 512 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: then we've come back at uh at like uh, you know, 513 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: seven or eight at night, they'd make dinner at this 514 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: villa that that my mother in law had rented, and 515 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: then everybody would go to sleep and I would stay 516 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: up and start drawing and writing the roller coaster episode. 517 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: And then uh. And then Swampy was living in England 518 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: at the time, and I and I and I, so 519 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: we went by England for a couple of days and 520 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: he and I just put it out and just punched 521 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: it up and change, you know, like like did whatever 522 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: rewrites we wanted to do. And then I just pitched 523 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: it to them and they'd never had that happen. They'd 524 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: never had had an episode just pitched to them. And 525 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm good in a room, So I made everybody laugh, 526 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: and then the head of the channel. I pitched it 527 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: to the studio guy. And then the head of the 528 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: channel heard how much fun this pitch was and wanted 529 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: me to come and pitched to him and I got 530 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: to Gary. Yeah, Gary, Gary, we were I just had 531 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: lunch with Gary just after him. He looks much more 532 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: relaxed now. He's doing great. He's got he's got his 533 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: top button unbuttoned. In an industry where where studio presidents 534 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: change everything three months, he he was there forever the 535 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: channel for years through Yeah, through all the best stuff. 536 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: He's the one that we made. It was a great 537 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: guy episode. Yeah, so Phineas and Ferb is created internationally. 538 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: You had to take the chunnel to actually finish the peas. Yeah, 539 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: basically basically, and uh and we you know, And so 540 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I pitched it that way, and then other people wanted 541 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: to see a pitched and stuff, and my executive said, okay, 542 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: we also have to show this to Disney UK. Uh 543 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: should we write up a script now or should we 544 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: just send them on the boards? And I said, well, 545 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: neither is going to have the effect of me actually 546 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: pitching it. So I got in a room. I said, 547 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I said, tell you what, there's a there's a microphone 548 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: in the casting room down here. I'll just bring the 549 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: computer in because it's all on power points, it's all 550 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: scanned in, and I'll pretend I'm pitching it to a 551 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: room full of people into the microphone, and then I'll 552 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: take at and turn that into an animatic and so 553 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: so I went home that weekend and I edited all together, 554 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: and I and I you know, found some sound effects 555 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, and I would cut out stuff 556 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: that I felt like was absolutely unnecessary where I would 557 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: be describing something. But most of the time I'm just 558 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: like doing different voices for different characters and stuff, and 559 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: the and the duven Schmertz. And first of all, that's 560 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: the best selling tool that's ever existed. And as far 561 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: as I've been able to figure out, I invented it 562 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: the pitch reel, and lots of people have done that 563 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: since then, but I was the first person, I think, 564 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: to actually do that as a way of pitching their show. 565 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Like here's an episode like mostly finished, and and it 566 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: takes away any of their having to try to figure out. Yeah, 567 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: it's it's like, oh, how is this gonna how is 568 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: this going to be executed? They know how it's going 569 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: to be executed because they can see it. That's the 570 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: most In all fairness, you you are a rarity in 571 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: that there. I can do all those people can do 572 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: all of it. You know, I'm gonna draw, I'm gonna 573 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: sing the song, I'm gonna do the voice. I mean, 574 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: that's like that I mean, there's you know, Seth McFarland, 575 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: there's a handful of people that can do that, and 576 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even can draw the way the way that 577 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: you can draw. He can, he can draw, but he 578 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: would not have probably been able to use an editing software. 579 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: So that's a verity to kind of say, I'm going 580 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: to go in and I'm gonna do essentially do the 581 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: entire thing one man bandit to to figure out what's 582 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: going on. And I've sold them three shows now and 583 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: I've sold them all the same way by going in 584 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: and just I'm just gonna get like, you know, part 585 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: of it is that I don't really like the process 586 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: of development. I don't like the here's the script, will 587 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: get some notes changes like I don't want to do 588 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: that for a year. I just want to show them 589 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: what the show I want and let them decide whether 590 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: they want that show and and and so so that's 591 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: what I've done. I've got I've gone through development three 592 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: times and never had to go through develop element because 593 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I just like, here it is crazy to yell now, 594 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, you must know Bob and Mark, right, yes, yes, 595 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: I just remember we had a lot of notes on 596 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: Kim we did. I mean, we always had something going 597 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: on and we would send it, you know, overseas for animation, 598 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and our a R process would sometimes from episode to 599 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: episode be very lengthy. Um, that's normal. I mean, you know, 600 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: you do. We have a lot of because I'm but 601 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: it's because I'm rewriting, It's not because the executives are rewriting. 602 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: But Bob and Park were also cut from the original 603 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of cloth of But who are They're wonderful writers, 604 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: the greatest guys you'll ever meet, great producers. But they're 605 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: not going to get into a room and start singing 606 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: songs and playing, you know, doing your voices quieter they 607 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: are there. They are much much quieter guys. Um. So 608 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: then let me ask you a question. Well, let's very quickly. 609 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: Would you rather it? Uh? If you had you had 610 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: a choice, somebody came to you right now and said, 611 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: you get to produce and draw or you get to 612 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: voice act. You can't do both, which one do you pick? 613 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: I think I would want to produce and draw. I 614 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: think as much fun as voice acting is, and it's 615 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, I think that I would get 616 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: a little board just voice acting for somebody else's show 617 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: where you know, you know, like like a lot of 618 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: duven Schwirtz uh, you know in Dufen Schmarts came from 619 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: that pitch reel. In answer to your earlier question, like 620 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: the executive said, I think you should do differen Schmarts 621 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: because you should. We should do that voice that you're 622 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: doing in the in the ice real so um and 623 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: I love that character. And but so much of the 624 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: lines that we hear on TV for him were me 625 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: making stuff up in the editing room because what we 626 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: were getting wasn't quite what you're like, Oh, I think 627 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: maybe we should go this way with it. What if 628 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: his what if what he's trying to do is this? 629 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: And I would just like I would, I would do 630 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, I would. I would make something up about 631 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: girl Scott's trying to buy me cookies and stuff and 632 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: uh and then I then I would have to then 633 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: a d R it and match it exactly. And definitely 634 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: first has a lot of he's doing a lot of stammering, 635 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: and so I would have to account he's not doing 636 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, like I would have to match 637 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: my own, you know, gobbledygook that I just made up 638 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: on the spot. Rightly exactly. So now, how did you 639 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: come up with that voice? Is that? Had you been 640 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: doing that most of your life? You hear that a 641 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of people. It's like, I kind of did this 642 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: voice forever. I guess I didn't. You know. My sister 643 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: tells me that that's the voice I would use when 644 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: we were kids, and if we were playing some pretend 645 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: thing where I was the bad guy and she was 646 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: the good guy, I would always use that voice. I 647 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: didn't remember that, but she says, no, just it was 648 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: like you to me. E G Daily said the same thing. 649 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: Will e G said that when she was a baby 650 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: that she would when she got a little bit older, 651 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: she would make these baby sounds and that's what influenced 652 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: her for Tommy Pickles And I know you also directed 653 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: for rug Grads and whatnot. I did not direct for Rugs. 654 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: That's that's that's it's on MYMB. It's absolutely yeah, that's 655 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: my favorite things. It still says that that's one of 656 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: the few shows I didn't work on. Yeah, but let's talk. 657 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it says my my my nephew was 658 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: going to was applying to Occidental out here and he 659 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: got the packet from Occidental and it says notable celebrity alumni. 660 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: There's my name fourth down and I looked. He called 661 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: me and he went, you went to Occidental. I went, 662 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: I did, yes, Occidental. As far as I'm concerned at 663 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: this point, if they've been using me to recruit I 664 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: get an honorary degree. Should This is a perfect segue 665 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: into the other things you've done, because you have a 666 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, Phineas and Ferb obviously enormous. But we just 667 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: talked about how you were the creator of rug Rats. Um, 668 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: thank you. There's a whole online thing on TikTok because 669 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: this one creator has continued this running joke that she 670 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: says that I created the minions. She's always thanking me 671 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: for creating the minions, which I did not do. But 672 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: I get thanks for the Minions all the time and 673 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: TikTok's and I'm like, I had nothing to do with 674 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: the minions. Okay. So to to clear it up, then 675 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: here on I hear voices you created rug Rats, you 676 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: created the Minions and Despicable Me. That's too all those 677 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: things did you also? So let's see if if you 678 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: worked on Hey Arnold. I worked on Hey Arnold almost 679 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: every thing else on I am dB is correct, directed 680 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: on Hey Arnold Bungebob. Yes, I wrote and directed on SpongeBob. 681 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Family Guy. Family Guy was a director for six seasons 682 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't even need to name. And I was the 683 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: story Yeah, so the family Guy. I was not only 684 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: the direct in my own episodes, but I was storyboard supervisor, 685 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: which meant that that that Seth would do this thing 686 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: where that he called punting to pap and Meyer because 687 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: he quickly realized that I have the same sense of 688 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: humor as him and drew the same way he would 689 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: like to draw up. He had the time and uh, 690 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: and so he would do any musical number or any 691 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: like thing that he just needed a big bunch of 692 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: visual gags. He would just say, and then Dan's gonna 693 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: put in a bunch of visual gags here, and he 694 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: would just give it to me and let me go. 695 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: So I was the only guy on the on the 696 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: artist's side who was also sort of writing for the show. 697 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: He called me their rider. Now, did you do any 698 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: voices on Family That was a great gig? No, No, 699 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: Family Guys a great gig. Not a Family Guy's a 700 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: great gig. It's it's it's a good gig. So okay, 701 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: so again not to not to Desert Island you again, 702 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: But if you all the shows you've done, is there 703 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: one you look back at and it's kind of like 704 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: that's the show for me, that's how I look, you know, 705 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: my career, that's that show. I think that would have 706 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: to be Phineas and for I think, okay, I think 707 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: that that feels the most like me. Although this this 708 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: new one I'm doing, I'm doing one called Hamstern Gretel 709 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: for for the Channel right now. It's premiering something. Is 710 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: it even the channel anymore? Isn't It is the Channel, 711 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: but it's also a Disney Plus. It's Disney Plus where 712 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: it's it's oh my god. I went there. Okay, I 713 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: was in. I was in l a not to side, 714 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: went to the Channel it and it's tried. Nobody was there, 715 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: nobody's there's black and white, no color, no page. Yes, no, 716 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: Gary's not there. I would went in, I got my Starbucks, 717 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: thought I could crash four whatever it was, and it 718 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: was like, I haven't been back to the studio. I 719 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: haven't been back to the studio since that friday that 720 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: they had us had us leave two years ago. So 721 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: I have friends at work at Disney. They're still doing 722 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: everything remote, so it's there. They're starting. They're just now 723 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: this month is starting to get some other some productions 724 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: back in there, and I was thinking, why can't they 725 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: just let us all come in, and they said, well, 726 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: the computers are over two years old now and they've 727 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: been sitting, so they like the problem is is that 728 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: they are trying to replace all the computer systems and 729 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: that's what's taking a long time. So that's why they're 730 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: doing one production at a time. And we're like the 731 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: you know, we're like late July. I think we're going 732 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: so nobody nobody's turned on the Starship Enterprise in two 733 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: years and they don't know what crank up the nescells again. Excellent. Actually, 734 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: actually I sort of lined before because last week I 735 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: went to go find something at the studio and I 736 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: had to like like planned three days in advance so 737 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: if they would actually grant me access to the studio. 738 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: And it was like this weird ghost place. It was. 739 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: It was really strange, and I'm like I got were 740 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: in my office, it was like absolutely silent there, and 741 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: somebody had like I have a whole shelf full of 742 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: Phineas toys and somebody had obviously cleaned the shelf and 743 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: put them back into like much better arrangement than I have. 744 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I was like, put some real care into this. And 745 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: then I went and I and I was like, oh, 746 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: I should see it. I should, and I filmed it. 747 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: I was like, how badly out of tune with my 748 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: guitar be? After two years? And I picked it up 749 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: and it was in tune. So that means whoever cleaned 750 00:40:48,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: the room they walked around, that's exactly what it is. 751 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Somebody picked it up and said, no, no, we gotta 752 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna tune this. And I was I was like 753 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: that trauma, was like, oh my god, it was. It 754 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: wasn't perfectly in tune, but it was not two years? 755 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Was two years out of tude? All right? Since we're 756 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: talking Phineas, I think we would get our fans would 757 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: be very upset if we did not ask where did 758 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: it come from? Where? I mean, how did that start? Where? 759 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: Where did the ideas start? And how did it go 760 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: from there? Phineas was it was swampy and I trying 761 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: to create, you know, like we've been thrown together as 762 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: a writing team. And we loved writing together. We're like, 763 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: let's just create a show together and then we'll just 764 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: get to write together for the rest of our careers. 765 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: And then it took like thirteen years to sell it. 766 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, really it took years. Uh here, hold on 767 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: one second, Yeah, definitely, I have the original. Oh this 768 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: is cool, this is gonna be cool. Everybody. Wow, only 769 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: on I hear voices? Do you get this kind of 770 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: guess this kind of what you know? Why? I can 771 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: honestly tell you what it's because it's we're nerds and 772 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: we love this stuff and love look at that. We 773 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: will have to take a screenshot and put this on 774 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: our Instagram. So that is the original. That's the original. 775 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: And it was and it was a a one of 776 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: those those butcher paper tablecloths they give you at some 777 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: restaurants where they give you a little can of crayons 778 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: to do all the while you're it's so it's drawn 779 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: in purple crayon on on on my table cloth. And 780 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: I liked it so much I told my my my 781 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: wife said, oh, who's that? And I was like, this 782 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: is Phineas. This is this show I'm going to sell someday. As. 783 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: That was those were the actual words I said on 784 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: that occasion, and I tore it off and I took 785 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: it home and I drew Perry the Platypus and Dufin 786 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: Schmarts and ferb that night, and I took those four 787 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: drawings into work the next day and swamping and I 788 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: built the whole room around that. That's unbelievable. And you 789 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: still have it, which is the thing. I still have 790 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: it all these years, so sure. And and what's funny 791 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: is that I had lost it for a long time. 792 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: I had no idea where that was. And then within 793 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: a week, I think it was the week that the 794 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: show finally got its official green light. That weekend, we 795 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: were planning a yard sale and I was going through 796 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: boxes and stuff like that, and in between two books 797 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: was this drawing and I was like, I was like, 798 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it now, and I went and got it 799 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: framed and and stuff. So that is that is a 800 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: piece of animation in Hollywood history right there. That is very, 801 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: very cool, very so. The other thing, we are about 802 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes away, so I don't know if 803 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: you're aware of what we do, but we do something 804 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of fun here on the show where a guest 805 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: gets to come in and you know, Christine and I 806 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: go to a lot of conventions and we deal with 807 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,959 Speaker 1: we we get to to meet a lot of people 808 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: who want to be voice over actors and don't know 809 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: how to go about it and and don't really get 810 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity. So what we do is we have somebody 811 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: come on he wants to be a voice over actor, 812 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: and they get to do a little ad lib scene 813 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: and then we have a couple of lines of dialogue 814 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: that we have written for them. We have a little 815 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: game that we have called Across the Garden, and so 816 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: what it is is Christie and I are two little 817 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: mice that are trying to get from one side of 818 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: a garden to the other side of the garden, and 819 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: we're meeting all of these characters along the way. UH, 820 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: and they get to pick who they want, you know, 821 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: what kind of characters they want to be. We had 822 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: some some great ones. Phil Lamar was this awesome hummingbird. 823 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: He was great. We have some people that are vegetables. 824 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: And the last episode that we did, which was very 825 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: very cool, Andrea Romano came out of retirement and actually 826 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: directed some of UH. Directed one of the guests um, 827 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: so we have a guest coming on today, all all 828 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: the way from England. It's like one thirty in the 829 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 1: morning there right now. But they are going to come 830 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: on and uh and if it's okay with you, we're 831 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: just gonna do a little scene. And then once they 832 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do this. The hope is that 833 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: when the season is over, we're going to take all 834 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: these little segments and we are going to animate them 835 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: and people are gonna get to see themselves as cartoon 836 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: characters and characters that they've created. Because what do you 837 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: mean from me, am I supposed to be somebody in 838 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: this Yeah, we'd love you to be somebody. And so 839 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: where we are so far, if memory picking up where 840 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: we left off with our two mice uh mice characters, 841 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: we had just come around a very scary tree and 842 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: we are trying Christie's characters trying to get to the 843 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: mall uh to meet her boyfriend. She's like a gen z, 844 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, like whatever's and my character is just very 845 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: scared of everything and please because my little brother really annoying. 846 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: So we're very mellow and we're meeting all these crazy 847 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: along the way. You can be whoever you want to 848 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: be uh if you we always say you want to 849 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: be a woodled creature, you want to be a vegetable, 850 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: you want to be a human that's yelling down at 851 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: whatever you'd like to be. You are more than welcome. 852 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: And uh, I think gonna tell us before I'll be 853 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: I'll be a long known Oh yes, yes, Oh, I 854 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: love that so so much. That's awesome. And I think 855 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Elizabeth that we're gonna be bringing is it Jordy George? 856 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 1: There's George? How are you? Oh? I'm very well. Wow, 857 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: this is something that wasn't a thing earlier on. Now 858 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: we know that it is. It is very early in 859 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: the morning where you are right now, is it not? Oh? Yes, 860 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I am three cups of teas and so I'm I'm 861 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: all right, I'm wired and ready to record that. Like 862 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: any voice over actor in the world, it's nice to 863 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 1: this is how cool this podcast is and how amazing 864 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: our fans are. I had, you know, we needed to 865 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: get somebody today because we've been doing different scheduling, and 866 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: I put on my stories, which, by the way, Dan 867 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: knows a thing or two about engaging with his fans 868 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: on his TikTok, but I put on my stories, and 869 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: George was the person who I picked to be on 870 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: today's show. So George, let's explain what we're doing today. 871 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: That's how it happens. It's that fast. When I saw 872 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: your story, it was seven hours ago. Surely not. Yes, 873 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: is how fast the entertainment industry works. George. We need 874 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: an actor, we get an actor. That's how quick it is. 875 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: And you're a good fan, so thank you. That is amazing. 876 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're familiar with our with 877 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: our little game here and you're gonna play with Dan, 878 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: Pop and Meyer over here with George. Uh So, we 879 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: are going across the garden, and what it is is 880 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: Christy and I are two little mice trying to get 881 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: across the garden and we are trying to eat people 882 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: along the way who are helping us on our journey. 883 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: You each get to pick your character, So Dan is 884 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: going to be a garden gnome, which is kind of awesome. 885 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: And Jorgan, is there some kind of character you'd like 886 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: to be? And keep in mind it could be animal, vegetable, 887 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: or mineral, doesn't matter. You're allowed to pick whatever you want. 888 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: That is the joy of the world of animation is 889 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: you can be whatever you'd like to be, so we'll good. 890 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: Is none of that fair enough? I Am going to 891 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: be a dog that happens to be in the God 892 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: love that that. Does your dog have a name? O 893 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 1: the dog? The dog as in as in Garfield and Odi? Yes, 894 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: love that totally based on my actual dog called od. 895 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: Okay great. So what we're they gonna do is we 896 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: will do a very quick run of the scene, will 897 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: keep it real brief. And then I think you also 898 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: have some lines that we sent you, right, George, Yes, 899 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: So the first thing we're gonna do is we're just 900 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna do a quick ad lib scene and uh, and 901 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 1: then we're gonna come back to you and we're gonna 902 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: do a real vo session with you. We're gonna need 903 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: you to do the three lines three different times. We're 904 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: gonna give you a little direction and uh, just like 905 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: in a session, we're gonna go from there. Does that 906 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: work for you? Excellent? Is a dream come true. I've 907 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: always wanted to do this, So thank you. That's good, 908 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: very very cool. We cannot wait, all right, Christie, I 909 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: think we set the scene where last time. Oh, she's 910 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: already in character. She's like, yeah, last time as we 911 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: left off across the garden, memory serves we had just 912 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: rounded a very very nasty tree who didn't want us 913 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: to be anywhere near him. And we're still very far 914 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 1: away from the mall, aren't we, Christy take it away? Yeah? Okay, 915 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: so we're going to a mall and um, we're a 916 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: little lost right now. Would you come along? Come on? Yeah, 917 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: we're hiding. Maybe this garden Nome can help us. Excuse me, 918 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: Mr Nome, Please don't scare me. Um, we're trying to 919 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: get to the mall. Why why did you have to 920 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: go to the mall again? I told it doesn't matter. 921 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to keep talking about it. Okay, so 922 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: you're asking me for directions? Yeah, you realize I made 923 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: out of ceramic. I then moved from the spots, and well, 924 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: since they stuck me here, it's a point. I'm assuming 925 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: which way did you come from? Was there a mall 926 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: where you came from? There? Then maybe if you keep 927 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: going the direction you you're going, you're at least fifty 928 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: of the way there. Vague everything in that direction is 929 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: not a mall, is what I am saying. So everything 930 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: in this direction might be a mall because that's the 931 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: direction you're going. Would you like us to try to 932 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: spin you around? Are you happy with your direction? Actually? 933 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: If if you could give me just like a quarter turn, 934 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: because I'm just trying to do the other side of 935 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: my face? Oh do you want to cart the other side? Okay, 936 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: go ahead going wait wait wait wait, no, No, that's 937 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: too much. Is the mall straight? The grass is nice? Okay, 938 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: grass is nice? I do not see them all straight up? 939 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: If that helps you at all. Hold on a second. 940 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: Aren't you that guy from TikTok? No, No, that's some 941 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: other guy entirely. I'm a much better looking guy than 942 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: that the TikTok nome. That guy's got like five point 943 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 1: eight million followers is awesome. Ye, there's a dog. There's 944 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: a dog calling. Oh hello. I noticed that you were 945 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: putting over hitty talk nome. I was wondering, how, how, what, why? 946 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: Why are you doing? Oh? God? I hate dogs. They're 947 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: so cute. Hi, what's hello? Hello? Hello? Mission? No, if 948 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: you could just turn over your ears, can hear my 949 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: name is and I am a lovely to dog. And 950 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: I hear that you want to go to a more Well, 951 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't they want to go to the mall. I 952 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: just want I just want to lay here in the 953 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: grass and hopefully not get peet on by a dog. 954 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: Well that's okay, you're not red and you're not a 955 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: fire hydrant. Excellent, pe down by a mouse because we're 956 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: kind of past that stage at this point. Okay, I 957 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: thought it was just the moisture of the grass green. 958 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: You just peed on the TikTok noo. Yeah, maybe then 959 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: i'll go viral. I didn't mean that. I'll show myself out, don't. Okay, 960 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: So can you see where we're going up there? Odi? Yeah, 961 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm a British little dog, so I called them shopping centers. 962 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: But I believe it's the one with the big target 963 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 1: red over there. That's it. That's it. Yes, that closed. 964 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: What you're gonna have to do closed? My boyfriend, the 965 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: rat is there. We have to go and see him 966 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 1: before he leaves. Are you telling you that it doesn't 967 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: exist anymore? Well, I'm telling you he had a rat 968 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: and he had liked to you. Or maybe just stay 969 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: with me on this. Maybe it's not closed for rats. 970 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's possible too, but yeah, maybe it's just people. 971 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know dogs. It's because you're a dog. That's why. 972 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: It's because I'm not a guide dog, and I don't 973 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: guide people because it's not helpful. It just made me 974 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: so upset and seen her. That was wonderful. Now, George, 975 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: very quickly, so you got you got the dialogue in 976 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: front of you, all right. So in the entertainment industry, 977 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: in the the the the voiceover world, we're doing a 978 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: B and C takes. So we're gonna give you give 979 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: us three takes of each line and switch it up. 980 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: Uh in between you know, the how you want to 981 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: what you want to emphasize or kind of energy you 982 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: want to give it. But give us that dialogue. We'll 983 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: do the first one first and go from there. You ready, 984 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: You're ready? All right, here you go. Here's number one. 985 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: Go for it and action. Yeah, oh avoid that guy 986 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: like the be avoid. Oh oh just stay away from him. Nice. 987 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: Give us one more and then uh instead of in 988 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: the middle, Uh, just give us kind of hemming and 989 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: hawing sounds like um something like that. Okay, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, 990 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 1: I avoid that guy like the be avoid. Um oh 991 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: I got nothing. Just stay away from him, perfect, see 992 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: take anything you want to do, just play. Yeah, I 993 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: avoid that guy like the beach. Avoid Oh what's shoving? 994 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: Really clever? Oh look Kevin, I've got nothing. Just stay 995 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: away from him. Perfect, as they would say in the booth, 996 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: Circle the sea. Take all, right, now you got here's 997 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: your second line again, give us an a take? Here 998 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: you go? Is that the more with the good food 999 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: court and the two forever twenty one? Doesn't that make 1000 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: it forty two? Right? How about one more kind of 1001 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: to yourself and a little quicker? Is that the movement 1002 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: a good food court and the two forever twenty ones? 1003 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 1: Doesn't that make it forty two? Awesome? Give us a seat, 1004 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: take anything you want to do it? Is that the 1005 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: most slash shopping shed with the food court and the 1006 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: two forever twenty one, which me age a British question 1007 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: never never heard of? Doesn't that make it forty two? 1008 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: Circling the sea? Take again? I think we've seen that 1009 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: when you let George go, that's when you get the 1010 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 1: best take. Let's try Robin Williams. Let's Williams. Let's try 1011 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: your your third line here? Take it away. You think 1012 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: you've got problems. My best friend ran off with my 1013 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 1: wife and you really mean him? Give us an it's perfect. 1014 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: Give us another one. You think you've got problems. My 1015 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: best friend ran off with my wife and oh, I 1016 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: really mick him. And now the seat take anything you 1017 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: want to do. You think you've got problems. My best 1018 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: friend ran off with my wife and I really miss him. 1019 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: When he just struck my back. Oh there we go, George. 1020 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: You killed it. You kill you. Mike dropped got into 1021 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: the booth and you killed it, my friend. Thank you 1022 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: so much for for hanging out with us, and uh 1023 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: for for sharing this with us. We think that's great. 1024 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh, thank you for the opportunity for me 1025 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: to come in. I've been watching What k Pieces She 1026 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't Too. KP started when I was starting second we school, 1027 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: high school, and it finished when I left school. So 1028 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: it was literally the perfect program for me to find 1029 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: myself and to become who I am today. And Dad, Parvameyer, 1030 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: thank you for pos for your new show. Oh, thank you, 1031 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: thank you very much. That is so cool. George, thank 1032 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: you for staying up with us. Hopefully after your three 1033 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: cups of tea, you're gonna be able to sleep now. 1034 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: But you killed it and we can't wait till you 1035 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: get to actually see yourself animated. H and Odi the 1036 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: dog comes to life because you're the one who who 1037 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: gave him life. My friend, that's awesome. I did not 1038 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: know that. I'm even more. Just wait, we're working on it. 1039 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thank 1040 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: you everybody. Awesome. Wow, that was so unbelievably cool. Oh man, 1041 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: I love doing that. It is fun. Now, Dan, you 1042 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: do have this new show coming out. Do you want 1043 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: to talk about that or can you? It's it's coming 1044 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: out on the Channel and on Disney Plus. I don't 1045 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: think I can give you a date yet, but it's 1046 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: but it's. Uh. Sometimes I think this summer and uh 1047 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: and we are. I'm really thrilled with it. I think 1048 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: it's it's got all the humor of Phineas and Ferb, 1049 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: but it's also got a bunch of action. It's also 1050 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: got a bunch of heart. It's really about a family 1051 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: in a way that none of the none of the 1052 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: other shows really were and uh. And it's about a 1053 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: brother and sister who are are quite quite a few 1054 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: years apart. The brother can drive, and he's been waiting 1055 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: to get his license so that he can be out 1056 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: on the open road and in charge of his destiny, 1057 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: and of course he gets in license and then he 1058 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: just becomes the chauffeur to his little his little sister, 1059 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: which is what happened to me when I was growing up. 1060 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: I had a sister that was ten years younger than me, 1061 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: and I just became her, Like, Okay, you're going to 1062 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: soccer practice, let's go. You know, It's like I became that. 1063 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: But in the midst of that, they're on the road 1064 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: one day and they get, uh, they get stopped by 1065 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: aliens that that tell them that they that the two 1066 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: of you have been chosen to receive superpowers, and they 1067 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: shoot them with this beam and he's like, this is great. Well, 1068 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: you like, like we're gonna be a brother sister superhero team, 1069 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: you and me, and then uh, but unfortunately the superpowers 1070 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: go on to Gretel, the sister and her pet hamster, 1071 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: who happens to be in the car, which causes a 1072 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: little preaching. But but so that this series is really 1073 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: just about sort of the two of them and the hamster, uh, 1074 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, and he's still the older brother and still 1075 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: still feels very protective of her and wants to, you know, 1076 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: make sure she's okay and guide her and and she's 1077 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: all in an impulse and she doesn't really need protection 1078 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: because she can lift a school bust bus over her head. 1079 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: But he becomes like the guy on the headphones in 1080 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the in the in the van, you know, telling her 1081 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: which way to go and like, you know, some of 1082 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: the brains of the team. He's the chair guy, and 1083 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: we're having the best time with apparently got the best uh, 1084 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: the best audience scores in the in the focus tests 1085 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: since the original Phineas, So the executives are really excited 1086 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: about it, the channel is really excited about it, and 1087 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm having just the time of my life. I think 1088 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: that's amazing. And where can people find you? Social media wise? 1089 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm Dan pav and meyer at on TikTok. I'm Dan 1090 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Pavar Twitter Sometimes I don't need Twitter or Instagram as much, uh, 1091 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: and I'm YouTube. Why are you on TikTok? TikTok? TikTok 1092 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: is so much more fun than any than any social 1093 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: media that I've ever attempted. And you know, it's it's 1094 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: and you know part of it is that that's where 1095 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: all the Phineas and ferb fans. You know, it's like 1096 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: like you know, I didn't grow much on Twitter or 1097 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Instagram after the show stopped, but I did like one 1098 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: TikTok and where I did the Douf voice and it 1099 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: got like two million views, and I was like, oh, 1100 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: this is where all like I thought people just forgotten 1101 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: about the show. And I was like, I was fine, 1102 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: it had its day, you know, and I suddenly realized 1103 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: there's this rabid following of people who just love that show. 1104 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: But the other is like, I get to make little 1105 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: movies all the time. I get to you know, I 1106 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: get to you know, like plan and edit and perform 1107 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: in these little movies and I'm just I'm just having 1108 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the most fun. And as soon as I started doing 1109 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: stuff on and I grew so fast. I had, like 1110 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I had I had a million followers within like the 1111 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: first two months, um, you know, and it was like, 1112 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: which was so much more than I've ever you know, 1113 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I think I have a hundred thousand on on Twitter, 1114 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: which is a great number of Like I would have 1115 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: been really thrilled to that to have that number back 1116 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: in the day, and uh uh. And so now I 1117 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: just do That's what I do with my spare time. 1118 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: You know. The pandemic made it very easy to do that. 1119 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Now I'm running a show again. I started. I started 1120 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: doing it when we were in the end of the 1121 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Phineas and for a movie that we did for for 1122 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Disney plus Candice against the University on Disney plus hundred 1123 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 1: percents Rotten Tomatoes ratings, just just gonna throw it out there. 1124 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: But but you know, so I was everything was winding down, 1125 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: and that would usually be a time in between shows 1126 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: where I would sort of feel depressed and like like 1127 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 1: really just like, oh man, you know, and uh, and 1128 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: now you know, and because of TikTok, I was able 1129 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to throw myself into something else and you're like, I 1130 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: can rein screen. I was learning a lot of new 1131 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: things about the editing program and and uh and doing 1132 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: skits with my daughters and and uh, you know, promoting 1133 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the show, promoting the movie, and it was just so 1134 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: much fun. It kept me sane during that time where 1135 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I would have otherways been been stuck inside a house, 1136 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, for for a year and uh. And so 1137 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: so I've just had the best time. I'm so addicted 1138 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: to It's the first thing I do in the morning 1139 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: is I checked my mentions and me too. I don't know, 1140 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'm fighting a losing battle here. I don't know 1141 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I might have to do, you know, are you not 1142 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: TikTok I I have no social media presence whatsoever. I 1143 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: don't really have I don't even have Facebook. I have nothing. 1144 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Will Yeah, I love that. And also what I think 1145 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: it's cool about data is that, like all of that 1146 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: live action stuff that you wanted to do, it's like 1147 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: a part of that. In year, it's so nice to 1148 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: see when the fans react so organically to every you know, 1149 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: to your legacy. And I think it's really cool that. Yeah, 1150 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: and it's cool. It's cool to see that, you know, Like, 1151 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: but there's all these songs that we wrote, you know, 1152 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: for Phineas, we wrote a song for every eleven minute. 1153 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I wrote four five hundred songs for Disney at this point. 1154 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: And uh, and there's all these songs that we wrote 1155 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: in you know, there's a song called Busted where I 1156 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: just was looking it up the other day on TikTok. 1157 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: And there's hundreds of thousands of videos not views. Is 1158 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: that the videos that people did. Huh, Yeah, the wrap 1159 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: one was a huge that was a huge trend on 1160 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: on TikTok. There were the hundreds of thousands of those. 1161 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: There was like hundreds of millions of of of views 1162 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: for that. But just watching people doing like Busted was 1163 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: great because there's a whole choreography that I drew for it, 1164 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: and it's it was Candice and Vanessa, these two characters, 1165 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: and and it's like a shot like a music video, 1166 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's just this fun little pop song. Then 1167 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: me and Martin Olsen wrote in an hour in two 1168 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: thousand five, and there's and so like people doing cool 1169 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: harmony parts of it and stuff like that. It's so 1170 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: cool to see that these songs have really stood the 1171 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: test of time. You know, there was a guy who 1172 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: was at Lollapalooza with his band and played the Phineas 1173 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: and ferb theme songs like just a surprise thing for them, 1174 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: And it's this sea of people who goes off into 1175 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the horizon and they're all freaking singing along and maybe 1176 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I like burst into tears and I'm like crying, and 1177 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: my wife comes out and she's like, what's going on. 1178 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: It's like watch this and then she started crying. It's 1179 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: it's it's just cool to see that that the show 1180 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: meant so much to so many people, like like the 1181 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: guy said, you know, Kim Possible defined this part of 1182 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: his childhood and that's what that's what you get when 1183 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: you do kids TV. As you get people growing up 1184 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: and they and and nostalgia for them is the thing 1185 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: that you made. And uh and you know that's amazing. 1186 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, man, well thank you so much for 1187 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: joining us. Yeah to say, lasting the test of time 1188 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: and generational are as an understatement. It's around. However, that's awesome, 1189 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: whole new generations to finding it with all the streaming 1190 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: services and everything going on. So that's really pretty wonderful. Well, 1191 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 1: will you come back and join us again? I feel 1192 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: like we have scratch the surfing studio in studio next 1193 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: next time you're in all come into the studio. Thanks 1194 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: to you, alright. I Hear Voices assosted by Wilfred Ell 1195 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: and Gristi Garls and Romano, produced by Elizabe Joy Windham 1196 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: and executive produced by Brendan Rooney and Wilfred l. 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