WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Devil’s Men 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:08.800 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.440 Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.600 And this is Joe McCormick. And today's movie on Weird 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.599 House is the nineteen seventy six Greek or greek Ish 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:28.120 horror film The Devil's Men, also known as Land of 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.920 the Minotaur. And I'm going to say right at the top, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.520 this is definitely not one of the best or most 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.239 riveting films we have watched for Weird House Cinema, though 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.199 I think it will still make for a fun episode. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.880 I almost feel like we were kind of tricked into 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.239 it because there are a lot of names here that 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.599 really want to invite you into the labyrinth. It stars 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.400 Donald Pleasance and Peter Cushing. It's also got Luwan Peters 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.840 and a score by Brian Eno. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:55.720 I think that was the kicker, that was the what 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.000 really drew us in. We're like, oh, oh, Brian Eno 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.279 scored this film. Well, of course we want to take 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.480 a closer look as we'll discuss it's I mean, this 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.520 is exceedingly noteworthy, and ultimately I think this is the 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.920 factor that makes this such an interesting hidden gym there 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.560 are a few other production notes that I think make 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.080 it stand out. Again, you mentioned it is a Greek 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.760 or a greek Ish horror film. It was a Greek 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.360 American co production essentially, and we'll get into some of 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.000 those details. But yeah, it has two big stars, it 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:34.520 has this fabulous score, and unfortunately it doesn't necessarily have 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.360 a lot else to recommend it, but it's still going 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:39.320 to be fun to talk about. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.560 The score is really good. I feel like it is 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.360 deserving of a much better movie. It's a modest score, Like, 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.320 there's not a whole lot of it in the film. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.880 There are like I think maybe like two or three 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.880 main musical motifs that are used multiple times throughout the movie, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.960 but they're good and they're deserving of a more thought 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.440 full set of images to accompany the sounds. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.960 Yeah, my only critique on the score is that I 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.240 wish there was more of it, because there are plenty 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.520 of scenes where there's no Brian eno. And then also 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.680 I wish it was louder because it is it's so 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.400 subtle that it also actually, at least in my viewing, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.919 and who knows, you know, stereo settings and so forth. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.640 I felt like the score wasn't loud enough. The score 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:21.800 could have been a little louder. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.400 I agree, and that a lot of the scenes with 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.960 music were just using the same music over and over. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.040 But did you notice the script had a similar quality. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.960 There's a very copy paste quality to Land of the Minotaur, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.160 where characters would have whole scenes where they were only 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.520 saying lines that they had already said in earlier scenes. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.600 Yeah, this is not a film where anybody gets any 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:50.359 good lines. Nobody, whether you're the star top Build, Donald Pleasants, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.040 whether you're the evil cult leader Peter Cushing, even if 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:59.240 you're one of the various other smaller players in the picture, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.600 you don't really to get any cool lines. Nobody has 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.919 anything really cool to say in this movie. Most people 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.440 don't really have anything cool to do in this movie. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.600 Rob, I'm gonna have to disagree with you about the lines, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.040 because you were forgetting the part where the character Milo 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.280 says where the devil did the whole village get to? 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.880 And Donald Pleasant answers him You've answered your own question 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.000 to the devil. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.320 Yeah, I guess we should hit on. An important fact 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.360 concerning this movie at this point is that it is 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:33.079 essentially a Satanic cult movie of the nineteen seventies, except 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.440 instead of it being outright Satan, there's like some slap 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.720 dash minotaur cult stuff added in instead. But they don't 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.880 even really commit to that, Like they don't even go 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.560 all in on some sort of like ancient religion or 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.040 mythology of crete or some sort of imagined minotar religion. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.800 Like at one point Donald Pleasant is like, ah, Satan Minotar. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.440 It's all the same. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.480 It's all all the same stuff, same thing. There's a 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.000 whole speech about it. Is like the Force with a 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.880 thousand faces and no face at all. It's been around 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.800 since before humankind. Some have called it Mephistopheles, the Devil, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.120 the Mino Taar. It's all the same. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.720 Yeah. So just one of the many ways in which 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.520 this film, you know, is competent and has a lot 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.960 of talented people in it and people doing a very 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:28.599 professional job, but it doesn't go for it in any 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.760 of the ways that you might expect one of these 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.080 other films to do, both in a positive way in 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.240 a negative way, Like it doesn't even really go for 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.560 any of the really exploitive stuff you might expect. I mean, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.480 the worst we get is like maybe a little bit 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.880 of blood and then it looks pretty good. We get 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:48.120 some you know, some basic seventies sexism, but that's about it. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.320 It's not really an exploitation film at all. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.720 No, there are scenes where characters just stand around and 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.920 take phone calls naked for no reason. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.200 Yes, yeah, and they are very naked in those scenes, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.800 and I guess the actors involved can be commended for that. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.479 But that's about the extent now. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.480 I think, as is often the case with lackluster films, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.839 a lot of the blame here goes to the script. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.480 It's just like, not the most engaging story of all time. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.679 But on the other side, like what is working pretty 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.760 well here? It does have a pretty good cast, though 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.440 most of them are not giving I think, the best 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.520 performances of their careers. It does have that nice Brian 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.760 Nino score, and we'll talk more about that as we 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.320 go on. It also has some really good locations, like 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.680 a lot of the outdoor shots and the stuff in 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.000 the caves and all that. I'm like, oh wow, okay, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.080 so like they you know, they got permits, I guess, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:45.040 to shoot in some very pleasant and interesting looking scenery. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.520 Yes, solid cave locations, some very gorgeous scenes of the 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.920 Greek countryside. And also I thought they have a pretty 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.960 nice like cult layer set that they built some sort 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.839 of like, you know, sort of gothic dungeon cult kind 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.640 of a set that that's pretty good. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.080 Now, may we compare and contrast with the other cult 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.280 of Human sacrifice movies that we featured on the show, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.440 And I guess in order to do that we need 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.000 to remember what all of those are. There is, of course, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.719 The Devil Rides Out from nineteen sixty eight. That is 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.400 the one that is based on the novel by Dennis Wheatly. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.280 Is that his name correct? Yeah? And I think one 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.360 of the things about The Devil Rides Out, because it's 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.479 based on that Wheatly novel, is that it aspires to 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.880 a sort of and we discussed this in that in 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.359 Our Weird House on this it aspires to a sort 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:37.520 of almost documentary feel like Wheatley and or this movie 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.680 is trying to warn you about the real threat of 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.240 the cult, and this movie is just making it all up. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.680 I mean, they're both, yes, But in The Devil Rides 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.440 Out there, I don't know, there are more interesting dynamics 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.280 about good and evil and all that in this one. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.120 It's just kind of like the moral of the story 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.200 is that, well, there is a devil, and the devil's 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.320 real and you got to defeat him. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.039 Oh yeah, there are all sorts of interesting rules that 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:10.000 are employed in the Devil rides out, like magic has 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.640 has rules and laws to it, and there are all 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.760 these different examples that were that weakly clearly took out 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.320 of like old witchcraft, grimours and so forth. And again 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.880 you just don't have that in this movie. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.560 Oh there's another interesting thing, and the Devil rides out 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:28.040 about how some people have the power, have the fortitude 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.640 to explore the occult without being seduced and destroyed by it, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.840 and others don't. If they start learning about the occult, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.760 it's just going to suck him in and they will 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.360 be overpowered. Like Christopher Lee, he can read all the 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.160 occult tons, but simon, you better not read them. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.400 Yes, well, there is one classification of human that is 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.600 safe in this movie, as we find out, it is 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.440 of course the children. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.920 So the children here can read the occult tomes unharmed. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.680 But if you're Peter Cushing and you read them, you 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.200 will not only end up leading a minotar cult, you 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.640 will literally explode at the end of the film. That 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.600 brings me to the second point of comparison. Another movie 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.360 we've talked about on Weird House is The Devil's Rain 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.400 from nineteen seventy five, which is only one year before 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.120 this movie came out. I can't help but notice that 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.360 comparison and the similarity with the titles. So this is 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.239 The Devil's Men, also known as Land of the Minotaur. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.560 I don't remember which titles for what region, but somewhere 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.560 it was called The Devil's Men. That was The Devil's Rain. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.440 Both are about a cult doing human sacrifice in a rocky, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.280 arid landscape. And so I wonder if The Devil's Men 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.560 was trying to use a similar title and a somewhat 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.199 similar ending to kind of steal some of that melt 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.040 juice from the Ernest Borg nine hit. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.600 Probably so yeah, because The Devil's Men is the US 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.640 released title which came after The Minotaur or Mino tar 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.800 Oh release of the UK, is. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.360 That it I thought it was the other one around. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.080 I thought it was The Devil's Men in the UK 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.599 and Land of the Menotaur in the US. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.760 Hmmm, you could be right. Now, now you have me 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.880 flipped I'm Lost in the Labyrinth. Now it's one of 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:10.439 the two. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.760 Now those are the two main satanic cult movies we've 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.240 covered that I can think of others. Oh well, treasurer 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.920 of the Four Crowns had a cult. I don't know 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.880 if that was satanic. It was instead based around that guy. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.199 What was his name, like, like Johnny the cult leader. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:27.040 He had a name. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.439 Yeah, I don't even remember the name of that guy. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.760 I can picture him though. This is an interesting dynamic 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.760 to point out because I think the Devil Rides out 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.480 in The Devil's Reign are both a lot more entertaining 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:43.160 compared to The Devil's Men. Yeah, and I think those 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:48.120 are ultimately perhaps better movies. You know, this is all subjective. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.240 I would say Treasure of the Four Crowns is definitely 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.440 a worse movie than The Devil's Men, but it is 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.280 more fun to watch because it is so stupid and 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.880 the Devil's Men it's like on one one it's not 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.839 you know, it kind of falls into that sort of 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.200 lukewarm category in some ways because it's not it's not 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.959 bad enough or stupid enough. It doesn't have wonky enough 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.160 performances to really make it fall into that, you know, 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.440 cheesy movie territory, but it doesn't again, just doesn't really 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.240 go for it in so many other areas. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.120 It doesn't have the wall to wall mad cap three 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.400 D effects of Treasure of the Four Crowns. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.640 Oh yeah, imagine if this said three D would have 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.520 worked in a few scenes. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.320 Oh yeah, yeah, I wonder if I can know which 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.960 ones your thinking of three D nostrils blasting fire in 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:36.400 your face? 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.439 Oh yeah. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.600 Now beyond that, did the Blind Dead movie we did 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.360 have a cult? I don't remember if that had a 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:43.160 blood cult or not. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.160 Well, the Templars are depicted as a blood cult in that, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.040 and of course the whole setup is they were a 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.079 blood cult, then they're all dead, and then like the 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:58.000 lone troublesome occultist in town helps them return from the dead. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.720 Way we talked about return to the Blind Dead. So 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.959 I can't really speak to Tomb of the Blind Dead 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.840 the first one because I haven't seen it forever. But yeah, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.320 similar stuff going on. But I think even more key 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.920 is that while this movie is filmed in Greece, it 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.280 still has a similar feel compared to the Blind Dead movies. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.400 You know, dry, dusty walls and ruins used as a 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.520 backdrop for some sort of in a cult story. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.640 Now there's one thing I think some of the better 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.160 satanic cult movies do that most of the movies we've 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.920 talked about don't really do. I guess the Devil rides 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.319 Out sort of did is show the advantages one gets 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.080 from worshiping the devil. So that's, you know, classically there 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.200 in like Rosemary's Baby, it's like, you know, you make 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.959 a pact with the devil. Oh, hey, suddenly I'm financially 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.000 doing better and I'm getting a part in this play 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.720 and all the you know, the devil is in exchange 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.920 for your worship and the evil deeds you do in 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.960 his service, he sort of does favors for you. He 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.120 does some magic to help you along with to attain 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.920 your goals. A lot of these movies don't even have that, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.800 so you're kind of left wondering, like, what's in it 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.640 for the cultists? Why are they worshiping a minotaur or 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.880 a devil? I don't even see that they're getting anything 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:05.280 out of this. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.280 Yeah, I mean, I guess sometimes it's in the performance, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.800 like you know, borgnine looks like he's having a good time, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.880 and of course that when to be fair, there is 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.080 the whole plot line that's established that they have been 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.520 alive for over one hundred years because maybe centuries I 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.440 don't recall, but they have vastly extended their lives because 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.640 of their pact with the devil. In this, I guess 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.000 we sort of assume wealth has something to do with it, 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.839 but otherwise we don't see any real results. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.080 I don't know, a lot of these cultists don't seem 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.880 all that wealthy, Like Peter Cushing's character is wealthy, but 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.480 most of them are like, oh the town, the innkeeper 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.960 and the guy who works in the grocery store, they're 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.280 in the cult. What are they are they doing all 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:47.760 that hot? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.480 I guess it's a pyramid scheme, you know, That's all 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:51.920 it is. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.200 Gotten the cult too late. They're trying to get some 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.839 more recruits into their downline. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:56.520 Mm hm. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.400 Can you imagine the pyramid scheme pitch? But it's in 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.520 the minotaur voice from the movie, like the statues talking 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:08.720 saying bring me three to five of your Facebook friends. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.720 Yeah, I can very well imagine that. In the accoumpning 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.480 booklet for the Blu Ray that we'll mention here in 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.120 a minute, Andrew Graves mentions some other influences. He mentions 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.400 the Devil rides Out, He mentions the Devils. Also mentions 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.160 the Wickerman from seventy three, which I thought is another 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.559 great comparison, because the wicker Man, of course, is like 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:34.080 the English folk carror film, you know, par excellence. You know, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.839 it's the one that you think of when you think 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.800 of like the lineage of British folk car and this 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.800 movie kind of aspires to a kind of Greek folk 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.720 car but again doesn't really go for it, you know, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.600 doesn't really give us something that we can latch onto here. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.400 Well, yeah, again, because it has so little interaction with 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.560 any actual Greek mythology or any of the particulars or 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.760 the feel of the minotaur itself. As we said, it 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.440 is just sort of like, oh the minotaur, that's just 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.760 another kind of devil. That's you know, there's a devil 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.800 in one of his forms is it's a bullhead horns, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.280 and there's not much else to it. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:15.320 Yeah, So a lot of missed opportunities here with this film, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.120 but there's there's still some fun stuff to talk about here. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.040 My elevator pitch, I don't have a great one here, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.560 but I just went with ambient six sixty six. Music 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:24.960 for satanic minotar cults. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.440 Yeah, music for blood gutters. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.320 Yeah. The actual tagline, or one of the taglines for 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:37.240 the film I thought was extremely deceptive. Half man, half 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.960 beast trapped in a world forgotten by time. Huh. Great, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.000 not this movie, but it sounds great. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.320 I feel like it would be equally appropriate if that 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.640 were the tagline for Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.400 Yeah, all right, let's go ahead and listen to the 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.080 trailer audio. It is a pretty fun trailer. I don't 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.960 actually recommend watching the trailer if you intend to see 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.120 the film in full, because it does that thing where 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.520 they take whatever action they can find in this movie 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.040 and they cobble all of it together into this trailer, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.720 like you see stuff from the finale in there as well. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.920 But still it's a fun one. So let's have a listen. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:26.880 Madden, come with us. If you dare on a terrifying 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.680 journey through cells of madness, haunts of horror and fear, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.800 Come with us to this forsaken monument of crumbling stones, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.640 which echoes the desolate cries of the Descend with us 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.640 to the forbidden chambers of the ancient pagan gods of wrath, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.720 where the Devil's Men perform the secret ritless of the 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:58.920 Land of the Mento. Those who enter the forbidden chamber 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:10.080 of the Minotaur must die. The Land of the Minotaur. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.720 Donald bless us as the man of God who defies 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.280 the dark and sinister powers that curse this land and 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:28.960 all who venture into it. The Devil has many faces, 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:30.720 and many helpless too. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:31.800 Come out of. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.520 Peter Cushing as the red Prince of Evil who lures 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.000 young lovers into the deadly embrace of the Devil's Men. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:50.280 The old customs remain, and the ancient gods live off. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:17:28.639 The bullets cannot stop them, No really power can stop them. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:33.080 The Land of a Minotaur the most terrifying film of 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:39.160 nineteen seventy seven. Coming to this theater soon. Don't miss it. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.119 All right. I want to take issue with this trailer's 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:50.359 claim that this is quote the most terrifying film of 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.280 nineteen seventy seven. Note that it was released in the 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.359 UK and Greece in seventy six, and then in the 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.840 US and seventy seven, Because if this state were true 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.639 at all, it would mean that The Devil's Men is 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:10.199 more terrifying than such films as Alukarda, Blue Sunshine, The Deep, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.560 Demon Seed, Eraser head House, The Incredible Melting Man, The 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:21.359 Island of Doctor Moreau, Cronenberg's Rabid Rituals, Rolling Thunder, The Sentinel, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:29.560 Mario Baba's Shock, Shock Waves, Sorcerer, and Suspiria. Wow. So granted, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.480 it's you know, pure marketing. Everything's fair in marketing. If 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:33.840 no one else is going to say you have the 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.280 most terrifying film with seventy seven, you might as well 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.440 say it. But I don't think a strong case can 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.000 be made for The Devil's Men over these films. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.800 Now when it comes to ways of watching The Devil's 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.359 Men or the Land of the Minotaur. This is actually 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.520 a movie I became aware of a while back. It 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.960 might have been when we did our core episodes on 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:58.880 the Minotaur myth, I'm not sure. Sometime in the past 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.280 few years I found out about this and the streaming 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.560 version I found of it online. At the time, I 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.480 wanted to watch, but the quality was like so bad 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:12.200 it looked unwatchable. But there's actually a very nice blu 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.960 ray or DVD whichever it is that we watched it. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.800 But I guess it was a Blu ray and it 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:17.480 looked really good. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.200 Yeah, this is a terrific Blu ray release from Indicator. 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.119 I don't think they put out a lot of copies 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.159 of this is one of these, like limited to however 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.959 many thousand in the US, but it, you know, reasonably priced. 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.400 Includes a new two K restoration from the original negative, 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.160 two different cuts of the film, lots of other extras, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.719 so you know, whatever faults you might have with the 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.280 movie itself, like this is a This is a great 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.119 presentation of it and has some great background. There's some 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.800 commentary tracks, so I highly recommend it if you if 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.280 you are inclined to view the movie. We're going to 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.840 pass our copy of it onto Videodrome here in Atlanta 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.800 after we're done with it, so you might be able 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.760 to rent it from them if you happen to be local. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.800 All right, let's get into the people involved in this movie. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.639 And I'm gonna go ahead and apologize at the top here. 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.600 We're dealing with some Greek names here, and it's entirely possible, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.960 if not likely, that I'm going to mispronounce something. The 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:26.760 director is Costas Karagaianis, who lived nineteen thirty two through 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:31.560 nineteen ninety three, a very established Greek director of various genres, 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.680 but this was his first and only horror film. He'd 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.560 done some thrillers, it looks like. But in some of 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.320 the commentary I've read, a lot of people touch on 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.399 this that this is the only time he dipped his 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:49.159 toes in horror, and perhaps it shows in his unwillingness 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.719 or I don't know, just inability. I don't know how 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.199 you want to look at it, but the fact that 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.920 it doesn't really go after those horror moments the way 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.760 that other horror films would have. So, you know, because 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.840 while he draws on a lot on various setenic called 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.159 horror films, the horror, the tear, the suspense elements in 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.800 this film often feel a little bit blunted. We get 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.640 some great ambiance in places, and certainly with the aid 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.679 of ENO's score, we get a strong dreamlike flavor to 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.520 various scenes, but I feel like these scenes are often lacking, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.760 again in that special something to push them over the 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.600 top and make them actually memorable. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.280 Yeah, I agree, I think I mean, for one thing, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.840 I think we have something of a problem that, like 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.639 the the main monster in this film is actually just 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.560 a statue, and it's not that scary looking of a statue. 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.240 It's sort of more on the funny looking side. And 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:45.920 so that's the main monster. And then we've got some 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.560 cult members who where you know, anytime you put somebody 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.560 in creepy cult robes with hoods, that looks creepy, but 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.080 they're they're still not really used much. I mean, they're 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.679 like some scenes where they they like peek in a 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.520 window to scare some but then they like pull their 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.400 head back out of the window when the person sees them, 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:05.479 and it just looks funny. 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:07.840 Yeah, I mean yeah, because there are shots where the 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.720 cult members are scary and you see those eyes behind 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.760 the mask and all, but yeah, other times not so much. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.400 Sometimes they're bulletproof, and that's never explained either. 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.160 Dumble Pleasance makes reference to that almost as if it's 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.520 like a known thing about cult members. He's like, they 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.840 can't be destroyed by At one point, I think he says, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.600 the force of an automobile is not enough to destroy 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.880 them because they hit a cult member with the car. 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:32.600 But he's fine. 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.399 I guess that's the this is the benefit. This is 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:40.680 the fringe benefit for worshiping the Minota. Now Cagan is here. 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.560 His other big films for the Greek market included nineteen 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:48.760 seventy three's Tango of Perversion, nineteen seventy four's Death Kiss, 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:53.119 in nineteen seventy seven's Dangerous Cargo. Again, this was partially 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.639 a Greek production, but you had outside money coming in. 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.399 Interestingly enough, I think some Getty money was involved in 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.159 funding this particular picture. 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:03.320 Huh. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.280 They were involved in the film production for a while there. Huh. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.280 All right. The rider here is Arthur Rowe, who lived 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.080 nineteen twenty three through nineteen ninety eight, an American rider 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.280 with TV writing credits going back into the early nineteen fifties, 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.800 eventually including episodes of such shows as Kuljak, The Knight Stalker, 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.560 The Bionic Woman, and Fantasy Island. Those last two he 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.480 was also a producer on those. He wrote three other 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.040 screenplays that made it to that made it to film. 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.280 Those include nineteen seventy one Zeppelin, nineteen seventy two's The 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:36.920 Magnificent Seven Ride. I assume it's a sequel. It sounds 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.639 like it's an actual ride though, but you know, like 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.680 you were with the ride at Universal Studios. Yeah, yeah, 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.359 but it's it's a movie. I don't know anything about it. Also, 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.359 in nineteen seventy six Coljack TV movie Demon and the Mummy. 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:55.480 Was there supernatural stuff in Coljak Yeah? Yeah, Oh okay, 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:56.160 I didn't know that. 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.320 Yeah. Yeah, that was a fun show back back back 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:00.960 in the day. I I mean, I didn't watch it 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.359 back in the day, but I watched it at some point, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.200 like on sci Fi Channel in nineties. 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.840 Oh okay, I've never seen it. I assumed it was 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.560 an earthy, realistic cop thriller. 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.600 Yeah what Darren McGavin, I believe played the lead in that. 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.800 All right, let's get down into the cast of this film, though, 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.119 top billing goes to Donald Pleasants, who plays Father Roach 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:27.200 in this lived nineteen nineteen through nineteen ninety five. This 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.879 is our first Donald Pleasants film, famous British actor of stage, 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.680 screen and TV. He was reportedly offered the villain role 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.679 for this picture but said nope, he would only do 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.399 it if you got to play the hero, as he 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.760 was a bit burnout. I'm playing the villains at the time, 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.040 because of course he's a member of the Bond Villain Club. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.640 Having played the Bond villain Blowfield in nineteen sixty seven's 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.560 You Only Live Twice. 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.120 It's blow Fell, Drob. I know you're not a Bond fan, 0:24:54.280 --> 0:25:00.800 but it's Blowfeld. He Blowfel, not Blowfield. Blowfeld hu Bofield. 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.560 Sounds like more of an actual name. I don't know. 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:10.280 Blowfeld is Springfield exactly. He has a secret volcano layer 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.280 and you Only Live twice. And you only live twice 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.160 is the one where Blowfeld feeds his victims to piranhas. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.800 So he has like a bridge leading to his office, 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.040 and when you're walking over the bridge, if he's unhappy 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.760 with you, he presses a button, the bridge collapses and 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.080 you fall into the Piranha pit. 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:30.520 Hmm. I remember enjoying this one as a child, watching 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.199 it on Turner channels and stuff. I think there's what 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.800 a airplane that folds into a suitcase. There are ninjas, 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.520 and then there's a lot of a lot of racial 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.160 stuff that probably hasn't aged well. 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.359 Yeah, there is a really unfortunate whole sequence where they 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:49.720 attempt to turn James Bond Japanese and yeah, it's it's weird, 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.640 but the villain stuff in it is pretty good. 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.359 Now I think you can see the impact of that 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.320 role on subsequent Donald Pleasant's villain rolls. You know that 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:04.080 sort of detched, gray eyed mastermind sort of performance, which, 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.159 again Pleasants is a solid professional, So it's solid stuff 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:12.840 even in some really lackluster films. But the thing about 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.680 Pleasance is he did a lot more than just those 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.159 villain roles. We see in this film, a kind of 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.560 hint of what was to come with his Doctor Loomis 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.760 performance in the Halloween franchise. He had a memorable role 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.280 in the Great Escape from nineteen sixty three, which was 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.560 itself quite fitting because Donald Pleasant served in the RAF 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.320 during World War II, was captured and imprisoned in a 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:34.680 German prisoner of war camp. 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:35.800 Oh I didn't know that. 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.359 Yeah. So he has a pretty interesting filmography, but just 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:44.080 considering horror and sci fi, his credits include a nineteen 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:48.120 fifty six TV adaptation of nineteen eighty four nineteen sixties 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.720 The Flesh and the Fimes with Peter Cushing, Circus of Horrors, 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.560 and the Hands of Orlock in nineteen sixty nineteen sixty 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.479 six is Fantastic Voyage, THHX eleven thirty eight and nineteen 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.160 seventy one one Tales that witness Madness in seventy three, 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.760 From Beyond the Grave and Mutations in seventy four, an 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.159 adaptation of Dracula in seventy nine, The Puma Man in 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:15.200 nineteen eighty Puma Man. Puma Man is a great example 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.320 of him being asked to do the Bond villain thing 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.720 in a movie that is clearly not the best. 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.440 I'm trying to remember whether the villain role I'm thinking 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.800 of him in is the one from Puma Man or 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.719 the one from Warrior of the Lost World. 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.919 That's right, because that's another one where he does the 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.639 same thing, is asked to do the same That's eighty 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.480 three Sandwich. In between these two, You've got to Escape 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.480 from New York. In eighty one, that's a rather different 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:39.160 role for him. 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.760 He plays the President of the United States of America. 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.920 I remember reading about him talking about that role where 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.000 he's like, yeah, Carpenter asked me to play this role, 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.320 and so I had to work out why a British 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.719 person would become President of the United States and had 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:59.280 all this background material, and then he asked if Carpenter 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.040 wanted to read it, and Carpenter is like, now, I'm good, 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.080 but I like that commitment. The professionalism. 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.760 You know, the part when he's getting into the egg 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.000 shaped escape pod from Air Force one and he says like, man, 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.720 God being with you all. 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.159 It's a I mean, it's a pretty good performance in 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.000 Escape from New York. You know he especially later on 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.280 in the film where he's he's a little it's more 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:24.720 of a raw performance, you know. 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.080 Yeah. 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.679 Other filmsles see eighty twos Alone in the Dark Phenomena 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.960 in nineteen eighty five. This is the Dario Argento film, right. 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.000 That's right with him and Jennifer Connelly and one of 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.600 the craziest giallo plots of all time. 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.440 Let's see To Kill a Stranger in eighty six, Warrior 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.280 Queen in eighty seven, Specters and Prince of Darkness in 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.200 eighty seven. And in nineteen eighty eight, he's in that 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.600 nos Faratu in Venice movie. This is the one where 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.680 Klaskinski was asked to reprise his role as nos Faratu, 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.120 asked to shave his head and report to set, and 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.080 he was like, I'm not shaved my head this time. 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.640 And obviously there were a lot of problems with that movie, 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.480 but not pleasants. You can count unpleasants. He's a rock. 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.000 You know, if we ever wanted to do a John 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.920 Carpenter movie, I feel like we could do Prints of Darkness. 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.600 Yeah, I think that one would be a good selection. Yeah, 0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.960 let's put a pin in that one. Consider coming back 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.840 to it. Great cast, weird film. Yeah, now real quick. 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.600 A few other things on Pleasants. I'm not going to 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.880 touch on everything he was in because again, all sorts 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.440 of different genres, but I will say he has a 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.560 very fun and very spirited role as a blue collar 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:41.280 police inspector in nineteen seventy two's Deathline. That it's one 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.800 of those terrific performances that completely elevates a film and 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.920 also is very much against type, at least for what 0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.640 many of us might expect of Donald pleasants. If you're 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.320 a pleasance fan, check that one out. It's a lot 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.000 of fun. I've also heard great things about his performance 0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.280 in the nineteen seventy one Australian new wave thriller Wake 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.320 and Fright from seventy one. A lot of people hold 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.880 that up is kind of an excellent buried gem. 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:07.040 Oh never heard of it? 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.480 Yeah. 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.680 Another thing, did you mention that he appears not only 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.680 in the first Halloween movie but in many Halloween sequels, 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.120 including sequels after he was killed in the previous film. 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.600 Oh no, no, I'm not as familiar with the various 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.960 Halloween sequels past two. I think. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.320 Okay, so you remember at the end of Halloween two, 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.280 he's definitely dead, right, just explodes, huge ball of fire. 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:31.680 He's dead. Yeah. 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.800 Part three, no doll. Pleasants, totally story, we know. 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:36.960 I kind of forget that it's part of the Halloween 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.520 franchise because it's Yeah, obviously I'm familiar with three. 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:44.160 Right, Four he's just back. He's back, just some I think, 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.560 some scars on his face, and then I don't remember 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.160 what happens to him at the end of four, but 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.360 he's back again in five. 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.480 Oh wow. Also, just real quick, I'll note that he 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.360 also did a lot of TV. He was on the 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.360 original Twilight Zone, the original Outer Limits, and then much 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.560 later at the Bradbury Theater. Pretty good, pretty good. I 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.680 believe four of his daughters went into acting as well, 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.840 with the most notable being Angela Pleasants, who did quite 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.280 well for herself on stage, screen and TV. She's been 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:12.440 in a load of things. 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.880 One last thing you didn't mention, Donald Pleasance was the 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.520 spirit of dark and lonely water. 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:23.560 Yes, of course this was a like a public service 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.760 TV bit right that was warning children to stay away 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.160 from the dark and lonely water, stay away from those 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:35.120 green pools, lest dark fate fall upon you. 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.040 I think we talked about this in our episodes on 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:39.240 Jinny Green Teeth. 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.080 But yes, yeah, stuff to blow your mind. 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.720 Episode Yeah, narrated by Donald Pleasance. 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:48.680 All right, again, Peter Cushing is in this playing Barren CHLOROPHYX. 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.920 We're not gonna spend a lot of time talking about 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.080 Cushing here in this part because we've covered Cushing before. 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.200 He lived nineteen thirteen through nineteen ninety four, kind of 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.800 a weird, weird house cinema standard at this point. I 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.160 think the first time we discussed him was in our 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.720 episode on shock Waves, which came out the same year 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.840 as this. You know, this is what can you say? 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.680 This is Hammer's Doctor Frankenstein, this is Star Wars's Grand 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.920 Moth Tarkan. So he's always solid, whether he's playing a 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:20.120 villain or a hero. Though this is, as Graves points 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.040 out in the material on the Blu Ray later day Cushing, 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.920 during which he's generally more memorable and smaller, more intense 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.280 roles rather than bigger villain roles or you know, more 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.440 pronounced roles like this. 0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:36.080 I want to say he seemed especially angular in this film. 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.840 Like Cushing always has a striking face with very sharp features, 0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:44.040 but in this movie, it's just ridiculous his head. I 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.880 was trying to think what it reminded me of, and 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.360 I realized he looks like a Boss from the original 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:54.560 Star Fox video game, where it's just polygons, the angles, 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.160 the corners. It's crazy. 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.640 Yeah, I can see the comparison. It is a very 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.600 stark face. I mean, when he was a younger man, 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.560 he still had a very stark face, and here he's 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.240 you know, he's leaner, he's older. You know. I think 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.680 at this point he'd been through some you know, some 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.160 intense personal loss. His wife of many years had died 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.040 earlier in the seventies, and I think that kind of 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.680 cast a shadow on him personally for a good decade there, 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.520 if not the rest of his life. But again, consummate professional, 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.080 very talented, even in a role like this that isn't 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.720 really asking him to go beyond any anywhere, you know, 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.400 even even though he doesn't really do anything all that 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.760 memorable it's still nice when he's on screen. All right? 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.800 Who else is in this thing? Okay? We have lou 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.360 N Peters playing Laurie. Lou N Peters lived nineteen forty 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.800 six through twenty seventeen, also sometimes known as Carol Keys, 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.800 beautiful blonde English actress and singer. She started out on 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.600 TV in the late sixties, but eventually became a hammer 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.280 horror star after appearing in nineteen seventy one's Lust for 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.520 a Vampire and Twins of Evil, which had Peter Cushing 0:33:59.520 --> 0:33:59.760 in it. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.800 Peter Cushing plays a kind of witch finder inquisitor sort 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:11.000 of character in that he's the very stern church like 0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.280 uncle of the twins of the titular Twins of Evil. 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.719 Ah are the twins themselves evil? Or are they just 0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:18.360 aw of evil? 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.200 Only one of them is evil? One becomes the sort 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.040 of vampire bride of Count Carnstein. 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:26.040 Is that what he is? 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.000 He's the guy in the So there's like an evil 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.880 count in the movie who is a Satan worshiper. He 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.719 has dinner parties where he lifts his goblet and says 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:40.280 to Satan, and he seduces one of the two twins, 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.279 and that and she becomes evil, but the other one 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:42.680 is good. 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.440 Oh okay, all right. Her other Lun Peter's other horror 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.239 credits include the Flesh and Blood Show from seventy two, 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.840 Vampira from nineteen seventy four, but I have to stress 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:58.160 not the seemingly lost German TV movie Vampira, directed by 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.440 George Morse, starring Grisha Huber and with an early score 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.239 by Tangerine Dream. I'd love to get my hands on this. 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.600 If you have a copy of this, email us. But 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.879 no Peters was in the Vampira movie that is also 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.280 known as Old Dracula. 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:13.520 I don't know that one. 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.280 It's not supposed to be very good. Her TV credits 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.560 include two episodes of Doctor Who and a memorable gag 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.279 on Faulty Towers. I included a screenshot from this for 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.400 You Hear Joe, as well as one of her album covers. 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.440 So yeah, she was quite a fairly successful back in 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:30.759 the day. 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.080 Love Countdown is the Leun Peters album. 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.640 Yeah, she's wearing like gold pants. 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:41.080 Gold pants, yellow top, blonde hair, sort of gold background 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.360 with gold lettering it. 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:47.080 Yeah, all right. We also have a character named Milo 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.280 that's going to be important, played by Kostas Kara Georgis, 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.319 who lived nineteen thirty eight through nineteen eighty nine. So 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.800 his character in this is an American playboy who spends 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.480 the first couple of scenes naked in New York, not 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.600 on the streets, like in a like a penthouse apartment. 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.239 But the actor is a Greek leading man. 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.080 He looks like he's in a room at the playboy mansion, 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.920 but in all of his scenes in his room there's 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.440 like church organ music playing in the background. Did you 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:19.000 notice that? 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.000 I didn't notice that. 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:21.080 What's going on? 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:27.000 Yeah? So this may be his best known international film, 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.880 but his other works include nineteen sixty two Sky, nineteen 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.880 seventy three's Love on a Horse, and nineteen seventy seven's 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.440 Dangerous Cargo, which we referenced earlier. He's kind of a young, 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:43.200 prematurely gray or white haired fella, and I think he's 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.160 ultimately he's good in this, but again it's this is 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.080 a hard film to gauge anyone's talent on. 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.120 Yeah, I don't think the actor is bad. I think 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:56.880 it's a very poorly written part. His character is very flat, 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.160 like he just has basically one type of line, which 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.440 is I'm a detective. I need facts, stop with your 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:04.080 day dreaming. 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.560 Yeah, he's like a private detective that I this film. 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.919 I'm really floored by what the actual connections between any 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.319 given character is to another. Like, yes, we have this 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:24.800 basic idea that Donald pleasants, this kind of Catholic priest 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.439 has like this, this long standing relationship with these these 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.680 young folk that have gone out all over the world. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.920 But I don't know what that was like he was 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.400 he a teacher, did he raise them? I don't. I 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:37.040 just don't know. 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.400 They don't make it seem like that. So yeah, but 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:44.880 it's very perplexing. He he's father Roach. Father Roche sorry 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:49.840 for Roche, is an Irish priest living in Greece who 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:56.200 constantly has American archaeology students coming to live at his 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.160 house while they do archaeology. 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:04.239 Yeah, in his main finding characteristics are, you know, likes 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.800 the young people, he's hip with the young people, loves 0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.879 God of course, hates minotar. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.720 Cults, hates the devil. He's really not into the devil. 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.600 But yeah, also, like you said, it would be one 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.959 thing if he was like, oh, yeah, I run a 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.600 hostel for traveling students or something, but it's not like that. 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.360 It's like he knows all of these students from long before. 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.080 He's like, oh, I remember you when you were just 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.600 a child. So does he Where does he know him from? 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.240 Was there another movie we were supposed to have watched 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:31.520 or something? 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.719 You know, I think they're trying to set up a 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.480 sequel to this movie at the very. 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.400 He did do that at the end, yeah, where they're like, 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.960 well the evil is defeated for today. 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.520 But he turns to Milo and he's like, I may 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.640 need your help in films yet to come. 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.719 Yeah, if the Getty money continues to pour in, we 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.000 may have another adventure. 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.840 But also so that those are our three main characters 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:59.600 when we've got father, Father, Roche, Milo and Laurie that 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.440 they're they're the three main casts starting at like a 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.839 third of the way in. But also, this movie has 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:05.920 too many characters. 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.560 Yeah, there are a whole bunch of other characters who 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:13.040 really don't do much other than behave in a sexist 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.719 manner and then get kidnapped by minotar cults. So we 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:21.000 have Bob Belling playing Tom Belling lived I believe nineteen 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.279 forty four through nineteen seventy seven. These dates are not 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.239 listed on the major databases, but I spoken around. I 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.560 think they're correct, but they could be incorrect. American actor 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.200 and model who worked extensively in Greece for a while, 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.560 appearing in at least five films, but I'm to understand 0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.840 he also did some modeling work. Three of his films 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.040 were all released in seventy six. This a kind of 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.520 Greek jallo film called The Hook, and a notorious video 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.200 nasty titled Island of Death, about a pair of British 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.840 newlyweds who seem like they're just on a honeymoon and 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.600 enjoying life, but then they go on a religious, murderous 0:39:55.680 --> 0:40:00.239 rampage through rural Greece. It's kind of universally reviled and 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.960 was seemingly his final film before his possible untimely death. Again, 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.719 I'm not one hundred percent sure on these dates, but 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:08.800 that seems to be the story. 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.160 I noticed in this movie when I was first watching it, 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.120 I saw an actor. I was like, wait a minute, 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.839 Brad Douriff's in this. It wasn't Brad Dourif, but at 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.200 certain angles, this actor looks a lot like Brad Douraf, 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.839 except more with a kind of football player physique. 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.040 Yeah, I think he has a great look, you know, 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.439 like clearly he's he's like a cut leading man type 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.040 with this kind of like rugged seventies hair and face. Again, 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.400 he doesn't really get to do much in this and 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.680 once he's kidnapped by the Minotaur cult, like that's it. 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.320 You're tied up for the remainder of scenes. 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.040 I guess you wouldn't think that brad Dorof could so 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.200 easily with a few tweaks go into like total hunk mode. 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.359 But yeah, he's pretty close already. Sorry, we just got 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.919 sidetracked with a significant off mic conversation about which guy 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.600 was which, whether which Tom was witch character and Ian 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.880 was which character. But I think all the stuff you 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.080 just said we are talking about the same guy. 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:10.239 Yeah. There, the secondary young people are easily confused in 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.640 this film, all right. We also have an actor named 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.760 Jane Lyle who plays Milo's girlfriend dates unknown British model. 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.680 I think she plays the wife in Island of the 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.759 Dead opposite Belling. These are her only film credits, though 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.160 there is also sometimes a third credit nineteen seventy eight's 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.480 Erotic Nightmare. Is she a great actor? Probably not, but 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.719 to be fair, she's given very little to do in 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.759 this film other than be naked in that penthouse in 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.520 New York. One last person of note is that this 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.520 film also features Jessica Dublin playing Miss Zagross. She lived 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.600 nineteen eighteen through twenty twelve, another American actor who is 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.759 working in Europe at the time. Her credits go all 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.880 the way back to nineteen sixty nine, but then with 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.719 a lot of early work in eurocinema, she appeared in 0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.440 The Hook, Death Has Blue Eyes, The Devil's Men. Of course, 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.600 She's also an Island of Death all in seventy six. 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.880 But then she eventually moves back to the States and 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.800 appears in the nineteen eighty eight horror movie The Rejuvenator, 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.240 and also several trauma films, including Trauma's War in eighty 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.799 eight and Toxic Avenger two and three in eighty nine. 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.480 Haven't seen those, and please don't tell me we're going 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.239 to start doing trauma films. 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.880 I you know, off the top of my head, I 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:26.880 don't know that I've ever watched one in its entirety. 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.840 I remember seeing parts of them on TV back in 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.440 the nineties. But yeah, so listener recommendations, let us let's happen. 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:38.480 I mean, they're you know, they embrace the cheese, and 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.359 I feel like they're the kind of film that, on 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.399 paper would be something that we should enjoy, but I 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:55.000 just don't like them. 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:56.800 All right, Well, let's talk about the music. What do 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.080 you want to talk about first? You want to talk 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.160 about eno or do you want to talk about the 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.040 theme song that we get at the credits? 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.800 Oh? Man, how about that rockin theme song? 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.520 Yeah? This is It's titled The Devil's Men, with music 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.080 by Carl Jenkins, who I think, unless I'm confused here, 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.640 I believe as a Welsh composer born nineteen forty four, 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:21.759 lyrics by Carol Ann Barrett. And then the singer is 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:26.319 Paul Williams, though not that Paul Williams, a different Paul. 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:30.040 This is the English blues and rock singer Paul Williams 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.040 who was in the band Zoot Money and Juicy Lucy. 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.600 Juicy Lucy apparently also featured future Whitesnake guitarist Nick Moody. 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.759 Juicy Lucy's album titles sound like spinal tap albums. One 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.760 of them is pretty much called Smell the Glove. It's 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.080 I don't really I'm not familiar with this band much, 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:53.799 but this track was rockin it felt like, you know, 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.319 it had a little bit of I was trying to 0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.200 think what reminded me of Black Sabbath about it, and 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.359 I think maybe it was the drums. It had some 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.000 kind of more interesting, kind of jazzy drum fills like 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.520 Bill Ward does on some Black Sabbath songs. But it 0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:13.200 also had this driving, kind of up tempo beat and 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.200 some really good synth, and the singer on it sounds 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.760 like the guy from Jethro Tull. 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that comparison. It's kind 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:22.080 of catchy. 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:28.040 I kind of like it Devil Devil's Mayh. 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.480 But of course, the main attraction here is this terrific 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:35.440 score by Brian Eno born nineteen forty eight. Eno is, 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.640 of course, the legendary British musician, composer, record producer and 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.600 visual artists. I got it. I'm tempted to say bet 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.239 perhaps best known for his ambient work, but I mean 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.239 it's really too limiting to say that, because he's I mean, 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:55.680 his work encompasses pop, rock, funk, electronica, all sorts of stuff. 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.520 I was just trying to remember when I first became 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.040 aware of who Brian Eno was and I think I 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:09.319 discovered him through his collaborations with David Bowie. So I 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.360 think like when I was in high school, I first 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.319 heard some of those three Berlin albums. I heard like 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.680 low and I was like, oh wow, what is all 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:23.520 this real? Like spooky, haunting synthesizer, And I found out 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.120 Brian Eno had been a collaborator on these albums and 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.239 was partially responsible for the sound and direction of them. 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.720 But yeah, God, where do you start with Eno? That's 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:33.880 my personal story. 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.360 Yeah, yeah, I mean he he played synth and roxy 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.720 music from seventy through seventy three. He's still active today, 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:45.000 still producing, still writing, you know, still building up that legacy. 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.360 When now I guess it's in a way it's easier 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.880 to just sort of like hone in on his work 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.560 with film over the years, because when it comes to film, 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.360 his tracks and tracks that he's produced have been featured 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:02.040 on various soundtracks. His track an Ending Assent from the 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:06.040 nineteen eighty three album Apollo Atmospheres and Soundtracks has popped 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.640 up in more films and TV shows than I can list. 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:14.640 Absolutely amazing ambient track. He has also had composed isolated 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:18.160 tracks for films over the years, including the prophecy theme 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.920 from David Lynch's Dune in eighty four and from the 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.600 beginning from Dario Argento's Opera from eighty seven. He's also 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:31.200 composed a number of tracks for non existent films, and 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.480 I'm not deep enough on the background of these tracks 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.960 to know which ones were were in fact tracks he 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.440 composed for films that don't exist, that are kind of 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.799 like in the spirit of score composition, and I think 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.399 some of them were also like originally intended for film 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.280 product projects and they didn't come together. But you'll find 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.160 these on nineteen seventy eight's Music for Films and nineteen 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.919 eighty threes Music for Films, Volume two. But as far 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.120 as complete eno scores for films where like he's doing 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.680 the soul score work, he did some scores for Derek 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.520 Jarman Peter Jackson's The Lovely Bones in two thousand and 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.120 nine and also the two thousand and five film The Jacket. 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.279 His score for The Devil's Men aka Land of the 0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:16.360 Minotaur was I believe, his first full score and for film, 0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:19.319 and his only his second composition for film, following a 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.719 short nineteen seventy film titled Berlin Horse. In terms of 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.000 his discography. This comes out in seventy six, so it's 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.520 following his work with Robert Fripp on seventy five's Evening Star. 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:35.239 This is an album that JJ was talking to me 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:38.320 about and recommended that I listened to and indeed is awesome. 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.440 This also comes out after his solo album seventy four 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:46.240 is Here Come the Warm Jets, seventy four's Taking Tiger 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:50.400 Mountain By Strategy, seventy five's Another Green World, and nineteen 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:54.560 seventy five's Discrete Music. The weird thing about this score, though, 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.600 is despite the fact that it's Eno, I don't think 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.400 it has ever been released, and none of the acts 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.280 are seemingly featured on his release film Music nineteen seventy 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.680 six through twenty twenty. So I'm not sure if it's 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:10.960 a rights thing or if it's a situation where ENO 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.960 is not you know, doesn't look back on this music favorably. 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.560 But I mean, to my ear, I think it sounds 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.120 wonderful and it seems like the sort of film score 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.160 that film fans would jump at, and also Eno complete 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:22.480 as would jump at. 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.200 I agree, and you know, I was thinking about this. 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.560 I can't say for sure because I knew about ENO's 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.000 involvement before I started watching the movie, but I feel 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.279 like the music here is so distinctively Eno that I 0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:38.960 might have identified it even if I hadn't known. Like, 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.040 the first track we hear in the movie is actually 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.319 very simple. It only has a few elements. There's kind 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:48.120 of a lower droning pad, like a robot moaning softly, 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.239 and then there is there's what sounds kind of like 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.080 a tape loop effect, introducing little rhythmic hiccups and interruptions 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.879 in the drone, and then there's a soft higher part 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.400 that's basically just stepping back and forth between two notes. 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.879 So it's a pretty simple track, but I think it's 0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.120 just unusual for a movie of this kind, and its 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:12.360 mood imbues what you're seeing on the screen with so 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:17.320 much more interest and emotional paradox than would be there otherwise, 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.040 Like it is at the same time calming and unnerving. 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.960 It kind of feels like it's safe to settle down 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.800 and go to sleep, but also it suggests a question 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:28.200 like is there danger? 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.800 Yeah, I mean really in the opening scene there's about 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.879 to be a Satanic sacrifice, but the music does kind 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.840 of imbue you with that feeling of like, yeah, I'm 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.799 feeling kind of chill about this. Then you kind of 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.000 reflect on that and compare that feeling to what's actually 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.200 happening on the screen. A dreamlike quality sets in. 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:49.680 So there's not a ton of it, but I think 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.240 it's a very very good score. 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.520 Yeah, so, you know, I would like to hear it 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.359 in isolation, but I dotter maybe Brian, you know, has 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.799 different thoughts in the manner, and you know you can't 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:01.400 argue with you know. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:04.040 All right, we're going to talk about the plot a bit. 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.040 Yeah, let's get into the plot. 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.080 As I've mentioned before, I love a film that begins 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:12.200 by showing you its papers. The disc release here debuts 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.399 with a certificate showing that The Devil's Been has been 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.080 reviewed by the British Board of Film Sensors and has 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:22.520 been rated X. And I was thinking, really, it doesn't 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.680 seem that off the charts to me. 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.480 Yeah, Like I say, this film does not really have 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.840 any exploitive elements to it. I mean, there's a little 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.040 bit of a full nudity, but it's even so it's 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.320 very tame compared to other like naked films of the seventies. 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.759 Yeah, I don't know, so the rated X. But who 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.480 are we to question right X? So saith the right 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:50.439 Honorable the Lord Harleck KCMG, president of the British Board 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:54.200 of Film Sensors, and so I briefly got interested. I 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:56.360 was like, wait a minute, his name's on this movie. 0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.319 Who is the right honorable the Lord Harleck KCMG. If 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.080 my googling has not led me astray, this is William 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:08.920 David ormsby Gore, the fifth Baron Harleck, who lived nineteen 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:11.480 eighteen to nineteen eighty five, who was a member of 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.960 the UK House of Lords and a diplomat, including he 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.839 was ambassador to the United States during the Kennedy administration, 0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.080 and he was an associate of the Kennedy family. Apparently 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.279 he proposed marriage to Jackie Kennedy in nineteen sixty eight, 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:29.200 but she turned him down, and somehow that led to this. 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.480 So he years later was overseeing the review and classification 0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:34.000 of fine films like this one. 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.120 So he's like, what's this one here? Minotaz rated X, 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.200 no menotas on my watch. 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.160 I don't know if he actually watched the films. He 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.719 may have just been president of the organization. I like 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:50.520 to think he watched every film personally anyway. The movie 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:54.120 proper opens with a deep blue night sky, a full moon, 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.520 and dark tree branches looming in the foreground, and there 0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.640 is ambient music. There are owls and insects chirping in 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.800 the dark, and then we see figures walking through the 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:07.799 night around a Greek city on a hill, or maybe 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.040 not a city, more like a Greek village on a hill. 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:14.360 There are men in multicolored robes and hoods, like inquisitors, 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.520 marching between the houses and climbing up the rocks to 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:18.560 a secret cavern. 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.960 Yeah, like we said earlier, these various shots of like 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:26.320 the Greek countryside and Greek cities and so forth, Greek ruins, 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:29.480 they look good. I mean, it's attractive looking. I mean, 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.600 even though some of the footage I looked at from 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.719 Island of Death like nothing else you can say like 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.080 this looks looks like a cool place to visit. 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:42.400 Agreed, I like the rocky crags. And here's where we 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.360 get that eno track I was describing a minute ago. 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.879 But your classic cult sacrifice scene starts to unfold. There 0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:53.799 is an ancient stone temple with columns and archways and 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:58.399 menacing statues of bullheads and double bladed axes, and then 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.520 somebody cranks a wheel and the giant statue of a 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:05.239 minotaur emerges from beneath the floor. And this isn't just 0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:09.440 any minotar statue. This one has full blow torch nose, 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.080 jets of flame blasting out of each of his nostrils. 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:19.800 That's right. It's a magical, technological marvel. I think it 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.480 also has genitalia, which I think was also pointed out 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.960 on the the IMDb parental notes for this film. 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.280 That's what got it an X rating. The full frontal 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:30.560 mintar statue. 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.120 Nut a Minita penis rated X. 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.920 You know one thing about the minotar statue on its nose. 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:40.680 Rachel and I were watching this, and she pointed out 0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:44.160 that she could see the texture of the paper mache 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.080 on the on the nose. They're like, you can see 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.480 sort of strips of cloth and paper. 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.160 That's a good note. I was noticing the texture, but 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.440 I didn't, like instantly identify what it was. But I 0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:57.719 was thinking about the fact that I guess most of 0:53:57.760 --> 0:53:59.839 the people that originally saw this film would not have 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.160 seen that texture. You know, there's so much that's lost 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.320 in the prior projection of these films. 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.360 I guess I imagine this primarily playing on television, but 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:15.719 I don't know, maybe. 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.000 Not not without X rating. 0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:22.319 Oh that's a good point. Okay. So acolytes in red 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.760 and green satin robes. They light fires in a semicircular 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.880 trench on the floor. It's surrounding not an altar, but 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.360 three stone reclining chairs. 0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:33.640 Okay, all right. 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.919 Some cultists bring in a man and a woman who 0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:38.920 are dressed not like the rest of the cult. They're 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:42.920 wearing just seventies straight clothes and looks like we've got 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.319 some victims. So they're placed on these stone recliners. Peter 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:49.920 Cushing appears and he is the head cult member. He 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:51.640 stands in the middle of the room in a red 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:55.120 robe with a big gold minotaur chain around his neck, 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:58.279 and he says, we cover our faces in sight of 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.920 our Lord. And then every and the cult repeats his words, 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.839 and they all pull masks down over their faces, and 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.960 the minotaur statue is just snorting so much fire. 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:14.600 Yeah yeah again, Minotaur statue looks good, strong atmospheric opening. 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.200 I feel like I love the set. I like the 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.239 multi colored robes that seemingly hint at different ranks in 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.280 the colt. So this is not just a black robes 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:23.920 in the darkness kind of a cult. You know, they 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:27.719 put a little color into it. I looking back in 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:31.880 these sequences, though, they are revealing that all the villagers 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.520 are members of the cult. I don't think I necessarily 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.920 got that the first way through, But there's not like this. 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:40.120 It kind of takes the punch out of any revelation that, oh, 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:42.440 all the villagers are in the cult. Like, no, you 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:43.239 know that from the get go. 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.920 Yeah, they're all pretty much there. And then you know what, 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.279 not just the adults, the kids too, because there is 0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:50.840 a young girl in a cult robe. She comes up 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.640 to the two people in street clothes on the stone 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:57.080 recliners and she stabs them in the heart with a knife. 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.120 And I think I saw a comment somewhere online and 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.000 asking is that the director's daughter in that role? And 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.000 I have no idea, but I want to believe that. 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.799 Well. Either way, it's just super creepy. I love it. 0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:12.239 So the human sacrifice is done, the people are dead. 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:15.120 I guess that was for the minotaur. Did he like it? 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.439 There's no way to know. It doesn't. Again, there's nothing 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.960 you can even compare to in the like the classic 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:26.160 more or less canonical minotar myth, Like what does this 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:31.800 do for relations between you know, the the an ancient 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:36.280 crete and the rest of the of of the ancient world, 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.200 Like there's none of that, Like nobody's been thrown into 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.120 a labyrinth. We have nothing to go on here. 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.520 Oh but there's a hilarious choice here. 0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:46.560 Oh yes, the opening titles. The letters for the opening 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:50.759 title blast out of the freeze frame minotaur's nostrils, just 0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:52.440 an absolutely excellent choice. 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.920 Right, so it snorts out the I don't know, snort's 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:57.880 the right word that implies the air is going in 0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:01.960 it like uh sneezes out the letters that formed the 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.279 Devil's men, and then freeze frame on the fire. It's 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:11.600 like duh. And then there were some legitimate chortles at 0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:14.880 that moment on our couch, but because it sounds like 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:16.960 the kind of idea like a seven year old would have, 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:18.560 you know. And then the words come out of the 0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:24.200 monster's noseholes. Yeah, so that's good. And you might think 0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:28.520 this is the part since there's a freeze frame that 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.840 you you know, cut to the uptempo rock theme, But no, 0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:35.919 not at all. Instead, we transition to a different ambient track, 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.680 another big spooky mood. I guess it's Eno again, And 0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.120 this one is actually very spare, with a lot of 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.920 space in it, and the main motif is made of dissonant, 0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.440 swelling synth chords that sounded to me like a choir 0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:53.000 of ancient mummies sighing on the other side of a wall. 0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.480 Yeah. It immediately pulls you back in and you're like, 0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.720 oh no, he knows being real serious here, so I'm 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:00.760 gonna serious too. 0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.800 But okay, on to more action. Now we're in the daytime, 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.439 children running through the streets kicking a soccer ball. 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.120 Yeah yeah, I see these kids come running through the 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.680 streets though in a dusty European town, and I immediately 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.480 assume they're going to start pelting the local hunchback with 0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.040 rocks or cabbages or something. That probably says more about 0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.200 my viewing habits than anything. Yep. 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.880 So there's a local police inspector. He's receiving a phone call. 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.280 It's from a man named Father Roche, and that's Donald 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:42.040 Pleasance again playing an Irish priest living in Greece. Father 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.680 Roach is like, hey, how come so many people keep 0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:49.680 disappearing in your village? He mailed this cop a letter 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.280 and a photo of two students who had been there 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.080 and went missing recently, And what do you know, it's 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.360 the two people from those Stone Recliners that we saw 0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:00.160 being sacrificed to a menotaur. But he doesn't know that. 0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:03.000 So the police inspector says to him, you can't expect 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.200 me to keep track of every person who goes missing 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:10.240 in my jurisdiction, and okay, And Father Roche suggests that 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.720 they may have been victims of murder, and the police 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.320 inspector gets real mad and says, why don't you stick 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:19.200 to your job and I'll stick to mine. And I disagree. 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:20.480 I think they should trade jobs. 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.120 I want to point out, and this is something I 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:26.440 didn't get at first. But the police inspector is clearly 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:29.600 one of the cultists, Like this actor was clearly one 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.520 of the cultists, pulling a hood over his face for 0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:36.640 the for the sacrifice. So there's no there's no you know, 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:41.880 suspicion or mystery here. Like he's clearly in with the cult. 0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:45.800 Everybody's in the cult, everybody. So we see Father Roche 0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.880 in his humble office and he's pondering a gold trinket 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.440 on his desk, which is a little bull head hmmm. 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.760 And then we see him going about his business. So 0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:58.360 he walks on the hillside and he talks to the locals. 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.480 We see him kneeling alone in a tiny rustic chapel 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:04.440 and praying, and then we see him writing a letter. 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:06.840 By the way, there are a lot of letters, handwritten 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:11.240 letters in this movie. He's writing it to Milo Kea 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:15.200 in New York. And so then and then we fade 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:16.840 to New York, just like come up on the New 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:17.760 York skyline. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.439 Yeah, so far this movie set itself up again kind 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:22.760 of like a full car movie. But no, it's more 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:24.440 of a globe trotter apparently. 1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:27.240 I guess. So when we first meet Milo, he is 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.880 lying naked on a bed with pink sheets and pillows, 1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:34.160 smoking a cigarette. His chest hair is catching a shaft 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:38.360 of sunlight. Milo, he creates the impression of kind of 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:42.480 shaggy cad. He's got puffy gray hair. Though he's a 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:45.120 young guy. He's one of those young guys with gray hair, 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:50.920 dark eyebrows, and a very sarcastic, almost mean kind of edge. 1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:54.120 He's hanging out with his lady friend in this bedroom. 1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:57.640 That's just crammed with candles and liquor bottles and stuff. 1:00:57.680 --> 1:00:59.880 But again, this is the room where there's church or 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:01.000 music playing. 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:04.040 Yeah, And when we check in with him again in 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.280 New York, it seems to be the same room, the 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:10.920 same setting, still naked. So it implies that whatever his 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:13.240 job is supposed to be, the only thing he does 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.880 in New York is sex pretty much. 1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:19.000 Yeah, so he's hanging out here. He gets the letter 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:22.160 from father Roche like his lady friend is like, oh, 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:24.200 there's mail for you, and so he opens it up 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:26.680 and he's reading it. She sees him reading the letter 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:30.040 and is jealous. When she sees him reading, she's like, 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:33.080 who is she? And she takes the letter and then 1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:35.080 she reads it and she's like, oh, it's just that 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.920 unwell irish priest that you are constantly exchanging letters with. 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:42.600 And my love is like, Okay, maybe he's gone a 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.120 little too far with some of his minotaur theories, but 1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:48.440 lay off him. This is a direct quote. He's the 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:50.280 best friend I ever had. 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:55.360 Oh, no additional detail on that, really, but he seems sincere. 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:59.840 How do they know each other? Well? She says these things? 1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:03.240 He he keeps writing you about students disappearing, being swallowed 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:06.880 up by some ancient magic or something. It's crazy, it's medieval. 1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:10.000 And Milo says, yeah, I don't really believe him, but 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:14.160 you know, he's a good guy. Even though and even 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:16.920 though Father Roche is a good guy, and he's asking 1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:19.520 Milo to come out to Greece to help him investigate 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:21.880 the missing students, he will not do it. He's going 1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:24.080 to stay here in New York and mostly just stay 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:25.920 in bed and in fact, never even put his clothes 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:26.760 on or leave the house. 1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:29.880 Right, Yeah, very little to suggest he wears clothes in 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:31.280 America at all. 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:34.080 I think he's supposed to be a private detective. 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:37.520 I guess that makes as much sense as anything. 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:42.560 Sure, so there's more globe trotting. A group of three 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:46.200 archaeology students show up at Father Roche's house to stay 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:48.200 there while they're doing some kind of field work. 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:51.600 Oh this is where they drive up in the Australia van, right, 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:55.400 the super confusing van that says Australia on the front. 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:56.800 And at this point in the film, I was like, 1:02:57.160 --> 1:03:00.480 are we in Australia. I don't know, we were just 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:04.880 in New York. Maybe this is truly an international picture 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:07.280 going on? Here. But I think the idea is that 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:10.280 this is like the hippie fun bus that has brahas 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:11.560 driven to Australia. 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:15.080 I think it has the names of other countries on 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:17.160 different parts of the van as well. I think it 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:20.080 just says Australia on the front. But okay, we got 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:24.200 the three archaeology students here, we got Tom. Well, actually, no, 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:26.240 I think maybe I'm getting the names mixed up. I 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:28.280 was gonna say Tom is the one with the dark 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:30.000 hair and the beard who looks like a member of 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:33.920 Still Water. But if you're correct, you're saying that was 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:34.760 actually Ian. 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:40.919 Yeah. Ian is played by Nico's Verlicus, who is an 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:43.320 actor and I think a director as well. He's still 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:45.560 I think he's still around and had a pretty big career. 1:03:45.600 --> 1:03:49.560 But yeah, just a very handsome, like Greek Jesus or 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:52.160 Hercules type of a figure here. 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:55.280 Okay, that you're saying that's Ian, So that would make 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:59.320 Tom the one who looks like football Brad Doriff, Yes, okay. 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:02.120 And then you've got Beth who has long hair, big 1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:05.760 radiant smile, very short short So we were joking at 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.000 Rachel and I were noticing that, like there's a scene 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:10.720 where she's standing next to one of these guys who's 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:15.360 wearing such huge jeans that they're basically jincos, and there's 1:04:15.400 --> 1:04:18.040 like enough material in his pants to make a whole 1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:22.160 second pair of pants for her. Yeah, but so anyway, 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:24.320 Father Roche takes them inside. He's going to feed him 1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:26.320 some food. And here, oh boy, we get a table 1:04:26.360 --> 1:04:30.040 setting scan. We love to examine movie set food more 1:04:30.080 --> 1:04:34.320 closely than it was meant to withstand. So Father Roche 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:37.880 cooks his three guests a big skillet of food of 1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:41.160 some kind, and it looked to me like the skillet 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:45.360 had whole unchopped basically raw tomatoes in it, and then 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:48.440 some kind of steaming white substance. And at one point 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:52.640 Ian gets served out of the pan and it looks 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:55.080 like Donald Pleasants reaches in with the spoon and like 1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:57.360 serves some food, but what comes out is just one 1:04:57.600 --> 1:05:01.280 huge floppy lasagna sheet onto his plate and not much else. 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:04.040 Well, you know it's served with love, though, so you 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:06.400 don't you don't question it. But it could just as 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.080 easily have been a meal served up by like a 1:05:09.120 --> 1:05:12.000 harsh witch in another movement than just as fitting. 1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:16.280 Yeah, this is baba, ye got let's eat it. So 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:18.760 the main point of their meeting here is that Father 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:20.800 Roche tries to talk them out of going to the 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:23.200 village where they're headed. They want to go do archaeology, 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:28.000 but he's like, no, students keep disappearing there, and so 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:30.000 he thinks he's talked to them out of it. Everybody 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:32.600 goes to bed, and then the students, of course, they 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:34.760 sneak out and they go to the village anyway, They 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:36.920 go to the Village of Death and camp their intents. 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:37.919 They know no fear. 1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:40.000 Yeah, you know, we know how this is going to 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:42.160 turn out for them, though, there's no question. 1:05:42.760 --> 1:05:45.320 And then meanwhile we see Father Roche almost it's like 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:48.560 he's playing with minis or something. He's got a parchment 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:50.760 map and all these shapes and lines on it, and 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.120 he's arranging the minotaur trinkets on it. 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.760 Mm yeah, yeah, I guess they are kind of like mini's. 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:57.919 This would have really been more Peter Cushing's thing, who 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:02.160 was a famously, you know, a a miniature soldier enthusiast 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:05.080 and painted them and so forth. A man after my 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:05.680 own heart. 1:06:05.880 --> 1:06:09.360 So while they're camping, either Tom or Ian, whichever one 1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:12.320 it is, writes a letter to somebody named Laurie, another 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:15.440 blonde woman, telling her this is gonna be the third 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:19.560 similar looking blonde woman of the movie, telling her about 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:22.480 his quest for knowledge of the past and asking her 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.680 to come join them in Greece. And the next morning 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:27.840 he gives the letter to Beth, asking her to mail 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:29.960 it when she goes into town to buy groceries. 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:32.800 You know, in this film, we will later find out 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:36.520 that the only thing that really works against the cultest 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.720 is God's stuff. So it is kind of weird in 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:43.040 retrospect that he's reaching out to all of these archaeologists 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:46.200 and non church people when really he should have just 1:06:46.320 --> 1:06:48.400 brought in one or two other priests and they could 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:50.120 have knocked this cult out in an afternoon. 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:52.920 But he doesn't even know it's a cult yet. He 1:06:52.960 --> 1:06:55.680 doesn't know that he's just looking to find the secrets 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:58.640 of ancient Greece. Oh okay, oh waiter, are you talking 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:01.280 about Father? Are you talking about Father Roche bringing people in? 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:01.720 Yeah? 1:07:01.840 --> 1:07:04.080 Yeah, Oh, I'm sorry, I was confused. I thought you 1:07:04.120 --> 1:07:07.200 were talking about either Ian or Tom the guy riding No. 1:07:07.200 --> 1:07:09.960 No, no, they're basically I mean, they're just they're just 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:12.680 ponds in this whole scale but right, right, right, But yeah, 1:07:12.680 --> 1:07:14.440 I think Father Roach should have brought in like one 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:17.080 or two other priests and he could have handled everything 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:18.919 in just like an hour or two. 1:07:19.280 --> 1:07:22.360 I apologize I was confused, Yes, exactly right. He should 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:25.400 have known better. He even says it later when when Milo, 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:28.400 So he's the guy who summons Milo. Milo just wants 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:30.760 to shoot a gun at everything, and he's like, you fool, 1:07:30.920 --> 1:07:35.680 you fool, that will not work, called us a bulletproof. 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:39.480 But Beth goes into town to buy groceries. Oh and then, 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:41.920 by the way, while they're the three of them are 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:44.880 hanging out, there's a creepy guy with binoculars up on 1:07:44.920 --> 1:07:47.640 the cliffs above watching them, and the we get the 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:50.800 Brian Eno mummy size going and so we know something 1:07:50.840 --> 1:07:53.439 is really wrong here. And the guy watching them, he's 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:56.560 some sort of chauffeur. He's in a uniform driving a 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:57.760 fancy black car. 1:07:58.360 --> 1:08:01.800 M yes, and this'll find out as Peter Cushing's driver. 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:05.520 So, while Beth goes into town, Tom and Ian explore 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:08.640 the ruins of an ancient temple, and while wandering around 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:11.120 among the weathered stones and the columns, they find a 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:16.000 secret doorway covered with the double axe symbol and then 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.719 they open it up. Passageway leads down into a cave 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:23.960 full of stalactites and stalagmites, interesting rock formations. It actually 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:27.720 is a beautiful cave. And so they're wandering around the 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:30.360 caverns and they find a couple of dead bodies wrapped 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:32.200 in a red cloth, and what do you know, it's 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:35.439 the two people from Father Rosch's photograph. And then we 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:38.880 get a minotaur jump scare. There's a minotaur statue just 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:42.519 right there at him, fire nose blasting, and it says 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:47.440 those who enter the forbidden Chamber of the Minotaur must die. 1:08:48.160 --> 1:08:51.439 Camera zooms in on Tom and Ian's faces. They appear 1:08:51.479 --> 1:08:53.880 to be taking this news rather stoically. They just kind 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:56.160 of like boom, okay, and then it fades out. 1:08:56.680 --> 1:08:57.880 Yeah, kind of perplexed. 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.439 I mean, I guess that would be just con fusing. 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:05.639 Yeah, in this bright, bright cave, which just so brightly lit. 1:09:05.680 --> 1:09:08.680 It is quite you're right, I didn't even think about that. 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:11.280 Yeah, but it's a beautiful cave. So it's like you 1:09:11.320 --> 1:09:13.559 want to show everything. It's kind of like the reverse. 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:17.240 If your your cave set is barely cutting it, you're 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:19.920 gonna turn those lights way down. But when it's this beautiful, 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:23.120 actual cave environment, yeah, light it up. 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:26.240 So we see Beth shopping in town. She gets a 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:29.120 kind of icy reception from this lady she meets. There's 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:32.200 like a lady with redhair pushing a baby carriage, and 1:09:32.240 --> 1:09:34.400 the lady buys some meat and then puts it in 1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:38.200 the carriage with the baby, and Beth is like, cute baby, 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:40.960 and the woman just gives her dagger eyes. And then 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:45.120 outside the market, Beth meets Peter Cushing and he is 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:49.639 a very polite, courteous, genteel man. He's wearing a wool 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:53.920 jacket and a nice suit. And Beth drops a bag 1:09:54.000 --> 1:09:56.840 of what looks like cheese puffs or something in the street, 1:09:56.960 --> 1:09:58.599 and he picks it up for her and then has 1:09:58.640 --> 1:09:59.920 his chauffeur help her with her grown. 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:03.799 Doesn't she call it like, oh, my product or something 1:10:03.960 --> 1:10:04.479 like that. 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:08.479 Yeah, I think she says, my package, my package, Yes, 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.200 my package, but it's a bag of cheeseballs. 1:10:11.720 --> 1:10:13.559 Yeah. I mean, you know, I guess if you're in 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:16.600 the in the presence of Peter Cushing, you know, you 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:19.760 may scramble your words. And afterwards she's like, oh, why 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:21.960 did I call my cheese puffs, my package, Oh my god, 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:23.280 so embarrassed. 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:26.559 Well, she explains that she's an archaeology student. She's here 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:31.840 to do archaeology, and he says, well, I am baron Corrafax. 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:35.240 This castle is my castle and you're on my land. 1:10:35.760 --> 1:10:37.960 And it's like, oops, oh, I guess we didn't clear 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.559 that with him ahead of time. But he says, don't 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:43.400 worry if you're genuinely interested. This is one of the 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:47.280 oldest pagan sights in the country. Her answer to this is, 1:10:47.479 --> 1:10:51.759 are you a real baron? He says, it's an ancient 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:55.720 title in his own land, which is Carpathia, but now 1:10:55.760 --> 1:11:00.679 he lives here, and I got so true ripped up here. 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.720 We had to pause it and try to figure out 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:07.240 is he saying hereditary titles and lands are transferable from 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:11.000 Carpathia to Greece, Like, can you trade in your Carpathian 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:12.759 barony for a Greek castle? 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:18.200 Well, European royal families. It's complicated, right, yes. 1:11:19.800 --> 1:11:25.639 Yes, you see it is because I am my own cousin. Well, anyway, 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:28.519 so he's friendly. He offers to help her and her friends, 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.879 and then she drives away. She asks for her package 1:11:31.920 --> 1:11:35.200 and he gives her the cheese doodles and then she 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:37.600 drives away, and then the Mummy starts sighing in the 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:40.960 Eno score and he gives a devilish look, so we know, oh, 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:43.519 he's up to no good. And when she gets back 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:45.680 to her campsite, Tom and Ian are nowhere to be 1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:48.400 found and the tents are gone, so she goes to 1:11:48.439 --> 1:11:51.280 look for them at the Temple Ruins. We see her 1:11:51.360 --> 1:11:54.160 later that night walking outside the baron's estate and then 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:56.720 dudes in cult robes just kind of wander up to 1:11:56.760 --> 1:11:58.400 her and she screams. 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.880 Yeah, she's genuinely worried there because like Tom and Ian 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:04.400 don't seem to know how food works, and they're out 1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:08.280 there alone without cheese doodles, and it's just gone from 1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:10.200 from from bad to worse here. 1:12:10.840 --> 1:12:13.920 They do genuinely seem like they're like, oh, no, we 1:12:14.040 --> 1:12:18.080 need Beth to cook for us and otherwise we will starve. Yeah, 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:21.680 so we transitioned to a plane landing, and let's get 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:24.000 a good look at that plane. Oh it's it's on 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:27.040 the runway now, Okay, now it's turning around. Did you 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:29.759 see the engines? Here are the jet engines. 1:12:30.520 --> 1:12:33.960 Yeah, get some good globe trotting stock footage. 1:12:33.760 --> 1:12:37.040 And we meet another blond lady. This is Laurie, who 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:40.439 either Tom or Ian wrote the letter to and she 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:43.040 goes to stay at Father Roche's house. She's like, Hey, 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:45.960 what happened to my boyfriend? Why didn't he meet me 1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:50.160 at the airport? And Father Roche is like, I have 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:54.120 had enough of students disappearing. We've got you know, we've 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:56.599 got to put a stop to this. So he finally 1:12:56.640 --> 1:13:00.160 commits to doing the charges of a long distance call 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:03.240 to call Milo at his house on the phone and 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:05.920 demand he come to Greece to investigate. And then like 1:13:05.960 --> 1:13:07.960 the very next moment, Milo's there in Greece. 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:10.640 Yeah. It's like, Milo, I need you to put pants on. 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:13.160 I need you to find your passport, and he does. 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:16.040 Milo doesn't own pants, so I'm sure he has to 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:19.880 send out for some. So then we get the three 1:13:19.920 --> 1:13:22.200 of them driving in a car on a country road 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:25.960 and Milo is driving fast and recklessly, and Donald Pleasantce 1:13:26.080 --> 1:13:27.880 is like, I'd have taken the bus if I'd known 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:32.560 you were such a speed demon. And this is a dynamic. 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:36.040 I said earlier that this is a movie where the 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:40.840 same conversations just happen over and over again, and this 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.439 is definitely one of those things. There's like, there are 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:46.559 like four different scenes where they are driving a car 1:13:46.640 --> 1:13:48.720 and he's driving too fast and they talk about it, 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.000 how he's driving too fast. 1:13:50.760 --> 1:13:53.560 Yeah, yeah, because we come back to this later where 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.160 he's like, yeah, way, they're just talking about the same 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:58.880 thing again, more driving, more moving from point A to 1:13:58.880 --> 1:13:59.200 point B. 1:13:59.560 --> 1:14:04.120 Another conversation that repeats many times is Milo saying I'm 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:07.520 just a simple private detective, ideal in facts, not demons 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:11.040 and devils, And of course Father Roache is like, well, 1:14:11.080 --> 1:14:15.240 you know, you'll learn soon enough. So they're driving around 1:14:15.280 --> 1:14:17.720 I guess they're trying to start their investigation, and they 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:20.799 stumble across a funeral where there is a sudden, weird, 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:25.160 psychic mind meld between Laurie and the local girl. Wait 1:14:25.200 --> 1:14:27.439 a minute, was that the girl wielding the knife in 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:28.439 the cave earlier? 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:32.479 Oh yeah, yeah, another nice scene of this girl staring 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:37.240 blank expression at the camera. I think eno music kicking in, 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:39.680 making it nice and creepy and dream like. I like it. 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:42.280 So they stay at the local inn, and then later 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.439 this night there is a scene that's really funny where 1:14:44.479 --> 1:14:47.439 Laurie is like in the bath and then the cult 1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:49.880 members I guess are trying to come get her. They're 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:52.160 like one's coming in the door and another one's coming 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:55.439 in the window, and she sees them. And then when 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:58.320 they see that she sees them, they like run away, 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:00.760 so they like retract their heads through the doors and 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:03.360 the windows and like slam them shut. And we see 1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:07.679 this happen about seventeen times. So Laurie's like, hey, there 1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:10.360 were guys in weird hoods trying to get me in 1:15:10.479 --> 1:15:14.200 the bath and Milo doesn't believe her. He's like, oh, yeah, 1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:15.799 you were just dreaming or something. 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:17.799 He deals in facts, that's. 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:22.240 Right, But yeah, nothing she says is even supernatural or anything. 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:25.120 She's just like, guys attacked me while I was in 1:15:25.160 --> 1:15:28.639 the bathroom. Is like, that is a perfectly factual seeming statement. 1:15:29.600 --> 1:15:32.240 So the next day they explore the temple ruins. They 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.080 find the passageway, they go down into the caverns, they 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:39.800 find the sacrifice room. There is a chandelier trap where 1:15:39.840 --> 1:15:43.680 Milo saves Donald, Pleasance and Laurie from a falling chandelier 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:48.120 and they they I think, Milo goes up to like 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:51.120 the rope that has frayed and says, oh, is this 1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:54.400 an act of God? And then Donald Pleasant says, there's 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:56.720 someone here. I can feel him all around me. 1:15:57.360 --> 1:16:00.000 Yeah, this is a great set in this The chandelier 1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:02.320 trap is one of the few action sequences in the 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:06.200 whole picture, so of course it's in that trailer, but 1:16:06.600 --> 1:16:07.479 I do love the set. 1:16:07.960 --> 1:16:11.000 Let's see so skipping over a few things here, Roche 1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:13.000 and Milo. Oh, there's one point where they go and 1:16:13.000 --> 1:16:15.080 speak to the baron at his house. He like sends 1:16:15.080 --> 1:16:18.280 a car for them, and not a lot comes out 1:16:18.320 --> 1:16:20.800 of the scene. The baron is We learn that he's 1:16:20.800 --> 1:16:24.040 an exile from his home country, and they kind of 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:28.160 play trade some pleasantries, and then we see the lady 1:16:28.240 --> 1:16:30.960 with the baby from the grocery store and she says 1:16:31.000 --> 1:16:33.680 she is staying with Baron Korafax, And we see the 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:36.880 baby playing with this gold artifact and Donald Pleasant says 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:40.160 it's an odd toy, and Cushing says it is old, 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:44.120 but not odd. It is the liberis and Donald Pleasant says, 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:47.800 I know it is the ancient symbol of the Minoan priesthood. 1:16:48.200 --> 1:16:51.080 And then later he explains to Milo when they're alone 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:52.920 after they've left the house, he says, I didn't want 1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:55.479 to say too much. But it's also a symbol of 1:16:55.720 --> 1:17:00.479 human sacrifice. And then Milo's is like, shut, it was 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:04.479 just a toy. I only want facts. By the way, 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:07.639 remember that Milo said Donald Pleasants is the best friend 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:08.599 he's ever had. 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.920 And again Milo's supposed to be a detective, but the 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:15.519 tech detective work in this film is pretty shoddy. We 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:17.639 don't feel I don't really never felt like we really 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:22.680 have a detective story. It's the investigation portion of the 1:17:22.680 --> 1:17:25.200 film is just just feels kind of sloppy and with 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:26.360 lacking in direction. 1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:28.920 So they come back to the end that night. Oh 1:17:28.960 --> 1:17:30.880 and by the way, there's a recurring theme with like 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:33.760 this woman from the village who wants to talk to them, 1:17:34.000 --> 1:17:37.080 but every time she wants to talk to them, one 1:17:37.080 --> 1:17:39.880 of the like the police inspector, will pop up from 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:42.519 behind a bush and kind of grunted her menacingly, and 1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:45.799 then she'll get scared and run away. So that happens 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:48.760 a few times, and then they find her dead at 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:49.200 the end. 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:51.639 Yeah, I think this is Jessica Dublin, by the. 1:17:51.560 --> 1:17:57.360 Way, Okay, missus Zagros, Yeah all right. And then also 1:17:57.439 --> 1:17:59.880 this night we see Laurie getting chased through the woods 1:18:00.000 --> 1:18:03.040 by people in cult robes, like they're chasing her. And 1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:06.760 then Milo goes and he hears her screaming, so he 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:09.160 goes and finds her in the woods and she's like, 1:18:09.200 --> 1:18:12.960 there were men chasing me and Milo's like, no nonsense, 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:15.679 probably just a cow got loose in the woods. 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:21.040 Geez. Yeah, the film is there. Again, it doesn't get 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:24.519 into like really big sexism, but there's just like a 1:18:24.600 --> 1:18:28.439 pervasive film of sexism over the entire thing, you know, 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:31.760 Like again, doesn't really get into exploitation territory, but it's 1:18:31.800 --> 1:18:35.080 like nobody listens to the female characters at all. 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:38.400 All of the young men at least do not listen 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:41.400 to any of the women. Yeah, yes, I guess Donald 1:18:41.400 --> 1:18:43.400 Pleasants is sort of he's listening. 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:46.280 He's listening to everybody. He's hip, he's hip with the 1:18:46.280 --> 1:18:46.880 young folk here. 1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:55.080 So when the three of them get reunited, they let's see, 1:18:55.080 --> 1:18:57.840 they learn, Oh, the whole village is deserted because Roach 1:18:57.920 --> 1:19:00.519 had been going out trying to find somebody to help them. 1:19:01.000 --> 1:19:03.639 I guess I think maybe because they heard Laurie screaming, 1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:08.400 but he can't find anybody, so all deserted. There's no power. 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:11.519 The houses are dark and empty, so they go up 1:19:11.520 --> 1:19:14.479 to their rooms at the end with candles. But then 1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:16.760 Milo goes back down to the bar because he says 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:18.840 he's gonna have a drink I guess in the dark, 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:22.040 and Laurie is scared. She says, there there were people 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:24.759 in the woods, like some human fiend. And here Donald 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:27.320 Pleasant is listening to her. He's like, I know. And 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:29.679 this is where he gives his speech about the devil. 1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:33.280 The force acting here is older than mankind, the power 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:36.800 without a face. It may have been known as Mephistopheles 1:19:37.080 --> 1:19:40.479 or Beelzebub or whatever else, but it is all the same. 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:41.360 It is the devil. 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:46.639 Yeah again it's devils, minotaurs and yeah, all the same thing. 1:19:46.760 --> 1:19:49.640 Doesn't matter. I'm opposed to it. Let's go stop it. 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:52.400 So he goes back downstairs, so there's a lot of 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:55.439 just kind of going up and downstairs. Here he goes 1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:57.360 back down to Milo, and this is where they have 1:19:57.439 --> 1:20:00.680 the exchange about where the devil. Did the whole get too, 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:03.439 and he's like, you said it yourself, the devil. 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:05.000 Oh. 1:20:05.000 --> 1:20:08.040 But then it finally reveals where the three archaeology students 1:20:08.040 --> 1:20:11.160 from thirty minutes ago were they are in a cave, 1:20:11.360 --> 1:20:14.200 still alive, being held prisoner by Peter Cushing, and he 1:20:14.240 --> 1:20:17.160 stands in front of them without saying anything, but the 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:20.559 minotaur talks to them. The statue says, only one thing 1:20:20.720 --> 1:20:22.559 can save you now, or I guess it does a 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:26.679 creepy voice. Only one thing can save you now. Father 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:32.280 Roche must die. He has entered my forbidden chamber, and 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:35.519 I think he's sort of talking mostly to Beth, and 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:39.120 Beth has a vision of herself stabbing Donald Pleasance with 1:20:39.160 --> 1:20:42.080 a knife and she's like, oh no, you know it 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:45.720 wants me to kill Father Roche and she says she 1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:48.599 won't do it. But Cushing and his chauffeur are both 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:51.760 standing there and they laugh like ha ha ha ha 1:20:51.400 --> 1:20:53.240 ha ha, and they just wander away. 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:56.639 Yeah, it's like a creepy sequence, but nothing's really done 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:59.320 with it, and like nothing really evolves out of this moment. 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:02.040 There actually a lot of scenes in this movie where 1:21:02.080 --> 1:21:07.080 nothing changes plot wiseing nothing new has happened. 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:10.560 But you keep watching because you know there's going to 1:21:10.600 --> 1:21:12.360 be a showdown. You know that there's going to be 1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:14.599 some sort of payoff of the end, right, so we. 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:19.599 Start getting there, so Roche and Milo. They see more 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:22.360 cult figures moving around or I guess maybe Milo season 1:21:22.400 --> 1:21:25.120 for the first time, and then they chase after them. 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.759 They chase the cult members, then the cult members chase them, 1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:30.840 and there's a lot of chasing around. They get the 1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:33.840 two non cult members get locked into some kind of 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:37.960 walled garden and we see a ceremony beginning where Cushing 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:41.879 is saying the old customs remain and the ancient gods 1:21:41.920 --> 1:21:46.160 live on, which isn't much of a catechism, I don't know, 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:50.639 but everybody repeats this. They're saying all the same things 1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:54.360 he's saying. And then we see the archaeology students. They're 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:57.920 tied to poles like prisoners of the Ewoks and brought 1:21:57.960 --> 1:22:01.840 in put on the recliners, and Ian and Beth get 1:22:01.840 --> 1:22:05.800 deposited on stone recliners and the girl stabs them in 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:08.360 the heart or maybe it's Tom and Beth, whichever Ian 1:22:08.479 --> 1:22:12.240 or Tom, so they're dead. And later Donald, Pleasance and 1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:15.200 Milo just walk up on these recliners and find them there. 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:17.120 I don't know how they got to where this was, 1:22:18.240 --> 1:22:20.800 but so they're driving around and at some point they 1:22:20.920 --> 1:22:25.200 hit a cultist with their car and then they uncover 1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:28.040 his face and I think it's the police inspector. Is 1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:29.040 that who you thought it was? 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:30.840 I think I think it is, yes. 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:33.519 And he smiles. He's like aha, and he gets up 1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:37.880 and he runs away, and Roche says, yes, he was 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.080 at the edge of death, but it takes more than 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:43.439 the force of an automobile to destroy them. And I 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:46.000 was thinking, where did he get this info? He's like 1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:49.000 Van Helsing, but instead of knowledge on vampires, he has 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:50.960 knowledge on Minotaur cult members. 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:57.000 Yeah, and they're sort of bland powers, bland but impressive, like, yes, 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.640 you can survive a gunshot, but it feels like the 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:02.559 kind of thing that would have been impressive in like 1:23:02.640 --> 1:23:07.439 a an action adventure serial from the thirties. You know, 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:11.240 that's like the level of threat in magic we're dealing 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:15.840 with with these cult members. 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:24.519 So the next day in the village, everybody is going 1:23:24.520 --> 1:23:27.479 about their business, but now Roche and Milo are walking 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:30.439 amongst these people in the streets and they realize all 1:23:30.520 --> 1:23:32.920 of these people are members of the Minotaur Cult. 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:36.000 By night, finally putting Linen two together here. 1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:40.400 Oh wow, how who would have thought? Also, they realize, whoops, 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:42.840 Laurie has been cult napped in the night, so now 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:45.960 she is she's been taken by them, and they know 1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:48.960 she's probably going to be sacrificed the next night. So 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:52.599 the so they're they're trying to figure out what's going on, 1:23:52.720 --> 1:23:57.559 and Milo is like, wow, finally finally he recognizes something 1:23:57.600 --> 1:24:00.479 as up when Laurie is gone, so he he starts 1:24:00.960 --> 1:24:04.360 The police inspector comes in the door of their room 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:06.760 at the end, I guess and is like, hey, what's up, 1:24:06.800 --> 1:24:09.640 and Milo just starts beating him up and punching him 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.559 in the face, throwing him down the stairs until he 1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:15.720 is stopped by Peter Cushing, who is like, hey, why 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:19.320 are you beating up a police inspector? And then Cushing 1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:21.680 pulls a shotgun on him. So it's barren with a 1:24:21.720 --> 1:24:24.920 shotgun here, and what's the deal with it. He says 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:27.439 he's going to give them one minute to do something, 1:24:27.520 --> 1:24:29.840 maybe to get out of the inn or something, and 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:33.040 then he counts down a few seconds but then shoots 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:37.000 the clock. It's really kind of a squib of a scene. 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:42.760 Yeah, so many squibs in this movie where yeah, it 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:45.200 doesn't there's not really any kind of payoff. It's unclear 1:24:45.240 --> 1:24:49.400 exactly like why we were here, But you keep watching 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:52.080 because you know you're gonna get to that big showdown. 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:54.200 There's gonna be a show There's got to be a showdown. 1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:57.679 Oh, we're basically there. So Roche and Milo drive away. 1:24:58.120 --> 1:25:00.920 Milo pulls a gun out of the glove in the car, 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:03.680 and Donald Pleasance is like, haven't you learned anything? Do 1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:06.040 you really think you can stop this with bullets? There's 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:09.559 only one force that can fight them, And so Donald 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:12.760 Pleasance and Milo stop at a roadside chapel to get weapons, 1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:15.280 so they get a crucifix and holy water and all 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:16.720 this for the final showdown. 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:19.679 I did like that we got to see the sourcing 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:22.280 of the holy water. I feel like this is one 1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:24.960 thing the film does well. More often than not, you 1:25:25.000 --> 1:25:27.800 see the holy water in a vampire movie or what 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:30.000 have you, it's you know, it's already been collected. It's 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:32.439 just in a little bottle as if you get it 1:25:32.479 --> 1:25:34.320 that way and you store it that way. But I 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:36.280 kind of like that we saw the collection of the 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:39.439 holy water in a way. It it's one of the 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:42.519 few moments in the film where they successfully build towards 1:25:42.520 --> 1:25:43.120 something else. 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:46.720 I agree. I like this scene also also we see 1:25:46.720 --> 1:25:49.479 Peter Cushing go to the temple to speak to the minotaur, 1:25:49.600 --> 1:25:53.160 and the minotaur, unsurprisingly wants him to kill the priest. 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:55.439 He's like, bring me Father Roach. I don't know why 1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:57.759 he's so interested in Father Roach. I think it's because 1:25:58.120 --> 1:26:01.479 he entered his forbidden chamber and is still alive. But 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:06.280 that's also true of Milo and of Laurie, who I 1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:09.240 guess the cult has now in custody. 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:11.960 You know, time was a minotaur would take care of 1:26:12.000 --> 1:26:14.519 this problem itself. You know, that was kind of the 1:26:14.520 --> 1:26:16.000 classic situation. 1:26:16.479 --> 1:26:19.120 Yeah, yeah, but now he's got to get Peter Cushing 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:20.160 to do his work for him. 1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:20.680 I don't know. 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:24.120 So there's a final showdown. Milo and Roach go back 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:26.280 to Stop. You know, there's a ceremony going on. You 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:28.320 can imagine exactly what it is. There are no real 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:30.519 surprises at all at the end of this movie. There's 1:26:30.520 --> 1:26:34.559 a big ceremony and they've got Laurie there, and then 1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:37.400 they've got whichever one of the archaeology students it was 1:26:37.479 --> 1:26:40.840 that's still alive, either Tom or Ian. Those two are 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:43.000 still alive and they're going to be sacrificed. 1:26:43.200 --> 1:26:43.400 You know. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.120 The girl with the knife is there ceremonies going on. 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:49.840 Milo busts in into the ceremony with a gun, but 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:51.840 the cult is basically don't care. They just sort of 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:55.559 ignore him while he's like blam blaming at them, and 1:26:55.640 --> 1:26:58.439 they just grab him, you know, because they're in vulnerable 1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:01.799 to bullets. Of course, only a greater power can stop them, 1:27:02.280 --> 1:27:04.760 so they tie him up to the third recliner at 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:06.320 the front of the temple, and I guess they're going 1:27:06.400 --> 1:27:11.320 to sacrifice him too. The minotaur statue once again reiterates 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:14.360 those who enter the forbidden chamber of the Minotaur must die. 1:27:15.160 --> 1:27:18.559 And then Roche bust he comes in and he defeats 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:20.920 them all. How does he do it? Does he is there? 1:27:20.960 --> 1:27:21.559 Any? Is there? 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.920 Like a big twist? What is it he's gonna do? 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:27.519 He holds up a crucifix and he says some Latin 1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:31.240 he's like in nomine patrees, and then the minotaur and 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:36.000 all of the cult members explode like just shrapnel everywhere. 1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:39.960 The least little bit of religion down here, least little 1:27:40.000 --> 1:27:45.040 bit of Christianity down in the Minotaur's layer, just explodes. 1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:49.600 Everyone except for the coldest children. So anybody in I 1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:52.519 think the children are all wearing white robes. Yeah, so 1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:55.720 if you have any other color of robe, you just 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:57.040 completely explode. 1:27:57.360 --> 1:28:00.640 The green, the purple, the red, they're all exploded. 1:28:01.200 --> 1:28:04.640 Yeah, just completely blasted. You know. It's kind of like 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:07.559 a low rent version of the Devil's Rain. Instead of 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:12.280 having them like slowly painstakingly melting for you know, a 1:28:12.280 --> 1:28:14.920 good fifteen minutes or what have you, it's just a 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:16.639 few quick explosions and they're done. 1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:18.760 But I think this is kind of funny because the 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:22.800 creepy cult girl was the one who actually physically did 1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:25.400 all the murders, like she put the knife in the people. 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:28.879 But she's okay, an innocent She's an innocent Joe. 1:28:28.840 --> 1:28:31.800 That's right. So she and the other kids they wander out, 1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:35.560 and you know, Milo's like, how come they didn't explode? 1:28:35.640 --> 1:28:38.880 And Father Roche explains. He says, they are young, their 1:28:38.920 --> 1:28:42.400 souls are incorruptible, but the fight against evil goes on. 1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:46.280 One day, Milo, I may need your help again. They 1:28:46.280 --> 1:28:49.519 are setting up a sequel, and then it cuts straight 1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:53.280 to the rock track. You know, let's get a sample 1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:54.240 of that, Jja. 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:03.160 So groovy. What kind of globe trotting adventures are these 1:29:03.200 --> 1:29:05.240 two going to get into? In the next film that 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:05.960 they didn't make. 1:29:06.479 --> 1:29:09.360 Oh, maybe they'll go back to Roche's home of Ireland 1:29:09.720 --> 1:29:11.760 and there will be a banshee and we'll learn about 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.560 how banshee is just the same thing as the Devil. 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:17.200 Yeah, like I think that would be the template Satanic 1:29:17.240 --> 1:29:19.439 cult that's worshiping the Banshee. And then they do a 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:22.080 film where they go to somewhere in the US and 1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:25.920 it's like a Satanic cult that's worshiping Bigfoot, just whatever, 1:29:26.400 --> 1:29:29.920 just which as yes, yes, I mean in all cases 1:29:29.920 --> 1:29:32.200 it's obviously the Devil. And then they go to one 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:34.560 and it's like it's a Satanic cult and they're worshiping 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:37.240 Oh Jesus, oh this is just a church. Then they're like, okay, 1:29:37.400 --> 1:29:39.320 cancel this, this is just another church. 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.560 Okay, Well, I think this is definitely not one of 1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:46.760 the best films we have covered, But you know what, 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:48.839 I had a great time on today's episode. 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:52.080 Yeah, this is a fun one. I also want to 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:55.960 drive those explosions when the cult members explode, it's not gory, 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:58.439 it's just kind of they just kind of explode. It's 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:03.120 like they're like drift foot. They're yeah, so yeah, this 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:04.800 is a this is a fun one. It's a hard 1:30:05.080 --> 1:30:08.200 it's hard to recommend this one too, folks, unless you were, 1:30:08.439 --> 1:30:12.080 you know, the completest on any of the talents involved here. 1:30:12.840 --> 1:30:15.679 I think if you're if you're a big Brian Eno fan, 1:30:15.760 --> 1:30:18.519 it's worth checking out. Again. If you're a huge Donald 1:30:18.560 --> 1:30:21.160 pleasant for Peter Cushion fan and you just must see everything, 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:22.439 then give it a go. 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:26.200 It's I think this is a good This is a 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:28.559 good movie to put on while you're doing something else. 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:31.519 That's something I like to do sometimes if I'm like 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:34.240 hanging out with people, I put on a silly movie 1:30:34.280 --> 1:30:37.960 on low volume that's not too visually arresting. This is 1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:38.439 a good. 1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:40.519 One, Yeah, I think. I think. In fact, I have 1:30:40.560 --> 1:30:43.080 a neighbor who had these years and years ago. I 1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:46.439 think he was playing this in his backyard. So yeah, 1:30:46.439 --> 1:30:49.400 it's it's it's it's pretty good to play in such 1:30:49.400 --> 1:30:51.639 a setting, and you know, the Greek connection is pretty cool. 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:54.720 I like getting to check Greek cinema off to some 1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:58.040 degree on the Weird House Cinema International checklist. 1:30:58.479 --> 1:31:00.200 This was the one. 1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:04.040 Well, we're not doing Island to Death, that's for sure, 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:10.080 but we always, you know, we invite a recommendation from listeners. 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:13.040 So if there is another example of weird Greek cinema 1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:16.599 that we should consider, write in and let us know. Yes, 1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:19.080 of course, all right, well we're gonna go ahead and 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:21.800 close this one up. 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