1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news a single best idea 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: and after the marathon yesterday, thanks to our team for 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: putting together a special edition yesterday five hours of Bloomberg surveillance. 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, are we really going to cover 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: a hearing for two hours? But it was fascinating. The 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: special things to Terry Haynes at Pangaea for joining us 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: as well and other worthies to give perspective as we 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: go to our special coverage of the inauguration. Look for 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: that Monday, Martin Luther King Day at twelve noon we 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: begin substantial coverage into the afternoon. I know David Kerra 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: will attend there as well. And today, just within the 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: blur of bank earnings, Alison Williams was outstanding with Bloomberg Intelligence, 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: providing context to the mass and the scale of these 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: big banks. You've heard me say it before. I literally 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: think they're hiding how successful they are. That's a controversial statement, 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: but I'll make it as well. No controversy today that 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the equity markets of the worry, of course, turning around 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: with the CPI disinflation report. At a thirty Before that, 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: we talked to Michael Darta of Roth Michael Darta talking 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: about the end of the mag seven boom. 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: I would say, from a sector based perspective, the areas 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: that have really dominated the performance of the S and 23 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: P five hundred, I would be I would be cautious 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: on from here, and we know what those are, you know. 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: I do think this rate spike, certainly, you know, the 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: residential real estate market needs this rate spike like it 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: needs a hole in the head. So I do think 28 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: it will be damaging to parts of the economy, no 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: doubt about it. But if it, you know, if if 30 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: a surge in the term premium ends up being a 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: dragon growth and it's also self limiting to some extent, 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: So I think that can feedback into a story where 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: we want to actually be more bullish on bonds here, 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, still bullish on the energy space, right, you know, 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: looking to areas that have not been dominating the performance 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: of the S and P five hundred, I think it's 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: time for a bit of a switch up. 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Michael Darta Roth. One of the things we've done pushing 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: out I can't believe I'm saying this for over two decades, 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: is to provide a heritage, a character, a fabric to 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: who these people are. The first time I had Michael 42 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: darta on we talked about him, he was like, I 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: don't think he could shave with Judewininski, who was a really, 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: really highly regarded more conservative voice within economics and data 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: was I think just out of Wisconsin at the time 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: working for Jude Weininsky. But all these guests have histories, 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: they have heritages. Peter Scheer is with academy securities in 48 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: more than any do you want to speak to. He 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: is hardwired into the dialogue of the Naval Academy and 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: the other military services. We digress today away from his 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: ability to participate in the markets, but still be cautious 52 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: about some of the worries picking up there, like leverage. 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Peter Shecher on his academy securities, Peter Sheer on his 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: admirals and his. 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: Generals Beyond any individual. I think when our team talks, 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: they're looking for a military that progresses, figures out where 57 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: we're going to be. You know, I think there's a 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: lot of questions. Do these large platforms still make sense, 59 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: do aircraft careers make sense? How much money should be 60 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: spending on bent on drones? What sort of technology do 61 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: we need how do we go forward, How do we 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: make the military so they hit the recruiting goals again. Right, 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: something's happened where Space Force and the Marine Corps hitting 64 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: their roles. So I think they need to revitalize this. 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of concern about how this 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: is being led in the past, how it can be 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: led going forward. I think there's an optimism and at 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: the you know, individual soldier level, it's good. But how 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: do we prepare for the next war? Are we stretched 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: too thin? One of our generals, General Ashley, he quotes, 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: can't remember who he quotes, but this probably goes back 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: ten years ago. Our enemies used to fear us and 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: respect us. Then it switched to our enemies maybe no 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: longer respect us, but they fear us now. It's unclear 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: that they respect or fear us. Right, We've had so 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: much you know, measured response that we have to go 77 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 3: and figure out deterrence again properly. Deterrence clearly fell apart 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: a little bit. If a rans comfortable attacking Israel, if 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: Russia is attacking Ukraine. 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Valuable from Peter Scher of Academy Securities will continue with 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: our coverage, of course for the leadership of David Gura 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: and our entire Washington team on our political debate in 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: this nation, to the inauguration and into the second administration, 84 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: the second term for President Trump. On this commute across 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: the nation again, thank you. 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