WEBVTT - My A.I. Expert - Guy Van den Broeck 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.240 Just raise your hand. Once you realize that you're that 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:12.080 you know that you're talking to a complete idiot. Pasha 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:21.720 Tosh Show us. Welcome to Toss Show. If you're proud 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.240 to be Latino, stand the fuck up. Go ahead and 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.640 hit me with some of that three oh five music. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:39.519 All right, it's a good start, you know, Eddie. I 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:45.800 have heard through the grapevine that some people don't like 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.599 the production value of our theme song. Now, I may 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.400 shock a lot of you listeners out there, but we 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.400 did not spend a lot of money on the music 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.920 for Toss Show. But I am open to new suggestions, 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:07.000 but not my uh traditional musicians. No, no, no, this podcast 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.840 is the future of entertainment. So what better than AI 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:18.560 to create our potential new theme song? Right okay, I 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.160 I hear we've got a few candidates to audition. Let 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.919 me go ahead and hear this first one here. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:33.960 You get ready stands? 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.880 That sounds like a train wreck. I don't like that 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.319 one bit. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:41.600 It's probably the prompt. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.080 No, no, there's too many words to listen to. All Right, 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:46.840 we got another. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:53.559 One, yeah, the Barca. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:02:00.480 Lasting we want to know. Now, that's got some energy. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.840 What I worry about is people listening to this thing 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.920 first thing in the morning, and they're not ready for 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:12.520 that nickelback rage. That might be too much. We might 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.280 be getting people spilling their coffee. Then we've got a 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.680 lawsuit on our hand. We have any more? 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.080 Here's play's play one more? 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:25.239 All right? Let me hear another one? Welcome today. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:29.960 Here just every day. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.920 God, that's awful. Here's the thing. AI is not ready. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:42.480 I say, we stick with what we've got. That's right. Oh, man, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.640 I worry about Ai every morning. This is the first 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:51.480 thing I do. Is AI sleeping with my wife? Is 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:57.720 AI diddling my kids? Is what I worry about. It's 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:02.200 just NonStop. Oh but what's AI doing? I was taking 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.120 my dog for a walk that I can get my 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:09.120 head around, that I would enjoy. Now I'm told, thanks 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:14.120 to AI, that this podcast is now broadcast in over 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.320 seven thousand languages. And I'm gonna be honest with you, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.560 I didn't know there were seven thousand languages. Let's see 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:28.800 what Toss show sounds like in Spanish, Eddie, it's the programs. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.600 Now that podcast is no longer under the category of comedy. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.840 That one's under sexy. This is why you can't ever 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.320 be convicted of a crime in this country because you 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.480 just be like, I didn't do that. That was ai, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.000 Like I never said those words. I don't speak fluent, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.160 beautiful Spanish. Do you want to hear me speak Chinese? Wherever? 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:57.880 I try to ease this, Sir Lien Eddie transorg GM Shirsanger, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:02.120 Oh man, what I wouldn't get to be able to 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:08.120 speak whatever beautiful language that was? Speaking of Chinese? I 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.800 just finished watching a showgun which I know is Japanese 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.800 or is They like to say the Japan's but it's 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.279 all under the Asian umbrella, which they like to hold. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.919 A lot of them like to use umbrellas. This is 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.479 what I wanted. I'm not there's no spoilers. I'm not 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.880 giving any spoilers. Well I will, but it's just just 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.520 episode one that I'm going to talk about. And I 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.320 understand that this is set in that I think the 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.520 sixteen hundreds or something like that, medieval period, and it's 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.799 a different culture, okay, But I like to just play 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:48.479 it out as if it happened in my life today, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.000 Like how would that go over? I just liked the 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.440 idea of me coming home from work. So Eddie, you 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.560 can play the role of my wife for this and 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.160 you just say, how was your day, honey? 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:00.920 How is your day? 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.280 Honey? 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.039 Oh funny you should ask you know how I like 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:11.680 to uh smart off sometimes at work. Well, I I 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.719 spoke up when I wasn't supposed to. Anyway, We're gonna 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.200 have to kill our children and I have to kill myself. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:31.880 Oh so yeah, all right? Well, uh, speaking of AI, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:40.159 today's guest a genius, a certified genius, a professor at 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:45.400 the University of California, Los Angeles. This guy knows everything 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.719 about AI. He's gonna calm my nerves hopefully, or he's 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.599 going to create new worries for me at night. Also, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.279 I have to I have to mention that this was 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.719 the interview that was recorded that day that Dylan had 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:05.080 a colossal fuck cup a brain shart heard around the world. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.279 So there were some audio issues, But the irony is 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.680 that Dylan figured out how to use AI to fix 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:25.840 his blundering buffoonery. Enjoy Pasha, my guest today, is the 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.920 smartest person we've had on the show, and not just 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.760 because he's a foreigner with four words in his name 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.960 who also happens to have facial hair and wears glasses. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.680 Please welcome our distinguished guest, AI expert in the UCLA professor. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.440 He doctor, he professor, he mister he. 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:43.960 What do you want? 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.800 It's all good, just he is fine. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:46.720 Thank you all right? 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:46.800 He? 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.800 Where are you from? I'm from Belgium, Belgium, Well you've 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:50.239 been here. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.320 I moved here in twenty fifteen, citizen, not yet soon 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:55.120 maybe next year. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:56.960 Are you're actually going to do it? 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.719 I think I'm eligible in like a month. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:04.480 So congratulations, thank you welcome. Do you like America? 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.600 Yeah? I mean it gave me a lot of opportunities, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:07.560 so yeah, I love it here. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:08.599 How often do you go back? 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.160 Maybe once or twice a year. It's a long track, yeah, yeah, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.480 especially with a toddler. It's not so nice to travel 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.560 for like thirteen hours. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:16.560 How old you're toddler? 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:17.400 Three years old? 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.280 And now are you as an academic person? Do you still? 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.880 I mean, can you relate to a toddler? Do ye 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.560 act silly? Are you a silly dad? Oh? 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:26.960 Yeah? 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.720 Are you strict? No? 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.120 I'm quite silly. I would say. I don't really like 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.520 to be the serious professor too much. It's not my 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.120 style now. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.000 I mean I feel like the reason I had children 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:42.240 was because I wanted an excuse not to care so 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.000 much about everything else. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.640 Yeah, and you cannot imagine before it happens, right, It's 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.000 kind of yeah, like you cannot prepare for this, and 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.880 that's only everything changes. And you know, it's also kind 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.160 of interesting that you kind of you know, you see 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.520 them grow and like learn things, and you're like, oh, yeah, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.800 this this is different from how AI learns. You know, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.320 you kind of get some perspective on like what is 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.880 just from seeing a toddler learn how to walk and 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.400 talk and you know all that stuff. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.240 Right, I just like, like, whatever, the world's going to 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.000 shit and I'm gonna still have to, you know, build 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.680 this horrible lego thing that he just brought. Do you 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.000 believe in ghosts? No? 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.040 Okay, I feel like you asked a friendshow the same question. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.000 Is that a usual question? 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.720 That's the first question I ask everyone? Do you believe 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.120 in ghosts? 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:25.520 Not at all? 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.880 Move on? Do you believe in digital ghost or those 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.760 death bots? 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:30.680 What are those? 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.920 Like some people that have lost someone and then they 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.520 create their like this digital ghost. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.080 And it's I'm sure it's comforting. It's like watching videos 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.520 and pictures from people. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.560 Do you think that's a good thing for the psyche 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:43.480 he has a way to move on. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.640 Or No, I think it's a bit creepy. I wouldn't 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.080 really enjoy it. I would rather watch a videos from 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:48.760 ten years ago. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.280 Yeah, yeah, that's always sad too, just to keep replaying 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:57.880 that video like John Wick. Uh, why did you leave Belgium, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.360 a smart country to come a good old delmbo mare? 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.720 Yeah, you know, honestly, no one wanted to give me 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.320 a job as a professor in Belgium, and I had 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.920 to come here as a as an academic refugee. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.520 What is your actual job. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.640 I'm a professor of computer science at UCLA and I 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:16.440 teach AI. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.280 You teach aim. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.240 Are you worried that your job will be taken m M? 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.040 I mean the teaching part. I mean the more, the 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.240 more people will help teach EI, the less kind of 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:28.880 boring stuff I have to do, and the more interesting 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.600 things I can teach that are maybe less off the shelf. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.880 So I would own mind more. AI help. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.760 How did you get into computers in the first place? 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.839 I mean, I was a big nerd and still am, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.360 I guess, and I like to program, I like to 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.400 play computer games, and you know, just like any other 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.320 nerd that' have I started with computers? 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:46.640 Do you still play the games? 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.479 Yes you did? Yes, Yes, I wish you hadn't asked. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.599 But yeah, like like you put in real time. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.760 I have this rule where I, you know, maybe once 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.680 a year I'll spend the weekend like binge playing for 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.480 like and without sleep, just to kind of reset myself. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.000 And like, you know, I'm not worried too much about 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.840 being a civilized person with a real job. And you know, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.079 I think everyone needs to do such something every once 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:11.520 in a while. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.520 Though, is there a particular game that you care about? 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.280 Lust? When I played was? I played Civilization six? Again, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.120 I don't know the game strategy games. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:21.200 I'm not a game person. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.800 And my brother, my brother is a game person and 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.280 who is a computer programmer and then created a company 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.200 for gaming and also for the government and then sold it. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:37.320 And you know he's that kid very much. Yeah, a 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.439 world that you two would like to meet him, but no, he. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:41.800 He I was. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.960 I told him that I was interviewing and and he 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.880 was like okay, So then he added did a couple things. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.240 He's like, bring it, bring this up. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.120 It seems like self driving cars got to eighty percent 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.840 good really quickly, but progress is stalled with getting into 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.840 one hundred percent. Will we see that with AI for 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:02.000 programming too, like a helpful too but still need someone 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.800 to steer it, or will it quickly get to the 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.800 point that we don't need software engineers. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.280 Yeah, so I think it's it's kind of a little 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:09.680 bit of both. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:09.840 Right. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.000 So on the one hand, yeah, like even today, your 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.800 brother is probably already using generative AI to help him program, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.960 and so that's definitely happening. Whether your brother will be 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.240 completely replaced, I highly doubt it. I think there's you know. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.239 He didn't have a job now he owns. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.520 He's just doing it for fun. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.280 He doesn't like six months cells it does something else. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.480 I mean those weird if it's kind of this boilerplate 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.640 stuff where it's very similar to what many people have 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.960 done before and it's just like minor tweaks two things. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.880 And yes, AI is probably going to be able to 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.120 do that because AI is really good at like finding 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.160 similar things and kind of slightly modifying them. But if 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.240 it's actually building like new software that does new things, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.560 that's going to be much harder for AI to achieve. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.280 You teach at UCLA. You think it's a bad idea 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.520 that UCLA left the fact well for the Big ten? 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:56.680 And are you aware of sports? 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.000 I heard this is a big deal in the way 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.120 in the real world. Yes, I heard about it. I 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.480 don't know. I am sure you say it only makes 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.800 good decisions like hiring me and moving to the back 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:09.920 twelve or whatever it is. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.120 Do you ever have Alonzo Ball in one of your classes? 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:12.960 Who is that? 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.040 He was a basketball player? I'm sorry, popular a few 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:16.520 years ago. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.120 We get student athletes in class all the time, so 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:20.800 but I don't really I don't know that. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.400 Are you told it? Hey? 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:23.959 No, definitely not. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.560 Subtle debate for us here? Who is the father of 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.680 artificial intelligence? Alan Turning or John McCarthy. 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.640 So Alan Turing was he was kind of the father 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.240 of computer science, and he already said like, let's build 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.960 a computer that can play chess. So in that sense, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.480 during is kind of the first. But then McCarty was 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.120 the one that called it AI and really kind of 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.920 started the field of AI. So I think they put 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:48.600 good credits. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.959 Okay, well, I want you to know that there was 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:50.760 no debate here. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.640 I'll pose my question to make you feel like you 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.960 were among academics. But nothing could be first. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.959 I mean, your question was great except you said turning 0:12:58.960 --> 0:12:59.680 instead of touring. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:00.760 Yeah, that was the giveaway. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:01.640 God damn it. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.800 Yeah, you should read these cards before. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.120 You think I didn't read it. Well, then you're extremely dumb. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.280 I stew over these things. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.120 By the way, Yeah, when's the last time we took 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.880 a hearing test? 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:14.600 Do you think I have a problem? No? 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:22.160 Never, Okay, No, it's like my kid just took a 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.280 hear It doesn't like you just have to raise your 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.920 hand and I just want you to u during this 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:31.080 in just raise your hand once you realize that you're 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.720 that you know that you're talking to a complete idiot. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.400 No, No, I don't believe in that. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:40.439 You don't believe. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:41.400 You don't believe though. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.880 I mean, I'm also an idiot, you know. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.080 No, not true. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.360 What are some of the real dangers of AI because 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.480 you're not a doom and gloom guy with it? 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.680 No, I don't like all the scary stuff a guy 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.120 is going to take over in the world and like 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.920 terminator will walk into this room and all of that stuff. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.560 I think, you know, I appreciate that some people seriously 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.800 studied is like as a long term problem of like 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.000 how do we make AI behave the way we wanted 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.080 to behave? But I think what I'm much more concerned 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.920 about is like, today AI is doing pretty bad things already, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.600 and you know, if you care too much about this 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 kind of terminator sci fi AI taking over the world, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.520 and I think you're also kind of ignoring the real 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:17.320 dangers today. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.920 And the real dangers are just believing everything that's put 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:21.520 out part. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.800 Of you, yeah, thinking that somehow, because AI is intelligent, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.440 it knows how to make decisions that are good for 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.480 all of us. Well, these systems are full of biases, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.400 and you know, AI is constantly also being used to 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.400 you know, track people, to even build kind of automated weapons. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.120 AI is being used in many ways today that are 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.040 quite dangerous already, and that's what I'm more concerned about. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.440 Well, yeah, that does sound worrisome. Now now I'm back 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.400 on the doom and gloom. I thought you maybe feel 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:49.960 better about that. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.440 No, but I mean, there's drones flying around and you 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.880 can tell them find Daniel Tosh and shoot at Daniel Tosch. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.720 This is very doable and so sorry, sorry. We can 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:00.840 cut if. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.800 I see a which if I see a drone in 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.760 my property. My instinct is to get a sling shot out, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.240 But now I think that might not be good enough. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.320 Yeah, I should should move closer to an airport where 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:11.400 you cannot have drones. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:16.040 Just closer to an airport, yea, Oh, I'd rather be 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.080 shot at. How advanced is the cutting edge of this 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.760 technology compared to what the public is aware of? Oh? 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.400 I think the public is aware of the cutting edge. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.640 Anyone who has something new desperately wants to put out 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.680 a press release, show the world make money. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.960 Yeah, all right, so there's nothing behind the scenes that's 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.480 way scarier than what I mean. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.200 Some of these model stick a while to train, Like 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.360 I'm sure Open the Eye is training the next GPT 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.080 and it's probably impressive and they know it, but they're 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:42.640 not ready to release it yet. But as soon as 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.640 they can, I'm sure they will. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.680 Isn't the greatest sart of computer learning, not artificial intelligence, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.480 but rather human stupidity. Most people believe what they're told 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.160 because nobody reads or bothers to you. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.600 Yeah, it's all it's all the magical thinking, right. People 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.960 think this is magic, that it knows everything, that it 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.360 can make perfect decisions for everyone. Then I think this 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.720 happened before, like in the nineties, when AI started to 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.240 beat world champion at chess, you could be like, okay, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.880 we're done, right, Like this is chess for in the West, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.480 for thousands of years has been the game where you 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.640 prove you're intelligent, and if AI can do that, then 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.480 we're done. But it turned out that after that there 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.880 wasn't really all that much more that AI could do, 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.720 even though this was really impressive, and so this happens 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.920 over and over again. Right at some point, AI beats 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.160 the world champion at a game of Go, which is 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.160 much harder than chess. It's kind of the hardest board 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:30.960 game you can play. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.680 Go is the hardest board game. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.200 I don't know, I'm not an expert, but yeah, it's 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.080 it's like this, it's I think you can think of 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.440 it as like an East Asian kind of variant. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.920 Is enjoyables and an enjoy fun game to play. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.920 I tried. It's way too complicated for me to enjoy. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.680 So yeah, but some people really love it, and you 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.440 know once you once you beat that, you're like, okay, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.400 there's no more harder game where humans are better than Ai. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.080 And then you're like, oh, maybe poker, like we're good 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.800 at bluffing and reading people. AI starts to beat the 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.320 world champions at poker. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.560 Too many monkeys? Do you ever play that? 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:02.920 Now? 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:03.400 What's that? 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.720 What's a card game? 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:05.440 Okay? 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.919 With your daughter, you'll love it? Uh huh? Can she 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:08.880 count to six yet? 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.560 Yes, then you're in. That'sky neat. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.560 Yeah. Yeah, we'll try. I'll look it up. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.360 How come AI can't come up with something where they 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.320 can click on photos of bicycles or say I am 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:20.000 not a robot. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.920 I don't think these things work anymore? Really, like AI 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.199 is able to crack all of these they keep changing 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.240 them all the time, just to make sure that, you know, 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.400 someone who's building the eye for the previous thing has 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.240 to spend some time building in the ie for the 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.120 next thing. That's why they keep changing all the time. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:34.359 But I wouldn't really trust them. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.720 To be so that's not going to save me. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:36.399 Yeah. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.760 Can you walk me through a plausible doomsday scenario where 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.480 the machines take over and I'm locked out of my rivian? 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.360 I mean plausible? No, I mean I'm sure your car 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.840 can break down. I think your riving or your test 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.840 level today already misbehave and not open its doors, has 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.919 nothing to do with AI, right, These things are just 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:55.679 not robust. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.280 That's Do you have a smart home? 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.840 Not really? I have like a Google Assistant too, because 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.720 my toddler keeps requesting music, so I don't really want 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.520 to like kick on my phone. I just like, please 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.800 play this music. So that's my only use case for AI. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.560 Really, are you into all of that tech stuff or not? 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:11.280 Necessarily? 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.280 I find most of it just makes my life harder. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.640 I mean there were ads for like Siri and these 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.080 types of assistance ten years ago that claims, oh, they 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.880 will plan your trips, they will do this, they will 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.280 do that. In the end, they never understand what I say, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.600 maybe because I have an accent, and it's just like 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.720 there's a few things I know I can ask everything 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.240 else I'm just not even trying anymore. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.520 I always think of like these guys that that create 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:38.280 these billionaires, these tech guys that create these safe bunkers 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.000 or whatever, and there's so much tech in these homes. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.840 I'm like, unless the day they're finished, the doomsday happens 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.919 and they move in then, but if it sits for 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.080 ten years. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.240 Yeah, they things going to work. They need some tech 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.640 support in their bunker. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.800 Because I can't get my lights to turn on half 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.760 the time with my crestraw on app. So I'm just 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.160 I'm just loving that Mark Zuckerberg thinks his entire Hawaiian island. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:02.480 Is going to work. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.000