1 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: All right, here we are Chris Brown Steve Jasper on 3 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining 4 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: us here this afternoon as the players are out on 5 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: the practice field outside today, first time in a couple 6 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: of weeks they've been out there. There was no need 7 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: to practice outside the last couple of weeks preparing for 8 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: playing at Sofi Stadium in la and then Ford Field 9 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: and Detroit, so they had been in the field house 10 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: for the better part of the last two weeks. Outdoors 11 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: today on their grass practice field, So kudos to our 12 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: local groundscrew for getting the grass cleared of snow and 13 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: anything else. 14 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: That's all they've been doing for a week and a half. 15 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: It's been snow removal here like round the clock. It's 16 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: been crazy. But it's ready ready to roll and they're 17 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: out there practicing. So remember, as soon as the media 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: viewing portion of practice ends, we will provide you with 19 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: practice updates, so we'll get those to you in short order. 20 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: We have back in that it used to this used 21 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: to be the dog days of the season. Man. Even 22 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: when you're winning a bunch of games, you go out 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and it's. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Just you guys had the practice bubble, right, wasn't here. 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: We never used it unless it was actively snowing at 26 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: the point we were going to practice, because we always 27 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: practiced down the old in the stadium in the bowl, 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: and the surface was different then and they could just 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: sweep it off. They wouldn't have you didn't have the 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: what's in it about carp right, just it's yeah, it's concrete, 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: it's carpet over ashvillt So they just brush it off 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and here we go. So we practiced in the stadium 33 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: almost exclusively, even in inclement weather, and yeah, it was 34 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's not the it's not the fun part 35 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: about being a pro athlete. 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Perhaps weather well, you know, yeah, that's kind of what 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: you sign up for. Yeah, it's interesting because in England 38 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: and some of the other European leagues, their soccer seasons 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: go from August to May. They play through the winner. 40 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Why do they do that? 41 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: That's a very good question. 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Especially in Europe where it's you know, north. 43 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, if you're in Spain, it's pretty nice all year, right, 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: even southern Italy you're not. You know, it's in the fifties, 45 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you're okay. But in England, 46 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: Ireland's stand where they have all these leagues and they 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: play through the winter. 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're out there running around in. 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Shorts and some the summer is winter. 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 52 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's why a lot of those 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: newer soccer stadiums over there, because they only play on grass, 54 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: they don't play on turf. They have those heated coil 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: systems underneath the grass, so the ground never freezes and 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: the ground's crew can continue to grow the grass even 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: through the winter months, right, because I think if anybody 58 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: around here has a lawn, they know the grass stops 59 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: growing around Halloween, and if it's not growing, it's hard 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: to maintain the quality of the grass. So that's what 61 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: new Hi Mark Stadium's gonna have. They're gonna have a 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: heated coil system underneath the grass surface and it will 63 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: keep the ground from freezing number one, and by keeping 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: it warm, they can extend the growing season all through 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: at least through the end of the NFL season, you know, 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: end of January. Over there in Europe they do it 67 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: year round. 68 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: They just keep it. 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: See some video of some stadiums and how they grow 70 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the grass, and I think I don't. I don't think 71 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it was fake. They had like tears of like one 72 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: end of the stadium would open up and there's. 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: A huge So you're thinking, yeah, you're thinking of Tottenham 74 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Stadium where the Bills played last year, because they signed 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: up to be NFL compliant when they built the stadium. 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: So they have a turf field that they use for 77 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: American football, and then that goes down into a pit, 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: slides out, and the grass field slides out from under 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: the grand stand on one sideline. While it's under there, 80 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: hydroponic lamps exactly. 81 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: They got lamps for it. It grows grass in the dark. 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: A lot of money to do that. 83 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Let's go. 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: There. They are serious about playing on and I'll say. 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: This too that their grass surfaces are not fit for football. 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean American will tear it up. 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: Football players would tear it up. 88 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: American football players and their games rip it apart because 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: they they clip it extremely close. It's cut short, short, 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: like it's not like Wimbledon's tennis courts, not like not 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: like a green. But it really does get ripped up 92 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and in fact, you have to wear different I remember 93 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: when we went over to practice. 94 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 95 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: For when we played in Wimbley and in in Olympic 96 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Stadium in Germany, you had to wear different shoes because 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: of the grass surface. It was we were sliding all 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: over the place. 99 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: I will tell you there have been a handful of 100 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: soccer clubs who, when facing a team that they knew 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: was faster than them, might skip a grass cutting or 102 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: two because it would slow the ball down and make 103 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: that team easier to defend. 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, gamesmanship. 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does happen in the beautiful in the beautiful game, 106 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: in the beautiful game. 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, wow, think about it. 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: So there you go. 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: Moving forward, though, we got to talk about American football first. 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I'll give you the lineup for today's show. Bottom of 112 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: the hour will be joined by ESPN NFL insider and 113 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: fantasy football analyst Field Yates with his ultimate fantasy lineup 114 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: for week sixteen. So we'll get that from him at 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. Get his thoughts, probably too, 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: on Bill's Patriots. I mean he's living up there in 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: New England. He's got his ear to the ground on 118 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: New Englands. He might ask him a questions you about 119 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: that as well. Second hour of the show, the Hall 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: of Famer will be here Thurman Thomas, so we'll catch 121 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: up with Therm and he's got to be excited about 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: what the running backs did for this offense last week. 123 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Huh, we're gonna huh, We're gonna sit here and listen 124 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: to this he's left. Because think about it too. The 125 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: atmosphere like not only the Bills running backs carrying the 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: load against the number one NFC team in the league, 127 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: but also around the league with Saquon Barkley doing what 128 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: he's doing and Henry doing what he's doing. Them's gonna 129 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: be all fat and happy coming in here. Hey man. 130 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: James Cook has thirteen rushing touchdowns on the season. He 131 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: needs only three more to tie Oj Simpson for the 132 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: most rushing touchdowns in a single season. He has sixteen 133 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: and nineteen seventy five. 134 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: He's near the league leaders anyways, right behind Henry. 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right behind Derek. Henry tied for second in the 136 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: league with. 137 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Thirteen, so he's hanging right there with him. Yeah, it's 138 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: been great. 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: Of course, Josh is sneaking up too, because he's got eleven. 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Now right we're running. The Bills are running for a 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: ton of. 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have touchdown I think they have twenty eight 143 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns this year, which leads the league. So they 144 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: are crushing it on the ground in the red zone 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: because most of those have been in in close. I mean, 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Cook has a forty nine yarder, the forty one yarder 147 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: last week, and a sixty five yard are on the 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: ground against the Niners, so he's got three long ones, 149 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: but most of them have been from in close, most 150 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: of them. Josh had the twenty six yarder against the 151 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Chiefs at the end of the game on fourth and two, 152 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: but a lot of them have been in the low red. 153 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: Zone this season, so that's probably only the numbers I'm 154 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: looking at. Derrick Henry's got fifteen touchdowns, but thirteen of 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: them are rushing. Cook has fourteen tds, thirteen of them 156 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: are also rushing, and Josh is tied for fourth in 157 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: the league behind Cook with twelve. He and Josh has 158 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: as many as Joe Mixon does. So gid y up, 159 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go, and then you go all the 160 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: way down the list, and then way down the list 161 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: is Ray Days with five. He's tied four twenty ninth. 162 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: But every I think every Bill's running back has at 163 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: least one receiving touchdown. 164 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: Mc collins got five touchdowns. 165 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: But every Bill's running back has at least one receiving 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: touchdown too, so that's kind of cool. This week's game 167 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: against the Patriots is presented by Saint Bonaventry University. Visit 168 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: Saint Bonaventure today. It just might be the right place 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: for you right from the start. Go to www dot 170 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: SBU dot edu slash visit to schedule a campus tour. 171 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: Saint Bonaventure University the Intersection of Heart and Mind. So 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: we will get you some practice updates here shortly. But 173 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: there was a roster transaction today on the practice squad 174 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: side of the roster. They re signed Casey two Hill 175 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: to the practice squad and released defensive tackle Ilianku to 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: make room for him there. If you remember, earlier in 177 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: the week, Casey two Hill was released from the active 178 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: roster to make room for rookie offensive tackle Tyland Grabil, 179 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: who was healthy and ready to come off injured reserve, 180 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: where he had been all season long. Practically, he got 181 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: hurt back in Week three against the Jaguars when he 182 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: got some playing time. Because the Bills were so far 183 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: up on the Jags, they took a lot of their 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: starters out of the game. He came in and played 185 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: and then suffered a core muscle injury which I believe 186 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: required surgery. So he had been out since late September 187 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: and finally comes back here in mid December. 188 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: You think the stuff they're doing with Ankou two Hill 189 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: has anything to do with with our boy Solomon, I 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: think so. 191 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: I mean Dwan Smooth is back too, right, he came 192 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: back off ir So they're a little heavy at defensive 193 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: end and can move, and I think I think they 194 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: want a little more depth at defensive tax. So if 195 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: you look at their roster and how it's currently constituted, 196 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: you've got day Kwon Jones, Ed Oliver, Jordan Phillips, Dwayne Carter, 197 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: and you also have Quentin Jefferson and Austin Johnson. So 198 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: you've got six defensive tackles now, and I don't think 199 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: that's by accident and because of that, and you still 200 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: you still have five defensive ends if you count Von 201 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Miller in the group. He's listed as a linebacker, but 202 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: he plays defensive end. So yeah, you've got twelve or sorry, 203 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: eleven defensive linemen on the roster right now, if you 204 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: count Vaughn who's listed as a linebacker, but we all 205 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: know where he lines up in place. So eleven defensive 206 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: linemen on the roster twelve is a little too fat, 207 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: and I think that's why two Hill was moved off 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: the roster. And I think on offense, you'd like to 209 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: have The Bills went into the season in Week one 210 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: with four offensive tackles. You know Grabel at the beginning 211 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: of the season, for those that don't remember, he won 212 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: the swing tackle job, beat out Ryan Vandermark for that, 213 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: and then Ryan Vandermark was your fourth tackle that was 214 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: on the roster. So they're back to four tackles now. Fortunately, 215 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: they had gotten through this last three months with only 216 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: three true offensive tackles. Now they have four again, which 217 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: is where the roster was at the beginning of the year. 218 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: So I can promise you Aaron Kromer, the offensive line coach, 219 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: is all too happy that he's got his full complement 220 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: of depth on the edges now with four offensive tackles. 221 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: And plus the guys that they thought they were going 222 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: to start the season with in there. Yeah, Tyland Grabel 223 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: is an interesting story right now. He's back on that 224 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: they waited on him. I mean, yeah, they liked what 225 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: they saw early on in this camp. 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: He's an extraordinary athlete, you know. For his six foot 227 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: six player that plays out on the edge of tackle. 228 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: He's got great feet. This is a guy who was 229 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: a former high school quarterback. So right, just to kind 230 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: of paint the picture a little bit, we also have 231 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: this to pass along to you. The legend of the 232 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: game for Sunday's four to twenty five start is former 233 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: Bills defensive end Marcellus Wiley, better known as Wild Style. 234 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: That was his nickname. Anyway, this week's legend of the game. 235 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: So the legend of the game is presented by the 236 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: BFLO Store and official retailer of the Buffalo Bills. And 237 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: for those that are too young to remember Marcellus Wiley's. 238 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: Career, a teammate of mind is a. 239 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: Teammate of yours just starting his career when yours was 240 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: wrapping up. I want to say it was the ninety yes, 241 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: ninety six draft, I believe. So he was second round 242 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: pick in the ninety sixth draft out of Columbia where 243 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: he was defensive end. And I'll never forget I had 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: a conversation with him as a young player and I said, 245 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: how are you learning, you know, from Bruce Smith about 246 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: the art of rushing the passer? And he said, well, 247 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: I've learned some helpful things from Bruce. He goes, but 248 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: there are some things that Bruce does that I tried 249 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: to do and I fall on the ground. He is saying, 250 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: you know, Bruce, when he runs the hoop, you know, 251 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: and he basically is at a forty five degree angle 252 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: and looks like a motorcyclist going around to turn in 253 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: a race. He goes, I can't do that. I fall 254 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: down when I try to do that. So there were 255 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: certain things that Marcella's just realized, well, that's all well 256 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: and good Bruce, but you're one of one. I can't 257 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: do that. I'm going to try something else. 258 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: So Marcellus was an impressive looking dude. He had all 259 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: yeah physical tools. He was an absolute stud. 260 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: And fortunately for him, he had a ten sack season 261 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: in the last year of his rookie deal and made 262 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: a pile of money signed with the Chargers, big money deal. 263 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: He is a smart obviously smart guy going to Columbia, 264 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: had all of that going for him. Big physical dude. Yeah, 265 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: he was a and he was a great teammate really 266 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: great teammates and hilarious. Yeah, he's a great guy. And 267 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: now you see him all he has a media presence 268 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: now obviously a national media presence. He's it's not he's 269 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: not all fluff. The guy could really play. And I'm 270 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: glad he's coming back. That'll be great. 271 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: Yes, him and Pat Williams were two of the younger 272 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: players in that locker room and they were thicke as thieves. Yeah, 273 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: that was a fun defensive line because you had some 274 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: veteran players like Phil Hansen and obviously Bruce Ted Washington, 275 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: and then you had some young guys like Pat Williams 276 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: and Marcellus Wiley. It was a good group. They had 277 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: a good group up front in that three four underweight Phillips. 278 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: So it was a fun It's a fun group for sure. 279 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: And you know, unfortunately they did not hang on to 280 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: marsw Wiley or Pat Williams. You know, Marcellus left for 281 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: a big money deal because the bills were really bad 282 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: up against the cap, trying to hold on to a 283 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: lot of the veterans and they couldn't afford Marcellus. And 284 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: then a couple of years later, Pat Williams left for Minnesota. 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: And have a fantastic career in Minnesota. 286 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: That's right. And after Bruce went to Washington, and that's 287 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: what led to the beginning of the Dark days because 288 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: for about ten years the Bills couldn't stop the run 289 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: or rush the passer because they let the young guys 290 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: that were up and coming sign big money deals elsewhere. 291 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: And then the veterans aged out, and boy we had 292 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: some We're wandering through a dark and stormy forest for years. 293 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Large, very wide desert that the Bills. 294 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Entered into that and there were no oasis to speak of. 295 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: What's the plural of oasis? Oases? Is that how you 296 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: would say itai? Es would be the plural, right, because 297 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: oasis is the singular. 298 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: We have ai for that. 299 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna have to. I want to 300 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: check that. I was always curious. 301 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, sure everybody's riveted to the multiple oases oases, and 302 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: it might be right. 303 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: It might be I think I might have that. 304 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: We'll find out in the break and if it's worth 305 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: telling you, we will not forget about. 306 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: And if I'm right, how proud will my English teacher 307 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: be of me? I mean, I'm just. 308 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Saying, how proud will you be? 309 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: If you're well half the time, I'm a shot in 310 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: the dark with some of that. 311 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: That's right. 312 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: We have to go around the NFL, which is presented 313 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, 314 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: and we'll begin with one of our favorite people, Steve 315 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: good Old Aaron Rodgers. 316 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say that. I knew it. 317 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: He stated that he is undecided on his future, but 318 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: indicated his decision won't be influenced by the Jets plans. 319 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: I got news for you, Aaron going to be very 320 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: influenced by the Jets plans, because if they don't include you, 321 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be there. Can he be that naive? 322 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it. I don't think he 323 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: was saying whether he plays for the Jets or not. 324 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: I think he's saying whether he wants to continue his 325 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: career or not. 326 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he's not opposed to the idea of 327 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: helping develop a highly drafted quarterback. He said on the 328 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show this week, when they drafted Jordan Love 329 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: in Green Bay, I felt like I was one bad 330 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: stretch from being benched, and I won MVP A couple 331 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: of years in case you forgot. So that's the way 332 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: the league is. You have to prove he can play 333 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: every single week and through stretches. So if the Jets 334 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: asked me back and they drafted a guy, I'd mentor 335 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: the halout of him if I was playing, and I'd 336 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: try to play as well as I could to keep 337 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: him on the bench. So he's thinking, this is what 338 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: he's thinking. If they keep me here, draft a quarterback 339 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: in round one, I'm still playing. I mean, that's what 340 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: that sentence means. Oh, of course, absolutely, I'm still playing. 341 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: And if they're gonna help him, I'll help him. But 342 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: I'm playing. 343 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: They let him play, They let him play. You've got it, Yes, 344 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: he's yes, in fact, you do everything you can to 345 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: help him play well, and you hope you hope he does. 346 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. You're cheap on the cheap that 347 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: he's doing the right. He's right in this. That's his 348 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: best shot. 349 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: Now, well, yes, there are other teams that need quarterbacks. 350 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he wants to stay right there in New 351 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: York and he wants to mentor. He wants the Jets 352 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: to get a guy he can mentor. So that makes 353 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: him useful because if they're gonna They're not gonna go 354 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: into next year with just him. And if he's already said, listen, 355 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you make this guy successful. That's all 356 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: they want to hear. He's absolutely posturing. 357 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to know why, because he's doing thirty 358 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: five million dollar option bonus in twenty twenty five. 359 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: Well, if the Jets are small, if they won't do that, 360 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: I can't see them paying. No, they'll cut them and 361 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: then hey, you want to come back, we'll let you 362 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: come back. 363 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: I think they're paying that. I mean, if the Jets, 364 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this. If the Jets are smart, 365 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: I can't even say without laughing. If the Jets are smart, 366 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: they would just tear up the contract and release them 367 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: and say, look happy to sign you back at less money. Right, 368 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: but we can't do text. We can't do this, that's right. 369 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: And then and then if he says why, I would say, 370 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: did you see how you look last season? 371 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: We're not going to you're a bridge quarterback now, We're 372 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: not going to pay you that kind of money. We 373 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: appreciate what you've done for. 374 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: I want to get more. 375 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: Find somebody else appreciate the effort. You've put forth force 376 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: even though it came to nothing. And if you want 377 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: to come back and help us mentor this guy awesome, 378 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you do it, but you better 379 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: play good or he's playing in front of you. 380 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: And just to give you an idea on what a 381 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: mess the Jets are at the very top of the organization, 382 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: there was a report out from a Jets reporter this 383 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: week that said last offseason, Joe Douglas then GM he's 384 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: since been fired, had a deal in the works with 385 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos to acquire wide receiver Jerry Judy for 386 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: the Jets offense, and Joe Douglas brings it to owner 387 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: Woody Johnson. He nixes the deal, reportedly because Jerry Judy's 388 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: wait for it, Madden rating was too low. The owner 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: of the Jets is determining whether trades should be consummated 390 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 2: based on the Madden rating of a player. The Madden 391 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: rating that's maddening is what that is? Gosh, that's called 392 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: a meddling owner, and meddling owners usually deep six their 393 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: team because they don't know enough about player personnel to 394 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: make informed decisions. More often than not. Now you know 395 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: I would say Jerry Jones, back in his heyday, having 396 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: played college football himself, you know, as a guard at Arkansas, 397 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: you know, has some semblance of a feel for what 398 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: makes a good player, particularly an offensive lineman per se 399 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Woody Johnson. I don't even know if he's ever thrown 400 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: a football. 401 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, also in his backyard. And one of the things 402 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: about that, when Jerry got started in Dallas, he had 403 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: his buddy, you know, Jimmy Johnson, who did know, and 404 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: said here's how we're going to do it. And Jerry said, okay, 405 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: let's go. And that was the way it went for 406 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: a long time. And that's why they split up because 407 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Jerry started to learn more and no more and have 408 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: more stronger opinions. I knew everything, and yeah, and then 409 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: those two split up. But uh, this is not that. 410 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 411 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: He hired me. 412 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: You hire general managers to be your personnel experts. 413 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: That's correct. 414 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: Yes, they should come to you just for to get 415 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: you to say off and approve on it. Ask a 416 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: question or two if you want to, and if you're 417 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: vehemently against it for some other reason besides their ability 418 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: to play football, then weigh in. But other than that, 419 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: you hired those guys to make your team better. Let them, 420 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: and he does not at every turn seemingly. And if 421 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: he's relying on Madden ratings, I think it's a strong 422 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: indication that he does not know anything about the quality 423 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: of personnel around the league or even on his own roster. 424 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm not Yeah, I mean I can't. We 425 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: can't get into I mean, yes, there's no reason to 426 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: take video ratings videos on your personnel decisions in real life. 427 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: Can you believe you just said that sentence. 428 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe I had to listen. Here's the thing. 429 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: It's fun. There's no doubt about it is fun. All 430 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: of us do it because it is fun. All of 431 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: us sit out there and say, well, we should have 432 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: gotten this guy now. I mean we we got a 433 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: whole show around that in the offseason, people saying, wet's 434 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: draft this guy, Let's do this, Let's take this guy, 435 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: Let's make this guy look like that guy. Let's take 436 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: this guy because he's better than that guy. That's what 437 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: we was fun. It's and it's also fun even if 438 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: you're worth a bunch of billions of dollars, it's still fun. 439 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: The problem is. 440 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: He can actually make those changes. 441 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: He can make those changes and they happen in reality, 442 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: or that he can stop them from happening. You know, 443 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: well we see. I mean, look, I mean, look at 444 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears there. The NFC North is going to 445 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: set the NFL record for the highest winning percentage of 446 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: an entire division's teams the Bears and the Bears are 447 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: four and they're four and ten. 448 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: We're gonna set this record despite the fact that we 449 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: have to do the Bears d right, the Bears are 450 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: and they you know, it's just so horrible. 451 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: So, yeah, the Jets are yet again getting absolutely dragged 452 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: in social media and popular media and sports media and 453 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: any other kind of social media you want to get. 454 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 1: They are absolutely getting dragged today for the way for 455 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: what has been reported about how they're making decisions over there. 456 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: It is just yeah, it's so I mean, Brownie and 457 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: I talk about this so much. It's all. I'm almost 458 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: the point where it's like, wow, man, I feel bad 459 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: for their fans, you know. I mean, it's one thing 460 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: to go through a drought like the Bills did, where 461 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: you get the idea, at least they're doing doing as 462 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: much as they can with what they got. I mean 463 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: you said it self sabotage is their mascot. 464 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: What what should that look like? What should the self 465 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: sabotage mascot looked like? 466 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: It would look like a like a wily coyote dynamite plunger. 467 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: That is an excellent judge. 468 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Just when he you got everything they set, they set 469 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: the explosives. They're waiting for him to come by, and 470 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: they've got it all set up. It's gonna be perfect. 471 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: And when he pushes the plunger, the plunger blows up, 472 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: not the dynamite. 473 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I'll give that to you, I think. Yeah, 474 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: I was thinking similarly. 475 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: I was. 476 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: I was picturing like a giant bomb with a fuse 477 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: running low. That should be the mascot for the Jets 478 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: going forward. We'll see, I mean, maybe they'll take submissions. 479 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: Who knows. 480 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs are activating Hollywood Brown, the wide 481 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: receiver who's been out since pretty much Week one with 482 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: a sternoclavical injury that required surgery. So he is back. 483 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Sterno Claver stern O clovicular injury. 484 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, I probably mispronounced that the first time. I am 485 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: not a doctor. 486 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Stern clavicular. Yeah. Do I have one of those? 487 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: I think we do. I hope so otherwise people might. 488 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: I have a stern and a clavicle. 489 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: And I think it's where it connects. That's a guest. 490 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: Do they connect? 491 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 492 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I think so. 493 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: Your collar bone is your right you're clavical. 494 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: That sounds bad. 495 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that happened on the first play of the 496 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: first preseason game way back in August. So he had 497 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: surgery and has been in rehab since. But he practiced 498 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: last week and it looks like he's gonna get activated 499 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: off injured reserve and he's going to play Saturday against 500 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: the Texans. 501 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: So that's good. 502 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there with him and then Steve. 503 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: Our favorite farce of the year, the Pro Bowl. The 504 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: NFL is adding get ready are you ready for this? 505 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: The NFL is adding to some of the things we've 506 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: already seen, like a flag football game and a seven 507 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: on seven, they're adding a game show, a game, and 508 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: a punting contest to its Pro Bowl skills competitions. In February, 509 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: the league announced the full list of challenges, including tug 510 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: of War and dodgeball. Dodgeball basically the Pro Bowl games 511 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: have turned into like a beach party. That's really what 512 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: it is. 513 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I went to the Pro Bowl and got a busted 514 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: bone in a Pro Bowl. 515 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: It's it's not what it used to be. 516 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and played with it. 517 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: The games are taking place at the University of Central Florida. 518 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: We were we were so stupid in my day. What 519 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: were we doing. Then these guys are getting paid and 520 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: they're getting playing dodgeball? So the game I do and 521 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: covered kicks. 522 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a dope, Well not really out of it. 523 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: You got a Pro Bowl MVP, right, and I still 524 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: got the little I got the acrylic trophy in my house. Yeah, 525 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: it's in my attic. That really didn't mean hit that. 526 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: So the game show, because I know you're wondering, it's 527 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: called Helmet Harmony. So it's a game show that's going 528 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: to test players knowledge of their teammates, riveting stuff. 529 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: So I'll say this. They they're trying, they're yes, you 530 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: need to come up with an idea that will be 531 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: that the players will want to be a part of. 532 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: It will be something that that's competitive. Obviously you don't. 533 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: They don't. They're done risking their bodies. They've been doing 534 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: it for four six months. I have long been a 535 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: proponent of like, you know, its just some like a 536 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: slow pitch softball game or a golf match, or even 537 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: if it's just a meet and greet a beach party. 538 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: You know. 539 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a little surf and turf, get. 540 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Them all liquored up, and then see what they have 541 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to say. You know what it's like when they're when 542 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: they're yards down, right, who can keep their wits about 543 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: them the long kind of like drunk history, right, do 544 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: something that is compelling to watch that might work or 545 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: you know. 546 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: Or I can't see the union signing off on that though. 547 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: Just call me crazy man, maybe, but still it's hard 548 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: to because people forget and I remind you all the time. 549 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm the guy who's like harps on this all the time. Man, 550 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: it's hard to play. It hurts, hurts, And they're done, man, 551 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: they're just done. Even and even teams like the Jets 552 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: and the Patriots who aren't going to be in the 553 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: playoffs and they've got a month to get off those guys. 554 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: Like I remember, we had a year or two of those. 555 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: I was in eighty ninety. Yeah, so a couple of 556 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: them where we were out and it was like, you 557 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: know what, I'm kind of yeah, I feel good. Let's 558 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: you know go. But I've been sitting around for a month, 559 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, just working out. These guys are like they're 560 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: they're still sore. 561 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, they're playing an extra regular season game now. Now, 562 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: then you guys played. 563 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Well, I played in the Super Bowl and then went 564 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: straight to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, so that's different. 565 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: That is different. 566 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: So I understand that it's between the championship game and 567 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl's which is a plus. That's where it 568 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: should be. But they should put it in the super 569 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: Bowl city. 570 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: We got to take a break. That's around the NFL 571 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Healthy, Official Healthcare System of the Buffalo. 572 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Bill's topic of discussion for you today what will be 573 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: the biggest factor in a Bill's win over the Patriots. 574 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls at eight oh three oh 575 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: five fifty as we have open lines for you. But 576 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: when we come back, we've got Field Gates joining us 577 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: with his ultimate fantasy lineup for Week sixteen, presented by FanDuel. 578 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that. It's coming your way next here 579 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Line. All right back here on One 580 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and joining us now 581 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: ESPN NFL Inside of Fantasy Football analyst Field Yeats, who 582 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: has this week's ultimate Fantasy lineup for Week sixteen, presented 583 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: by Fandel, an official partner the Buffalo Bills. Download the 584 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: app today and make every moment more good afternoon, Field 585 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: were ready. 586 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: To roll, gentlemen, Good afternoon, very much ready to roll. 587 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 6: Happy holidays to you and everybody watching. Looking forward to 588 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 6: a great game on Sunday evening. Now a little rare 589 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 6: one to four twenty five flex. I feel like you 590 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 6: don't see it that often in the NFL, but I'm 591 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 6: imagining the league once as many spotlight games. But we're 592 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 6: Buffalo right now. Given the stakes of a team being 593 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 6: eleven to three. 594 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with Josh being having the season he 595 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: is and being the front runner for that award, I think, yeah, 596 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: they want to show him off, and yeah it's easy 597 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: to see why. 598 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, totally. 599 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 600 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: All right, Well, he's not the quarterback you're going to 601 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: feature in your Week sixteen lineup, but this guy has 602 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: racked up a fair amount of points for fantasy owners 603 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: all season long. You're gonna stick him in your daily lineup? 604 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, guys, you know, it's tempting 605 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 6: to just put Josh and you're a daily lineup every 606 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 6: single week with the way that he is playing right now. 607 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: But in the interest of a couple of curve ball, 608 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 6: let's go to Baker Mayfield here, who was excellent last week. 609 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 6: Fantastic for the Bucks in a big win over the Chargers. 610 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 6: They just harved that defense up, and Baker had kind 611 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 6: of hit a little bit of a rut relative to 612 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 6: where he was for the first let's call it ten 613 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 6: weeks of the season, had a month where he wasn't 614 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 6: quite as productive. But great week last week, and what 615 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 6: a matchup it is on Sunday Night football. 616 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 7: The Cowboys playing. 617 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 6: Better defensively for sure, but a banged up secondary that 618 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 6: of course, is without Trevon Diggs for the rest of 619 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 6: this season. 620 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 7: Good opportunity for Baker Mayfield. 621 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 6: With Mike Evans now back into the lineup and Jalen McMillan. 622 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 6: They're a rookie third round pick with thirteen targets over 623 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 6: the past two games, a couple of intriguing pieces around 624 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield to give this an opportunity to be a 625 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 6: big scoring night. 626 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: And Interestingly, as we you know, we do this every week. 627 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: You don't have any double ups for your quarterback wide receivers. 628 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're sticking away this week, but we do have 629 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 6: some interesting pix and running back, which is where we're 630 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 6: gonna start, and I'm spending this week and two guys 631 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: who might have an identical role on Sunday, Chase Brown 632 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 6: from the Bengals and then also Jamiir Gibbs from the Lions. 633 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 6: So Baker was priced at eighty one hundred dollars, We're 634 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: going to continue to pour some big money in early 635 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 6: eighty two hundred bucks goes to Chase Brown and eighty 636 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 6: three hundred dollars is the price for Jamier Gibbs. And 637 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 6: as you guys know, Chase Brown has been a revelation 638 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: for Cincinnati this season. And it's not just because he's talented. 639 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 6: It's also because he's been playing basically one hundred percent 640 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 6: of the snaps for Cincinnati since the injury to Zach Moss. 641 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 6: We have seen a ton of Chase Brown, both as 642 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 6: a runner and a receiver. 643 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 7: He has been a. 644 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 6: Full time starter for the Bengals for about a half 645 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 6: dozen games now. We've been a top ten scoring running 646 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 6: back in each of those games, so a great role there. 647 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: And then you guys saw this Lion's team just last week, 648 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 6: last Sunday, four days ago. That team obviously has a 649 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 6: lot of talent, but a lot of talent has gone 650 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 6: outdoor because of injury, including David Montgomery, who's now out 651 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 6: for some period of time at least this week, and 652 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 6: that means Shamir Gibbs is gonna be the busiest running 653 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 6: back not named Chase Brown at all of fantasy football. 654 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 6: Gibbs last year had three games in which there was 655 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 6: no David Montgomery. One of them was early in the season, 656 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 6: Week three. Then there were two late season games and 657 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 6: basically by that point of the year, Detroit had earned 658 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 6: the trust or he had earned the Troy the trust 659 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 6: of Detroit had Jamiir Gibbs, and he saw nearly thirty 660 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 6: carries or thirty touches per game in those two late 661 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 6: season efforts. Well, here we are deja bou all over again. 662 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 6: They're gonna need that from Jamiir Gibbs. And by the way, 663 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 6: this team has not sealed anything, not just the number 664 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 6: one seed is not done, but the NFC North is 665 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 6: not done. So they're gonna need him to be as 666 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 6: good as he possibly can. 667 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: All right, And then wide receivers, you got a Bill 668 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: in the lineup, and there actually is one double up 669 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: with there, but he looks like more of the budgetary 670 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 2: choice as you went big spending right in the middle 671 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 2: of your receiver line up here. 672 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct. We'll start with the Bill here, right, 673 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 6: We've got to start with the Bill, and that's Whulshakir. 674 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 7: And you know, you guys, we've. 675 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 6: Been talking about this since preseason, right, that guy, Khalil 676 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 6: Shakir has just been awesome and underrated. He's just a 677 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 6: fantastic player. And he has eight straight games with seven 678 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 6: targets or more. It's clear he is the guy that 679 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 6: Josh trusts the most. Although these days Josh can throw 680 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 6: it's probably me and find his way to three hundred 681 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 6: passing yards any game. Kicking enough of the way that 682 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 6: Josh is playing right now. But Shakir so SETI so solid. 683 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 6: And this Patriots defense, you know, and I'm not going 684 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 6: to tell you the Patriots are great these past couple 685 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 6: of years, but you guys, tell me if this defense 686 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 6: without Bill Belichick scared you nearly as much as that 687 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 6: defense with Bell Belichick did because I'd argue done. So 688 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 6: I'm not scared of the matchup at all for kalishak 689 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 6: Heir this upcoming weekend. Justin Jefferson is that wide receiver 690 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 6: Brad that you're referring to, the high priced one ninety 691 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 6: one hundred dollars. A good opportunity here against Seattle, the 692 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 6: defense that has been a bit more vulnerable against receivers 693 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 6: this year in fantasy. But ninety one hundred bucks, he 694 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 6: had a lot of money for Jefferson. He's playing a 695 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 6: lot of It's been a lot. He's spent a lot 696 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 6: of targets of late. Remember there was that that that 697 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 6: five or six game stretch whe Jefferson had no touchdowns 698 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: and you're thinking of yourself, what's going on with this guy? 699 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 7: He's back, he is back. 700 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 6: Looked great Monday night, had those seven catches, had the 701 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: receiving touchdown. Sam Darnold playing well for much of this season, 702 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 6: should be locking on the Justin Jefferson again this upcoming 703 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 6: Sunday in Seattle. And then finally, here is the second 704 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 6: half of that stack. It is Janelen McMillan of the 705 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay Buccaneers he's priced to just fifty eight hundred bucks. 706 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 6: He's now the wide receiver two in Tampa thirteen targets 707 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 6: over the past couple of games. He also has three 708 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 6: receiving touchdowns over these past two games. So give me 709 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 6: some Jalen McMillan is my last wide receiver option. 710 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: And then of course the flex. You got a raider 711 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: the tight end spot, yeah, the tightest spot, and on 712 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: the flex spot. 713 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, So tight end we're going to Brenton Strange. And 714 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 6: you guys know, the Jaguars have been hit hard with 715 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 6: injuries as of a lot of teams during this time 716 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 6: of the year. But Strange last week had eleven catches. 717 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 7: He's been stepping in. 718 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 6: For Evan Ingram, who's now an injured reserve. He's got 719 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 6: a torn labram. He's out for the rest of this season. 720 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 6: But Strange a second round pick on the Penn State 721 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 6: So this is not nothing right. This is a player 722 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 6: who they made a legitimate investment in last year. But 723 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 6: he steps into that starting role. You know, he did 724 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 6: play four games in places at Evan Ingram early on 725 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 6: in the season. 726 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 7: He had just twelve catches in those four games. 727 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 6: But this offense is very different with Mac Jones at 728 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 6: the control panel as opposed to Trevor Lawrence, much more conservative, 729 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 6: much more sort of centrally located on Brian Thomas Junior 730 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 6: and whoever is left over in this passing game, including 731 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 6: Brenton s Trange. So we'll go there, just fifty two 732 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 6: hundred bucks in a good matchup against the Raiders who 733 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 6: have struggled against the posing tight end this season. 734 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so then flex is also the Las Vegas Jacksonville game, 735 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: as is your defense. 736 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 6: That's right, So let's go to a mir Abdullah as 737 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 6: the flex option here, guys. And you know when there 738 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 6: was no Zamir White and no Sincere McCormick playing a lot, 739 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 6: it was really the Alexander Madison show previously. But a 740 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 6: mere Dula just keeps taking plays for this Raiders offense. 741 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 6: So I think that Madison will lead them and carries, 742 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 6: but anytime they are either in the third down or 743 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 6: picking the pace up a bit, don't be surprising to 744 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 6: mirror Abdullah on the field. So yes, I would just 745 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 6: say generally a decent floor here for a mir Abdullah, 746 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 6: And then you are correct, we are paying down on 747 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 6: defense and just trying to get some skin in the 748 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 6: game in this one. A mirordula, by the way, price 749 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 6: at fifty one hundred bucks, which brings us to our defense. 750 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 6: We've got three thousand, six hundred bucks left to spend, 751 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 6: so we decided to go to the bargain bind and 752 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 6: continue to tap into that game with the Jaguars. D 753 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 6: you know you guys saw well you yes, I've seen 754 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 6: both of these offenses all season, right, I don't want 755 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 6: of them. Scare you, no, And so what you're trying 756 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 6: to avoid is an opposing offense going off for thirty 757 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: plus fantasy points. 758 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 7: So we're doing exactly this. 759 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 6: We're paying down, We're not too concerned about the price, 760 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 6: about the matchup here, and feeling pretty good about the opportunity. 761 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: All right, So we got a minute here field Bill's Patriots. Obviously, 762 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: fans are concerned about a letdown after facing the top 763 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: team in the NFC and getting a nice win on 764 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: the road, but division games tend to kind of keep 765 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: teams focused in general. I'm thinking this one might you know, 766 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: it might be a little tight early, but the Bill 767 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: should pull away here based on what we've seen from 768 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: the Patriots. 769 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not convinced on that one. Brownie. 770 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: This one. 771 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 6: This one might be thirty five to three at halftime. 772 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 6: This Patriots team came up of a bye last week 773 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 6: and went to Arizona, and they looked like they were 774 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 6: ready for the off season. The preparation for this team 775 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 6: has been consistently unimpressive. I understand the Patriots under Bill 776 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 6: Belichick in the last couple of years regress record wise 777 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 6: last year specifically there were eight and nine a year prior. 778 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 6: But you guys know, generally speaking, they came out ready 779 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 6: generally speaking, right, and they were gonna give you some fits. Defensively, 780 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 6: Josh had to at least think not the same Patriots defense. 781 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 6: The quarterback play is much improved. He's clearly the biggest 782 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 6: reason for hope for the Patriots. But this one has 783 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 6: to me the makings of a Bills team that is 784 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 6: laser focused and just steam rolls, not just this week 785 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 6: but again in Week eighteen when they play in Julette Stadium. 786 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Field, I can live with that Field. 787 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: Thank you that. 788 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I'm trying to make this a stress free 789 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 6: Sunday for you guys, because I think that's gonna happen. 790 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: Beautiful cool, all right, Well, thanks very much. 791 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: Thanks. 792 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure are we with you next week or 793 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: are you just going to celebrate Christmas? Either way, it's fine, 794 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: we catch up otherwise. 795 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 7: I'll see you guys then yeah. 796 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: We'll do what the twenty six probably then yeah, so 797 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: we'll catch up with. 798 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: The day after Christmas on Thursday. 799 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: I have a merry Christmas with your young family and. 800 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 7: Joy Christmas, gentlemen. Thank you very much to join. 801 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 2: Us ESPN NFL Insigner Fantasy Football analyst, but the Ultimate 802 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 2: Fantasy Lineup presented by FanDuel. Gotta take a break here, 803 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: but we're gonna get to your phone calls. Where we 804 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: are asking you today top a good discussion what will 805 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: be the biggest factor in a Bill's win over the Patriots? 806 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight 807 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty your phone calls next here 808 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Stay with us all right back 809 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker time 810 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: now for excuse me, mister Tasker. Presented by Total Sports Enterprises, 811 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 2: the official and exclusive autographed merchandise partner of the Buffalo Bills. 812 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: We ask fans to submit their questions or a story 813 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: from one famer, Steve Tasker. Winners will receive a premium 814 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: mystery box of signed items, could be a signed picture, helmet, 815 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: football or even a current Bills players sign jersey. Rules 816 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 2: do apply, so you can read those at Buffalo Bills 817 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: dot com slash tsee Tasker. Look, I got a mystery 818 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: box right here, Steve. 819 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this before, but is 820 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: this the same one as we have? I think it is? 821 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: Okay, we can still is it? You can still show 822 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: it anyway? So you could you could win one of these? 823 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: And what we got here? 824 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: This is a I think it's a sign seventeen Josh 825 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: Allen jersey. Yeah. Is that like the highest end one 826 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: that they put it give us so that they can 827 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: they can entice people. 828 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: This is your twenty twenty four MVP. You know that's 829 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 2: pretty good, Gonna be worth something? 830 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: Right? Good? All right? 831 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: What's gonna end up in your mystery? 832 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: What's the question? Well, this week's. 833 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: Winner is Michelle, who asks you the following. Steve is 834 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: a former player. Does the strength of the opponent heading 835 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: into the playoffs have any impact on how sharp the team? 836 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: How sharp the team is for the playoffs? Bills are 837 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 2: playing really well right now. Could having three week opponents 838 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: down the stretch to the playoffs affect the Bills staying 839 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: as sharp as they are? 840 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: No, even even down opponents are enough to keep you sharp. 841 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: You gotta, I think the only benefit you get out 842 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: of having it wrapped up so early. Although the one 843 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: seed is still in the in the mix for the Bills, 844 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna play as hard as they can, but they're 845 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: only gonna do enough. I say, only do enough to win. 846 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: But if the if the Patriots don't show up and 847 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: the Bills are way out in front, you can bet 848 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: they'll start sitting people now on. They're not gonna give 849 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: up the game, but they gotta win these games. They 850 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: have to win these games. That's tantamount. And that's what 851 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna play like. They're gonna they're gonna do that. 852 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: That in and of itself keeps them sharp because it's 853 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: all about preparating that they're gonna be sharp through Monday 854 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: through Saturday, and Sundays will be the evidence that they're 855 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: preparing well. The only the real that's enough to keep 856 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: you sharp. The benefits of having the one seed is 857 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: the bye week. If there's no risk that if the 858 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: Bills have got the two seed and they can't get 859 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: to the one seed in Week eighteen because the Chiefs 860 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: have won out and they are two games ahead and 861 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: the Bills can't catch them, but they can still and 862 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: they're still gonna keep the two seed. You can bet 863 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: that you know Mitch Trubisky is gonna get some playing time. 864 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Brownie might be returning kicks, right, So, uh, 865 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: they'll have they'll have practice squad players elevated. They'll they'll 866 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: do a ton of stuff to get some rest for 867 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: as many key players as they can, and they won't 868 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: mind doing that. They'll still feel like they're gonna be sharp. 869 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: So that's really the only inkling I get. Any any 870 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: opponent you play in the NFL is gonna keep you 871 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: sharp because they're gonna be going hard and you're gonna 872 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: have to play and the Bills need to win these games. 873 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: So yes, these three week opponents, if you're talking about 874 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Jets, the Patriots, yes, the Bills will 875 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: stay very sharp against those opponents in this season. I'm 876 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: hard pressed to think of anybody that wouldn't be that 877 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: for any NFL team, if you're going into a real game, 878 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna stay sharp or you're gonna get your head 879 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: handed to you. That's just the that's the level of 880 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: the league they play in. When you have a problem 881 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: with it, and when you start to get unsharp is 882 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: when you have zero to play for, and then it 883 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: starts to spiral down. But yeah, the Bills have plenty 884 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: to play for. The games are important, and whether the 885 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: opponent is who it is or whether it's you know, 886 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: the Lions and the Chiefs and the Niners and the Rams, 887 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna stay sharp playing those teams. I promise 888 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: you they're gonna stay sharp playing those teams. 889 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: So that is excuse me, mister tasker. We pivot now 890 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: to the phones where we're asking you what will be 891 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: the key factor in a victory over the Patriots on Sunday. 892 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: So to the phones we go, and leading us off 893 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 2: today is Ryan in Toronto. What do you got fir Us, Ryan, 894 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 2: Chris Steve? 895 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 8: You know what, playing on Sunday's game is going to 896 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 8: be a big one. I think the Bills have to 897 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 8: win this game. I honestly don't think Casey's gonna lose 898 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 8: three games or two games that to be honest, and 899 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 8: it's the way fact Mahomes is playing. And secondly, Patriots 900 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 8: are playing with house money. They're playing lose. They got 901 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 8: nothing to play for. Bills are everything to play for 902 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 8: Number one see first of all and Romas eyes last 903 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 8: season Bill for one and one against the Patriots and 904 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 8: one on one again to get and those are two 905 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 8: points coming up in the next three. Bills have to 906 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 8: like they have to make sure that they you. 907 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 9: Know, I don't know if you blow them out, but 908 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 9: just to keep it close over and just get the 909 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 9: double lest because they played they play Packers v K 910 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 9: if you both, if you go them out to embarrass him, 911 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 9: they may have that chip of the shot on K 912 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 9: ten that might decide number one. 913 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: Mud, it's a good point. 914 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: He's not wrong. You're right, But man, Ryan, I don't 915 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 2: know if there's any other caller we have that worries 916 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 2: as much as Ryan does. He's so worried. It's not 917 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: even about this game. He's already thinking about Week eighteen. 918 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: He's right, though, You're right. I'll say this though, too, Ryan. 919 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: If it's week eighteen, if you if you stomp him 920 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: this week, if you thirty eight to nothing, right, forty 921 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: two to nothing this weekend. When they come back in 922 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: week eighteen, all you got to do is play one 923 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: good quarter, the first one, and they'll be done. You 924 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: will absolutely break their. 925 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: Heart and their will. 926 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: And their will, and they will not want to play 927 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: in Week eighteen knowing they have nothing to play for 928 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: except to come out of it healthy and give themselves 929 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: a good offseason. You're right, they in a normal in 930 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 1: normal football, when you're in the middle of the season, 931 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: you meet him early in the season and you thump them, 932 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 1: and they come back next time when they and they're 933 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: still in the play off hunt and all that. Yes, 934 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: they got a big chip on the shoulder and this 935 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: one they just want to go home. So I don't 936 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: think that's. 937 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: And apparently they played like that last week coming off 938 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: the bi. 939 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just heard field Yates say that accused them 940 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: of that a little bit, that their preparation did not 941 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,479 Speaker 1: look up to snuff last week against Houston. You're right, 942 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: they were one on one against the Jets and the 943 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: Patriots bust year. Yeah, last year. And I'll say this too, 944 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to sweep your division, very difficult. And 945 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: that's where the Bills are right now. They're three to zero, 946 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: but the division's already won. I don't know. I have 947 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: a hard time dredging that up. You gotta win. I 948 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: agree with you, though, you got to win this game. 949 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: You have to win this game and the Jets we'll 950 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: see when we get there. But yeah, just just worry 951 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,479 Speaker 1: about this game. Worry about week eighteen later. Worry about 952 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: this game this week. And I think if you do 953 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: crush them, you may get some future benefit from it, 954 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: rather than like in the regulars, like you refer to, 955 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: they may come back angry in two weeks now, not 956 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: in week eighteen for them, not when they're trying to 957 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: get to the end of the season. 958 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 2: Thinking about where they're flying after you. 959 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: You can say what you want, but by week eighteen 960 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: they may not even have the same head coach. So 961 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: there's that to think about as well. I get your theory, 962 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: and it's true, but only earlier in the season and 963 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: when they still have something else to play for. 964 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: Break time for us here, when we come back, our 965 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: number two is going to begin with the Hall of 966 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 2: Famer Thurman Thomas. He'll be joining us next here on 967 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health. It's 968 00:50:44,640 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. 969 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health. 970 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 2: All right, our number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and 971 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer Therma thomasin studio here on a Thursday, 972 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: Boss from the gallery. That's right, that was the That 973 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 2: was a golf clap. Yeah. Uh, Bill's offense is on fire. 974 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you that, Therm. And uh, 975 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 2: you must have been beaming with an ear to ear 976 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 2: smile watching the three running acts along with the two 977 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 2: tight ends pretty much carve up the linebackers and safeties 978 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 2: in the passing game. And then I mean what this 979 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: team has done in the low red zone running the 980 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 2: ball and even using misdirection. You know the Shakira touchdown. 981 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: You got Cook going out one way on a fake 982 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: pitch and then he just leaves it for Shakir coming 983 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 2: the other way, and you got Lions heads spinning around. 984 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 2: They don't know what's going where and who's up and 985 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: everything reserve too yeah right, I mean they really had 986 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 2: him looking all sorts of ways, and I mean it 987 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 2: just looked way too easy all day long. I mean, 988 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 2: Joe Brady was dialing it up and the players, to 989 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: their credit, were executed. 990 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, man, these guys have been put in some great positions. 991 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 3: They really have. So I know I've been texting Skip 992 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 3: a lot about it, and you know, he's. 993 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 10: You know, he's, hey, these guys. These guys know what 994 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 10: they're doing. They know what they're doing. They like to 995 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 10: be they need they know that they need to be 996 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 10: at the right place at the right time. And I 997 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 10: think with all three of them, man, it's a perfect 998 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 10: three headed muster here. 999 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: Man. 1000 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 10: But after like this game, they definitely the best duel 1001 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 10: back in the league. These guys, all three of the 1002 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 10: guy what I'm talking about, all three and not Montgomery 1003 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 10: because he's out now, Gibbs, but these guys here, they 1004 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 10: took over from them from Detroit and. 1005 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: Down on a place where you can have the conversation 1006 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: about Detroit because they didn't to Detroit. Yeah. That it's 1007 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: been interesting too that this offense. I thought for the 1008 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: first well maybe one of the times that when Joe 1009 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: Brady's calling those playss like we were out ahead of it. Yeah, 1010 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't take a it didn't take a superlative place somebody 1011 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: breaking six tackles, or didn't take Josh making some superhuman play, 1012 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: putting a cape on out running the pursuit. They had him. 1013 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean, they schemed these guys running open all over 1014 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: the field and Josh was hitting them. I thought that 1015 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: the over the top plays by Josh, the touch passes 1016 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: were something we haven't seen too much. I just thought 1017 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: Joe Brady really showed up. 1018 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I thought that was I mean, that 1019 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 10: was his best game as far as throwing. 1020 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 3: The deep ball. 1021 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, over the year, this whole year, I think this 1022 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,479 Speaker 10: was his best game. 1023 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 3: And then you know, you see the one the knocks 1024 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 3: where you kind of. 1025 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 10: Overthrow it a little bit, so I think, yeah, tip 1026 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 10: in to himself, But this is the best game that 1027 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 10: I think Josh has played when trying to hit the perceiver. 1028 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 3: And I'm just you know, And another. 1029 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 10: Part with this, too, man, is that he's so dangerous 1030 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 10: that he allows Joe Brady allows him to do just 1031 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 10: about anything. 1032 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 3: Because that offensive line is doing one ele. 1033 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: Of a job. 1034 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 3: They're past blocking, they're run blocking. 1035 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 10: I guarantee before the season is over with or maybe 1036 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 10: in the playoffs, offense linem gonna catch Strutch down. 1037 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: But Eric Wood on the broadcast with me was talking 1038 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: about this too. You know, back when you guys were 1039 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 2: playing you'd have a guard pull to the other side 1040 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: or a center. These guys have tackles pull all the 1041 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 2: way across to the other side on these pinning pull schemes. 1042 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, just talk about the athleticism you need in 1043 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 2: a tackle to be able to execute a play like that. 1044 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's amazing. 1045 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 10: I mean we had guys back when we were like, 1046 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 10: we ran a counter a lot, you know, Big Howard 1047 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 10: coming around. 1048 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 3: He's three sixty or whatever. 1049 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 10: So yeah, but having guys do all this, I'm like, 1050 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 10: I think you can see it on the quarterback sneak 1051 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 10: where somehow Dion Dawkins ended up on. 1052 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 3: The right side of the ball. Yeah, where was that 1053 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: coming from? 1054 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were doing that a lot last year. 1055 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 2: I mean they did that all day against Dallas if 1056 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 2: you remember, yeah, in the uh in the primetime game 1057 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 2: last year. 1058 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 10: And this is incredible what they're doing too, because you know, 1059 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 10: you're you're usually facing off to your guy and now 1060 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 10: you're coming over and blocking somebody else and and they've 1061 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 10: been all like a plus right there, Yeah, because there 1062 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 10: hasn't been anything back there for jobs to be like, 1063 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 10: oh I gotta scramble now. 1064 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. But even on Cooks for one yard run for 1065 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: the touchdown. Spencer Brown comes from the right side, comes 1066 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 2: out outside the tight end and he's got the kickout block, 1067 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 2: like that's a long way to go and. 1068 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 10: He gets to kick out block and everybody is just 1069 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 10: they just took everybody down. 1070 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, look at it. 1071 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 2: That's I mean, he's coming all the way. There's not 1072 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 2: a lot of tackles that can do that. 1073 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 10: No, No, I I think really with with this what 1074 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 10: we're seeing now. 1075 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: You know, they can do just about anything. Yeah, they 1076 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 3: can really. 1077 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 10: I mean there's that defense has to be like, well, 1078 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 10: I don't know if is he gonna pull or is 1079 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 10: somebody coming to me? 1080 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 2: And you got nine different guys catching passes like who 1081 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: do you key on? 1082 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1083 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: They It's really been the best case scenario as to 1084 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: the answer to all the questions we had at the 1085 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Is Connor McGovern gonna be better 1086 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: down inside? You know? Is David Edward's gonna be okay 1087 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: coming in at guard? Is is Connor McGovern up to it? 1088 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: And then the tackles, can they stay healthy? Can they 1089 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: stay on the field? Are they gonna stay healthy like 1090 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: we did last year? What about you know, then they 1091 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: had Tyland Grabile come in and win the swing tackle job. 1092 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: Now he's back in the lineup after losing the entire season. 1093 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: Almost all those were and then can all the guys 1094 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: on the outside are they going to be better by committee? 1095 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: Are they going to be better with you know, Shakir, 1096 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: you know Sanders or Samuel? You know who's this mac 1097 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: Hollins guy, right, we didn't even know him. So I 1098 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: think all the questions, all the question marks the Bills 1099 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: fans had about this roster coming in the season, it's 1100 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of been the best case scenario for all 1101 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: of them, for all. 1102 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 10: Of and now fans are like, let's go. We got it, 1103 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 10: we got we got a team. 1104 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a wagon. 1105 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 3: We have a team. I mean, I don't know where 1106 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 3: there are points are. 1107 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 10: As far as like I think our best was like 1108 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 10: ninety one, but after the ninety season. Yeah, And so 1109 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 10: I mean this team, I mean they were I mean, sure, 1110 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 10: I don't want I don't want to defense give up 1111 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 10: thirty points. 1112 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: But if that's the case, let's. 1113 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: Go all four. And yeah, I think they did. They 1114 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: went from single high to too high over the second 1115 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: half of the game when they're up seventeen, So that 1116 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: changed side and they made some hay offensively. And I 1117 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: said this earlier in the week, the sixty one yard 1118 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: er to Amnross Saint Brown where it went through the 1119 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: hands of Bernard where he had got deep on the 1120 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: cross ground and he snapped it off for a big touchdown. 1121 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: That was the one play that really changed things for 1122 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: the entire second half and gave the Lions, Hey, they're 1123 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: gonna get back in this. And because now they got 1124 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: a chance because they scored so quick that you take 1125 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: that play out of it, make them go the long way. 1126 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: You look up and they get close to ten, and 1127 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: then the Bills go down score again. It's like they 1128 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,439 Speaker 1: can't get there. Yeah, they can't get there. And even 1129 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: so even with that, with that play, they had to 1130 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: get two on side try two onside kicks. 1131 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think even with that game at the beginning 1132 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 10: of the game, going back here, you know, we read 1133 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 10: a lot of stuff about Ed Oliver. Oh yeah, I 1134 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 10: mean the first couple of players, I mean, whoever was 1135 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 10: the guard they were in trouble. And I knew at 1136 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 10: that time the first couple of like series because they 1137 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 10: went one, two three out, one two, three and out 1138 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,439 Speaker 10: ed was the guy that was curating having I said, 1139 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 10: it don't matter, they've already set the tone already, how 1140 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 10: it's gonna be all day. 1141 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 3: Sure, but you give up thirty eight points or whatever. 1142 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 10: But they set the tone the first couple of series 1143 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 10: three and out and ever tell you a big ninety 1144 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 10: one he was. He heard the talk because there were 1145 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 10: a lot of people that were talking about I saw it, 1146 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 10: and I'm sure everybody else. Somebody probably told him about it. 1147 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 10: So it's a perfect time to pick it up. Because 1148 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 10: I was like, Detroit, they ain't gonna get nothing all day. 1149 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 10: It was that type of game that they were gonna 1150 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 10: have on the ground. 1151 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: A coach mcthurban on Monday after the game said to 1152 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: the media and his press conversation, anytime you guys want 1153 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,439 Speaker 2: stir things up about it again, feel free, totally fine 1154 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: with it as much as you want. Concerning point totals 1155 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: in seasons, guys, your ninety one team is third all 1156 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 2: time for Bill's points in a season with four hundred 1157 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: and fifty eight. The twenty twenty one team scored for 1158 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: eighty three that was in seventeen games, and then the 1159 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: all time highest scoring season was the twenty twenty team. 1160 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: Last team to play sixteen regular season games five hundred 1161 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: one points. So the team right now has four hundred 1162 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 2: and forty five with three games to play. I think 1163 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: that's in striking distance. You have a couple of thirty 1164 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 2: point games. You're right there, I think you do. You're 1165 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 2: right there. 1166 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know what, but really, I mean, I 1167 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 10: know New England hasn't been good in a while, but 1168 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 10: it's still they still scared me. They do they I mean, 1169 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 10: they still just New England. You know, I know they're 1170 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 10: not coming in with Belichick or whatever, but you know 1171 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 10: that they're the hardest game that they're going to try 1172 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 10: to do is to prevent Josh from getting outside. 1173 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. 1174 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 3: They're gonna mean, that's how it's supposed to go. 1175 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 10: I mean, he's beating every team on the outside, and 1176 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 10: they you know what, it might work great for the 1177 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 10: first quarter, but I think after that everything breaks down. 1178 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 3: But they're gonna see a different type of and they 1179 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 3: just don't have the teams. 1180 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: The talent Josh has just in this group in particular, 1181 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: has demonstrated enough that they can. They have so many 1182 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: different ways to be Yes, Josh all beats everybody if 1183 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: he gets outside, but he can beat a lot of teams. 1184 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Stand right in the pocket. He cans beat a lot 1185 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: of teams just handing it off, you know, he can. 1186 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: They can win that way too, and I think they will. 1187 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: I think also this is the defense that will be 1188 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: depending on the health of the secondary. But if those 1189 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: guys get back on the field, or two of them 1190 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: get back, two of the three that are out get 1191 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: back on the field, they'll start making plays again. And 1192 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, the defense didn't have a turnover at all 1193 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: against la They got one really good one almost two 1194 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: against Detroit. I think that that's where they're going to 1195 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: get back to as well defensively. If they do, then 1196 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no you know, there's nobody gonna 1197 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: beat them, let alone the Patriots. 1198 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what, And this is I guess this 1199 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 10: could be a great week or good week for the 1200 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 10: defense to get back on schedule, you know, to hold 1201 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 10: somebody to thirteen points or fourteen points or whatever. I 1202 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 10: think they need that after the last couple of weeks 1203 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 10: of giving up what. 1204 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Forty two and forty two and forty eight. 1205 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Forty two and forty eight. Yeah, So I think this 1206 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 3: is a. 1207 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Game where forty four and forty two. 1208 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think this is a game that can that 1209 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 10: can really help them if they keep these guys you 1210 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 10: know below thirteen, below twenty points or something like that, 1211 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 10: really really make it make it hard for Drake. 1212 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: We had we had a lot of people calling us 1213 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 2: early in the week saying they're worried about the defense 1214 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 2: with all the points they've given up. And Steve and 1215 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 2: I were trying to explain last week's game in the 1216 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: Rams game were not the same thing. I mean, you're 1217 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 2: at the end of the third quarter, you've given up 1218 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 2: four teen points to the Lions. That was not how 1219 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: the Rams game went. And I, Steve and I were 1220 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 2: kind of saying, I would argue, the fourth quarter, the 1221 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 2: game's already in hand and for all intents and purposes won, 1222 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 2: and the defense is giving up yards on the field 1223 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 2: in exchange for time on the clock. They were not 1224 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 2: playing that way against the Rams. They were trying to 1225 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 2: climb back into the game. It was totally different. The 1226 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: forty two points that the Lions scored compared to the 1227 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: forty four points that the Rams scored the week before. 1228 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 2: Would you agree like the defense the way they played 1229 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 2: that game was different. I think this game against the line. 1230 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 10: I totally agree with that. Yeah, I totally agree with 1231 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 10: your point that they did. Yeah, it was it was 1232 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 10: night and day of how the game was played. 1233 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with that point. 1234 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 2: And the defensive line really kind of, to your point, 1235 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 2: set the tone and kind of dominated the line of 1236 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 2: scrimmage against the Good Lions offensive line. I mean, Frank 1237 01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Ragnow was pancaked, but like there was one play I 1238 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 2: think it was a third downplay and Goth wanted to 1239 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 2: step up in the pocket. The problem was his center 1240 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: was on his back and in his lap. He had 1241 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 2: nowhere to. 1242 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Step up the crawling at his feet and Ragnow was 1243 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: like looking over his shoulder and rag Now is a 1244 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: good center. Rag Now. They said it. I mean they 1245 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: said it on the broadcast. Rag Noow was considered one 1246 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: of the best centers in the league and and head 1247 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: steam rolled it. Now, he didn't do that the entire game, 1248 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: but he caught him on that play, but took advantage 1249 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: of it and turned into a sack. And that the 1250 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: play of the defensive front. And you can't I don't 1251 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: want to overstate it or anything, but but on a 1252 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: game when they really needed him. Those guys showed up. 1253 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: It's like they knew they had to do it. Ed 1254 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: in particular, to our point, was really really good in 1255 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: this game. And that's they had. They had three secondary 1256 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: starters out of the game. You knew it was going 1257 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: to be a struggle. You knew they were going to 1258 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: miss some a couple of things at least some things 1259 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: were gonna slip through the cracks, right and uh so 1260 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the front had to be good and they were. 1261 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,919 Speaker 3: They were good. 1262 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you saw, like I mean, Taron Johnson, 1263 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 10: I mean he was back. I mean I mean trying 1264 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,959 Speaker 10: to cover Coop and the guy in the round. 1265 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,919 Speaker 3: That's a tough day. That was a very tough day 1266 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 3: for everybody that was in the secondary. 1267 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 10: And you know what, but these guys set in the 1268 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 10: tone and uh looking forward them to do the same 1269 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 10: thing come against the Patriots. 1270 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: What do you remember about the years when you were 1271 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: playing and this team was the team was rolling offensively, 1272 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: you got you're shooting for the one seed you got. 1273 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's wrapped up early, sometimes it's not. Sometimes you 1274 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: got to push to the end of the season. Sometimes, 1275 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you gotta have to go on the road. 1276 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: In the playoffs. What do you remember about how to 1277 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: how they you know, handled that and how you felt 1278 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: you I mean you took a pounding during the regular season, 1279 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: you know. Tell me about the end of the season 1280 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: and how you liked to be handled by Marv and 1281 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: your coaching staff. 1282 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh. 1283 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean it was I mean they had best 1284 01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 10: coach in the world, Elijah Pitts. 1285 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: And and I believe whatever he said. 1286 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 10: If there was some day, take every hand off this 1287 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 10: week something, Yeah, nope. 1288 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 3: He'll tell me Monday. Hey, we're going to rest you. 1289 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 10: But I still want you to go through the process 1290 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 10: of knowing that you're not going to play as much. 1291 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 10: But I still want you to go through the process 1292 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 10: and be ready whatever. And like he told me that, 1293 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 10: Like the one game that I wanted to play against 1294 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 10: was at the end of the season. I was going 1295 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 10: against my ex college teammate, roommate, running back Barry Sanders, 1296 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 10: and I didn't play. 1297 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 3: I mean I remember that, and and but they won 1298 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 3: the game. 1299 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,479 Speaker 10: They won the game in ot and I was like, man, 1300 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 10: the perfect time, like not the perfect time to sit 1301 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 10: me right now, because I just wanted yeah, yeah, we 1302 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 10: even though we were two years at Oklahoma stay. I 1303 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 10: actually played against him, like, and we were going for 1304 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 10: the Russian title and he was out of the window 1305 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 10: Monday morning when Eli told me, you're not going to play, 1306 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 10: but go through, do do your regular things. And that 1307 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 10: day and you know, if anybody knew, like, we didn't 1308 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 10: really tell anybody, just kind of kept it a secret, 1309 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 10: and you're supposed to keep it a secret if you 1310 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 10: would have looked at that game and go back. 1311 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 3: I didn't wear my Bracet game because I knew I 1312 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 3: wasn't playing. I was going through Walmart brace. Yeah. 1313 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 10: My knee breaks, yeah, but I wore all the week, 1314 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 10: but game day I didn't have my knee breaks because 1315 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 10: I knew I wasn't gonna play. 1316 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, just a little. 1317 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 1318 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 2: There's some NFL news coming down from the Jets. Nope, 1319 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 2: much to our They're always weird. 1320 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1321 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Madden ratings, Yeah yeah. 1322 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 1323 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 2: Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, who's got the ankle injury, is 1324 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 2: expected to play on Saturday against the Texans. So I 1325 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 2: don't think anybody's surprised by that. It was deemed a 1326 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 2: mild mild high ankle sprain, and he even said in 1327 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 2: his press conference it's not as bad as the one 1328 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: he had two years ago, so he will play on Saturday. 1329 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 2: I think the key though, therm is knowing they play 1330 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day four days later. He's got to hope 1331 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't aggravate it in the course of the game 1332 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 2: because he's gonna have even less time to get ready 1333 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 2: for the next game. 1334 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 3: And then playing the Texans. 1335 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 2: Play the Texans on Saturday, they got Will Anderson. 1336 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 3: And exactly, he's not gonna be sitting back. 1337 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 2: He's got two lousy tackles. 1338 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 1: And then they've got the Pittsburgh Steelers on Christmas. 1339 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 7: T J. 1340 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Watt and Alex he come on, come on, yeah, I 1341 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 2: was one on rest. 1342 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 1: T J. Watson. 1343 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 10: Yeah, you look, you're looking at them and they're fastic. 1344 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 10: They could possibly lose. 1345 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 3: To Denver too. 1346 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 2: Well, Denver is gonna be that game. 1347 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 10: Right exactly, and so a baby, well, that's the thing. 1348 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 10: You're gonna turn that too into one win their game. 1349 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: And then watch but uh, well they're gonna know how 1350 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh did. But I mean, how Kansas City get against Houston. 1351 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 1: We'll see. You still just got to win your games, 1352 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: and you don't want to get caught by Pittsburgh winning 1353 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: out and then taking you and now you're the three seed. 1354 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: You then have Kansas City losing their first division round. 1355 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 1: You win, you got to go on the road instead 1356 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,839 Speaker 1: of having everybody come to you for the FC championship. 1357 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: The two seed does mean something. 1358 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 3: It does mean something. 1359 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 10: Yeah, so uh, I'm I mean, well we're talking about 1360 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 10: the Jets snake week, but whatever. 1361 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean. 1362 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 2: To Steve's point though, it's not just about trying to 1363 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 2: run down the Chiefs. It's trying to stay ahead of 1364 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers right behind you. 1365 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: And they had Yes, that was a big help. Yeah, 1366 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: they lose Philly, Phil. 1367 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 3: Philly, and off the field that was a big, big 1368 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 3: logs for him right there. 1369 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore looked dead. They were eight and five at one point, 1370 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: but you know if they tie the Bills record, you 1371 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: know they'd win because they got the head to head 1372 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: the Bills. 1373 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 2: Uh So nine and five now, right, and they play 1374 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh this week. 1375 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Yes, on Pittsburgh Baltimore Saturday. 1376 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those teams is can obviously lose. Yeah, 1377 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Baltimore is gonna beat them out for the division. 1378 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 2: They're a game back. 1379 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 3: Is that game in Baltimore? Is it in Pittsburgh? I 1380 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 3: think that would make a guess. 1381 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 10: I think it's a huge difference which where where this 1382 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 10: game is played, because that's what I think. 1383 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 3: Lamar has really played well in Pittsburgh. I couldn't be wrong, but. 1384 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: No, Lamar has not played well in Pittsburgh. They've lost 1385 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: eight of their last nine against Oldsburgh and eight and 1386 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: eight of those all eight of those wins have been 1387 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:33,919 Speaker 1: single digit losses. 1388 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,919 Speaker 2: And it's in Baltimore. 1389 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, Uh, think about this. 1390 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh won the first meeting. 1391 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that's always bothered 1392 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Bill's fans about Baltimore and Lamar. Lamar doesn't seem like 1393 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,639 Speaker 1: he's clutch. Mahomes does, Josh does, Joe Burrow seems clutch. 1394 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 1: When the chips are down, you need to play those 1395 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: guys make that play. It doesn't look like Lamar does. 1396 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Lamar is an elite front runner. 1397 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 10: I think he's doing just make that play. Mostly in 1398 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 10: the playoffs. I think during the regular season he makes 1399 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 10: those plays. 1400 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: And the regular season they never had those because he's 1401 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: They're running off and leaving folks. 1402 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but he's still making plays. 1403 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1404 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 2: If I lost eighteen sixteen to the Steelers in the 1405 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 2: first game. 1406 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 10: They know, and you know what that game was. They 1407 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 10: tried to have Lamar Jackson throw the ball board and 1408 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 10: they had Derek Henry run the football that first game, 1409 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 10: and it changed the entire dynamic of it because that's 1410 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 10: what they tried to do against Kansas City, and that's. 1411 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 2: What STEP's saying. They put the game on Lamar to 1412 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 2: win it and it didn't happen. 1413 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,759 Speaker 3: Regular season and it didn't happen. 1414 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but regular season. Third, the guy has 1415 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: never won a playoff game. 1416 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 2: I think he won one, and he's won one. 1417 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Joshua's won every single year. 1418 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. 1419 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 1: So I'm home just two. I mean, that's my point. 1420 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta figure in this league, somebody's going to 1421 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,759 Speaker 3: have that on there. Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, somebody gonna 1422 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 3: have that on them. 1423 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 2: It might be Lamar, it could it could be Lamar, 1424 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 2: it could be Lamar j. 1425 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: That's a hole in his resume. The guy's a two 1426 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: time MVP and he's got one playoff win. There's something 1427 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: in that. You can quantify it or describe it however 1428 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: you want. Maybe it's indescribable, but I think it comes 1429 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 1: down to, you know, when it's time to have a 1430 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: guy rise up and make other guys better. I mean, 1431 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: he's great, but I don't see him elevating anybody. 1432 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 3: You know, maybe this is the year with Dereg Henry. 1433 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: It might be because it's a different year. 1434 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 3: It's different year, like. 1435 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: It's a different year for Buffalo, it's a different year 1436 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: for them. 1437 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 2: Well that's why I think somehow, some way, they're gonna 1438 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 2: walk down Pittsburgh and take the division from them because 1439 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 2: they're only a game back. They got the head to 1440 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 2: head this week, and then the Steelers got to go 1441 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 2: play the Chiefs in four days, you know what I mean. Baltimore, 1442 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 2: Baltimore has got They're at Houston the next week and 1443 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 2: then Cleveland. 1444 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could catch them. 1445 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this though, I'm uh this this game. There's 1446 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: a game tonight, Chargers Broncos. 1447 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 2: That's a big one too, It's a really big So 1448 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers are eight and six, Broncos are nine and five. 1449 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,640 Speaker 10: Broncos if yeah, Broncos, So Broncos win, they clinch a 1450 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 10: playoff spot. 1451 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I think I think ten, Yeah, ten gets them in. 1452 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 2: I think that's right, But I would have to check Okay, 1453 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 2: I don't think mathematically it's cements it, but it's like. 1454 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: A the Broncos go ten and five, they would jump 1455 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: ahead of Baltimore where Baltimore is at nine. 1456 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:40,680 Speaker 2: Momentarily. 1457 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Momentarily, uh, they would be oh yeah that yeah, absolutely 1458 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: would because they would beat Los Angeles, which is the 1459 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 1: game team right behind him. The next closest team has 1460 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: six wins. So yeah, they'd be in. 1461 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,679 Speaker 10: Only thing that I know right now at this point 1462 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 10: that we're playing better than anybody. We are playing better 1463 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 10: than anybody. I'm not even talking about NMC. I'm talking 1464 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,600 Speaker 10: about AMC right now. We're playing better than anybody. I 1465 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 10: think we're I think we're the team to be even 1466 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 10: if we don't get the number one seed, I still 1467 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 10: think we are the best team in AMC. I think 1468 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 10: we can I think we can go either way. We 1469 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 10: can play two games or we can play three games 1470 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 10: to get through the Super Bowl. 1471 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 2: All right, So let me throw this at you then, 1472 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 2: is there any team that you would be concerned isn't 1473 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: an ideal matchup for the Bills in the AFC, Like, hey, 1474 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,640 Speaker 2: if I had to pick one team to avoid on 1475 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 2: the path to the Super Bowl in the A f C. 1476 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,679 Speaker 2: It would be is it Kansas City over Baltimore, Because 1477 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm a little more concerned about 1478 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 2: Baltimore than i am about Kansas City. 1479 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 1: I think it's Kansas City. I think they got that. 1480 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 3: At some point in time, Brownie. We gotta start kicking. 1481 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 1: But well, yeah, I'm doing. 1482 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 2: I feel good about that happening. 1483 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: That's the thing we have to start. 1484 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 10: It was the same thing with Peyton man and Tom Brady. 1485 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 10: Tom Brady kept beating peyton Man until that one time he. 1486 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning beat him in his seventh or eighth season 1487 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 2: in the league. 1488 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,640 Speaker 10: Took him, took him back long, took him back, and 1489 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 10: noe of the reason they won that game because Belichick 1490 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 10: went for it on for. 1491 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 2: Him down in his own half of the field. 1492 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 1: That's right, and he did. Hey, that was just that. 1493 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 1: That going forward and fourth down with Belichick way back 1494 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 1: in the day is exactly why Dan Campbell kicked the 1495 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: on side kick with twelve minutes ago. We ain't stopping 1496 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 1: those guys. We got to get the ball. That was 1497 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: exactly the same, That was the same train of thought, 1498 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: and it didn't work, But you got that's that's what 1499 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: they know. They got to have the ball back, and 1500 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: the An' getting it. 1501 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 2: They were treating Josh like teams treating Mahomes. We can't 1502 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 2: give him the ball back, can't. 1503 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Give them the ball back. I mean he was on 1504 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 3: he's on fire. 1505 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm glad I'm sitting over. 1506 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Here watching the only team. I get it. Baltimore is 1507 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: a difficult matchup. There, difficult matchup for we owe them one. Yes. 1508 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. Is there a team before 1509 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: don't mind playing? And I'll say the team that I 1510 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind playing again is Houston. 1511 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 3: I think we I think we rolled right over Heton. 1512 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,799 Speaker 1: I do too, and I think that's a big. 1513 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Now, don't forget, and I know we've got to break here, 1514 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 2: but don't forget the last time the Bills played them, 1515 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon was not in the lineup. He was out injured. 1516 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 2: And he's back now, and he can run the football 1517 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 2: like they can ride him. And he's got a history 1518 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: against this team here. We all remember the Cincinnati Divisional 1519 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 2: playoff when he ran for one fifty. Don't forget about that. 1520 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 3: I think. 1521 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,719 Speaker 2: Good to see you have a merry Christmas with the family. 1522 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 2: Have a merry Christmas. 1523 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,599 Speaker 3: Then a happy New Year, and go Bill. 1524 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Therma Thomas here with us on one 1525 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Will take a break and back to phone calls. 1526 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Stay with us, Josh, that did not seem Junia. 1527 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 2: From the Coach's Office, presented by c FBT, the official 1528 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Office Technology company of the Buffalo Bills. All right, Steve, 1529 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 2: this Patriots team, they haven't seen them all season, but 1530 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,839 Speaker 2: they got to play him twice in the next three weeks. 1531 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 2: How are the coaches strategizing this week knowing they got 1532 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 2: to play this team again? 1533 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 1: To me, to me, and by all accounts, there should 1534 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 1: be some matchups where the Bills are just superior, in fact, 1535 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 1: multiple matchups. If New England is on a rebuild and 1536 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 1: they've got some guys that they need to replace, they 1537 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 1: just aren't good enough to compete at a high level, 1538 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: you get your guys matched up on them and you win, 1539 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 1: and you keep the game plan more simple, let your 1540 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 1: guys win. Just go out there and play and win, 1541 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: and I think then from there, in two weeks, then 1542 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: you strategize and say, Okay, now we're gonna give you 1543 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 1: some help. Now that they've got this some answers or whatever. 1544 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 1: Now we'll strategize it or throw in some wrinkles that 1545 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 1: will help you win. But I think this you depend 1546 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 1: you coach your players like you trust them. You're better 1547 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: than they. Go out and prove it, and keep it 1548 01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 1: more simple than you were forced to last year. Last week, 1549 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: the Lions forced you to hit on all cylinders. Now 1550 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 1: the Bills were doing that offensively and stuff, and they 1551 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 1: showed why you got to hit. 1552 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. But to Dan Orlovsky's point, he was on the 1553 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 2: show earlier this week, Joe Brady didn't just say here's 1554 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 2: the one on mon matchup, now go win it. You 1555 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 2: used scheme to facilitate that matchup righting. 1556 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 1: Now you can now Also you could do somef just 1557 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: repeat some stuff you have that you've given you success 1558 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,720 Speaker 1: in the past. And you know, I'm not saying from 1559 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: last week, but other things against defensive schemes like the 1560 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Patriots run, be ready to run those, uh and always 1561 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 1: always if you see him in a coverage, every no 1562 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 1: coverage is perfect. So hit it where the coverage is 1563 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,799 Speaker 1: vulnerable and scheme it up correctly. But keep it simple, 1564 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: you know, so you're gonna attack cover two on the outside, 1565 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: deep on the on the sidelines, and underneath and in 1566 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 1: the flat and just over the ball. That's you know, 1567 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: those kind of dead areas. If they're in cover three, 1568 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: you're going to be in the deep curls all that stuff. 1569 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,240 Speaker 1: So you'll keep scheming it to work against the defense 1570 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: they've called, but you don't have to go elaborate. And 1571 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, if they're gonna run, if they're gonna run 1572 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 1: man de man defense, you know, Gonzales can stay with guys, 1573 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 1: can anybody else? And if they can, then you might 1574 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: start running some rub plays and getting some guys open 1575 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 1: that way. 1576 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three h 1577 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty 1578 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 2: where we've been asking you today what will be the 1579 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 2: biggest factor in a Bill's win over the Patriots? And 1580 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,600 Speaker 2: got some people waiting patiently. We go to Rob in Connecticut. 1581 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 1: You pull them up here. 1582 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 2: What do you got for us? 1583 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Rob? 1584 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing, Brownie? Good afternoon, Steve. Always a 1585 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 4: pleasure to be on with you guys. Thanks for taking 1586 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 4: my call. Steve just hit the nail right on the head. 1587 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 4: I was sitting here as I was listening to you 1588 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,880 Speaker 4: guys talking to Therming and then touching on this this 1589 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 4: game coming up. Keep it simple, I mean, just keep 1590 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 4: it simple. We don't have to do anything fancy. Just 1591 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 4: go out play the game. Contain Drake May you know, 1592 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 4: that's you know, all got to do is just contain 1593 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 4: him defensively and then offensively. Just go out have fun. 1594 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 4: Use the three Musketeers, because that's what I call Dy 1595 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 4: Ray and Jimbo. Now that's the three Musketeers right there. 1596 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 4: So have fun, you know, go out play the game. 1597 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 4: Maybe throw throw a couple of plays at him that 1598 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 4: we haven't used that we've been working on, and try 1599 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 4: it out, and don't be afraid for the deep ball 1600 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 4: every once in a while. You know, I think this 1601 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 4: is gonna be a good outcome. I'm not worried about it. 1602 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,040 Speaker 4: Keep doing what you guys are doing. Always a pleasure. 1603 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Thanks Rob, Thanks appreciate that. 1604 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're calling Drake May a mini Josh. 1605 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 2: He does similar things to what Josh did. Is a 1606 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,760 Speaker 2: very young player using his legs. I mean, he's doing 1607 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,719 Speaker 2: some improvisational off script type play as well. Last week 1608 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, he's in the red zone. He takes 1609 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 2: off out of the pocket to the left side, he's 1610 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 2: running towards the end zone, two defenders close on him. 1611 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 2: He throws a shovel pass into the end zone to 1612 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,720 Speaker 2: an open receiver, just shoveled it right to him in 1613 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 2: between the two defenders. Touchdown. That's the stuff that Josh does. 1614 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 2: May has that level of athleticism, and he's got a 1615 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 2: big arm. It's probably not as big as Josh's arm is, 1616 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 2: but it's more than good enough. So he just needs 1617 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,560 Speaker 2: people around him. And whether the Patriots are gonna be 1618 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,600 Speaker 2: able to do that, I don't know, But he's the 1619 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 2: guy you know obviously to stop the run first, but 1620 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 2: you gotta hem him in the pocket and not let 1621 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,320 Speaker 2: him start running around extending drives with his legs. 1622 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I would agree with all of that. Yeah, 1623 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: defend him. How you are afraid of people being able 1624 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 1: to defend Josh? 1625 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1626 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,679 Speaker 2: And they have experience doing that. I mean they played 1627 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 2: They've played Lamar almost every year the last few years 1628 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 2: and Mahomes two. 1629 01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: What do you hate about defenses who play Josh in 1630 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 1: a certain way and mimic it? Yeah, that's it's it's 1631 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 1: pretty cutting dry. So due to them, what do you 1632 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,760 Speaker 1: hope they don't do to you? With your quarterback. 1633 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 2: Let's go to Tom in West Virginia. 1634 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 4: Next. 1635 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 2: What's up Tom? 1636 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 5: Hey, Chris A, Steve, how you guys doing good? Good? 1637 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 5: Good to hear. I wanted to thank you guys first off, 1638 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 5: for about a month ago, I was having a having 1639 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,600 Speaker 5: a rough day at work and you guys had me 1640 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 5: laughing with NonStop. I do believe you guys were It 1641 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:36,560 Speaker 5: was in reference to the Jets hiring Mike Cannonbaum. Oh yeah, 1642 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,600 Speaker 5: a firm to help them find her new coach. And 1643 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 5: I can't remember if it was Christmas Steve and said it. 1644 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 5: What you guys said, Uh, that's like having your first 1645 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 5: ex wife find your new ex wife. 1646 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, that's about it. That's where they are. 1647 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 5: And then the next set I heard about the Jets, 1648 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 5: I had to repeat it to you guys. Dan Mitchell 1649 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 5: was a Bill's Content guy, and it was said to 1650 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 5: him is that the Jets are like the restaurant location 1651 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 5: in your hometown that keeps closing and opening up as 1652 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 5: a new restaurant, but the food is just still awful. 1653 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of examples that. 1654 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,679 Speaker 1: That's a good one too. That's very fitting. Yeah, same location, 1655 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: the food is still terrible. 1656 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 5: My question is for you, Steve Okay and Oliver had 1657 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 5: this fantastic game and Chris you saw it as well. 1658 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 5: My thing is, he's not had a very good season 1659 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 5: statistic wise. It's probably his worst season as a pro. 1660 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 3: Steve. 1661 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 5: When you get a player in the locker room that's 1662 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,599 Speaker 5: not having what's to say, they're in a slump, how 1663 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 5: does that? How does that work in with the players 1664 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 5: and the coaches? How do you guys deal with Like 1665 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 5: how do you guys deal with that? Basically? Like like 1666 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 5: is there you know, how does that guy happen to 1667 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 5: come out of it? 1668 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: As what I'm asking, Well, here's the thing. I'll say this, 1669 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 1: it's a I think Ed. This season for Ed has 1670 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: been one where he hasn't been as good. And I'll 1671 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 1: say this the thing that and I think he's like 1672 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: a little a lot of other veteran players we have seen, 1673 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 1: maybe even like a guy like Vaughn and these guys 1674 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: who have been around and Vaughn's you know, won two 1675 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowls with two different franchises, and this is a 1676 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 1: team and during Ed's think about it, During Ed's tenure 1677 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,719 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, he's in the playoffs every year he's 1678 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: a division champ every year of his career, right, this 1679 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 1: is where he expects to be. It's difficult to get excited. 1680 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 1: And especially when you've got it all sewed up two 1681 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago, three weeks ago, and you're winning games early 1682 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: in the season, you know you're as good as you've 1683 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 1: ever been, it's hard to get to fully jump in 1684 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: with a lot of intensity and say and everything's important 1685 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: because you're waiting for the playoffs to start. My hope 1686 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 1: is and my contention is a guy like Vaughn, the 1687 01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,840 Speaker 1: guy like Ed. Ed showed you when he wants it, 1688 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 1: he's got it. He turned it on last week. And 1689 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of this, like the 1690 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are in, just get them, get me 1691 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 1: the playoffs so I can start playing for something the meaningful. 1692 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: They've been through this, This is not why they're playing. 1693 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 1: And it's hard to make it look like it's the 1694 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,879 Speaker 1: most important thing ever when you're waiting for the tournament 1695 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,680 Speaker 1: to start. And they've been waiting for the tournament to 1696 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: start probably since they were nine and two, right so 1697 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: or eight and two and there you know, and the 1698 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 1: Jets and the Patriots and the Dolphins are all puking 1699 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,599 Speaker 1: on their own shoes. You know you're gonna win the division, 1700 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,839 Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, get me to the playoffs 1701 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: and a game like last Sunday in Detroit when the 1702 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,160 Speaker 1: whole world's watching kind of felt like it and Ed 1703 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: showed up like it. That's where I think some of 1704 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: these guys are at. They have had so much success 1705 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 1: for so long. Now it's like, Okay, it's greats I 1706 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 1: love it, We're doing good. I want to play in 1707 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 1: the playoff. Let's go, and so I think. But when 1708 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,599 Speaker 1: you give him a little something extra, like a Detroit 1709 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: Lions team who's the best things in sliced bread, where 1710 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,680 Speaker 1: they can show off and team really needs them, I 1711 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: got it. Let's go to me. That spells good things 1712 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,679 Speaker 1: for the next few weeks. Doesn't say too much about 1713 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 1: the early part of the season, when you know he 1714 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,439 Speaker 1: kind of disappeared and did what he could, but it 1715 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 1: does spell good things for the few weeks coming in. 1716 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of how I choose to look at it. 1717 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, we'll 1718 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 2: see if we have time to squeeze in a phone call. 1719 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,600 Speaker 2: Final segment coming your way next to here on one 1720 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with us all right back here on 1721 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 2: one of Bill's Lives, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. 1722 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 2: Sorry to Butcher and Judy. We're not gonna have to 1723 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 2: have time for the phone calls here were a little 1724 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,559 Speaker 2: tight on time, so we're gonna pivot to the tweet 1725 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 2: sheet here for the biggest factor, and a Bill's went 1726 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,439 Speaker 2: over the Patriots tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan 1727 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 2: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. 1728 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,160 Speaker 2: From the BEV the mental gymnastics, they have to overcome. 1729 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 2: The Bills are in the playoffs and could be overlooking 1730 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 2: these two teams. They need to push these next two 1731 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,800 Speaker 2: teams around and have the game in hand by the 1732 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 2: half start worrying about a championship belonging to Buffalo. Matt says, 1733 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 2: biggest factor in a Bill's win over the Patriots will 1734 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,200 Speaker 2: be the backups, because our starters shouldn't play much maybe 1735 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 2: the first quarter, then turn it over to the backups. 1736 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 2: They need in game action as well. The first teams 1737 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 2: can stand by unless needed. We still want the one seed. Well, 1738 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,639 Speaker 2: you can't have it both ways, Matt. You still want 1739 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,600 Speaker 2: the one seed. You'll probably have to play more than 1740 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 2: a quarter because you got to keep winning, right, Like, yeah, 1741 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 2: I think this game is going to be a quarter. 1742 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:45,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. You're not going to put that team, 1743 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: any of these, either of these teams away in one 1744 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 1: quarter unless you, like I said earlier, if you come 1745 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: out and beat and he went like fifty one to 1746 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 1: three against the Patriots this week, they won't want any 1747 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: part of another game with you. In two weeks, they'll 1748 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 1: be ready to call it quitch. You may get that quarter, 1749 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 1: You may be able to put that game away in 1750 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 1: a quarter, not this one. And the Jets. The Jets 1751 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere. They're gonna muster up enough attitude to 1752 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 1: come in and try and fight hard against this team. 1753 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: So there's that you're not gonna win. These games are 1754 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,840 Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. They never are. That's why you 1755 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 1: stay sharp when you're playing them. Even if they are 1756 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: opponents with bad records, you're gonna stay sharp. If you 1757 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 1: go in and play well against them, you're gonna sharpen 1758 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 1: your sword and you're gonna be ready to go. So 1759 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, they're gonna play as much as they need 1760 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,639 Speaker 1: to to put these games away. Don't don't think these 1761 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: are gonna be you know, high school homecoming games. 1762 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Tim on the tweet sheet says, get on top early 1763 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,920 Speaker 2: and make them one dimensional. D line should have a 1764 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,000 Speaker 2: field day if they keep them in long down and distance. 1765 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,719 Speaker 2: Patriots O line is a weakness of theirs. Good test 1766 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,559 Speaker 2: for our front seven with a mobile quarterback. Jeremy says, 1767 01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 2: not letting up will be the biggest factor. We cannot 1768 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,799 Speaker 2: play down to the competition, which has been a common 1769 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 2: thing with this team. I'lbe it a divisional foe. I 1770 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,920 Speaker 2: want to see Josh munching on sunflower seeds eight minutes 1771 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 2: into the third quarter. 1772 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:08,760 Speaker 1: I'll sign up for that after halftime. Uh but you 1773 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 1: know you got to You gotta go into this game 1774 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,960 Speaker 1: thinking that it's ultra important to play well right out 1775 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,440 Speaker 1: of the gate. Don't show up flat. 1776 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,519 Speaker 2: No, because then that prolongs what should have been taken 1777 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 2: care of right from the jump. 1778 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: You don't get to rest if you don't show up 1779 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:25,759 Speaker 1: bright eyed and bushy tailed. 1780 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,440 Speaker 2: Bill's Mania says. Bill's offense will continue to be explosive, 1781 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 2: although there is nothing for Josh to prove in his 1782 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 2: MVP case against the Patriots since he locked up MVP 1783 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,080 Speaker 2: when he beat the Lions, and then Christopher says, biggest 1784 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,680 Speaker 2: factor Khalil Shakir because he scores a touchdown in all 1785 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,840 Speaker 2: of our game. Shakiir should get two or three against 1786 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots. Maybe should be an interesting one. We'll talk 1787 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 2: more about it tomorrow. We got Greg Cosel coming in 1788 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,200 Speaker 2: from NFL Films and the OBL Friday fan mailbag. We'll 1789 01:29:51,200 --> 01:30:05,360 Speaker 2: see you tomorrow at one