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He said, 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: thank you very much, oll Miss, but I'm blowing this 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: popsicle stand and I'm done. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: The fallout. Yeah, we have a new pope. 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 5: It seems like because we had the conclave, I mean 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 5: the con Lane going on our weekend. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Marty Smith, God rested saw it. It was alive. But damn 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: that dude was at ole. 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 5: Miss facility for like twenty four straight hours waiting for 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 5: the announcement that Lane Kiffin would in fact. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Did you really think he was not going? 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I really I'm stunned that people are stunned 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: that he's going. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 5: Well, he is, like you mentioned, he's leaving all Miss 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 5: on the eve of the college football playoff, which the 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 5: running Rebels will be in. We don't know if they'll 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: be in the top five, top ten, but they'll be 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: somewhere in the top twelve. And even still, Lane Kiffin 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: leaving All Miss to take the LSU at coaching job, 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: he'll be at worst the second highest paid coach in 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 5: college football and his team right now left holding the 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 5: bag because even though he said he wanted to stick 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 5: around and coach them finish out this season with the Rebels, 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: they said, no, hell no, you're leaving. Don't hit the door. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 5: Hit you on the way out with splitcher. Stay in LSU. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 5: And that's where he's at. 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: If they don't want him to coach, I get it, 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: and we've seen that happen before. But I don't know 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: where he's the bad guy. This is the system that's 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: set up. 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: You know. I'm waiting to hear from. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: Nick Sabin and Tom Izzo and them telling me how 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: bad college sports is with the kids leaving and going. 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: To the transfer put where those guys. 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: I want to see those guys stand up on big 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: platforms today and tell me how terrible it is that 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: coaches walk away from kids. And if you want to 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: blame Lane Kiffin, Please save it. People have been walking 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: out on kids forever. This is not new, no breaking news. 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: This is the system that's set up. This is the 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: time clock that's set up, right, this is when you 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: can do it. We know all the Lions fans had 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: their panties in a bunch last year because Ben Johnson 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: was interviewing during the playoff. 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: Well that's the. 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: Timetable, right, You can't you can't wait, You can't. 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: You gotta get somebody in place. You gotta get ready. 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: This is what happens. So all I'm saying is I 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: do not blame Lane Kiffin. All these people are like. 60 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh didn't you turn this back on the kids? It 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: was a shame. 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 4: They had a magical teagion and he could he walked 63 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: down on there and this four years seat. Dude, there's 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: nothing new here, there's nothing special. There's no guaranteed gonna 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: win some national championship. And it's an opportunity of a lifetime. 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: And this was a step. Jobs come open, they don't 67 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 4: come open every year. Guy gets and he might have 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: it for ten years, you don't know, or at least five 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: or six, and things happen, maybe I'm old miss reverts 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: back to where it was and it isn't that good 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: or whatever. After this group of players, there's a lot 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: of the things that play in but I am going 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: to wash the hands of Lane Kiffin and I have 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: no issue with it. Kids, bounce when you're ready to bounce. 75 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin, bounce when you're ready to bounce. I just 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: all these people do it, and now it's the end 77 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: of the world. 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm calling him Lane dipping because he's always dipping. Always 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: get out of there, and nobody has. You have the 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: absolute right to go where you want. That's true, but 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean people have to like it. And to me, 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it also doesn't have to necessarily make sense. I feel 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: like he all has as a case of the gag. 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Grass is always greener. Somewhere else. Feel like he's somewhere 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: else is gonna be better. Go to else, you somewhere 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: else can be Alabama, somewhere else. 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: Is gonna be better. 88 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: I gotta go to Ohio State, or like, I have 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: a feeling like this will something will never be satisfied 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: within him, which is fine, that's just prerogative, but where 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you can't have issues where I wonder about the decision 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: to leave and specifically going there is a couple of things. One, rob, 93 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: your program is better than LSU. You literally have built 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: a better bro You've done now what you hope to 95 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: do at LSU, which is build a college football program. 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: They're not build a program that. I can't tell you 97 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: about what they did in the past. I'm telling you 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: about what I've done. If I'm playing kiffing, don't tell 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about that. I'm telling you 100 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: I've been here and we've been playing very well to 101 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: the tune now of the best record in the school 102 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: history and a chance of the college football playoff. And 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: when you bring up you're mentioning that to kids, that's 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: the thing you're leaving them now. 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: And I agree with you, he can't. 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: The timetable sucks because the whole point you've preached is 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: come here, we're gonna build something. Come here, we got 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a chance compete for a title. Come here, We're gonna 109 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: do something that hasn't been done in fifty six years, 110 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: whatever it's been for them. And you literally are living 111 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: that now. You have a chance to compete. So you're 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: leaving the college. The coaches do are there with you're 113 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: leaving the students, you leave in everybody that's a part 114 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: of this program that helped build it to the point 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: of getting to where you want to get to. You're 116 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: going to LSU to hope to compete for a title. 117 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: You literally have a chance to now, So that part 118 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: of it doesn't make sense to me. If they were 119 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: a good team nine and three and competitive and he 120 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: just felt like, oh, well, I can understand it. You're 121 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: literally having an opportunity to compete for a championship. So 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: that part of it I don't get. And then the 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: other thing to at LSU is you gotta you gotta 124 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for. In a sense of 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: it is just checking a box because you can go there. 126 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: We've seen Brian Kelly just got a whole bunch of 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: money to leave fifty some million dollars. But ain't guarantee 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you can go there and be man and then you're 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: gone in three four years and what would have happened 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: You've been another coach at LSU that was there and 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: you want a few. 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: Games, or you might go there and win back to 133 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: back championships. How about that and do something as special? Yeah, 134 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: you could do that as well. You could have did 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: it at all, miss No, but now it ain't. No 136 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: old back to back championship is an old mess because 137 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: I just. 138 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: Dabo Sweeney. 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: If I told you he was gonna run off a 140 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: decade of greatness, you'd be like, yeah, right, it happened. 141 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: If I told you what. Miami reed and they've had 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: great coaches. 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: Nick Saban went down there unless all these people because 144 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: there's something. 145 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: There and maybe this was one of his dreams. 146 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: So that for people, just like a kid who's somewhere 147 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: and they go to to Michigan or whatever, they could 148 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: have gone to Ohio State, but that might have been 149 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: their dream or that that's school. 150 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: That's Howard. He's from Cleveland. Everybody was like, what are 151 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: you leaving? So again, that's his absolute prerogative. And I 152 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: don't necessarily I don't mind in the sense that this 153 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: is like, I would have been more shot for Lane 154 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Kiffer and to stay because that would be counter with 155 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: lang Kiffin is typically done. But they hired him knowing 156 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: his history, right, That's what I'm saying. So shocking would 157 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: have been more if he was, like, you know what, 158 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: I didn't doubt at all that he was going. But 159 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I just wonder, like what for him, what's he what's 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: he chasing? Like what it feels like it for him? 161 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I gotta do this, I 162 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: gotta do that because you got a great situation. You're 163 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the man, you created something there, you got a chance 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: to compete. You're a better organize, you're a better program. 165 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not saying historically right now, but he 166 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: can look at it. 167 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: And say, look look at what I was able to 168 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: do there. Imagine if I had all these LSU resources. 169 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: And people know, the governor, the government, you got about 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: the governor tell you to get up out of here. 171 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: The government, don't be playing around the governator, be paying 172 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: attention out there in Louisiana. 173 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: It's it's it's the way things work in life. 174 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: There's opportunities that come and people will look back and 175 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: sometimes you'll regret that you didn't take a great opportunity, 176 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: you know, something that you really wanted to do. 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: And I believe that that's what it is. 178 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: He's one of those guys who's not staying for twenty years. 179 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: That's not his make not his makeup. 180 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: So I don't know why people are so worked up 181 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: and they can boo him as he gets on his 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: private plane to go. 183 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: To bath Rouge or whatever they want to do. Well, 184 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: you know he has. 185 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: It's also interesting about lang keivin God have got that 186 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly of what I was talking about failing. 187 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: Up and that he hasn't. 188 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: He hasn't even won a conference title in his career, 189 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Like he keeps getting opportunities. 190 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: That's how few people there are. 191 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: And those are the names Lincoln Riley got. 192 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: Look at the deal he got at USC. What does 193 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: he want? There are many people that anything. I agree 194 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: with you. 195 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Again, no big games, always the same situation. 196 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: And then he's mad at everybody else. 197 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and people looking at at USC and go oh 198 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: you know no, no, when you hired him, get him 199 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: all that loo, he hadn't wonted. 200 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Ye, So what you thought you were gonna get Caleb? 201 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: He did and he got a heisman, but they didn't 202 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: win any big games. So my point is lang kivvn 203 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: is he still has a lot to prove in that 204 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: sense of actually winning something big. He he's turned floor 205 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: at Athletic around, obviously, turn old miss around. But that's 206 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the thing to meet is the crazy is that he's competing, 207 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: he has a chance to win a national title this year. 208 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: Who knows what happened, and he's leaving out on that. 209 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: That's the only part for me that's really crazy. 210 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: That's the whole point. Which compete for. 211 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 212 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: the nation. 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Check us out 224 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: on YouTube and subscribe. 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: And uh, it's crazy. 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: As bad as the Steelers were and as bad as 227 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: the Ravens were, and they're both still fighting for the division, 228 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like one of these teams 229 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: gonna make the playoffs. 230 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow picked a bad year to have been down 231 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: because I'd be looking like. 232 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: Man, if I was here this whole season, we would 233 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: have we would have been done with the division by now. 234 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean. 235 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: But obviously there was the Mike Tomlin bowing and people 236 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 4: want to you know, fire Mike Tomlin, and we do 237 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: have the sound on that. 238 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 3: Let's say listen, you know what, it's not surprising at all. 239 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: And I've said this to you before that they haven't 240 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: won a playoff game in a long time. 241 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: You can't keep resting on that championship. 242 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: It's the same thing like John Harbaugh and I said, 243 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: I said it both and he's been coached. 244 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: Think about this, Mike Tomlin. 245 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: Ain't teen years dude, And that finishing above five hundred 246 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: or I had five hundred or better mediocre Like okay, 247 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: Like is that that's cool? Like for a few years, 248 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: you know, if you're mixing another one or another championship 249 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: or something. 250 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: So I'm not I'm not against. 251 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: I understand the frustration of the Steelers fans, you know, 252 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: like this is this is real. Fans want to win 253 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: like this, there's and we get it. You don't get 254 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: to win that many times. You know that if you 255 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: could get see your team winning your lifetime once or 256 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: twice you're good. Yeah, and the Steelers one, but that 257 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: was what was that? That was before because they lost 258 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: to the Packers in twenty ten? So was it before 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 4: that or rob g when was that? Yeah, they won 260 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight or nine. 261 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: I know they won with because they run in Detroit 262 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: when the Super Bowls in six But I think that 263 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: was cowards last one, so I. 264 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: Think he won to beat Seattle. Was that the one? 265 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that, but I think that was Cowards and 266 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: then he went off into the sunset. Yeah, two thousand 267 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: times and then that was great. And then they lost 268 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the next year. Right, a year or two later they 269 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: walked to the Packers. Yeah, was that two years later? 270 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: I thought they won in twenty ten? No, Well, it's 271 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: always that weird super Bowl in the next year. But anyway, 272 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: my point is if I'm pitched so twice years right, 273 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: twice a couple of years later, so then, but then 274 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: it's been up a long drought for a long time. 275 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Uh and and people get restless to natives. So I'm 276 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: fully if I'm the Steelers. 277 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: Organization, and I know they don't do it because they've 278 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: had three coaches over fifty years or whatever it's been. 279 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 4: It feels like about that right. Three coaches and forty 280 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: year crazy, Yeah, maybe forty is that the right number. 281 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: But anyway, my point is unless they get to the 282 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: super Bowl, I'm ready to move off of Mike Tomlin. 283 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: I've had enough. I think you need a new voice. 284 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: Even they could even get a playoffs, win a playoff game, 285 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: and I still would be ready to move off. That's 286 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: that's why I am. And I know that sounds hard 287 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: because you go, well, you took the next step. I 288 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 4: just think that it's played out, it's it's old. There'll 289 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: be other teams that would take him overnight. He get 290 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: a job overnight. Brother ain't gonna be unemployed. Sometimes you 291 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: just need to move all off. And we saw that 292 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: with Tony Dungee. I brought that up before. Now he 293 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: wasn't there that long, but they couldn't get over the hump. 294 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay and John Gooden showed up. Now 295 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: John Gordon, other than that year, he wasn't a great 296 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: coach man. Done you a check? You remember that Rob 297 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: g showed up and then of course to play his 298 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: former team. That helped what was going on, and that 299 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: defense man. That's one of my favoriteams. They scored, they 300 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: scored more points in the opposive Dude, they would they 301 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: would get interception, running them all. 302 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: Back, dude. 303 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Derek Brooks, Warren Sack. That was That team was Farland 304 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Rendez Barber. That team was amazing. Was a Simeon Simeon 305 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Rice No, that the team was that that was insane. 306 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: It was like Miami oh one and Miami certain the 307 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Miami teams were. Okay, everybody in the entire defense is 308 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: going on that. Tim I covered that. That was the 309 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: number one offense against the number one defense. 310 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: What do they say, defense wive Championship? What the heck 311 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: is this? 312 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 313 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: Couple things? Number one. 314 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: The Steelers always tell us that the standard is a 315 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: standard and Daggy, what is the standard now? 316 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: Upper tier mid because that's what they become. Robb. 317 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: When it was sixteen games, they'd be you know, nine 318 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: are you know they'd be nine and seven eight? 319 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: You know? 320 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Now it be what ten and ten and seven or 321 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: nine and eight. That's like what they have been the 322 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: last decade or so. They've been having such bad offenses. 323 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: They've been struggling offensively, and I can see why the 324 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: fans will be like, enough is enough. We've given grace, 325 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: We've given time. We said, okay, this quarterback is young, Okay, 326 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: this one we've gotten thereon Rogers, like we've done a 327 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: multitude of things. This just ain't it. And so if 328 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: they decided to move from Mike Tomlin eighteen years in 329 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the twenty twenties and twenty tens, isn't a remarkable gig. 330 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in sports, That doesn't happen in the 331 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: world anymore. Gone other days of your father working for 332 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: IBM or the GM planning Detroit for thirty forty years, 333 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: fifty years. 334 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: This is a different area. This is the what have 335 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: you done for me lately? 336 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: Here? 337 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: And if you haven't done something in three four years, 338 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: us year out the door. So Mike Tomlin has been 339 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: elicited some grace that other coaches don't often get. So 340 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I look at this you mentioned the fans are staying, 341 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: we're used to Super Bowl being a chance, right, a 342 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: chance they had historically a chance. They had a nice 343 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: room with Ben Roethlisberger where we got to a couple 344 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls, we won one, and we were right 345 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: there on the edge. A few years they were used 346 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: to being relevant. The Steelers are no longer relevant in 347 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: a positive way, and so yes, fans are gonna boo 348 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: and I don't I think they also don't see green pasture, 349 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: like nothing looks like it's gonna get better, Like they 350 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: don't have that like all this is where we're going 351 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: in the direction. 352 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: I think it's bigger than that. 353 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: I just think like they he's been there too long 354 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: and there's no like like they'll give it a shot 355 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: and be like, yo, let's see, but after a while, 356 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: like eighteen. 357 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Years and nobody could be mad at my job. 358 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Is a real long time to be a coach, he himself. 359 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: It's not the old days where Tommy Walter Alston was 360 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: the Dodger manager and he signed twenty four one year contract, 361 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: you know, like in those days, like guys didn't go 362 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: where are they going, dude? And the Dodgers didn't win. 363 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: It didn't win all the time, you know what I mean. 364 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: But they didn't change managers like that. 365 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think Mike, Mike, the fans are fed up. 366 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: They booed him, They booed Aaron Rodgers who just came 367 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: back in the game from a broken nose. What it 368 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: looked like or at least a beat up, bloodied up nose. 369 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: And he even he even caught a stray. So fans 370 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: are just fed up in Pittsburgh for one of the 371 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: first times we've seen in a while. And they even 372 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: had you know, Aaron Rodgers had to talk about it 373 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: after the game go ahead. 374 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: We got that all. That's part of it. 375 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: You know, they pay money for a ticket, so they 376 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 6: have the right, could better indifferent to say what they want. 377 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: So I totally understand the frustration. I've been booed on offense, 378 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: even in Green Bay over the years. So is booeworthy 379 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: performance and understanding frustration right, And at least he's honest. 380 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: Like some guys they don't want to hear any boos, 381 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: like they think that we. 382 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Don't need that right now. What I like, I appreciate 383 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: him at least be keeping it right. 384 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: It was worthy of them boing me. I get it 385 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: out and even said it. I was booed in Green Bay. 386 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: Yes, And here's what we were talking about. They've had 387 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: three coaches since nineteen sixty nine. Think about what sense 388 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: for you? That is crazy, which is why no. 389 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: Twenty two years Bill Cowell fourteen fourteen Okay, so what 390 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: is that? That's thirty six and then you add another 391 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 4: eighteen for Mike Tomlin four. 392 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: That's over fifty of their three code back men your 393 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: whole life. 394 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: Think about that almost that's crazy, and again compliments to them, 395 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: but that's why they've had stability, that's why they've had 396 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: this twenty one seasons without a losing record. But at 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: a certain point, that be the standard. The standard has 398 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: to be we win super Bowls, we get to super Bowls, 399 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: we are competitive in that regard, and they're falling off 400 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: like you. 401 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: Can't even say that, like even that because they haven't 402 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: even they haven't even won a playoff game. 403 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: And since these eight nine years now, right, I think 404 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: this year would this is nine going on ten, like 405 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: almost a decade, and that can't be the case because 406 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: now you look at it as we got the Monday 407 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: night getting ready to kick off. Are the Patriots back, right, 408 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Drake may Hoo? Many years has it been rob g 409 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: just off the top of since they want to playoff 410 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: or a playoff game or or been relevant. It's been 411 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. What was it that six? 412 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: Six or seven? Is that it? Okay? Yeah? But was that? What? 413 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: Who was the quarterback. 414 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 5: Well, they made the playoffs with Mac Jones, but they 415 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: didn't win a game, that's right. And then they made 416 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 5: they won one. Not Brady's last year, the year before 417 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 5: his last year. 418 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: They want a playoff? Kay, yeah, but that's how it happened. 419 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: And before you know it, years go by, and in 420 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: this case, I mean eighteen years at the helm, I 421 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: think your voice gets stale. It doesn't mean he can't cold, 422 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that nobody cants him or whatever, but 423 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: sometimes it's time to move on. And I think if 424 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: even if I'm him, you gotta like think about it. 425 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 4: And I know it's hard to just like you've been 426 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: running the place or whatever for a long time. Nobody's 427 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: gonna push me out, but at some point you gotta 428 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: look at yourself and go, like, you know what, I 429 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: need a fresh start. I need somewhere else. And that's 430 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: a great run. 431 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: But I wonder so that I don't disagree with the 432 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: idea that he's had a run and an uncomparable I mean, again, 433 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: you don't get that run. You can win a super 434 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Bowl and be out in two years. You can win 435 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia the exactly. Then we see that like Doug Peterson. 436 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: It was like you. They said, you can do the 437 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Douggie on somewhere else. 438 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: You can go to Jacksonville and then get bounced from 439 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: there in two years. 440 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: And that serious they've been calling Serrianti's done nothing but 441 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: win at a high clip, one of all time clips 442 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: of the first five years been that goes five or. 443 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: Something, and they every week. 444 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: They're calling for him. So that so that's why I 445 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: go to your point about him leaving. That's why he 446 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: probably would not want to leave, because as long as 447 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm competitive and good, all I've known is a job. 448 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: All I've known is security, and it ain't like that 449 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: everywhere else. If he becomes available, he's going to get 450 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: his job. He would get a job anybody he would 451 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: get a job. Then he got he get a job. 452 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: Like what I'm saying is so many, so many bad coaches, 453 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: like like you ain't lying about that, There's so many. 454 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, what if he don't what if he 455 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: enjoys the stability is what I'm saying, meaning, Okay, I 456 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: take the job for them making it up the Titans, 457 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: but but I'm just got two years. 458 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: You get stale, though, don't you think that you know 459 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: there's situations it could get stale on you. 460 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: The biggest challenge for him job and relationship is not you, 461 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: it's me. You know he can run. Is that the 462 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: line run with the Steelers. It's not you, it's me. 463 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: It's me. It's me. 464 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: Just I see so much more for you girls, just 465 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: going ahead ahead. I'm sure I want to see you fly. 466 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: Somebody else will treat you way better than I can 467 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: treat you. 468 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: Can do I gotta fix me right now. 469 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: But my only point, Rob, we might not be having 470 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: this conversation if they had changed their philosophy a bit 471 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: more offensively. They have been stay offensively even before Aaron Rodgers, 472 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: like they don't have a juice in that regard. And 473 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: when I think you look at the collective of the NFL, 474 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: where teams are going, and the teams that you know 475 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: who kind of are popping, and you got you already 476 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: got the guys you knew, Josh Allens, the Lamar, the 477 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes, guys you chased. Then you got 478 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: these Drake Mads and the boat Nicks and then wherever 479 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: you want to put justin Herbert kind of in the 480 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: middle of those, like, you got a lot of guys 481 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: in your own conference that are compete. C. J. 482 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: Stroud seems to. 483 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Be coming back around, and I know about that, and 484 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: that they're looking at it like no touch. Are the 485 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Coats real like I think they're looking at it like, Man, 486 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: we can't be behind all of these teams in our 487 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: own let alone the other conference, just in our own 488 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: conference at AFC, and they don't have anything inside. Aaron 489 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: Rodgers is this last year. He doesn't look great. The 490 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: offense is struggling, can't run the ball. They were talking 491 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: about bringing him back next year. That can't be good. 492 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: So it's like what's coming down? 493 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: The pilot always depends on the finish obviously that that 494 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: will determine everything where they are. They're not out of anything. 495 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 4: As we just talked about it, that the division is 496 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: there to be had. Can you can you finish straw? 497 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: They play this? Man, they got some good games. I 498 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: mean might and and and and I'm going to Detroit 499 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: on Thursday. 500 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: That's another one. Destroyed Cowboys a good one because that's 501 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: a big one. 502 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: If the if the Lions lose that game, they're don't 503 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: have a really hard time to make their house. 504 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: Maybe that's almost a playoff game. 505 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: Seriously, well for both teams view it that way because 506 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys feel like, especially the Eagles loss, we got 507 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: a shot, you know, a long wind, and you're. 508 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 4: Gonna look at the Cowboys who think to themselves, dude, 509 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 4: look at what we've done the last few weeks. 510 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: This is winnable, like no Saint Brown right, oh no, 511 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: they look scary, dude, which I don't know what is he? 512 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: Dude? Right now? Come back? Did he laugh? 513 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: He's like, but you I'm not gonna be here. That's 514 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: the typical lions. And I'm gonna tell you why that 515 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: was a good tease. Okay, that was a good tea. 516 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it real. 517 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: Why why announced that before he has his physical? Like seriously, 518 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: like like you retired when you coming back? 519 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: They posted it too, like on their page, there's a 520 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: picture him in the tunnel. 521 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, hey, come in, let's get the physical, 522 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: let's get everything straight. And then we announced it. Everybody's excited, 523 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 4: like they they they they messed off because they jumped 524 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: the gun and you already know that the guy retired. 525 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 4: And then you got to make sure you know it 526 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 4: ain't like, oh you're coming back. Okay, you're on the team. No, 527 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: this is a physical leg stuff. There's a lot to 528 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 4: go through. So guess who welcomed them back? 529 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: The Lions could have welcome back Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson. 530 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Come on back to the I retire when I still 531 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: have something left in the tank club Megatrons to come 532 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: on over here. There's me and you and Barry great 533 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: greats who still has someff left in the tank. 534 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: But we got out lioned. We tied of the Lions. 535 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 536 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 537 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 538 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: listen live. 539 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: I tell you what, if you're the Giants, you know, 540 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: win lose. You just want to compete obviously right now. 541 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: But you got to be feeling good Jackson Dart feeling 542 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: good about Sam saying they got Jackson Dart who they 543 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: feel good in, Malik Neighbors, who was a top receiver 544 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: when he comes back. 545 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: He obviously got her early this season. 546 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: And then you got Scataboo as well coming back, like 547 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: they got some nice pieces along with some good defensive 548 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: players as well. So you got what I can't do 549 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: an acknowledgement. Why I got to tell you the next year, 550 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: I just can't. 551 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I think a team that's two and ten 552 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: and you're talking about injured because. 553 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: Their quarterback has been First of all, they started Russell Wilson, 554 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: not a few games. 555 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: That's where they went wrong. I told you that. 556 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: But their quarterback like okay, like he hadn't won any games. 557 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: I mean, my god, I get it. He's a young guy. 558 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: He's reckless out sit here and tell you that he's 559 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: not gonna have the career you think, because if he 560 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 4: canntinues to do what he's done and continues. 561 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 3: To run, he will not be a quarterback for the Giants. 562 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: In the law been a half three quarterbacks, he said 563 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: the same thing. They need to calm down, and he 564 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: learned to slight and they did. This is his first 565 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: year in the NFL. 566 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: Is first disagreeing with you. I said he needed putting 567 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: his head in there. Take he got rock, he got right, 568 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: keep doing it, keep doing it. They got to be 569 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: a quarterback. 570 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: And then they're going hammered that to no pun intended, 571 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: hammer that on his head this offseason. I mean, just 572 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: com're gonna say that because it's ro Let me tell 573 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: you why. You know why, we're creatures of habit. Okay, 574 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: so when I start. 575 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: Saying this, you want to ask me, are they gonna 576 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: be in. 577 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: The super Bowl? That's because you're a creature of habit. 578 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that for forty years. I'm not going 579 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: on the stove hand like that. They after their fans 580 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: have to be saying, hey, I like our quarterback. I 581 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: like Scataboo, I like the energy. What they are able 582 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: to do when leak neighbors is insane when he comes back. 583 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, if you're a fan of the Giants, 584 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be feeling a little bit of like, all right, 585 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: I like what we can be next year. They got 586 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: some nice pieces Defensively, they got a couple as well. 587 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Rob, not saying that the super Bowl. 588 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: What you gotta start. You gotta take anything. 589 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody more positive and more rainbows lollipops 590 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: than you. Everybody's great, everybody's gonna be great in the future. 591 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: Not at all. 592 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me look at this young guy. Yeah okay, yeah, 593 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 4: Like you sat there and you told me yeah, oh, yeah, 594 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: this guy's gonna be great. Well, I'm just saying, like, 595 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 4: what what what. 596 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: Rub rub this? So this is our company? 597 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Well, you can literally have somebody be fifteen and two 598 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: and you you find, oh, the one game they lost 599 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: even though you picked them to lose every single week. 600 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: I can come out of here and tell you I 601 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: like this person, this team, and then tell you what 602 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't like about him. Yo, they gotta give it. 603 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: A great example. I don't like the way Dan Campbell 604 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: is coaching right now, Lion's rooting for him. I can 605 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: also tell you that with you it's gang related. If 606 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: I like you, you can do nothing wrong. I actually 607 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: can be objective and come on here and tell you 608 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you will not like. 609 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: The Lions and I don't like that. I'm not even 610 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: gonna sit You're weak. 611 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: For you in the best about it, if you're a fan, 612 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: the best part about it, and the part about it 613 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: you gonna take your allowed that you're not objective. 614 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: Your best part about fan? Do you have a good 615 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: can Can you admit your fan? Your fan? I'm the Lion. 616 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: Who is anybody Lions jerseys and who is? But that 617 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: you're a fan. I'm not gonna buy that. To buy it. 618 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: We're not gonna care. You're not. You're the only one 619 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: that has a problem with you know, we know you, 620 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 3: but it don't sit in and go it's freedom. 621 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm objective, absolutely, you're the lion's part and you pick 622 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: the lions out and I can tell you. 623 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: Go to his instagram, li is one again, one again? 624 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: How are you object one? Because I I'm on the air, 625 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: so so is there a partition here? Do you listen? 626 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: Is your left ear messed up? I tell you every 627 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: week what I see, what I call it as it is. 628 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Every single week, I'll tell you whatever team we could 629 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: be talking about. I like Patrick Gohoman and I don't 630 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: like the way he's playing. I don't like the way 631 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: they're they're going right now. I can tell you, Josh Allen, 632 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't like the way that they're sold. Josh right, 633 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen lyon. I tell you every week. That's the difference. 634 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: I can tell you a team that I like, but 635 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't like what they're doing. Or I like this system, 636 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: but I don't like that you if you're in it's 637 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: gang related. I got blinders on. I can't see anything else. Hey, 638 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers suck well, well, Lamar Jackson. He went well, 639 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. That's the difference. I'm the best part about 640 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: everything is taped. 641 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: Got all. Difference between me and you is that you're rooting. 642 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: You want the Lions to win a sair. 643 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: Want to tell you that's what being a You're not 644 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: liking somebody's not being conjected. No, I don't care who wins, 645 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: but you're not. That's the difference. Don't come on here 646 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: and say no, I am from the metro Detroit area. 647 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: That's fine. I've been a fan of the Lions. That's 648 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: you're not playing well right now? Boy, just sharing off. 649 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm a fan boy, I love Detroit. Do we need 650 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: to go back to the comment? Do we need to 651 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: go back to the commons? I'm gonna because I'm not 652 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: that god, but you are not. It's okay. 653 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm inn say intervention off a Yankee fan. 654 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I've never been to tell you about your history. I'm 655 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: telling you about your president, telling you. Everybody who listens 656 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: to the show knows we just had a whole segment 657 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: and nothing but comments. 658 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: They know you ain't hiding it. I'm not work. 659 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Honest, I'm a Lions fan who is disappointed in the 660 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: way that they've been performing, Disappointed in Dan Campbell, Dan 661 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Gamble as you call him. I agree, I text you 662 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I tell the people on all the time. 663 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: He is gonna cost him several games. He continues to 664 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: not do this. I do this about the James just 665 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: sixty at a time, Lebron James. Shouldn't have did this, 666 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't have did that. The best part about this we 667 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: got podcasts, we got YouTube. Why can we any time 668 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: that we are the odd couple? 669 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: I'm you and you're a fan because I'm a reporter. 670 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: I am you're a fan. You're a fan. Keeps it 671 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: a buck. That's why. That is what I am. 672 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: Fans who keep it a buck, and I'm about to 673 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: keep it a buck about somebody else you're a fan of. 674 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: Since you want to go there, Rod, no know. 675 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: The only reason that you don't like Caleb and they'll 676 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 4: win it because this affects the Lions. This doesn't affect 677 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: That's what yesterday that they're going to win the division 678 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: and it's the reason that the Lions aren't. And that's 679 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: gonna hurt you. 680 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: The Lions don't win is because the Lions haven't played 681 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: well enough to win. 682 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: Sure, Patrick Mahomes didn't play well. They all you talked to. 683 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: What did I say every week throughout was yeah, it 684 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: made the play win. 685 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: What did I say win? That's what That's what. That's lies. 686 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: Put the camera on me, That's what every single week 687 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: when I set up here and told you, unfortunately ride, 688 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I got to agree with you. Patrick Mahomes is off 689 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: right now. Some doesn't look right right now out the 690 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: offense can't get going. Thank God for the defense. 691 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 692 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a news anchor too, right. I come 693 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: in with the facts and be objective. 694 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: Brother, you know this. 695 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: Put the camera back home. Let's talk about these bears. 696 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Let's get back to these bears. 697 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: I was sitting here saying. 698 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: They actually have a high ceiling because Kayler Williams hasn't 699 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: played well, because Kayler Williams is either middle or last. 700 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: When it comes to your TJ Houshmanjao. When he was 701 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: on don't go part, go ahead, forget it, go ahead 702 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: they right now, we all came into this season. 703 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: With Williams of Philadelphia one gotta he gotta No, I 704 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: don't have a I'm saying they're winning despite him, the 705 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: fact that the Bear. We came into the Bears saying, 706 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Kayler Williams, how's this marriage gonna work? How 707 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: is Kayler Williams gonna improve? And what it ended up 708 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: being is that Kayla Ben Johnson reminded us that what 709 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson did, despite all the sexy and Q plays 710 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: in Detroit, Ben Johnson at his core is a running 711 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: actually a running style, offensive coordinated and I think we 712 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: got reminded of that this season because they're number number 713 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: two in rushing right now, the Bears are averaging about 714 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: a buck fifty a game. And then you look at 715 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: what their defense is doing right now. They're first in takeaways. 716 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: So this team has been built between defense running the ball, 717 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: which we all get. Ben Johnson will draw up some 718 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: crazy plays, but that's the core of who he is. 719 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: And then you look at Caleb Johnson, right kaylb Williams, 720 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: who's been struggling right now, as he had fifty percent 721 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: against those Eagles. They ran the ball almost three hundred 722 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: yards and he is averaging, like his completion percentage around 723 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven percent right now, and he's at qbr is eighteen. 724 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: So they actually been winning despite what we all came 725 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: in wondering how the pairing between Caleb Williams and Ben 726 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Johnson it would be. It hasn't been great. Ben Johnson 727 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: has said we've gone in spite of the passing game. 728 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: I ain't the coach, That's what he said. And so 729 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: that's to me why it's been remarkable and to that credit, 730 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: their ceiling can be high. If Caleb Williams starts to 731 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: get it going, that would be impressive because the defense 732 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: has been spectacular. Over is getting takeawayunning game, what's the record. 733 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: It's just it's just silly, like like you could go 734 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: and hand pick whatever you want. If you watch, if 735 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: you if you if you watch the game, it's about 736 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: it's about it's about making plays. Did you watch the 737 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: game that the touchdown he threw the seal of game 738 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia? That wasn't a running play. He rolled out, 739 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: he rolled left and made up and threw a dime. 740 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: Go watch the play. He doesn't have to throw three touchdown. 741 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes threw four touchdowns. 742 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: And they lost. That's great. All I'm trying to say to. 743 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: You is that this whole idea that you worried about 744 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 4: completion percentage. It ain't got nothing to do. It's about 745 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: wins and losses and making plays. That's what the NFL is. 746 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: It's about making plays. It's about did you tackle a 747 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 4: guy or did he get by you. It's really a 748 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: really simple game. Did you catch the ball or did. 749 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: You drop it? So did you throw the touchdown when 750 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: it mattered? 751 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: How many big games did they win at the end 752 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: where he do a touchdown, I'm asking you a question. 753 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Just don't understand it. He's won three that's what has 754 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: he performed? Well, that's what I care about. 755 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: Perform second year quarterback would have coordinate absolutely. 756 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: Okay, well, his own coach. 757 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: His own coach doesn't think that, and nobody's saying again, 758 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: that's why I said the ceiling is high for them. 759 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: If he can get it right. That's why I just 760 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: said that. If he can actually get it right, they 761 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: won four games when trailing with two minutes. 762 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 3: To go in the game. He's done something right. That's 763 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 3: my point is that he has made plays to game. 764 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: So so you're two minutes to go, how about we 765 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: not be down all the time. That's that's not how 766 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 3: it goes. 767 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: And again, so my whole point is they've been able 768 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: to dominate with the defense. Caleb Williams, this is what 769 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: we're just talking. Nobody said they can't approve. That's that's 770 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: literally that's they've been able to. It's a backhanded compliment. Man, 771 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: get out here with that. 772 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: What it is he hasn't played West. He made, but 773 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: he hasn't played well. 774 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: They won four games in the final two minutes and 775 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: you're acting like he hasn't done anything. 776 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: That's not what I said. 777 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: I said he has not played great maya a professional athlete. 778 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: That's literally what we do, not it because he's being 779 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: this is come on, you at least have some consistency 780 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: because matter of factor, maybe the opposite. You do have 781 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: consistency because Matthew Stafford has been playing out of his 782 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: mind and he ain't this and he ain't that. But 783 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: then Kayler Williams, who is fifty percent passing QBR is 784 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: lower than half the league. 785 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: But he's out here playing well. Boy, I can't keep up. 786 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: I can't keep up with you. 787 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it won't make his second year, they started 788 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: out oh and two, they gave him fifty points to 789 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: the Lions and now they're nine and three. 790 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: One of the best records in that and you see 791 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of coming. 792 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 4: Your comment and your conversation is about how bad Caleb 793 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 4: Williams said, he come on, whinning's awful, that's awful.