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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the holiday season never ends

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Speaker 1: if we keep getting cards.

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Speaker 2: At least Colleen Wolf does porn it.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling podcast studio, and

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Speaker 1: we're back here.

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Speaker 2: See you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic and Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it feels good.

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Speaker 1: You know last Tuesday was fun, but it wasn't you know?

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Speaker 1: I missed you guys. You were you were in snowy Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: you were watching your Eagles.

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Speaker 2: What was your weekends?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: It was fun?

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Speaker 5: I loved Philadelphia, by the way, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: What did you love specifically about Philly?

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Speaker 5: So I loved how you walk up to the link

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Speaker 5: and you walk through the tailgate.

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, everybody was really nice. I was wearing a

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Speaker 5: dark green jacket, but still everyone was really really nice.

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Speaker 5: It smelled amazing. The weather was terrible, but everybody was

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Speaker 5: in such a good mood. Everybody was drinking. Our uber

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Speaker 5: driver was like ripping off advanced statistics the way over,

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Speaker 5: like it just.

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Speaker 4: And she knew exactly the way to go.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to evet like it it is just so.

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Speaker 5: And then when you sit, when you're in there, and

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Speaker 5: it was a snow game, which was so magical, right,

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Speaker 5: and they and they they're all in their best like

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Speaker 5: cold weather gear, and they're throwing snowballs in the air,

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Speaker 5: not down at the field when they're own team scores, right,

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Speaker 5: and they're throwing all the snow in the air and

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Speaker 5: this like whipping winds and everybody is just like trooping

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Speaker 5: through it. And like, I loved that Matthew Stafford made

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Speaker 5: them silent for a minute, because the crowd lives and

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Speaker 5: dies with its team. Even those moments were just so fun.

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Speaker 5: And I got a Nishkabibble's cheese steak.

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Speaker 3: I love that for you.

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Speaker 5: Was incredible, traveled really well because I ordered it in

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Speaker 5: because I was on the show with Greg later that night,

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Speaker 5: and some cheese fries whizz nice.

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Speaker 3: Of course I have had this exact order before, yes.

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Speaker 4: And tried not to fall asleep for the next two hours.

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Speaker 3: That's difficult.

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Speaker 5: It just I loved it. I thought it was great.

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Speaker 5: It's such a great sports down. It's a great football town.

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Speaker 5: Unlike rookie outside linebacker Jared First, I love Eagles fans.

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Speaker 7: Listen off everybody Jordan knows exactly what she's talking about.

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Speaker 2: I love me some Philly on a playoff weekend. Two.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles Super Bowl run happened to coincide with the

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Speaker 1: year that they were sending me to games. So I

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Speaker 1: was there for the NFC Championship. I was there for

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Speaker 1: the Falcons Divisional round wind and yeah, there is something

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Speaker 1: that they were greasing all the poles.

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Speaker 2: So remember that was the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So it was great there.

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Speaker 5: So there there a car a truck had broken down

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Speaker 5: outside of the stadium. An Yvett, the Uber driver, she

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Speaker 5: was like, Oh, they are going to have to move

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Speaker 5: that at least three hours before kickoff, otherwise that thing's

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Speaker 5: going to be on fire.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, oh sounds good.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: So casually, yeah, yeah, it was just great.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, note to self in an

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Speaker 1: underrated city in general, Emica and I, who love love

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Speaker 1: a good sandwich, love a good meal. We once went

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Speaker 1: down on the Amtrak from New York to philadelph You

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Speaker 1: just to eat as many sandwiches as we could in

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Speaker 1: a weekend and catch a couple of baseball games. Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: really is an underrated city to just visit. So I recommend,

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Speaker 1: are you guys just doing I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 7: I feel like because I've missed some time in here,

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Speaker 7: like I feel like you guys are buttering me up

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Speaker 7: somehow that this is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like the significant other that doesn't give us

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Speaker 1: any attention, so we're just even nicer to you to

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Speaker 1: get more real of which.

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Speaker 2: What how is? Tim?

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Speaker 1: I did not know where you were going with that,

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Speaker 1: but yes, Tim Wolf, we love a good Colleen brother.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, How are you feeling though?

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Speaker 1: Since we're not going to be previewing the show that's

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Speaker 1: going to be tomorrow, we have Patrick Claibon in the studio,

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Speaker 1: we have some special guests for that one. How are

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Speaker 1: you just feeling about the Eagles journey and where they

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Speaker 1: are going into this game?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't love that they're playing the Commanders

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Speaker 7: because the Commanders are just like so oddly frisky right

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Speaker 7: now and playing with the house money type of deal,

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Speaker 7: and it just feels I don't know, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, would you rather be going to Detroit though?

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Speaker 1: As an Eagles fan? Would you rather think?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: Glad you're not on the team, but.

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Speaker 7: It just feels like the worst case scenario would be

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Speaker 7: for the Eagles to lose to the Commander's in Philadelphia

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Speaker 7: at home in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 7: For a chance to go to the super Bowl and

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Speaker 7: it's Jade and Daniels, a rookie going to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I can't have that happen in my life.

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Speaker 1: That is true. You sort of give up being the underdog.

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Speaker 1: Not that they would have been by points spread in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but it's the number one seed. It would have just

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Speaker 1: been a coin flip type of game, and now you're

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Speaker 1: like a heavy favorite.

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Speaker 2: Chris Long talked about it.

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Speaker 1: He's killing it at the green Light Light podcast, where

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing atmosphere. It's a huge advantage, but it's

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Speaker 1: like any great home field in the playoffs. If you

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Speaker 1: fall down a little bit and they get a little

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Speaker 1: up to that. I think they can. We have other

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. Okay, we're gonna go through some news,

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Speaker 1: some big news.

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Speaker 4: Colleen's dog.

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Speaker 1: That was something we're gonna hit towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. We also are introducing a new quick segment

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Speaker 1: that's going to be called I Choose Violence. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you see a tweet and it's like

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Speaker 1: You wake up and you're choosing violence with your takes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, can I tell you what I wrote in my

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Speaker 5: notes about this segment. I said, I don't have anything violent.

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Speaker 5: I think I'm just really tired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the take is in violent. It's just you're

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Speaker 2: just saying something that maybe people don't like. Maybe not.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see how much we really incite violence.

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Speaker 1: But first let's do some news and yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: a new head coach. Ben Johnson is the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: head coach. It came out on Monday, pretty soon after

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Speaker 1: the Lions are out of the playoffs. The Lions lose

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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator to the Bears. Some reports out there

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Speaker 1: that the Raiders were in on him. There's some buzz

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Speaker 1: The buzz is that it's around thirteen million dollars a

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's separate quote unquote buzz that maybe they really did

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Speaker 1: and that the Raiders had a chance.

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Speaker 2: That's not confirmed. I'm just like thrown around the scuttle.

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Speaker 1: But Colleen, what do you think about Ben Johnson staying

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Speaker 7: I do love that he's staying in the division. Like

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Speaker 7: that just feels. I know it's not on purpose to

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Speaker 7: I like that he's going to see the Lions now

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Speaker 7: this coaching staff, which we're going to talk about a

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Speaker 2: There is talk about it, no order to it however

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, it's just I'm happy that we finally

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Speaker 7: like start checking off the list. Here the Jets are

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Speaker 7: interviewing like seventy five thousand people. I just like I

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy that that one at least is done.

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Speaker 5: I think the Bears handled this a lot like they

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Speaker 5: handled their quarterback search. It was very clear that Caleb

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Speaker 5: Williams was their guy very early on, so too with this,

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Speaker 5: it was very clear and at least probably some agent

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Speaker 5: also they made it very clear that he was the

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Speaker 5: but they were going after Ben Johnson, and similar to

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Speaker 5: Daniels in for a thirty visit, going to Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: courting Ben Johnson less publicly because you can't really do

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Speaker 5: that with the coach who's currently playing and in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: as you have your search, but they were he was there.

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Speaker 5: He was considered to be one of the top guys,

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Speaker 5: one of two perhaps in this coaching cycle, and they

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Speaker 5: wanted to go get their guy. To your point, Colleen,

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Speaker 5: I do love that that's in the division. You were

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Speaker 5: gonna have to pay him. Also, based on what happened

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Speaker 4: He made that very clear.

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Speaker 5: But also to be in the division, you were gonna

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Speaker 5: certainly reportedly did that.

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Speaker 7: I am absolutely shocked at what Jordan and I were

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson without a hat on. I didn't even know

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Speaker 3: he had hair, and he has a swoon.

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Speaker 4: Got a swoop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's actually listen and take a look at

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Speaker 1: that video. It's Ben Johns and arriving at the Bears facility.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. My family and I were beyond excited.

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Speaker 1: This is exactly where we wanted to be, This is

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Speaker 1: exactly where we want to bet you.

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Speaker 2: This is a this is gonna be a challenge. I

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Speaker 2: don't aware that I.

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Speaker 6: Know what this division is about, and this is exactly

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Speaker 6: where we want to be.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's giving Dan Campbell a little bit there, and

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I like it Dan Campbell Kevin O'Connell like a mashup

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Speaker 4: Don't you get that vibe?

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Speaker 1: And we haven't seen him a lot in public. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has press conferences, but in those press conferences he

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Speaker 1: does give off a little bit of his reputation vibe,

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Speaker 1: which is he was from a math background and he's

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Speaker 2: So like he's still fourth to me, right, bring.

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Speaker 5: People bring up the example of it can be done

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Jordan's okay, I might choose.

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Speaker 2: Violence, but yeah, please do. I mean I was.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's doing great today because we're here back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they might. Let's go to the Jets.

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Speaker 4: It's like I.

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Speaker 1: Like holding back even there, like you might be back

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Speaker 3: You can't leave, not yet.

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Speaker 2: You never know what could happen.

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Speaker 5: I I much like the Bears, I have yet to

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Speaker 7: They make these moves every year, and it's you can

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Speaker 5: And I do not doubt one bit that Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 5: I believe that one percent that he has all the tools.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think this should be terrible. Lance

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting if you're a Saints fan,

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Speaker 2: But doesn't seem like that's everything.

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Speaker 4: He's not allowed to leave the bill, right. You can't

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Speaker 2: That's not a great sign.

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Speaker 1: Like two guys that were there in your glory years

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Speaker 4: Which I love.

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Speaker 5: I love that, so I would really love that as

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Speaker 5: A similar model as what we see Andy Reid do

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Speaker 4: I love that when it works, it really really works.

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson likes to be the mathematician kind of hold

446
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Speaker 5: up with the quarterback and some of the offensive skill

447
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,239
Speaker 5: players in the lineman in his office, designing things and

448
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 5: figuring out different levers to pull in different cool things

449
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 5: to do. Well, if you have hires like that, if

450
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 5: you have people who have proven capabilities of running one

451
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 5: side of the building or one side of the football team,

452
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 5: then that allows him to be a little bit more

453
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 5: hands off in that regard.

454
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Speaker 4: It's a collaborative effort less so.

455
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 5: Either someone who has to be in every single meeting room,

456
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 5: which stretches a lot of young head coaches really really thin.

457
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 5: They don't quite understand when they take the job just

458
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Speaker 5: how much is manded of them time wise.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is worth pointing out.

460
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen was a really good defensive coordinator for a

461
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: long time with the Saints, and that sort of fell

462
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Speaker 1: apart this year. Their defense kind of finally didn't look good.

463
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: But before that he had been running pretty great defenses,

464
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: So maybe he can have his like spags, you know, life.

465
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Speaker 2: Just as a coordinator.

466
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Speaker 1: I also want to say about the Bears thing like

467
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Speaker 1: me having doubt about their organization. This is the hardest

468
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Speaker 1: thing to predict in the NFL, Like what hires it

469
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Speaker 1: work or not?

470
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Speaker 4: Johnson, this was.

471
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Speaker 2: The right move.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, it doesn't mean it wasn't the right move

473
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: finding an innovative head coach to pair with Caleb Williams, Like,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what he does.

475
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Speaker 3: I just I'm really excited to see what the Saints do.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have a second interviews. It's interesting about

477
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Speaker 1: Darren Rizzy. By the way, both Alvin Kamara and Cameron

478
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: Jordan put public support on Twitter on Tuesday behind Darren Rizzy.

479
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: Call that the old Max Crosby.

480
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see who is lovely.

481
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: By the way, on game day morning this week.

482
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, the size difference between you two standing

483
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 5: next to each other incredible.

484
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 7: At one point we took a picture and I was like, oh,

485
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Speaker 7: I can't even go on my tiptoes because I'm already

486
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 7: on my tiptoes and heels Like I can't.

487
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Speaker 3: There's nowhere else to go from here.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Saints by the way.

489
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Speaker 3: I guess.

490
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Speaker 1: While we're on a coaching interviews, supposedly they're doing some

491
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Speaker 1: second interviews. Mike Kafka and Anthony Weaver are both in

492
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Speaker 1: the mix for second interviews. There Liam Cohen getting it

493
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Speaker 1: the first second interview in Jacksonville, which a lot of

494
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: people think means he's the favorite that they won't want

495
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Speaker 1: to let him leave the building. So that's something to

496
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: keep an eye. And then there's the Lions. Dan Campbell

497
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Speaker 1: spoke this week about life maybe after these coordinators and

498
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Speaker 1: how he sees his team moving forward.

499
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Speaker 6: Listen, all we can do is move forward. Man. You

500
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Speaker 6: brush yourself off of our gone through the loss of

501
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 6: a family member, feeling to anger yesterday to now, I'm

502
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 6: back on my feet, ready to roll, and I'm acknowledged.

503
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 6: I can look in the mirror and say, you know

504
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 6: what you failed, man, what are you gonna do about it?

505
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Speaker 6: So that's where we're at. Move forward, man, questions.

506
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Speaker 2: Damn, that's where we are.

507
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Speaker 4: Jeez.

508
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Speaker 3: He moved through all that, but quite quickly.

509
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Speaker 1: I kind of like that though he went through it

510
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: kind of like a fan does. It's anger, it's acceptance and.

511
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: Now stages of grief.

512
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Speaker 1: He's ready to just I just crush everything in his path.

513
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Speaker 4: I picture, so they're obviously practiced.

514
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Speaker 5: It's sitting in his press conferences, but I picture being

515
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Speaker 5: a reporter on the other side of it.

516
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Speaker 4: You're ready for.

517
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Speaker 5: This big monologue, open kind of a thing, and he

518
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: goes all right, questions and I'd be, oh, okay, god,

519
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 5: you know, get my recorder ready, like my off season

520
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 5: have already started kind of a thing. But I also,

521
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 5: as a very highly caffeinated person myself, I could kind

522
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 5: of see some of that quintuple espresso coming through. But

523
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Speaker 5: I you know, burnout and crashing happened with these deep

524
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: those seasons happened so easily and catches these guys when they.

525
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Speaker 4: Least expect it.

526
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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell, I think is going to be one of

527
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Speaker 5: those who outruns it a little bit.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that.

529
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Speaker 2: I hope. So I hope.

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Speaker 1: I want them to stay in the mix at the

531
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Speaker 1: very top of the game, and it's tough in that

532
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: division for everyone. I think they will. The defensive injuries

533
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: are not to be ignored. It was there like three

534
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Speaker 1: of their best four players essentially on defense, and I

535
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Speaker 1: think they have enough on offense to and they.

536
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Speaker 7: Made it that far with all of those injuries, that's

537
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Speaker 7: still saying something about the talent on that roster.

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Speaker 5: Back on the Saints for a minute. I wouldn't be

539
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Speaker 5: surprised if they looked back at Joe Brady. Yes, he

540
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: was in their building kind of as a quality control

541
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Speaker 5: offensive assistant in turn type of role under Sean Payton.

542
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Speaker 5: And he has connections that are still in that building.

543
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Speaker 5: If they decide they do want to go young, maybe

544
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Speaker 5: not quite ready yet, but somebody who may be ready

545
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Speaker 5: over the next couple of years, but get in earlier

546
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Speaker 5: type of higher and then start to rebuild with that offense.

547
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 5: Looks like and you know you've got Spencer Ratler, you

548
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 5: know mold a little bit.

549
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Speaker 1: Could be him, could be Mike McCarthy. I think McCarthy

550
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: was possibly the backup option by according to the reports,

551
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Speaker 1: he was probably the backup option to Ben Johnson in Chicago.

552
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Speaker 1: He was hopeful of getting that job. He might be

553
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Speaker 1: in a similar spot in New Orleans where he either

554
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Speaker 1: gets that job or it's a young guy. And speaking

555
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Speaker 1: of young guys, we have some breaking news as were

556
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings and Coach of the Year candidate Kevin O'Connell

557
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: have agreed to terms on a multi year extension, which

558
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Speaker 1: is hilarious to me because Pro Football Talk and another

559
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: like outlets, we're picking up the buzz on the is

560
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor going to get traded again? Like on Tuesday morning,

561
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Speaker 1: like just out of nowhere, this started picking up, and

562
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Speaker 1: then later that day here's the extensions. Like that's that's

563
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Speaker 1: how the sausage gets made. It's a pressure being applied,

564
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Speaker 1: and it's good to see. I would he's very interested

565
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: to see Florio, who seems pretty tied in with that organization,

566
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: say that there was He wrote and he was careful

567
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: in what he wrote, but he said there was a

568
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Speaker 1: legitimate tension. I'm using the word legitimate. He said there

569
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Speaker 1: were tension. There was tension between O'Connell and the organization

570
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Speaker 1: about the status of his contract late in the season,

571
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Speaker 1: but that all goes away when you sign a big

572
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Speaker 1: fat deal.

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Speaker 2: So good for them.

574
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Speaker 3: I think you way to smooth things over.

575
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Speaker 5: If I'm just thinking about what the optics of it,

576
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: looked like there were a lot of other coaches or

577
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 5: some other coaches from that hiring class that got extended

578
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 5: before he did, without the record, So if I'm looking

579
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Speaker 5: from that perspective and looking at the optics of it,

580
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, excuse me, what the heck is my organization?

581
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 5: What is my ownership group doing right now? Where is this?

582
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 5: I've got all these wins stacked.

583
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: Up right, so the hold up here?

584
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson just got thirteen million, I'm making way

585
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: less than him.

586
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm a deal.

587
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Speaker 5: Let's I'm half of the bend of the Kevin O'Connell,

588
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell hybrid man now coaching the Bears, you like.

589
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: And when they hired Kevin O'Connell, like, no, at least

590
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: most people on the outside had had no idea if

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: he would be good or not. I thought Lafleur was

592
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: a weird hire because like his one year in Tennessee

593
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: was pretty disappointed.

594
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: You need to recover from Sean, that's all.

595
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe that was it.

596
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: So good good, pray love your good for them, And

597
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if QUESI their GM gets

598
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: a similar extension that just matches up with Kevin O'Connell.

599
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: No word on that. Sometimes that doesn't get announced.

600
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: Another Ian rapaport is reporting that they are currently working

601
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: on the contract extension for Quasiadolfo Mensa and it's likely

602
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: quote Ian that both will be around for years to come.

603
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Good to hear you were on the on the forefront

604
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: of the lou An Arumo beat this off season.

605
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, see I record that.

606
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I interviewed with Atlanta. But he's going to the Colts.

607
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 7: Yes, Which I just feel like because there was so

608
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 7: much buzz around lou Anarumo this hiring cycle, and coming

609
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 7: from the defense in Cincinnati who did not have a

610
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 7: great year, I feel like that is sort of damning

611
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Speaker 7: to Cincinnati because of the way that they set up

612
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 7: Lou this year. And I think that ever since Jesse

613
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Speaker 7: Bates left, the whole defense kind of crumbled, like he

614
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 7: was sort of the Jenga piece, as Dave Damashak would

615
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 7: talk about. I feel like he was the Jenga piece

616
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 7: for that defense, and then it was just like they

617
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 7: weren't able to do the things that lou likes to do,

618
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Speaker 7: and that's why things just ended up the way in Cincinnati.

619
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Speaker 7: But I don't think it's an indictment or a reflection

620
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 7: of Lou as a coach, and I like the hir

621
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Speaker 7: in Indy.

622
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Speaker 1: All Right, well we'll revisit this and let's let's back

623
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Speaker 1: in on the cult.

624
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's a good call.

625
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, in six years when Lou's looking

626
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: for a different job, you'll give him six years there.

627
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: But no, how about in a year or two when

628
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: the Colts defense is coming off their title game appearance

629
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Speaker 1: or Super Bowl winning h thing in louse.

630
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Speaker 5: Gin I was early and Jack, she's I did want

631
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Speaker 5: to ask you this, Colleen. Are you surprised that Ballard

632
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: stayed like? That was one where I just I thought

633
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: that was a given that he would be gone, But

634
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: I guess not.

635
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess maybe the relationship that he has

636
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 7: with Ursa must be really good for him to still

637
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 7: be there. But I'm always surprised when it's not a

638
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 7: full like GM head coach, everyone's out, let's bring in

639
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 7: a full new chapter for each team, because that always

640
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 7: feels like it's the right way. And I know we've

641
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 7: talked about like there are examples like the Rams and

642
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 7: like some other teams that do it differently.

643
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Speaker 3: But I was surprised that they kept them.

644
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Speaker 2: I love it.

645
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: It's a good move. It feels like they needed a

646
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: new voice. Gus Bradley had been there a long time

647
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: before Sansteiken, and I think it makes a lot of sense.

648
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Just some quickies before we take a break. Brian Schottenheimer,

649
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator of the Cowboys, is interviewing for the

650
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: head coaching job, and some belief in Dallas he might

651
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: be the favorite. There we mentioned Jeff Albrook is Raheem

652
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Morris's new coordinator in Atlanta, and John Stryker back to

653
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Not back to the Patriots, but back to

654
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel. He is like his numbers guy Consiglieri.

655
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike Reese.

656
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 5: ESPN dot Com was reporting this over the weekend that

657
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Speaker 5: he John Striker, who is doing a situational game management

658
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 5: and analyst role for the Rams and specifically for Sean McVay,

659
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: is going to be heading back to Mike Rabel's staff.

660
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Speaker 5: McVeigh plucked him out of Tennessee when Rabel was not

661
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: going to be doing a job this last year. And

662
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Speaker 5: it's interesting because it's pretty much night and day. A

663
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Speaker 5: nicknamed Stretch, he had had such a stellar reputation across

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Speaker 5: the league for finding little ways to win in margins

665
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Speaker 5: and finding little advantages, little rules bending, little things with

666
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Speaker 5: game management and situational analysis. That's been such a huge

667
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 5: talking point around the league, little things with the clock

668
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: and with managing officials and all of these different types

669
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 5: of things that we don't often think about, but when

670
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: they happened, we're.

671
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Like, that was so cool.

672
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: How'd they think of that?

673
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 5: That was all Stretch And everyone remembers the punt the

674
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: punt play or the excuse me, the clock management where

675
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 5: Rabrael Alt Belichick, Belichick, you know, Stretch was on his

676
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: staff at that time, and he completely changed the way

677
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: that Sean McVay manages games. I mean, he's now going

678
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: forward on fourth down most of the time when he should.

679
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: He's doing really interesting things that he never would have

680
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 5: even thought about before, like fake throwing a challenge flag.

681
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: Now this is not He would not confirm this to me,

682
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: but he laughed hard enough to make me think this

683
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: is what happened. Fake throwing a challenge flag even though

684
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: you knew you couldn't challenge the play because there was

685
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: four forward progress on the play and you could not

686
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: challenge it. But the challenge, which you knew you weren't

687
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 5: going to lose because the officials would give it back

688
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 5: to him because you can't challenge on that play, would

689
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: give the defense time to research and sub and different

690
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: things like that that the Rams have quietly been doing

691
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: all year because they knew they needed those advantages with

692
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: a roster that was either young or less than in

693
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: a different ways. I think this is quietly a huge

694
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Speaker 5: higher and it also does play into or a rehire

695
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 5: in that regard, and it does quietly play into a

696
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 5: lot more coaching staffs are very under the radar hiring

697
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: these guys who exists with the Ravens, John Park with

698
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: the Cowboys, who is with the Colts for a long time.

699
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: They definitely miss him.

700
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: Guys who are on the field doing these things versus

701
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 5: in an office somewhere down on the other side of

702
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: the building working with an analytics department. They're in the

703
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 5: headset now, And I think that's really interesting.

704
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good hire. Rabel knows him well. Say's

705
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: contingly area and what is old is new again? I

706
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: mean that's Ernie Adams's role with the Patriots, which NFL

707
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Films has done about fifteen different Like, no guy that

708
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: didn't have an official title has been immortalized more than

709
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Ernie Adams, who essentially was Bill Belichick's game management analytics

710
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: guy in the headset during games. The whole time he

711
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: was with the Patriots. So Rabel's got his guy. All right,

712
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back with the segment

713
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: on the other side.

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Speaker 8: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks. I've left them of

715
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Speaker 8: their states lugery swits for the adventure of them. Brid

716
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 8: Iron heroes are used to leading their teams on the field,

717
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: But can they outplay, outlast, and outthrow each other in

718
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 8: the ultimate survival challenge? You ain't everything you have with

719
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 8: the gobe to we find a way to win the.

720
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 7: No matter what.

721
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 8: The stakes are high and the competition is fierce.

722
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: But I thought we were done.

723
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: I thought we were.

724
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 8: Done wise to the top, and who.

725
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 7: Will be.

726
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: That's the problem. Al right, back, let's go. This is

727
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Quarterback of the Island. Is here here he.

728
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: As self appointed mayor of Quarterback Island?

729
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to even be there? I herefore call this.

730
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: Surprise emergency Meeting of Quarterback Island to order. Our co

731
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: executive producer Jordan rod Rieg said she had an item

732
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: of business. And it's like one of those things where

733
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: the Congress all like leave early for the holidays and

734
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: they're like, nope, we've got to vote on some bills

735
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve.

736
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: Everyone get back to the Capitol, people to work.

737
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: Here, I deem this topic and this matter at hand

738
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 5: as crucial and necessary business. Okay, I hereby use my

739
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: one and only riptide card.

740
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: We still have them.

741
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: We still have them.

742
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 5: Okay, to pull Sam Darnold off of quarterbacks?

743
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well, remind everyone what a riptide card is.

744
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 5: A riptide card is a one single use card for

745
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: an entire NFL season and postseason, that in which you

746
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 5: can pull without argument, one player off of Quarterback Island

747
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 5: that you so choose. Now, unlike Greg's opinion on the matter,

748
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: you cannot then instantly replace a player of your choosing.

749
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest, we're all just playing fast and

750
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: loose with the rules at this point of this season, your.

751
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: Honor, some people, there are no rules.

752
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 5: But I thereby would present to you all a nomination

753
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: which then we would vote.

754
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: Upot okay, so to review.

755
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: When we finished the season and we thought it was

756
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: for the season, We even sent out a little graphic.

757
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: The final class of QB Island twenty twenty four was

758
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff, justin Herbert

759
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and Geno Smith.

760
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: And you believe the evidence since then has caused you

761
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: to just pull that poor boy Sam Darnold off the island.

762
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: And it wasn't just the last game of the season.

763
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 5: It was that the struggles compounded into the postseason while

764
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: another quarterback ascended. And so now that we have an

765
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: empty space on quarterback Island, I would like to argue

766
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 5: back and present to you for nomination. Matthew Stafford. Oh, first,

767
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: I admit that he wasn't a fully worthy Islander by

768
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: the end of the season, based on some of the

769
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 5: rolls of his season overall, and especially the back third

770
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: of it, which he admitted to me. We talked about

771
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: this after the Vikings game, about how he did not

772
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 5: play his best football or even close to it through

773
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: the back third of the seasoning here, yes, yeah, you know,

774
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm there, and I covered the team that. Yeah, that's

775
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: good anyway, So yes, and so actually justifying not having

776
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 5: him on. But the postseason performance against the Vikings, after

777
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: the chaos of the fires of that week and the

778
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: relocated game, Stafford did not just play an efficient game,

779
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: he made a couple of his signature like only Matthew

780
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: Stafford would even try that throw, let alone complete it.

781
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 5: And even then I'd say, Okay, good stuff. You'd still

782
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: be fair leaving the island as it is, because only

783
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: extreme circumstances might get us to revisit what was voted

784
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 5: on and therefore solidified.

785
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 4: At the end of the season.

786
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: And I think these are extreme circumstances. I was in

787
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Philadelphia watching and listening as he with busted ribs single

788
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: handedly sent a ripple of quiet dread into one of

789
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: the toughest and most badass fan bases in football history,

790
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: and in the snow and icy winds made even those

791
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 5: Eagles fans into believers as he put that defense totally

792
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: on the ropes.

793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: With those last two drives.

794
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 5: The way he played in those moments that made everyone

795
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 5: understand that if the Rams were to win that game,

796
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 5: they could legitimately win the Super Bowl, and his whole

797
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 5: team came with him, and he convinced the head coach,

798
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: who at times has been the one who you've had

799
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: to pull into the feeling, and the quarterback who can

800
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: actually do that to get Sean McVay to believe right

801
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 5: along with you. That quarterback who can silence that road

802
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: stadium and sling it in the elements and take control

803
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 5: in that way even though he can't move for crap,

804
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: should get to spend his off season in the warm

805
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: comforts of Quarterback Island, where other current members Sam Donald,

806
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: Jared Goff, and Justin Herbert, well not Donald anymore, totally

807
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 5: crumbled in the playoffs. Thank you for the time and

808
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: for your consideration.

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00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: Wow, listen, I'm not going to stick up for Sam Donald.

810
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 7: He burned me in a really big spot multiple times,

811
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 7: and I am just very disappointed, Like I am mad

812
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 7: and disappointed in Sam Donald.

813
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's right.

814
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: On game day morning, you went hard on Sam Donald.

815
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: I was like, this is gonna pay off.

816
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: Look like a get you did it a social post

817
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: up in my face. I actually gave you a gift

818
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: of telling you how right you were about Sam Donald

819
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: on this show.

820
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: Did you keep the receipt?

821
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: You know, times things change, and that's just what life is.

822
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate because, like for a lot of he really

823
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: did help define the season, and yet this isn't the

824
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: MVP vote. Why do we have to be locked into

825
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: the end of the regular season we're making this up

826
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: as we go along. And now when you look back

827
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: at the season as a whole, I do think you

828
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: will remember those two Matthew Stafford performances. When I rewatched

829
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: that game in the snow, I was even more impressed

830
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: on the All twenty two that first drive and it

831
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: was indicative of the rest of the game. Included three

832
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: tight window throws that just shouldn't have been completed, that

833
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: had to be absolutely perfect. Wasn't snowing at that point

834
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: to be fair, but just the tight window rate in

835
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: that game was so much higher than any other team

836
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: that played all weekend. Darius Slay said it after the game,

837
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: just how Stafford to sling it into like the smallest

838
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of windows and he got it done. And to do

839
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: that and do it after the performance that he had

840
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: with the Rams having to evacuate and then leave the

841
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: city and get the win, he is one of the

842
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: defining features. And I am ready to vote yes on

843
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold.

844
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: Well, you don't get a choice on I use my

845
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: rib t. You don't get a choice, But the vacancy

846
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: should go to Matthew Stafford, is my yes.

847
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 7: Oh, I think everyone is agreeing on that. I definitely

848
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 7: thought that Matthew Stafford was going to lead the Rams

849
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 7: to a win at the end, Thank god, Jaalen.

850
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Carter came in and stop that.

851
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 7: They had all the momentum in the world though, and

852
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 7: the Rams looked really, really good, and it was just

853
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 7: like in the snow. Ye it wasn't It didn't feel

854
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: like that was supposed to happen. And then all of

855
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: a sudden they had life thanks to Jake Elliott missing

856
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 7: those two extra points and the way that they just

857
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 7: kind of caught fire and were able to just march

858
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 7: right down the field.

859
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 4: Two things.

860
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 5: One, the guy who was running the elevator to go

861
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: get us up and down into the bowels of the

862
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: stadium where we were running to postgame press conferences and

863
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: all of that kept referring to kept saying the phrase,

864
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: Missy Elliott almost cost us the game, and I was like,

865
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: it took me so long, actually click, that's it was incredible.

866
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: I was like, I love Philadelphia Eagles fans, like that's

867
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 5: because he missed the two kicks, and oh, it took

868
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 5: me so long to actually understand, and because I was.

869
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 4: Like, how was she here?

870
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: Like I haven't been sleeping.

871
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then and then the other thing was like

872
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: that that Jalen Carter outside inside fakestep to make it

873
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: look like running a stunt and then actually coming up

874
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: the middle had bolimmer in a blender, and it just

875
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: it's fortunate that you know, it's a rookie center for

876
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: the Rams playing there the stadium, Like, I give all

877
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: the compliments, and I mean it to Philadelphia Eagles fans,

878
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: I love to hear. I mean, I love, I love football.

879
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: And that was so effing football. It rocked snow games.

880
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: It was so sick games and.

881
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: Philly are absolute best. I was so sad that I

882
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: wasn't there.

883
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: It was so sick.

884
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 5: And but they it almost felt like they were all

885
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: holding their breath.

886
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: That was.

887
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: It was spooky and cool, and no it wasn't snowing snowing,

888
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 5: but there was like ice and sleep coming out of

889
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: the sky the entire second half, even though even in

890
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 5: some of those tight window throws.

891
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I meant the first that first quarter driver,

892
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: he was electric and he kept it going in that

893
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: that that ten play drive there's he might be the

894
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: only guy on the planet that could have done that

895
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: drive that way, getting ten plays done one he was

896
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: he was absolutely incredible.

897
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: So you sure feels like it.

898
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, hurt. There you go. So Matthew Stafford,

899
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: you've made.

900
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 7: It in Uh congratulations, thank you for that, and hopefully

901
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 7: Steve Wish approves, you know, but we outvoted you anyways,

902
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 7: three we got a voting.

903
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Block of three. Yes, got from Matthew Stafford and now

904
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: QB Island.

905
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: I won't be murdered in my sleep.

906
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: For the season. Sorry, Sam, let's do the segment.

907
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: That was a nice little surprise. Uh. It was just

908
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: something that that you thought that basically maybe maybe you'll

909
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: upset people, maybe not, but that you're going to choose

910
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: violence on this great Tuesday. Why don't you go college?

911
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: Oh okay, great, that did sound violent.

912
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I a great Honestly.

913
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 7: I choose violence, first of all, against my landlord, who's

914
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 7: deciding right now to rip up all of the bricks

915
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 7: and concrete that's around the house. So jackhammers are NonStop

916
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 7: all morning and afternoon.

917
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: And that's fine.

918
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 7: That's that's something that I'm dealing with though personally. But

919
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 7: I choose violence against the Eagles passing game is a

920
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 7: problem argument.

921
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 3: The argument. I can't do the argument right now. I mean, yeah,

922
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

923
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 7: This problem is like such an issue that they are

924
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 7: one game away from going to.

925
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.

926
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 7: I'm so sorry that they didn't pass the ball in

927
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 7: the snow and all of those conditions.

928
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that they have.

929
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley and one of the best offensive lines in

930
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 7: the entire league. How dare they run the ball? How

931
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 7: dare they do what's working for them? Like, who cares

932
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 7: how they're winning, They're doing it. I don't understand why

933
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 7: people are complaining and picking apart this team when they're

934
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 7: going for the NFC championship this weekend, Like, get out

935
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 7: of here?

936
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: Uh, how will they ever fix themselves?

937
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh?

938
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: No, Like, I get it.

939
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 7: Things would be a lot easier for the Eagles if

940
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 7: they were able to have a more consistent, balanced offense. Sure,

941
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 7: like these wins would probably come in an easier fashion

942
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: for them. But they're still winning. And if you have Saquon,

943
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: you have this defense that's so good, that offensive line,

944
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: that running game, just lean on it and see where

945
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 7: it takes you.

946
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: Look cut, Colleen, it's so annoying. I hate it.

947
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Also, are you watching that one again? First half? Jalen

948
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: hurts that was like a B plus Jalen Hurts game.

949
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: He played well.

950
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: He took a couple of sacks he shouldn't have, which

951
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: he's just gonna do at this point. But if DeVante

952
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: Smith doesn't get his head taken off and aj Brown

953
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't drop great go ball on a touchdown, they're up

954
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: twenty to seven at halftime, and Jalen Hurts has about

955
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards and he made all the

956
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: right decisions in terms of when to run take the

957
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: five yards, when to slide, and he actually was hitting

958
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: his check down more often than usual. He obviously has

959
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: shortcomings as like a pocket passer. He is also obviously

960
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback playing on this weekend, which is unfortunate.

961
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: But the good thing is it's a team sport and

962
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: he's playing at a level I think that can get

963
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: them over the finish line and win the Super Bowl

964
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: if they all play well around him and he plays,

965
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, closer to his best version and that he's healthy,

966
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: which maybe by the end of that game he was

967
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: not playing at his best version.

968
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: But I really I finely got hurt in the third quarter.

969
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do give them.

970
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: It also is like we're talking about like a couple

971
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: of different snaps late in that game that people are

972
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: talking about.

973
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was moving that bad.

974
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Actually, he didn't play nearly as bad as I thought

975
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: upon rewatching, and the offensive line had one of their

976
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: worst games season.

977
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: The offensive line's sneaking not been amazing for a month.

978
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: That's that's my like lukewarm take.

979
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh, they're terrible.

980
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: No, they're really good, terrible too, but they're like they're

981
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: not getting the running game going consistently enough.

982
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: Their success rate and they're down to down.

983
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Production hasn't been good, and they've made a lot of

984
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: mental errors and they gave up a couple mistakes mentally

985
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: for what the Rams were doing in terms of their

986
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: pass rush that they had like won really upfront.

987
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 5: I said this to you before the show. I thought

988
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 5: that was a B plus Jalen Hurts game. I thought

989
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: it was a D Kellen Moore all game because with

990
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 5: Philadelphia loves you today.

991
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: Loves Jordan rod Rey.

992
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 4: I had a great time in your study. I send

993
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: me more cheese steaks, please.

994
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: Everyone really runned off on you.

995
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: I in the walking in, I mean, you know, you

996
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 5: never know what can happen walking into that stadium.

997
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: In the parking lot.

998
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 5: No, So you know, the the deep drop calls, I

999
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 5: hate it. I'm like, yeah, I get them going in

1000
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 5: the checkdowns on the quick passing game.

1001
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: Don't even make it a check down.

1002
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 5: Give him a first to read outlet that's actually a

1003
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 5: short and a quick or a hot like, do those

1004
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 5: types of things that you can give to him. So

1005
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: he's not taking these deep drops and doing exactly what

1006
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 5: the Vikings at Nauseum did with Sam Darnold, these deep

1007
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 5: drops that play right into the hands of the strength

1008
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 5: of the Rams young pass rushers, even minus Braydon Fisk.

1009
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: That's what he kept doing, including in the end zone.

1010
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: I did not like that, but that's not on Jalen

1011
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: Hurts and when he was able to pick up gains

1012
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: and when he was able to get the ball down

1013
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 5: the field, whether taking the right moments to run before

1014
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: he got hurt or getting the ball to his playmakers,

1015
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: I thought he had a B plus game. I did

1016
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: not like the way Kellen Moore called that game at all.

1017
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I agree, but again, I guess it was rewatching. Just think,

1018
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: and you can do this with a lot of games,

1019
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: but I think it was more exaggerated with this one.

1020
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Was they were that Aj Brown, Like just three specific plays.

1021
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: AJ Brown dropping a pass he catches almost every time,

1022
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the Mackai Beckton illegal man downfield, which is a mental error,

1023
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: and the Lane Johnson fallse start at the goal line.

1024
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: If you get two of those three, you're scoring forty points.

1025
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: I could not they they they made mistakes, but offensively

1026
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: they moved the ball more than consistently enough, and the

1027
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: rams were up for the challenge. But also like if

1028
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: they don't make those mistakes, they're putting up forty and

1029
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: no one's talking about Jill Hearns.

1030
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: All right, your your choice.

1031
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 5: Well, to choose violence not really violent, but I do

1032
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 5: choose violence on behalf of punters everywhere.

1033
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: We've had some really good punts this year.

1034
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Guys, Oh my god, what is this?

1035
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: Colleagues like, got her head down?

1036
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: I think if a punter pins an offense inside the

1037
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 5: five yard line and then the defense gets a safety,

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 5: and then the punter stat sheet should account for one

1039
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: of the points. I choose violence on the half of

1040
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: my punters everywhere.

1041
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that feels more like a cat on your

1042
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: lap on a nice warm day. That's like a warm

1043
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: and fuzzy I don't know if that's violent.

1044
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: But I love it.

1045
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: I literally wrote, I don't have a violent take. I'm tired.

1046
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: That's good.

1047
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that idea just as a proposal though

1048
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: that punters, we should have more punting stats in general.

1049
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: Thanks like inside this.

1050
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: With more punting storyline.

1051
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: That was just a nice way to give Ethan Evans

1052
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: is his name?

1053
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 5: Well, yes, Ethan Evans had a great punt, but also

1054
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 5: be right before the safety. But also we've had some

1055
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 5: really outstanding especially punting is becoming an extension of the

1056
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 5: defense on some of these teams, and I've loved watching that.

1057
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 5: I will say I have another one that's I'm annoyed.

1058
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: I don't feel violent about it, okay, but I'm like

1059
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: annoyed about it.

1060
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: I don't think that coaching candidates, regardless of whether they're

1061
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: in a playoff game or not, should be able to

1062
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 5: interview with teams until everybody is done playing.

1063
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 2: Yeah you know who agrees with you?

1064
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 4: Who?

1065
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 5: Me?

1066
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: But also Bill Belichick I saw him make could you argue?

1067
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised because it's it's been a tough.

1068
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm annoyed by it.

1069
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: A parasocial relationship year for me and Bill Belichick. He

1070
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: doesn't know this, but I have not enjoyed his media career,

1071
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: and it just hasn't been saying anything.

1072
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: And I often disagree. It's just hasn't been good.

1073
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: I don't like how to handle that that I'm not

1074
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 5: saying anything.

1075
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we agree with it. He made he

1076
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: made this point, and I saw it this week. He

1077
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: made this exact same case, and I do agree with it.

1078
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 7: Greg was like, finally Bill Belichick says something that's worth something.

1079
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

1080
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm just annoyed about it.

1081
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 5: I think it sets everybody back, whether it is trying

1082
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: to do right by minority candidates, whether it is stressing

1083
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 5: the f out of candidates who are preparing for playoff

1084
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: games and taking things off of their plate, whether it

1085
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: is basically just wasting time by people you know you're

1086
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 5: not going to hire. You're just waiting for coaches on

1087
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 5: good teams, and it's like, everyone, chill, wait one second.

1088
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 5: It's your own fault if you're so god awful that

1089
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: you fired your coach halfway through the season. Let the

1090
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: good teams cook and fully focus and wait your turn

1091
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: to speak to them, and then in that way, everything

1092
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 5: equalizes a little bit more.

1093
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: This is common sense, like this is what the rule

1094
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: should be.

1095
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: And I wonder though, if the Lions hadn't lost, let's

1096
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: say they go to the Super Bowl, does Ben Johnson

1097
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: get hired by the Bears for sure?

1098
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1099
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they wait till February and it's fine, and

1100
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: it's and it's kind of a agreed to like Kyle

1101
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: seen with that money was back back in the day.

1102
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like the whole thing seems off to me,

1103
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: because of course it's a distraction. People talk about like, oh,

1104
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: distractions in the locker room, and like I'm not saying

1105
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: that the Lions lost because of that, but of course

1106
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: it's a distraction. You're going to these interviews, and if

1107
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: you really want to get the job, you're really preparing

1108
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: hard for the interviews and spending a lot of time.

1109
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: Not that like you're not it's not like they're missing

1110
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: team meeting anything like that.

1111
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of stress.

1112
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 5: It's just like well, and also and also it's it's

1113
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 5: derivative of the candidate's time, regardless of who they are,

1114
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 5: because you're saying, oh, we'll go on Zoom for an hour.

1115
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: That way, we're not taking up your time, and it's like,

1116
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: how the hell could you get a feel for somebody

1117
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: over zoom in an hour? And then second of all,

1118
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: like you're not even really actually doing proper research at

1119
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: that point and it's all being agent fed instead instead

1120
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: of you getting in the weeds with these people and

1121
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: like actually looking and seeing what they're about and like it, okay,

1122
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 5: I am violent about it.

1123
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, And just never even met with the Bears

1124
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: in person, Like that was just a right.

1125
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: It was just why everyone came out to see him.

1126
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're like, are we sure this is him around?

1127
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: He's not wearing a hat?

1128
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: I mean yeah.

1129
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: It is a little crazy, and of course it would

1130
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: be distracting less so for the gms, this is actually

1131
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: a good time. This is coaching specific to be taking

1132
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: those interviews. They're busy, but they they can they can

1133
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: handle it. But that's like a lot of a lot

1134
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: of preparation. Actually, our our friend Anthony Weaver, I'm calling

1135
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: him a friend because he was a guest on the show,

1136
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think you would know who I was

1137
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: quite yet, but I'm calling him a friend. In Miami,

1138
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: they asked him a week or two before the season

1139
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: and about interviewing for these jobs, and he was like,

1140
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, my agent was getting on me because he

1141
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: asked me, what have I done to prepare for these

1142
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: interviews and I told him absolutely nothing. I'm just I'm

1143
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: putting everything into these final weeks of the season. And

1144
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: that was, you know, the regular season, And that was

1145
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe a tell that, like, he might have an uphill

1146
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: battle in this in this cycle, because there are certainly

1147
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: coaches that have gone through it a few times and they.

1148
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: Would respect that.

1149
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do respect it.

1150
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: If you're especially if you're working for the Dolphins, you

1151
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: respect it.

1152
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: But like it takes a lot.

1153
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: Anyways, let's go to my favorite part of the show

1154
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: and it's called Puppy Corner. Let's learn about man Colleen

1155
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Wolf before we say goodbye. I know your life has

1156
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: been thrown upside down by a new creature.

1157
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, one day, why didn't I.

1158
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 7: Just drive out to Palmdale in the middle of nowhere,

1159
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 7: go to the pound.

1160
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: And pick up a puppy. It's gonna be so nice.

1161
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 7: I finally will have like a full time puppy living

1162
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 7: with me. And I mean I didn't really realize how

1163
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 7: much of a puppy this one was they said she

1164
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 7: was about a year and a half, which, yeah, that's

1165
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 7: still puppy energy. But she's a border Collie so she's

1166
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 7: very smart.

1167
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: And very active.

1168
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 7: And I went with Keema, which, by the way, if

1169
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 7: anyone gave me a name submission, thank you.

1170
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: That was so entertaining.

1171
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: Here's a picture if you're watching on YouTube, your face.

1172
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: It's the only exclusive of place you can find a

1173
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: picture beautiful Keema.

1174
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 3: So yes, I went with Keema.

1175
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 7: I got hundreds of name submissions. My mom has actively

1176
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 7: told me that she doesn't like the name Keema and

1177
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 7: has given me another set of possible names, but.

1178
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: Kema is I can't leave the house.

1179
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 7: Without Keema freaking out because she has separation anxiety. So

1180
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 7: I have been sort of under house arrest and just

1181
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 7: trying to work with her. She pulled out her in

1182
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 7: her stitches and staples on her. She got spade and

1183
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 7: she worked her way out of multiple cones, so we're

1184
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 7: now on the third cone. I watched Sunday's games, the Eagles.

1185
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 7: I watched everyone on Sunday at the animal hospital because

1186
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 7: I was there with her as she got re stitched

1187
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 7: and stapled. So now she's home and I have someone

1188
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 7: watching her, so I'll go back and Yeah, today I

1189
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 7: found her standing on top of the kitchen table like

1190
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 7: a cat.

1191
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: But she's forty five pounds.

1192
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: A counter surf huh, I love it. Oh my god.

1193
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: I grew up with a it's going shalty, a Shetland

1194
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: sheep dog, which is a close relation a mix that

1195
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: includes the border colleague. Yeah, and I could have I

1196
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: could have told you they're a little more, you know

1197
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: how some people say like, oh, yeah, my dog is

1198
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a cat. Like they're not that

1199
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: they're going to take their their high maintenance.

1200
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: They're a lot. Yeah, they're a lot of fun, but

1201
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: they're a lot.

1202
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 3: She's very funny, just very smart though.

1203
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, so she has already figured out a lot of

1204
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 7: workarounds for things.

1205
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what a terrorist. I'm so excited for you.

1206
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: First of all, she is fully emotionally and physically in

1207
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 5: charge of your house now, So congratulations. I'm really excited

1208
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 5: for you though, because my Tucker is a shepherd college mix.

1209
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 4: Oh, he countersurved. Just to give your heads up.

1210
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 5: He counter surfed until he was no so and this

1211
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,479
Speaker 5: was barricades. He knows how to open doors. He learned

1212
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: how to do all of these things. But once they once.

1213
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: But I'm it's a good thing. It's a good thing.

1214
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: Once once they grow into you and learn you, it's

1215
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 5: like they really respect your tendencies and your personality and

1216
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 5: the way that you operate her, and like they fit

1217
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 5: themselves into your life in a very cool, very human way.

1218
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 5: And it's it's so rocks because you can see them

1219
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 5: figuring it out, like she's figuring you out. I don't know,

1220
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 5: but Eric is laughing more than I just love I

1221
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 5: love that for you.

1222
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 4: I'm excited.

1223
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: I love it too.

1224
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: You have about five years until really calms down.

1225
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 7: You had a child, ye, that was like you like

1226
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 7: gradu to get like day care for her.

1227
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm flying my dad out here.

1228
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 7: To watch her when I go to the super Bowl

1229
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 7: because like she can't be left alone for even thirty seconds.

1230
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: She cries.

1231
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 7: When I go into the shower, she freaks out.

1232
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: Six or seven those were prime, you know, years after.

1233
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: The amount of negotiating I did with her.

1234
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 4: That's she that's that they love that.

1235
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: Uh huh. Yeah. She learned steps the other day and

1236
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: what mirrors are.

1237
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 7: So we're really just I have she's like four months old.

1238
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: It feels like.

1239
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: I'm so happy for you though, because you two are

1240
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 5: begining to become this bonded pair, like she's going to

1241
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 5: be ride or died, just all about.

1242
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 3: It's just cool.

1243
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm excited for you.

1244
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: I know it's a lot. I can Tucker and I

1245
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: volunteer to help with whatever. He's very calming. He's been

1246
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: through it, you know. He's like, I've been that girl,

1247
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 5: you know. So yeah, whatever you need, we got your Yeah.

1248
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: Well, that was another episode of Puppy Corner.

1249
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: There will be many more.

1250
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to return.

1251
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: I've cried so many times.

1252
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, are you okay? Yeah, I'm sure.

1253
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: It's like Rihanna said, you know, you found in love

1254
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: in a hopeless place. There was there was all this

1255
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: tragedy in our area, and coming out of the fire

1256
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: there came Keema into your life.

1257
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: You did a really good thing, Colleen.

1258
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: Will you will remember.

1259
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll all be mashed up together, right, the

1260
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: fires and Keema coming into your life now now forever.

1261
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: I love her.

1262
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: She's really sweet, she's funny, She's just a handful. So

1263
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 7: I brought a terrorist into the home.

1264
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: And I mentioned at the top of the show that

1265
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: you were still receiving some holiday cards before we say goodbye.

1266
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: Who cares it's January twenty first here you want to

1267
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: open one? I have a feeling Colleen's.

1268
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Tree is still up. Am I right?

1269
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: No?

1270
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: No? I thought mean, I mean you got one from Germany.

1271
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 7: Got one from Germany. That's cool, it was really fun.

1272
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: This is from Pascal Brogue.

1273
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: Hammer cool.

1274
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 3: He says, hi to Tim my brother, so thank you

1275
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: for that.

1276
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 7: We got one from Emily Volts and Luke.

1277
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Shout out to Toby Straker, the only listener who addressed

1278
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: me and colleague, Oh, so I like you. We got

1279
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: we got one from South Dakota and North Dakota.

1280
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: We you guys got one from Adrian Vasquez from North Texas.

1281
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 5: And he said something I can relate to. Forgive this

1282
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: smeared envelope. I'm a lefty. Best wishes for.

1283
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: Toby.

1284
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: By the way, is a Raiders fans does mention you

1285
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: specifically Bordan in the in the card and says he's

1286
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to more draft content soon. I'm glad you

1287
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that, Toby, because we're going to go hard. It's

1288
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: a daily podcast. We're gonna go very hard on the

1289
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I'm looking forward to that. Sounded like a

1290
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: threat season.

1291
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh, Emily got a new puppy.

1292
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 7: Oh, she says, Merry Christmas to Colleen.

1293
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: Greg Jordan's whole yes corner continues.

1294
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: You guys are the best. We we love our viewers,

1295
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: our listeners. Keep playing it eric as we get out

1296
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: of here.

1297
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 4: Oh go birds.

1298
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 7: From one long suffering Philly fan to another, my dog

1299
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 7: says hello.

1300
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: I love that.

1301
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: I just hope, honestly, if you guys keep sending Christmas

1302
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: cards throughout the year, this can be a semi regular Oh,

1303
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: this is amazing part of the show. We'll be back

1304
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Luke Patrick claibon some special guests. Yes, when

1305
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: when the Jets and the Bears are getting their fan

1306
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: bases hopes up again.

1307
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: It's hope season already for teams.

1308
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: Around the NFL. You know football is back. I'll see

1309
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: you Wednesday.

1310
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: I love the parts