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Speaker 1: Danna Stan Patrick Show. Baseball's All Star Game coming up tonight.

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Speaker 1: Pete Alonso wins Home Run Derby on what was unofficially

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Speaker 1: show Hey Otani night. USA basketball loses to Australia. We'll

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Speaker 1: this season, will make two point four million dollars as

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Speaker 1: million dollars in six hours of work for Home Run

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Speaker 1: Derby as he won, as he won last night, and

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Speaker 1: The All Star Game used to be a novel experience

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Speaker 1: for fans. The American League, National League. They didn't face

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Speaker 1: didn't like each other, and that all changed with Inner

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Speaker 1: league play. And it's too much of a good thing

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Speaker 1: because it's not necessarily a good thing anymore. But you

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Speaker 1: This is baseball's week. This is where you got to

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Speaker 1: with storylines last night with home run Derby. But you know,

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Speaker 1: real baseball fans don't need bells and whistles. It's just

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Speaker 1: fun to watch different players and showcase their talent. It

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Speaker 1: could be Otani, it could be Fernando Tatis junior. We

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Speaker 1: want to see the best against the best, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: we get that ideal situation tonight would be Otani strikes

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Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that. I don't care what else

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Speaker 1: But hopefully Baseball is able to capitalize on this opportunity

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Speaker 1: to showcase the game. And it started last night. The

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Speaker 1: DreamWorks animation showed the boss Baby Family Business. This time

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Speaker 1: download the app. Lebron James was a guest on the

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Speaker 1: SmartLess podcast with the actors Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and

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Speaker 1: Will Arnett, and they asked Lebron how long he's going

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Speaker 1: to play for the Lakers, how long do you see

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Speaker 1: yourself playing for the Lakers, and how cool is it

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Speaker 1: playing for the Lakers, a great, storied franchise. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I truly hope that I could finish

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Speaker 1: Lewis k uh That sounds different, like Lebron sounds different.

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Speaker 1: Talking to the actors here. You know, this isn't talking

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Speaker 1: I'm a club. Yeah, I listened to it. He was

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Speaker 1: definitely trying to talk to Hollywood talk. He was much

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Speaker 1: more interested in talking to him about entertainment than basketball. Well,

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Speaker 1: Then the group asked Lebron about the Jordan comparison. Is

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Speaker 1: up with seven titles, Lebron will still not surpass Michael

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Speaker 1: And I know this usually takes over a show whenever

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Speaker 1: just telling you. I'm a pretty good witness to basketball,

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Speaker 1: the history of basketball, going back to nineteen seventy. That's

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Speaker 1: and I've been fortunate to watch just about every great player.

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Speaker 1: Lebron is that one player, that signature player. Are there

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Speaker 1: other great players? Yes, there's nobody the magnitude. You can

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Speaker 1: And that's what is unique about this. And when he

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Speaker 1: don't know if Lebron can he be a second well,

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Speaker 1: media types like to declare this person the next. If

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Speaker 1: the cover of Sports Illustrated out of Chicago, the Next Lebron,

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Speaker 1: that was the cover title. Yeah. Soon, But it's part

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Speaker 1: I was. I was shocked, and I wrote about this

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Speaker 1: in the in the run up to the start of

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Speaker 1: exhibition play. In the early part of camp I think,

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Speaker 1: obviously you're surprised, and I'm surprised. Most of the people

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Speaker 1: who do our jobs are surprised. But the people who

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Speaker 1: know Kevin just talk about like this sort of single

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Speaker 1: affinity for the game. And I know it's a cliche, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I love the game, but I think he actually kind

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Speaker 1: of lives it. And I also think that what has

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Speaker 1: happened to him over the last couple of years with

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Speaker 1: these terrible injuries, has sort of driven home the point

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Speaker 1: of wanting to do everything he can while he still can. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, assuming this tournament turns around and they write

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Speaker 1: the ship, Kevin will probably go down as the greatest

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Speaker 1: American Olympic basketball player, which is I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he cares about that. Kind of stuff, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be something that goes to him. Keep mixing it

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Speaker 1: up there, Joe. We appreciate your time, Thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right. That's Joe Varden. He's

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Speaker 1: a senior NBA writer for the athletic covering Team USA

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Speaker 1: at the Olympics. Team USA lose to Nigeria, loses to Australia,

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Speaker 1: and they've got Argentina coming up tonight. A couple of

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Speaker 1: phone calls in here eight seven seven three DP show

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Speaker 1: Eric and Oregon. Eric, thanks for holding what do you

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Speaker 1: have a pit? And then I saw him outside with

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Speaker 1: the fucking boxer. Hey Eric, all right, Hey Eric might

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Speaker 1: have been on another call on our call as well.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty Jeff and Detroit, Hey Jeff, Oh no, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: somebody messes up all and then you're just happen to

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Speaker 1: come to Jeff in Detroita. You only did it once.

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Speaker 1: You only screwed up once, one time, one time? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? Welcome back up though one top of chat

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Speaker 1: row Baby listening. I'm loving these NBA finals they are

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to what we used to expect. Remember

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Speaker 1: the running Gun of the West versus the ground in

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Speaker 1: Palm that it Easter Sunds like some old school basketball

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Speaker 1: is coming back, and Dad, I am boy to Sidier

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Speaker 1: and I don't believe I'm going to do this. I'm

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Speaker 1: defended Lebron James. You will never ever ever find anybody

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Speaker 1: that has He's doing it to his nice years to

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Speaker 1: have the numbers that he's had and still be the

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Speaker 1: number one option on that team. He still is the man,

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Speaker 1: the man was terming the league in two, five, the three.

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Speaker 1: He still the man. Nobody. I don't think that'll ever

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Speaker 1: happened again, not in our lights. All all right, Jeff, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you great, too great to talk to you. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for keeping it clean. There is a report today that

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Speaker 1: talks in trading Ben Simmons are heating up, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they have a scenario of where he's

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Speaker 1: going to get traded. Mclovin no, no team, just saying

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Speaker 1: the Sixers want an all star caliber player return and

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Speaker 1: supposedly a high bar or the requests, so they want

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Speaker 1: someone really good. Yeah, we've been saying this all along

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Speaker 1: that I don't care what Doc Rivers says. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what Jim Darryl Morey said as they know they

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Speaker 1: need to move Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons, I think in

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Speaker 1: his heart of hearts knows he needs to move as well.

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Speaker 1: He needs to hit the reset button, get a fresh start,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think Philadelphia fans are going to let

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Speaker 1: him just sort of play at this level. You can say,

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Speaker 1: well it's an all star level, it's not really an

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Speaker 1: all Star level because I don't think you can be

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Speaker 1: an All Star and also be a liability. I mean

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Speaker 1: certain players have been that. You can say the Greek

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Speaker 1: Freak is a liability at the free throw line. Will

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain was a liability at the free throw line. Shack

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Speaker 1: certain players, but they made up. They were so much

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Speaker 1: greater at what they did well than Ben Simmons. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Shack's gone for thirty and thirteen. Greek Freak is going

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Speaker 1: for thirty and thirteen. Ben Simmons is not. You know,

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Speaker 1: he might give you a sixteen eight eight, but what

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Speaker 1: are you going to get in return for him? Will

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Speaker 1: be really interesting. Who's reporting? Just that's Sham's Cherinia from

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Speaker 1: the Athletic. Okay, just give credit. I have a question.

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Speaker 1: If you have like a top five picks, say you're

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Speaker 1: the magic or the Calves or the Rockets. Would you

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Speaker 1: consider trading a top five or ten pick for Ben Simmons?

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Speaker 1: You know who's still twenty five or something now? I

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Speaker 1: think he's yeah, just turning twenty five. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: team like Orlando, say you need some star power? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Detroit, now, would I give up the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick for Ben? And I would not? No,

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Speaker 1: we love potential. I don't know what Kade Cunningham is

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Speaker 1: going to turn out to be if he's the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. I sort of know what Ben Simmons

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Speaker 1: is now. Can he be better? Yes? But will he

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Speaker 1: be better? I don't know. I don't know what we

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Speaker 1: have with Kade Cunningham out of Oklahoma State or whoever.

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Speaker 1: You know that number one player is going to be.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm I'm a team that has I mean,

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Speaker 1: and most of these teams, these bad teams have no identity,

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Speaker 1: Like what what's Cleveland's identity? Colin Sexton, Kevin Love, I mean,

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Speaker 1: no identity nothing. Orlando has no identity, And that's where

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Speaker 1: you like, you want to be relevant. I brought up

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Speaker 1: that I love watching John Morant. I didn't know if

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Speaker 1: Memphis was going to be good or not. But I

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Speaker 1: was watching John morand LaMelo Ball. I wanted to watch

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Speaker 1: him play every night. Wasn't a great team. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Hornets, Zion to the Pelicans. They're relevant because you'll

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Speaker 1: at least watch They're not great, but you'll watch them.

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Speaker 1: And some of these franchises have no there's no star power,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing there, there's no reason to tune in. But

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Speaker 1: if you said, look, Cleveland's gonna play Boston and Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons was on Cleveland, I'd probably watch it. Yeah, I mclevland,

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Speaker 1: you're a Sacramento king said at number nine. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: actually they screw up everything. They can't even screw up

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Speaker 1: being They can't even be bad enough to get a

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Speaker 1: you know, a good player. Yeah. If Ben Simmons, though,

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Speaker 1: wants to restart hide out hit no coverage, go to Sacramento,

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Speaker 1: that's here we go. But even then, you know he's

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Speaker 1: got Darren Fox. I mean, there are guys that team

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Speaker 1: should be a lot better, and I need him to

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Speaker 1: go where he is the focal point, where where he

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Speaker 1: is the guy who's leading the offense, because I do

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Speaker 1: think you'll see a different Ben Simmons if if that happens,

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Speaker 1: um Dino in New York, hidno are doing? Guys got

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Speaker 1: a quick comment on the home run derby. But before

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Speaker 1: I get say that, I'd just like to say whenever

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Speaker 1: you guys are off and really amplifies how great your

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Speaker 1: show is. Um. You know you make it sound seamless

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Speaker 1: every every day, and I really missed you last week.

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Speaker 1: Some of the replacements are just you know, I'll leave

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Speaker 1: a lot to be desired, So you guys just do

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Speaker 1: a great job. Glad you're a Dan. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: didn't take an eye out when you were fly fishing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And the comment I found the home run

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Speaker 1: derby a little mildly entertaining, and uh, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of maybe to spice it up, they get rid

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Speaker 1: of the kids in the outfield that are shagon flies

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Speaker 1: and they let them use aluminum bats. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: don't want aluminum bats. I hate aluminum bats. I hate

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Speaker 1: the sound of aluminum bats. Because you would admit I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it would sound like with Otani with

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Speaker 1: an aluminum bats, So I would allow one, one at bat,

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Speaker 1: one round of aluminum bats for Otani just to hear

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Speaker 1: the sound of what that would be like, but I

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Speaker 1: was worried about about those kids because it's rapid fire,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, they're running into each other and

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Speaker 1: you're hitting bullets out there. I was a little concerned there, Joe. Yes, indeed, yes,

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Speaker 1: bullying have on stead of kids in the outfield shagon flies,

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Speaker 1: you have like a bunch of fifty year old dads

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Speaker 1: and flip flops and drinking and just running each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'd be good tvn What could go wrong there? Ryan?

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Speaker 1: And Toronto? Hey Ryan, what's on your mind today? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Just both the USA basketball going down and two because

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Speaker 1: in Canada we took a heartbreak with not being able

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Speaker 1: to qualify with all our NBA guys, do you think

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Speaker 1: it diminishes while having those games on while watching the

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Speaker 1: NBA because the NBA Finals is so awesome, and then

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Speaker 1: just tuning into watching Team USA and the International it's

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Speaker 1: just a bore. Well, I don't you're not going to

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Speaker 1: have you have a game tonight, so you're not going

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Speaker 1: to have that competition, Thank you, Ryan, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think it might help Team USA that people are watching

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals instead of watching them. Thomas in Iowa, Hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey, sixty three two seventy first

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Speaker 1: time caller. Man, love the show. Hey you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about I just want to bring up something relevancy.

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Speaker 1: What's more relevant than Tim Tebow? All right? My question

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Speaker 1: is I've been a lifetime Jags fan up in the

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Speaker 1: eye with my whole life, and it's a little slap

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Speaker 1: in the face. They're not playing no primetime games this year.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna get a couple? Be four years?

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Speaker 1: Then I doubt it unless they're gonna flex into one.

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Speaker 1: But thank you Thomas. He's a Jags fan in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the reason why you would get a primetime

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Speaker 1: game is not Tebow because it would be Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer. But yeah, man, if they flex into

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Speaker 1: a game, then great, I'd love to see it. Mike

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Speaker 1: in Ohio, Hey Mike, what do you have for me? Hey? Dan,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking my calls. Five nine and a half,

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Speaker 1: two ten and a half. I just want to call

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Speaker 1: out the irony of the athletes you've been talking about today.

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Speaker 1: Lebron talks too much, Otani doesn't talk enough. It's really

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Speaker 1: a no win situation for these star athletes. So God,

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Speaker 1: get your take on that. Okay, well, thank you, Mike Lebron.

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Speaker 1: It feels like has to comment on everything and do

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Speaker 1: I like that? No, But I also like the fact

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't shy away from things. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of athletes like Tiger and Jordan who didn't

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Speaker 1: say anything. There were athletes like Ali and Bill Russell

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Speaker 1: and Jim Brown who did say and Kareem Abdul Jabbar

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Speaker 1: did say things. I can only ask you to be

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Speaker 1: yourself when you're comfortable doing it, because when you are,

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Speaker 1: then we're seeing the true you. And if Johe Otani

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Speaker 1: doesn't talk, not able to speak the language comfortably, I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with that. If Lebron wants to talk, I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with that. You know why, because the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: what happens when they play their sport. How good are

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Speaker 1: they when they play their sport, and that trumps everything.

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Speaker 1: That's where you have Otani doing something we've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: Lebron when he's on the floor, it's still one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest players will go down as one of the

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Speaker 1: two or three greatest players of all time. I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with that. Mike Trout doesn't talk. He does talk, but

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Speaker 1: he doesn't say much Derek Jeter famously would talk and

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Speaker 1: didn't say anything for two decades in the media capital

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Speaker 1: of the world, like I was, okay, not everybody's Charles Berkeley.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's good that not everybody's Charles Berkeley. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Charles bet one hundred thousand dollars that he'd

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Speaker 1: finished in the top seventy at the golf tournament this weekend.

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Speaker 1: He finished seventy seventh. But I love that he'd bet

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Speaker 1: on himself. I love that. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: I know he beat al Michaels. I think Albino finished

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Speaker 1: last at the Celebrity Golf Championship in Tahoe, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I probably would have been there right there with him.

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Speaker 1: I think that when I played. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was Jason Kidd. There were a few few athletes

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Speaker 1: former athletes who put up some really big numbers there,

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Speaker 1: didn't do well, but you got a gallery there and

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Speaker 1: like they expect you to be decent. And I would

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Speaker 1: You've actually played great out in Tahoe. I was paired

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Speaker 1: And I went to the back of the bus and

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Speaker 1: out and play a round a golf. We'll take a

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Speaker 1: break glass call for phone calls, what we've learned, what's

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Speaker 1: in store tomorrow, that's coming up next. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: and I host the Three and Out Podcast. Do you

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Speaker 1: like football? Do you like the NFL? Do you like

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft? Quarterbacks coaches. Well, I talk about it

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Speaker 1: all on the show. I used to work for Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid as a scout. Now I give you my unfiltered

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Speaker 1: And you know we're talking college football because of how

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Speaker 1: important the draft is year round. Listen to the Three

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast or where you get your podcast. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we had just mentioned that, I guess seventy six ers

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Speaker 1: are starting to take a little deeper look into trading.

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is one of five players who

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Speaker 1: since joining the NBA in twenty seventeen. Ben Simmons the Joker,

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook Junior, the third, Luca and Lebron. It's good company.

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Speaker 1: He's not in their company as far as you know

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Speaker 1: He was just a great scorer. Luca is a I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a great shooter, but he is

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Speaker 1: a great scorer. Russell Westbrook is not a great shooter,

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing these guys who are able to do

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Speaker 1: ability to shoot, they're known for their ability to score.

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Speaker 1: But if they want to trade Ben Simmons and what

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Speaker 1: are you going to get in return? I think that's

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Speaker 1: a very interesting Yeah, it's a bombshell report though, ask

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Speaker 1: that they're asking for an All Star caliber player exchange

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Speaker 1: for Ben Simmons. Yeah. I hadn't thought of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that trade demand was going to be

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Speaker 1: for their all Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, there was a

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Speaker 1: like you need some sizzle or just keep him there? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can keep him in Philly. I

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Speaker 1: I really believe that. Uh, this day in music history, Paulie,

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Speaker 1: Tears for Fears? Okay, very popular one, number one Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well by Terrence Trent Derby came up. Where did Terrence

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Speaker 1: though recently the band was he fall? Was he the

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Speaker 1: You gotta pick one, Dan, just give away and keep shout. Shout, yeah,

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Speaker 1: right either way. Okay. This day in sports history, uh,

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Speaker 1: first World Cup held nineteen thirty in oh Uruguay. Or you' Aguruguay.

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Speaker 1: Sort of this Otani Babe Ruth scheme today bring it

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Speaker 1: full circle? Uh? See final results of the poll question

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Speaker 1: as the Babe Ruth of Babe Who was the Babe

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