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Speaker 1: God, we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're back.

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Speaker 1: Look at their faces, Look look at them all out there.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be done.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: We're here one hundred and six episodes in, and the

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets are the hottest team in the league. The

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Speaker 1: we're here to discuss that and the state of the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks with NBA analyst Ti Windish on today's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm files great and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is.

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Speaker 4: All right, hep, we're here. Ty Wendis is in the building.

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Speaker 4: You cover the Bucks via the euro Steps.

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Speaker 5: Great pronunciation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, however people pronounce it if

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Speaker 6: they listen to the show.

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Speaker 5: It's fine by me.

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Speaker 1: Where you want to row regional, but people, some people

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Speaker 1: can roll the R and I think that's yea, but

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Speaker 1: I can't even do it. Yeah, so step past Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Blue Wire and the you Step podcast network. Anyway, Ty,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Man. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys for having me despite my my tardiness

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Speaker 6: on the show. They don't know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to be honest. I wanted to be

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Speaker 6: audio honest with the listeners.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to be honest and and you're also honest.

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Speaker 2: Guy Jami is just being.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 6: I can't hear that now when I whenever I hear

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Speaker 6: someone say be honest, I think of be honest because

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Speaker 6: I'm like to that broken stage of Bucks fandom.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: I get covering, podcasting, you know what, not fandom maybe.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I get that we should be honest

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Speaker 2: with me, honest, don't do it, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: We're having a serious discussion right now.

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Speaker 2: I am being I am being honest.

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Speaker 1: Being fanastis with you.

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Speaker 2: What that doesn't even.

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Speaker 1: Work, I know, But you were gonna get mad if

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Speaker 1: I said, Yiannis that I had to let you thinking

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: You're being all fanasty with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, according to my analysis, this is what is

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Speaker 1: going on. That's his podcast right the now.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, so the live show with Steve and

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Speaker 6: I Smith, they're they're doing big things right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Bucks for twenty five looks pretty long. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the two seed. I mean unless something wild and wild

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Speaker 1: and crazy happens. But I don't never happened to.

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Speaker 6: The Bucks and the twenty three twenty four seas, and

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Speaker 6: that would arm so far.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, but yeah, I mean, like Doc Rivers coming in,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were like this, the right thing

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Speaker 1: will happened? Why is he here? Fourteen to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Under were mocking him when they were asking that. That's

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Speaker 2: why they were asking the questions about him. In his voice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't do it. It was more like Robert Muller.

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Speaker 1: I think what I was doing one time.

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Speaker 6: In college, I had like totally lost my voice for

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Speaker 6: reasons I will not specify in this podcast, Okay, and

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Speaker 6: I could do a perfect for like one day and

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Speaker 6: it was like the best day of my life. Obviously

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Speaker 6: far before he was the Bucks coach, but we all

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Speaker 6: know he was so distinctive, like my voice had to

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Speaker 2: Like has his voice always been like that? I was

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Speaker 2: coaching wear and tear. But then in like earlier in

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Speaker 5: It's permanent like that now.

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Speaker 6: But what's a great question that I'm actually going to

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Speaker 6: research after this pod is like when in life did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet there's a lot of conspiracy theories, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Get do Rivers left them asunder?

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow, A true poet and don't you but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think it was like the third or fourth game

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Speaker 6: ten years. So again like the record is what it is,

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Speaker 6: and there was some tough road trip moments with Doc.

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Speaker 6: much time after Kevin Durant ended up in his landing area,

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Speaker 6: so Chris sprained the ankle and the Bucks are just

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Speaker 6: prohibitively careful with Chris Middleton. But yeah, it's hard to

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Speaker 5: He had to go out again. It was just kind

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Speaker 6: that through the trio of them I saw Frank Madden

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Speaker 6: They just haven't played all that often together, especially not

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Speaker 5: But I do think this Bucks team, you know.

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Speaker 6: If they can stay healthy, which has been their biggest

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Speaker 6: if for like three years, they're in a pretty good

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Speaker 2: Is it true that Adrian Griff was trying to install

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Speaker 6: Is that I heard they wanted to do the ring

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that never goes big with the veteran NBA teams.

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Speaker 5: Which is why we're to play all the young guys.

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Speaker 6: They would buy into some of these crazy pyramid plays

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to like picture what the practices

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Speaker 6: it just was not working and they gave up the most.

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Speaker 6: I think they were last in the NBA and points

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Speaker 5: But yeah they did. They did.

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Speaker 6: Literally they ran around in a circle and danced and

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Speaker 5: But it was like, very much like Joe, Okay, they

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Speaker 6: This is like not this was not a surprise to

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Speaker 2: I guess it sounds like a witch is coming to me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, like you said, seventeen and eight without

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Speaker 1: it's like when Middleton is not there, it's things start

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Speaker 1: because yeah, you're you're gonna need Chris Middleton, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: the postseason to really kind of recreate the kinds of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 6: I think you look at you know it just logically,

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Speaker 6: I think their their biggest are their worst moments without

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Speaker 6: And just the level of confidence you have in the

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Speaker 6: the Dame and Gianni's action. There's been three Bucks offensive

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Speaker 6: or a Brook Lopez or Milik Beasley. Nothing that those

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Speaker 6: bunch of big ass SISS games this season. It's just

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Speaker 6: such a stronger offense and it makes it so much

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Speaker 6: harder I think for defenses to key in on Damon.

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Speaker 5: Be honest, and we've.

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Speaker 6: Seen I mean again, they've they've been dominant when they

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Speaker 2: How make me feel confident in rooting for the Bucks

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think it really does come down to those three players, specifically,

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Speaker 6: And that's been the real thing that I think we've

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Speaker 5: Which has been great to see.

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Speaker 6: He's been an elite three pull up three point shooter

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Speaker 6: I mean you look at when those Giannis played the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it all right. I Mean my instinct

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Speaker 5: Let's just see right like he looked dead. That's never

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm in what what I mean, like, what effect

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Speaker 1: We get to see honest Shaye looked. He only had

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Speaker 2: People are like I was watching, I was like, he

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Speaker 8: I think, I think, yeah, yeah, but like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like I think, we there's so much reactionary stuff that

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Speaker 1: it's nothing but unhinged reactions. It's like this guy was

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Speaker 2: But anyway, it can be less.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't get to the stripe. Don't how many

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Speaker 5: Man, I feel like it's just furned it up for you,

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Speaker 6: I think was already it could become first place, and

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Speaker 5: I'm very interested to see that game.

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Speaker 5: I hope serious.

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Speaker 6: I like when they played the top teams well and competitively.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's.

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Speaker 6: I'll get in trouble, but I really don't want to

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Speaker 6: But on the other hand, they've got the top net

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Speaker 6: They're still very good when their main players play, they're

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Speaker 6: I think I'm more okay with that than if someone

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Speaker 5: I do think.

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Speaker 6: I do think you should have to be a certain

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Speaker 5: I think Jokic is.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure Shaye is there yet, although he's was

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Speaker 2: Is Jiannis meenor this season?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that just the a handful of stories

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Speaker 6: I mean the way their playoff runs have gone the

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Speaker 5: You blow it. But you know, no one likes to

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Speaker 6: One of your best three players didn't play a single

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Speaker 5: Know, ye you lose those most of the time, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Then last year he gets kind of hurt, but still

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Speaker 5: He's probably done. Is Dame going to be their best

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Speaker 1: That's actually well, my friend group texts actually who are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: They are those people don't by the Bucks organization to

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Speaker 5: I don't think he.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he actually sees it. I don't really

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want the franchise player.

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Speaker 6: I don't read the everyone's an idiot on the stay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how last question on the Bucks, how do you

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Speaker 5: If you get fouled and then pull up, they're saying

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Speaker 6: Although I do feel like it's been legislated pretty tough

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Speaker 6: really I mean, they're getting away with it. They're allowed

444
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Speaker 6: to defend more physically, and guys like Malik had to

445
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 6: step up and be their wing defender just because gotta.

446
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 5: Looked her out and Okay, there's nobody else to do it.

447
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 6: I guess it's me, and props to him for taking

448
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 6: that on. That's certainly not his rep but uh, I

449
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 6: think it's allowed them to lean into that, to own

450
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 6: the paint more, to be more physical contesting at the rim,

451
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 6: and it's it's really I think, kind of bringing back

452
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 6: their culture from a few years ago when they were

453
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Speaker 6: going to the finals.

454
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Speaker 2: Man, I hate when I'm like in a situation, I

455
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 2: look around and I'm like, oh, I'm a muscle. I'm

456
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: a muscle. That's right, Okay, all right, guys, I guess

457
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 2: I'd better take care of.

458
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Speaker 1: This, Luca.

459
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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, all right, Let's let's take a quick

460
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Speaker 2: break and we'll come back and talk about the rest

461
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 2: of the league. We'll be right back, and we're back.

462
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: We're back.

463
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: Miles just said bring us back, Daddy to me and

464
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: just felt good. Cool. Anyways, we weren't even check them

465
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: with with ah, I'm a little I'm a little out

466
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: of sort.

467
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: Exactly.

468
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: They come there my stomach, but they come up through

469
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: my throat. It happens, it happens. We wanted to check

470
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: in with teams who have already beat their win total

471
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: projections for this season, who because it's easy to lose sight,

472
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: like we're like, oh, yeah, okay's good this year. Right,

473
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: we knew that Minnesota is good this year. Okay, See

474
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: in Minnesota have both already beat their win total projections

475
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Speaker 2: for the whole season by five wins. Wow, they're already

476
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: five wins. That's the most of I guess them and

477
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 2: the Magic are but are tied. All all three of

478
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: those teams are already five wins above their projection for

479
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: the whole season with like a dozen games left. About

480
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: the Rockets, who were about to talk about are already

481
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: over their win total by three. You know it's they said,

482
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: they said, you know, coaching doesn't really matter that much anymore.

483
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: It's all about the players. But this guy just gets

484
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: it done. Yeah. I will say though, Boston had the

485
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: I think we're projected to have the most wins in

486
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: the whole league this year in the preseason, and they've

487
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: already beat their win total by two Jesus like they

488
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: were objected to be the best team in the league

489
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: and with twelve games left, they've already beat their projections.

490
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: Pacers already two wins up on their projection. Pelicans just

491
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: hit theirs or are about to. But the Rockets let's

492
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: talk about the Rockets there. They've won eight in a

493
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Speaker 2: row and now they're just a game back of the

494
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Speaker 2: Warriors and some other team from the West whose name

495
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

496
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: People talk about very often.

497
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to forget who they are, you know,

498
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: as the bottom of the plan. But they the Warriors

499
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: are looking not great, and you have.

500
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Speaker 5: To say, you're not scared of the team behind you.

501
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 6: You're not in a good spot a franchise typically that's

502
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 6: not you never want to.

503
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: Hear that, right, right, Remember the beginning of the season,

504
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: just like in terms of like getting some perspective on

505
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: this season, the Warriors were like kept getting into fights

506
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: with the Timberwolves, and people were like, I think this

507
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: means like the Warriors are taking the Wolves seriously. And

508
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: now it's like, yeah, no, the Wolves are way better

509
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: in the Golden State by like quite a bit, by yeah,

510
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: a healthy margin. They didn't need. They weren't doing the

511
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: Wolves any favors by being like, that's it, we're taking

512
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: you seriously enough to like cheap shot you. So I

513
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: don't know. The Warriors have hadn't had plenty of fun,

514
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: so I don't feel too terrible for their franchise. No,

515
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: but yeah they the Rockets are storming from behind, and

516
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 2: I think they might do it. I think they might

517
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: get into the play in in EMA's first season there

518
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: and Jalen Green Man Jalen Green.

519
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 6: As if Nets fans haven't had it bad enough this season,

520
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 6: we have to get this another round of reporting of like, oh, yeah,

521
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 6: they wanted to trade Jalen Green there just so you

522
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 6: guys know, enjoy firmly eleventh in the East and he's

523
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 6: on an absolute tear and kind into that potential people

524
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 6: saw for him. It does make you think though about

525
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 6: these young guards, like how many people wrote off Scoot

526
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 6: Henderson already.

527
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: It's like it takes time man, especially guards on the ball, I.

528
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 6: Feel like take the longest usually, And it's been really

529
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Speaker 6: fun to watch Jalen Green from the recent announced to

530
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 6: be later to see Gee League Knight team.

531
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Speaker 5: Go on this crazy roud.

532
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 6: I mean, the schedule has help the Rockets for sure,

533
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 6: but I think that's a player who people have kind of.

534
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 5: Been waiting for more to happen.

535
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 6: And I always like to see those guys who have

536
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 6: been kind of gone through the already gone through a

537
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: news cycle because the NBA is the NBA of like

538
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: he's done. He was he's a boss, you know, bad

539
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 6: pick whatever. To see those guys come out and play, well,

540
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 6: I'm always like that's cool, good for you.

541
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I remember we were like what, I mean,

542
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: what's Fred van Vliet doing going down there? And like

543
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Dylan Brooks like are they for real?

544
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's they were like overpaying, but not like

545
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: maxing out overpaying. It was just like that's a lot

546
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: for him, but it's not. It turns out it's not

547
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: that they haven't really overspent and they're not like locked

548
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: in for I don't know, it feels okay, they feel

549
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: like they're in a good position.

550
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's like they just got the right just

551
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: just enough vet in there, yeah, to make it all

552
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: make it all click for them. And I think a

553
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: part of me, I mean, I'm I was talking with

554
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: producers Jo Bar, I'm like, do we want to play

555
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: the Warriors or do we want to play the Rockets

556
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: or are we even are we going to fail? Are

557
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: we even gonna be? I don't know, but I am.

558
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: I am partially terrified of the Rockets a little bit

559
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: more than the Warriors. I mean, they're both equally horrifying,

560
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: but like just knowing. Like at first Jabar was like,

561
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then Shinnoo might be back in my way.

562
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a season ending injury.

563
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: Wait no fair, no, no, no no you said no yeah

564
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: no you said you said he's an ending.

565
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: You can't say, can't do that, can't do that, can't

566
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: do that.

567
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: They're five, they're fives losing shng doon uh And I'm

568
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: pretty sure Bill Simmons on his podcast was like, did

569
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: you trade cheng Goon? What do we here?

570
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

571
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: Remember Sillo always going full second person where you like

572
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: can't tell who he's talking about. He's like, then you're

573
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: coming in and You're like you know, then you're gonna

574
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: tell me? Then you're that, and I mean you're I'm like,

575
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: what who am I? At this point, I'm so few

576
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: love those guys, love their show. It just we're poking fun.

577
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was like Jaalen Green, all of a sudden,

578
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: he got Bill Simon's got some smoke for saying something

579
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: bad about Jayleen Green in seasons past, and now he's

580
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: ready to blow it up. A trade Sengoon in favor

581
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: of Jayalen Green, who I think he compared to young

582
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Kobe bro young Cob.

583
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, we don't have to

584
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 6: go all the way, one way, all the way.

585
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 5: He's having a really nice run in March. Can we

586
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: just enjoy that? Do we have to? All Right, here's

587
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: his Hall of Fame case.

588
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: Shooting fifty six from the floor and fifty percent from deep.

589
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like.

590
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: All right, totally sustainable.

591
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, either the greatest shooter that we've ever seen of

592
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: all time or you know, he's he's on a bit

593
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: of a hot streak.

594
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but.

595
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Udoka led the Celtics to a fifteen

596
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: game improvement in his first year with Boston in twenty

597
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two, and he's already thirteen games better,

598
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: uh with with these Rockets with twelve to play in

599
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Houston in his first year at the Helm. Like I

600
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: don't know, it does make does make you kind of wonder, like, man,

601
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: there he was just there, just there for people to hire,

602
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: and you know, for there's a it's a bigger story

603
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: than that. But at the same time, you talk to

604
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: any team that is struggling right now, and I think

605
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of them would be like, yeah, that

606
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: would have we would have we wouldn't have minded that, yeah,

607
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: lak yeah, yeah, not that the Lakers are struggling, but I'm.

608
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Just well, no, come on, just be real weird we are,

609
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: we are struggling. You know, we were saying, you could

610
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: I can care less about my Lakers drugger ling. But yeah,

611
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: it's anyway, that's that's for another time, another time. But yeah,

612
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I I do. I think it would be really fun

613
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to see the Rockets sneak in there because it just it's.

614
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: Just a.

615
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: No and even but I'm saying my expectations are so

616
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: low as a Laker fan. I'm like, I'm notou to

617
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: be like they're going to stop us from winning the championship. No,

618
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, but because we already had our time to

619
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: secure a better seed, and we just every time that

620
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: opportunity present itself, we're like, well, I don't know what

621
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna do on just lay down and die. So yeah,

622
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: in that sense, I'm more I'm here for the narrative.

623
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm here for the I'm here for the eventual uh

624
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, bio pick that would come out based on and.

625
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: What does it do to the Warriors.

626
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 6: If it's the Warriors, so they're the ones swear intenth

627
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 6: and a game up or whatever, what does their summer

628
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 6: look like if they don't make the play in and

629
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 6: a healthy stuff season.

630
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: I mean, like we're mostly healthy.

631
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, he's not gonna play all eighty two,

632
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 6: but it's not like that one a couple of years

633
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: there where he plays like twenty games and they're bad.

634
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, close out Steph barely played, Like what

635
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: are you going to do? This is like a hey,

636
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: we should be competing up.

637
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 6: Wiggins has been kind of some stuff, and Draymond's been

638
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 6: in and out because he keeps getting in trouble. But like,

639
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 6: this should be a season where we're still pretty good.

640
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 6: If you don't even make the play in. I mean,

641
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: I know the West is good and know everything, but

642
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 6: that's I would imagine that that gets you a pretty

643
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 6: active summer if you do not make the play in

644
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 6: with a prime Steph Curry on the roster, right, that's

645
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: actually I'm not even going to qualify that's prime.

646
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: He's still he's still awesome.

647
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he really is. It doesn't feel like I

648
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: don't know what I expect to see them do, though

649
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

650
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 5: Oh, I have no idea. Someone should call Kevin Durant.

651
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 5: That seemed to work for them.

652
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: Last time I did, they were pretty good. Run it

653
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: back Calves, Like, I can't remember a single loss damaging

654
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: a team's reputation as much as the Calves losing to

655
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: the Heat on Sun Day. I mean they it's not

656
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: a single They're three and seven or the last ten

657
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: and they just don't look that good without Donovan Mitchell

658
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: missed the last four games due to a nasal fracture.

659
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

660
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, Miami just smoked them in a way that

661
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: people seem to find pretty convincing. Yeah, despite the fact

662
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: that the Calves are a third in the East.

663
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you compare that to the other teams, Yeah,

664
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: the other teams in the top six, they're six and

665
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: four or better during that same stretch, You're like, yeah,

666
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: that's Uh, I'm not a petition.

667
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 6: You can't hang the hat on the injury thing, because

668
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 6: the Knicks are there too, and they, I mean they

669
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 6: had their own three and seven run. I think they

670
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 6: really just had no one playing right and they weren't

671
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 6: getting as beat as bad as these Calves were Yeah.

672
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I was just saying before we record,

673
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember last season, we're like, man, the Calves,

674
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: look out, Man, look out. Then the All Star break

675
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: hit and then you're like, what what happened to that?

676
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

677
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: What happened in a second?

678
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit of a bit of a pattern.

679
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm noticing. But I mean, are any are you what

680
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: any expectations for the Calves or we just were thinking

681
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: the Calves will calve.

682
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: It's so weird.

683
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 6: I mean I feel like they the first like beat

684
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: up spell, they do that fourteen and one run and

685
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 6: it's like okay, like hell yeah, they came together, like

686
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 6: the season is, you know, they passed it together. And

687
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 6: now it's like they're still hurt, probably equally as poorly hard.

688
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously Donovan Mitchell is a huge loss to

689
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: any team. Yeah, but the fact that they just look

690
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 6: kind of just like listless out there, that's what concerns me.

691
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: More like you lose some games, you lose some games.

692
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 6: They got smoked. I was like, what forty points? Like

693
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 6: they didn't have I mean, they still had Garland, they

694
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 6: think they had Mobile, but Allen was out or maybe

695
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 6: vice versa. Again, I get this big injuries, you don't

696
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 6: want to overlook that, but I do think it is

697
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 6: just concerning like the level they've played at. And I

698
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 6: also think, you know, maybe Mitchell's more important than we realized,

699
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 6: which sounds stupid because like, obviously Donovan Mitchell should be

700
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 6: seen as important. But I feel like there was this

701
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 6: kind of movement of like, oh, it's him and Garland

702
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: together are the backboard, and they have Mobile and they

703
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 6: have out like it's a it's really it's you know,

704
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 6: it's our core.

705
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: For Yeah, maybe Mitchell's just absolutely awesome.

706
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: These other guys are good, but without him, I think

707
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 6: they've really struggled to just have enough punch, which you

708
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 6: think they should be, like Okay, I mean you look

709
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: at like the heat, you know, they're not exactly team firepower.

710
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 6: They put up one twenty. So I think it says

711
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: a lot about Mitchell too.

712
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like he is the engine right, like

713
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: they when this whole thing of them being a compelling

714
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: team in the East started when Mobiley and Garland went

715
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: down and he just took over. So it does feel

716
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: like Cleveland needs Mitchell and they need him back soon.

717
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: So we'll see his fractured nasal. But that's not an

718
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: injury i'd heard of before. So you learned something.

719
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 6: They've heard of ERP injection too. There's a lot of

720
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 6: stuff with Donovia Mitchell right now.

721
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Orlando another one of the teams that has broken

722
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: their expectations already. This is that there the forty two

723
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: wins already matched their twenty eighteen nineteen total, which is

724
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: the last time they finished above five hundred. If they

725
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: reached the fifty win plateau, it would be the first

726
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: time since Dwight's tenure when they went fifty two and

727
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: thirty and twenty eleven. Their coach Jamal Mosley's doing an

728
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: incredible job, and they just have like a good solid corps.

729
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they were lucky to be drafting first overall

730
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: when they got PLO, but they took the right guy,

731
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: you know, and they got Franz Wagner, you know, not

732
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: number one overall, and that wasn't by any means a

733
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: like sure shot. And so I don't know, they're just

734
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: they're in a good place as an organization. It'll be

735
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: interesting to see what they do in the offseason, and frankly,

736
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: what they do like, I'm hoping the Knicks catch the

737
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Calves so that we can see Orlando against Cleveland in

738
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: the first round. I feel like that would be a

739
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: fun series, and then Nicks Pacers would be a real

740
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: kind of clash of styles, you know.

741
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, I'll put my throwback jersey on to

742
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: watch that matchup. Yeah, in a while, those rebbit MyD

743
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: mits for that kind of matchup. I was. I was

744
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: also reading like a lot of that, like at the

745
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: end or the beginning of the season, like people were asking,

746
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: like Anthony, Both Anthony Edwards and Jokic were like, They're like,

747
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: who do you think is going to really surprise people

748
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: how they play? And they were both like the Orlando magic.

749
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: Like defense is yeah, man, yeah, that that leaves an

750
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: impression on you.

751
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: I feel like more than offense, and they have so

752
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: many I didn't think Jalen SAgs was gonna be an

753
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: awesome defender. I guess I didn't know too much about

754
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: him and just coming out of the draft, but to

755
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: see him kind of like struggle with the scoring but

756
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 6: then just really hone in on that end has been

757
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 6: really cool. Isaac playing again and still being like a

758
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 6: you know, world destroying wing on defense has been fun.

759
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: I mean, they have some clear like offensive spacing stuff

760
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 6: they're going to deal with in the playoffs whoever they play,

761
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 6: but they are going to make life hard for the

762
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: other team. And it's just cool to see one of

763
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: these teams that, as you mentioned, I hadn't been about

764
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 6: five hundred and was that like five six years? I

765
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 6: don't I don't want to think about twenty eighteen nineteen.

766
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 6: It is that long ago because it makes you feel old.

767
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 6: So we'll said three years, it's been three years since then.

768
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 5: In that good. But it's fun to just see kind

769
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 5: of get through it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

770
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like you look at even Jonathan Isaac stats

771
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: like for among bench players that have played over fifteen

772
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: minutes per game, he's like first in like so many categories.

773
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: So it's they've they've yeah, they've they've got some. But again,

774
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: what do you think they're ceiling is this season?

775
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 6: Ty, I'd be pretty surprised if they won a first

776
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 6: round matchup.

777
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

778
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 6: I just think well, with the half court scoring and

779
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: just shooting issues in their lineup. We know teams in

780
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 6: the playoffs get physical.

781
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: They packed the paint.

782
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 6: I just am not sure they're going to be able

783
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 6: to overcome that four times to score enough points. I mean,

784
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: we know they'll be able to hold down the teams

785
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 6: they're playing, but like, if it's Cleveland and Mitchell is back,

786
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 6: you only hold down Donovan Mitchell so much like that

787
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: guy can get going get loose in the playoffs in

788
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 6: a way. I just don't know if anyone on their

789
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: team can will see, like maybe Franz and Paulo can

790
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 6: do it and they're ready, but we just know they'llee

791
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 6: extra attention.

792
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: I'm just not sure they have the offense.

793
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 6: But I mean, if they catch the right team, like

794
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 6: this Cavs team that like, if they're kind of reeling

795
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 6: going in. We just saw them get out physical by

796
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: a not great shooting team last postseason. So Baby Orlando

797
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: looks at that blueprint and goes, hey, we can do this.

798
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: This is how we play too. But I mean, I

799
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 6: think if they give someone a really good run in

800
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: the first round and then go into this summer with

801
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 6: whatever avenues they have to improve and more internal development

802
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 6: from their players, that's got to be a win, right.

803
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 6: I mean, nobody was picking them. I mean they could

804
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 6: be off home court. I mean if they don't win

805
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: the series. Having home court in the playoffs and getting

806
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 6: real playoff reps for these guys, I think this is

807
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 6: an awesome season regardless for Orlando.

808
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean they smashed expectations. If you

809
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: had to pick one team to know, we're coming off

810
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: of a playoff run by the Miami Heat that was unprecedented,

811
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: you know, eight seed coming through. What what would you

812
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: what team would you pick for to like make some noise.

813
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: And you can't pick the Sixers because that's too obvious. No,

814
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: you can. You can East or West, but you can't, yeh.

815
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: I know there's not many teams you can pick.

816
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Can't pick the Sixers, man, I know, I don't.

817
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: Believe in them. If they were I would say, I

818
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: don't believe.

819
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: In what.

820
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: Way you're talking about?

821
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Man?

822
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 6: Wow, I would say the Palace. Yeah, they're kind of

823
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 6: getting out at the right time. Zion's doing some really

824
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 6: awesome Zion stuff. The I seems to be more locked

825
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 6: in on defense, which has been nice to see. Again,

826
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 6: they're still like they have some shooting questions and stuff

827
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 6: to answer, but when they have some really strong two

828
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 6: way players as well, and I just think.

829
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 5: I'm really excited.

830
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: I hope we get it like Zion in the playoffs,

831
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 6: It's just gonna be so much fun. What does that

832
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: look like? How worn down the teams get? Like again,

833
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: I would pick Denver because I think Denver is just

834
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 6: like amazing. Yeah, well, like Zion versus Jokic just could

835
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: be such a fun like it's such a fun battle

836
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 6: of guys, like such such different kind of dominating bigs.

837
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 6: But they both dominate to a certain extent more so

838
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 6: of course, But I would just love to see, like,

839
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 6: how did Denver contain him? How does anyone contain him?

840
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: So I'm excited about the Pels. I will take the

841
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 6: Pells to make a weird Cinderella run. I think east

842
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 6: it'll be a little tough, just like the Bucks and

843
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 6: Celtics have a little I mean balls. Celtics of course

844
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 6: have distance, like the Bucks are a little better than

845
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 6: everyone else too. You could say the Nicks if they count,

846
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 6: if they get healthy enough, but I'm not totally sold

847
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 6: on that. I feel better about it being the Pels.

848
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the heat. You feel like they just too

849
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: many different they.

850
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 5: Go, No, they go every other year, they don't count.

851
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: It's all the time.

852
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: They could do it. I'd be pretty surprised this year.

853
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: I feel like they're so small it's just going to

854
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 6: be hard, Like they just keep acquiring point guards and

855
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: losing wings. But I'm not going to write them off

856
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 6: until until they're mathematically eliminated. I think every Celtics Bucks

857
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 6: or just general Eastern Conference fan is like, they could

858
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: beat my team. They could beat my team in the

859
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 6: series until there and even after it's like maybe they're

860
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: going to find an exploit in the rule book to

861
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 6: get back in this series.

862
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: I don't know, but they just never go away.

863
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: And obviously all of that is you know, your opinion

864
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: of who would be good if we're not allowed to

865
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: pick the Sixers. We did edit the part out where

866
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: you said the Sixers aren't any good, I.

867
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: Would say something else.

868
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: We actually make it sound like he was saying the

869
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Sixers are the team that everybody would be like, they

870
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: could beat my team. That would actually be great. Thank you,

871
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: Brand the editor, make that happen.

872
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: Shop it together.

873
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're actually a Sixers propaganda podcast where.

874
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: We just even if it's real choppy cuts like when

875
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Speaker 1: that interview with Homer. Yeah, moving so sweet, sweet path.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, enough collar for this.

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Speaker 1: It's a normal size.

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Speaker 5: It's a normal size collar.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break and we'll be right

880
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 3: back with the rabid fire round of course, right after this, and.

881
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Speaker 1: We're back tie WEINDI ish?

882
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Speaker 4: Wow?

883
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Speaker 1: Well well, I mean, look, it's great to have you

884
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: on the show, and to help commemorate this moment, we

885
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: have to put you through our hottest of hot seats.

886
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: It's a rapid fire round of questions. Okay, we're just

887
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question you don't think, Just give

888
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: us your just instinctual reaction. Just chest pass it right back,

889
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: just shoot it right back at us. Don't expand on

890
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: your answers. We don't care. We're trying to keep this tight.

891
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: We're trying to get as many questions in as possible.

892
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Speaker 5: I love it. That's so I never think so I'm ready.

893
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Good, good good. We like that on this show. We

894
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: like not thinking on this show. And guess what's we're taught? Yeah,

895
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: I see, I haven't thought yet single thing this whole time.

896
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what're talking about? Who am I?

897
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Speaker 1: Who are you? Okay?

898
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Speaker 2: Just watched an episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where

899
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: like the put the enemy had like a mind reading thing,

900
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: so they had to fight without thinking, and like that

901
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: blew their minds. They were like and then Donatello did

902
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: all the moves without thinking. And that's a sort of

903
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: digression that you need to just stop me from making,

904
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: because this is supposed to be just rapid fire bang.

905
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: No digressions about my children.

906
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Rap it though for you, and no digressions about my

907
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Speaker 1: children none whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: Are we one? But I'll let it go. Yeah, let's

909
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Speaker 5: do it.

910
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I hope you're ready. Time here we go right.

911
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Speaker 5: Start the clock.

912
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: Our hands are tied. Here we can we just have

913
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Speaker 2: to all.

914
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Speaker 1: Right, hopefully you can win dish here segment with some

915
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: great answers, you know, we try. Hey, keep it moving.

916
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: Those are those were B grade jokes man, those are grades.

917
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Speaker 1: They were selling those at the joke outlet.

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Speaker 6: Mall.

919
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, now it's time to hit you with the real stuff.

920
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I said, Brian started the clock. Okay, the time the

921
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: clock is going. Do you want to go first?

922
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Speaker 2: Check?

923
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Speaker 1: Or should I go first?

924
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Speaker 2: Uh? Why don't you go first?

925
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go first. Tie wind dish more likely to happen,

926
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Speaker 1: and why, but keep the why very brief? Wolves Finals

927
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Speaker 1: run or Bucks Finals.

928
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Speaker 5: Run, Bucks Final Run. The honest is better.

929
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Speaker 1: M hmm, Okay, can you give us a little bit

930
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: more than that, just so I can kind of have something.

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Speaker 5: To towns injury.

932
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Speaker 6: It's difficult for them, and I just think getting through

933
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Speaker 6: Denver is going to be.

934
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Speaker 1: Okay. That's that was too much. That was way too much, dude.

935
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Speaker 5: Wow, wait, I kept it too brief.

936
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Speaker 2: Miles. Some people an inch and you know.

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Speaker 1: I know, I give you an inch and they take

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Speaker 1: a mile.

939
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Speaker 2: Walk the miling your shoes or something.

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Speaker 1: Ty.

941
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Speaker 2: You could go back in time to personally witness any

942
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Speaker 2: of the following take your pick, uh Wil's one hundred

943
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Speaker 2: game four, twenty twenty one finals, Kobe's eighty one Game seven,

944
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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Finals, the Lebron Block, and also you get

945
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Speaker 2: to bring Twitter with you.

946
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: As much as I love the Milwaukee Bucks, I'm gonna

948
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Speaker 6: say the Lebron block Game seven, twenty sixteen. I think

949
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Speaker 6: it's probably the greatest basketball game we've all gotten a

950
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Speaker 6: witness in our lifetimes.

951
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that that was a Blacks. I do

952
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: wish I was more on Twitter back then.

953
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Speaker 1: I hit a three at the Sports Arena in fifth grade.

954
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Speaker 2: Wow.

955
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was second on my list.

956
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Speaker 1: I had an NBA three.

957
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 5: I wish I was there too as a fifth grader.

958
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Speaker 1: And almost anyway, we got to keep this movie.

959
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Say during Clipper night, Yeah yeah, look, I don't talk

960
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: about Wait, so the main event was your game and

961
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Speaker 2: the Clippers playing in between was like the special event.

962
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: You gotta let the weepers play in between.

963
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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly it was. It was it was a charity match.

964
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Speaker 1: It's a charity match where we liked to. I remember

965
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Speaker 1: Keith Klass was begging me for some guidance. I said, look, kid,

966
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Speaker 1: why don't you come on by? Why didn't you bring Dominique?

967
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: Was there previous year? It was like, were good times,

968
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Speaker 1: good times back then. But don't get me on a

969
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: digression about my past or my kids. It's about the

970
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Speaker 1: rapid pie Riders. Next one, Taiwin Dish rank these current

971
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Speaker 1: duos in terms of your postseason expectation. Yanna's Dame, Jokich, Murray, Luca, Kyrie,

972
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Speaker 1: Katie and Book.

973
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Speaker 5: I think you had him in order. I think you

974
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Speaker 5: had Order.

975
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Speaker 2: Over Murray over Yokramurray.

976
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Speaker 1: Wow.

977
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Speaker 6: But I think the last two and that's I think

978
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Speaker 6: they're very close. I think the first two are very

979
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Speaker 6: close to the last two are very close. I think

980
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Speaker 6: Dame has a little more upside than than Murray, although

981
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Speaker 6: in the playoffs Murray has been absolutely ridiculous and maybe

982
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 6: he just picks that up again. But if he does

983
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Speaker 6: that again, then it's probably that duo. But he has

984
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Speaker 6: been just kind of unbelievably hot to the extent I

985
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Speaker 6: don't know if I think you can keep doing it.

986
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Speaker 6: I will just barely say Luca and Kyrie over katiean book.

987
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: So many great players, but I trust Luca in the

988
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 6: playoffs more than I think anyone else. And out of

989
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 6: the out of the bottom two groups.

990
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, Ty.

991
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: Somebody's coming to the city of Milwaukee for one weekend

992
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: and it is the Boss, Bruce Springsteen. Uh No, it's

993
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: it's just somebody and they they're looking for a good job.

994
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: They reach out and they say, give me the three

995
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: spots that need to hit up. Could be restaurant, could

996
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: be bars, let's get bars, could be a track shifts.

997
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: What are you telling them to do?

998
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: I always tell people to go to the art museum.

999
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 6: This is a very Milwaukee answer. Classic art Museum, the

1000
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 6: College Trava everyone should check it out. I don't live

1001
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Speaker 6: in Milwaukee, so I don't have the great restaurant spots

1002
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 6: in Milwaukee.

1003
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Speaker 5: I will just put that out there.

1004
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Speaker 6: I live in Oshkosh, which is if you thought Milwaukee

1005
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 6: was small and cold, you have no idea, is what

1006
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 6: I'll say to the people country.

1007
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 5: But I would say, yeah, that's actually where it came from.

1008
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

1009
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, So go to Oshkosh, Bigosh factory in Oshkosh, go

1010
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: to the art museum.

1011
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1012
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 6: And then I'm trying to think of like my top

1013
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 6: restaurant in Milwaukee.

1014
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Speaker 1: Actually, give me the top restaurant in Oshkosh.

1015
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: Yes, that's easier for me. Yeah, Fletch's, Fletcher's tap Out.

1016
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 5: No, that's all right. Ruby.

1017
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: What do they got there, dude?

1018
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 5: They have a chicken Euro that's sensational. They do.

1019
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: They do very good burgers. They have a boota bowl

1020
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 6: that's pretty good. I don't go to that too often.

1021
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 6: I'm more a burger checking Europe guy, but the chicken

1022
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 6: euro is probably my number one man.

1023
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: Did they have a chicken euro before? Jannis?

1024
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 6: I didn't go before, You're honest, didn't go outside before

1025
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 6: you're honest.

1026
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 5: Weight when I have to change.

1027
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Joy was invented, and they didn't.

1028
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: I used to drink only sprite, and I started drinking

1029
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: water after. You're honest, change my life, Change my life?

1030
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: All right? Who's the most underappreciated of the all time greats,

1031
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: someone that deserves to be mentioned but is often led

1032
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: out of the all time debates?

1033
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 6: That's a great question. I don't let me know if

1034
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 6: this answer counts. Does Kareem count?

1035
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy stinks, maybe he heard heard.

1036
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 6: Him stinks, But for what he did, how much he won,

1037
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 6: his individual and team dominance, Like I think he's probably

1038
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: never going to be in these goat combos anymore because now,

1039
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 6: of course it's all m J. Lebron and Jay Lebron,

1040
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 6: and then whoever's next Wendy or whoever is going to

1041
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: be the next will be him versus Lebron.

1042
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, nas Reid probably.

1043
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 6: But the the dominance of Kareem, I mean the fact

1044
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 6: that like they didn't they didn't let him play on

1045
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 6: the varsity team at U C. L A, But he

1046
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 6: beat that team in a scrimmage and that team won

1047
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 6: the championship. Like he just won so much at every

1048
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: level and was so unstoppable. They and the dunk because

1049
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 6: of him in college, some real ridiculous stuff. So I

1050
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 6: would say, Kareem, uh and if that city, that doesn't count.

1051
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 5: I don't even know Kareem.

1052
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: That's I think that's really Yeah. It's just he was

1053
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: so dominant for such a period that people just kind

1054
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: of got sleepy, got sleepy about it. They just come on.

1055
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: I remember I watch Latter Day Kareem and I was like,

1056
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: I used to call him the glasses guy. Yeah, and

1057
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: then and I was always taking my down. I'm like,

1058
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: why is he playing like he looks old and respect.

1059
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: All right?

1060
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: To learn? You learn, you learn well, ty Windish, thank

1061
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. You made it through.

1062
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Those are all the correct answers, I will tell you that. Yeah.

1063
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: And and I just checked at the Chicken you at

1064
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: Rubiel it looks pretty good.

1065
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 5: That's outstanding.

1066
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Deliverery you said it's like so cold. That really got

1067
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: my attention. I'm like, I as someone who chases the cold,

1068
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: as a native Angelina, I'm like, I want to know

1069
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: what it feels like when your bones go numb.

1070
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 6: Oh, it's solid. It's real quiet out when it's cold.

1071
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Yeah, gone away, yeah yeah yeah.

1072
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, thanks for joining us. Where can the

1073
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: people find you, follow you, listen to you all that

1074
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: kind of good stuff.

1075
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you guys so much for having me first

1076
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 6: at tie windish c I W I N D I

1077
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Speaker 6: S c H on Twitter And if that was said

1078
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: too fast for you to listen, you can find our

1079
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 6: podcast about the Bucks. We also have other Wisconsin sports

1080
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 6: pods and my socials and the rest of our team

1081
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 6: at GSPN dot.

1082
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Speaker 2: Info a GESPN here here ye a.

1083
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: Step podcast Network. I'm not trying and say I'll just

1084
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 6: say I just keep it simple. I don't want to

1085
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 6: embarrass myself.

1086
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: What do you say? You say? You do? You say

1087
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: euro Step?

1088
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're you know, to make.

1089
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Speaker 6: It this I think make it the same as the

1090
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Speaker 6: basketball move makes the most sense. Yeah, but again, I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to get in a fight with a whole

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Speaker 6: region of people because they refuse to say yeah Gyro.

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Speaker 5: So go ahead again, you listen to subscribe. You're good

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Speaker 5: with me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: I prefer gyro step. You can make sure you follow

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Speaker 1: us on the hashtag hashtag bad boosts b W S

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Speaker 1: t I E S that where you can get a

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Speaker 1: show links updates, H and then you can follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien, and we did.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Let's make us stronger.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, boom exactly. In the words of Pink, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having us in your ears. We will

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Speaker 1: be back next week because this is an unstoppable train,

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Speaker 1: all right. Calculator music

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