1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: and the Black Effect, And just like that, we're back 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: on the air. Welcome back to another episode of Carefully Reckless. 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: I got my twin back. Say hey, prints, what's what's 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: up now? Listen? We played a lot and we we 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: we had a lot of random ship that we talked about. 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, we just ain't know what the 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: fun to talk about last week. And um, yeah, you 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: know y'all been with me up until this point, so 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: sometimes y'all can take a little fumble episode ain't nothing, 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: but we are very serious this week. I want to 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: touch on something that I feel like I can't touch 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: you on a loan. You know what I'm saying. I 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: can't touch on it by myself, you know what I mean, 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: because I am not in the community. And then I 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: have been canceled by the community. And listen, I know 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: what y'all thinking. She keep on talking about gays. That's 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: why one like I nailed, but like, no, I'm gonna 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: really get into something that I really have a problem with, 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Not against y'all. I stand 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: with y'all on this, so um and I want to 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: bring my brother in because he is gay. It just 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: seems crazy to say like that because he is gay. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Let me just say it better because he's gay. Okay, 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: he's gay, So yeah, gay gay, Like we are serious, serious, Okay. 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: So this was a part of a conversation that we 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: were having. Prince and I it's harder for gay males 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: than it is for gay women, and I do sincerely 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: agree with that. I always, I mean, I've always felt 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: that way anyway, that it's it's easier for a woman 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: to be accepted, you know, when she's gay versus a man. 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, that comes from that hits from different aspects. 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: It could be your family can be you know, friends, 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: it can be you know, church, family can be your 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: platform if you have one, you know, if you don't, 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: it can be your neighborhood. Whoever, how would you translate it, 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: how would what would you add to a prince? I mean, 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: I stand with you. You You know how you said it. 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Women can in fact choose when where the men can't. 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's like once you cross that line of 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: that boundary, you're just gay. That's it. There is no 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: no I was just doing this ship for fun. I 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: was just doing this because I was mad at my bitch, Like, 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: what the nigga suck your dick because you was mad 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: at your Like this is something you've been you thought about, 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: This has been something that's in your mind, Like I 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: just need one more little thing that's gonna send me 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: over the ass. It's gonna make me go see what 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: this nigga throat about? Like hold up what you know 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: what that? Yeah, that's as crazy as a motherfucker because 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: and I get it because a woman can do that 52 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: like a woman back. I'm gonna let this eat my pussy. Oh, 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: it's okay. And men was gonna like to see that. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Ain't no woman excited to see two men? Yeah? Or 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: or there are some, but I know it's it's very rare. 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: The ratio is different. More men that enjoy watching two 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: women than they would be women watching two men men. 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, because listen, I can't even put myself 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: in it, like you know, I know I don't want 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: to see two men. Wait, this is going left with 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: serious guys. Know at a at a young age and 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: and I've touched on this um during the Catholic Reckless 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: episode before I messed with a female. You know, what 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean when I was like twenty one, you know, 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: just right after I had ash and I just had 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: enough of his dad and I had enough of niggers, 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I fuck it. I' 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: musta see what's something. I was always attracted to this girl. 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: She looked just like young low Wayne. So I was 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: like ship, but I've only ever been attracted to that 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: one woman in my whole life. And I tried it 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: and we had sex and ship, and then after that, 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't know what I was doing. 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of weird. I didn't know what to do. 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: I felt like we was going to be like thrusting 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: our like navels together. It was just like it was 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: the sciss SCISSI know what I'm saying. I was like, alright, 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: bamn pow power, you know what I mean. And I 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: just realized that I just couldn't do it. Then I 80 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: was scared of the deal though. I was so scared 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: of it because it was like I hate PEPs mans. 82 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: I hate anything going up there, and that's why I 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: don't like for Nikola finger me like, let me play 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: with your pussy, what's your tongue? Like I I don't 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: want you to be up there with your two fingers. 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Just imagine your two fingers just going up there. She's like, 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: did you find it? What? Then you're looking for joyable? 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It feels like I'm at 89 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the doctors, you know. So I never I didn't. The 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: only thing that I will allow inside of me, you know, 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: is a penis. That's just what it is. But I 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: was still so fucking tracted to her, and you know, 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: to this day, like I said, it's never been anybody else. 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: So that made me question, like damn, maybe I wasn't gay. 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't Maybe that was just a phase, or 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe I was just so curious where I thought that, 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, because you never really know. Yeah's And then 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: that goes into like the different acronyms, like based on 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: what you described, it would be like an a sexual 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: y'all ain't having sex, but you attracted to their personality, 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, So I think that fault that will fall 102 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: under that that acronym of a sexual whatever you want 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: to say, whether it's a man or a woman. Yeah, okay, 104 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: it's like you're not having you're not having sex, you 105 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: just attracted tonalities however that go or whatever one of 106 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: the acronyms. You know that people have to make them 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with who they are. And then back to 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: what we were saying to complete the thought. Look, after 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I had sex for her, I went to sleep, woke up, 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: and then I was straight. I really, you know what 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was just like, no, that's that's sex, 112 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: and her want to sleep, woke up, Nope, back to that, yeah, 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: and then I never wanted it after that, So in 114 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: my mind and to me, I'm not gay, you know 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? And and when do I say I 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: was gay? Or did I try it? You know what 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, If you try it once, does that make 118 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: you gay forever? As a male? Yes, see, that's what 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. For a woman, it's like, you can't explain 120 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: a story like that as I'm man to a woman. 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: And they'd be like, you know, I was growing up, man, 122 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: and my big mother got him a fucking nerves and man, 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: my homeboy down the street looked like fucking Drake, you know, 124 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, young Drake, you know, 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: said Drake, like you know, and and you know what 126 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, We just we just sucked each other dick. 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: But I went to sleep and woke up and was 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: like this, ain't it eating pussy? Like you know, yeah, nah, 129 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that's not like Nigga's gonna look at him and straight 130 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: up be like, that's it. Where's the woman gonna be like, 131 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: all right, bitch, let's go. Let's party, like bitch, what not, 132 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Let's party and everything okay, and then walk up to 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: you and tell nigger story. He gonna be like, oh, 134 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't hear what you're saying, but I mean you 135 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't try it again. What if it wasn't nigger in 136 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: the mix and it was too yell like he's gonna 137 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: try to finesse some ship because nigga's like to see 138 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: two bitches together, the average nigga. There is some niggas 139 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: because I have a homeboy who doesn't like that woman 140 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: and woman action and right defensive when his wife like, well, 141 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: dance with a girl in the club, you don't pay 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: and there are I mean that that's not every man 143 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: does not think that sexy. Yeah he don't. You know, 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: he don't play that ship. He don't like that ship, 145 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: and he stands on that. Yes, I know that ship 146 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: is not just to act like he stands and he 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: don't like that ship. So but the average man is 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: going to enjoy ship like that. Yeah, yeah, that's just 149 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: what it is, you know. But nah as a man, no, Yeah, 150 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Even outside of you know, 151 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: like being accepted by people, how else do you feel 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: like it affects like your everyday living, like like when 153 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: you go out into the world, like even in an industry, 154 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: or if you like or if you try to get 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: a job. Do you feel like it affects gay mails 156 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: their their sexuality when trying to do anything in life, 157 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean as versus a woman. Absolutely absolutely, 158 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: And and see this is this is ah, it's it's 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: a double standard when it comes to rich gay mail 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and regular gay mail. There's a double standard. Rich Gamel 161 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, he can say whatever you want, 162 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: he can act as is he want, He can do 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: whatever he want and doesn't have to give a funk 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: about people because he's in a position to be okay, 165 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, um, there's there's there's going to be a 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: fan base that surrounds him because he's being thinking outside 167 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: of the box. He's doing things above and beyond. He's 168 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: representing for the community per sect, whereas though someone from 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: your average neighborhood has to be mindful you know, they 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: have to only act based upon what's appropriate to the 171 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: limit of their neighborhood or with their neighborhood. Wow, because 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: they grew up there. You know, the ship that little 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Nosx is doing, there's no way that average male can 174 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: do that in his neighborhood. You just can't. You know, 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: you can't. You ain't walking around as Snaked or making 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: no even if you are like a local gay rapper, 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: you ain't making no. You ain't making no no no 178 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: as Snaked music video and the numbers going off the 179 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: off the chain, you know what I mean, Like, that's 180 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: not that's not gonna happen. Like so it's only you 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: feel like yeah, if it's only if you rich with 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: a platform or if you just have a platform. What 183 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because like a lot of people look up 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: to Lord's accent, saucy Santana and you know, her Bobby lights, 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: and you know they look up to them because that's 186 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: who A lot of people wish that they can be 187 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: just like that. But you know how many you know 188 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: how many you know how many Kay Niggers in the 189 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: hood want to do the ship that Santana do. Like 190 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: they want to go to the to the street clubs 191 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and tork. But they're better to fuck note, you know, 192 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: like get their bodies done. They want to get bbls. 193 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: They better to fun not like you. You just can't. 194 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, they want to wear long hair with full beards. 195 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: They're better to funck not like if you think he 196 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: better to funk not. I keep telling them that ain't 197 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: cute k and told him any time. But I love 198 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: me some Santanta, but go in. Yeah, you know you can't. 199 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't do that in the hood. They 200 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: can do that. They have platforms, are larger, they have 201 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: people behind them that's bigger than them, that's supporting and 202 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: pushing them. You know, it's like it's different ship. It's different. 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: It's it's a double standard, Like you can't do that 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: ship in your hood. You know, It's like you just can't. 205 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Like little nas X, I think some of the ship 206 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: that he's doing is because of his platform. If Old 207 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Town Road didn't blow up the way that it blew up, 208 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that he never would have came out. 209 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he would have never really not even 210 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: get into where he is. I don't think that he 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: would have never came out and said, hey, y'all, I 212 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: am identifying as gay or however he worried because I 213 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: don't want to. You know, that's not verbat him. But 214 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: in a sense he basically said hey, y'all, and it 215 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: was he's extremely comfortable. Yeah, And it was like and 216 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: it was like, damn, this song is rocking, like you 217 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: got the whole everybody, everybody, everybody's singing Old Town Role, 218 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: like I mean everybody, everybody, everybody. And then it was like, 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: you know, the numbers, what it was. He made some money, 220 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: he did what he did, and I was like, boom, 221 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is what i'm, this 222 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: is what I represent. Do you think these then stopped 223 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: listening to Old Town Road because now this man is gay, absolutely, 224 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: you know. But then it's then there's some people that 225 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: be like, man, I listening to that because he is 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: get this in the third but it's more because he 227 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: has a platform and he has the money and because 228 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: you know, everybody wants you know, whatever whatever that whatever 229 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: the reason it is, it was acceptable because of where 230 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: he was. He couldn't have done that on a regular scale, 231 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: Like you can't just nah, that's that's that's not even 232 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: performance wise, Like it's like speaking on his BBC performance 233 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: where he kissed the guy tuned them down. It's niggers 234 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: that's been getting the neighborhood for years, and the neighborhood 235 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: knows and they dare not kissing nigga in the neighborhood, 236 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: like kissing nigga in public period, Like you just you're 237 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: just not doing that. You're just not doing that. But 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: he can do it, Like who won't check them? Think 239 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: about like honestly, who won't check them? Has it ever 240 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: affected you in a sense where you felt like you 241 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: couldn't do something where you got a harder time because 242 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: of because I know I've been there since you came out, 243 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I've seen and even 244 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: things that I don't see. I haven't seen much change 245 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: for you, but you never I didn't know that when 246 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I met you, you know what I mean, that you 247 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: were gay, Like I I just I just didn't. I'm like, oh, 248 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: that's a very fashion forward nigga. He find you know 249 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he can dance, He never across 250 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: my mind that you were gay until you told me. 251 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, oh ship, cool 252 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: o ship. I'm like, okay, what changed once you came out? 253 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: A lot? You know, a lot, a lot of things changed, 254 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of things because I'm an image person, 255 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I shielded in a mask, masked it away from you know, 256 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: the world. Like I lost a bunch of clients behind it. 257 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, he is a barber. Yeah, you know I 258 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: lost a bunch of clients. Man. You know I got 259 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of hate emails. You know, like you never 260 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: told me that you lost I know you did get 261 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: a bunch of hate messages and ship, but I never 262 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: knew you lost clients. I lost a lot of clients. Um. 263 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: But it wasn't nothing that you know, it didn't. It 264 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: just was like for me, it was more of like 265 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: a freedom of a mind thing like yeah, it's whatever 266 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: now you know, like it's gonna be, It's gonna be. 267 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: How what how much worse can get? You know, It's 268 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: like okay, now, who's no more speculation? I said it 269 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like I don't have 270 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: a bun like definitely was like the wrong sound effects 271 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that that's giving, Penis, that's giving. Dick. Come on, I 272 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: told you you're gay, and this is my brother and 273 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: we play like this day. But you know, I lost 274 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, um and still lose a lot, 275 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that a lot of things 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: that that I put together, even in my mainly in 277 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: my city, you know, a lot of things that I 278 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: may try to put together the orchestra. I think that 279 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: people don't actually funk with me because of the fact, 280 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: because you know, and it's just like damn like if 281 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I never said nothing, niggas wouldn't have known. But I 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: never felt like I had to tell anybody because if 283 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in it, don't matter. You're my homeboy. 284 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: You can be my home boy, I can be I 285 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: can be gay with straight homeboys. And listen, that's another 286 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: thing about you. I noticed, and knowing you for years, 287 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: you don't hang with gay people. Gay man. You know 288 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You don't and why And they're gonna 289 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: hate me for for saying this, but I mean it 290 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: is what it is. You know. I don't like the 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: stigma or the perception of groups that gay people hanging together, 292 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: you know. And and let me explain generally when you 293 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: hear gay, you know, faggy or whatever. You know what 294 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're generally associated with them thieves, they still 295 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: they do fraud, they do this, they do that. Like 296 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: it's never oh he has a business, or oh he 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: has he does real estate, or he's he's a doctor. 298 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Is always the negative about groups of gay people that 299 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: hang together, you know, And I don't know he's selling 300 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: ass or he's selling dick. He don't like na, no, no, 301 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: no no. So I don't want to be a part 302 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: of that. Like I'm a community supporter, but I'm not 303 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: a community member. The things that go on in the community, 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't partake in those things. Got a 305 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: real life, no real real ship going on. And I 306 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: don't have time for those general characteristics of that group 307 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: of people associated with me because I don't move like that, 308 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: you know. And there's nothing against how you get your money, 309 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: get your money, how to fun you get your money. 310 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't want you to be like, oh, he's stereotyping us, 311 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, what he think he up and he 312 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: gave nigga No no, no, no, no, I got calm 313 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and sense. That's just what it is. You know, like 314 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, get your money though, however you get it. 315 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: What works for you works for you. Hold up, hold up, 316 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: I know the ship getting good, but listen to just 317 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of a commercial. If you love me, 318 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: you'll listen. Now, do you know any successful gays? Absolutely, 319 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Lewis Baton, Oh ship. Yeah, all of these designers that 320 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: we wear when the niggas in the hood got problem 321 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: with gay niggas, but they're wearing around the ass but 322 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: they're not ready for conversations and luxury brand. Yeah, you 323 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: spend your last on to keep up. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, 324 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: you know you got you know, it's just and I'd 325 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: be like, damn, you don't like gay niggs, but you 326 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: win all those designer ship. These niggers were for sure 327 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: gay and and and was out about it like yes, 328 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm out here sucking dick. That's just what it is. 329 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: And you're gonna wear my ship. You're gonna pay top 330 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: dollar for it. But you won't even endorse a nigga. Hey, 331 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: but you won't even endorse a nigga in your neighborhood 332 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: who maybe don't even like you. But you just got 333 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: a problem because you're worried about what your other straight 334 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: homeboys gonna saying you don't gonna be friends with him 335 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: because he gay. Why do you feel like straight men 336 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: have such a problem or such such a negative guard 337 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: up when you know it comes to even being around 338 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: gays or being friends, not not not being around but 339 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: being friends, actually having gay homeboys. If you're straight, it's 340 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: like a rule you can't have a gay homeboy or 341 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: something like that being together. Why do you feel it's simple? Twin, Like, 342 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: it's real simple. The problem is that gay people have 343 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: their own narrative on the friendship between them and the 344 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: heterosexual and in a gay person's mind that if you know, 345 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: the average gay person, if a straight guy is treating 346 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: them like the homie or just you know, like like 347 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: being nice to him, or you know, looking past the 348 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: fact that you know what I mean, that they're gay 349 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: or whatever, they automatically assume that now the heterosexual male 350 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: is flirting with them, you know, and now it's like 351 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: they're doing the most you know what I mean. Like 352 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: one of the saying keep just doing is doing that 353 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: the whole time. The straight nigger is just comfortable with 354 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: enough with his sexuality to be able to be friends 355 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: with your communicate with you, but you suck it up 356 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: by making it seem like something is what in fact isn't. 357 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: And now you're trying to explain to the hood that 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: you ain't sucking this nigga, but he giving off the 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: signs like a bit that she really is sucking them. 360 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: And it's one thing that is hard for a straight 361 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: nigger to get off of his off of his name, 362 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: is that he's gay. Once a gay person say that's 363 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: like they act like all the ship that gay people 364 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: do or people in general. Dude, they act like straight 365 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: gay people tell the truth when it comes straight people. Yo, 366 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: you had like it's people that died that has died 367 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: behind that ship, like all that type of ship, right, 368 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: like people people get killed, like putting that type of 369 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: m or But a lot of the times this should 370 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: be true, and and it do be true, you know 371 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Not all the time. It's also a 372 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: variation that that's not you know, the people are honestly 373 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: everybody that I hang around straight up and down straight 374 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: and they don't have a problem with being around. But 375 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: you're not absolutely not. Man. It's like I move, I 376 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: move carefully and respectably upon the people that I'm around, 377 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's just like it's 378 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: not that I'm hiding who I am. It's just certain 379 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: things aren't permissible in certain atmospheres, Certain people can't go 380 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: certain places. I'm not going to invite my straight friends 381 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: to a gay event, which I really don't go to. 382 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not gonna write my straight friends 383 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: to a gay event. I'm not gonna write my gate 384 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: friends to a straight event. I don't have no gay event, 385 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: no friends. I don't have it. But I'm saying if 386 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: I did, I wouldn't do that because that's just like, 387 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta learn how to entertain people appropriately. 388 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: It's like you have friends, you know, just all subject 389 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: because you have friends that when you hang with them friends, 390 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: you don't hang with other friends because you know, they 391 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: just don't mix. You don't put oil and water together 392 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: and then get an attitude because it's not working the 393 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: way you wanted to work, you know, And that's just 394 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: how that's just how my mind set. But even the 395 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: heterosexual or homosexuality whatever, I don't believe in public affection. 396 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't matter, you know, when I you know, 397 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: I was dealing with females. You know, it's like, I 398 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: don't got to do all this outside. We we spend 399 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: time together behind closed doors. I just think that it's unacceptable, 400 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you know. I don't. I'm not I'm not going to 401 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: do the most, you know, that's just I'm just not 402 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: to nobody, absolutely not. What if you're doing something out 403 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: in public and it's a kid around watching You don't 404 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: even know this kid is watching you and his parents 405 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: have to explain to him the birds and the bees 406 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: or the bees and the bees and the birds and 407 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: the birds, or whatever the case may be. And they're 408 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: not even old enough to have this conversation yet, Like, 409 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you just gotta be and what's around you at all times. 410 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: And do you think that is why they are trying 411 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: to interject gay and everything in the world, okay, one 412 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: time for the people in the back. I think that 413 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: is the stupidest ship in the world. You are teaching 414 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: these kids, And I don't want to say that it's 415 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: okay to be gay because so many people have that's 416 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: like a politic that's like a politics. It's very political, 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, it is okay to beginning, Okay, 418 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to get into all that, but 419 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: you're I think you're forcing the kids to learn something 420 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't taught to us instead of just leaving them 421 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: opening to finding out you know later. What about this 422 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: with somebody in the barbershop, It was like, you know, 423 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: I felt She was like, I feel like the TV 424 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: and and this generation is forcing the kids to be, 425 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, interested in this because if they don't know 426 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: about it, what's gonna make them curious about it? And 427 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I get it, you know, I get it. But my 428 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: rebuttal to her was, you know, well, also, I feel 429 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: like it's not even just TV. I feel like it's 430 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: social media. She like, what you mean? I'm like, what 431 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: does your kid have fortnight? And all of that sudden 432 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: she like, yeah, I'm like, you're not listening to what 433 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: these people saying, or you're not listening. You don't know 434 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: it's no age burriger on, what the funk? You know? 435 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: It online and that's some dangerous ship. Yeah, just be 436 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: so much ship going on. And nowadays these kids have 437 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: because of social media and other things related to it, 438 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: these kids have an option to have a personality. We 439 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: had no fucking personality as kids. So you've got a personality. 440 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: Now you become curious. You know, we didn't do it 441 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: because our parents told us not to do that. Don't 442 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: funk with the same sex because that's wrong. Yeah, yeah, 443 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: that's it. Now. If it was done, it was sneakily done, 444 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It wasn't. It wasn't niggers 445 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't even want to know if you was working with, 446 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: better not to say that. And if your mother knew, 447 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: she would tell you better not say that ship. You 448 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: better not emburssed me around the family and let them 449 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: find out. So whatever you're gonna do, you do it 450 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: in private. And you see how everything is evolved from that, 451 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Like everything everything, everything we hands out out like Batman 452 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: and robbing. They just made robbing gay. They robbing is bisexual. 453 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Why the first of all, saving the world has has 454 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: to deal with why? And this is the thing growing 455 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: up as a kid, and you watch this ship. You're 456 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: not worried about who robbing fucking You're worried about who 457 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: he's saving. You're actually we don't even see robbing enough 458 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: for him to know he gay? How when then did 459 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: he tell us this? What is he like? Kissing? Kissing? 460 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: The kissing, the boy in the movie or something like 461 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: what he's by. They don't have him as gay, but 462 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: they have Miso. He was ready get up in something 463 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: he didn't He mad as a motherfucking about rob because 464 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's like, yeah, it's like I don't. 465 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: I just don't like that. Man. It's it's it's like 466 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: a brainwash mechanism, like, yeah, these things are an option. 467 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is the way, this is the way 468 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, you know, but these things are 469 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: an option. And then it's like, here are some more 470 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: options if you don't want to be straightforward and just 471 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: say you're gay. Now we have all these acronyms and 472 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: half of the fucking alphabet, like you know, weird ship, 473 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: like just to make somebody feel like that it's okay 474 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: for what they're doing. If you're gay, you're gay period, 475 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: you straight, you straight period? You know what I mean? 476 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: If you mix with you know, both sex, cross contamination, period, 477 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Like that's what the fun it is like, it's there's 478 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: no it's no ups and there's no downs. And I know, 479 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: you know the community is gonna hate me for that, 480 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: but you know what, Yeah, a matter of fact, I 481 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: think they're gonnaht me to you. So now I take 482 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: back that that second cross contamination. You can do what 483 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: you want. If you like pussy on Winds, you like 484 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: Dick on Thursday, do that. That's the nastiest ship in 485 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: the world though. I just think that it's nasty, like 486 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: you can't and yeah, yeah like that. That is crazy. 487 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: Man like you gotta choose feeling the cross contamination. I 488 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: love that. Got to choose, man like that ship. I 489 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: think I think it's not fair to heterosexual relationships. It's 490 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: not fair to homosexualations ships because if you're diving a 491 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: dab and I guarantee you your partners don't know. Yeah, yeah, 492 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's that's where I get the 493 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: cross contamination from. There's no where you're gonna stick your 494 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: dick in the man's ass and then later that night 495 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: or tomorrow you want to fun your wife with the 496 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: same dick and like nah nah shout up to the 497 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: movie cover said you got something in y'all you want 498 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: me blow it? Nig movie not good game? Hold up, sorry, 499 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: it means so much good good game, yo. That said 500 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: you got something to y'all you want me blow it? 501 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: First of all, sir, we are in the bathroom. If 502 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: you don't back the something, I think you got something 503 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: in your eye, but you want me blow it like 504 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: that was like the pickup line to have like gay 505 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: sex with the male while they were in the restaurants 506 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: with their wives. Man, And this is ship that goes 507 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: on day. I know multiple situations where niggas had lived 508 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: with what you have a lot of time, niggas live 509 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: with bitches and we'll sneak out the house to do 510 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: ship with a nigga. I think that is the most 511 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: disgusting and ship and you are in fact right that 512 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: that is that is disgusting, you know, especially because you're 513 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: not giving your made a choice. You know what I'm saying, 514 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: You're not even right. And I'm telling you there are 515 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: women that are okay with men being bisexual, just like 516 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: there are men okay with some women being bisexual. But 517 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: when you're sneaking around it like like the saying on 518 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: cover when she because Leon played the master game, he 519 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: was like the top. Yeah, he was the one, like 520 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: shit Leon so damn sexy and smoothing them up. And 521 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: in every movie, yes he was the ship and he 522 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: ain't give a fuck, you know, what I mean. But 523 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: he loved his wife, but he still loved men, you know, 524 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: And she was like so stressed out. It's not even 525 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: about him cheating. It's like, yo, if it was a woman, 526 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: I can compete with them. With a woman, I can't 527 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: compete with a man, like you don't want I can't compete, 528 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So she felt like yo, 529 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: like damn, like I'm I'm useless to this man because 530 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm not really what he wants, you know what I'm saying. 531 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: She probably feeling like I'm just an armed piece. Yeah, 532 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, so that really broke her hard. Like the 533 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: movie cover, I'm just a cover. Yeah there you go. 534 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: Hold up, I see what you did there? Cover? All right? 535 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: Well that that's that's exactly. And it's a lot and 536 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and and and that, and it's again, there's a lot 537 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: of people who live like that. You know. They have 538 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: four families, four wives, but their side piece is a nigga, 539 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, or a male. I don't want to just just 540 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: keep saying nigga. You say nigga, nip think you know, 541 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: just black, but is a male you know? And I 542 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: do think that it is discussing though, you know, but 543 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: it is harder for broke gay niggers than it is 544 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: for rich gay niggas. Man. I do understand, and I 545 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: believe it's it's hard for men period as opposed to women. 546 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean that is, you know, it's 547 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: a double it's a double standard. That is literally the 548 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: what what we wanted to address. Like I really wanted 549 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: to have you on here to talk about that ship because, 550 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: like I said, if I would have tried to do 551 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: this episode, the topic by myself, oh no, like this 552 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: bitch is off perfec. Like you don't have a you 553 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: don't have a right to say, you know what I'm saying. 554 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: But I I just I see that and I know 555 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: it like I have, you know, family members who I've 556 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: seen and a lot of my church family, you know, 557 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: they're not biologically related to me, but a lot of 558 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: my church family. You know, I have a lot of 559 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, gay cousins who grew up in church and 560 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: ship and they I watched people like this own them, 561 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, their dads and even don't come back to 562 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: this church like crazy. You know what I'm saying. I know, cope, 563 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: people that got kicked out of the house, you know 564 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: after you know, moving in secret for so long and 565 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: then at being axd like, you know, what is the truth? 566 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Tell me the truth? And then you tell the truth 567 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: and they still cut them to funk off. You know, 568 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: he's come to you know, it's rough. It's rough. The 569 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: community will say you're wrong for for hiding what you're 570 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: doing behind closed doors, but then when you come out 571 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: of these closed doors, now you're wrong for being it. Yeah, 572 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's like damn if I do, Damn if 573 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: I don't. And then if I try to act like 574 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: I like women, I'm still gonna be looked down on, 575 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's no 576 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: because now you're faking. Yeah, you're pretending, or you're wasting, 577 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: you're taking you know, you're taking pussy out here. That's 578 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: for the straightening. Like, it's just so much ship that 579 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: you get scrutinized about, and it's like, damn if you do, 580 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Damn if you don't, you just never right, you know, 581 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: you just you just never right. As far as the 582 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: like paying sexuals, a sexuals, intersex, like all those different 583 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: you know groups or you know, committees, how would you 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: colonies something mean, it's just they're all sub topics again 585 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: to make people feel okay with what they're doing, except 586 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: for intersex. Intersex isn't more so a sexuality. Yeah, it's 587 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: not sexuality. That's something that you're born with. This basically 588 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: a hormorphoditeus when you're born with both, Okay, okay, yeah 589 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: that so it's like you know, it's when you're born 590 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: with both. So those that's something that you can't control. Yeah, 591 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: you can't control that. So it's just like that's like 592 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: you gotta pick and choose which one or not even 593 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: then choose like whatever you feel you are. If you 594 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: don't have it surgically fixed, you know you gotta so 595 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: you can, you can, you can, damn. Some intersects are 596 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: born with with with breasts and then some aren't. So 597 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: I guess you can choose, like, you know, even if 598 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: you are breast, but you want to be you know, 599 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: a male, you know, you do what you gotta do. 600 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: But the other things are just topics and make people 601 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: feel better about this, make them feel okay what they're 602 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: doing to make a scene less gay as a male. 603 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Once you cross that line, that's it. You just no 604 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: matter what the funk, you don't you can't be like, Oh, 605 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gay today, but tomorrow I'm sure you like, yeah, Nah, 606 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's you get feel I feel you because 607 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people feel like, you know, like I'm 608 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: attracted to Like for instance, I think Willow Smith is 609 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: uh something where she is. She doesn't see man or female, 610 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: she just sees love. So it's like then you buy 611 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: like you like both, but she's like, no, I'm not 612 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: by sexually. What the funk are you? You know what 613 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I don't know. It's just like people, 614 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: it's just like it's it's just an acceptance thing of 615 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: my mind. It's a that's a mental thing, like I'm free, 616 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: like like you got damn hippie. That's cool. But it's 617 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, why is it so fine? It's like, yeah, word, 618 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: you gotta ask people in the community when you meet them, 619 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, how do you identify? What are your pronouns? Like? 620 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not walking up to nobody said hey, 621 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing? What are your pronouns? Like like 622 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: like a robot, I'm a person. It's just it's just 623 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: extra because at the end of the day, like you 624 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: just said, the first and foremost, you're human. Yeah, all 625 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: that other ship it's irrelevant, and it's like, it doesn't 626 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't. I don't think I personally don't feel as 627 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: though that it takes that much to identify yourself as 628 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: who you are. If you gave you gaye, you straight, 629 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: you straight. If you're a cross contaminated, you're a cross contaminating, 630 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna end on that. Not if you 631 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: are a cross contaminated, you are cross contaminated. That was 632 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Prince that said that, not me, So he's never been 633 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: canceled before. Canceling him to see how you feel about 634 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: that ship. It's like, no, no, no, But I did 635 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: want to touch on this ship because it's a lot 636 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: of it that people don't talk about and scared scared. Yeah, 637 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: they're scared to talk about it. So I really really 638 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: wanted to dig into it because it's what else but 639 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: conversation and dig into it. Damn. Oh man, see you 640 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: your gay game in there? You go digging into it? 641 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Oh my god, listen, I 642 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: love y'all while they are gay straight hermaphrodite or Prince 643 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: said hermorphonite. But whatever, you know, we're gonna come back 644 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: morphing time. And I love you, thanks for stopping by, 645 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: No problem, I'm out, bitch. I thought it was gonna 646 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: get on, because he definitely was like, bitch, if you 647 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: ever thanked me for stopping by, Remember last week he said, 648 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: I was not walking down the street. But look, we'll 649 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: see who the funk we got on here. Next week, 650 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I might bring my cheat nests farther pits, you know, yeah, 651 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: like niggas, hold on, what old on? Cheap faring this bitch? 652 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Holy, he'd be walking past 653 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: like I'm just stopping the fun by. Make sure you're 654 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: tuning in each and every Wednesday. That's hump Day and 655 00:32:41,120 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: in my palm boys. Carefully Reckless is the production of 656 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and The Black Effect. For more podcasts 657 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: from I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 658 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.