1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join The Conversation Live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. 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Hey, I'm just going through the 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: list as I'm getting ready for air. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Do we want to talk. 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: About new Chevy Vans? Rumor is there's a stop sale 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: on new Chevrolet Vans. It got me to thinking about what. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: You can't buy a Chevy van. That can't be true. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: And I have looked. There are some available, but I 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: think what the order is in reference to, Well, let 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: me tell you how the whole thing started. I have 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: a customer who has a twenty sixteen full sized Chevy 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: van with bench seats with the rows of seats. 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 4: You know. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: He uses it to take the Scouts camping and you know, 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: cross country endeavors and all that. And he went to 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: purchase a new one to replace it, and he was 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: told that they're on stop sale. He can't he's not 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: allowed to buy a new van. Well, he would be. 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: He'd have to buy six, is the story he was told. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: And he went to several dealerships. So I don't think 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: this is a dealership guy that doesn't know what he's 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: talking about. He went to three different dealerships in North 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Jersey and he all told him the same thing. And 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a New Jersey thing. 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious if this is a New Jersey thing or 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: if this is a nationwide thing. You have to be 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: you have to be a you have to be a 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: fleet service, or you have to be ready to buy 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: six vans. In order to buy one. Huh. I never 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: heard of a company having something to sell it. They 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: won't sell you. It doesn't make any sense. And it 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: made me realize how special vans are. Just as a 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: point of commentary, I think back to when Ford and 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: I'd like to know who the genius was at Ford 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: that got rid of the Econoline. How many Ford Aconoline 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: vans did they make? You know, just from a perspective 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: of you know, joke Joe Q citizen here, I saw 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: condoline vans. My god, they were not thousands of them 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: on the road, right, millions? And then one day we're 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: not making vans anymore because they don't fit the needs 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: of what the public wants. The marketing department got involved. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: That's how you knew you were in trouble. So what 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: did Ford come out with? They come out with those 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: trans stars, which is and then you've got a smaller version, 60 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: a medium sized version of a four sized version. So 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: we didn't like the econo line, which was tried and 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: true in my mind, right, the molds were there, the 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: dyes were made, the assembly line could build them. Everything 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: was there. We retooled and we created a whole new 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: series of Ford van, which, by the way, is a 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: royal pain in the neck to service. Go stop and 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: take a look underneath one of those. I want to 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: know who's going to service the transmission on some of 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: those the way they're laid out strictly a fluid exchange process, 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: because you can't get the pan down on a lot 71 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: of them. And I wonder they see Chrysler got it right, 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Chrysler or Ram right the Ram vans, which is also 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: the same thing in a Mercedes or a Dodge, depending 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: upon what you were talking about. They started to produce 75 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: more vans and they're still producing vans. Matter of fact, 76 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: they've made you know, if you look at some of 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: the older Amazon trucks which are now gone because Amazon 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: went to mostly an electric fleet, which is another folly, 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: and they created the vans that you can stand up in. 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: They have headroom. I wonder who thinks of these things. 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: It can't be anybody, I got to say, it can't 82 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: be anybody that really has their pulse on what's going 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: on there. I don't know what data they're looking at, 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: because everybody I talk to wants to buy a van 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: that they can't buy, and you know, it's like a 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: huge gap in the market. Think of all the plumbers 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: and carpenters and contractors and all the guys that used 88 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: to have vans and now they're in pickup trucks with 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: beds and caps, which I guess maybe that drives the 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: pickup truck market. But then who's pickup truck do you 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: tell them to you know, who's pickup truck do you 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: tell them to buy? Because I had that conversation with 93 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: someone just this morning. You can't buy a GM pickup 94 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: truck with a six two because the crank shaft falls apart. 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: The five threes, in my opinion, are still problematic with 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: the active fuel management. The typical Ford V eight. Yeah 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: it'll go a bucket a quarter buck and a half, 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: but you know, be amazed when it does, and you've 99 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: got to really do a lot of good oil changes 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: in between maintenance counts. But that ten speed transmission in 101 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: the Ford trucks is still a problem. You could buy 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: a Dodge I like. I like the Dodge trucks. You know, 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: with them, you know right away either the engine fails 104 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: within the first five hundred miles or it lasts till 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: one hundred, so and you you do have a crystal clear. 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: I always wondered, how come Chrysler, you know, Chrysler Ram. 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: To me, they roll the same thing. You ever noticed 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: the backup camera on one of those, if you've ever 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: had the option to sit in one. The only thing 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: better than a RAM pickup camera. You know what is 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: because it is crystal clear, is a Hyundai Hyundai. I'll 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: tell you what you want to see some stunning electronics 113 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: go sitting in a late model Hyundai. 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 4: Wow. 115 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: You know, of course, I don't know if the car 116 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: lasts more than six years, but you know, you've got 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: a great little TV screen you can watch in the 118 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: meantime if you're stuck on the side of the road. 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we should do. Set it up with 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: bluetooth so you can actually watch TV while you're waiting 121 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: for the tow truck to come pick you up. On 122 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: some of these cars, I don't know, just I'm in 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: a weird mood today. I just just just casual observations. 124 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot this week. I've seen Dave with 125 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: his twenty sixteen Chevy Van. He said, go through it. 126 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: Do what you got to do. Tires, brakes, suspension, fluids, filters, belts, hoses, 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: tune up parts. That's another story. We did plugs and wires. 128 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: The truck's got one hundred and three thousand miles on it, 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: and when we started taking the ignition coils, well, we 130 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: didn't take the coils off. We took the wires off. 131 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: Because we were doing plugs and wires. Some of the 132 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: coils you could see they were starting to arc, they 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: had overheated, they were discoloring. So this truck is going 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: to make two runs cross country NonStop and then one 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: up into Canada. So he's going to put about twenty 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: five thousand miles on it over the next I don't know, 137 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: three months from the sounds of it. So put coils 138 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: in it. I found original GM coils, really ohe coils, 139 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: because that's what he wanted. And I was able to 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: do it. And the invoice comes in and I look 141 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: at the invoice. Yep, there they are real GM coils. 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: That's the part number. Yep, that's it discontinued, not eligible 143 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: for return. Huh, an eight year old vehicle. We can't 144 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: the manufacturer stopped making ignition coils. Huh. You see that's 145 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: the other problem with cars today. They're making parts disappear 146 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure why. Well I know why. You know, 147 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: because marketing is involved and they're trying to dictate and 148 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: tell us what we want to drive. It would really 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: be amazing if somebody in marketing actually listened to the 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: motoring public and said, hey, what do you want, let's 151 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: build that right, if it was within reason. There's a 152 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: great article in the Wall Street Journal this week June twentieth, 153 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: how the high costs of them have ended America's love 154 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: affair with cars. It's by Dan Neil, and I encourage 155 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: you to log on online or get a copy of 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: the Journal, it's in the June twentieth edition and start 157 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: to read this. And he is absolutely spot on, and 158 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: he talks about how the high costs of automobiles has 159 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: caused you to and I understand it, fall out of 160 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: love with the automobile. And that's true. It used to 161 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: be on Saturdays you would see people outside polishing their 162 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: bumpers and washing their cars and waxing and taking proper care. 163 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 2: Now it's one of two things. It's either a money 164 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: mess that nobody wants to look at or touch, or 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: they're taking it to the car wash for forty two 166 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: dollars and they're getting it washed because they don't have 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: the time, the money, or the inclination. I always wonder 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: about those people that get their car washed for forty bucks, 169 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: because then you'll also see them, you know, exercising or 170 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: jogging or running or riding a bike or you know, 171 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: washing cars is like exercise. That might do it. But 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm not thinking clearly. Of course, 173 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: in this article that Dan Neil wrote about how high 174 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: costs of ended America's love affair with cars in the end, 175 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: he points out that the high cost of the internal 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: combustion engine is going to drive us more towards electric vehicles. 177 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: You knew I was going to work that into this conversation. Yeah, 178 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: And I think Dan missed the mark there. I do 179 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: because I think he's incorrect. I don't think it's going 180 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: to do it, because as much as we're in love 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: with eves, the physics come into it, the dynamics come 182 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: into it. You just can't make enough electricity in this 183 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: day and age and probably for the next foreseeable ten 184 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: to fifteen years at best. And that's not Ron's rules. 185 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: That's just what I'm reading, and that's what the laws 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: of physics, dictate and what everybody else is saying. So 187 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: fall in love with your car. Take a look at it. 188 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: Do you really enjoy it? I challenge you. If you don't, 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: maybe you replace it if you can, or find something else. 190 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Dave's in love with his van. You better be in 191 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: love with his van. He put eleven grand in it 192 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: and because he can't buy another one, and it goes 193 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: round and round. What a crazy industry, What a crazy industry? 194 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: Ronin Indy in the car. If you're still listening eight 196 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, I'll 197 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: be back right after this, will you. And to just 198 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: follow up on that opening commentary, Tom writes, and from 199 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: New York he says, you know, Ron, this may have 200 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: something to do with a recall unimproperly. Well did head 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: restraints and there's a massive recall on the vans. Yes, no, 202 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: I'm aware of that, Tom, and I agree one hundred 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: percent if that's the cause. But he went to three 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: dealerships and they all told him the same thing. And 205 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: they're three competitive dealerships. It's not like they're all part 206 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: of the same group. So you wonder what the real 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: story is because it you know, Chevrolet, you know that's 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: to me, that's still mom apple Pie and America. I 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: just how can we not make it sell Chevy Vans anymore? 210 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me. But you know, 211 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: these things happen. Let's go to Billy in Colorado. Return Bill, 212 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back, sir. Before you start with today's problem. Had 213 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: you make out with the noise in the other car? 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I thought it sounded like a VBT. The 215 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: belt engines do get that on cold start. Well, this 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 5: one has it all the time, and I determined that 217 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 5: to fix it would require pull in the head apart, 218 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: and car wasn't worth it. So she's just gonna live 219 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: with it. 220 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it sounds better, right Do you 221 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: think it was? Do you think it was something sticky stuck? 222 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? So there's a pin that that locks the the VVT. 223 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Gears in place, right, yeah? 224 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that that pin gets sticky, And I was 225 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 5: hoping that it was just a matter of low old pressure. 226 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: But I pulled out the screen and it was clean. 227 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 5: So oil is good. 228 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: Pin is bad. 229 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: So if you want to try a science project before 230 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: we go onto the other thing, you're going about today, 231 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: Go out to the hot Shot, go out to the 232 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Hotshot Secret website. And I only say this because I've 233 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: had positive experience with this, very positive experience. My little 234 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Ranger had a valve tech tic tap in it for 235 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: the sheese the longest time, and everything I tried, nothing 236 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: really got rid of it. I use stition eliminator. All right, 237 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Hotshot Secret stition eliminator. You know what, it's gone. My 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: noise is gone. The lifter finally pumped up. It got 239 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: rid of all the schmutz, being the technical term that 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: it is. And I always think a stiiction is that 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: it's that stuff in the engine that you can't see. 242 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: So even if it looks clean, you know it did 243 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: the job for me, so it might work for you. You 244 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: know you might want to try that. 245 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 246 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, Well sometimes I get it right. How 247 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: can I help you today? Let's sef I can get 248 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: it right to in a row? What do you got. 249 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: Working on two Toyota Tacoma three point four leader with 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: some EVAP codes. Okay, it's got a four to four 251 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 5: one for incorrect purge flow and a four to four 252 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: six for vent control circuit. Right, So I uh, the 253 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: purge valve tested good, the pressure sensor tested good. H 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 5: the the other two vacuum switching valves, the cancer closed 255 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: valve that goes to the air box, and the I 256 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 5: guess the canister vent valve when I actually I can 257 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: hear them, but I haven't gotten to the point of 258 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 5: disconnecting the hoses to verify flow. Right when I smoked it, 259 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: the smoke came out of the two little vent holes 260 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: at the top of the fill tube just inside the fender. Okay, 261 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: And when I when I pulled the gas cap, I 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 5: didn't get anything out of there, so I was thinking 263 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: it was a stuck closed vent valve. But he doesn't 264 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: have any problems filling, so I don't know. 265 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,119 Speaker 2: So let's back up a second now. The two the solenoids, 266 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: and I'm used to I'm used in New Jersey because 267 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right up front. In New Jersey, 268 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,119 Speaker 2: this becomes smoke it plug the vent the system holds integrity, 269 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: and we start to look at the valves, the solenoids 270 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: that are attached to the canister, and since we can't 271 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: get them off because they're rotted and rusted to the 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: canister itself, it usually becomes a couple other things we check, 273 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: but it usually becomes a case of will verify solenoid functionality, 274 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: and then we throw the canister away, which throws away 275 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: the solenoids, which solves the problem. It doesn't become this 276 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: this lung of a process. So my first question is 277 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: in Colorado, if we prove it's one of the solenoids 278 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: on the canister as being bad, can you can you 279 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: physically change it? 280 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 7: Yeah? 281 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: I think so, I'll do that here. 282 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Jeez, I'm want to move to Colorado. It's got to 283 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: be easier. So you know this is all solenoids and 284 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: and valving. Right. You know the VSV which is the 285 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: pressure sensor on the canister, You know that's normally closed. 286 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: When you energize it, it should open. Did it do that? 287 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: I hear it. But I have not disconnected the hoses 288 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: to check flow. 289 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's next because and keep in mind that 290 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: valve is known to stick. The VSV is known to stick, 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: So cycling at once may not do it. You may 292 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: have to sit there and bump up, up, up, up, 293 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: up up up up and try and catch it in 294 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: the act. All right, that that out is known to stick, 295 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: it would not be uncommon. All right, if if, if 296 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: that works, all right, you know the next thing we're 297 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: gonna do is we're gonna smoke it. But you smoke 298 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: it and you don't get a leak, you can you 299 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: can explain why you've got smoke coming up the tube, 300 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: right because you haven't. Do you have the vent plugged 301 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: back at the canister? I don't, Okay, So you know 302 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: you've got to You've got to plug the vent right 303 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: and then smoke it again. You got to remember too. 304 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: Plug the event that goes from from uh, from what 305 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: to what? 306 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, smoke it. There's gonna be a big tube on 307 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: the canister, and smoke's gonna come out of it, right, 308 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: Stick your finger in the stick your finger in the 309 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: hole while you're smoking it. 310 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: Okay, you're with me, not entirely, all. 311 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: Right, when you're under there, you'll see it. The other 312 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: thing you should get in the habit of doing, all right, 313 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: And it may not have anything to do with this repair. 314 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: Does your scan tool display FTP? It does, right, So 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: while you're smoking it, watch the FTP. If the system 316 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: is closed, what's the FTP going to do? It's gonna 317 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: change right, Usually it's usually it's going to you'll see 318 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: a voltage difference, all right. I don't want to say 319 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: if it's going to go up or down because I 320 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: still look because I still see some cars do opposite. So, 321 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: but we're going to see a state of change. So 322 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: the first thing I always do with an EVAPP is 323 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: I will look at FTP. I'll look at a couple 324 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: of things, but I'll look at FTP. Keon, engine off, 325 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: and then I'll open the gas door, take the cap off. 326 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: You know, are we really at atmosphere? Yes? All right, 327 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: to make sure that the tank's not in a vacuum state. 328 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: And then I will smoke it. And as i'm smoking it, 329 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: i'll plug the vent. I should build pressure in the system. Now, 330 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: it's not going to be a whole lot of change 331 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: in terms of pressure. A smoke machine puts out a pound, 332 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: not even right, but it will have a drastic display 333 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: on the FTP. I just want to make sure the 334 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: FTP moves because I've caught a couple of cars. Because 335 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: everything you're telling me is it's not seeing a purge event, 336 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: And how does it know? How does it know it's purging? 337 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: It's seeing a change pressure change, right, It's it's seeing 338 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: a pressure change. So if you had a bad FTP, 339 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: how would you know? And it may not set a 340 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: code depending upon the strategy of the vehicle. So go 341 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: do those tests. Call me back next week. I'll be glad. 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it all right, Billy, good luck to 343 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: you and stay keep me posted. I'm running Indie in 344 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: the car. Doctor. We're back right after this. Let's let's 345 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: go over to John Oh six four runner. John, how 346 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: can I help you run an Indie in the card doctor? 347 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: At your service? 348 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: Well, I got a two thousand and six four Runner 349 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 3: H four about four with a V eight engine. At 350 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: it's got one hundred and forty thousand miles on it. 351 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: Just broken out, Yeah, just broken in, so right. 352 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: Uh, it's got a sealed transmission and the transmission flu 353 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: has never been changed. 354 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 355 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: Amco only uses synthetic transmission fluid. And I'm a little 356 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: bit larry about putting synthetic and therefore finding leaks that 357 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: weren't there before. I want to get your opinion on 358 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 3: what to do to change the fluid. 359 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if the synthetic is going to produce 360 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: a leak that isn't there, or help promote or find one. 361 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: As you say, I'd really have to study that. I 362 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: never really that's not on the top list of why 363 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: I would or would not use a synthetic. I would 364 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: like to use something that meets Toyota spec. Is the 365 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: first question. I've got. Their first commentary, I've got that 366 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: should be a that should be a WS Toyota fluid 367 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: in six if I'm not mistaken, and as long as 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: it meets WS spec, I'm okay with it. Now that 369 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: being said, you know, the quick conversation about changing trans 370 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: fluid that's never been changed has to really be centered 371 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: around the following. You have to be prepared for. Are 372 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: you going to create an issue? And let me be 373 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: right up front with you, John, if it were me 374 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: I changed the fluid, I want to know, all right, 375 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: And I think if I stopped to think about it 376 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: over the years, for all, the genus fluid is really dirty. 377 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: G I'm going to create a problem. Question mark vehicle 378 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: transmissions that I've done. I think in ten cases nine 379 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: out of ten times we won. And that one that 380 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: one that we didn't win, the trans was really marginal. 381 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: It was super high mileage, super dirty fluid. All right. 382 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: The issue with part of the issue with changing trans 383 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: fluid that's never been changed is it's not magic. What 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: happens is transmission fluid, by design and intention, is actually 385 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: a very high detergent, very very harsh scrubbing fluid. All right, 386 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: if you ever, you know, we go back to the 387 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: old days when you know, God was young and we 388 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: had carburetors. We would always rebuild engines in the shop, 389 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: and we always washed cylinder walls. One of the first 390 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: steps in scrubbing cylinder walls when we when we'd hone 391 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: them in the shop and we you know, did pistons 392 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: and rings in the house, we would always wash the 393 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: cylinder walls with trans fluid because it was such a 394 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: it was such a high detergent fluid. You'd scrub the 395 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: walls and you know, the rag would the white rag 396 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: would come out black and you would do that until 397 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: it was clean, and then you'd soap in water and 398 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: clean it up. And you know, now have transfluids change, Yeah, 399 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: I bet they have. I don't know. I don't know 400 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: if that's necessarily a valid statement. I but I always 401 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: had that in the back of my mind because every 402 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: trans guy I ever talked to will always explain to me. 403 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: They'll say, you know, transfluids is scrubbing fluid, and I think, 404 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: well that must be because it's it's a high detergent 405 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: type of fluid. That makes sense to me. And the 406 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: concern is that an older unit such as yours one 407 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand miles fluid gets varnishy, right, it 408 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: builds up and it gets it starts to particulate, you know, 409 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: you get little, you get the crunchies, right, Not to 410 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: be gross, but it's kind of like icenot right, it 411 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: sort of breaks up and hard in the corner of 412 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: your eye there right, Well, at some mychroscopic level, Now, 413 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: how does the transmission work. It's hydraulic pressure. We're pushing 414 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: fluid under high pressure through very tiny ports moller than 415 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: the eye of a needle in some cases. So if 416 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: we put a clean fluid in there and it breaks 417 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: apart to particulate, what do you think happens? Right? It 418 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: goes where it's not supposed to. So you want to 419 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: make sure A you're doing it properly and B you're 420 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: using correct fluid. What I would encourage you to do, 421 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: because is AMCO going to just do a drain and filler. 422 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: Are they going to do an exchange a flush? Well, 423 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't like the word flush flush, the notes pressure. 424 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: I want to see an exchange. Do this all right? 425 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Go out to bgfind ashop dot com, bgfind ashop dot 426 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: com BG. You know, I always think of them as 427 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: BG fuel Services, but it's actually BG Fluid Services. They 428 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: have a nationwide network of shops and if you go 429 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: to bgfind ashop dot com, you will find a shop 430 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: in your area that has a BG trans fluid exchange machine. 431 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: It's sort of a soft gentle It's kind of like 432 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 2: a massage, right, you know, you can you can go 433 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: get a nice gentle massage and your back loosen up 434 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: and things will flow nicely. Or you can go get 435 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: karate chopped, all right, and and you know that fluid 436 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: exchange correct fluid. If it's gonna have a chance of surviving. 437 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna hook right into the cooler lines. 438 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: I believe on that application, and they're gonna they're gonna 439 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: get old fluid out, fresh fluid in. They'll do a 440 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: one for one exchange because there is no dipstick on 441 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: that transmission. And you can get into the swing of 442 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: doing that all. 443 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: Right, what's the difference between drain and fill and drain 444 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: and exchange. 445 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, drain in pill is you're going to get let's 446 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: say a transmission. The average transmission is twelve quartz. If 447 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: you do a drain in fill, you're only getting it's 448 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: in the pan, so you're only getting out three maybe 449 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: four quarts, right, the rest of the fluids in the converter. 450 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: All right, the torque converter probably in a lot of 451 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: cases has more fluid in it than the actual pan itself. 452 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: So do a doing a drain in fill. Doing a 453 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: drain and fill on a transmission is just like doing 454 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: a drain and fill on a radiator. You ever think 455 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: about all the ways we do radiator service cooling service wrong. 456 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: We do a drain and fill on the radiator. A 457 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: radiator is approximately one third of the cooling system capacity. 458 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: What about the other two thirds the heater core, the 459 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: engine block. So that's why you want to do an exchange. 460 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: That's why you know fluid exchange is gentle pressure, one 461 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: for one replacement. It works. One of the things I've 462 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 2: noticed over the years is we do fluid exchanges at 463 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: the shop, and doing a fluid exchange process, we've had 464 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: less problems with cooling systems because we're getting when coolant 465 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: goes acidic, all right, we have to talk about that 466 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 2: for a second. Why don't we change coolant? Well, it 467 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: gets weak, yes, but it also gets acidic. It gets 468 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: to be like instead of being cider, it becomes like 469 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: apple vinegar, and it gets caustic. And not removing caustic 470 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 2: coolant from an engine causes it to rot from the 471 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: inside out. So doing just a coolant drain and not 472 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: so good. I always tell everybody, Well, my mechanic says 473 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: he's going to do a fluid exchange. Yeah, has to 474 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: see his flush machine or his exchange machine. He doesn't 475 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: have one. Well, then how's he doing it? Bingo? 476 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: Right? 477 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: You know it's it's it just just just the way 478 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: it works. But that's where you are, my friend. I 479 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: would if it were me, just but you got to 480 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: be prepared if the trans fails. The trans fails, but 481 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: at least you'll know early enough on and then you 482 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: can get it rebuilt, because I would still rebuild it. 483 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: That truck's got a lot of life left in it. 484 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: Transmission works perfect. 485 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: Right now, right right now. So but I will tell 486 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: you also that WS fluid tends to lose shift characteristic 487 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: quality would be the fancy college word. In other words, 488 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: the additive or the vitamin package and the fluid tends 489 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: to wear out. You might see an improvement in the 490 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: way it shifts. Just be prepared for you know what, 491 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: if I have a problem, But like I said, if 492 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: the trans in that truck, let's close it out here. John, 493 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: If the trans in that truck were to fail and 494 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: it's seven grand to put a trans in that truck, 495 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: would you do it. 496 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: Right? 497 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 5: I would? 498 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 7: Right? 499 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: Would you? 500 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: John? 501 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: I reckon right? 502 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: Not that you want to, because to replace that truck, 503 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: which you can't really get anymore, is seventy Start doing 504 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: the math. It makes sense, bgfind aeshop dot com. That's 505 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: where you want to be my friend. All right, well 506 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: do and get it. 507 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 7: Service. 508 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: Appreciate your help. 509 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. I appreciate you being there. I'm 510 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: running any in the car, doctor. I'll be back right 511 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: after this. Let's get on over and talk to Let's 512 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: go to Evan in Virginia. Evan welcome, You're on card doctor. 513 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: How can I help, sir? 514 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, he just asked for a plug the other day 515 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 7: on Fundays, pros or I thought about him as you 516 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 7: can tell you what I had. I've got twenty thirteen, 517 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 7: I've alved a few thousand miles on it, and like 518 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 7: ten years ago and got one hundred and twenty seven thousand 519 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 7: miles on it. Doesn't burn any well, I checked the 520 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 7: food before I drop it off with five thousand miles. 521 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 7: It's still full, doesn't burn any will? Have it paid 522 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 7: for anything? Oh? Didn't breaks? Have you the great cars? 523 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: Have you stayed up on the oil changes? Yes, that's 524 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: one five thousand, yeah right, yeah, every five thousand, right, yeah, yeah, 525 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: and that that seems to be part of it. They don't. 526 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: They don't handle laid oil changes very well. But I'm 527 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: glad to hear it. Listen. I appreciate the feedback. I 528 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: really do. I haven't. I haven't heard this story too 529 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: many times, but when I do, it's usually, hey, I 530 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: did my oil changes, so. 531 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 7: I have a guy. I know that. But I was 532 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 7: telling me about a while ago Hunday. I guess they 533 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 7: did something with the motors. They were trying to make 534 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 7: a more energy of fish or something like that, so 535 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 7: there's a ration they went that after a little while. 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 7: But since then, I guess they've got them fixed pretty good. 537 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 7: So he said, he's been seeing, you know, real good 538 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 7: characterization with him all Dad. He said, the way they've 539 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 7: gone through and actually have nothing to do with Honday 540 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 7: just you know, but they did a really good job 541 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: of you know, replacing bad engines and everything. Else said 542 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 7: they were on top of it. He said, he's seeing 543 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 7: cars that were like junk and they basically replaced the motors. 544 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: Yes, he was surprised. 545 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh listen, I'm shocked at how many engines Hunday's replaced, 546 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: and I'm shocked that they would want to do it. Yeah, 547 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: it was. It's incredible what they've done. And to the 548 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: point that not to make this about Hyundai, but you know, listen, 549 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: I give Honday a lot of credit. I just don't know, 550 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: if you know. And I'm basing this on what some 551 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: of the service techs tell me. That the cars don't 552 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: have the quality level that they had ten years ago. 553 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: They say the new ones are a little less quality efficient, 554 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: so to speak in their words. But my point is 555 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: that it seems that as they get older, with less 556 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: whale changes, they kind of fall apart. So I appreciate 557 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: the comments. Evan, I really do, and you be well, 558 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: thank you sir. Enjoy your Honday. Let's real quick, duck 559 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: over and start with Leslie and Maryland will probably pull 560 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: away and come back and finish. Then, Leslie, you're on 561 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: with the card doctor. How can I help? 562 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: Hi? 563 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 6: Ron I just bought a new Bronco Sport twenty twenty five. 564 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Congratulations. Nice truck. Yeah, nice truck. 565 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, it pretty much drives itself, but it has an 566 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 6: annoying safety feature that I can't get an answer how 567 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 6: I can either damp it down or eliminate it permanently. 568 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 6: It's to keep your hands on the steering wheel. And 569 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: I'm a very slight built woman and I don't have 570 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 6: very heavy hands, but it seems to insist that I 571 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: keep my hands on the three and nine position. 572 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: I don't drive like that. 573 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the ration? This is the first I'm hearing 574 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: of it. What's the rationale for that one? Leslie? Have 575 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: you talked to the dealer? What did they say? 576 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 6: Well, they said you're gonna have to call Ford about that. Well, 577 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 6: you can get on there and you'll be on hould 578 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 6: for like forever. Are you? 579 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Are you sure it's not the lane departure system no, I. 580 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 6: Know how to disable that. That's right on the steering 581 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 6: wheel problem. 582 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: And if you disable that, that doesn't do it, obviously, 583 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: because that's why you're calling. 584 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: Me, no, no, no, it doesn't. 585 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you that's a that's a 586 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: bad design. I don't know too many people what happens 587 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: if you take your hand off the steering wheel, one 588 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: hand on the wheel, rolling through a toll booth, and 589 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: if you don't have easy pass and you go to 590 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: take a ticket, you know, take the toll ticket. 591 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 6: If you step on the brake, it's fine. But if 592 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 6: you're going down the highway just you know, driving straight through, 593 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 6: you know, twenty miles down the highways, it's bothersome. It's annoying, 594 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 6: and it makes my driving, you know, less pleasurable because 595 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: I have to keep grabbing the steering wheel. 596 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: So you're telling me if I'm driving a new Ford 597 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Bronco and I'm going down the road and I've got 598 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: my hands at three and three and ten, three and nine. 599 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: Whatever it is, Well, I don't usually drive like that, right. 600 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: But I'm saying if I take one hand off to 601 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: pick up a bottle of water and drink while I'm driving. 602 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 6: To let me do that for a few seconds, and 603 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: then I get a severe warning, take control of the vehicle. 604 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: It's it's an embossy. 605 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, it can only get worse from here, Kitto. You 606 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: know it's it sounds like government intervention to me, for 607 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Ford has succumbed to the powers that be. I guess 608 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: I am shocked. I think that's I think that's I 609 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: understand why they're doing it. But as you say, I. 610 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: Think you should I've been driving since I'm twelve. 611 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you should have the option to 612 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: get rid of that. 613 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me drive my own car. 614 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, right, I thank you. I understand. So let me 615 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: let me ask you talk to the sales department? Did 616 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: you talk to service? 617 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 618 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 6: I had a very very good representative, I mean the 619 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: deal I got on it, and they were helpful and 620 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 6: as much as they know, they were able to tell 621 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: me that he couldn't answer that question, so he said 622 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 6: to call for it. 623 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: But as you know, yeah, I thought maybe maybe you 624 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: heard of that. 625 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: I haven't heard of it. But you know what, I'm 626 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: going to research it. I'm absolutely going to research it. 627 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We may talk about it in the 628 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: next week or two. I know exactly who I'm going 629 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: to call about it over at Ford. All right, I promise, 630 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: all right, thanks, You're very welcome. You be well, that's 631 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: that's crazy, right, that's talk about government control. I just 632 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: I want to drive my car my ways. 633 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm reading the manual right now, so maybe i'll have 634 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: an idea for you when we come back next hour. 635 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: Okay, cool beans, all right, let's pull over. Take the pause. 636 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm running in ny in the car. Doctor. I'll be 637 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: back right after this, so let's finish up with this. 638 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: Ernie from North Carolina right saying, hey, car doctor, I 639 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: want to get my wife a jump pack. Wait, aren't 640 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: you a sport So I want to get my wife, honey, 641 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: I got you. You know, what was it in the 642 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: old days, it used to be if you gave your wife, 643 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: what was it a vacuum cleaner or a coffee pot 644 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: for their birthday. Now we're going to get her a 645 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: jump pack. I wonder Ernie's going to be living after 646 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: her birthday. So I want to get my wife a 647 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: jump pack so she has it in her car all 648 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: the time, so in case she has a problem, she 649 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: can jump start the car. She can also charge her 650 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: cell phone from it. I'm looking for the full feature models. 651 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: What do you know? What do you think? Ernie North Carolina. Ernie, 652 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: let me start off by saying, I'll tell you what 653 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't buy, all right, I would not buy a Noko. 654 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: Everybody seems to like their nocos, me not so much. 655 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: I had a Noko sitting in my toolbox. We probably 656 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: used it, I'm going to say four times. We didn't 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: use it a whole heck of a lot in the 658 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: better part of four years, maybe five. And one day 659 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: we used it on a vehicle and it came up 660 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: with an internal error and the repair because they're not repairable. 661 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: I found out the repair was to either send it 662 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: in and they would give us a discount on a 663 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: new one. And who wants to do that? I just 664 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: I just want this one fixed. I don't feel like 665 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: spend it another four hundred dollars. Go look at Schumacher 666 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: Electric Schumacher Electric dot com. Their lithium jump pack. The 667 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: Model fifteen ninety six is what we looked at and 668 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: what we're using now, and it seems to be a 669 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: very nice piece of equipment. It has good ratings and 670 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: reviews for longevity over at Schumacher Electric dot com and 671 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: see what that does for and wish your wife a 672 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: happy birthday for us as well. I'm running ay in 673 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: the car doctor, till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 674 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: they're priceless. See you