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Speaker 1: special guest today Thomas Q. Jones. And I got my

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Speaker 1: What Up? What up? What's up? Brother? What's up? My guy?

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Speaker 1: And uh, I hear no lies in that statement. I

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Speaker 1: read a little bit about this brother. So Thomas Jones

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Speaker 1: the football player he played twelve years. He was my

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Speaker 1: really dive into that because anytime we can celebrate those

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00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: that are doing other things outside of the helmet because

430
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: that's you know, I'm so much more recognized personally now

431
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: without a helmet on doing some TV stuff than I

432
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: ever was with all the great stuff I accomplished with

433
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: the helmet on. And it's probably very true for you

434
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: as well. Right, No, you're exactly right, and I'm glad

435
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: you made that point. Um. As a as a football player,

436
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: we're trained to not be vulnerable, not show weakness. That's

437
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: how you get beat in football. But that's not the

438
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: human element, it's not human nature. We all are vulnerable

439
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: at times, we all have weaknesses and insecurities. Uh. And

440
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: unfortunately for us as as football players, we're taught the

441
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: majority of our lives to not be human in a way,

442
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: and so that becomes that becomes a habit. And then

443
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: when you retired or when you're not in on the

444
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: field or in an NFL locker room, you know, you

445
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: still have those habits. Yeah, so a lot of times

446
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: we seem very irrational to a lot of people who

447
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: don't understand our world as NFL players. Sometimes it's hard

448
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: for me to watch some of these, uh the sports shows. Obviously,

449
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: people are getting paid to talk about football and sports,

450
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: and I totally get it. I respected, but a lot

451
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: of times I was sitting I watched some of these people,

452
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: you know that have a perspective that's interesting that that

453
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: have never actually played, and especially played in the NFL,

454
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: and and it's so wild to just completely hear some

455
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: of the things that they say and realize that I

456
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: would love for one of these people just to have

457
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: to put on a uniform on on on game day,

458
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: not even practice on game day, and actually have to

459
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: play and just and then what would your perspective be

460
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: if you made it out of warm ups without saying

461
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: I can't do this. And definitely if you made it

462
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: through a four quarter game playing one of the three

463
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: mere positions running back, dB, safety, corner, linebacker, center, quarterback,

464
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: what would your perspective be after that game? Um, So

465
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: that's why you know, this docuseries was important to me

466
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: because usually other people that didn't play or don't have

467
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: our experience as speaking for us. And that's what I

468
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: love about technology. Now we have podcasts, we have we're

469
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: able to create docuseries and speak our own voice and

470
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: speak our own truths. You know, I see you on

471
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: SEC network that I'm always proud of you and Tikio,

472
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just happy because you guys are very very

473
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: important to the voice as players because you give authenticity

474
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: to our experience. Uh and you and you combat certain

475
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: people who might not know the experience. And there are

476
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: there are certain people who are haters um and don't

477
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: want to know our experience. They want to say what

478
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: they want to say because they might not like us

479
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: as athletes, that might be envious of us as athletes.

480
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: And that's just real talk. So I enjoy seeing guys

481
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: like you all representing us, Guys that I played against,

482
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: been in the trenches with. I've seen you on the

483
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: scouting report on Wednesday. I know this dude, right, He's

484
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: always around the ball. He's a ball hawk, you know.

485
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: So it's good to get the passion and the real

486
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: specific nuance information from you all, um on on on TV.

487
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: And that's and that's how I feel about this docuseries.

488
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: If you watch Life After on act no, I think

489
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: you did an amazing job with that and um and

490
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: talking about your second act now okay, UM, and so

491
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: you said acting saved you. What was it about acting

492
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: that drew you to it when you didn't have a

493
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: passion for it? Because you said you you lacked passion

494
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: when you first retired. I think I was just looking

495
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: for anything to do. To be honest, I was really

496
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: really bored. I didn't have I'm very passionate person about

497
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: whatever I pursued with football. I was one of those

498
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: guys that I was in the locker room, weight room,

499
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: film room all day. I would watch film. We have

500
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Wednesday work day. You know we can leave at five. Um,

501
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm there till eight. Yeah, and then I go home

502
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: and I watched the DVDs at home, and I fall

503
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: asleep watching the DVDs. That maybe eleven, and then I

504
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: wake up and I get maybe five or six. I

505
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: was sleeping. I'm back over there five thirty six. Um.

506
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: So I dedicate myself to whatever I'm trying to be great. Uh,

507
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: at and so acting was something that I didn't know

508
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: that I needed. I didn't know that I would fall

509
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: in love with. I didn't know that I would develop

510
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: a passion for. But what I realized was that once

511
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: I started acting and I started to take it serious

512
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: and got it just some acting classes, is that it

513
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: was similar to football. UM, in a lot of ways,

514
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: even from just the specifics of it. You have your

515
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: playbook in the NFL. The more you know your playbook,

516
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: the more you don't have to think on the field,

517
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: You just react. UM. Same thing with a TV script

518
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: or movie script. The more you know the script, the

519
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: more you know your character, the more you know your lines.

520
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about your lines. You're not thinking about UM,

521
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: do I look stupid? Do I sound stupid? You're like, no,

522
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I know my lines. How do I make this character believable.

523
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: How do I tap into, um, whatever the emotional experience

524
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: this character is having based off of my similar emotional

525
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: experiences in my life and breathe life into the character. Um,

526
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: that's psychological. That takes a lot of work. UM. The

527
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: same thing with the pressure. Uh. You know you play

528
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: on Monday night football. There's no there's no edit there's

529
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: no edit button on that. You come up, you you

530
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: miss a tackle and the dude scores as it from

531
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: the millions of people at home. You don't get it

532
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: bars and it's going to continue to be replayed. As

533
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: as an actor, you do have different takes. But before

534
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: the director says action, that adrenaline is there. You know

535
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: your lines, you know the work that you've done, you

536
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: know the notes to the director has given you. It's

537
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: your close up. Now the cameras on you. You've already

538
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: shot the wide shots, so everyone you've done with that.

539
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: Now it's your close up type shot on your face.

540
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: So you have to action boom. You gotta dig in.

541
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: You gotta dive into that character. You gotta dive into

542
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: those emotions. You have to dive into whatever you're feeling,

543
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: and you have to convey that at that take. And

544
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: if you don't and the edit bay they don't have,

545
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: they don't have your best take. So that's what you're

546
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna look. So I think the energy, the passion for

547
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: acting came from me being able to connect it in

548
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: a lot of ways to football and also the competition.

549
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: A lot of competition, man. You know some incredible actors

550
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: out here. So to book some of these roles or

551
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: to get some of your projects picked up, you got

552
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: to compete. So I think that's what made me really say, Hey,

553
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: this is something that it's gonna save my legacy that

554
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: I've created and potentially saved my life too. Like when

555
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I hear you speak about it, you're passionate about it

556
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: number one, And it's like, man, you have taking time

557
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: to know what that feelings like. And there's nothing better

558
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: than knowing the feeling like, man, I got it right,

559
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: and that I can do this, and like the confidence

560
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: in which you speak of Like man, when the action hits,

561
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: not only do I know my words, bro, but I'm

562
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: ready to kill it. You know, as football players were

563
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: naturally actors. Some of the biggest characters you've ever made

564
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: in your life have been You're not lied about that,

565
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: actually and and and they're just naturally funny or naturally

566
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: interesting people. You know, it's just channeling that energy into

567
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: something else, and that's what it is. That's a beautiful

568
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: thing about coming from the NFL. I'm as an actor. Uh,

569
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't a blueprint, but I've always been in front

570
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: of the camera. Winner luge. You have to talk to

571
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the media. So you're under the microscope at all times.

572
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Everything you do is going to be criticized. It's never

573
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: good enough. And you know you you go from being

574
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: Roman Harper, that's you know, chilling in your locker before

575
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: the game, but then after that coin toss, you turned

576
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: into Roman Harper before the one different year. That's a

577
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: different person than than the men's home. With your family,

578
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: in your in your six year old son, you tap

579
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: into something else. Um. So you naturally able to do

580
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: that because you've been doing that entire life. So we're

581
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: actually more prepared to be actors, and a lot of

582
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: actors are. Um, we just don't realize that. But I

583
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: put the work in. Like you said earlier, I trained

584
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: for four years and two different actors studios. I was

585
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: in acting classes for six hours a week. Um, So

586
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm a trained actor. The training process is what helped

587
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: me get out of the state of depression that I

588
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: was in and as a as a former NFL player,

589
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: because I was able to channel all that energy into

590
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: studying the craft and put all of the raw emotions

591
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: and trauma in my life into these scenes in in

592
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: my in my in my classes, and then that translated

593
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: to using those techniques into the characters, whether it be

594
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: an audition or whether it be in an actual project

595
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: at I booked. So I'm loving this now as we

596
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: as we continue to unpill all this on the Lewys

597
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: of this onion here. Now, you gotta tell me one

598
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: thing because I'm reading your name right now. Not everybody

599
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: knows this, but when you added the que to your

600
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: professional name to throw people off with you being a

601
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: football player, um didn't work right out the gate. Or

602
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's hard to hide your physique, bro, Like,

603
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: let's just be honest with you. Walk in and they're

604
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: like all right, um, all right, you're Thomas Jones and

605
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: so now you're gonna be Thomas Q. Jones. But like, bro,

606
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: you look like you do something right? Like that has

607
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: to be the question all the time, right. Well, the

608
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: funny part about it is people in Hollywood don't think

609
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: about football players. They have no idea about it. You're right,

610
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: they're multiple men in Hollywood that have my physique that

611
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: looks just like actors. You know, I was able to

612
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: have a really really good career, but you know I

613
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: had braids most of my career. I look friend and

614
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: also I wasn't always on TV. You know. Usually I

615
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy that was always a friend of the camera,

616
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: and I wasn't always doing something to bring attention to myself.

617
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: So I was able to slide in as Thomas Q.

618
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Jones um because people definitely did not expect Thomas Jones

619
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: from the Bears and the Jets to be a real actor.

620
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: And so that's why I added the middle initial, because

621
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw people off just enough so in

622
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: case they did know, they they wouldn't judge me based

623
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: off of my football career, but based off of whatever

624
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: role that I was playing. And by that time, once

625
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: you see that I can act, then you can't say,

626
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: that's Thomas Jones trying to act. Now that's Thomas Q. Jones.

627
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh you know that's Thomas Jones from the Bears. What

628
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Thomas Q. Jones the guy and blah blah blah, yeah,

629
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: yeah boom, because they say, what you don't you know,

630
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: you don't get it. You never get a second chance

631
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: to make a first impression. So by that time it's

632
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: too late. I'm Thomas Q. Jones already. That just so

633
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: happened to play in the NFL versus Thomas Jones for

634
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: the Bears is now now he's trying to act, of course,

635
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: all right type of thing. All right, tell me one

636
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: quick answer this and I got another follow up. The

637
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: Q stands for Quinn of the middle name. So that

638
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: was what I was initially, things like it's probably his

639
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: real name, like the Q stands for like what his

640
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: real middle name is? Or did he just come up

641
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: with it, like just because it kind of gloss? Okay,

642
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: got it. Now. I've also listened to you another invision.

643
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: You said you win bare bones. You're talking about Hollywood.

644
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: You win bare bones. When you start in Hollywood, you

645
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: had no car, Uh, living in the studio apartment in Hollywood,

646
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: you walk to auditions. Uh take us through that experience,

647
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: and like, how long did you do that? Or how

648
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: long did that last? No car in l A with

649
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: those hills, I mean seems like it seems kind of real, bro, Yeah,

650
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: no it is. And and to be honest, I still

651
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: lived that way in l A. I've been I've lived

652
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: in Miami since two thousands of four, So this is

653
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: what my permanent residences is in Miami. Um I realized, Um,

654
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: if I'm going to pursue acting and I'm going to

655
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: pursue it in a way where UM, I have I

656
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: want to be great, I have to create some sort

657
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: of stakes. I have to create something, uh, some sort

658
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: of environment that's gonna push me. So when I moved

659
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: to l A, I've got a studio apartment, um, right

660
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of Hollywood. Didn't bring my car. I

661
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: would literally walk um two meetings. UM. Or I would

662
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: catch a cab so I might I might be sitting

663
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: in a cab for an hour going to from Hollywood

664
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: to uh Marina del Rey to do an audition, and

665
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: then I would get a cab after the audition all

666
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: the way back and I'm sitting in another hour and

667
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: a half because I'm in traffic. And I did all

668
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: of that just to be told, no, you didn't book

669
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: the role. Um. So you know, living in that studio apartment,

670
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: which I still live in now, meeting other aspiring actors,

671
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: living with people who get are who weren't fortunate enough

672
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: to have the same opportunities. Maybe that I had to

673
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: live in the same environment I had. It really forced

674
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: me to be extremely humble and appreciate any opportunity that

675
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: I that I earned. UM. And it also helped me

676
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: earn the respect of of other actors because they didn't

677
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: even some guys and even my classes, they were some

678
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: guys and someone who would know that's Thomas Jones. You know,

679
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: my dad is a big fan or blah blah blah.

680
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: But they didn't see me that way because I was

681
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: in classes like them. I never talked about football. Um,

682
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: I was humble. I was one of the one of

683
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: the students. Were all learning together, we're all acting together

684
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: and being critiqued and criticized together. Um. So that's why

685
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: I took that route, because I needed to really psychologically

686
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: transform into an aspiring artist to understand what that experience

687
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: felt like, to see if it even matter enough for

688
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: me to continue to pursue it. You know what, man,

689
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: And this is completely off topic, but um, you seem happy, bro.

690
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: Like you seem like you're finding your space, You're finding

691
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: your way. You seem very happy bro in content. And this,

692
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: this Thomas Q. Jones, is this like who the real

693
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: version of you is? This is like they really are? Yeah,

694
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: I think I think this is the real version of

695
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: who I am outside of football. Because football make you

696
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: a certain type of way, especially especially when you play

697
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: a long time. You you, But you have to be

698
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: that way to be successful, um and have longevity. If

699
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: you notice all of the guys like us that played

700
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: multiple years, we have a certain edge to us. We

701
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: have a certain fearlessness to us. We have a certain

702
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: type of confidence and certain type of mystique. Um. Because

703
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: you have to think you can be a humble person

704
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: and a down to earth person. But that's football is

705
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: not the sport for that. On the field, UM, you

706
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: have to stick your chest out at all times. And

707
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: sometimes that translates into your real life. Um. And if

708
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: you don't have something that you can tap into two,

709
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: understand that it's okay to be insecure, it's okay to

710
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: be vulnerable. So okay, did not stick your chest out,

711
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: So okay, did not be the man, the outpha dog,

712
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: the best of the best. Um. Then you're gonna be

713
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: like that the rest of your life because you have

714
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: to consciously figure out how to get out of that

715
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: mental space. And if you don't have kids or a

716
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: family or something UM that reminds you that you're human,

717
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: uh and not the superhero that you you have to

718
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: be as a football player, you're not going to really

719
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: truly find happiness within yourself, because that happiness still comes

720
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: from the respect you get from other players, the money

721
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: you get, the attention you get. That's still a part

722
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: of your confidence in who you are. So I think

723
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: acting because I've opened myself up to vulnerability, open myself

724
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: up to being human again. I've been able to find

725
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: a space of peace within myself and and then being

726
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: able to act and play different characters and and different

727
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: experiences that these characters have had. Um, and open my

728
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: mind up to things that I might not have been

729
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: as open minded too before. Um, it's just given me

730
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: a different perspective in the world and people in general. Yeah,

731
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: so I know where you're at now. You probably hear

732
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: the football stuff all the time, But when you're in

733
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: these meetings with Hollywood guys, like, do you ever feel

734
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: like you need to shrink yourself so you don't seem

735
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: too big? Or you know, like because you know, my

736
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: I was always taught this man like man, bro, don't

737
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: you ever stop, don't you let your don't let anybody

738
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: else ever dim your life. Right Like, no matter what

739
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: room you in, you you just keep shining like that

740
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: always is who you are. You can't let others dim

741
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: your life and So I wonder what that when you're

742
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood or you're out there these acting places,

743
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: like do you ever have that that aware with all

744
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: of that awareness, Like, man, I'm in the space where

745
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: I might need to like shrink myself or do you

746
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, I gotta continue to be me.

747
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: That's a great question, great question, And I struggle with that.

748
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I will say that I

749
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: struggle with, Uh, is because I'm living a double life. Yeah. Uh,

750
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the guys that I have

751
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: worked with him in Hollywood and and and consistently work

752
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: with in Hollywood, Um, they don't really know my former life,

753
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: which is still my life when I come home. When

754
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: I come home, uh you know me, I don't I

755
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: don't have the studio apartment, I don't walk everywhere. I

756
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: don't I don't have those same conversations or relationships. Um,

757
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: you know when I come home, you know, I'm I'm

758
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: around you know people that that I've known for twenty

759
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: plus years. Uh, that aren't aspiring actors or artists. They're

760
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: accomplished in whatever they're doing. Um. So I might be

761
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: on a yacht just with a drink like you know

762
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: those uh, you know, just chilling, or I might be

763
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: at the next game court side, um, or a heat

764
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: game court side, or I might be a problem in

765
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: twelve on South Beach, Um have an expensive dinner, you know,

766
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and with the owner of the restaurant who's like my

767
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: brother for twenty years. You know. Um. That's so a

768
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, I struggle with that because

769
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: how do you sometimes dim your light so people don't

770
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: feel insecure, but also not make yourself feel small. Um.

771
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not responsible for someone else's life being

772
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: darker bright, um, But I do try to shine light

773
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: on people and shine whatever light that I have to

774
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: show them that hey, you're like and be bright too. Um.

775
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: But it's very, very difficult sometimes because I get caught

776
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: between the Thomas Jones guy who you know, it's here

777
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: and status and how I move and the time it's

778
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Q Jones guy who has to work in his environments

779
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: and work in certain situations that Thomas Jones wouldn't have

780
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: the patience. Two Also, he wouldn't set himself up to

781
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: work with certain people who don't have as much to

782
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: loses him. M you know. So it's a very complex situation.

783
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: That's a great question that you ask, because that's the

784
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: one struggle that I have, and I think I consistently

785
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: have that because I have this dual uh life that

786
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: I've that I've chosen to live. But hopefully as an

787
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: the actor, Thomas Q. Jones and producer is slowly evolving

788
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: and catching up to the Thomas Jones football player. So

789
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: we can Thomas Jones and Thomas ke Jones can meet

790
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: the middle. The more more we talked, bro, I had

791
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: to know. That's why I just had to ask, all right,

792
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to right now and then we're gonna

793
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: come right back with quick hitters to get you up

794
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: out of here. Thomas, appreciate it, man, Thank you, you

795
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: gut thank you. All right, man, We're back here with

796
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: my man, Thomas Q. Jones. The best version of himself

797
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: is what I've heard. That's what I call him. It

798
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: don't matter what everybody else thinks about him. I know

799
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: it's jet some bearrass fans out there going crazy, but no,

800
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Thomas Q. Jones is a beautiful man. It's nothing but

801
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: great vibes going on today. All right, all right, Thomas,

802
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of questions from quick hitters. I

803
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: want first thing come to mind. I want answers, I

804
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: want honesty, and this is what we all the people

805
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: tune in for you ready, okay, and this is a

806
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: question that I would love to know. Alright. Number one,

807
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: what was the most you bench pressed during your playing days?

808
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: The most of bench pressed was five huh, that's the most.

809
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: And that was that was actually my tenth eleventh year

810
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I was that's the grown man strength.

811
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: That's what. I agree. He's not all the people, he's Yeah,

812
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: that's what That's why I got the gray hairs. Now, yeah,

813
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: grown man strength kicks in about like thirty one, thirty two,

814
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: thirty three year is bro. It just doesn't take as

815
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: much to lift his heavy like, no, you just maintain

816
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: the strength. Okay, Okay, I'm very impressed with the number.

817
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking about four twenties. You put me at

818
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: four fifty five. I love it. I love it all right.

819
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: Better atmosphere a locker room or a movie or TV

820
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: set mm hmm, the locker room okay, alright. The locker

821
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: room environment is just it's just so many personalities, so

822
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: there's so much going on. You have one conversation here

823
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: that's completely something wild. And then you have a conversation

824
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: over here that's about stocks and bonds. And then you

825
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: have you know, somebody over here in the locker that's wrapping. Uh.

826
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's like a it's like a variety

827
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: show in the locker room. Always entertain great point and

828
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: the fact that you brought up stocks and bonds, I

829
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: know that conversation, yes, very and then you have somebody

830
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: rapping over here on the other side. It's all right.

831
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: When winning an Oscar makeup for not winning the super Bowl.

832
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, No, I don't okay, good, I'm I'm gonna see.

833
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: I knew Thomas Q. Jones was honest, not like no, no,

834
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: that super Bowl super Bowl is what man? I mean.

835
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I didn't dream of winning an Oscar as a as

836
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: a kid. As a kid, I dreamed of winning a

837
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. So although it would be an incredible

838
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: honor to win an Oscar, uh, and it would feel great,

839
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: uh something about having that ring to flash everywhere you

840
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: go and being a part of NFL history as a

841
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: world champion. There's no better feeling than that as a

842
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: football player. Yeah, I'm with you, man, And it's so

843
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: hard too. All right, So what's your favorite character you've played.

844
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: My favorite character out of all the characters that I played,

845
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: would probably be my character on Marvel's Lue Cage, Comanche.

846
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: I think that would love that show. He loved that show. Well,

847
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: he was a great show, great show. Hated to see

848
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: that it it was wasn't renewed. Um, but that character

849
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: was incredible because it was a very layered character. Shout

850
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: out the Jail Coker, the creator of the show, who

851
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: believed in me. Um that gave me the opportunity to

852
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: play that character. And shout out to Alfrey Woodard, incredible actor,

853
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: beautiful woman inside and now Theo Rossi, my brother who

854
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: played Shades uh partner and crime on the show. I

855
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: developed an incredible relationship with Theo and Alfrey Woodard Uh.

856
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: During that second season of Luke Cage, Um and I

857
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: grew a lot as an actor. There was a lot

858
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: of pressure on me during that season to uh to

859
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: bring this character to life, this very complex character. UH.

860
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: And I was able to step up to the plate

861
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: and and it gave me a lot of confidence moving forward.

862
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, Comanche on Marka's Luke Cage was so far

863
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: my favorite character that I've been able to play. I'm

864
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: just glad you didn't say Thomas Q. Jones. All Right,

865
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: who's the actor you want to work with the most

866
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: that you haven't yet? So you would love to? Man

867
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: so many incredible actors. Uh, obviously I did go watching too.

868
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: This is incredible. I think that's kind of the typical answer,

869
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: But I would love to. I was thinking about this

870
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: guy the other night. I'm a huge fan is Robert Duval.

871
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: And I know Robert Duval is older now, as an

872
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: older and older actor, I don't even know if he's

873
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: even acting anymore. But um, I watched so many of

874
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: his movies and so many of his projects, and he's

875
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: such at that first character from Armageddon. Um, I think

876
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: it was only getting a deep impact. One of those

877
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: one of those films, uh, to Lonesome Devil Western that

878
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I grew up watching with my father. Um, I see

879
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: actors like that who are so diverse. Um, and I'm

880
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: like wow, uh. And actually I would have loved to

881
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: have acted with before he passed with it was Patrick Swayze. H.

882
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayze was was an incredible actor. Violet Davis and

883
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm giving any more names than one but there's just

884
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: I can't answer that with one name. Violet Davis. Uh

885
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: is I mean, there's so many actors that I look

886
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: up to and look at it and I'm like a

887
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: pattern my career actor them in a way, in a

888
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: way some of their styles as actors. Um, I'll pay

889
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: attention to and learn from. Okay, last one here? Who

890
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: is on your Mount Russiamore personal Mount Rushmore? You know,

891
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and it's just four. This is a hard thing for

892
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: all of us. Just for go Mount Rushmore of what exactly,

893
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: but like just in people like that have influenced your life.

894
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: Got you okay? Ah? Man? My father, all right? One

895
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: Malcolm x two um, one of my high school coaches,

896
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Barry Jones, Okay, and yes, and one more person. Wow,

897
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: what a question? What a question in my entire life?

898
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: A man, I would have to say my running backs

899
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: coach Jimmy Ray, Okay, I like it now. Yeah, last

900
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: thing out here, and I want you to share this

901
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: personal story. I've heard it already and we're gonna get

902
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: you out here, Thomas. But could you tell the people

903
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: why you were number twenty? Yeah? I wore number twenty

904
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: because my mother and father, UM work to combine twenty

905
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: years in the coal mines of Virginia. My mother worked

906
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: nineteen years underground, and my father worked one year and

907
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: was laid off and he couldn't get back in the

908
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: coal mine. So, UM, nineteen plus one is twenty. And

909
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: when I saw him with the Chicago Bears in two

910
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: thousand four, UM, I felt like that was a rebirth

911
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: for me. It was a new opportunity for me to

912
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: jump start my career. And UM, I won of the

913
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: twenties motivation because every time I stepped out on the field,

914
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: I thought about all the things that they sacrifice for

915
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: me to even have that opportunity to be there. So

916
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: that's why our number twenty it will always be a

917
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: very special number of me. Well, look, man, Thomas, Man,

918
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Appreciate you sharing. Like I told you earlier, man,

919
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: vulnerability is equal strength, man, and I appreciate the being

920
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: vulnerable with us today, sharing all your stories, sharing all

921
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: your times. And I hope everybody picked up on that today. Man.

922
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: And uh, thank you, Bro. I really appreciate you spending

923
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: some time with us today. Thank you, Thomas. Well, I

924
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: appreciate you on having me and this platform is huge, man,

925
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: what you all are doing with this podcast and with

926
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: the Pivot podcast, and um, you know, even I am athlete,

927
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, I know that's a little bit different. But

928
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: in regards to just you know, grounded people, grounded conversations,

929
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: what you all are doing, Man, is is groundbreaking. It's

930
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: never been done before. Man, it's never been done before.

931
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: People have a lot of misconceptions about us as for

932
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: MAN NFL players and its current NFL players, and the

933
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about it is, Man, you guys care enough

934
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: to have a podcast like this to give former players

935
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: a voice, which which matters a lot, Man, So thank

936
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: you for having me on MAN. I appreciate the questions

937
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: that were the dope, dope ass interview. Man, it was

938
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: dope questions, very well thought out questions. I'll made me

939
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: think a lot that last one. Man, I felt kind

940
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: of bad. I see my mom. I can't now my

941
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: mom came. I definitely have my mom because I'm like,

942
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: like football, like, okay, my dad obviously that's my best friend.

943
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: Only four people. You know that it's all you get. Dog,

944
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's the hardest one. Everybody struggles because

945
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: they don't know to go family or they do, like

946
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: old family. Then I just do. It's a hard wood.

947
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: It's a hard wood. Well. Thank you Thomas Q. Jones

948
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: for joining us today, blessing us with your time, your

949
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: your your vibes, your mindset, everything that you've been able

950
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: to complish and accomplish in your second acts. It's been

951
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: amazing to hear today, Peanut, what you feel. I felt

952
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: that that was like entertainment to night quality. Man, you know,

953
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: these your your interview schools. You're just getting. I think

954
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be leaving the college scene and headed to

955
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: l A doing doing some of these interviews, interviewing some

956
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: of the stars. Man, you're getting really good now. Man,

957
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting kind of jealous. You're surpassing me.

958
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: You're actually above me right now. You're on a hell

959
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: of a job. I gotta man, I say, man, it's

960
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: all about eye contact. Let's make this thing very conversational.

961
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: We'll just see where it goes. Hopefully we've got some

962
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: good TV or man even better on a podcast. Them them,

963
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: them NFL broadcast Blue Camps. They've served you well, brother,

964
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: they served you well well. Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Man.

965
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you guys, up out of here. Thank

966
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: you to all the listeners for tuning in. I asked

967
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: you once again to spread the word and to give

968
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: us a rating of review and a follow on Apple podcast,

969
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcast.

970
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: This is me and p Nut Dillman and we're out

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Speaker 1: with the NFL players. Second Acts Podcast