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Speaker 2: We got to get a new intro. That thing is

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Speaker 2: it's Morning Combat time. It is the third of October,

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Speaker 1: We are back in duh bomb shelter.

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Speaker 2: This thing is enormous. How are you doing, folks? My

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Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. Hey, look at this BC who

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Speaker 2: is my co host as well. We have new microphones.

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Speaker 1: We're definitely better together. We're gonna try to see if

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Speaker 1: this works because I move a lot Lukes away, typical

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Speaker 1: Lapel Lavalier microphone might not be the right choice for me.

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Speaker 1: But this feels a little weird to start, very low

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Speaker 2: Well, see in radio, what they do is they give

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Speaker 1: We got a really good have you seen the ship

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Speaker 1: BC? How did we come? You know? I'm doing great?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Luke, Because when we get back together and

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Speaker 2: If all we ever get is a slightly more polished

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Speaker 1: Had, She's not going to win a title. Not going

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Speaker 3: I just don't really buy that.

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Speaker 3: And let's let's start with.

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Speaker 1: Love that fight. That would be a great fight to

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Speaker 2: I agree, that'd be a great fight. But dude, that's

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Speaker 2: a here's the problem with what Darren doing. Is okay, So,

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed how often her posture gets broken? She

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Speaker 2: like what kind of posture. Can she maintain when Chaney

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Speaker 2: It gets broken almost immediately.

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Speaker 2: If you can't maintain posture through wrestling attacks, you can't wrestle,

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Speaker 1: The number two. You see how often she walked into

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you against

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Speaker 1: There's just enough stressing in the sense that's keeping her

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Speaker 1: In the octagon.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of the areas in which she's lacking,

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Speaker 2: we're not even really seeing very much incremental progress. That's

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Speaker 2: just seems like we're still exactly where, Like, can you

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Speaker 2: Hadriguez fight. You just cannot say that. You can not

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Speaker 1: And that's why she lost, right because she her intangibles

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Speaker 3: She got two takedowns.

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Speaker 2: I mean it barely worked. And so if that didn't work,

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Speaker 1: She's not there yet. So we're both the established here.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing with Demi and Maya.

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Speaker 2: it was that third adaptation that he made where, for example,

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Speaker 3: If mackenzie can do something like that or.

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Speaker 2: She's getting because people are going to react very very

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Speaker 3: But the path she's on now, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I candidly and she you know, she took

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Speaker 1: Right, and that's why me presenting that sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess they've gotta be honest. I'm not sure I

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Speaker 2: what you mean. You mean, like how fearful everyone is

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's the combination, Well, it's a combination

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Speaker 1: In some respects, she's running out of time in terms

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing. Whatever I'm doing to hold myself back.

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Speaker 2: Care this looked to me. I mean, obviously it was different,

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Speaker 3: I'd be continue for a title or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know in that sense, but in terms of

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Speaker 1: And you know what lessons my fears is part of

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not, but just think about I mean, obviously

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Speaker 3: He only needs to use it when he wants to.

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Speaker 2: He can retreat to it, and people like Dern are

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Speaker 2: All Grady needs is two or good three takedowns like

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Speaker 1: She need a right, that's the but isn't that the

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Speaker 2: Yes, because she could, I mean her ability to a

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Speaker 2: want to deal with it. They just want to shut

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Speaker 2: down and stop as long as they can when they're

438
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Speaker 2: in those bad spots. But if you don't have the

439
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Speaker 2: other other mechanisms to bring those talents to bear, and

440
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 2: you're not making the development fight over fight, then where

441
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Speaker 2: are you headed? That's sort of to me like the

442
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 2: broader question here and again, two of eleven takedowns had

443
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Speaker 2: two sub attempts, had nine minutes and nineteen seconds of control.

444
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Speaker 2: Now I kind of blasted, not blasted, but I was

445
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Speaker 2: critical of people being like Raoul Rosas Junior, the seventeen

446
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,879
Speaker 2: year old, like he had that much time and he

447
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 2: couldn't get the sub. But that's over, you know, a

448
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 2: guy trying to fight his way into the UFC. This

449
00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,400
Speaker 2: is over somebody who could be a potential title contender,

450
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Speaker 2: potentially even a champion.

451
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Speaker 3: It's very, very different.

452
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Speaker 2: But the point being is, if you're Mackenzie Dern and

453
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Speaker 2: if I told Mackenzie durn you're gonna get nine minutes

454
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Speaker 2: and nineteen seconds of control sime to get the sub, she.

455
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Speaker 1: Should have gotten the sub. She should have gotten the sub.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean that's parts of the game. Parts are true.

457
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Speaker 1: Both both sides of this debate are true. Luke Okay,

458
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 1: all right, but I'll take somebody with that five round

459
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Speaker 1: guess tank, with that killer instinct if I can just

460
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Speaker 1: refine it a little bit more, Luke, Luke, She's going

461
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Speaker 1: to get there.

462
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Speaker 2: She's going to fight for a world title. She she listened,

463
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Speaker 2: She's going to win again. She doesn't turn thirty till March,

464
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Speaker 2: so she's got a little bit of time. And you

465
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Speaker 2: know she went to the UFC, let's see, in March

466
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Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen, so in next March that she'll be

467
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 2: thirty and that'll have been basically five years of UFC time.

468
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Speaker 2: But that that was against Ashley Yoda, Amanda Cooper and

469
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Speaker 2: then Amanda Hebas. Can you really say she's made significant

470
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Speaker 2: progress since then in.

471
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Speaker 3: The area is where she's weak.

472
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Speaker 2: Obviously her jiu jitsu is legendary, But in the areas

473
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Speaker 2: where she's week, can you say that after five years,

474
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Speaker 2: that's five years worth of improvement you can visibly attest to.

475
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Speaker 3: It doesn't look like that.

476
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Speaker 1: It hasn't been at the speed you would want it

477
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Speaker 1: to be. It hasn't been at the consistency you would

478
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Speaker 1: want it to be, but it has been an evolution, Luke,

479
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Speaker 1: Even if it's slower, sometimes in the direction you didn't

480
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Speaker 1: think should have been the right move to sure up

481
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Speaker 1: some holes or whatever. Again, if it was a different fighter,

482
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Speaker 1: a regular fighter, I would I'd be like, Okay, we're

483
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Speaker 1: running out of time here. This is a special fighter

484
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Speaker 1: in some regard, and I think, yeah, I agree, I agree,

485
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Speaker 1: there's you can put a little magic on it. But Luke,

486
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to come down to her looking

487
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Speaker 1: in the mirror. And I don't know the camp or

488
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Speaker 1: her enough to make a bowl claim like that. But

489
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Speaker 1: in the end, it always does comes down to, like,

490
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Speaker 1: am I giving everything? I popped?

491
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Speaker 2: I don't think she's not training enough. I don't think

492
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Speaker 2: that's the issue. Like I mean, I don't know. I mean,

493
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 2: certainly people around her could say better. To me, it

494
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like an effort issue. It just seems like

495
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: maybe there's a different way they could be going about it.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, execution, but that also comes from making sure your

497
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Speaker 1: vision of it is right.

498
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Speaker 2: On the show, she's weird in a certain kind of way,

499
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Speaker 2: which is to say a lot of times what she

500
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: would get is the people adapting from jiu jitsu to

501
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Speaker 2: over to mma. They did not have the composure under fire,

502
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 2: but they were easily not easily, but they were more

503
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Speaker 2: readily able to get the wrestling skills that they needed

504
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Speaker 2: to where they could kind of dodge it. Andre Galval

505
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: was kind of like that. Hadrick Gracie was a little

506
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Speaker 2: bit like that. There's been plenty of other ones. She's

507
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Speaker 2: she's a little bit more like no Gia in that

508
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Speaker 2: sense where obviously she had way better jiu jitsu than

509
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Speaker 2: Noghera and much better.

510
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Speaker 1: Accomplishments, but she has that composure.

511
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Speaker 2: Man, if you've got that composure as a jiu jitsu specialist,

512
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: can you imagine if she was able to march down

513
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Speaker 2: and then force Jean Channan to shoot just to get

514
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Speaker 2: the fuck up off of her, what she could do

515
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: and that way, she's a little bit different. Also, getting

516
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Speaker 2: back to Yan before we forget this, now we've got

517
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Speaker 2: John Wiley to it on Carla Esparza. We actually asked

518
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Speaker 2: Mackenzie turned about that for the title, who do you

519
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: think is gonna win? She thinks that Jeong Way Lee

520
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: is gonna win. Let's assume for the sake of argument

521
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Speaker 2: that she's correct.

522
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Speaker 1: John Wille is reformed enough, yes.

523
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Speaker 2: But the point the question I would want to ask

524
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Speaker 2: you is now, I do think that Marina Hadriguez is

525
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Speaker 2: the deserving number one contender, so they could do Hadriguez

526
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Speaker 2: versus chau Nan or androg just kind of floating out there.

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Jan's going to get it. But

528
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Speaker 2: here is my question. How big for the UFC's China

529
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Speaker 2: efforts would a Joan way Lee versus Jan Chau Nan

530
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Speaker 2: fight be?

531
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Speaker 1: Wow? For the title? Uh? Probably huge? I mean, I

532
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Speaker 1: mean think about it when they had you know, so

533
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Speaker 1: Jong Willy wasn't the first Chinese fire to fight, but

534
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Speaker 1: she was the first to win a championship and did

535
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Speaker 1: it on home soil with a great champion on drives

536
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Speaker 1: kind of running right into it. I mean, it just

537
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: was perfect for them, could you you know? I always thought, Okay,

538
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's perfect. It's just, you know, it's fate, Luke.

539
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Speaker 1: It was just the best possible put forward on trying

540
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: to expand and grow in this area of the world.

541
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Speaker 1: But putting these two against one another, Luke is like,

542
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: is next level. That's the cherry on top. Promotionally, it

543
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: could have a monster impact. It would also be a

544
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: very good fight. But what is the path that we

545
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: get there in terms of matchmaking, if that's in the

546
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Speaker 1: cards in the end, I think, I don't know.

547
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Speaker 2: I do think Jean Wiley is gonna win, So there's

548
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Speaker 2: a possibility there, and that, by the way, Yan could

549
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: get the go ahead just by virtue of the US

550
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: trying to build that market.

551
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Speaker 3: Never lose sight of that much.

552
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Speaker 1: Make Marina fight on Dorodge, they could do that. I mean,

553
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Speaker 1: as great of a fight as that would be, it's like,

554
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: what else does Marina have to do?

555
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Speaker 2: Just I know, he's so unfair to Marina, who's been

556
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: on a great win streak. So I think that Marina

557
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: will get it. And then I think the winner of

558
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Speaker 2: Yan Shanan just Gonedrodge.

559
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Speaker 1: Would be your number one contender, which would also be

560
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: a banger, which.

561
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Speaker 2: Would be a fucking banger as well. So there's a

562
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Speaker 2: lot of interesting possibilities.

563
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Speaker 1: The vision remains undefeated, Luke, I mean, be honest, it's the.

564
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Speaker 3: Best in class for women's MMA.

565
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: Certainly Adam Waite is, you know, making some moves and

566
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: bantam Waite's got the history, but strawweight is where.

567
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: Most of the action is.

568
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Speaker 2: And if any final thoughts on Dern about like changing

569
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Speaker 2: up her training to me.

570
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Speaker 3: I just want to add one final note.

571
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Speaker 2: I would like to see her approach grappling and the

572
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Speaker 2: transition to get it to the ground a little bit.

573
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Speaker 2: I kind of made this point earlier, but I want

574
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Speaker 2: to make it explicit, like do what Maya did. Let's

575
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: not try to traditionally teach her doubles. I mean, there's

576
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Speaker 2: probably a value to that, but that seems like a.

577
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: Very long play.

578
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: What can we do to like cheat the system a

579
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: little bit where we just create entanglement and we create

580
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Speaker 2: contact based off of the expectation that someone's gonna have

581
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: a standard kind of wrestling defensive response to a perceived

582
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Speaker 2: wrestling attack. I think those are the avenues that they

583
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: should be pursuing. That seems to me like she how

584
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 2: many fighters in the UFC in the top five can

585
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: you say pulling guard.

586
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: For them works? Not many? Mackenzie durn is one. So

587
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Speaker 1: don't you get my point now that like, if there's

588
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Speaker 1: the very rare fighter not to panic on. She fits

589
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Speaker 1: that bill of that rare, unique fighter with the who

590
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be too quick to say like runn out

591
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: of chances, no panic No.

592
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: But I don't think you have a great answer for

593
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: why the development is not happened.

594
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Speaker 1: I think it's personal. I think there's some disconnect. Maybe

595
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Speaker 1: it's a you know, I only have to train the

596
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: other disciplines at a certain level because I know my

597
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: base jiu jitsu is so strong. And I'm not saying

598
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Speaker 1: it hasn't been a lot to evolve, Luke, but something

599
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: in the wiring, you know, in terms of connecting that

600
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Speaker 1: to have the motivation and the vision and the execution

601
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Speaker 1: plan to do that. Something's missing. And she's close, Luke.

602
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Speaker 1: I think she may be closer than you think. Is

603
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Speaker 1: my whole point. It's a compliment in the end, but

604
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Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying.

605
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get a point number two. We stay with

606
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: the UFC card before we get to Bellatur. Very broad,

607
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: open ended question here be see, very simple in your mind.

608
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: Who else shined at.

609
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: UFC Vegas sixty one?

610
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Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me? First? Luke? Heres as I

611
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: try to remember what fights were on that card, you're

612
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: just high as a kit. That's not true. Well, listen,

613
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: you could go to the people who won the performance bonuses.

614
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you was going in the wrong directions LAPA clause. Unfortunately, Luke,

615
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: who makes Ray TV.

616
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Speaker 3: But yeah, he got hand on that guy.

617
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Speaker 2: I was going to go to actually just a second here,

618
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: but your performance bonus winners were Jaquim Silva, Brendan Allen,

619
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Speaker 2: by the way, had a nice win over Christoph Jocko,

620
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Speaker 2: Chelsea Chandler, and then Guido Kenneti having win over Randy Costa,

621
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Speaker 2: which is surprising to me.

622
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: Did you see the Chelsea Chandler fight. She's was her

623
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Speaker 1: USC debut and she's from Stockton and she got a

624
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: full mile ground and pound vicious. You know, TKO at

625
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 1: the end of the first is she is she? Does

626
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: she have hype behind her? Or is it just the

627
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Speaker 1: Stockton connection and the fact that she executed like an

628
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Speaker 1: absolute badass.

629
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Speaker 2: Didn't see enough from this to make a bigger call,

630
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: But you're right that one looked amazing.

631
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: There seemed to be some buzz built.

632
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I agree. I was gonna go with Mike Davis.

633
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: Mike Davis when his fight went to a decision. Sadik Ustiff,

634
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Speaker 2: by the way, was also a local guy out of

635
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Speaker 2: ThEC area. He looked pretty good as well, getting a

636
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Speaker 2: winner from Don Chanis, who was the Cage Titans one

637
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 2: to forty five pound Champion Connecticut represent Yeah, and then

638
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: just got I mean he was coming in off last

639
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: minute notice.

640
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Speaker 1: That's a very tough assignment. He got run over.

641
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Speaker 2: But for me, Mike Davis, this is all so an

642
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: opponent he had to take on kind of last minute,

643
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: so you know, you have to give some account for that.

644
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: But this is a guy who fought Sadik Yustaff on

645
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: the Contender Series and then he had a rough kind

646
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: of matchmaking run through the UFC, and his record doesn't

647
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: reflect I think how good he is.

648
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: Dude, he's jacks jack Shit's jack shit. I've never been

649
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: that jacked, like an hour in my life. You haven't

650
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: even been that jacked in your mind.

651
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to look in the mirror

652
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: and imagine how fucking jack that is. But he, to me,

653
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 2: this was a very complete performance. This was a guy,

654
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: as he noted, who loves to strike. I thought his

655
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: wrestling looked good. I thought his ground up palace pretty text.

656
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: You this because I was hugely impressed by all of

657
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: those positive categories that I was like, oh man, he

658
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: easily is the hunger. It looks like everything's starting to

659
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: come in together. So he's figuring it out, but he

660
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: almost kind of gassed too, Luke. It almost looked like

661
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: the back door was kind of hanging open. And so

662
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: the thing is with Mike, I've been very impressed by him.

663
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: It does seem like there's a few more teas in

664
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: his development and eyes that need to be crossed.

665
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, in the first round, he went after it,

666
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: and that's probably why he.

667
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: Was in a position, and maybe he didn't know what

668
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: to expect because this was all kind of last minute

669
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: and or a late notice anyway, and so I don't

670
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: know exactly, but I did think that I've seen Mike

671
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: underperform a lot relative to I think his abilities. I

672
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: did not think he underperformed here. I thought there could

673
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: have been a few things that were tightened up to

674
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: your point. But I like Mike Davis. I like the

675
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: way he fights. I like his physical attributes as well

676
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: in terms of like how he can bring that to bear.

677
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: He's going to run into a bigger name fighter who's

678
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: not going to know what's coming. He doesn't. He give

679
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: you that air like he's going to get a big

680
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: win coming up that you're like, oh shit, you know.

681
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he the problem was he got one of

682
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: those a little too early in his run. They gave

683
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: him Sadik Yusuf and Gilbert Burns within three fights of

684
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: each other.

685
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: That's just a rough, rough way.

686
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: That was a rough version of Gilbert Burts to a

687
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: guy who was like ready to sharpen that knife and start.

688
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was twenty nineteen. That was on the Jacquaray

689
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: versus her Manson card. So to me, he hasn't had

690
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: a chance to shine. He's been off for a while,

691
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: I think, so this was a chance to put things together,

692
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: and while not perfect, I thought he made a big,

693
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: big leap and then was asking for followers on social

694
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: media now having said that, you could go with Elier Latifi,

695
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: who had a very heavy breathing performance against Uh.

696
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: Like Luke, that was is just more beef than the

697
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Brandon wide CBS for coming up with that nickname. But uh,

698
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: that fight I told you was going to be sloppy.

699
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: It was way grosser than I even expected or wanted

700
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: it to be. I mean, first of all, Luke, they

701
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean they both kind of let it go around

702
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: the belly a little. And that's fine. Luke. You know

703
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: that in his forties, you know there was some just odds,

704
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: striking attempts and gassing and some good wrestling ability at times.

705
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: But dude, Latifi kind of went after it on the

706
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: mic afterwards, Luke, we will see him on have you

707
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: seen this Ship? Later? But uh it almost I was like,

708
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: is he going to retire? Is he asking for a

709
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: new contract? I didn't really understand it fully, Luke.

710
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: And then he was asking Zuckerberg for money, which.

711
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to help his cause of

712
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: getting a new contract. Zuckerberg is not interested in your post.

713
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Cut him, cut him, Dana cut him. Yeah, yeah, let

714
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: me tell you, he's not interested in your poverty or money.

715
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: And here all look, he's definitely entered. Yeah, probably almost

716
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: certainly in my emails. He knows your search history. All right,

717
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: let's go to point number three. Since you like kind

718
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: of punted the pin on the grenade is like just

719
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: it's just hanging, right.

720
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to point number three. We go now to

721
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: and by the way, of course, you're like, what about.

722
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: All the other fights. We'll get to one extra credit

723
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: of course.

724
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Uh okay, point number three, topic number three anyway, Pitbull.

725
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: He gets a unanimous decision win over Adam Borich. In

726
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: the main event of Bellatour two eighty six in Long Beach, California, BC.

727
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: Very simple question for you or I guess, I guess

728
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: a challenge. Rather give me a grade. Give me a grade.

729
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: You can win a ten letter ABC or whatever. For

730
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: pit Bull's performance in this main event.

731
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: A minus.

732
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: That's high.

733
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Okay, here's why the pitbull who we Okay, the only

734
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: question we had if he still wanted to fight was

735
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: really just aj McKey talking. Look, I think he's going

736
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: to retire after he wins. You get a j McKey

737
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: sort of like angling for a fight. That's a different story.

738
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: He came in here with big plans suddenly of like

739
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: potential Banham weight move, potential peco. I mean he had

740
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: all these plans laid out, and yet a thirty five

741
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: he went out there and we're seeing that two point zero, older,

742
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: yet wiser and more efficient pitbull because this was like

743
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: five rounds of disarmament. I mean, Adam Borsch is dangerous,

744
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and I think that Pitpole by controlling that distance so perfectly,

745
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: which is so hard to do when you're that much

746
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: shorter and your reaches at that much of a disadvantage.

747
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: Yet he was able to discipline Bortch because every time

748
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Bords kind of crossed that line, he'd eat a right

749
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: hand cross right at him. Or anytime Bords tried the

750
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: theatrical flying knee. I mean, Piple was all over that shit.

751
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: So he doesn't look like he's slowing down. He doesn't

752
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: look like he's lost a step. He's got big plans

753
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: in multiple divisions. I mean, Pitple is still that dude, then,

754
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: now and forever, the best fighter Belaitur has ever had

755
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: and still is. I mean this, what can you say negative?

756
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: This was expert execution.

757
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: I'd give it a B plus.

758
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Is it because they boot his ass? No?

759
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: That crowd there was not great. The crowd was very antsy.

760
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Strong Beach, Yeah, Strong Beach was begging these guys to

761
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: fight like moron so they could get, you know, some

762
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: kind of crazy action.

763
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, you just had.

764
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: The problem was and we'll talk about this, the aj

765
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: McKee and Spike Carlisle like that was like execution slash,

766
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: gang bang slash, you know whatever that was. That's a

767
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: hard act to follow. And so when you get that

768
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: followed by two very premier and aj mcki's a premier talent,

769
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: but in this case you know, that wasn't him acting

770
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: in a premier talent way, and this fight was.

771
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: It was two guys.

772
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: He had to be very careful, like if you're Adam Borich,

773
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: your margin for error is very thin. And conversely for Pitbull,

774
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's great either. So you had guys,

775
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: you had both of them acting a little bit reserved.

776
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: I would give it a high grades four. I thought

777
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: pit Bull was never really in trouble. There's been times

778
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: where he's had to rally and fights by being hurt

779
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: by guys he's better than, but then had to kind

780
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: of rally.

781
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: He never really saw the fifth round.

782
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Fifth round, when I think the fatigue of it all

783
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: kind of set in. Then pit Bull had to, you know,

784
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: take a step back. But it was only when he

785
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: took a small step backwards metaphorically speaking, that Borich was

786
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: able to do anything at all.

787
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like an execution expert, Like he can still be

788
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: that technician when he needs.

789
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the part that to me was interesting.

790
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: He was a great technician.

791
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 2: I thought the difference might be the power punching, and

792
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: it played a role in the sense that it disciplined

793
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: Adam Borich. But I thought he'd do more to damage

794
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: and then ultimately stop him or hurt him or drop him.

795
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: I did not.

796
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: See that because of the way in which Pitpull was

797
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: approaching this contest. I will say the point that you raised,

798
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: which was the one that built the highlights off of

799
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: all of those jumping switch knees, Pitbull read those a

800
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: mile away.

801
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: They had clearly prepared for those in camp.

802
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: And there's one highlight where you can see him was

803
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: the very first time that Borch threw it, where he

804
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: connects with a punch as he's throwing it, and you

805
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: can watch as Borch's other knees literally touches his face

806
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: and the eyes.

807
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: Of Pitbull never lose the target.

808
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that kind of presence in the pocket under

809
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: that kind of duress is rare. That is rare. So

810
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: for that reason he does this or a very high grade.

811
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: I just thought that, like, if you're talking about the

812
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: full pit Bull picture, you got the majority of it.

813
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: You got like an eight out of ten in that regard,

814
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: not a nine.

815
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I didn't see. So did you feel like he didn't

816
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: have the intent to finish or that? Oh?

817
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I listened.

818
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: I think he tried his absolute hardest, and you know

819
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: you had a difficult opponent, and so in that sense.

820
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: But when you get when you look look at what

821
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Tyren Woodley did so well. By the time he got

822
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: to the UFC walterweight title, he was already advanced age

823
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: but was able to just fight such an efficient, perfect

824
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: fight every time out, kind of fighting the other guy's

825
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: style or taking away the other guy's strength. In that

826
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: regard the fact that Pitbull can still be a badass

827
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: and can author this responsible it was like Jordan adding

828
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: that mid range fade away Jumpshitt nineteen ninety three, right,

829
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: just like, oh, now we see what he's going to be, almost.

830
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Almost like Saint Pierre transitioning over to like a wrestle

831
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: heavy attack where everything, all the variables are carefully managed.

832
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: He can do it on his feet. But it's the

833
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: same kind of idea, Like sometimes I'm like, oh, pit

834
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Bull should go backup to Lightwood, he should join this

835
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: to he should be seeking these huge fights. He's at

836
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: such a disadvantage, he's even at a disadvantage in length

837
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: and reaching this fight. Yes, so him going back, him

838
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: attempting this idea of maybe going down to Bannam Wait

839
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: and trying to become the really the sports first three

840
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: division champion, a major promotion at any kind of level.

841
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: Like this is so badass and admirable in its own

842
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: right and kind of Jose although model of what he

843
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: recently did, although this would be a third division, but

844
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: like he's also still really great in terms of fight IQ,

845
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: in terms of just like I mean, Luke, he has

846
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: figured the entire game out.

847
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anyone he can have tough fights

848
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: at one forty five, and the odds I thought were

849
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: a little bit making this closer than it needed to be.

850
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: He has no peer at one forty five.

851
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Now, if a J.

852
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: McKee dropped down, that kind of changes the ballgame. But

853
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: he even told we'll talk about this in a minute.

854
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: He even told Big John McCarthy in the postwar interview

855
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: he wanted to be in the one fifty five pound atorney.

856
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: So when I say he has no peer at one

857
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: forty five in bellator, what I mean is that McKee

858
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: is off to the one to fifty five races, leaving

859
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: what's there.

860
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: They're still very good fighters.

861
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't pick any of them over belt or ob

862
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: excuse me, over a pitbull, not even close now I

863
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: do want to talk about Borich for a second. What

864
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: kind of grade would you give him? Because I thought

865
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: he did his best. He falls to eighteen and two.

866
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: He's only got two losses, one to Darren Caldwell and

867
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: now Pitbull. Those are hardly that bad. He's just twenty

868
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: nine years of age. There's still some upside for him.

869
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean he can still grow from this

870
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: and all that. But how much do we hold against him,

871
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Luke that he fell into a bad pattern in this

872
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: fight and he could never really get out of that

873
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: bad pattern.

874
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I just think you don't think the boxing, the power

875
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: punching in the boxing of Patricio disciplined him.

876
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Every single time I hit with the right hand, it

877
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: was like a stop, stop that shit. It was like

878
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: whatever you're trying to build up as a rally ends

879
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm I'm obviously seeing the obstacles he

880
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: was up against. So that I guess what's his responsibility

881
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: at that point to just go okay, I lost, man,

882
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: We went five rounds. I tried my best. Or for

883
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: your your own per personal journey and your own legacy

884
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: and all that, are you supposed to go for it? Luke?

885
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he did step on the gas to close

886
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: the fifth, but I never saw him in a spot

887
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: where I am ruthlessly gonna risk it all to try

888
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: to win this championship. And is that a flaw? Can

889
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: he only win these fights when the advantage is in

890
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: his way? It's a legitimate question. It's a legitimate question.

891
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I just you know, it's hard to be like, hey,

892
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: go risk getting knocked the fuck out by Patricia who,

893
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: by the way, like, dude, that little guy is a tank.

894
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Would you say he's the hardest puncher at one forty five?

895
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that little dude could he knocked on Michael

896
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Chandler at lightweight with one punch. I mean, this is

897
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: he's got bombs. So it's like, I under you know,

898
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: it's I get your point. It's hard me to disagree

899
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: with it in the way in which you're presenting it.

900
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: At the same time, what a ruthless choice, Like Jesus,

901
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: you have to go out there and risk just getting

902
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: completely sent to the land of win. They might not be.

903
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's in him right. He's more

904
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: of a technician that's going to creatively walk you down

905
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: to get in and find you.

906
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: I didn't think he thought a bad fight. I just

907
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: think that night you thought a better fighter. Just the reality,

908
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: you fought the best fighter in Bellatore history. You did

909
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: what you could. There's no shame in that. It just

910
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna happen for him.

911
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: So it can't happen. But how much would a pit

912
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Bull Jose Aldo fight right now? At like, like if

913
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: it could happen, but it can't really, so how what

914
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: would you think? Would you get fired up?

915
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: Jose is a more dynamic athlete by a considerable margin.

916
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be awesome? Though? That would be awesome, I

917
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: mean that would be well, this is my question.

918
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: At one, I got to tell you this is where

919
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm at on one forty five in Bellatour. Obviously U

920
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: sees a different story, and I saw that, like Pitbull

921
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: was like, oh, Dana White's got no.

922
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Balls, dude, it doesn't.

923
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: It's not in Dana White's interest to co promote with

924
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: Belatour at all.

925
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: But it is in pit Bull's interest to just be

926
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: a bad ass and just shit on it, of course,

927
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: But like, what does Dana White get out of that?

928
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: You've got almost all of.

929
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: The world's best featherweights like, there's no real big public

930
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: demand to see them fight pit Bull. What would be

931
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: the point. Okay, neither here nor there. I'm a little

932
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: bit after this win. I'm not I wasn't despite the

933
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: crowd booing, I was not bored. But I'm a little

934
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: bit bored with the idea of Pitbull waiting around to

935
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: fight Aaron Peico, which we'll talk about in just a second,

936
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: or some other one forty five contender.

937
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: You're like, go to bantam Nune, go to bantam weight.

938
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: Now he already told us he wants to do that.

939
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: But by the way, when Showtime made the announcement that

940
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: Baltour was going to be on Showtime and we did

941
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: that whole thing of Mohegan Sun, Pitbull told us then

942
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: and there. I was like twenty twenty or something. He

943
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: told us then and there he wanted to go to

944
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: bantamwaight at some point now he was.

945
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: He got one of.

946
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: The goals down, you beat Borts. The second one was

947
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: to do against pic Pico. Again, We're not we don't

948
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: know what the hell's gonna happen there, and then it

949
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: was to go to one thirty five BC.

950
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: I think he should expedite his timeline. Am I crazy? No,

951
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: And I think his hand would get forced anyway, because Luke,

952
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: let's be honest, the best fight for Beltore to make

953
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: next at one forty five is the McKee trilogy right now,

954
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: because what Pitbull wanted to do was add Pico's name

955
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: potentially to his resume as his last stop and then

956
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: cut down. You can't put Pico on the spot after

957
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: that injury loss, which we can get to, but you

958
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: get my point, Luke, you can't. So is it a loss, Yeah,

959
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: but you get my point. It's not a real loss

960
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: and there's no win there, despite how the courage he showed.

961
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: But if you're Pitbull, you're right, Luke. What you just

962
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: said is right, go now? Because am I wrong? Isn't

963
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: that the move to make right now? Even before AJ

964
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: going to that lightweight tournament, the move to make is

965
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: to do that trilogy because you're probably never gonna have

966
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: another chance to if Pippole's really going that way and

967
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: AJ's really going.

968
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: And I saw people bringing up this point that I

969
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: just don't understand. They're like, well, the winner of the tournament,

970
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: you know, by the way the Stotts and Danny Staptello,

971
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: the winner well, I guess Maga Mana's tent to two,

972
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: but that side of the bracket, and eventually the whole

973
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: winner is supposed to get up there and fight Patricia.

974
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm supposed to fight Sergio Pettis. But my

975
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: thought is this PC, who gives a shit. The winner

976
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: of the tournament is going to claim the interim strap.

977
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: Pettis isn't in it by virtue of his injury, so

978
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't matter anymore. And so the point ends up

979
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: being why can't Tresio just fight Sergio Pettis. Winner of

980
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: the tournament fights the winner of Pettis versus Pitbull.

981
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have him fight, for example, one Archiletta

982
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: for a number one contender position. No in a rematch,

983
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: get it, get a good fight out of it. They

984
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: already fought. I mean we ran a different weight class.

985
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: But no, no.

986
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, like Whancho Letta did look really good,

987
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that real good. Yeah, I was surprised

988
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: how good he looks. But he came out to that

989
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: Mary Jane Weed music.

990
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: He did, he.

991
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: Did, and someone in his crowd, in his entourage anyway,

992
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: screaming bloody murder for him the whole time. But I

993
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: think the move for Pitbull go to one thirty five,

994
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: take on Sergio Pettis. If he wins, he becomes a

995
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: three division champion in a very respectable organization in terms

996
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: of what those weight class titles mean that it would

997
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: be historic, and I think that's the move at thirty

998
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: five years of age. Disagree, don't wait any longer.

999
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: Gold disagree with with the reason why I said it

1000
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: is because I don't think Pitpole has anything to gain

1001
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: by fighting mckheath third time, right now, right, you know

1002
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: you just beat him, You're you're probably going to be

1003
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: an underdog against him, right right. I agree you probably

1004
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: underdog or not, It doesn't I know that doesn't matter.

1005
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: But you go do something new, is my point. They're

1006
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: probably going to ask him or make him do that,

1007
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: So I guess you got to give up the belts

1008
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: and go down and go after it.

1009
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: And again, I wouldn't pressure him to go to thirty

1010
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: five if he wasn't saying it. It's not like a

1011
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: thing I would think of for him to do. He

1012
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: is a little guy at one forty five. He's not

1013
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: a big person even for that dude, Like I got

1014
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: the fight. I got the like, you know, I was

1015
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: in Max Holloway's hotel room before his fight with Volkanovski.

1016
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: Holloway is almost six feet tall. Pitbull is a short,

1017
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: small guy. I think he can easily make one thirty

1018
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: five and I bet his power there is ferocious. Serious question,

1019
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: assuming that the white cut didn't kill him, who would

1020
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: you favor? Sergio Pettis, Patricio Pitpoll. I'm picking Pitbull. Yeah,

1021
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: you gotta pick Pitbull?

1022
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Picking pit pull?

1023
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Dude, I got another idea on how to introduce Pitbull

1024
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: to the to this division, Okay, who Yoji hor Gucci

1025
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: in Japan and some type of rise and cross promotion

1026
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: yours Eve type Like, I know it's probably too soon

1027
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: to turn that thing around, but you get something like down. Yes,

1028
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: that's a great idea, and you know that that's like

1029
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: a Scott Cooker special. You know he would be down

1030
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: for that. Yes, that's a great fight, would be dynamite. Yeah.

1031
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Could that fight feel like an old Pride fight in

1032
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: a way?

1033
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, yes, yes, yes, the yeah you

1034
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: run a machine and yeah yeah I mean as part

1035
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: of a larger circus. Yes, it certainly could be. But anyway,

1036
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: that's where I think it should go. Now, before we

1037
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: move on to topic number four, let's quickly talk about

1038
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: AJ McKee. He and Spike Carlisle had like what can

1039
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: be described as, I don't know, two cats in a

1040
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: bag first.

1041
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds in the first round, which we'll see and

1042
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see it over your shoulder, was just

1043
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: must see car crash reality TV. We knew Spike Carlisle

1044
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: had it in him, but we also knew he was

1045
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: going to have to just fucking go for it. Dude,

1046
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: he went for it. You got to give him that.

1047
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: Spike carlsle go as shit. You called him a perfect

1048
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: TV fighter. I think it's an apt, very smart description

1049
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: exactly what he is. He is musty TV, like Peter

1050
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: McNeely against Mike Tyston.

1051
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: You just came out like a maniac, right.

1052
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say, well, for a

1053
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: while there when he was banging him to the face,

1054
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: AJ McKee, I was like, this is more like Raco

1055
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: safreddi and Lisa Am.

1056
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: You could have just did like a soft showed time

1057
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Red Shoe Diaries comparison or something. You know.

1058
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, here's the thing about Spike Carlisle, and

1059
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: this is why his fights are exciting, because.

1060
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: There's two things that happen.

1061
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: One he comes shot out of a cannon and it's

1062
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: just it's just all hell breaks loose from the word go.

1063
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Then he gasses, but he's so insanely tough.

1064
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: That he just ends up being in these long.

1065
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Miserable situations where he's being walked down or mounted, or

1066
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: everybody's sitting on someone's fighting off a choke, and so

1067
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: like there's this constant drama that's either way.

1068
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: Either way you get drama. My question is not how

1069
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: Spike looked. I think Spike looked how we kind of

1070
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: hoped he wouldn't do it.

1071
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Long run, he looked pretty good, right, I know he

1072
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: ask kick, but like he showed out and didn't get

1073
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: finished against one of the best fighters in the world.

1074
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: I thought he gave Aj McKee a much tougher fight

1075
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: than I was expected.

1076
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely certainly he made any questions we had of if

1077
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: AJ could fight this weight class. Spike ended up giving

1078
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: him the hardest test, like physically in the three hard

1079
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: rounds to really try to prove that.

1080
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: So that's my question, how do you think a J

1081
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: McKee looked at one fifty.

1082
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: Yes, So I think it'll get lost in how wild

1083
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: this fight was. And because he didn't finish Spike. And look,

1084
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: there were moments I'm going come on, AJ, like finish

1085
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: him already, you know what I mean. I guess Luke,

1086
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: to some degree, we have to give Spike Carlisle a

1087
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: ton of credit for just being stubborn and tough as shit,

1088
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: recklessly tough in some ways. But did Aj execute in

1089
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: just about every category. Yes, And because Spike came out

1090
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: shot out of a canon, it really tested any potential lingering,

1091
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, intangibles if they had been tarnished. It all

1092
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: from the first fight, and we know, you know AJ said.

1093
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: AJ was very open about the emotional breakdown he had

1094
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: after the loss to Pipull in the rematch, so any

1095
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: of those questions Luke, he would forced to answer them

1096
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: in the moment. And in that regard, he passed the

1097
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: test with flying colors. He got caught a couple of times,

1098
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think I ever saw him like wobbly

1099
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: or hurt or looking like he's in any kind of

1100
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: like real trouble. And he was always able to turn

1101
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: every advantage back into his favor and his ground and

1102
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: pound was pretty nasty. Would you agree, Yes, pretty good.

1103
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean he showed, he showed out here, he came

1104
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: with I mean he's supposed to do that in the end,

1105
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: and I know Spike made it more chaotic and fun

1106
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: than maybe it should have been, but he still dominated

1107
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: that fight.

1108
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 2: I would say that, you know, Spike has fought at

1109
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: one forty five, but he's fought as one I could tell,

1110
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: as high as one sixty five. I would say that

1111
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: aj McKee definitely can have success in this weight class,

1112
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: and he had the speed advantage. By the way, I

1113
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: thought he looked much quicker than Spike Carlyle. But I

1114
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: will say I don't think he's fully filled out. I

1115
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: do think that there are still a little bit more

1116
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: adjusting to the weight class realities that has to happen.

1117
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: So in the end, you got to give Beltorn Scott

1118
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: Cooker a little bit of credit in this regard.

1119
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: People were like, oh, this is a mismatch. First of all,

1120
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: it turned.

1121
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: Out to be not as much of a mismatch as

1122
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: folks thought.

1123
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: It was going to be.

1124
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: That's the first thing I'd say. Second of all, it

1125
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: actually turned out to be. And if you want to

1126
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: call it a tuneup fight. There's really no such thing

1127
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: as student fights in mma in the same way that

1128
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: they're used in boxing, but such as you want to

1129
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: call it that an easy first entry, relatively speaking for

1130
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: a new weight class.

1131
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: This was actually great for aj McKee.

1132
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: He finally got exciting to fight in front of his

1133
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: hometown fans. That's great, and he got a good but

1134
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: very winnable test against someone who's kind of tough to

1135
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: put away, so he got a full three rounds of action,

1136
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: got to feel what it was like a one to

1137
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: fifty five. This was actually very helpful for aj McKee.

1138
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: I think Beltore handled this the right way.

1139
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: I think you so too, and he got a chance

1140
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: to be chaired by his hometown crowd. I didn't feel

1141
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: like the crowd was reaching through my screen in a

1142
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: Dublin type of sense. Luke necessarily, No, the crowd there

1143
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: was not nearly as good, but they certainly there wasn't

1144
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: nearly as many of them as it was. But look,

1145
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: I just liked that he had to pass some gritty

1146
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: elements of this test. Skill for skill. No, you knew

1147
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: that coming in the odds showed of what type of

1148
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: fight it could be but Aj passed any tests that

1149
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: I needed to see. But in terms of the future,

1150
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: like you said, he still needs to fill out more,

1151
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: and he said that to us. I think part of

1152
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: the reason why he hasn't because he's not really sure

1153
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: if he's coming or going for sure in regard to

1154
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: the trilogy, and if whether he would have to cut

1155
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: down or would want to cut down to one forty

1156
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: five one more time. So Luke, if Pitbull is offered

1157
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: and says no, I don't want the trilogy because I'm

1158
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: going down to bantamweight, is there any reason to allow

1159
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Aj to fight for the featherweight title again before he

1160
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: would then slide up to do the lightweight tournament.

1161
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1162
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Like if it was a vacant and you make a

1163
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: fun matchup and you could.

1164
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Do it, it's certainly a thing that's on the table.

1165
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: I think that's a card you can play. If I'm belatar,

1166
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't play that card. I go in the other

1167
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: direction completely.

1168
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Now you've made the move. I think all roads lead

1169
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: and I do mean this.

1170
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: I think all roads lead to Usma Nimerga madeoff versus

1171
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: Aj McKee. I think that's where we're headed and that

1172
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 2: is just fantastic. I don't care if that take place

1173
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: in UFC, in LFA, in one in any organization. Bo

1174
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: Dog that is Bodog fights, So you barge fighting championship

1175
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: shouts to John Snowden.

1176
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: Uh, you could do.

1177
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: That anywhere, and it's first class MMA. So that's where

1178
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: I think they should put their energy.

1179
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: Just it's like caviar, Luke, it's like dressed ups nails.

1180
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever had caviar? Hell no, I'm not cultured.

1181
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: I bet you you have had it in multiple countries.

1182
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: I bet you I had no, just one, just one.

1183
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't really like it that much. It's not that great.

1184
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: I do like row salmon, row. What it is? That's

1185
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: just some dead gross fish. Yeah, yes, dead gross fish. Yes,

1186
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: exactly correct, exactly what it is. Look, if you knew

1187
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: the amount of times I've I have been presented with

1188
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: the chance to pick a meal in the first forty

1189
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: one years of my life, and how many times I

1190
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: chose violence and went right after the hot dog. Look,

1191
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean, just like you know, do not pass go

1192
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: go directly to the dog, you know, I mean, God

1193
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: bless you. Yeah. Well, let's see if I can lasts

1194
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: on this earth because of that. All right, let's go.

1195
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: Point number four.

1196
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: And the reason why I made this one separate than

1197
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: the aj McKee one is just because it was.

1198
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: Well.

1199
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: If I had to ask you what was the most

1200
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 2: insane mma thing that happened over the weekend, there's only

1201
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: one choice. Aaron Pico's shoulder dislocating off of a punch

1202
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: was not, by itself the most shocking thing. I've seen

1203
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: shoulders dislocate in combat sports a million different times, for

1204
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: a million different reasons. I've even seen him pop back in.

1205
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: What I had not seen before was when he goes

1206
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: back to his corner after losing the first round against

1207
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: Jeremy Kennedy and then his coaches frantically yanking on his arm.

1208
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: Surely this isn't Have you seen this shit?

1209
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh yeah, oh yeah, it is, of course, looke.

1210
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: That is hold on, before we talk about this, are

1211
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: do you have any takeaway about the fight's There's just

1212
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: really not a whole lot to say in either direction. Yes,

1213
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: is it should it be a loss? Yes? But is

1214
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: it a real loss? No, it's not. And I did

1215
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: you know put out a whatever tweet of a sort

1216
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: of the idea of this There is moral victories to

1217
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: be pulled from here from Pico for the toughness he

1218
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: showed and people tweeting back and me, you know, does

1219
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: you get paid for that moral w You get the

1220
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: overall point here, he showed absurd levels of commitment to

1221
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: wanting to stay in this fight, almost unsafe, almost reckless levels.

1222
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: So does he have to show that? No, but does

1223
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: that remind me who he is and that he's still

1224
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: it's very much in play that he lives up to

1225
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: the hype in the long run to go you know,

1226
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: a different journey to get there. But I mean, Luke,

1227
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: he's still coming the hell on as long as he

1228
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have any lingering injury from here. And I have

1229
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: to stand in salute? Would you disagree? You have to

1230
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: stand in salute at that? I mean he was basically

1231
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: trying as he was pinned against the cage in the

1232
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: middle of the round. He's trying to yanke his shoulder

1233
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: back in and he's standing there like this looked like,

1234
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: no ref It's fine, Doc, It's cool. I can totally

1235
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: fight like this. Yes, no problem at all. I mean,

1236
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous.

1237
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: It's like losing an eye. It's like I got another eye, like,

1238
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't need this first eye. Have you ever dislocated

1239
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: your shoulder? No, dude, I can't even if if you've

1240
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: never dislocated your shoulder. It's hard to explain. My brother

1241
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: one time I had to take him to the er

1242
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: because I visited.

1243
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: Him when he was at UVA living in the dorms

1244
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: and he was wrestling with his you know, college roommates

1245
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: or whatever, and his shoulder dislocated.

1246
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: I'd take him to the er, so I was there

1247
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: when they had to roll it back in, screaming, bloody

1248
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: fucking murder because the.

1249
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: Camera guy drew. He he knows that you've dislocated. Okay,

1250
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten? How painful? Worse than child? Dude,

1251
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to explain. The pain is so worse than

1252
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: the second needle of the three needle of a sectomy anaesthesia,

1253
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: probably because here's the thing. I had it when I

1254
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: tore my labor.

1255
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean I was falling out of my shoulder in

1256
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: my sleep and I would wake up with the shoulder

1257
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: falling out. Dude, It's like the pain is tell me

1258
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. It's it's so shocking it's hard to

1259
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: process and feel it feels like you're being electrocuted because

1260
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: you can't even deal with the shock wave of pain.

1261
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: It's like you get a feeling too close to the

1262
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: nerve and suddenly like you're just you can't that to

1263
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: your shoulder, which is a giant joint. This guy was

1264
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: out there trying to be like I could foci like this.

1265
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, dude, that he's like a soldier out

1266
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: there like that's I can't. I can't even explain to you.

1267
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: That's like a guy. Have you ever seen those Buddhist

1268
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: monks to like protest and the.

1269
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Chinese government, They would set themselves on fire and then

1270
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: just not move. But what's because he figured one takedown

1271
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: could pop it back in? Was not his goal. We've

1272
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: seen it before.

1273
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: There was one recently in UFC car where kind of

1274
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: popped out and then when they got when they moved around,

1275
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: it kind of rolled back in. It is possible to

1276
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: roll it back in under the right circle. How did

1277
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: you get yours back in?

1278
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: Rolled it back in?

1279
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: So it can happen under the right circumstances. It can have.

1280
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: So you think you think this guy was bawling, because

1281
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: I would be right. I would be instantly I would.

1282
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Just crying, you scream though, Yeah, dude, it's it's it's

1283
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: it's just it's the it's the worst pain I've ever

1284
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: experienced by a million miles. It's shocking pain, all right.

1285
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: So for him to do that, I cannot That's one

1286
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 2: of the most man toughest shit things on this all

1287
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: my life I've ever seen, I've never had.

1288
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: I it had to be as crazy as it is.

1289
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: It had to be to the idea of all, I'll

1290
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: just take care of this the next round in the fight, right,

1291
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: But just seriously, his willingness the second half of that

1292
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: first round was just ridiculous. To stay in like that

1293
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: and figuring he could do it himself or try to

1294
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: do it himself. Luke, what bonut? What is that? What

1295
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: do you do with that magic? As long as he's

1296
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: not hurt from it? What do you do with that spirit?

1297
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Because you got to plug that in because I mean,

1298
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna win a world championship. Well, this is

1299
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: my point.

1300
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't okay, this was a in one sense,

1301
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: it's no big deal because he got first of all,

1302
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: he rocked Jeremy Kennedy with a punch. Now, I did

1303
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: see Scott Coker being like Pico was on his way

1304
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: to winning. I don't know by what basis he's making

1305
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: a judgment. I mean, yes, the odds were heavily in

1306
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: his favor, but there's not any there's not nearly enough

1307
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: information to conclude that.

1308
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: And we do always overlook Jeremy Kennedy according to Jeremy Kennedy,

1309
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: and we might be he might be right.

1310
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, Jeremy Kennedy did what he was supposed to. I mean,

1311
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: he did exactly he was supposed to.

1312
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: So but you can't make a determination one way or

1313
00:53:59,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: the other.

1314
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 3: There's my point. So you could run it back.

1315
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: But this is the thing. Due they were yanking on

1316
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: that arm so hard. I hope there's no extra damage.

1317
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: We haven't heard anything, so I'm really hoping that's not

1318
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: the case. More to the point, it's like, dude, the

1319
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: MMA gods, you thought they were smiling on Aaron Pico

1320
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: when he was in Belitary NYC and that big debut,

1321
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: and since then it's been a.

1322
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: Rough fucking run. It's chaotic.

1323
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: How much does this set him back, assuming there's no

1324
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: real long term repercussions, is it that big of deal

1325
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: as long as there's no injury repercussions, because that's a

1326
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: different category.

1327
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: That becomes a problem, that becomes a you know, where

1328
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: you're constantly not getting him at one hundred percent or

1329
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: at all. Separate from that as much as I as

1330
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: I am sitting here and praising the ball, so the

1331
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: dogged ridiculous toughness, you do have to wonder if his

1332
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: uh if if he's unable to manage that that superpower,

1333
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: if does that lead him into dangerous situations in big

1334
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: fights and just reactivating that run he was on. You know,

1335
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: if you could tag him, he's just gonna go like,

1336
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: is he Cody garb Are we heading into like a

1337
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: Cody Garbrandt type thing where he could still beat the

1338
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: right guy in the right night at any time. But

1339
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: you don't want to see him get to a point

1340
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: where he's he's his own problem in the biggest moments,

1341
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, right.

1342
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: I mean, again, this is a freak accident. You don't

1343
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: want to read too much into it one way or

1344
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: the other. But I saw people a sleeping on Jeremy

1345
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 2: Kennedy a little bit. Yeah, that's the first thing I saw.

1346
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: The second thing I saw was like, dude, they were like, Oh, well,

1347
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: he's just going to run over this guy. This was

1348
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: his toughest fight by a million miles, in three years

1349
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: since his last loss in the cage. The six fights

1350
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: he had previous to this were against guys that he

1351
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: should never have lost to. Now he should still probably

1352
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 2: be favored to beat Jeremy Kennedy. I think I would

1353
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: still favor that, although I do think Jeremy Kennedy is

1354
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: a lot better than he was getting credit.

1355
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: But this idea that.

1356
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: It was just automatically going to be bestowed upon him

1357
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: by virtue of the odds being all crazy, I don't know.

1358
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: You need to pass that test. The ideal was he

1359
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: had a reformation project. He went back to Jackson Wink.

1360
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: He took six fights that were very manageable, which I

1361
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: have no issue with. I thought his team did everything

1362
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: the right way there, and he came out with a

1363
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: lot of verve and that he has some good power.

1364
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: But until you passed that test against a veteran guy

1365
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: like Jeremy Kennedy, we actually don't know if the reformation

1366
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: project worked. Now, the injury is not his fault, it's just,

1367
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of a freak thing or whatever,

1368
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: But I want to be clear. Has the Reformation project

1369
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: worked for Aaron Pico?

1370
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: We still don't know. We still don't know that. Am

1371
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: I panicking though, No, because I'm not panicking.

1372
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: He looked good for as long as it.

1373
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you feel bad for him because

1374
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: this is like disastrous timing. He would have been fighting

1375
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: Pitbull next for the title. Correct, correct, I mean I

1376
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: had one. If he had one, which by the way,

1377
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: would have been a That's a tough fight for Aaron Pele.

1378
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: That would have been a great fight to get excited about,

1379
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: to start to look at like, what the hell is

1380
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: this going to look like? I mean, Pico would have

1381
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: been a what do you think he would have been

1382
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: an underdog? A plus two fifty plus three? Yeah, around that,

1383
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: around that around. That's a tough fight. It's tough fight.

1384
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: But the thing is he could have wrestled him, and

1385
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: pit Bull does have good defensive wrestling.

1386
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: It's not the best part of his game. So that's

1387
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: why it makes it a little bit interesting.

1388
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know if.

1389
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: They're good you think again, I think I said this before.

1390
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: I think people should just go to one thirty five

1391
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: and then forget everything one forty five.

1392
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: We'll have to see if they're gonna do that.

1393
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he can't get a title shot

1394
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: off of a TKO injury loss. You can't do that,

1395
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: can you?

1396
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you can do whatever you want, Like technically

1397
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: he's got a six fight win streak.

1398
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, although did get that title shot off that

1399
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: Marice loss. That was a little die.

1400
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: BC last question on this, anyone else at Belatore two

1401
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: eighty six stand out to you?

1402
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, one, Archie leven, but your little look great look

1403
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: at thirty five you weren't sure are we gonna? Is

1404
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: this the beginning of the end for Archie elet after

1405
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: two elite losses, but both were title fights in both

1406
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: against very good competition. What he did against a guy

1407
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: who's toughest nails in Enrico Barzola was I thought added

1408
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: more to his striking game, the footwork patterns, the elusiveness. Luke,

1409
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: he's a He's an aggressive guy who is in your face,

1410
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: high motor. He'll take you down if that's the best option,

1411
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: but he's really just swarming you and overwhelming you. I

1412
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: thought he was more calculated in terms of trying to

1413
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: make the most of his power shots, but also not

1414
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: being there to get hit on the other side as

1415
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: much as we're used to see him.

1416
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean he had two I think stoppage losses in

1417
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: a row, Correct me if I'm wrong.

1418
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: Thirty five years of age.

1419
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: And one of them was the decision lost to Petis. Okay,

1420
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: so then the other one was the stoppage loss.

1421
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: But here's my point, Like two losses in a row,

1422
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: one of them via stoppage, thirty five years of age

1423
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: at bantamweight. You know that's not that's not young. What's

1424
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: that to me? Was not just that he executed. He

1425
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: took the fight to Barzola like he was standing in

1426
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: the pot. Usually what he does is he usually he

1427
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: likes to hit and go. He doesn't stand around too long.

1428
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Here he was not just standing flat footed, and I

1429
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: mean that, but creating a dynamic pocket presence in a

1430
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: way that he hadn't previously. He looked great one the.

1431
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: Way he would exudet out of two times. He wasn't standing.

1432
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: He was pivoting and jabbing at angles like Barzola was game.

1433
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: But he was overmatched. He was overmatched, and I wasn't

1434
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: sure how we were going to what kind of version

1435
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: of ARCHELETI we were gonna get a great ones, will

1436
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: we be got?

1437
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: He might get a big fight in some In some regard,

1438
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's hell.

1439
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: Your question about pit Bull if he goes to one

1440
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: thirty five is a good one, because this was a

1441
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: very redeeming performance for.

1442
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: It, and that's the type of guy Pitbull would have

1443
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: to beat to win it, you know, to be at

1444
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: the title level. So that'd be the perfect entry. If not,

1445
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: he thinks he should get Pettist on the comeback in

1446
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: a rematch. That's what I think too. Also got to

1447
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: give a shout out and we'll talk more about this

1448
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: on Extra Crowd. Do you think Archilla should get it? No? No, no, no,

1449
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: sorry I thought she meant Pitbull, but now I'm talking

1450
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: about one Archillo this. Do you think the Spaniard could

1451
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: could get a title shot off of this? No, because

1452
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: the tournament winner, because the tournament.

1453
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is too far behind it that way.

1454
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: How about JJ Wilson, New Zealand's own by the way,

1455
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: King Mo trained. So he got taken down repeatedly by

1456
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: Vladimir Tokov, and Tokov kind of kept him down for

1457
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: the entire fight. But JJ Wilson throwing up attack from

1458
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: guard relentlessly ground and pound from his back relentlessly wild,

1459
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: And I wasn't yeah, but I wasn't sure how the

1460
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: judges were going.

1461
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: To go for it.

1462
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: Some of the subs were very close, some of the

1463
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: reversals were great, but in general Tokov was more or

1464
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: less able to control top position. But the dynamic offense

1465
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: was from JJ Wilson. But know when someone's attacking off

1466
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: their back, even if they're like better, you just don't

1467
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: know if the judges are going to reward that they

1468
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: did they.

1469
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: Did they reward the flashy or did they reward if

1470
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: he had? I thought he did.

1471
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: I thought he did the most effective work.

1472
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I really really agree with you. And so by the way,

1473
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: shotsa King Mo. I've seen him do this a few times.

1474
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: He did it with Johnny Eblin, and now he did

1475
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: it with JJ Wilson. When one of his guys wins

1476
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, too tired or just kind

1477
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: of accepting the moment, he forced it, Be's.

1478
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Like, get in that camera, tell the world who you are.

1479
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: Let him know he's a great height to King Mo

1480
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: for that.

1481
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: So that's what I would say, but there's a lot

1482
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: of good performances on the card. Okay, last, but not

1483
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: least b s. This was the card on Friday for

1484
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: our top five points. Now, it was a lot of

1485
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: names that have a lot of even I think hardcore

1486
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: fans might not know, but I will say that they've

1487
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 2: had two events, one on Prime Amazon Prime Video.

1488
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: This was one on Amazon Prime. Two. We'll talk about.

1489
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: The larger card and the larger read in just a second.

1490
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: I thought it went extremely well for one. Let's talk

1491
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: about that main event the trilogy. And if I mispronounce

1492
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: her name, forgive me. Shang jing Nan taking on Angela

1493
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: Lee for the third time.

1494
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: Uh Shong wins, she wins. I thought it was close,

1495
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: so they judged the whole fight. She got a unanimous decision.

1496
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: Josephight as a whole versus round by round. And they

1497
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: also have by the way, in one, it's a little

1498
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: bit different. Aggression doesn't count as much as it does

1499
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: in the ten point must system. Also, you do get

1500
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 2: points metaphorically speaking for like defending a takedown in one,

1501
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: whereas in the ten point must system defenses its own reward.

1502
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: Okay, how did you score it? And here's my question.

1503
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: I think that Shong versus Lee the three fights deserves

1504
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: to be considered among one of MMA's better trilogies.

1505
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: True or false, Even though I'm new to this trilogy,

1506
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: I'd have to say this is true. This third fight.

1507
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: Was it the best of the trilogy? I mean, they're all.

1508
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: Kind of The second one is probably the best because

1509
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: of the late finish.

1510
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: But then they both had late fifth round finishes, and

1511
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: then this one, what's hot? I score it? You could

1512
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: have scored it either way. Did I prefer Jong in

1513
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: the end a little bit more? But I think Angela

1514
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: Lee in the post fight of you kind of laid

1515
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: out because of her steady, constant aggression and the fact

1516
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: that she was the one putting the threats of the

1517
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: takedown and really trying to force the clinch. I would

1518
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: have no problem with her winning just the same. But

1519
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: they both showed out. I mean, this was a hard,

1520
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: gritty fight. The only thing that really separated them in

1521
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: big moments, because this is kind of how you're judging

1522
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: it and scoring it was that first round when Lee

1523
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: got knocked down twice and kind of got handled a

1524
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: little bit, But she responded so great to that, and

1525
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: despite the damage on her face. They've been warriors throughout

1526
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: these fifteen not full rounds, but all three had gone

1527
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: at least gone into the fifth round. That I don't

1528
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: feel like they're done, and I don't feel like they

1529
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: should be done because they're perfect dance partners. And the

1530
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: cool part about it is each has one when defending

1531
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: their own divisions title and Adam Waite for Lee and

1532
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: Strawway for Jong. But I wanted to ask you in

1533
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: regard to scoring it as a whole. You just identified

1534
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: that the different variance in the scoring, you know, but

1535
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's a different mindset when you're

1536
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: judging it whole. How do you personally come like in

1537
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: using this fight as an example, come to the conclusion

1538
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: that Jong was the rightful winner.

1539
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: So Lee rallied big time in this fight. She got

1540
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: dropped hard in the first round. In fact, she almost

1541
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: got finished in the first I was a little bit

1542
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: surprised she hung on, and we even called it on Friday,

1543
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: We even said it's kind of striker versus grappler, although

1544
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: that's not quite true because of the rallying and then

1545
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: in the clinch work, I thought that was really pretty

1546
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: good from Angela Lee. There wasn't nearly as much you know,

1547
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: threatening groundwork in this one as there was in the

1548
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: say the second one. For example, for me, the power

1549
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: punching and the demonstrative effect that it had on Lee

1550
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: just weigh more heavily in my mind. Yeah, I think

1551
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: that's why. Again, hard to know because we didn't hear

1552
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: from the judges. I think that's what they went for.

1553
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: But I gotta say, dude, Lee got dropped in that

1554
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: first round. That was if that wasn't a that was

1555
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: a if that wasn't a ten point must system, that

1556
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: could have been a potential ten eight, and it was bad.

1557
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: And then Lee kind of steadily, you know, rallying lest

1558
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: center parts of that lip, pressing her up against the fence.

1559
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: Some of her known deficiencies played a role. Immediately we

1560
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: knew she was hit a ble. You saw that in

1561
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: the first round. But then she was kind of able

1562
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: to get the fight along the fence line and kind

1563
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: of keep it in close quarters and it was a

1564
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: much more manageable battle there. But then I thought Seong

1565
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: had a bit of a not a late fight rally.

1566
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: That fifth round was a little bit up in the

1567
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: air too, but just kind of rescued any potential major

1568
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: rally from taking place by Lee. But either way, these

1569
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: two are well suited for each other. I don't know

1570
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: if you saw this later on the I don't know

1571
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: what his official title is, Emperor at at One or

1572
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: you know, godlike creature or whatever his name.

1573
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: Is you talk about. I don't know what the head

1574
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: of the Apprentice One Championshi. I don't know what his

1575
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: official title is. Presidency producer of an award winning twin show,

1576
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: the guy.

1577
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: Who runs it essentially as the head promoter there.

1578
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: He argued that he thought Lee had won at least

1579
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: kind of like a favored fighter within the promotion.

1580
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: At least that's the perception.

1581
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: There's a video later on of seng Uh jing Nan

1582
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: talking about it, getting fucking pissed. Yo, she's a bet,

1583
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: do you dude?

1584
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: Her face when Chowtrey put the belt on her and

1585
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: she gets right in the camera.

1586
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: You know what it reminded me of.

1587
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: I think it was it was like the second maybe

1588
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: it was the second JDS fight with Kang or King

1589
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: Velaskiz where JDS goes to the middle and then does

1590
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: that bit.

1591
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: Where he drops his hand like a sword, and then

1592
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: Kan got.

1593
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: Right in his fucking face and went like this, dude, I.

1594
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Got the chills when that happened. Do you know the

1595
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: aura I get from Jung? It's almost like half John

1596
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: Lennonker half Jessica and drawg It's like a little bit,

1597
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 1: it's like a tank. Yeah, I mean she is, and

1598
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: who's it? So I'm trying to figure out the way.

1599
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: So she's the naturally bigger fighter shot, Yes, in terms

1600
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: of the weight classes, this was this was Lee trying

1601
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: to capture a second weight class.

1602
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 4: Hut.

1603
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: Yes, her power shots in the end, I guess would

1604
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: be the reason why if I had to choose, I

1605
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: would have chosen her. But I'm I guess I'm not critical,

1606
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: but I want to know more about what the differences

1607
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: are in trying to score as a whole, because is

1608
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: it always going to be where whoever has if it's

1609
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: close enough, whoever had the bigger moment, Because nobody ended

1610
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: up having a bigger moment than those two knockdowns from

1611
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Jong in the second half of that first round. So

1612
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: do the judges look at it maybe sometimes to a

1613
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: fault more like that, or are you still taking one's

1614
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: totality against the other in weighing it out.

1615
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: Again because there's a lack of transparency in terms of

1616
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: and by the way, I don't mean like you know,

1617
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: like there's something nefarious. I just mean we don't hear

1618
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: from the judges, so it's hard to say exactly what

1619
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: they see and under what circumstance they make their broader judgments.

1620
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: I tend to think that that is a risk of

1621
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: that system. I can't remember the name of the fighters

1622
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: was a while ago, but I did see one where

1623
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: a guy got dropped in the first and then ultimately

1624
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: won it. In fact, that when I was telling you

1625
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: about pet Morricott taken on the Frenchman and that way,

1626
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: that's different because that's momuay Thai. But yeah, that's different

1627
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: because they do judge it by a five round system

1628
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: there and they have scorecards. Nevertheless, I have seen it

1629
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: circumstances where it has happened. I do think it's a

1630
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: risk where if someone just has a dynamic moment early,

1631
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: it's just cloudier judgment for the duration of the bat

1632
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: unless they do something else equally or even more dynamic.

1633
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: Hard to say, I do think in general, you get

1634
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: better decisions with their system than you do the ten

1635
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 2: point MUST system well though. Funnily enough, Angela Lee after

1636
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: the fight being like, well, I like our system, but

1637
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: I think there should be some adjustments made in closer

1638
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: to the ten.

1639
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: Point MUST system, and I'm like, please fuck no. I liked.

1640
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: I thought the announced trio improved and their chemistry got

1641
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot better this summer route this time, and I thought,

1642
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: what they do Maybe I don't know if one's been

1643
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: doing this forever, but I just sort of finally noticed it,

1644
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: putting the championship belt right behind the cage, Like, I

1645
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: don't know how smart their cage is at the end

1646
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: of the day. Could it tell me my working heart

1647
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: rate just by me standing in it?

1648
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: Is it called uber eats? I don't know, but I'll.

1649
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: Tell you what it does. Do you haven't that championship

1650
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: belt right there? Not only for the does it double

1651
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: down on like the romanticisms of the stakes You have

1652
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: to believe for the fighters, especially if you're like, you know,

1653
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: somebody's got you in a rare naked from behind it,

1654
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: but you can visibly see what you're fighting for right there.

1655
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of you.

1656
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: They've got in that too, me like suitcase.

1657
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't be like dry ice behind there with

1658
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: like some smoke coming on.

1659
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: Do you have any I've said this, bore, Do you

1660
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: have any to meuggage? No, it's nice, but it's like

1661
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: comically overpriced. Like I went to go get one and

1662
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: it was like haircut of like worse worse. I went

1663
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: into one and it was like one of those standard

1664
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: roller backs, not big enough where you are so, not

1665
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: small enough where you could take on a plane, but

1666
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: not gigantic r just big enough. We had to check

1667
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: it and it was like six hundred dollars. I'm like,

1668
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking buying this. And then I got one

1669
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: at Target, which I'm sure is not nearly as nice,

1670
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: but it was sixty and I'm like, I'm gonna get

1671
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: the cheap one, Tom, He's nice overpriced, I mean, I mean, do.

1672
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: You think that Target is like demonstratively nicer than Cole's

1673
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: Luke or do you think they're just both, you know,

1674
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: like Walmart pluses in the end.

1675
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 3: I think Target is a little bit nicer.

1676
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still a little bit dubty, just kind

1677
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: of crawling around the edges, you know what I mean.

1678
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: Like, right, it's a little bit dubty at times, but

1679
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: I do think I say this much like the Target

1680
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: brand clothes are a little bit nicer than like the

1681
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: generic shit that Walmart sells.

1682
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a little bit true. I could

1683
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 3: be wrong, but.

1684
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: Is there any other feeling in retail shopping? Like walking

1685
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: into like an ocean state job lot and it's just

1686
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: like that grime comes over you, but like you're like,

1687
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: should I welcome this evil spirit? Or should I push

1688
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: it away?

1689
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, I used to shop at Burlington

1690
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: Code Factory, but I mean, you're lucky if you don't

1691
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: come home with like a bed bug infestation office like Eblin.

1692
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: Do you ever actually go there? Not Johnny Evlin, Eblins?

1693
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if we had that. Evan Lennar at

1694
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: it again? Saving your money at Eblin's all right, I guess.

1695
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: Last thing on this. So there was a much more

1696
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: that happened on the car. We don't have a lot

1697
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: of time to get to it. But what would what

1698
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: would be the grade you would give one through two

1699
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: events on prime video?

1700
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: And now here's what I'm saying.

1701
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't have any clue what numbers they're pulling, and

1702
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm guessing nothing significant.

1703
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Although there was a one ad that.

1704
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 2: I think al Michael's stumbled through like a motherfucker trying

1705
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 2: to read on Thursday night football. Nevertheless, they did have

1706
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of promotion cage fighting, you do. He's like,

1707
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: he's like super Bond versus you know, Rody.

1708
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: He can't do it.

1709
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is absent whatever

1710
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: they're pulling, which really is the only determinant whether they

1711
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: will continue. Just in terms of quality, I have been

1712
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: extremely impressed. They have had really good plus events B plus.

1713
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 3: I would say a minus. I think you're being a hunter.

1714
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I.

1715
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 3: Mean, could this be more obtrusive?

1716
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean I was going to bring it up. I

1717
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing right here. Well, I mean

1718
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't fucking plug it to my collar.

1719
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: They could run, they could run a bus boy out

1720
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: here or something, you know, a bus boy or one

1721
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: of these cameramen who are all on their phones. I mean,

1722
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: how's TikTok, big luke, how's TikTok? Hey don't disparage Jake

1723
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: over there though, because his latest stock is just the balls, right,

1724
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: I mean answered the question about one on Prime video?

1725
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: B plus. I thought I thought that's generous look, the

1726
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: look that has the met okay, it's it's it's been

1727
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: very good. Has it had you like jumping off of

1728
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, jumping over a fence to get to it? Yet,

1729
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: in terms of like what the card on paper is

1730
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: screaming to you collect over two fight cards? No, Luke,

1731
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: do I like a lot about the broadcast? Yes? Do

1732
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: I like the more? Of all the promotions does this have?

1733
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: Does this promotion present the most pure feeling of like

1734
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: bushido class martial arts? No, all that is just pomp

1735
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: and circumstances. But I think it's real when you're watching it.

1736
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: I think they do. If that means anything, really, if

1737
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: that means anything to you, they have that they offer that.

1738
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 3: That to me is the least of it.

1739
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: I think that their commentators sounded better.

1740
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: This is not like getting Wally sauce on the steak.

1741
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,959
Speaker 1: What is Wally sauce? There's all these sauces for steaks.

1742
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: That's for blue cheese dressing.

1743
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: But what I was gonna say was I think that

1744
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: the cards have looked excellent. I think the quality has

1745
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: been very high. They've gotten a little you know, listen,

1746
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 2: any kind of promotion with any kind of show, UFC

1747
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: belt or one doesn't matter. Part of it is engineering

1748
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: and part of it is luck. And they've had some

1749
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: good luck in the way which things have played out.

1750
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: But are they putting their best foot forward by and

1751
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: large with these one on video cards?

1752
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: And then the luck is adding to it. I give

1753
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: him a high grade.

1754
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: I think plus. He's really high, you know, I think

1755
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: I think he's been a minus cards and you know

1756
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: me like, I don't, but I have a different grading expectation.

1757
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you need more on my car. You're in

1758
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: the math club, Luke. Okay, you know what I mean.

1759
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: They're doing just fine, Luke in the Singapore nightlife. Does

1760
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: Brent Stover clean up after those cards? Because you always

1761
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: a country singer? Do you ever see him, Luke? I've

1762
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: never seen him on Instagram? No. Oh, he's like a

1763
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: successful touring country singer for real. Yeah. Hot Stove that's

1764
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: what I call him. You know, do you think that

1765
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: hot Stove is heating up Singapore? Just just slinging that date? Okay,

1766
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: that went too far that well? I said defense, he's

1767
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: learning defense the dcord.

1768
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll just say this lastly, I think that it's

1769
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: been you know, home run. It's hard to know about

1770
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: the numbers, but in terms of like what they could

1771
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: reasonably do on their end to put out a dynamic product,

1772
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: it's been. It's been a home run for them, and

1773
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: I don't say that quite lightly. All Right, that's it

1774
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: for our top five. We'll get some more of this stuff.

1775
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: By the way, there was another guy on so people

1776
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 2: on the car. We'll talk about extra credit. But for

1777
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: today's dude, mclovin.

1778
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:08,520
Speaker 1: The dude with the glasses.

1779
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: Oh, Mikey, ye, No, his match kind of sucked. Wasn't

1780
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: that great? I mean, he tried, but we might be

1781
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 2: hearing from him. He called out very respectfully Demetrius Johnson,

1782
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 2: who wants a match with him.

1783
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Mikey, Mikey, what are you doing. Hey,

1784
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: Mikey's back from Amsterdam, our producer.

1785
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he frit a few brain cells there.

1786
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: I can't say that kind of stuff. I mean just drooling.

1787
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we expect it, you know, we expect that

1788
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: to be all.

1789
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Right, it's time for dms from dogs. Let's get to it,

1790
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 2: all right, all right, So we put up a post

1791
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: on Instagram. You guys fill it up. The producer's pick

1792
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: questions and then we answered him on Monday show from

1793
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: uh russ e K the human Should Dern seek out

1794
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: a new coach whose strength is wrestling seems like a

1795
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: missing part of her game to probably she has Jason Perilla,

1796
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: who is a proven coach. I'm not saying a ton

1797
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,520
Speaker 2: of improvement in her striking either. I don't know that

1798
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: that's the issue.

1799
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: So rather than try to make her completely well rounded

1800
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: across the board, and it just may not be who

1801
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: she's going to be in the end, the spirit of

1802
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: this question was should the new focus, whether that would

1803
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: come through a new coach, the addition of a coach

1804
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: to the staff, or just a change in mindset to

1805
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: become an offensive wrestler. Is could that mitigate what she's

1806
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: missing in her game for not having consistent offense. Sometimes

1807
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: that jab is there and the right hand follows it,

1808
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: but it's not consistent enough, it's sloppy. With the offensive

1809
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: wrestling threat replaced that effectively, is that the lean that

1810
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: she should go to get to the title of the

1811
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: quickest Luke.

1812
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: I think you could go we said this on Friday.

1813
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: I think you could go either of those routes, but

1814
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: you need to go one of them. You need to

1815
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: go one of them. Because here's the other part too.

1816
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: If she could punch her way into the clinch, that

1817
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: would be huge, right, Demi and Maya. I wasn't like

1818
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: he had a batch and he could take a beating too.

1819
01:14:55,120 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: But her composure under fire is remarkably good. But you know,

1820
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to lean on it as much as

1821
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: she does. And that's the other part too. It's not

1822
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: gonna last forever. That's gonna go away over time.

1823
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: You can still win a championship with that if the

1824
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: matchmaking is right.

1825
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 3: It's hard to win.

1826
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to win a championship with a skill set

1827
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: this limited it is you get.

1828
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: Brock Lesner feels in some small regard with.

1829
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: Brock Lesner had like submissions which he got on Shane Carwin.

1830
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: He had very good ground and pound and he had

1831
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: a physical, hulking presence over those the other heavyweights that

1832
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: like dude, when he fought Cotur, like God bless Katur

1833
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: for fighting that gorilla.

1834
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: But dude, there was a massive right hand, that right

1835
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: cross that finished him. That was pretty legit, right, It

1836
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: was sure shut him down, You mean, yeah, like that

1837
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: It was short, but it was on the money, Luke.

1838
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he has to move very much to

1839
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: land with authority, you know, once you hit him. I

1840
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 2: think our next one is Grant's pictures. That sounds like

1841
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: a thrilling account. Who has a better chance against the

1842
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: vulcan a J McKee or Pitbull pit Bull does?

1843
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: Right? What about May's ability to jump submission? He's the

1844
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: thing can match you in every category. But are there

1845
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: enough categories where he's as good or potentially better than

1846
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: Vulk to be more of a threat that if the

1847
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 1: right fight happened at the right time and the stakes

1848
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: win his way, McKee can can go to two second

1849
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: levels that are just ridiculous in terms of snatching up

1850
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: a submission or creatively finding striking opportunities. I'm not trying

1851
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: to say he doesn't have blemishes or vulnerabilities. He does,

1852
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: but I still think he's on the right trajectory coming

1853
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: off of that Spike fight. Yeah. Uh, the smarter pick

1854
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: is Pitbull. But I don't think you're wrong in saying McKee,

1855
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're gonna lean that way, Luke,

1856
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: you don't like to go that way. Though this is

1857
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: not a Luke.

1858
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: I'll just say this I think Vulk beats either of them.

1859
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that I don't think that's what we're trying to debate.

1860
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: Has the better shot, Okay, A J McKee is a

1861
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: more dynamic athlete. I think that's real, probably more well

1862
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: rounded in areas where he could pair that. But the

1863
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: power punching of Pitt Bull is to me a difference maker. Yeah,

1864
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: and he'll sub you out, Dude, he can sub you.

1865
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: Ey's got a good guillotine and Volk's been hit a lot.

1866
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't take a lot of damage, but he has

1867
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: been dropped several times. And so you know, again, I'm

1868
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: to be clear, I'm picking Volk to I think he's

1869
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 2: the best one forty five on Earth, irrespective of organization.

1870
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: But dude, Vulk had big balls against Ortega, true or false? Yeah,

1871
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if we give him enough man respect.

1872
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: I was going to say he has big balls against

1873
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: all of us, the punds, but then he just gets weird,

1874
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: you know when you say that. So I mean, like

1875
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: we will never you know, he can be a pump

1876
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: for Punk King. I mean, he's he's the punk. He's

1877
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: freaking great.

1878
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best fighter in the sport period.

1879
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: But what I also said is true, Luke. He had

1880
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: a u his balls against Ortega and and his backbone,

1881
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: and we found out that it was. I mean, it

1882
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: was fairly even.

1883
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,919
Speaker 3: The cameraman's like, I can't believe I'm here, twelve.

1884
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: Am fairly good sized. In the end, we found out

1885
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: from Telvin ky Papa, Oh, that guy's from Hawaii. Put

1886
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: some respect on that way. Five. Oh bitch, if you

1887
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: guys had a chance to buy out a he wrote

1888
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: a event and event, bar, restaurant, et cetera, to yourself,

1889
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: what place would it be? That's a great question. So

1890
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: what do you mean to do a live show? No?

1891
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: No, Like if you let's say you had stupid money, right,

1892
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: just limitless money, and you wanted to rent something out

1893
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: for whatever occasion.

1894
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: Is there like a venue that you're like, man, I

1895
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: fucking love to run death place out Taco Bell downstairs

1896
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: and if it had the canteena option on the back, Yeah,

1897
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: that's probably. There's no iconic like Webster Hall in New

1898
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: York City or something like that to perform this show

1899
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: or is he talking about in some men.

1900
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: Doesn't He doesn't say, But I'm a whatever reason a

1901
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: birthday party again, we're living in a world you have

1902
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: unlimited money.

1903
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a different connotation if I'm the rock

1904
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: star and I'm playing like you know.

1905
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say for an MK show, you could

1906
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: rent out any venue and assume you could fill it for.

1907
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: A live MK show. That's that's a brilliant idea. Should

1908
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: I go like old school New York City iconic places, Luke,

1909
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: I'll do min It's very easy Forard Theater Ford. That's

1910
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 1: not the dude.

1911
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: You don't understand the I know you think you understand

1912
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: DC's history. Happened there, dude, big time. No one gives

1913
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: a fuck about it. Nine thirty Club nine thirty Club.

1914
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: It's an iconic It's one of the most iconic clubs

1915
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: in the entire city, and people have rented it out.

1916
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 3: By the way, I think we could actually do it.

1917
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't do that. We got it Apollo Theater. They

1918
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: would get the hook on your ass immediately.

1919
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: That client would come out with the big ass and

1920
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: take you off. Nine thirty Club is my answer. Nine

1921
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: thirty Club shots everyone at nine thirty Club who now

1922
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: put on music that I no longer recognize, but I

1923
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: do love the club.

1924
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: What is it was it a little so years and

1925
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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 2: It was like when DC was a punk scene in

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Speaker 2: the eighties. Dave Girls talked about nine thirty club exten

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Speaker 2: sively and Henry Rollins has this too.

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Speaker 1: Is that like your studio fifty four, Luke, it's not

1930
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Speaker 1: your it's not CD.

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Speaker 2: It's not CD like that. It's a music venue. It's

1932
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Speaker 2: a music venue, and it's an old school one. And

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Speaker 2: like anyone who has ever been anyone in the mid

1934
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Speaker 2: Atlantic and especially DC has gone through there. But now

1935
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Speaker 2: when I look at their like who's on the bill

1936
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Speaker 2: to perform, it's always like you know, Laureate and the Julie's,

1937
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, who the fuck are these bands? Like,

1938
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Speaker 2: I don't even know who the fuck these are. I mean,

1939
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Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to do. I'm washed, but I'm just

1940
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Speaker 2: telling you I don't know anyway, uh from Fez Blackman,

1941
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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of name that is either.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on the this is good question. Thoughts on the

1943
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Speaker 2: Tua concussion controversy. We mma fans see guys get concussed

1944
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Speaker 2: and left stiff like that, yeah, all the time.

1945
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Speaker 3: And I mean he put in parentheses and we cheer it.

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Speaker 3: What's the difference.

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Speaker 2: The difference is that he got concussed on Thursday and

1948
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Speaker 2: then played again on fucking sorry, he got concussed on Sunday.

1949
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Speaker 2: I know, like it's a back injury. Get the fuck

1950
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Speaker 2: out of here with that.

1951
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Speaker 1: No, what was not?

1952
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Speaker 2: And then he played again on Thursday. Dude, you can

1953
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Speaker 2: kill a person like that. You can kill a person.

1954
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Speaker 2: That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: What do you do if you're him? Do you just

1956
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Speaker 1: take some time off, flip everybody off, and just walk away?

1957
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Speaker 1: You see, they fired their independent medicals. Who was it?

1958
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Speaker 3: The neurological staff really is to whoever cleared him.

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Speaker 1: They gave him a sketchy job title. They're like unaffiliated,

1960
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Speaker 1: barely hired. We don't really know them that well. We

1961
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Speaker 1: ultimately had decision making power over this anyway.

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Speaker 3: That that's the difference.

1963
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Speaker 2: The difference is that and I realized that you can

1964
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Speaker 2: get concustle on Saturday night in the APEX if you're

1965
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Speaker 2: a fighter, and you can go back to training on

1966
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Speaker 2: Monday and they can't actually observe and stop you. But

1967
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Speaker 2: in terms of what the promoters can do to put

1968
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Speaker 2: you in fights, there at least are some limits between

1969
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Speaker 2: what happens in professional action, and you know, and in football,

1970
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Speaker 2: they just they just put them right, do they could

1971
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Speaker 2: they they could have killed them. They could have killed them. Last,

1972
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Speaker 2: but not least from Tylaurian's.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: He writes thoughts regarding Zuck renting out the Apex and

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Speaker 2: Dana blatantlying about let's be clear about this, we don't

1976
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Speaker 2: actually know if money changed.

1977
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Speaker 1: Well did you see zucks facebook and Twitter posts before

1978
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Speaker 1: this of the like I'm gonna believe a word. Okay,

1979
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Speaker 1: so Zuck had to pick there's a picture of him

1980
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Speaker 1: with Mackenzie Dern and their extended teams I assume, uh,

1981
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Speaker 1: posing and he was like, thank you Dana White the infighting.

1982
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Speaker 1: So I don't believe him at all, But this is

1983
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Speaker 1: what we pitched when that Dana White news happened and

1984
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Speaker 1: he had done that tweet. Is this just him being like,

1985
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Speaker 1: you know, technical and and uh and just saying, well,

1986
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Speaker 1: he didn't actually rent it out, But Luke, what your

1987
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Speaker 1: best guest? And I know you don't necessarily know what

1988
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Speaker 1: are they hatching, what are they planning, because look, it's

1989
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Speaker 1: a it's a big move to be like yep for

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Speaker 1: this one time, but it's nothing don't don't look too

1991
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Speaker 1: close here. Nothing to see here. But the media is

1992
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Speaker 1: not going to be allowed. It's like almost unprecedented, right,

1993
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Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't get it. And so it had

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Speaker 1: to be for a big business venture.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it had to be.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like Bohemian Grove bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I think he wanted a private event and Dana gave

1998
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Speaker 2: it to him. I don't think it's any more the future.

1999
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, certainly there could be. I think Mark

2000
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Speaker 2: Zuckerberg and Meta are full of shit. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think I mean people being like, well, look what he

2002
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Speaker 2: said on his Instagram post. What is he under fucking oath?

2003
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Speaker 2: And by the way, that even that doesn't necessarily stop

2004
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Speaker 2: him from telling falsehoods. But the point I'm trying to

2005
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Speaker 2: make is like, I don't give a shit what they

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Speaker 2: say publicly. None of that is even remotely trustworthy. These

2007
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: are not people that deserve your trust based on what

2008
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Speaker 2: they say.

2009
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Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you that. So who knows

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Speaker 1: what the real thing is.

2011
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Speaker 2: But my best guess is that he wanted a private

2012
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Speaker 2: event and his conditions of showing up were that it

2013
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Speaker 2: was a private event, and Dana granted it.

2014
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Speaker 1: Now, why would he want a private event? And why

2015
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: would Dana? Granted I don't know, is our issue that

2016
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Dana just wasn't like upfront about this, Like shouldn't they

2017
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Speaker 1: have told the media it's a one time special event

2018
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Speaker 1: or whatever or do they not even need to do

2019
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: that because like it's it listens. Look, let's say let's

2020
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Speaker 1: say the Patriots or whatever major sports franchise is suddenly

2021
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: like underfire, like the Celtics with this code situation, it's

2022
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,919
Speaker 1: like under fire suddenly like shouldn't should would you expect

2023
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: like more honest answers to questions? And if it was

2024
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick in a situation that involved like things

2025
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: like this, where Dana's just like I fit the media

2026
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Speaker 1: won't come this time, It's fine. I like a really

2027
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: large move very much. Take I mean, listen, doesn't that

2028
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: make you feel like this is a potential sale or

2029
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Speaker 1: something that's coming up here? I don't get those. I mean,

2030
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Speaker 1: who's to say, who's to say? I don't know, I

2031
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Speaker 1: don't get that.

2032
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Speaker 2: I really believe, I really believe it's one rich guy

2033
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 2: doing another rich guy a favor and it's really not

2034
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Speaker 2: more complicated than that.

2035
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Speaker 1: And then if Okay, then why not ship? That's the

2036
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: question to you? Then why not just be so?

2037
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Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg had a big hand in destroying digital media,

2038
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: like you think he's shedding any tears over the fact.

2039
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, not just digital media, like the

2040
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: entire industry. He knows your search history. I'm sure he

2041
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: does shorthand I don't give a ship. The point I'm

2042
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: trying to tell you is, uh, you know, these are

2043
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: not people on Dana. You know you've heard what he

2044
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: said about media. These are not people that think that

2045
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: they owe the media anything, which in many ways they don't.

2046
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: But I just to them. I honestly, I really think

2047
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: it comes down to he wanted a private event and

2048
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: his condition for showing up was that it had to

2049
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: be private. Okay, don't they owe to to you know?

2050
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: Media is probably reaching out to them, the people that

2051
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: are the the day newsbreakers in our game. Doesn't the

2052
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: UFCO like a public statement about it or no? Is

2053
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: it none of our business? Even though there is there

2054
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: a billionaire standing back there with his wife and a

2055
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: couple of friends from work, Like, it's just weird. I

2056
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: mean it is weird.

2057
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 2: Yes, there should be more transparency, but the thing is,

2058
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: here's what it comes down to.

2059
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like some Jim Jones shit.

2060
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, I mean, is that harsh? Yeah,

2061
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: Jim Jones, I mean I mean you umped Usher in

2062
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 2: mass suicide.

2063
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me soften the John DuPont at

2064
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: least who committed murder. Yeah, that's also okay.

2065
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: Okay, and don't even say anyone else, but I know

2066
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: you're going to. Yeah, listen, people are really just kind

2067
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: of like dramatizing it in the wrong directions like this,

2068
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: there's something nefarious. I don't think it's nefarious, not necessarily anyway,

2069
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: a rich guy wanted a favor, Like I don't know,

2070
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: why is that so hard to believe?

2071
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Speaker 3: They do it for each.

2072
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Speaker 2: Other all the time, and they don't care that like

2073
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: it necessarily impacts this group or that group negatively. They're

2074
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: these are flies, especially Mark Zuckerberg doesn't give a shit

2075
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: about that.

2076
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: Okay, had had Zuck done in obvious like illumine signal

2077
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: into the camera as it went by him, would that

2078
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: have been okay with you at that point? That would

2079
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: have been funny actually that he should have done that.

2080
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: He should have had like a where we go one

2081
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: we go all qan non or something.

2082
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: He really should have just leaned into it, you know,

2083
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: Tdo or Tis would have loved that.

2084
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: How long do you think it took him to pick

2085
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: out the outfit? I don't know how.

2086
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: Robots compute there choice has I was just waiting to

2087
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: see him just eating like live puppies.

2088
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah and no disassemble yeah yeah, I don't know.

2089
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: Again, did he rent it?

2090
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if money changed hands, that's why everyone

2091
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: was like, well arm danea live Well, we don't know if.

2092
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: There's a financial transaction involved.

2093
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: What we know is that his presence related directly to

2094
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 2: everyone else's absence.

2095
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 3: So the question is why was that?

2096
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: And you can make whatever inference you want, but my

2097
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 2: best guess is he wanted a private event and got one.

2098
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: Okay, but final comparison to team and team sports and

2099
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: mainstream sports, if this was the Saint Louis Cardinals suddenly

2100
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 1: said media and fans that one game on the schedule,

2101
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: it's just private for us, and there was potentially I'm

2102
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: not saying Zuckerberger's notorious. We're making jokes. He's a whatever. Okay,

2103
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: he's a giant luke. But let's say it was anybody,

2104
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and they rented the whole stadium and it was just

2105
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: this private thing and the team gave no explanation for it.

2106
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a bigger story?

2107
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 2: It be a huge story. But here's the difference. Like,

2108
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: they own Apex and it's their property. They can do

2109
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: what they want to be Like, well, don't they own

2110
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: the ball the stadiums? Sometimes they do a lot of

2111
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: times that's public money that goes into it, so.

2112
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different.

2113
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Speaker 2: Also, like UFC is the let's just be real about

2114
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 2: this for just a second. You can call them a monopoly,

2115
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: you can say they're not, but whatever, they're the eight

2116
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: hundred pound gorilla in the industry. They're the only promotion

2117
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of that could kick out media and

2118
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: not really worry about it because most of the traffic

2119
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 2: on MMA sites, on YouTube channels, on Instagram accounts, the

2120
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: vast majority of it comes from UFC content. Is very

2121
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: hard to build a career. If you were just talking

2122
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: about one or PFL or belitor to be quite care

2123
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: for boxing, to be fair or boxing, it would not

2124
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: necessarily be that easy. But if you talk by the

2125
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 2: way that you did, the opposite and you did just UFC.

2126
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: You can build an entire career around what percentage, and

2127
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: they know that would prefer that this show was only

2128
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: UFC all the damn So I don't think that they

2129
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: would definitely want like, you know, the the occasional ad

2130
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: c C, the occasional one, you know, THEKFC bullshit something

2131
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: like that.

2132
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is they know

2133
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: that they have him by the balls, and the media

2134
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: just basically has.

2135
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Speaker 1: No choice but to go along with it.

2136
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: So people, I think people are overthinking it. It's just

2137
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Speaker 2: rich guys doing each other solids at you know, do

2138
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Speaker 2: you want to say at the media's expense? You know,

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Speaker 2: you can make that claim if you want, but that's

2140
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: really what it comes down to.

2141
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: Just be honest about it like this. This is the

2142
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: thing in the end.

2143
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 2: But Dana doesn't feel like he owes you anything right

2144
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: or the public.

2145
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I guess I think he owes me a little bit.

2146
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, he definitely used your image rights, the slander the

2147
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: fuck out of you and that video.

2148
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: Okay, but that is it for our top five, That

2149
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: is it for our questions. And now don't forget we

2150
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: have a special guest coming special.

2151
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Guess at the end, and then we have bc'specs.

2152
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Right now, All right, let's do it. Here's what I

2153
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: did this weekend for everybody. I scoured the globe for

2154
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: the highs and lows, the good, the bad, and the

2155
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: ugly in combat sports and beyond. I called this work

2156
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: of art. Have you seen this shit? Mm? Hm oh

2157
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: oh go ahead, all right, Luke, We're gonna start UFC

2158
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: Fight night in Vegas. Here's what the people want. They

2159
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: want the boss and they want some Zuck Luke. In

2160
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: the end, they kind of just the same. Right, look

2161
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: at this as zero, So do you think this was

2162
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Zuck I enjoyed destroying? Like like, Zuck has to have

2163
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: a team, right that puts together his public. So do

2164
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: you think they looked at Dana for inspiration and we're like, oh,

2165
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: T shirt and jeans is back, let's do it. I

2166
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: think everything he does is in fairness to Zuckerberg, everything

2167
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: he does is overly scrutinized. I think that's probably true.

2168
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh So he probably just tried to keep it as

2169
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, basic as possible. That T shirt probably costs

2170
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars. Fifty big Ladeshi factories collapsed in order

2171
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 2: to make it.

2172
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's called soil and green because it's made

2173
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: out of people. Luke, all right, Luke, here's Zuckerberg's wife,

2174
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Priscilla Chan losing her ship over the action that was

2175
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: breaking out in front of her. Oh this, yeah, yeah,

2176
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: that's me every time I'm trying to potty train my daughter.

2177
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, should we be allowed to clown this

2178
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: billionaire just for having a human reaction to it?

2179
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 2: Should be able to clown every billionaire in existence. They

2180
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 2: don't deserve your sympathy even a little bit.

2181
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Alaia Latifi had an interesting post fight promo that he cut.

2182
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: Let's go to it.

2183
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 5: That bonus tonight and Mark, I know, Mark from Facebook

2184
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 5: is here.

2185
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 1: You can throw in a bonus to you know, help

2186
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: us out. I want that bonus. This this this reference

2187
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: from a came in the same sentence that he revealed

2188
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: he got staph infection two days ago. The joke's on

2189
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: you suck, right, I mean, first of all, the moment

2190
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: Dana heard this was he like, we are not resigning

2191
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: that son of a bitch, right? No? I mean he

2192
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: put Marks from Facebook on the spot. They were trying

2193
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: to cover this up, Luke and a leir brought it

2194
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: back turn stuff.

2195
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Should he should have been like meta by the way.

2196
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Book Justice for Mackenzie, right, hashtags saw I saw you

2197
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: tweet that hashtager.

2198
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:24,839
Speaker 3: We don't know if money changed hands.

2199
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: So they always say Dana's living rent free in our heads.

2200
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Well sucks live in rent free in our fight Arena Luke, Okay,

2201
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, good stuff. Yeah, lightweight Jaquem Silva

2202
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: had a fantastic finish against one Jesse Ronson. They call

2203
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: this the jumping knee Luke, and it was brilliant. It's

2204
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: set up the uh look, yeah, that's that's solid work.

2205
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: That was that was solid work. There was a few

2206
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: bangers that broke out in terms of highlight reel finishes

2207
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: on this card. Right, yeah, that's just great.

2208
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: But I'm looking down too, right, saw him at the

2209
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: end there where he was just kind of facing down

2210
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: like that. You're gonna get hit with something coming from

2211
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: the from south to north when you do that.

2212
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,839
Speaker 1: So John Anick was electric on this night. On the microphone,

2213
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I was played by play announcer including this hold on.

2214
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Have you noticed how often there are ads for vaccines

2215
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 2: on these UFC cards.

2216
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 3: There's like ads for like packs Loovid, which.

2217
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Is oh yeah, like this may but then flu shot

2218
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: and stuff.

2219
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, if you like, I'm like, listen, pharmaceutical companies,

2220
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: this is.

2221
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 3: Not your audience. Just let me warn you.

2222
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: People in this audience don't like medicine. So put the

2223
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: camera on Luke when he's giving humorous rants. Please. You

2224
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: know I can direct the show too. There it is,

2225
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: there we go, Okay, Luke john Anick went out of

2226
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: his way to challenge referee Keith no nonsense Peterson. He

2227
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: was full of a little bit of nonsense this this

2228
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: weekend for for not taking away a point. Let's listen

2229
01:32:54,120 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: to it and take I was a little shocked when

2230
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I heard that, right, I tell you what.

2231
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: Randy Brown, you know, he had a good win, and

2232
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 2: I thought he deserved the win overall, but he had

2233
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: a fence grab in the first round against Massa ran

2234
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Duba that was terrible, and and Keith Peterson just did

2235
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: the old smack your hand away. I was like, ah, Keith,

2236
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,440
Speaker 2: that's a lot of nonsense. You're tolrating.

2237
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 1: You think Tom Cruise was right?

2238
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: He smells like hooch And yeah, like I've always said this,

2239
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 2: I certainly hope if he does hit me up, I

2240
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: want to party with you.

2241
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: All right? He smelled like aggressively horny middle aged women.

2242
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, all right, Luke, Tabitha Ricci. Unfortunately

2243
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: I lost her second straight fight when her opponent pulled out,

2244
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: but she apparently was still looking to take part. She

2245
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: didn't lose the fight. No, she didn't lose the fight,

2246
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: but she was mocking having fun with the whole idea

2247
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: of the ring card girl. Could she be hired on

2248
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: the spot? Look, I don't make those calls. I don't know. Okay,

2249
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: you're asking me to comment on her appearance in a

2250
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: very roo you know, the technique and the just the presence.

2251
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I have put less than zero

2252
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: thought into the technique of that.

2253
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Good because you had been fired if you really tried it, Okay,

2254
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: dissected coming at you? All right. Uh, let's go to

2255
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: this MK viewer who was Johnny on the Spot cleaning

2256
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: out his own closet. This is Ted Hollister and Luke.

2257
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: He shared a picture of himself sparring, well, not sparing.

2258
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: He's hitting past. I'm sorry, Luke, he's warming up, all right.

2259
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: Just realized I own the iconic BC Room Service diary shorts. Now, Luke,

2260
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: just to remember, I bought those shorts shorts for my

2261
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: son to play basketball and he hated it.

2262
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: I cannot believe you tried to outfit your kid in

2263
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: those clothing and like the age that they are, you're

2264
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: just sending them the dude. You might as well just

2265
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 2: dip your kids in honey and then drop them into

2266
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 2: a tank full.

2267
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: Of that's not acceptable. They're gonna get eaten. A lot

2268
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: turned out perfect because it was like too large for

2269
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: him and he was like, and the style's weird dead

2270
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you know, I took it on and wow,

2271
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: so thanks to Ted Hollister. Did he look like a

2272
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 1: real fighter? There? It does, all right, Jude. I ran

2273
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: into an MK guy in the grocery store. I can't

2274
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: believe when I was wearing my baby Yota like pajama pants,

2275
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, buying pizza.

2276
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you also wore just plain white sweatpants

2277
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 2: to an RSD unironically, so.

2278
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Beat me on the low on the d All right,

2279
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,520
Speaker 1: let's go to Belator two eighty six from Long Beach, California.

2280
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: Look at Patricio Pipple in this highlight package.

2281
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 3: Watch his eyes, watch his eyes.

2282
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Defending that vicious flying knee.

2283
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 2: Timing, the accuracy, everything about that is remarkable, and that

2284
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 2: would be a partial.

2285
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Dude, that is extremely good. Dude's awesome.

2286
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's seriously, you know, I just don't know if

2287
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 2: he gets the respect he deserves.

2288
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: But he is an excellent fighter. We mentioned Spike Carlisle

2289
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: is a musty TV presenter. He certainly is his entrance. Wow,

2290
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: when it comes crashing down and it hurts inside. Look

2291
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: was bubbaa love sponge there he was filming Olswye. I think, yeah, Wow, Gawker, indeed, yeah,

2292
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: did you pop for this? I did? I did? Okay,

2293
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: no I did not. I mean, you know, has hopefully

2294
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: recovered from that horribly racist moment. Luke, I don't know

2295
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 1: if you should. I don't. I mean, I don't know.

2296
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 2: You'd have to ask people who know the situation better.

2297
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, taking Peter Teal's money to sue Gawker to

2298
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: me has always been a little war, you know, if

2299
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 2: not worse, certainly pretty fucking bad.

2300
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, Luke, Let's go to what Spike authored or

2301
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: co authored here fifteen to thirty seconds of pure magic

2302
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 1: to open the opening round. Just watch and enjoy this

2303
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: TV friendly fighting.

2304
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 2: But it's on your white CLASSI carlowberate the history of.

2305
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 5: Mike Carls come out and say, I Am not going

2306
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 5: to take anything.

2307
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, A J McKey turned Okay, A

2308
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: j McKey turned the table there. Yeah, uh oh, you

2309
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: just saw very well. All right, let's keep it going here.

2310
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: This was that aforementioned Aaron Pico left shoulder injury that

2311
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: coach Brandon Gibson was desperately trying to put back in

2312
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: socket to allow him to continue. And wow, I mean,

2313
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: you don't see stuff like this. You just don't. I can't.

2314
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: I can't.

2315
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I know that they were desperate, and

2316
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: I know Brandon Gibson's trying to do the right thing

2317
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: in his mind.

2318
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: That can't be best practices medically. No, Hampney, No, that's handy. Hey, Luke,

2319
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: big week under the radar for when Paulo Costa of

2320
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: Secret Juice Fan yeph First he competed and lost to

2321
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: the liver King Patricky Pipple also on site and a

2322
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: beloteur Mma and the Schmo represented liver eating contest. Your

2323
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, Luke.

2324
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine being a fan of the

2325
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 2: liver King. Do you know how low your IQ has

2326
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 2: to be?

2327
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 1: Dude? Did he betray this mart Cage?

2328
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: Oh you mean the pfl's markeg Ye. Yeah, but the

2329
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: pfilsmar just keeping tabs.

2330
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: It's monitoring his every movie, that Pegasus suck software program. Yeah,

2331
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: thank you, liver King, Luke. He also snuck up behind

2332
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: the liver.

2333
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know you know who the status person

2334
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: on earth is.

2335
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: It's actually not liver King, because he's just taking money

2336
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 2: from these roots, not these ones, but like the fans

2337
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 2: on Instagram, people who actually, if you identify as a primal,

2338
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 2: I guarantee your parents hate you.

2339
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: I guarantee they hate you. Is that more like regal

2340
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: than being an MK donk? Well, both are equally sad,

2341
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: but one is a little bit more embarrassing, all right.

2342
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Costa would sneak up behind the liver King and put

2343
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: on the rear naked attempt only because Liver King is

2344
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: actually naked above the waist, and then denied them the

2345
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: hell there we go and Paulo Costa also appeared in

2346
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas parking lot playing Kapawera music with MK's

2347
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: own super fan extraordinaire Chef Cast Luke, check it out?

2348
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 1: What did chef cast murder him alive? I mean they

2349
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: are like the whole notes of the capital Ware Esteam book, right.

2350
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 3: I can't believe a car just didn't want them.

2351
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 1: If you if you were in a parking lot and

2352
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: you saw that, you'd be like, what the fuck?

2353
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 6: You know what?

2354
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: It needs more violins from the Mahavish New Orchestral Luke,

2355
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: that's what you know?

2356
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 2: You know they needs a jam like this for two

2357
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 2: hours straight, NonStop, and then put that CD out.

2358
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 1: You'd be the first one buying. And then I get

2359
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: in your car and be like, what the fuck are

2360
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: you listening to? If it comes with a meal prep plan,

2361
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be down for.

2362
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 3: It does come with a meal prep plan.

2363
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 2: But you also have to wear weird electronic objects on

2364
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 2: your person in a very obvious and way.

2365
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: You can't talk about them. Yeah, like those ball bulbs,

2366
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: those balls? What are you doing? Uh? Thank you, Chef Guz.

2367
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike Perry, who appeared Onusian Team thinks

2368
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: if Caz gave me COVID, I don't know was I there?

2369
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: What happened? Or I think meet and greet. Thank you.

2370
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike Perry. I don't know why he

2371
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: was on Russian TV. I don't know the context, but

2372
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: he flew to I mean, a lot of Americans flying

2373
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: to Russia these days. I don't know what y'all are doing.

2374
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

2375
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: There was a face off and it got a little Harry.

2376
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:19,759
Speaker 1: It started as a joke.

2377
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but these things always escalate.

2378
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: He started a joke. The thing about Mike periods, he

2379
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: is ready to go. He's always ready to go, Luke,

2380
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: even if you're an old motherfucker, he will knock you out, Luke. Yeah,

2381
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: see what I mean.

2382
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 2: Like these things, dude, These Russian media events, they're just

2383
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 2: these Russian media events are like the worst family reunion

2384
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: ever called TikTok, you know what I mean. Or the

2385
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 2: people are just the family members are like fighting.

2386
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Over old grievances. Yeah, I'm not surprised that it happened,

2387
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: But hopefully Mike got out. Okay, Ocean's daddy needs to

2388
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: be back on the mainland, all right. Yeah. If I

2389
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: was him, I'd be like, get the fuck out of Russia. Mic.

2390
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to b KFC thirty emanating from Monroe Louisiana,

2391
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Ben Rothwell and the Cole main event, making his debut,

2392
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: needed nineteen seconds to splatter Bobo O'Bannon. Luke, were you

2393
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: impressed by this way?

2394
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 2: I was, dude, I mean, you know he was Listen,

2395
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 2: Ben Rothwells had a very distinguished career, and you just

2396
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 2: don't know what stage are going to be in when

2397
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 2: they leave the UFC and whatever. So I was a

2398
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: little bit concerned on that, like basic consideration. Boy, he

2399
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 2: went in there and let everybody knows the way I

2400
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: like to talk about it.

2401
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: Let him know what time watched an alternate angle of

2402
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: this knockout blow that it was. It's pretty vicious here,

2403
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 1: Ben Rothwell. I mean, you can only engage nineteen seconds

2404
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 1: against a truck driver. But damn right.

2405
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big difference between local tough dude and

2406
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 2: actually internationally tough dude.

2407
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: Hey, this guy follows me on Instagram though the Bible

2408
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,799
Speaker 1: the Bible belt brawler, because you talked about him on Friday,

2409
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Wait, did you do that? What's Jake

2410
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: Paul's girlfriend's name, Julia Rose? Julia Rose?

2411
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Did you do the same bit where you followed him

2412
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 2: first and then he just returned the favor.

2413
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, yeah, yeah, so that actually.

2414
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, you kind of cheating the system.

2415
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get some insight for MKA. Okay,

2416
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: there you go, all right? Uh Luke, Ben Rothwell has

2417
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: been known to cut Remember that weird promo we cut

2418
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: in UFC where he's like, only politics can stop me,

2419
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: and then you saw that actually didn't stop. He had

2420
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 1: another weird one after this win. Let's go to the

2421
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: audio here. I said I was.

2422
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 5: Gonna put the heavyweights on I notice, but I believe

2423
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 5: there's actually more questions now that didn't show it, And

2424
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 5: I need everyone. If you're a fan, let Dave Feldman

2425
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 5: know and the bee can't see know that you want

2426
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 5: to see what I can really do and as soon

2427
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 5: as possible, Tyrie heavyweight.

2428
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Out there watching. You need to know. You have seen

2429
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: nothing yet. So he's he's showing us nothing, Luke, that's

2430
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: what's happening. Okay, nothing yet at least? Uh are you?

2431
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 1: Are you in on this experience? He knows how to

2432
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: work a microphone, does fit perfect, I mean he does

2433
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: fit perfect.

2434
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:03,799
Speaker 3: Him and John Dotson.

2435
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 2: I have some high hopes for it and Mike Mike

2436
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: Perry obviously has done pretty well too, But Ben Rotha

2437
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 2: might be a good fit.

2438
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: You've got a little pro wrestling in your and you're

2439
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: big and he was like plus two ninety at the

2440
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: weigh ins, and you're big and strong. Yeah, you're gonna

2441
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: be You're gonna be a handful in the main event. Uh.

2442
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Hunt won the vacant Cruiserweight title via knockout. He

2443
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: cut an interesting program promo of his own afterwards. Let's

2444
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: listen to it. Two things flat things, The world is flat,

2445
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: God has black, and no will no tim Hello, say so, ladieship, gentlemen.

2446
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 3: What was the last one?

2447
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't really decipher. I did hear

2448
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: God is black like it was a wild like the

2449
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: World's not flat? I don't know what color God is

2450
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get the last part. All right, thank

2451
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you for that. Look Thomas approved breakdown of his of

2452
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: his world is definitely not flat, Luke, I heard some

2453
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: disturbing audio this week. Wasn't going to show it to you,

2454
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: but it you know, it cut me. It cut me right,

2455
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: It cut me. It cut me in the in the

2456
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 1: in the in the field.

2457
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 3: Somebody who you stock on Instagram get married.

2458
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: No, but it hit me in the field spot. It's

2459
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: from your boy Joe Rogan. Okay, let's let's let's listen

2460
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: to this. Connecticut is always dumb. You always on Connecticut.

2461
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 7: It's amas place in the country. It's not a real state.

2462
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 7: It's a highway between Boston and New York. And it's

2463
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 7: filled with people that have no hope. Oh shit, they

2464
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 7: have no hope.

2465
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, that's uh, you know what.

2466
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: It's also filled with an average height of five ten

2467
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 1: and a half. I did the math. I checked it. Okay,

2468
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, I gotta say Connecticut does snuck.

2469
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: It's a shitty state. It's a shitty if you only

2470
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: think it's a highway between Boston and New York. You've

2471
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: never had a flat tire, okay what, You've never had

2472
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 1: a chance to really suck it in, you know, stuck

2473
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,759
Speaker 1: it in. I'm not you know, shouts to Apathy the rapper.

2474
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I love him. He has by the way, he has

2475
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: an album called King or a song Andy we call

2476
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: King of Connecticut. I mean he's gonna have gover to shares,

2477
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 1: not gonna take con that share is not gonna take cord.

2478
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 1: I can form a mafia here the CT model.

2479
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, Connecticut, you know, where would

2480
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: you rank it in the fifty states? What's its power

2481
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: ranking in terms of toughness, in terms of like great

2482
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 2: place to live?

2483
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 1: Well, okay, first of all, schools.

2484
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 2: And oh really you're gonna talk to me Connecticut schools

2485
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: besides Yale, get the fuck out of here.

2486
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: And you just don't know, like like words, right, public schools?

2487
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding you.

2488
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't in any way think that Connecticut has excellent

2489
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:31,440
Speaker 2: public public schools.

2490
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure that they're Okay.

2491
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't come from an excellent policy. Okay,

2492
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,879
Speaker 1: that's to be clear. Be clear. I grew up in Georgia.

2493
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 3: I went to a shitty high school as well. I'm

2494
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 3: not declaiming where I was.

2495
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Great, but I was adjacent to these very very good schools.

2496
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 1: All right, So schools, and uh, you know, average income

2497
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 1: is high. Beauty and nature and nature is also underrated.

2498
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 1: It's a very nice place to live, but the taxes

2499
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 1: are up, the up, the water, the traffic can be bad,

2500
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: really bad if you're you know, not in the you're

2501
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: fitting all alone. It's outside of like Willemantick in the

2502
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: quiet East area. That that people.

2503
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 3: Hartford is your capital.

2504
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: Your state sucks, okay in terms of like like New

2505
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: Haven's a good city. Haven's got some culture. It's solid.

2506
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: It's got a music scene, a little bit art scene.

2507
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: It's fine. More noise all the others to all the

2508
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: other places suck. I mean we got I've never been

2509
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: to it.

2510
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I've never been to a nice place

2511
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,839
Speaker 2: in Connecticut, not once. My friend is from Trumble. How's Trumble.

2512
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Trumble's nice. It's in a it's in an aggressive area

2513
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: because it's not far from Bridgeport. But it's a it's

2514
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: a good school system, nice house value, like it's it's

2515
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: upper middle. He's very angry. My friend from Trumbwell, yeah,

2516
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean they also had some badasses, like they were

2517
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: really good at sports.

2518
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 3: What would you say is your favorite state in the Union.

2519
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 1: States? And that's tough because every state's got ship. We're

2520
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: still having visitable Like I think I would love Washington

2521
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 1: State or would I not? Because it rains every day?

2522
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 1: And then my mindtal health.

2523
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've meant to health to go to shit too,

2524
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 2: and California is obviously got some nice places but some

2525
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 2: terrible ones.

2526
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would probably say calif Once I see all

2527
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 1: of California, my answer is probably gonna be California, even

2528
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 1: though you have to you know, there's different areas. Where's

2529
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 1: Colorado in that list? It's it's number two. Yeah, I

2530
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: think my sister lives there. I visited a few times. Colorado.

2531
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 1: I could really make it.

2532
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: I could Georgia there.

2533
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but there's no I mean, I would live

2534
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, but i'd live like on like the West Side,

2535
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: in the Berkshires. Now, I'd be like, you know, it'd

2536
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: be cool. You know, I don't. I don't really like

2537
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 1: the Boston scene. I like Boston's a clean, beautiful, amazing city.

2538
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: But growing up I was closer to New York.

2539
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this better state Virginia or Maryland?

2540
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 2: Virginia that's the right answer. Yeah, that's the right answer. Yeah,

2541
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: thank you.

2542
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: But are you now realizing that people from Connecticut are

2543
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 1: tough as ship? Lo?

2544
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 2: No, most of them are toothless dirt bags. You just

2545
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: happen to have a full of mouth of them.

2546
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: But all right, big week for how about this for

2547
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: a transition. Big week for ass torking Luke, Well that's

2548
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: my kind of week, all right. First, it happened in

2549
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: the middle of daylight traffic here on the on the

2550
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: right home.

2551
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, doesn't this ever happen to me? How

2552
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 2: does this never happen to me in traffic?

2553
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean that is aggressed? If then, Luke, have you

2554
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 1: ever heard of Luau Labanta plays for the NWSL. She

2555
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 1: had a viral celebration. I think this is about three

2556
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago. Yes, it happened

2557
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: on the soccer pitch's just like I got injured. Ah.

2558
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:17,879
Speaker 1: I may or may not have checked out her Instagram

2559
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 1: following this is it worth it? Luke, let me work it? Yeah,

2560
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: it is worth it. Yeah. I didn't necessarily mean that,

2561
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 1: but uh then Luke ajm aj McKee started, uh started

2562
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: to get up on that ass and despite Carlisle fight

2563
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: and showing us a little bit of that same energy. Okay,

2564
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 1: that's what I was referencing earlier when I made Luke.

2565
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Then it found its way into the ufc apex. No,

2566
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 1: not zucking the missus. This is Paul Felder and Brendan Fitzgerald.

2567
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: You know, what.

2568
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 2: I like Brendan Fitzgerald. I mean, he's a corny white

2569
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: guy like you and me, but he does.

2570
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: A good job. No, he is good good. I like

2571
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: Brendan and the Twerking Went Global went in Singapore this weekend.

2572
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Luke one championship stamp fair text putting it on the

2573
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 1: celebration dance. She had a nice win too. Is staying

2574
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: with one? Staying with one here, ruegrug On Thursday morning,

2575
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 1: he had a different victory dance in the post fight.

2576
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Let's check out this beautiful specimen, Umar Kaine, is it? Yes?

2577
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: That is my morning warm up dance as well.

2578
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 3: We had a solid win this week.

2579
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: Hey, let's see highlights of it. Here is his ground

2580
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: and pound win. I don't know what he thought. I

2581
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: couldn't pronoun the guy's name. Guys, I have I have

2582
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: those same shorts, Luke. Okay, get off of him, Jesus,

2583
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: there we go. There It is the sultry tone of

2584
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Michael Schavello.

2585
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 2: I gotta say he looked pretty good in this fight.

2586
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: This was on the one sixty on one car that

2587
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: was on Thursday. He looked pretty good.

2588
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Also on this weekend's one. You mentioned Mikey Mussa Meche

2589
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: became the one light Flyway Grappling champion. I don't know

2590
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: what title he won, but well here's his interview post

2591
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 1: fight call out that you meant you loves pizza. He's

2592
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: like a ninja turtle.

2593
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 6: We can make history together, you know. I know me

2594
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 6: and him could bring the MMA eng two fans together

2595
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 6: and it would be just a historic, incredible event and

2596
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 6: it would be an honor to step on the mat

2597
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 6: with him. There's not a call out, It's just a

2598
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 6: respectful request of role.

2599
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

2600
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 3: I mean he would tear me lym from limb.

2601
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: But do you know what he do? You know?

2602
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 2: Do you know we call those glasses in the Marine Corps? Yeah,

2603
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,759
Speaker 2: BCG's you know what that stands for birth control glass

2604
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: because they know one fucking you with him things on.

2605
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Louke, that was that was a heartfelt call out. Yeah,

2606
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: that was very respectful. Yeah, it was very Would you

2607
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 1: watch that fight, honor, Yeah? Sure, But I had a

2608
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 1: good lane for DJ. He did the rock. Here's the thing.

2609
01:50:58,600 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

2610
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 2: All of these like jujits versus MMA things like they're

2611
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:04,639
Speaker 2: good for getting attention, but they're kind of meaningless.

2612
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 3: For the most part.

2613
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Barnett versus Dean Lister of Metamorse was

2614
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: different because Josh Barnett was I think well matched and

2615
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 2: he won that contest. I was actually it was actually

2616
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 2: one of my favorite Josh Barnett wins in all of

2617
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 2: combat sports.

2618
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: That was a really, really impressive thing.

2619
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 2: But in general, a list grappler versus a list MMA fighter,

2620
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 2: it's a list grappler is going to win.

2621
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: It's Mayweather McGregor all over again.

2622
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's kind of pointless.

2623
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: That's fair.

2624
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 2: That's fair, Luke, and Demetrius is a good grappler, but

2625
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: Mikey is a world champion.

2626
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's just I mean, come on, yeah, I

2627
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 1: got you right there. Let's go to everyone's favorite game

2628
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,799
Speaker 1: that we play here. It's called rate that tat Curtis

2629
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 1: Blades's edition, the Razor Blade, Luke added an actual razor

2630
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: blade to his left tricep triceptual area. I I love Curtis.

2631
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 1: I don't love this. I don't love it, all right,

2632
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: all right, I like Curtis a lot. Is better or

2633
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 1: worse than Jose Aldas. It's better, it's better, it's better,

2634
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: but better or worse than mister Hebas show it again,

2635
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: blow it up.

2636
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 2: I mean, the Hebos one just has a lot more

2637
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 2: going on, so they're not It's not a one to

2638
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 2: one comparison and.

2639
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Has Emily Witmeyer on his forum for the rest of

2640
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: his life.

2641
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, that's a little whatever, but it's better than that.

2642
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: It's over here. If you look at the line work

2643
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: on the razor itself, it's not great.

2644
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: Is that a cobra kai symbol at the top? I

2645
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: don't know.

2646
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: All Listen, here's the point in defensive Curtis. I say

2647
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: this about everyone's tttoo. It's true about Hebus's dad and

2648
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,280
Speaker 2: everyone else. They didn't get the tattoo for you. They

2649
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,879
Speaker 2: didn't get the tattoo for me. They got it for themselves,

2650
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 2: and if they're happy with it, you gotta just let

2651
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 2: it be what it is.

2652
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,560
Speaker 1: For the most part. That's are you speaking to me

2653
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: or Damien Darren Elkins Again, he didn't get it for you. Okay,

2654
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: he didn't get it for me. And I like them

2655
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: into Hebas too. But you know, well, Luke, some super

2656
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: fans like to get things all over their body to

2657
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: show who they are. Check out this Vikings fan and

2658
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: tell me if this is commendable worker just another Uh,

2659
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 1: it's a thin line between art and psychopath y Luke

2660
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 1: psychopathry they call it. Would this man eat your flesh?

2661
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Does he work at the Renaissance Fair?

2662
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Does he work at all?

2663
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: It's good color?

2664
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 2: Right, The coloring is okay. Everything else is kind of

2665
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 2: a mess. Here's what I would say, though, BC, I've

2666
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 2: said this to you before. Any the one of his

2667
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: stomach or chest is pretty good. Actually, anyone who's like

2668
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 2: a hardcore NFL fan is absolutely a dirt back.

2669
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: I mean I feel I feel like that rule.

2670
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: There is no other way around the dragons nicely Okay,

2671
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: Normally we have you rate the tat. Can you rate

2672
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: the man's tat reaction to almost getting a tat? Here's

2673
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 1: a very drunk person attempting to never get a tattoo drunk.

2674
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: Let's go to the videotape here. I'm sure are all right, dude?

2675
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Is there a leak in the roof here? He said,

2676
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable tattooing you man, And the guy's

2677
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: response was.

2678
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 3: Show that one more time, show that one more time.

2679
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: We are an award winning show. We can do this, hey,

2680
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: water break yeah, no, he just uh, he just lost control, Luke,

2681
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: it happens to the best. Tattoos are painful, but they're

2682
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 1: not that painful. That's actually me. That's gonna be me, Luke.

2683
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 1: In a few if Sean.

2684
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 2: Brady, Sean, that's gonna be Brian Campbell pistol on himself.

2685
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: How about this, Luke, Legends of old meeting potential future legends.

2686
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: When Sugary Leonard and Ryan Garcia showed off their hand speed,

2687
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: does this get you fired up or not at all?

2688
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 2: So the thing about TikTok is what I've realized is

2689
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 2: everyone uses the same clips or the same sounds and

2690
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: then makes the same video around it. This is better

2691
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 2: when it's women torking.

2692
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: Oh the same like yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, We'll

2693
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: keep it moving. Best knockout of the week comes from

2694
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: this karate match. What are we doing? Spinna shit now?

2695
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 8: Oh good god. I was well timed, so a nice

2696
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 8: walk off. Yeah yep, got him, got him. We're gonna

2697
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 8: skip the big melon bomb a spades really playing the

2698
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 8: well no I think it was dubbed the video. Yeah yeah, yeah,

2699
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 8: thank you. We were going to show you a big

2700
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 8: giant watermelon bong but the video fell apart. So let's

2701
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 8: go to tychoy Vasa.

2702
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 1: He was on the field and in the locker room

2703
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: with the two time NRL champions, the Penrith Panthers. Is

2704
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: that National Rugby League Loue, Yeah, that's the I think

2705
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: that's the Austin one. They're obviously. This is Bam Bam

2706
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: in the locker room doing the celebration Showye. I'm just

2707
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: so over this ship. I love I love Tatoo Vosa,

2708
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: but I'm so over this ship. Arlene Buenco had a

2709
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 1: party at her house for the same game to watch

2710
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: it in Australia. I think so, Yes, I don't stuck

2711
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: her that closely. Yeah, okay, hey Luke, how about some

2712
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: feet on a plane? We haven't done that in a while, right,

2713
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 1: just just are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking

2714
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: kidding me? Don't give a boom boom, dude.

2715
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 2: I want to make a joke that involves something that

2716
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: happened on nine to eleven.

2717
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

2718
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

2719
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Pat Tillman was a leap that we tried.

2720
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna say it, but

2721
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that you cooked up that.

2722
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 2: I this person should be the plane should land at

2723
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 2: the nearest airport, and the federal marshalls should collect this

2724
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 2: absolute vagrant piece of ship. All right, all right, all right, hey, Luke,

2725
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: when you become fucking dare you you gross animal?

2726
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: Okay, we can go to the radio.

2727
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep it moving. Uh. Look, you know the

2728
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: worst part about getting old balls is you you know

2729
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: they sag and you consider they get saggy and wrinkley.

2730
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: If only we could iron them, right, I mean it

2731
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: was a pure accident between a married couple. Luke. That

2732
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: was Wow. Slow reaction, delayed reaction, right, I mean he's

2733
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: not using those genitals for a useful anyway. Look, normally

2734
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 1: we put on gender reveals here because we think they're

2735
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 1: lame and we hate them. But I found the best,

2736
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 1: most aggressive gender reveal of all time. You ready, huh?

2737
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: And the best part is they're playing boys don't fry

2738
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: by the carrot? All right? Hey, iron sharpening, iron time.

2739
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: This is a city kick boners colliding as UFC champions

2740
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: is real. A lot of soignia and Alexander Volcanos see

2741
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: this because of course I saw this. That's fight porn

2742
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: for you, Luke. Yeah, okay, okay, I'm gonna jump triangle

2743
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 1: here at true. Probably is there a wizard involved there?

2744
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Probably a wizard is an overhook of an under I

2745
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 1: know exactly what it is. All right, all right, we're

2746
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: done with that, Thank you, guys. We're gonna close with this. Luke.

2747
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what football season also means ass? Eating sison? Okay, Luke,

2748
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 1: it's always Washington, DC. Yeah, we start off with the

2749
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: the Washington Commodores. Is that what they're called? Command the Commodore? Ye?

2750
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 3: They're named after a bird?

2751
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you? All right? Eating season, which fucker, I

2752
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 1: guarantee you this fucker is just a die hard command

2753
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: got there, say die hard into that ass? Just a

2754
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: season ticket holder in that bout you fucking FedEx Fiel.

2755
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna watch any good football? Would you be

2756
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: surprised if I told you the Eagles fans also like this? Luke?

2757
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 3: No Eagles fans are reprobates?

2758
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: Or is that a Jets jersey? I haven't figured it

2759
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: out yet. What do we got here? Asked eating Susan

2760
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: sixty nine. Oh, do you hear Geff on the stream

2761
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: just dulcet tones of just said his boy knows this

2762
01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: guy Geff. Is that a boy? Is he in jail?

2763
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 2: No, he's a Geff. Whatever else he is, even keeled,

2764
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 2: is not one of them.

2765
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a future just bleed guy and

2766
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: training right now?

2767
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean he either has committed a felony or is

2768
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 2: going to commit a felony, probably at a game.

2769
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: Close with this, have you seen this viral high school

2770
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 1: football video of a man with a flag that read

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01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: I E ass running across the field in the middle

2772
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 1: of the game.

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 3: Luke, Now you see, I'm gonna guess he's No, he's not.

2774
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: He beat the odds, God bless him. Well, he didn't

2775
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 1: actually beat the odds. He did get to the goal

2776
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 1: line of this attempt, Luke, But you can't see it. Well,

2777
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: let's go to the alternate angle. The person who chased

2778
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: him was the coach on the sidelines. If we can

2779
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 1: go to the there's the there's the banner for you.

2780
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next video. Watch the coach on

2781
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 1: the sidelines is the opposite field view of this. Oh,

2782
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: he's not having that not on his not eat ass

2783
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: on this field. Son, You only.

2784
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Speaker 3: Eat ass when I tell you it's my ass yo eating.

2785
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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing I do is make him toss

2786
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Speaker 1: my salad with jelly.

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02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you that was great.

2788
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 2: I wanted I would invite that guy if we rented

2789
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: out some venue, I would invite the ass eating guy

2790
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 2: to myr.

2791
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 1: This could make for a tough transition here, Luke, But

2792
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Speaker 1: that's the share of the week. Hope you saw it

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Speaker 1: we had. Anyway, let's invite a female staff member onto

2794
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: the set. Shall so many of you guys we know gaff,

2795
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 1: we can see it right here, so thank you, Gef.

2796
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 1: So many of you guys have don't donated, you know

2797
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: has some thoughts? Thirty dollars to show Time Zone Morning

2798
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Combat's fabric right Assault of the Earth individual Courtney Courty?

2799
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Speaker 1: Do you have a microphone? Who had a Haymaker's for Hope?

2800
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 1: Three round? Amateur about to raise money for cancer victims,

2801
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: And it turned out to be the fight of the night,

2802
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 1: and it turned out to be a very contentious disputed.

2803
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 1: It was decision that I'd like to hear about at

2804
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 1: that at length. Why don't you come on, come on

2805
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: stead here Courtney. There a right of applause for Courtney. Everybody. Yeah,

2806
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 1: hey Courtney, we have his coffee sponsorship notes. Oh, I'm sorry,

2807
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Speaker 1: I'll put this down.

2808
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 3: I was actually hoping we did.

2809
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 1: I was hoping that instead we probably don't. Court Thank

2810
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 1: you for joining us. Happy to be here. I don't

2811
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: want to tell your story for you. Tell us what happened.

2812
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 1: I saw some highlights, and I don't want to say like,

2813
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to use terms like Gotti ward. Oh wow,

2814
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 1: that's my praise.

2815
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate it.

2816
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't you know.

2817
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: I was three rounds, three.

2818
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 4: Round three, two minute round headgear, USA Amateur Boxing Rules,

2819
02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 4: MGM Music Hall, Fenway. It was amazing. All my family

2820
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 4: and friends were there, and you guys were tuning in

2821
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 4: from home. So I very much appreciate that.

2822
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was tough.

2823
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 4: Like I thought, I won rounds one and three. I thought,

2824
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,040
Speaker 4: if I'm being honest with myself, I think that she

2825
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 4: she took the second.

2826
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: She can we frame this problem as a woman.

2827
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Speaker 4: Julia Dreich I believe is her name.

2828
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, do you feel this was properly matched?

2829
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 4: I think it was. I think we were the most

2830
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 4: I think we were the most like evenly matched of

2831
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 4: the night. There was a little bit of slop on

2832
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 4: the card, but I think that we were sort of

2833
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 4: on the not to throw shade or talgety ship. But hey,

2834
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 4: you asked me on here, I'm gonna say what I think.

2835
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it was. I think it was

2836
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 4: a good fight. I thought she won the second round.

2837
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 4: I thought I took the first. Definitely thought I took

2838
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 4: the third.

2839
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 1: Is it like five rounds or is it just nine?

2840
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 4: I honestly, I don't know. I didn't get a copy

2841
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 4: of like the cards, but.

2842
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 1: They I want receipt, you know what.

2843
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should do a little investigation after the fact.

2844
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 4: We judges one and one was one not my way.

2845
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 4: The other two did not, so.

2846
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Now where did you train for this?

2847
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 4: I trained at Citadel MMA, which is on Winter Street

2848
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 4: in Boston with Eric and Zobbie. Can check him out

2849
02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 4: if anyone's interested in the Boston area. They're primarily like

2850
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 4: MMA muy Thai training, but obviously they're well versed in

2851
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 4: boxing and both of them have competed professionally in boxing,

2852
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:38,959
Speaker 4: so got the full gamut of mixed martial arts and boxingo.

2853
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 2: What did you learn from this experience? Besides judging is bullshit.

2854
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:45,839
Speaker 4: Besides yeah, never leave it in the hands of the judges,

2855
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 4: which like obviously we're working at showtime Cliffhanger always see it.

2856
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 4: But to have that happen in real life was definitely,

2857
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 4: uh something special. But I mean I just learned that

2858
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 4: I not to get all sentimental and staffy, but I

2859
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 4: work with the best people in the business, because you

2860
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 4: guys were amazing the entire time. It's like four and

2861
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 4: a half months almost of training.

2862
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 1: So I did anything amazing, I think it was you

2863
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: and no, no, no, but you.

2864
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 4: Guys were so supportive and it was amazing, like from

2865
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 4: like Snyder daily video message, Yeah, like they were.

2866
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: Awesome five and that yeah, yeah, I got you guys, like.

2867
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 4: All the shout outs on the show, the MALLGA team,

2868
02:04:24,040 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 4: everyone was watching, everyone reached out before and after the fight,

2869
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,320
Speaker 4: and so not to get all lean but still feel

2870
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 4: like I won just because I get to work with

2871
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 4: the best.

2872
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: Well, I care a lot about the message and the

2873
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 1: meaning what I took from what I saw on that fight.

2874
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 1: What's up? So there's a dog in there with respect

2875
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: and that you're not good you have I'm gonna guess

2876
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 1: you have not slept well since since this decision. So

2877
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about Cliffhangers, the first thing I asked

2878
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: you when I walked in was we get to rematch it.

2879
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 1: We're going to run this back. I mean, it's just

2880
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 1: like I don't want this woman. I don't want this

2881
02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: woman to walk around telling people. You know, you know,

2882
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: MK wins a lot of awards. We want to win

2883
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: this rematch. So I'm not saying you have to bring

2884
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: us into your corner. Coach. We don't get press releases though,

2885
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 1: well maybe.

2886
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 4: Well maybe we could get one if there is a

2887
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 4: rematch and.

2888
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 1: This find a second chance a sequel, well, you.

2889
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 4: Know, I would have to reach back out to the

2890
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 4: Haymakers for Hope Team and Julia to see if if

2891
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 4: anyone would be game or would want to see it.

2892
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 4: You'd also have to convince my mother, who you guys

2893
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 4: have met and has visited step before. Tracy was not

2894
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 4: doing well during the during the fight, she was like

2895
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 4: a ball of nerves and tears. But oh yeah, that's Zobby.

2896
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 4: So Zobbie was the one to my left, and then

2897
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 4: Lionel is actually one of the fighters at the gym.

2898
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 4: My coach Eric was actually he coached coaches Don who

2899
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 4: was on the UFC card. Unfortunately he lost, yes, yeah, shameless, yes,

2900
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 4: So we unfortunately lost too. So there's a tough night

2901
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,120
Speaker 4: at the office or tough weekend at the office for

2902
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 4: the Citadel crew. But Eric couldn't be there. So I

2903
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 4: had Zobbie and Lionel and they were awesome.

2904
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: And they were great. Okay. I saw, you know, highlights

2905
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 1: where she would land a combo and you would get

2906
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: like Eric Morales level pissed off and you'd come right back.

2907
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't happy. I wasn't happy at all. It was

2908
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 4: it was it's weird, like you try not to lose

2909
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 4: your composure and try to like, you know, work behind

2910
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 4: the stick, but it's not fun getting punched in the face.

2911
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: And I was. I was not pleased.

2912
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 4: I tried to come back with a little bit more,

2913
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 4: but fortunately the judges didn't see it that way. But

2914
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 4: you know, there's always nice.

2915
02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: Any of the judges named Adelaide bird by any chance, I.

2916
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 4: Gotta I gotta check the car, okay. I have heard

2917
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 4: some things about like there's a couple of figures in

2918
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 4: like the Massachusetts and people.

2919
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: Are like, oh, you had to happen. A lot of

2920
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: people talking about White Boulger maybe white.

2921
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 4: It didn't come up, but you know, I should have.

2922
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,800
Speaker 4: I should have asked around see if there's any connections.

2923
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to see your fight in the sequel to

2924
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 1: The Departed. I think it's gonna it's just to be

2925
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 1: you know that.

2926
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 4: I'd be in on we get Lee, I get I'd

2927
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 4: get in on on that all. I guess he died

2928
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 4: in the last once.

2929
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: We couldn't come back.

2930
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 3: Unless I departed. Yeah, I love that.

2931
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not I don't think it's direct.

2932
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 4: Marky Mark that we could get he was the lone survivor.

2933
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 4: I think at the end of that one.

2934
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean we could get one?

2935
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 2: Are you keeping most are you just borrowing the other movie?

2936
02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 1: Well, he's in everything.

2937
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 4: You can't keep track of the guys, So I don't know.

2938
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2939
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 3: Well, we're all proud of you.

2940
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:24,840
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. I know you didn't get your hand raised,

2941
02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 1: but congratulations. Just the same thirty one k plus four

2942
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 1: answer researchingulations on this.

2943
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and thank you all the MK fans that donated,

2944
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 4: some of you that reached out on social was very sweet.

2945
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 1: The fact that you guys removed.

2946
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:42,960
Speaker 4: That you guys removed to donate. I really appreciate it,

2947
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 4: and it was amazing to have you guys support my

2948
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 4: twenty five k fund rosing goal, which I surpassed by

2949
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 4: a long shot. So thank you all so much, and

2950
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 4: so sorry for taking up precious air.

2951
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 1: Precious question.

2952
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,960
Speaker 2: Was there any singular punch that landed that you felt like, oh,

2953
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 2: that was such a shot, like you could just you

2954
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 2: remembered landing clean.

2955
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 4: I remember in the first round I thought I landed

2956
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 4: three really clean jabs that like popped her head back

2957
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 4: that I was like, yeah. And then in the last

2958
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 4: round I landed some nice lead hooks that I was

2959
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 4: I was especially proud of because I had worked on

2960
02:08:17,800 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 4: those a little bit in training.

2961
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 1: There's a neighborhood in boxing that we don't always talk about.

2962
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: It's called queer street. When you get rocked, you're you're

2963
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 1: the reason we don't talk about it. Yeah, I don't

2964
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: know if you know. It's an old term. And the

2965
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,040
Speaker 1: whole point is, you know, you get into fight or

2966
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 1: flight mode and you've got to navigate. Did you did

2967
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 1: you get into trouble at all?

2968
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 4: No, I never felt like rocked or in trouble or

2969
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:39,280
Speaker 4: out of it or as she wobbled mirror.

2970
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 3: And did you get tired?

2971
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 4: Definitely, like at the end of the rounds, like you

2972
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 4: feel because you're exert Like how many times in your

2973
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:49,200
Speaker 4: life are you exerting maximum like physical effort in such

2974
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 4: a short period of time. So, but the full minute

2975
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 4: rest really like helped you reset. So I at the

2976
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 4: end of it, I thought I could have gone for

2977
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 4: a couple more rounds, but fortunately it was only three

2978
02:08:58,560 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 4: pipe And next.

2979
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 1: Time we can get the got dissect it. We're gonna

2980
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 1: wait until.

2981
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:04,880
Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm gonna get rip to shreds. I don't

2982
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 4: know about that defense was a little.

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Speaker 3: I don't know seeing Jack Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell Julia Rose, no.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations one more time. Thank you guys, in pretty incredible

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Speaker 2: job you did.

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Speaker 1: You should be very proud of factory to factory tough.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, we see that is it for us today.

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Speaker 1: We have any of our camera guys have been in

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Speaker 1: a fight. I mean, does it look like it, Big

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Speaker 1: Lou Although it's from Jersey, I want to make a

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Speaker 1: joke about him being a Syria off fan and how

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Speaker 1: racist they are. But it would get me into trouble,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: All right, how do you think we did with these

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they sound. Did it sounds yeah,

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Speaker 2: it sounded okay, all right, they're complaining. Oh okay, well

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Speaker 2: that's what they do. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well we tried.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this might be the last show we do,

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Speaker 2: all right. I want to remind everyone showtown dot com

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Speaker 2: is the label that pays. You can go to a

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Speaker 2: showtime dot com get a thirty day free trial. You

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Speaker 2: can I think that up to the social graphic already,

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Speaker 2: but you can check that out there. We're on TikTok

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Speaker 2: check us out on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we have an interview plan with Deontay Wilder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we shouldn't say that because now it's not going

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Speaker 2: to happen. Oh he'll be there, all right, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's see. Well let me check my we're supposed to

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Speaker 2: talk to Deontay today, so we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Morningcombat dot Store if you want to get merch that

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Speaker 2: none of us are wearing, that's available there.

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Speaker 1: And uh that's it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Morning Combat at Gmail dot com moarning combat at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com for Wednesday's fans subs Friday Day run

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Speaker 2: by the way we should set this up. We're going

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Speaker 2: to be back right here on Saturday because BC and

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Speaker 2: I are at least scheduled as it stands, to call

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Speaker 2: the prelim fights for the upcoming Showtime Championship Boxing card.

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Speaker 1: Correct schedule.

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Speaker 3: We get I'm doing a bit.

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Speaker 1: We get tea and biscuits with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just doing a bit. We're scheduled to do that,

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Speaker 3: So we'll be here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be calling the prelims. Luke and I

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Speaker 1: right here Saturday. Of course, that tripleheader main evented by

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Speaker 1: Sebastian Fundora's right Carlos for the interim Junior middleweight strap Carson, California.

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Speaker 1: So what are they call it now? The home uh

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Speaker 1: Butch Bowl. What's the official name of the venue now? Depot? No,

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Speaker 1: that was the old one. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Dignity Health. What's it called Dignity Health? It was? Of

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Speaker 1: course it was Coordiney that pulled you know, that's brought

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Speaker 1: us back.

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Speaker 2: There's no dignity on this then, I can assure you. So,

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Speaker 2: uh go watch that one because that's where all the

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Speaker 2: dignity will be, all right. So for the Connecticut King himself,

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 2: for watching it. Until next time, may all of your

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Speaker 2: gains be loyal,