1 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Securing America with Me, Frank Affney, the program 2 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies foreign and domestic. To the 4 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: glory of God and his Kingdom. A man I consider 5 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: to be one of the glories of God is with us. 6 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased to say for this full hour. His 7 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: name is Bill Federer. He is one of our times 8 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: most extraordinary, certainly prolific authors on matters involving history. And 9 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure there is an aspect of history which 10 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: is a pretty big tableaux that he hasn't painted a 11 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: bid on and done so with extraordinary clarity and good humor, 12 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: but also with the truth telling that our times desperately require. 13 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: And I want to commend to you, in particular a 14 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: book that he has written, well, something on the order 15 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: of I guess thirteen years or so ago. No, not quite. 16 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: My math isn't very good, but it's a long time 17 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: ago two thousand and seven, in which he is laying 18 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: out what every American should know about the Qur'an and 19 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: a history of Islam in the United States. This is 20 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: just one of again the subjects on which Bill Veederer 21 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: is so accomplished. I had the privilege of hearing Bill 22 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Federer describing, in the space of well, I don't know, 23 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: seven or maybe ten minutes, the history of the Qur'an, 24 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: basically the life of Muhammad forward, and doing so in 25 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: a way that, as is generally the case in his presentations, 26 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: crammed an immense amount of information and history into a 27 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: very short but very comprehensible treatment, and the takeaway of it, 28 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: unmistakably was from the dates in which Muhammad became a 29 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: well at brigand, among other things, a warrior, a war lord, 30 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: a power broker, and ultimately a conqueror in the city 31 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: of Medina. On the faith or the political ideology, I 32 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: think more accurately that he founded has been totalitarian, demonic, 33 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: and anti constitutional with respect to our republic, and we 34 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: lose sight of that, we fail to acknowledge it, and 35 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: more importantly, we fail to act on that reality at 36 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: our extreme peril. We're grateful to Bill Federer for all 37 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: of these insights, and we're going to explore them in 38 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: the course of this full program, and I couldn't be 39 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: more pleased to have him with us. Bill, welcome back 40 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: to securing America. My friend, great to have. 41 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: You, well, Frank, great to be with you. 42 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with this laydown that you did 43 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: and give our audience a flavor of the Qoran and 44 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: it's tutalitarian ideology. And why when we are told this 45 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: is simply a religion and therefore must be protected by 46 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: our Constitution's First Amendment, Well it ain't necessarily so. 47 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's important to get the background. And prior 48 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: to Mohammed, you had the Byzantine Roman Empire, which was Christian, 49 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: fighting the Persian Sassinid Empire, which was Zoroastrian, and they 50 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: beat each other up and left a power vacuum, and 51 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: into that vacuum came Islam. And so Mohammad was born 52 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: in five seventy a d. His father dies before he's born, 53 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 2: his mother dies when he's six, His grandfather and guardian 54 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: dies when he's eight. He's orphaned, taken in by an uncle, 55 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: Abu Talib, who's a merchant and takes Muhammad on camel rights, 56 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: and they go to differ. 57 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Could I just interrupt you for one second, Bill, there 58 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: are those who say he never existed. You're just laid 59 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: out several indications that he did. Are you satisfied that 60 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: there was such a man and that he had these 61 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: aspects to his early life. 62 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: Well, this is the accepted history, but I have to 63 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: admit that Mohammed and all of his original followers for 64 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: that first century were illiterate and they could never write 65 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: anything down. It wasn't until Jews and Christians were later 66 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: forced to convert they were the people of the book 67 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: that you began to see Koran verses written down. And 68 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: so the first century and a half or two centuries 69 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: of Islam, there's not very many records. It was an 70 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: oral society, bribal gangs in the desert, so it is 71 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: quite possible that he did not exist. These were oral 72 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: stories passed down. A matter of fact, it was not 73 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: until Khalif Uthman that the Koran was compiled and he 74 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: decided to take all these He was about the fourth 75 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: Khaliph after Mohammed. Khalif is the supreme leader. And you 76 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: had Mohammed, and then you had a Boubaker, who was 77 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: the first Khalif that fought in every one of Mohammed's 78 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: battles and so he knew the way. And then you 79 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: had Khalif Umar Khalif Uthman, Khalif Ali, Khalif Mawaiya, and 80 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: they were all murdered, and they were all father in laws. 81 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: And then the last case the son in law of Mohammed, 82 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: and it was infighting. It was like a family feud, 83 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: sort of like the coast and nostra of the and 84 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: and so. But they were all illiterate. People say, well, 85 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: how can somewhere that's a literate memorize all these verses. Well, 86 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: in Arabic they had a little rhyme to them, very 87 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: similar to rap music. So maybe there's a student that 88 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: can't read, but they memorize rap songs. Thomas Carlile wrote 89 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: in eighteen forty on Heroes and hero worship. He says 90 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: much of it is rhythmic, a kind of wild chanting. 91 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: So the evidence of Muhammad existing is very scarce. 92 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: But to the Muslims to pick up your narrative, though, 93 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: because there is a tradition that helps explain much of 94 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: what goes on in Islam today right to. 95 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: The There's a quote I have in my book. It says, 96 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: any Muslim scholars definition of what true Islam is is 97 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: one thing, but Islam on the street is something completely different. 98 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: So in other words, the common person in many of 99 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: these Muslim countries, they could really care less if Mohammed 100 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: existed or not. To them, it is a present day reality. 101 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: It would be similar to me proving that Romulus and 102 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Remus never really existed to found the Roman Empire. Well, 103 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Rome at its height could really care less if it 104 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: was real or not or mythological. They're not going to 105 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: give up power, and so the fundaments are going to 106 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: wield it. And that's what, of course Islam is all 107 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: about wielding power. So pick up the story in Mecca 108 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: where Mohammed I guess first came to public attention. 109 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Right. 110 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: So, according to the classic accepted history, Mohammed was working 111 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: for his uncle Labu Talib, and they were merchants and 112 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: would go on camel rights to different cities and hear 113 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: about different religions. So a popular religion a century before 114 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Mohammed was Manicheism. A guy named Manny combined a little 115 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: bit from different religions. From his point of view, he 116 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: was extracting the truth from these different religions. But a 117 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: follower of Manicheism was Saint Augustin. Until he met the 118 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: guy realized he didn't know what he's talking about and 119 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: spent the rest of his life debunking Manichism. But Mohammad 120 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: heard about this idea that maybe there's little bits of 121 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: truth in different and all the different religions, and so 122 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: Mohammad went to Persian cities that were Zoroastrian, and the 123 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: Persians believed that paradise was filled full of virgins that 124 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: would fulfill all the guy's desires, and that found its 125 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: way into Mohammad's belief system. 126 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: It certainly no way. We're going to talk about how 127 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: it played into, among other things, jihad in just a 128 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: moment with more with Bill Fetter State Tak Yet. Welcome back, 129 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: Bill Federer, one of our times great historians and great 130 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: storytellers is with us. We're talking about the Qur'an, what 131 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: every American needs to know about it, and how the 132 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: history of Islam and the United States have formed over 133 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: the years. Bill, you were giving us the short course 134 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: on the history of Muhammad as it has been passed 135 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: down to oral tradition and written word. Pick up this 136 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: thought that Muhammad was sort of picking up around the 137 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: known world at the time that he traveled to elements 138 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: of religions and fashioned his own out of them, right. 139 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: So the Zoroastrians also believed in jins or genies, and 140 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: this appears in Islam as one thousand and one Arabian 141 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Nights and Aladin's lamp types stuff. The Sabinians from the 142 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Yemen area, they would take an annual pilgrimage to Mecca 143 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: and walk around the Kabbab, which I'll tell you about, 144 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: and they would stone Satan. They would cut off hands 145 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: of thieves, and a lot of those practices got incorporated 146 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: into Islam. 147 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: In Mecca, there was a kabbab before there was Islam. 148 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Is that right correct? So for centuries pre Mohammed, there 149 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: was a square building in Mecca that housed three hundred 150 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: and sixty different pagan gods. The most popular was Whobal 151 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: the moon got and they had a rock they thought 152 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: had fallen from the moon. It's a glass impact rock 153 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: where a meteor hit the hot desert sands melted into 154 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: the brown glass, and these pagans would kiss it, walk 155 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: around a bottle it. First centuries pre Muhammed, Mohammed kissed 156 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: that rock and it got incorporated into his belief system. 157 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: Then there is the Jewish faith and some stories from 158 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: the Talmud and Mishnah are reflected in Islam. He originally 159 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: had his followers bowing towards Jerusalem. And then there's the. 160 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Paper figures rather prominently in some of this right. 161 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Correct in Ishmael and Esau and the Christian faith. So 162 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: even Encyclopedia Britannica says the gospel was made known to 163 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Mohammed through apocryphal and heretical sources. So Mohammad thought that 164 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: Trinity was the father Mary and Jesus. Nobody explained to 165 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: him the Holy Spirit. In the Kabbah was a statue 166 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: of Mary and baby Jesus. And a century or so 167 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: before this, at the consul of Constantinople, they gave Mary 168 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: the title of Theotokis, Mother of God. And so he 169 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: was seeing this in the Kabbah. But the apocryphal what's that, well, 170 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, written several centuries after Jesus 171 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: by someone who knew nothing of Jewish life. It would 172 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: by you talking about Abraham Lincoln living in China. It's 173 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: like nobody takes the Infancy Gospel of Thomas serious. Little 174 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: Harry Potter type stories of Jesus making clay birds and 175 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: clapping and they flew away and raised a plainmate from 176 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: the dead, and some of those stories got incorporated into 177 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: Islam and they take him as fact. There's no other 178 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: place in ancient history that these stories appear other than 179 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: this infancy gospel that nobody takes serious. But now it's 180 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: the Crown they take it as fact. So we can 181 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: identify the pre Mohammed beliefs reflected in Islam. Mohammed goes 182 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: into Mecca six ten, a d well an important part 183 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: before this. He is a movement was sweeping through Christianity 184 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: at the time calledism or monasticism, where if you really 185 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: become a Christian, you should live in a cave as 186 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: a hermit. And so Mohammed in the Arab Egypt they 187 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: called him Desert Fathers. But Mohammad goes into a cave 188 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: and praise, and a spirit appears to him and squeezes 189 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: him and commands him to read, and he said, I 190 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: cannot read. Squeeze him a second time, said read. He 191 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: said I cannot squeez him a third time, and then 192 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: it sat on him and he began to recite, and 193 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: that's how the Koran came to him. He goes to 194 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: his wife Khadijah. According to ibn Ashak and tells her 195 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: that he thinks he's demon possessed. And she decides to 196 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: test the visitant this spirit and has Mohammed sit on 197 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: her right thigh and says can you see it? And 198 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: he goes, yes, over there, and she has him sit 199 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: on her left thigh. Can you see it? 200 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 201 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Over there? She has him sit on her her lap, 202 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: and then she begins to disclose her form and reveal, 203 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: take off some of her veils and says, can you 204 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: see the spirit? And he said no, And she said, well, 205 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: it must have been from God, because it was embarrassed 206 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: to look upon me without all my veils on. That 207 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: was the test that Mohammad used to decide whether the 208 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: spirit of Prington was from God or not. Now, according 209 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: to First John four, it gives a test. Every spirit 210 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: that does not acknowledge Jesus as a christis of Antichrist. Well, 211 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: she Khadija takes Mohammed to her cousin, who's an Ebionite 212 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: Christian priest, which is a heretical sect that said Jesus 213 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: is less than God, and he suggests that maybe this 214 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: spirit is the one that appeared to Moses. He dies 215 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: and so Mohammad is left with this spirit, and then 216 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: in six' TEN ad he goes Into mecca and he 217 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: anticipates that everybody's going to join because there's something in 218 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: it for. Everyone when they, don't it's. Interesting one of 219 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: the Cities mohammad wanted to get follow. Him they worshiped 220 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: the three daughter. Gods these were stars like you Know 221 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: orian and so the uh he gets verses from the 222 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: three daughter. Gods and when the town refuses to Follow, 223 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: mohammed he wipes out the. Town and his followers, said, 224 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: well what about the verses you got from those daughter, 225 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: gods and he, goes those are From. Satan but, anyway 226 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: so he's In, mecca so they're Called satanic. Versus So 227 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: mohammed's In, mecca and when the people don't join him 228 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: as he, anticipated he gets confrontational and insults them and 229 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: tells them that their ancestors are burning in, hell and 230 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: so they decide to chase him out of. Town six 231 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: NINETEEN ad he tries going to a city Called. Altaith 232 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: they don't want. Them they pelt him with rocks and, 233 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: stones and then in six twenty TWO ad he goes 234 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: north to The jewish City. Medina, yeah. Tribe Three jewish 235 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: clans control the. City in their tolerant they Let mohammed 236 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: in as the First muslim. Immigrant he presents his. 237 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Faith process of migrating came to be known as the 238 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: hid Draw is that, right, yes, yes and that features 239 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: rather prominently and fur their. 240 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: Visira, yeah, yeah very. Important so six twenty TWO ad 241 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: is considered the year one in The arabic. Calendar so 242 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: The jews reject his. Faith so he changes the direction 243 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: of bowing From jerusalem To, mecca and he goes into 244 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: the minority neighborhoods and he begins to organize a. Following 245 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: and as his following gets, bigger he gets involved in. 246 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: Politics are like a community, organizer and he pressures The 247 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: jews the Three jewish clans to accommodate him and his 248 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 2: new followers. Politically they do and make a. Treaty Now 249 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: mohammad's a political leader in addition to being a religious. 250 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: Leader when his followers In mecca get confrontational and get 251 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: chased out of, town now there's lots Of muslim, immigrants 252 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: they come To medina And mohammad allows them to rob 253 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: the caravans headed To mecca in retaliation for the, meccans 254 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: chasing them out of. Town so Where jesus, said if 255 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: they take your, coat give them your, shirt his attitude, 256 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: was if they take your, house you, retaliate take their. 257 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Caravan you're the, victim and so up with his concept 258 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: of victimhood that we're the victims of they're. Intolerance therefore 259 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: were justified in attacking their. Caravans and so he gets. 260 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Thirty appealing to a guy who's seeking recruits to his. Program, 261 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: right this is a way to spread booty around and 262 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: everybody can prosper booty in the form, of you, know 263 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: whatever goods were being moved by the, caravans but also 264 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: people who would be put into slavery and, women you, 265 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: know seized and the. Like is that? 266 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well he gets verses from His allah on 267 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: how to distribute the, booty and one of the verses, 268 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Says allah has given you the slave girls as your. 269 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: Booty It's surah thirty three fifty Profit we've made lawful 270 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: to you the slave, girls who all has given you 271 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: his Booty surah eight forty. One whatever you take as 272 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: spoils of warlow a fifth thereof is For allah and 273 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: for the. Messenger So mohammed got a fifth of the 274 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: booty from robbing the. Caravan the Hadith Malik mulada says 275 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: When allah's messengers sent out a rating, party he would, 276 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: say make your rage in the name Of allah a. 277 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Fight whoever Denies, ala do not steal from the. Booty 278 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: so from the very beginning there was this treasure. Aspect 279 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: and The meccans send a thousand soldiers to escort and 280 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: protect their, caravan And mohammad defeats them with only three 281 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: hundred warriors at The battle Of badra in six twenty. 282 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: FOUR a d this amazing victory having the number so 283 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: hold that. 284 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Fis The battle Of badra is a big, deal, folks 285 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: and we're going to explore, why as it relates to 286 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: the kind of fight that we're in right now with 287 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: These jihadis and the danger that they pose to well 288 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: our way of life here in The United, states of, 289 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: course But western civilization as. Well stach informore the great 290 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: Historian Bill. Fetter right after this welcome, back we are 291 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: getting a short course in the history Of islam dating 292 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: From mohammed's, time and the reason it is so important 293 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: to understand the founder of this. PROGRAM i think of 294 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: it as a tutalitarian political ideology rather than a. Religion 295 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: is that the perfect, man as we're, Told mohammed the 296 00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: prophet is is a pretty well flawed, individual if not downright. Demonic. 297 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Bill you got us up to The battle Of. Budrum 298 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: tuckles through that and where we go next In mohammad. 299 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: Right So mohammad with three hundred defeats a. Thousand this 300 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: convinces him to be a military, leader and he fights 301 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: in sixty six battles and raids in the next eight 302 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: years before he, dies killing an estimated three thousand. People 303 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: The battle of A Hood, Expo expulsion Of banu and A, 304 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: deer the attack on The Banu, nostalic The battle of 305 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: The trench six twenty seven to. Eighty The meccans send 306 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: ten thousand soldiers To. Medina mohammad digs trenches and potholes 307 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: all around the, city which renders the superior cavalry of 308 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: The meccans. Useless you can't charge your horses and camels 309 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: across a field full of. Potholes they'll break their. Legs 310 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: mohammad goes as some of The meccans at, night bribes. 311 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Them they slip, away goes to some of the Other 312 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: meccans at, night threatens. Them they slip, away sort of 313 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: the bribe or the bullet gets freezing cold for a. 314 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: Week the rest of The meccans lose heart and, retreat 315 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: and he takes us as a, victory that, is enemies or, 316 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Cowards and he goes back into The jewish city Of. 317 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: Medina gets offen did? It one of The jewish tribes 318 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: confiscates their, property chases them out of. Town the other 319 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: two tribes keep their heads. Low they're sort of political 320 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: parties that don't get. Along and now there's only Two jewish. 321 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: Tribes he gets offended at the second one confiscates the, 322 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: property chases them out of, town and the Big jewish tribes, says, 323 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: well there were always competition for. Me now there's only 324 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: One jewish. Tribe and according to The, hadith he's taking a. 325 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Bath a spirit appears to, him, says how can you 326 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: rest when all those enemies in your? Midsty? Is where points? 327 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: At that Last jewish neighborhood bottles him in their neighborhood 328 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: for twenty eight. Days when they, surrender he brings them 329 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: to the, market chops off their, head six or seven 330 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: hundred sells the women and children into. Slavery so within 331 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: five years Of muhammed coming into The jewish city Of 332 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: medina as an, immigrant there's not A jew left in 333 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: the city Of. Medina they were chased, out killed or and. 334 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: Slave and so it's a three step Process, immigrate, increase, 335 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: eliminate immigrate as a religious, refugee and do a host, 336 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: community and then gather a following and get involved in. 337 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: Politics and then you have ran them outbreak some violence 338 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: that makes the previous inhabitants of the neighborhood no longer feel, 339 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: safe and they move out and you take over the. 340 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: Neighborhood and there's a fourteen hundred year track record of 341 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: watching this, happen and so so amative to put a 342 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: fine point on, it though that pattern is being practiced, 343 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: today and you're saying that there's a long tradition. There 344 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: folks engaged in this three step process of, immigrate increase 345 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: and eliminate are following the model of the perfect. Man 346 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: they're doing precisely What muhammad in his life, did and 347 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: therefore we must expect some of the other things that 348 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: came from that life to follow as, well should we, not, 349 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: Right so there's freedom for all religions In. America But 350 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: islam is not just a religion Because mohammad was not 351 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: just a religious. Leader he was a political and a military. 352 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: Leader so it's rpm really just political Military and we 353 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: faced this during The Cold war Where eisenhower said no 354 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: group can use The bill Of rights as a privileged 355 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: sanctuary from which to destroy The bill Of. Rights in other, 356 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: words you can't, say, oh we want freedom of speech 357 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: when your goal is to not allow freedom of. Speech 358 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: and So, islam wherever it comes, in was to take 359 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: advantage of the. Freedoms but once they get in, control 360 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: they do not allow those. Freedoms, Yes now the. 361 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: Particularly effective technique in society is like, ours is it? 362 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Not and it's interesting When mohammad was conquering Al, taif 363 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: he was using a catapult that was hurling rocks and 364 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: killing innocent women and. Children and when they Told, mohammed 365 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: his response was they are among, them so they got 366 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: to be killed. Too so it's okay. 367 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: To kill innocent women and children to Advanced islam Because mohammad. 368 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: Did and So mohammed then he gets lots of verses From. 369 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 2: Azalah you know his Youngest he had a dream two 370 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: nights in a row of him marrying six year old 371 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: daughter of his General aboobaker and consummates it when she's. 372 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: Nine within five years Of mohammed's, death every pre existing 373 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: culture In arabia is wiped. Out now there's two sets 374 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: of verses in The. Qur'an The quran is laid out 375 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: by length of, verse so the first chapter is the 376 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: longest and the last is the. Shortest if he would 377 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: have done this with The, bible the first chapter would 378 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: be palmd one nineteen and the last verse might Be 379 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: jesus wept or, something and so it's not laid out. 380 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: Chronological But, Bill i've. 381 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Always wanted to ask you this. QUESTION i find that 382 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: that makes almost incomprehensible the, book and at a, minimum 383 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: it makes indecipherable the trajectory Of muhammad's, life which, helps 384 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: if you understand, it to explicate and just the ways 385 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: you're talking about how he evolved from a relatively peaceful 386 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: chop to a brutal, warrior, torturer, enslaver you, know murder 387 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: and so. 388 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: On, yeah well that's actually intentional because it forces The 389 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: muslim to go to The emam and, say explain this to. 390 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Me and now the emam's in, charge and so it's 391 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: the local emam that. Decides so What mohammad permitted is, 392 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: permitted it is called. Halal What mohammad did not permit 393 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: is not. Permitted it is called. Haram So mohammad liked. 394 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: Cats cats are, halal they are. Permitted mohammad did not like. 395 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: Dogs they are a, haram they are not. Permitted So 396 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: islam is a long list of halals and. Harams what's, 397 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: permitted what's. Not, WELL i want to know why is that? 398 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: Haram i'm sorry you can't ask that, question BUT i 399 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: really want to know why is it? Haram if you ask, 400 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: again will kill. You it's considered doubt to want of, 401 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: question so you just. 402 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Obey it is. 403 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: A religion of dues and don't and you don't know, 404 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: Why and it's the local emam that keeps the, list 405 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: and So yea AND i would, Argue, bill it's less 406 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: a religion as you've just described it than it is 407 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: a complete way of, life which is how they Described, 408 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: sharia meaning all those things you're not allowed to, do 409 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: meaning all those things you must, do meaning all of 410 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: them in the service of What muhammad's life ultimately became. 411 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: About did it, not which was global rule to the 412 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: extent he could accomplish it in his time. Right Even 413 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: alexis To tokerville made that. Observation he, Said mohammad put 414 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: into the crown not religious doctrines, only but political, maxims 415 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: criminal and civil. Laws so even The tokyville, said it's 416 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: not just a, religion it's a political system and a military, 417 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: system and so as a political military. System Supreme Court 418 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: Justice Robert jackson wrote in nineteen fifty. Five he, says 419 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: the law of The Middle east is the antithesis Of western. 420 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Law so In western law we punished the. Rapist In islamic, 421 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: law they punished the woman who's a victim of rape 422 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: because she allowed herself to be used as a tool 423 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: Of satan to tempt the, man and therefore she gets 424 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: whipped a hundred. Times so we punish the, perpetrator they 425 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: punish the. Victim now there's two sets of verses in 426 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: The crown based on the two Cities muhammed lived. In 427 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: this is. Important In mecca he was just a religious. 428 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: Leader those verses are more. Moderate In medina he becomes political, 429 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: military and those verses are more political and. Military and 430 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: the later verses supersede the earlier, verses in other, words the. 431 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Lastic they are actually, abrogated meaning they have been. Replaced so, 432 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: when for, Example, bill there's a text that is widely, 433 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: used AS i understand, it in comparative religion courses in this, 434 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: country reduction to religion courses called The quran the early, 435 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: verses meaning that it just focuses on that relatively benign, 436 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: period and the things that replace those verses are not, 437 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: studied are not, taught are not exposed to the, student 438 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: and in many cases contribute to essentially the enlisting of 439 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: them into the faith before they understand the full. Package 440 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: is that? Fair? 441 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: Right so the Verses Muhamma god In mecca are called weak, 442 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: verses and they're superseded by the verses he got In. 443 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 2: Medina they're called strong. Verses by way of comparison The, 444 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: bible we have An Old testament with some, Violence New, 445 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: testament no. Violence jesus and The apostle didn't kill. Anyone 446 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: and what do we say the later example is what 447 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: we're going to try to. Follow it's the same way In, 448 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: islam only in. Reverse they're people versus came. First they're 449 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: superseded by the political militant verses that came, later and 450 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: so within five years Of mohammad's, death every pre existing 451 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: culture In arabia is wiped, out and then we begin 452 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: to See. Christianity So egypt Was christian for six, centuries 453 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: evangelized By mark that brought The gospel Of, Matthew, Mark, 454 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: luke And john until a mere it's been a lot 455 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: of invades around six forty. One And syria was Completely 456 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: christian for six, centuries evangelized by the Apostle paul Until 457 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: Khalif Umar conkers around six forty. Eight sort of interesting 458 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: when you examined. This egypt Had Coptic, christians which is 459 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: The egyptian word For. Egyptian it's Called, coptic and it's 460 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: being persecuted by The Byzantine christians Of. Rome The constantinople 461 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: and The muslim warriors come in offering to help The 462 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: coptics drive out The, byzantines and once they, do they 463 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: stay and then they take. Over so they took advantage 464 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: of the political, differences the same way that Three jewish 465 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: clans In medina didn't get. Along If mohammed would have 466 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: said in five, years there won't be a jew left 467 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: they'd have made up with each, other but he picks 468 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: like a. Pinball they'll use one, party then they'll use another, 469 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: party then they'll use. It but they're always being pulled 470 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: down to what will advance The islamic. Cause and So i'll. 471 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Hold that thought build because that's a perfect place at 472 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: which we need to break and pivot into where we 473 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: find ourselves today at the hands of those who are 474 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Emulating mohammed in all of the demonic ways that he 475 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: practiced his, program and that they are now intent on 476 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: forcing us to submit to that and much. More With 477 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Historia Bill feeder right after, this we're visiting With Bill, 478 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: federer the fantastically impressive historian of many many, subjects but 479 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about one of specific concern at the, moment 480 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: and that is what the history Of islam From muhammed's 481 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: time to the present teaches us about what his, adherents 482 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: those who believe in emulating him in every way and 483 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: following what has come to be known As, shariah the 484 00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: ideology Of islam to the letter imply for our country 485 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: and the rest Of western. Civilization And, bill you've described 486 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: in ways that are frankly, chilling the various types of 487 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: behavior That mohammed exhibited that are now part and parcel 488 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: of the practice Of, islam the practice specifically Of. Shariah 489 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: whether it, is you, know beheading your enemies or amputating 490 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: the you, know appendages of, thieves or whether it is brutalizing, 491 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: women child, marriage, rape, slavery, torture, brigandry you name. It 492 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: it's all legitimated By mohammad's example and the teachings of 493 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: The qur'an that he. 494 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: Espoused, No, well the Word islam means submission to the 495 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: will Of. ALLAH A muslim is one who has, submitted 496 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: and they think there will be world peace when the 497 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: whole world submits to the will Of. Allah so it 498 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: is a religion of. Peace it's just their definition of 499 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: the word piece is different than our. Definition our definition 500 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: of peace is different groups getting. Along their definition of 501 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: peace is World. Islam so Like lincoln during The Civil 502 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: war gave a, quote we all declare for, liberty but 503 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: it used in the same. Word we do not all 504 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: mean the same. Thing when The south says, liberty it's 505 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: kicking the norther their troops. Out when The north says, 506 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: liberty it's free the. Slave so the world In islam 507 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: is divided in, two the half that has submitted and 508 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: the half that's in the process of. Submitting it's called 509 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: The dar Al islam and The dar Al, harb the 510 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: house of. War, now what about Modern. Muslims Mostlim muslims are. 511 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: Moderate Moderate muslims believe the world is going to submit 512 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: To allah, later maybe in the distant maybe at the 513 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: end of the. World maybe it's even. Figurative and since 514 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: it's so far, off they really don't think about. It 515 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: they just want to live their lives and they're happy 516 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: to have you as a friend or a family. Member 517 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: the Fundamental, muslims they think the world is supposed to 518 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 2: submit all it, now and they're really excited and they 519 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: want to help make it. Happen the dilemma for The 520 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: west is the nicer we show. Ourselves the Fundamental muslims 521 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: view that niceness as, weakness and they take that as 522 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: an invitation to. Attack and so throughout, history whenever The 523 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: west and Non muslim world has won major Battles battle 524 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: Of malta fifteen sixty, Five battle Of leponto fifteen seventy, 525 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: One battle Of vienna sixteen eighty, three whenever The west wins, 526 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: battles The muslims would go back and become moderate for 527 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: a few, generations but then they would begin to do 528 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: probing attacks and if there was no strong, response they 529 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: would all move back into the aggressive. Boat and so throughout. 530 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: History When World War one, ends The muslim world saw 531 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: their autumn empire, gone and so they became. Moderate and 532 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: you had a moderate leader Named Ada turk In, turkey 533 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: and he wanted to secularize his country and he, Says 534 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: mohammedism is nothing more Than arab. Politics you had in 535 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty Five Raisa shaw In, iran and he was 536 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: a moderate. Leader wanted that women get educated and wanted 537 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: them to be able to wear. Fashions and so forth 538 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: you had a moderate leader In afghanistan with the. King 539 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: you Had abdullah In jordan who was, moderate And fasel 540 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: in The, iraq and then you had nineteen twenty, eight 541 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: The muslim brother get started and they would target moderate 542 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: leaders and assassinate them like they Assiated, abdullah and they 543 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: tried assassinating At turk and they did assassinate On War. 544 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: Sadat and so These muslim leaders would be sitting on 545 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: a fence to be More, western but we don't want 546 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: to get. Assassinated then you Know iran is in the. 547 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: News The shaw RAISE A shaw took office in nineteen 548 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: twenty five and he was, moderate but When World war 549 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: two started he did not drive out The, germans and 550 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: So britain and The Soviet union joined together to have 551 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: a coup and get rid of this Tolerant shaw and 552 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: replace him with Mazi. Dec and Maza dec during The Cold, 553 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: war decides to nationalize the oil industry In, iran and 554 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: the problem was in nineteen oh Eight britain And iran 555 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: formed The Anglo Iranian Oil company better known AS. Bp 556 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: and in nineteen fifty three When mazidek nationalizes That britain's 557 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 2: having an oil, shortage and so they appeal To eisenhower 558 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: and HIS cia Director Alan, dalles who sends Over Kermit Roosevelt, 559 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: junior the grandson Of Teddy, roosevelt and he organizes a 560 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: coup and they get rid Of mazedek and replace him 561 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: with The shaw's, Son Raisa. Pallavi and he Loves. America 562 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: he was in there for thirty seven. Years he had 563 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: The catleaxaville being manufactured In. Iran they had the fastest 564 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: growing economy in the. World he dressed in business suits 565 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: and wanted to be But Jimmy. Carter THE bbc actually 566 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: released the correspondence Between Jimmy carter and The Ayah toola 567 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: who was exiled for fifteen years In turkey and In, 568 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: france And Jimmy carter helped usher in The ayatola and 569 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: pressured The shaw to come To, america To california for 570 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: an extended vacation and then abandoned the. Military komani came, 571 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: in took all The iranian generals to the top of 572 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: a high school and executed them and then held THE 573 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 2: us hostages for four or forty four. Dights thank, You Jimmy, Carter. 574 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for one of the great strategic errors of all. 575 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: Time And, bill just to you, know sort of bring 576 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: this up to the. Minute what we have continued to 577 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: see is Unfortunately western leaders repeating some of these mistakes 578 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: by aligning themselves with the jihadis not with those Good 579 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: muslims as we would call. Them certainly they're considered apostates 580 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: by the authorities of the. Faith so it's it's not 581 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: a winning team at the, moment for. Sure we're going 582 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: to talk more about all of this and what it means, 583 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: for for, example the state Of. Texas right after, this 584 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: welcome back to this final installment of today's very very 585 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: helpful history lesson about the nature Of islam from its 586 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: very foundation by the Prophet, mohammad the bizarre story of 587 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: this program as it has, evolved and not least the 588 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: very demonic character of many aspects of WHAT i think is, 589 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: truly at the end of the, day a political and 590 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: indeed totalitarian ideology with a bit of a religious patina on. 591 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: It to be, Sure Bill, federer you've brought us to 592 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: the point where we've Seen american, leaders Notably President Jimmy, 593 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: carter making an epic mistake in thinking that appeasing and 594 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: Empowering sharia's supremacists like The Iotola romani would benefit The 595 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: United states and obviously the people, involved The iranian people 596 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: in that, CASE i think it's fair to say that 597 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: both in that instance and more, generally the practice has 598 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: shown to be a. Disaster where do we find ourselves 599 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: at the, moment as you see, it given all of this, History. 600 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah so drive neutral. Reverse Western europe has gone From 601 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: Judeo christian to secular gay To islamic lo and, behold 602 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 2: the whole transagenda is simply a transition. Phase it's a 603 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: creative way to cut ties with The Judeo christian, past 604 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: but it's quickly taken over by The islamic. Future and 605 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: so the whole idea of, Tolerance we're going to tolerate. 606 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 2: Everybody and so they let In islamists Into europe as. 607 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: Immigrants and where The europeans are having maybe one child per, 608 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: family The muslim man can have four. Wives he tells 609 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: them to go down to the welfare office and say 610 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: The hutsban's not, around and they get welfare, checks and 611 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: he visits the, wives and the more kids they, have 612 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: the larger the welfare check. Scat and he's living like 613 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: a prince with his. Harem and it's a social stigma 614 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: for A muslim moment to have less than five. Kids 615 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 2: and so by twenty fifty there will be a Majority 616 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: muslim population In. Europe they'll just vote in shur real. 617 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: Law and then In, CANADA i was In, Buffalo New, 618 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: york and during The Obama biden, years they brought in 619 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands Of muslims Into, Buffalo New, york and 620 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: they would simply go up to the poor neighborhoods and 621 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 2: walk into a poor person's house and, say we'll pay 622 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: you cash for this, house up entire, neighborhoods and then 623 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: they buy. Churches so The Polish National cathedral In buffalo 624 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: is now a, mosque and all These The Queen mary 625 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 2: of The Rosary church is now a, mosque and so 626 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 2: we see. This in the last two, years seventy mosques 627 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: have opened in The Dallas Fort worth, Area, Texas california 628 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: that those are some of the biggest states For islamic, 629 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: immigration taking advantage of the freedoms to move in and 630 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 2: then want to set up. COMMUNITIES i was actually a 631 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 2: Irving texas and they wanted to build their first mosque 632 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: and the builders said, no they double the. Price the 633 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: builders say, no they triple the. Price the builders, say, 634 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 2: oh we can't say. No you, know it's. Interesting the 635 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 2: first mosque In america was In. Detroit it Was Henry 636 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: ford who was bothered by, unions and he's traveling the 637 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: world looking for another source of. Rubber and he's over 638 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 2: in The Middle east and A yemeny person puts his 639 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 2: luggage on the boat and he, says you're doing a 640 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 2: good job if you show up In, Detroit i'll pay 641 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: you five dollars a day word. Spreads and you have 642 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: this Large islamic immigration Into detroit and the first generation of, 643 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: them they're hard workers and their unions are not, joining 644 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: but their younger generation is now becoming. Radicalized and then 645 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 2: they're beginning to follow that model and build mocks all 646 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: around the country and with population With, Obama Keith ellison 647 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: And minnesota bringing in large numbers of, them and to. 648 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: And then let me just ask a clarification, bill because 649 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: you said these young people are being, Radicalized is it 650 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: not actually the case that they're simply embracing the authentic 651 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: traditions Of mohammad and Of. Sharia and, yes it's a radical, 652 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: program there's no question about. That it's a WELL i 653 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: call it a demonic program for that, matter toxic certainly 654 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: at a constitutional. Program but it isn't correct to, suggest 655 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: is it that it's somehow different From. Islam it's the 656 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: core practice of the. Faith is it not? 657 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: Right? Now do you want to mention sir of five 658 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: point seventy, two which, says if you believe That jesus 659 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: is The, messiah you are going to, hell so you 660 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: cannot be any more Anti christ than by saying if 661 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: you believe In, christ you go To. Hell so if 662 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 2: there ever was a religion Of, antichrist it fits the. 663 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 2: Bill so when you look at this immigration and, nature 664 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: you have domestic species and invasive, species And christianity is 665 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 2: more of a domestic. Species love your, enemies bless them 666 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 2: that curse, you And islam is more. Invasive it comes 667 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 2: in taking advantage of the, tolerance but then it eventually 668 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: crowds out the previous. Inhabitants so When, islam they have 669 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: a concept when your enemy is, strong when your enemy is, 670 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: weak attack there weren't For hudna means you make a 671 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 2: treaty until you're strong enough to break. It and so 672 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 2: When World war And. 673 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: Bill there, IS i think it's correct to say that 674 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: there is in the pantheon of enemies none that are 675 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: more derided and contemptuously dealt with By. Muslims then those 676 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: that are powerful and yet behave in a weak. Manner 677 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: is that? Right? 678 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah and then there's the Red green alliance that you 679 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: teach on so well that the globalists are happy to 680 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: work together with The muslims to Destabilize western civilization so 681 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 2: that they can set up their One world. Government but, 682 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: yeah After World War, one when The Ottoman empire, fell 683 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 2: you Had muslim leaders wanted to be. Moderate but then 684 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 2: you Had eisenhower pressuring The jews to give up The 685 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: Sinai peninsula after they had taken it in the nineteen. 686 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: Fifties and then you Had. REAGAN i loved, him but 687 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: when he when The muslims blew up THE Us marine 688 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 2: barracks And lebanon in nineteen eighty three and killed two 689 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: hundred and FOUR Us, marines his response was to. Leave 690 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: and then you Had Jimmy carter abandoning THE Shaw and 691 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: then during The Soviet Afghan, war you had OUR us 692 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: arming and training The taliban to fight this, soap and then. 693 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: We moved, Out Dan, bill we are out of. Time 694 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: there's so much more to, cover and so much more 695 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: that we want to plum with, you AND i so 696 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Today come back soon with much more 697 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 1: if you. Would thanks to all of you for joining 698 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: us as. WELL i hope you'll do so again next. 699 00:47:52,800 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: Time until, then go forth and multiply apat