1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: China says it will hit back at nations with COVID 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: restrictions on its travelers. UM. Let us dig a little 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: bit deeper here, joining us live as Bloomberg's Beijing bureau 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: editor Philip Glaman. Thank you, Philip for making time with us. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: I appreciated. What I'm seeing is that Beijang is saying 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: that the restrictions, uh, of which are coming from a 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of places now, are not based on science. Is 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: that it yeah, good morning from Beijing. UM. That's about 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the size of it. UM. The virus has been a 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: political issue in China from the very beginning UM, and 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: of course Jan being made um stamping out COVID nineteen 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: priority and a signature policy of his over the past 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: few years. So so these countries putting up um, you know, 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: restrictions as China sees them, is is is really irking 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: the Chinese government. They've stepped up their their propaganda and 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: they're complaining over the past few days UM about this 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: and so far that's that's kind of uh, you know 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: where we're at. They haven't really laid out any sort 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: of specific um uh countermeasures that they're going to take, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: or any sort of or even named any of the 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: countries that they're especially annoyed with. I was gonna I 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: was gonna ask that what form of retribution could it take? 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what what what could they do at this point? 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: Travelers in they don't want that. I mean, they could 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: reach the potential in Beijing of digging a deeper hole, 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: couldn't they. Yeah, this is one of those disputes that 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: right now you might think could escalate. Um, it probably won't. Um. 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: China's is very clever about these things. That has a 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: way of of ramping up the rhetoric and then um, 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: in a few days time or in a you know, 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: some sometime down the road, this this could all just 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: sort of go away. Um. It could you know, require 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: tests to enter China and some countries, um, things like that. 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: But it doesn't really seem like something that would get 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: that China let get too far out of control. Yeah. Meanwhile, 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the US says there's there's no need for it, says 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: protecting its citizens and that it is a smart science. Um. Meanwhile, 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: we're running a story on Bloomberg today that the current 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: COVID surgeon Shanghai is is again putting major stresses on crematoriums. 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: What do we know. Yeah, so crematoriums and emergency rooms, UM, 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: the ones that we visited in the videos that we 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: see on social media, they've been pretty busy. UM. And 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: so what it looks like um, and we have to 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: guess because the Chinese government doesn't put out data anymore 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: on the number of people who are sick or dying 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: of COVID and so it does look like UM as 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: you might expect with with Oh Macron, that elderly people 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: and people with underlying health conditions are passing away. UM. 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: And so we've seen crematoriums get busy. We've seen people 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: have We've we've talked to people who have said that 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: they have had, you know, difficulty getting a loved one 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: who passed away from their house to the crematorium because 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: the crematoriums are busy. So one person said that a 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: body had to wait in their home for five days. UM. 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a struggle that UM 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: China is dealing with right now. It's it's tricky to 57 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: get the full picture of it because UM, the government 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: is in you know, they when when we visit crematoriums 59 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: or we ask for this data, you know, they don't. 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: They don't provide the data, and they're telling us to 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: leave the crematoriums or funeral homes or what have you. 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: So it's really tough to get a clear picture, but 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: so far that's what we're seeing. Alright, A lot of 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: legs on on this. Going forward to Philip, thank you 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: so much for your time. We really appreciated. Beijing bureau 66 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: editor for Bloomberg, Philip Glaman