1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where Liz Sheppers 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: scored the ot winner to lead the Minnesota Frost to 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: a second straight walter Cup. We've asked the WNBA for comment, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: and if you don't get that joke, honestly, good for 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: you out there. You're probably touching grass and feeling the 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: sun instead of living. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: On the internet like us. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, May twenty eighth, and on today's show, we'll 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: be bringing you my conversation with pro golfer and LPGA 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: tour player Mariah Stackhouse ahead of this weekend's US Open. 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: We talk about growing up a prodigy, the cost of 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: life on tour, dealing with injuries, including the one keeping 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: her out of this weekend's tourney. 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: And more. 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Plus so many champions were crowned over the weekend, Caitlin 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Clark is sidelined, and the NWSL's next expansion squad has 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: its head coach. 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this Welcome back slices. 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. Let's start on 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: the ice with the PWHL. The Minnesota Frost completed their 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: title defense, securing a second straight walter Cup with their 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: win on Monday, Entering Game four on home ice, the 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Frost r up two to one in the series and 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: with eleven twenty four fans cheering them on inside Excel 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: Energy Center, Minnesota found its first goal in the second 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: period thanks to friend of the Show Kelly Panic. Ottawa's 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Teresa Venisheva answered in the third, setting up overtime for 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the fourth time in four games in the series. 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: In the n Frost. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Forward Liz Sheppers showed off her clutch gene once again, 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: scoring the championship winning goal for the second year in 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: a row. We also got a shout out front of 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: the Show Matti Rooney, who made thirty three saves for 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota in the win. With the start and the win, 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: she earned her fifth straight postseason victory, tying the PWHL 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: record for most wins in a single postseason set by 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Boston's Aaron Frankel last year. Two seasons, two titles for 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the Frost, we got the beginnings of a little dynasty 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: cook in here, folks. Crossfield, North Carolina put the cherry 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: on top of its undefeated season on Sunday, beating Northwestern 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: twelve to eight to earn the programme's fourth women's lacrosse title. 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: A record fourteen thy four hundred and twenty three fans 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: attended the twenty twenty five national Final, obliterating the previous 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: record of eleven thousand and six sixty eight. The game 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: was a grind, with both teams notatching their lowest point 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: totals of the season. There were a couple of really 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: cool family connections in this one. UNC head coach Jenny 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Levy and her daughter, freshman Kate Levy, became the first 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: mother daughter combo to win the championship, and Kate scored 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: UNC's second goal in the dub Grad student attacker Ashley 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Humphrey hit ninety assists on the season in the title game, 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: breaking her own nc doublea single season assist record from 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, while her sister, freshman attacker Chloe Humphrey, 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: recorded her ninetieth goal of the season and NCUBA freshman record. 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: And there's more. 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: The eldest sister of the three, Nicole, is also on 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: the UNC roster this season, but she didn't play the 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: championship game. You could say that lacrosse prowess runs in 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: the family. Two more quick shoutouts from the Lacrosse Weekend. 60 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: My friend Stu Gotts's daughter Rachel Wiener, whose Northwestern squad 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: came up just short of the title, and my Cornell 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: big Red who won the men's National championship, first title 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: in lacrosse for Cornell since nineteen seventy seven. And getting 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: to watch the game with my college friends on Monday 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: at my friend's lake house was the perfect way to 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: close out the perfect girls weekend. Some footy news congratulations 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: are in order for Gotham FC. The NWSL club won 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the inaugural CONCACAFF W Champions Cup on Saturday, earning a 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: one nail dub over Liga MX club Tigris uanl Feminil. 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: No idea what the CONCACAFF W Champions Cup is. It's 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: a tournament that brings together the top women's soccer clubs 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: from North America, Central America and the Caribbean. And you 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: remember we told you it actually started last season. Okay, 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: back to the match. So after missing a penalty kick, 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Aster Gonzales controlled the rebound and bare married the game 76 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: winning goal for Gotham in the eighty second minute. I mean, 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: who else would it be that lady is on a heater. 78 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: With the win, Gotham FC has secured a spot in 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: both the inaugural FIFA Champions Cup in twenty twenty six 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: and the inaugural FIFA Women's Club World Cup in twenty 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Also got to give a tip of the 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: cap to the Portland Thorns, who defeated Club America three 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: nil to take third place in the tournament. More soccer news. 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Boston Legacy FC has found its head woman per friend 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: at the Show Jeff Casouf at ESPN. The club has 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: agreed to terms with Felipa Pateau, who's been heading up 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Portuguese club Benfica's senior team since twenty twenty. Pateau led 88 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: the squad to five consecutive league titles and helped Benfica 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: become the first Portuguese club to reach the UEFA Women's 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Champions League quarterfinals in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. Now, 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the thirty six year old, who was nominated for the 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Ballon d'Or for Coach of the Year last year, will 93 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: be under contract with Boston until twenty twenty seven and 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: lead the side in its first NWSL season next year. 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: A little more NWSL news. 96 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: Huge kudos to Barbara Banda in the Orlando Pride three 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: to one win over the Utah Royals. On Friday, Banda 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: scored the fastest hat trick in NWSL history, completing it 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: in the first thirty eight minutes of the match. She 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: scored in the sixth thirty seventh, and thirty eighth minutes. 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: It was also the first hat trick in Pride history, 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: and per opt to Jack, Banda didn't just bury three, 103 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: she was on target for all six shots she attempted, 104 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: becoming the third player to attempt six or more shots 105 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: with one hundred percent accuracy in an NWSL match. To tennis, 106 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: many of the WTA's top players remained standing in the 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: French Open at stad Roland Garros, but a couple players 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: have seen their tournaments come to a close. World number 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: nine ranked player Emma Navarro got knocked out in straight 110 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: sets by Jessica buzis Manero in the first round, and 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: just a few weeks after picking up her first WTA 112 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: title since twenty twenty one, Naomi Osaka suffered her own 113 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: early defeat. She lost to world number ten Paula Bedosa 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in the first round, and she had a pretty emotional 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: press conference after the match. A reporter Naomi how the 116 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: tough loss would make her stronger, and here's how she responded. 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: I hope you can tell me that I think. I'm 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: not sure. I feel like I learn little things from 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: each match. I think I lost a tiebreaker in Rome, 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: and I didn't lose the tiebreaker here, So I mean 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: I am conscious of things when I'm playing. So maybe 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: the next match I play, I'll learn little. 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: Things from today. 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: And you know something, I really can appreciate when athletes 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: show us how much a loss hurts, because that way 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: we feel even more joy when we get to watch 127 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: them win. Naomi's been on this super public journey back 128 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: to full strength over the last few years, and it's 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: been a constant reminder watching her just how hard what 130 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: these players do is. So we're sending love your way, Naomi. 131 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: You're still a hell of a player and we're rooting 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: for you. Some WNBA news, second year sensation Caitlin Clark 133 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: will miss at least the next two weeks of Indiana 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: games with. 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: The left quad strain. 136 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: The injury announcement came on Monday, and of course sent 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: some folks into a spiral. By all accounts, though the 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: move is more preventative than anything, as Clark had been 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: limited in the preseason with what she called tightness in 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: her left quad. The team didn't officially confirm whether the 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: two instances were related, but Clark said she had a 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: pain after their loss to the Liberty on Saturday, and 143 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: an MRI revealed the injury. Now this is uncharted territory 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: for Clark. 145 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: She never missed a. 146 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Game at Iowa nor in her WNBA career to this point. 147 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: The Athletic published some comments from Fever head coach Stephanie 148 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: White talking about the injury. She said, quote, there's so 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: many things when you think about Caitlin and her not 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: wanting to miss games. Obviously everyone wants to watch her play. 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: But for me, it's maintaining perspective. It's making sure that 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: we address this in a way that doesn't affect the 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: long term, that we take care of it, don't over push, 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: don't overexert, making sure that we take the long game 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: approach to this so we're not having lingering issues throughout 156 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: the course of the season. 157 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: End quote. 158 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Per ESPN's Candor, and the Fever phenom is set to 159 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: be reevaluated on June ninth. That's a bummer for me 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: and Chicago fans as She's said to miss the Fever 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Sky game on June seventh that had been moved to 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: the United Center, and that's part of a real cool 163 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: doubleheader with the opening day of AUSL still gonna make 164 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: it happen, but we all want to see Caitlin in 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: that one to the Diamond. 166 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: The D one College Softball Super Regionals are. 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Over and eight teams advanced to the Women's College World Series. 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: The action gets started tomorrow at twelve pm Eastern with 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: number three Florida taken on number six Texas, followed by 170 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: number two Oklahoma versus number seven Tennessee at two thirty Eastern. 171 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Both those games will be on ESPN Coverage moves over 172 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: to ESPN two at seven pm Eastern for number twelve 173 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: Texas Tech against unranked Ole Miss, and then number nine 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: UCLA at number sixteen Oregon round things out at nine 175 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern. We'll link to the full interactive bracket 176 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in our show notes. Also want to give a shout 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: out to Tennessee's CARLN. Pickens, who reset the record for 178 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: the fastest pitch in college softball history. Now you remember 179 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: we mentioned her back in March when she first broke 180 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: the record. With a seventy eight point two mile per 181 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: hour pitch against Arkansas. Well, Pickens out did herself on Saturday, 182 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: throwing a seventy eight point four mile per hour bullet 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: in the first inning of the Lady Bowls Super Regional 184 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: game against Nebraska. Starting to understand why Pickens has been 185 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: the SEC pitcher of the year the last two seasons. 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: We got to take a quick break. 187 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: When we come back, I chop it up with most 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: acts back in a jiff. Joining us now, she's a 189 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: professional golfer on the LPGA Tour. A graduate of Stanford, 190 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: where she was a four year All American and a 191 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen NCAA team title winner. In twenty eleven, at seventeen, 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: she was the youngest African American golfer to qualify for 193 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: US Women's Open, and was the only Black qualifier in 194 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that tournament. She reached her highest ranking so far in 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, at one hundred and thirty seven in the world. 196 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: She's in her gen z era, but she's never given 197 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: up the peace sign. And it's Mariah Stackhouse. I'm Mariah. 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: Hey, Sarah, you do it. 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks. 200 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Everyone just heard about your start as a golf phenom, 201 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: So I want to go all the way back. 202 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: How'd you get into playing? 203 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: My dad actually got me into playing golf when I 204 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: was younger. So I wanted to go wherever he went. 205 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: So he left the house, I wanted to go with him, 206 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: and so he would often go play golf after work 207 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: on the weekends. So he cut down some clubs for me. 208 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: Got me started when I was about two years old, 209 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: and the rest is kind of history. Started playing tournaments 210 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: at six and just kept it going. 211 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: When you say cut down clubs, like what was he 212 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: using to break adult clubs into the size that you 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: could practice with? 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: You know, I have no idea, But he was an 215 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: architect and he's had a construction company too, so he 216 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: had all the tools. So whatever he used, okay, chop 217 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: it down, I'm not sure, but he cut some real 218 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: clubs and took me with him. 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to imagine my dad trying to do that. 220 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the shop, you're right, it's iron, so you'd 221 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: have to really have something and like keep it. 222 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Safe, like throw something on the end, not stabbing everybody 223 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: when you're trying to learn how. 224 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: To play it too. 225 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: Exactly or like stabbing my own arm slinger, right right right. 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned that back in twenty eleven, you kind of 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: burst onto the scene and you did an interview with 228 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: NPR rejecting the comparisons to Tiger Woods. Was that just 229 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: about the fact that he had won bigger tournaments at 230 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: the age of seventeen than you had yet or was 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: there something else that you didn't like about hearing that comparison. 232 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: You know, it's not that there's anything that I dislike 233 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: about hearing the comparison, you know, at that time, and 234 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: honestly still to the present day, there aren't that many 235 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: black golfers on tour. So for all those of us 236 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 4: who come up that are younger than Tiger, they're always 237 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: going to get that comparison, especially if you've had a 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: successful junior career. But you know, Tiger is one of 239 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: the greatest athletes to ever walk the planet, you know, 240 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: So it's honestly just you know, looking out for myself 241 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: and allowing myself to kind of carve my own lane 242 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: with my own expectations that don't necessarily have to be 243 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: as grand as that is, you know. There, like I said, 244 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: one of the best athletes to off for play. So 245 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: now a little bit of pressure exactly. 246 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, you also said back then, which was all 247 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the way back in twenty eleven, so a long time ago, 248 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: that you hadn't experienced the same race hurdles that Tiger had, 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: nor had you faced gender based hurdles. You're thirty now, 250 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: is that still the case for you? 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: I think, by and large yes, I think I was. 252 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: I was grateful as junior golfer that my dad, especially 253 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: on the golf course, was always around me, always protective, 254 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: and I think he grew up in murder Beeat, South Carolina. 255 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: He definitely did experience racism on the golf course, and 256 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: so he was always protective of me and wanted to 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: make sure that he was there to protect me from 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: anything that might be said or done to me. So 259 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: throughout my junior golf career, I just never had those 260 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: experiences because he was always going to be right there 261 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: making sure that they didn't happen. And then, you know, 262 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: as I got a little bit older, start traveling by myself, 263 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: especially turning pro you know, nothing was ever overt you know, 264 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: are crazy, which was which was a blessing for Shure. 265 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: It would all some microaggressions, like you know, letting players 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: in that might have their badge on their hit, you know, 267 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: but then not one letting my badge count. It's like, no, 268 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 4: we also want to see your idea to get into 269 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 4: the locker room. Little things like that. But you know, 270 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: my dad, they had an affirmation written for me that 271 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: I would say to myself here every day when I 272 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: was young, and part of that was just having pride 273 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: and confidence in myself and being happy to be black 274 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: and proud of that. And so I think that that's 275 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: kind of my internal protection against those sort of things, 276 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: and they never really get me outside of myself and 277 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: outside of my body or make me feel undeserving of 278 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: being in that space. 279 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that, and I love that they had 280 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: you before maybe it even was necessary already saying that 281 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: to yourself and ready for that, Let's talk about the present. 282 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: You're currently sidelined with an injury, which is a bummer. 283 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Tell us about the surgery. 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a pretty like just on a case 285 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: and bicep tendonitis, and I took about six weeks off 286 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: in the off season. At the start, did my PT 287 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: and it just would not get better. So after two 288 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: cortisone injections with no improvement. I reached out to my 289 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: Stanford coach and the Stanford Sports Medicine Network and they 290 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: got me connected with a team here that works with 291 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: a lot of athletes, and so I underwent surgery at 292 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: the very end of March. So it's been almost two 293 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: months now, and I had a bicep toent odisis, which 294 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: is basically going in and cleaning up the damage part 295 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: of my bicep tendon and then retightening it and then 296 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: letting it heal so that I can get back to 297 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: working out and swinging paying free. So it's it's honestly, 298 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: I like the physical side of sports. So the like 299 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: kind of nerd outside of me is enjoyed, like learning 300 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: the process and everything that I'm going through and I'm 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: realizing like pt and like recovery. It's a really cool 302 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: space on the side of not being able to play 303 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: that has really up. Like the US Open qualifiers came 304 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: and went couldn't compete. I'm watching my friends, like, you know, 305 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: they had a new and mogural tournament in Mexico and 306 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: a couple of my buddies LPJ and EPSOM were there 307 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: and I was like, man, you know that would be 308 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: that would be cool to be performing getting a chance 309 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: to play there right now. But I have a great 310 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: team around the agent, sponsors, and they are really pushing 311 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: just patience, take care of yourself, heal because we want 312 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: you to come back the best that you can be. 313 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: So it's been a whirlwind, and I definitely miss traveling 314 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: and playing and honestly just seeing our friends on tour. 315 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: But it's also been nice to be home and spend 316 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: some time with my family, time that I haven't gotten 317 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: to spend in years. So I'm just kind of looking 318 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: at the silver lining of it and saying, if this 319 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: is the situation that I'm in, let's just make the 320 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: most of it. 321 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you, as someone in their forties, 322 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: if you really like diving into pt and understanding how 323 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: your body breaks down, you're in for a beautiful future 324 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of us are are there, whether we 325 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: like on one. 326 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: Are you hoping to be back competing. 327 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: I should be able to make a full swing with 328 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: an iron by the end of June, so that's an 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: after the twelve week mark, I can swing a club 330 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: and if that goes well and it's paying free, I'm 331 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: hoping to build up over the next couple of weeks 332 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: next few weeks, so maybe by the end mid to 333 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: end of July be hitting my driver and if that 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: goes well, just a couple of weeks so strong work 335 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: in the gym and working to get my swing speed 336 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: back up, which would make the go mid August, so 337 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: all things go well, I'm hoping to be back competing there. 338 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: What's the best part about being a pro golfers. 339 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: I feel like there's two answers for that. For me. One, 340 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: it's just competing and playing golf like as a career. 341 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: Every day I wake up and I go to the gym, 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: and I go to practice and I train, and like, 343 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: that's my job is to be as best as I 344 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: can be as great as I can't playing golf, And 345 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: that's pretty cool. It's the game, Like I said, I 346 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: played it since I was two, competitively since I was six. 347 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: It's literally been the dream of my life. So the 348 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: fact that I get to wake up every day and 349 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: do that is a treat. So just competing tournaments and 350 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: the training that goes around it, I love the entire process, 351 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: but also the travel, like traveling around the country, around 352 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: the world, getting to go to all these new places, 353 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: I'm a huge foody, so trying cuisines in different countries 354 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: is great and I feel like when you're there, it's authentic. 355 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: And so those are just the experiences that I get 356 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: to have and the friends that I get to do 357 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: it with makes it great. 358 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, the social part has always been a big thing 359 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: for you. 360 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: I read an interview where you talked about enjoying golf 361 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: in part because you could compete and converse. It wasn't 362 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: just like basketball where you're playing against somebody but you 363 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: can never chat with them because you're midway through, you know, 364 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: defending them or driving the lane or whatever. Do you 365 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: find at the professional level you can still have those 366 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: friendships and really pursue those connections or are people getting 367 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: a little competitive for that at this level? 368 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: I think inside the ropes is definitely a bit more 369 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: competitive professional golf, and rightfully so, right like, every shot 370 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: you hit it it's it's your income, it's your it's 371 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: your earnings that you're working towards and your goals. So 372 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: I would say that for professional golf, inside the ropes 373 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: it's a little bit more serious, but the same thing. 374 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: You make friends with people, and so when you get 375 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: paired with people that you're good buddies with. There is 376 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 4: still that social element that takes place inside the ropes competing, 377 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: but we also get to travel together, and so there 378 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: are times when we'll ruin an airbnb together. Throughout the country, 379 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 4: we'll stay at the same hotels and plan dinners and 380 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: little excursions, so you definitely get that social aspect, and 381 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: I think outside off the course, it's almost even more 382 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: important because you're traveling so long, like you could be 383 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 4: going from homes for four to five weeks, depending on 384 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: how your schedule shakes, and so you definitely need some 385 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: comaraderie and friendship out there so that it doesn't feel 386 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 4: like a lonely career. And so that's something that I 387 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: learned quickly my rookie year, is that you definitely need 388 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: just friendship and companions to hang out with out there. 389 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: And so I've moved forward after my rookie year and 390 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: do all that in place, and so now I genuinely 391 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: have fun when I travel. It's still work, the priority 392 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: is still showing up to the golf course competing and practicing, 393 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: but on the relaxed moments, evenings, off days, then we 394 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: hang out and we go have fun and explore the 395 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: cities that we're in. 396 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So travel and potential loneliness certainly some drawbacks. 397 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: What do you think is the hardest part of being 398 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: a pro golfer? 399 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: Hands down, Like, there's just things you miss right there 400 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 4: are you know, milestones and emits and things that will 401 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: happen in your friends' lives that you might not be 402 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 4: able to be there for. And I think that that's 403 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: the toughest part. But you have to wake up every 404 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: day and say you know this. You know, as an athlete, 405 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: your career is not your whole life. Like at a 406 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: certain point, your body will tell you it's time to 407 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: bow out. And so as long as you're passionate about 408 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: it and love it, I tell myself, you know, it's 409 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: just a sacrifice that has to be made right now 410 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: for you to chase your dreams. And as long as 411 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: you're happy chasing those dreams and the sacrifice is worth it. 412 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: So it's tough. It's tough to miss those things sometimes 413 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: of my friends and family, they love and support me, 414 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 4: and they know my dreams and my goals and they're 415 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: happy to support And I always understanding of the things 416 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 4: that I might not be able to make. 417 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's so hard because usually athletes 418 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: are their athletes are entire lives, and it's not up 419 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: until the moment that they're done that they're out in 420 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: the real world and they really recognize, like, oh man, 421 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: how good did I have it? I'm out on a 422 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: golf course for my job every day, like in the 423 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: sun with my friends competing, playing a game. And then 424 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: you go try to have like a desk job and 425 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, and like you it's not that 426 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: you don't already appreciate it, but you maybe would appreciate 427 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: it even more if you'd ever had to do a 428 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: couple of years of just everyday garbage before you get 429 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: to go back and golf again and real ye, what 430 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: a joy it is to just be outside work. And 431 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, one of the challenges is certainly the cost 432 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: and like competing to make a living, which is so 433 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: different than here's your salary for the year, and you 434 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: know that it's coming in. 435 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: Of course, you got to work hard, but you know. 436 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: In a recent episode of Welcome to the Party, Tesha Allen, 437 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: who's on our iheartwomen's sports network, former pro golfer, was 438 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: talking to another former pro in Cheyenne. Woods and Chyenne 439 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: shared the cost of playing from paying for travel, hotels, 440 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: entry fee, caddy fee, and I don't think I really 441 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: realized how much is on the golfer to cover. So 442 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: can you kind of share the realities of being a 443 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: player on the LPGA tour and what you're responsible for. 444 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, playing on tour, that's definitely a huge part of it, 445 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: and I think, honestly, oftentimes it might be a barrier 446 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 4: for some Like I know that I have friends that 447 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: have felt like I've had to bow out of the 448 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: tour or go on to the next part of my 449 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: career because I didn't get the success I needed fast 450 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: enough to sustain the cost of playing on tour, you know, 451 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: Like you said, caddie is probably somewhere between fifteen hundred 452 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: to two thousand a week. Lodging, you know, is probably 453 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: somewhere between eight to thirteen hundred, depending on the venue 454 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 4: that you're at. We have an entry fee, which for 455 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: LPG I think they're two hundred. EPSEN, which is the 456 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: Mini tour, I think it's four hundred. You know, air travel, 457 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: rental cars which have also gotten really expensive in the 458 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 4: last few years too, So you have those costs that 459 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: add up every single week, and then you have dining 460 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: on tour where you have to have to you have 461 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: to manage your dinner, your snacks, and make sure that 462 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: you're fuel so it can Honestly, a week on tour 463 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: can depending can ring somewhere between twenty five hundred to 464 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 4: five thousand. It just depends on how it shakes out. 465 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: And I mean that's a lot to manage every single week, 466 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: week in and week out. And I'm really grateful that 467 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: I have sponsors that have been, you know, great and 468 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 4: supportive of me for all the years, especially now, Like 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 4: I think about even on the recovery side, right I'm 470 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: not playing, I'm not competing right now, so I'm not 471 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: making money on the course, but i also have expenses 472 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: in my PT, like I'm going to PT, I'm doing 473 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to the trainer, I'm doing various workouts just 474 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: get back and shape. That's also a lot like weekend 475 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: and week out for me here right now at home. 476 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: So having that support makes me feel free and able 477 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 4: to do that without like financial burden and stress is huge. 478 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: But I mean it's just it's crazy. There's there's nothing 479 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: that we have that's just given to us, and so well, 480 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: no athlete has anything given to us. But when you're 481 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: not on a team, everything is out of pocket for you. 482 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 4: And it's actually an interesting side to that is when 483 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: I realized that I needed surgery, I had to reach 484 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: out to my Stanford network. Another huge part of that 485 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 4: is you're not on a team, you don't have a 486 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: dedicated doctor and medical staff right at home. So I 487 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: needed to figure out who I needed to see in 488 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: Atlanta to get me through this. And LPGIT were based everywhere, 489 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 4: and so there might be a network of doctors, but 490 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: most of the stuff for the tours in Florida, I 491 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: need to be at home during doing my PT So 492 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: I had to go through outside sources to find someone 493 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: here in Atlanta to help me. Whereas if I were 494 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: you know, Atlanta Dream or you know, a team here Braced, 495 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 4: they have a medical team dedicated to the team right 496 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 4: then and there to take care of every injury and 497 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: thing that pops up. So it's like all the things 498 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: that you think come up as an athlete, we navigated 499 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: on our own, which is really something. 500 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: So was your medical coverage through the LPGA. 501 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: Actually, the LPGA just launched medical coverage for US, I 502 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 4: think towards the end of last season, so this will 503 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: be the first fool season with it on tour, and 504 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: with like my injuries and stuff with the pastical be yeers, 505 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 4: I don't have full status right now, so I've been 506 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: able to take advantage of that. But that was a 507 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 4: huge announcement for us as players last year because I 508 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: think that's something that people have really been wanting and 509 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: so they came through with that and it's been fantastic. 510 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: I've heard that some players as soon as they got 511 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 4: it went and did some reproductive stuff, freezing their eggs 512 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 4: and things like that, which I think is just fantastic. 513 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: You know, to have that ability as a player, you 514 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: don't know how long your career is going to go, 515 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 4: so you might want to, you know, have those kind 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: of options available to you. So pretty cool that they've 517 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: gotten met through for us. 518 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: You know. 519 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty three, the PGA announced it would 520 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: start loaning mail players money if they were new to 521 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: the tour to cover uprount costs like five hundred thousand dollars, 522 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: and then players could return the money as they won 523 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: prize money. Do you know if the LPGA has ever 524 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: considered adding something similar to the women's side. 525 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 4: I don't know, as there's conversations about that in effect, 526 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: but I do know that there have been both LPGA 527 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: and a few sponsors for certain tournaments have started to 528 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: offer stipends for certain events, and so that could be 529 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: like a fifteen hundred or two thousand dollars stipend to 530 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 4: offset costs. I know most of the majors do it now, 531 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: So if you compete in the major I think for 532 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: most of them, you earn two thousand dollars for simply 533 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: having a spot in the championship, which is great, and 534 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: so a few regular season events have taken that stance 535 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: as well. So I think the influence of what the 536 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: PGA Tour is doing is solely trickling in. And I 537 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 4: think that the LPGA is trying to do the best 538 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: with the with the financial resources that we have available 539 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: to figure out ways to start to assist players and 540 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: offset some of those costs. 541 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: So players are making money off of obviously sponsors and 542 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: good finishes. Does it depend on the tournament how far 543 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: down people make money. 544 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: The amount that you make that week is dependent on 545 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 4: your performance entirely, So most some tournaments are sixty some 546 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 4: sixty five and ties. But wherever you are on the 547 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: cut after the first two days of the event, only 548 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 4: the people that makes the cut are going to go 549 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: on and have an opportunity to earn and so then 550 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: depending on the perse size of that influence is payout. 551 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 4: So you have some two million dollar per to we 552 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: need two million, five hundred thousand, three million, et cetera. 553 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: So the bigger the purse, the bigger opportunity you have 554 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: to make a good a good amount at the end 555 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: of that week. But if you miss the cut, you 556 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: just missed the cut and you have your expenses for 557 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 4: the week, but you get another chance to go and 558 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: make it back the next week. 559 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I saw you went down to see some unrivaled action 560 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: in Miami. Are there things that you would like to 561 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: see golf borrow from other women's pro sports leagues, whether 562 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: that's unrivaled or the w NBA and WSL, anything you 563 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: see that you're like, oh, I wish we did that. 564 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think following, just like social and branding for 565 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: the NWSL and WNBA is incredible and I'd love to 566 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: see I mean, golf is it's a trickier sport because 567 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: there's no team aspect to it, and so you're asking, 568 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: you know, to bring out personalities and get stories from 569 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: players who might be a little bit shy and we 570 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: don't have that buffer of like a team around them 571 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: to help bring you out of the shell. But I 572 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: would love to see our tour figure out a few 573 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: ways to showcase our players and our personalities and our 574 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: stories a little bit more, and you know, start engaging 575 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: in trends online that are popular, etc. I just I 576 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: think that those those organizations do a great job of 577 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: branding and showcasing who the players are, and that's how 578 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 4: you build a following. And so I understand, like there's 579 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: no team and it so you have to figure out 580 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: a different way to go about doing that. But I 581 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: do believe that it can be done and it would 582 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: be great for us. I think almost even more important 583 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: considering it's not a team sport and it's an individual sport. 584 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: So the more that you can get out about who 585 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: players are, show their humors, show the things they care about, 586 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: man trusted, you start to bring more people in. And 587 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: I think in a women's individual sport it's almost even 588 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: more important because you don't have that immediate market behind them. 589 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: So speaking of things that you're interested in and people 590 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: getting to know your personality, I'm so you get asked 591 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: all the time about being a black golfer and all 592 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: the other stuff, But there's things you'd rather talk about. 593 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: There's things you'd hope that interviewers would ask you. So 594 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about? What do you 595 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: wish folks would ask you about? 596 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: You know, the questions are pretty much pretty much okay, 597 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: So I don't know if I have a question about 598 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: that offer it. I will say that I love to 599 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: like you bringing in other women's sports organizations into this conversation. 600 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: Like I'm a huge on sports fan, love soccer, love basketball, 601 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: and so I think it'd be cool to sometimes, you know, 602 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: have a little bit of a crossover and talk about 603 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: the ways that other women's sports and their stories and 604 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: athletes inspire us. 605 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 606 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: No, I mean I love that, And I think if 607 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: I were on the LPGA tour, I would want to 608 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: like get involved with the other leagues and do more 609 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: collabse and bring those players out to the course and 610 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: show them what you do and then maybe you know, 611 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: go go check out a dream game and take some 612 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: shots and all that other stuff. I think one of 613 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: the ways to really involve female golfers in the rest 614 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: of the women's sports kind of industrial complex that's blowing 615 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: up is to have those crossover events where they show 616 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: up in the places people already are and then you 617 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: try to pull them over to your sport into what 618 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: you do. Are there athletes and women's sports that you'd 619 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: love to take out on the course or see in 620 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: a pro am? 621 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: Definitely? So obviously I have a season tickets for Atlanta 622 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: Dream here. It's a huge dream fan. I know that 623 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: Alicia Gay and Ryan Howard play golf, so I think 624 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: that that would be a really cool, you know thing 625 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: to maybe if we had, you know, a tournament or 626 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: a major or something comes through Atlanta, like try to 627 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: get them out to the pro am, which I think 628 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: they both love to do, you know, and just different 629 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: markets that we go to a lot of the women's 630 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: soccer and basketball, a few of them actually play golf, 631 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: you know, so just trying to like maybe pull them 632 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: into our pro ams. I know that the LPGA did that. 633 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: I think last fall that Kate and Clark paired up 634 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: with Nellie Korda, and I'm like, you know, you get 635 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: some of the best in both sports to be playing together, Like, 636 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: that's how you do it, That's how you generate a 637 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: conversation and kind of get golf in there with the 638 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: conversation and the rest of women's sports. And then I 639 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 4: think when something like that happens, it also helps our 640 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 4: brand at Nelly Corda. Last year had one of the 641 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: best seasons of any women athlete. 642 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: That's in the world. 643 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: But when it was time to have those conversations about 644 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: Athlete of the Year, I didn't hear her name brought up. 645 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: And I think that that's just a matter of golf 646 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: not being in the conversation with the other athletes as much, 647 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: because her name definitely deserved to be in there, because 648 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: what she did was unspeakable. Five tournaments and roll multiple majors, 649 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: and it's like, how can we get people talking about 650 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: women's golf in the same way. 651 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Speaking of names, most Stacks we got most Stacks, Berdies, 652 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: is your Instagram name? Is that just a play on 653 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: words or is that an alter ego for you? 654 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: No, it's a little bit of a player on words. 655 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: So Moe was one of my nicknames and we just 656 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: shartened it Stacks. But I remember my brother and I 657 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: actually trying to come up with a Twitter handle for me, 658 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 4: and we were just like, you know what, you play golf, 659 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: you make a lot of birdies, so let's call you 660 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: most Stacks Birdie. So basically most Stack and Birdie's on 661 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: the course. 662 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I like it. 663 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: I like it for the name, but I also think 664 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: most Acts would just be a cool nickname and a 665 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: cool altery. 666 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah it is. 667 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: That is my nicknames my friends. 668 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 669 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, you know, you could do a whole 670 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: merch line. I don't know, there's something there's Most Acts 671 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: sounds like someone who would put together those collabs we 672 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: were talking about and find a way to get yourself 673 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: into the other spaces. All right, last question, I want 674 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: to hear about Underrated Golf Tour. What is it and 675 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: what's your involvement in it? 676 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: Yes, so under Golf Tour is Steph Curry's uh tour. 677 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: He has it for basketball as well, but Steph really 678 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: loves golf and it is passionate about providing opportunities to 679 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: our youth, to our junior golfers and getting them on 680 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: on you know, tab of this courses. Learning what it 681 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 4: is like to play a tour structure over the summer 682 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 4: owned points which then qualify you for some other Junior 683 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: Gloss events. So it's really about going into the kids, 684 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: getting them on first class golf courses with storied histories, 685 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: and giving them a chance to compete and grow in 686 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: the game of golf. And so I love it. KPMG 687 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: one of my sponsors, and I I had the opportunity 688 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: to get to know Steph his underrated team and get 689 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: involved with supporting his event and then supporting the kids, 690 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: and it's been fantastic. My favorite part of what we 691 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: do is at the Championship in September, once the golf 692 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: has concluded. The next day, we have basically a leadership 693 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: academy set up for the young players and so their 694 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: parents have some informationals. We have some informationals. I'll do sessions, 695 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 4: My dad will come up and do a session with 696 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 4: some of the parents. We have college recruiters, people in 697 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: business who can mentor and offer some guidance for the 698 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: young golfers. So it's really investing in them as young 699 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 4: athletes but also people, and it's been great. Like these kids, 700 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: they love to compete, they're great golf, and I just 701 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: feel fortunate to get to play a role in helping 702 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: them continue to grow and improve their games, and, like 703 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 4: I said, learn a tour system. Navigating the junior golf world, 704 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: it can be challenging for parents who didn't grow up 705 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: playing a game of golf themselves and might need some 706 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: guidance on how best to move their juniors through it. 707 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: So we provide that guidance to both the juniors and 708 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: to their parents, and our goal is to get them 709 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 4: to the best school if possible. And if they go 710 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: on and decide that they want to pursue a career 711 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: as professional golfers, then we hope that we've helped invest 712 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: and give them the tools to chase that dream. 713 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: I love that it's so important. 714 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: It's really like it's much more complicated than a lot 715 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: of other sports to get into, to be able to 716 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: afford to try it and to find out if you're 717 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: great at it, and then where do you go if 718 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: you do find that you have a calling for it. 719 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: So that's really. 720 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Cool, Mariah, so great to talk to you. Heal fast. 721 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: I guess enjoy the PT if that's what you're into, 722 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: and we look forward to see you back out. 723 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: On the link soon. 724 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Sarah, thanks for having me. 725 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: We have to take another break when we come back. 726 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: One former golfer goes all in on changing the game. 727 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: Welcome back, slics. 728 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to 729 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: get in the game every day too, So here's our 730 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: good game. 731 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: Play of the day Watch Little Golf. 732 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Mark your calendars and tune into the US Open starting 733 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve pm Eastern. 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From 755 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: dresses to pants and skirts and t's that say, I'm 756 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: not a player, I just golf a lot. 757 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: She's trying to make golf. 758 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: A little cooler, younger, and edgier, and we're here for it. 759 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: Congrats Tisha. Now it's your turn slices, rate and review. 760 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow. Good game, Mariah, Good game, Minnesota, 761 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: Frost UNC Lacrosse and got THEMFC you biceps tendonitis. A 762 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports 763 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You 764 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: could find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 765 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network, 766 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive 767 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rutterer. 768 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch and 769 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: Gianna Palmer. Our associate producer is Lucy Jones and I'm 770 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: Your Host Sarah Spain