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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I'm your girl,

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Speaker 1: Mandy b I'm weezy ooh like you put, I don't anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm weasy. And it's women's history months, so to be fair,

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Speaker 1: we had women of all different colors and creeds. But

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Speaker 1: the reason we have our guests on is because honestly,

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Speaker 1: I just love the content you're making in your clips.

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Speaker 1: And I saw that Mandy liked one, and Mandy normally

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Speaker 1: don't like have a white guest when I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Like the one where I only saw a black girl

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Speaker 2: on So when she said you know this girl, I said, no, don't.

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Speaker 2: We have now on the pod. Jesus right by the way,

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Speaker 2: before we just started this goddamn episode, we just had

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Speaker 2: a full dissection of Mouth's shoes because I am convinced

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Speaker 2: they were regifted to her. She said they got she

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Speaker 2: got them from a black person. They are like, they

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Speaker 2: are boots.

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Speaker 1: They are boots the Air Force one, Air Force one

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Speaker 1: combat boots. But they're black. That's lesbian. It is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She's kind of right, it is, and maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: they were gifted to you. Okay, I don't know she gay? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: did you guys? Fuck? No, Oh, we've been friends since

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Speaker 1: like middle school. I don't think she was a shooter

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Speaker 1: because who else is buying black Air Force one? Like

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Speaker 1: I I'm shocked. I'm not about to ask my black

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Speaker 1: even gonna hold you mount. But you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you get down, but them shoes say you

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Speaker 1: get down a certain way. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: That's why we like it so far. So now your

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Speaker 1: podcast called Made It Out, tell me a little bit

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Speaker 1: about your show cause it's new, right, Yeah, it's very new.

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Speaker 3: It's like two months old. How you got your ship

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Speaker 3: offer like that, I honestly don't know. We do it

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Speaker 1: Talk about you really got out of there right before

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Speaker 1: they really started fucking over all the laws. Let me

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Speaker 1: get my gut out of here. I'm deeply connected to

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Speaker 1: my guts. My goodness. Yeah, Texas is one of those

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Speaker 2: So I go to Dallas Everythanksgiving and as much as

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Speaker 1: But I just don't feel like makes sense. It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's out. Yeah you you they say that but then

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Speaker 2: You're like, still it's still racist. It's giving Florida two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in Texas room Dallas, Dallas. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: And so made it out is about you coming out

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Speaker 1: Are you gold star? No, you've had dick before, not

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Speaker 3: There is not enough lesbian content period, There's nothing. There's

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Speaker 3: Yes, I actually think so. I think that being a

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Speaker 3: So why would the patriarchy want to put all women

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Speaker 1: Who have women want I did want to ask you something.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it makes sense, but just like it makes sense

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Speaker 2: when you deal with the athlete or man with money,

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Speaker 1: They don't want that. They just want lesbians.

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Speaker 2: Dominant submissive, Yeah, like just the opposites. Yes, but there

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Speaker 1: That's not the way can be together. I was everybody

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Speaker 2: way to get a man away is we'd be like,

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Speaker 2: well my girlfriend and the man would definitely probably nine

435
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Speaker 2: times out of ten, respond will kiss and prove it.

436
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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, are you do you still get that? I

437
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: get No, you're not, No, you're not. I used to

438
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 3: work in the club, and so then when I would

439
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: tell people I was lesbian, the guys are like, no,

440
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: they were too pretty to be a lesbian.

441
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Speaker 1: That's the yeah, oh yeah, Danny. Have you ever had

442
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 1: two girls tell you they were together when you tried

443
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: to hit on a woman? Yeah, it just happened to

444
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: all of us. I feel like you feel ugly when

445
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah, you do. No, wait, wait, I believe them.

446
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: I believe them. Sure, I mean yeah. It depends on

447
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: the setting. Like if it's like you feel like she's

448
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 1: giving someone else motion and you just I'm not getting

449
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: the motion, then I am. I might be ugly, but

450
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: if it's what are shorty than you is, probably doesn't

451
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: happen often though, He's like, let me be nice. He said,

452
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Speaker 1: it don't happen off, but he said, it's happened in

453
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Speaker 1: my lifetime. That's all. We want to do our Vanella

454
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Speaker 1: shit with you, which is our news segment. And I

455
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: was like, let me find a gay one, but this

456
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Speaker 1: one was actually real good. She did. So. This is

457
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 1: a BuzzFeed article that came out last year December eleventh,

458
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and it says, I just found out

459
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Speaker 1: that lesbians tend to make more money than straight women,

460
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Speaker 1: and the reasons why makes sense? Have you heard this?

461
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 3: No, but this does make sense. Bring us up on

462
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Speaker 3: a little gay podcast.

463
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Did you know the lesbians sid to

464
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: make more money? And the phenomenon is known as lesbian

465
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Speaker 1: wage premium. And so recently a woman did a deep dive.

466
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Speaker 1: Her name is Aria of the less on why and

467
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Speaker 1: so it says for years, social scientists have been observing

468
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: that lesbians are making more money than straightmen. How so,

469
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: there was thirty international studies and gay women are earning

470
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Speaker 1: ten percent more even depends on it doesn't matter the country.

471
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Speaker 1: And so here are some of the reasons why. Here

472
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Speaker 1: are the obvious. I want to know what you think

473
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Speaker 1: the obvious reasons? Oh, I would say they spend less

474
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Speaker 1: money on it. They nails because these acrylics is once said,

475
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: what they got to do with make him work? They

476
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Speaker 1: have more up, They're earning more mandia jobs. Oh oh

477
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, why can we ask the lesbian please thank you?

478
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Speaker 1: I'm so curious to go. I was just saying to nails,

479
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Speaker 1: that's all I got, go go, go shut.

480
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Speaker 3: I think it's because we aren't so focused on the

481
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Speaker 3: heteronormative lifestyle.

482
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

483
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: Marrying a man, having kids, settling down, And we're like,

484
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: it's almost like this, we can focus on other things

485
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: because we're not so focused on locking a man down

486
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: to get married. Generalized speaking, every man or every woman

487
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: does will make you.

488
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Speaker 1: Poor because the obvious reason they are less likely to

489
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: have children. Oh, this one's interesting. Lesbians living were predominantly

490
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: more in cities, which probably means that they're moving to

491
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: cities because they're more liberals just like you, which means

492
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: that they're paying more. And it says lesbians tend to

493
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: be more educated than straightmmen, which that I didn't know,

494
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: but probably because they're going to school and they're not

495
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: focusing on these niggers. Okay now, because the fuck you

496
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: up it, especially if you were in college. You remember

497
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: that fucking man, you get pregnant, you can't finish college

498
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: when you got pregnant. A handicapped girl and she said

499
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: she almost had a chance to walk again, but she

500
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: was fucking honest, dude, and she was so worried about dick.

501
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: She missed the appointment. That was like physical therapy. We

502
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: gotta have a friendly back on. She's hilarious. She's on

503
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Speaker 1: a podcast called Watching the Throne. They're hold you, I'm

504
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: gonna hold you.

505
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Speaker 2: We seeing these girls tatam Man's face on their cheek

506
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Speaker 2: and ass, I don't want I might end up being

507
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Speaker 2: a guess on your pos soon.

508
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Speaker 1: The way, I don't want these problems with these men.

509
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: It's that making bitches stupid out here, Like the dick

510
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: is literally fucking with they brain YEP, I don't want it.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't want By the way, Friend, she was a

512
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: teenager when she said that, Like she was a teenager

513
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: when she got shot. So it's like, you know, you're

514
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: a kid, you're looking around, but like, because I know,

515
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: I think like as an adult, maybe you're taking your

516
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: health more serious. But I love how much she laughed

517
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: about it with us. We were like, no, really, dick

518
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: got you any gap. But in lesbian couple's household, labor

519
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: tends to be more equally divided, so neither partner is

520
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: sacrificing work. Ah, that means you're not so worried about

521
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: going home and fucking cooking dinner because you know your

522
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: girl gonna do the other half. That you're gonna get

523
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Speaker 1: that ot.

524
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Speaker 2: You gonna get that time and a half cause you

525
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: like bitch, you gotta run home and cook she got.

526
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go do the laundry and clean the house.

527
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: She got. Both lesbian partners contributed more equally, meaning that

528
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: lesbians do not face trade offs on needing to focus

529
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Speaker 1: on family or the pressures. And interestingly, when you look

530
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: at wages with lesbians who have lived with the previous

531
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: male spouse and lesbians who have never lived with a

532
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: male spouts, yes, that's the true many baby bro. The

533
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: lesson is here that lesbians are not better at making money.

534
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: It just reconfirms that domestic labor situations at home contribute

535
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: to how women earn less outside. That was the fun,

536
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: which does make sense. I mean, and you have to

537
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: consider too. I think kids is probably the biggest one. Like,

538
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: there's certain shifts you can't take at jobs. If you

539
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: are the primary provider for your child, you have to

540
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: pick them up from school, you have to drop them off,

541
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: or you then have to consider, dang, it's gonna cost

542
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: me this much in daycare and babysitting. Yeah. So there's

543
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: even certain career paths and jobs that hetero women cannot

544
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Speaker 1: take if they want to be mothers or why you know,

545
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this.

546
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Speaker 3: It's also that science is going to be involved regardless, Yeah,

547
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: when we have kids, so the process can be delayed.

548
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel as like, you know, stressed or tight,

549
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: because it's like we can have kids at thirty eight, or.

550
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: You freeze your eggs or you're talking yeah yeah, adoption

551
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: or well yeah, so many different yes, And it's like

552
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: already things that you're getting your brain around, because when

553
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: you are a lesbian, you're already thinking in that way

554
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: versus like, I really do think I have straight girlfriends

555
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: who are so stressed on these apps because they're aging out.

556
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: They're aging out, yeah, and like men won't.

557
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Now they're competing with like you know, men probably have

558
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: a high age range on their apps twenty five to whatever,

559
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: one to whatever. You so now you're competing with those

560
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: girls and you're older, and then I feel like men

561
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: think like that, Oh no, they a you're timed out

562
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: or you're aging out.

563
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: Oh they think like that.

564
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: They literally, okay, they literally are like your value decreases as.

565
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: You age in being a woman.

566
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Speaker 2: Like and let's be very clear, we've talked about it

567
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 2: as well, like men don't really care about the successes

568
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 2: or how much money you make or where you are

569
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: in your career. They're looking at how can you support them?

570
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: How can you show up as a wife, How can

571
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: you nurture our children? How can you take care of

572
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: this house? Listen to it every time I think free time,

573
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of women right now we

574
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: are because if we don't work, we don't pay our bills.

575
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Because these these motherfuckers ain't really paying our bills or

576
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: making enough money to really provide like they should. And

577
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: so we're getting into these positions where we're really proud

578
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: of the things that we're doing and not willing to

579
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: stop doing it to be a fucking arm candid housewife.

580
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: What do you think that you've taught your friends since

581
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: being gay that you maybe didn't No, No, sorry, being out,

582
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: it's just being out, that's tie being out. It's being

583
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: out as a lesbian that you hadn't really noticed before.

584
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Like have you seen some stuff in maybe even yourself

585
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: from before where you were like, damn, I was tripping,

586
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't have been so obsessed with I don't

587
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: know whether it be marriage or status or you know,

588
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: having the cars in house, Like have you been able

589
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: to put that a.

590
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Completely different person? Like one eighty one hundred percent. I

591
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: could not be more different than I was when I

592
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: was straight.

593
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

594
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I was fully in a marriage.

595
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: I essentially had a divorce with a man, and like

596
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: my focus was, Yeah, I'm going to have this like

597
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: little nine to five career. I'm going to try to

598
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 3: make you know, one hundred thousand dollars a year. Like

599
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 3: I was very okay with whatever my life was going

600
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: to be because it was a man was going to

601
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: come along, we were going to have a baby, We're

602
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: going to have the white picket fence, whatever, and that

603
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: was it. I was so in that mindset. And then

604
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: when I came to La it was like I came out.

605
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: That was the first thing that kind of awoke everything.

606
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: It was switching my app dating a woman, and then

607
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 3: it was like fuck everything. I got laid off from

608
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: my job or my coverorate job. I was like, I'll

609
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: never do it again. I went back to bottle service

610
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: after I hadn't been in the clubs for a long time,

611
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: and at twenty twenty six, twenty seven, I'm back in

612
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: a club because I'm like, I will I won't do it.

613
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: I will not go back to So it was like

614
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: this shift in, Okay, if I'm going to disappoint society

615
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: in this way, then I might as well do whatever

616
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: the fuck I want to do. Because you felt like

617
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: you were disappointing society by going back into the clubs. No,

618
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: but well kind of, but really by being gay is

619
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: more so what I meant, Like, I'm already not what

620
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: everybody says I should be.

621
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to work the job.

622
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go back and do what takes

623
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: the least amount of time and makes and make the

624
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: money and free up my mind to do other things.

625
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: And like I truly can say, that's why I have

626
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: the podcast because my girlfriend found me looking for She

627
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: found me on TikTok casting, a lesbian reality TV show.

628
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: She created, a show, found me.

629
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Speaker 3: Literally, I said, the minute I blocked my ex girlfriend's number,

630
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: my whole life is going to change.

631
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 1: I blocked my ex girlfriend. Ummer keep talking, people need

632
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: to hear this. Yes, it's an energy thing.

633
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: The minute I close this energetic door on this toxic

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: first girlfriend that I had, the one that was you know,

635
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: whatever I am going at my whole life. I'm going

636
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: to get every single thing that I want to get.

637
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: And three days after I blocked her number, my girlfriend

638
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: messaged me, do you have any any interest in being

639
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: on reality TV? And we did this whole thing. It

640
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: was a pilot that got shot, it didn't get green lit.

641
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: But because that didn't get green lit, I started We

642
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: started the podcast together. Wow, let's try to do some

643
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: sort of version of that type of representation.

644
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Danny put the camera on you. You were Patty. You

645
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: are Patty talking to but today let him go keep going.

646
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Sorry truly him or her? Honestly that men are worse.

647
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, so okay, you block that happens. I'm curious.

648
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a moment where you were like, oh,

649
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm jumping from relationship to relationship? Yes, when I was well,

650
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: and is it okay? It is rebounding? Okay, okay.

651
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: To be fair, my girlfriend and I broke up and

652
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: then we were very lesbian on and off for like.

653
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's heterod two girl, and did just let the

654
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: girl I had our own community be on and off

655
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: a little bit? Good? Pussy's good? Did goodn makes good? Pussy?

656
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: God it's so different with women. It's so much more

657
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: of an emotional thing. We are so criers, keep going.

658
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 3: But that's what I love about it. I don't know,

659
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm such a lesbian in that way, me and my shoes.

660
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: That I couldn't do it. That's why I don't like

661
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I'll be like I just have sex with women. I

662
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: couldn't be with them and they're too it's too emotional

663
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: for me, too needy.

664
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I don't like, that's not so interesting. That's

665
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: not what I can't that's giving avoid it. No, I

666
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: can't be that for I can't be that for somebody.

667
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: I have a lot that I that I'm personally working on.

668
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: I also like to just sometimes have my my space

669
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: and like women be liking to be up under motherfuckers,

670
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: they just do like I think that even my see.

671
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I like, I like to have sex with you. Like

672
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I just met over over the holiday break.

673
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I met this girl at a homeboy's house and immediately

674
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: we like.

675
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Connected and it was cool. I was like, you know,

676
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: it's like connect No, it was like, I'm like, I

677
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: could probably fuck her, like if we hang out a

678
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: couple more times, and so we exchanged numbers but immediately

679
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: she was like, let me know when you make home,

680
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come over tomorrow and cook you breakfast. Oh

681
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: my god, I leave before. Oh oh my god, that

682
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: happened to me too in Paris.

683
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: Offered to like, cook me breakfast the next day I

684
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: leave out of town. But then when I come back,

685
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: I want to take you here. I have this party

686
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: keep and she started sending me all these finds and

687
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: I was like, girl, first off, I'm good, I don't

688
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: need breakfast.

689
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not hungry. I have busy things going on.

690
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: I said, well, we'll run into each other, but it

691
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: immediately was like I had to push her away because

692
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: it was too much. And I think, like, that's what

693
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot of and do women also be playing. I

694
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: shared another story where me and my homegirl. She came over,

695
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: laid in my bed as naked and literally didn't want

696
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: to fuck because she wanted me to take her to

697
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: the movies first. Bitch, we don't put your clothes on,

698
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: get out, Like I was so upset because I noticed

699
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: how bitches be playing with niggas too, like, oh my god,

700
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: but you have to take me to the movies first.

701
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: When are we gonna go on a date. You are

702
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: in my bed naked, bitch, put some clothes on if

703
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna fuck right now. I was so annoyed

704
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: that she even played with me like that, Like the

705
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: mental gymnastics of women to me is too draining. No,

706
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: so okay, you hauling is a real thing. What is

707
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: it called you hauling when they move in? Yes? Okay,

708
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: not what Kingwoods did when he sucked that night.

709
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: And the.

710
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Friend of the show. You hauling is where women will

711
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: try to move in.

712
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: That's like the the stigma it is.

713
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: It is.

714
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: It's a thing I think as women we connect on

715
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: a deeper level.

716
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I know right away. Is this going to go somewhere?

717
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Is it's not going to go somewhere. So then you're like, okay,

718
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: well it's expensive.

719
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: We're in La. Let's not pay two rents. Let's just

720
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's just okay. But I think that I

721
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: lost where I was going with that thought. But yes,

722
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: do you do two bedrooms when you move in with

723
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: a girl? No, you sleep in the same room. Yes,

724
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: but not okay, that's where I.

725
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: Was Wait, not all friends, no, I mean, but this

726
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: one thing.

727
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: And we had the conversation about the separate bedrooms, if

728
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: I even move in with a man like my ex.

729
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: I was talking about it. We were like, well, we need

730
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: a two bedroom and you can have some of this.

731
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like me, if.

732
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I think about moving in with a person right now,

733
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: it's not to say we got to get another bedroom

734
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: because there's two of us.

735
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Talking about if I'm mad at you, we're gonna have

736
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: a little guest bed that you can sleep in. I

737
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: can't imagine living with someone right now with one bedroom. Yeah.

738
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I just stayed in a loft apartment in Mexico for

739
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: a week with the dude dated and I was like,

740
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh no, that's a real thing. Do

741
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: you think with your partners?

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, yeah, it's pretty enmeshed. I

743
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: will say that, like, I think good relationships have healthy boundaries.

744
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Oh yes, we very much. Like yeah, yeah we do.

745
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: But I think we're kind of it's a healthier relationship.

746
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: But now you're working together.

747
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a lot. Yeah, Oh what should

748
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: be fighting about? I think we're very No, I don't

749
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: think that's true.

750
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think it's so.

751
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Much easier to communicate with a woman. It's like, we

752
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: get it we're both in therapy, we're both healing. It's like, okay,

753
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: I here's why I did what I did. Here's why

754
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: you did what you did. And it's like I hear you.

755
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: I hear you, and then it's you actually see change.

756
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: Like it's different than communicating with a man. I never

757
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: got there with a man. Yeah, it's a it's it's difficult,

758
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: and with a woman, it's like it's a back and forth.

759
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: We get it.

760
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: But my girlfriend and I are so different. I'm like

761
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: the dreamer, let's do more. I want more, don't cap us.

762
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: She's very like, let's focus on today right now and

763
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: the process.

764
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know, she's what you're doing. She's a Taurus.

765
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: We've got to star this thing. Okay. I date a

766
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: lot of tourists. My ex girlfriend is a tourist too.

767
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm dating a tourist man right now. Okay, they're great.

768
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: I love a tourist. I need a tourist. You need

769
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: a person, and they happen to have a birthday where

770
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: on the calendar. Until you find a meme that you like,

771
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Oh the me, listen, it's a meme.

772
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't live my lie by memes. I'll repost the

773
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: meme real quick and yes I'm a libra and if

774
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: it's says so I'm cute, I would just post that thing.

775
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: But I don't start the moves. Shit, Okay, take what

776
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: we like.

777
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: So in your new relationship, are there any traumas you've

778
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: brought from your past? Because I know when I'm dating men,

779
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of bringing a lot of my old insecurities up.

780
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Like as you lying is you're doing this at he's scheming.

781
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: What about you, Like, have you done that? Mm hmm.

782
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: I think yeah, a lot of family of origin. I'm

783
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: like the oldest, so there's a lot that comes with that.

784
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: My brother's a professional baseball player and the baby and

785
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: the only boy of the family, so there was like

786
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, attention there. I think there's

787
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: like some abandonment. You know, we all have some problem.

788
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, I mean from like literally

789
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: the last X that you just said on.

790
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: The last X hmmm, Yeah, I think she really made

791
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: me feel bad about where I fit in within the

792
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: community and like, my nobody's ever gonna want to be

793
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: with you because you came out so late, you don't

794
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: know what you're doing. That type of thing. She also

795
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: was like really shed kind of flight, put me down.

796
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Like you don't say, like what like fucking huh? She

797
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: would say, like you didn't know what you were doing

798
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: and what realm?

799
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: I think all like sex with sex ist sex is

800
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: scary when you haven't had sex with women, but it's

801
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: something that you've wanted your whole life and you've only

802
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: had sex with men and then you switch. The first

803
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: time I with the girl, I did not move my

804
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: hands literally stayed glued to my side.

805
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: I was terrified that kind of sex.

806
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Did you have everything? No, Like she went down on me,

807
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: fingered me, gave me head. It was the full thing,

808
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: and I just did you scissor not that time? Not

809
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: first time?

810
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: When it was happening, did you know that you wanted more?

811
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Or did you feel like, oh, I don't know how

812
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: to reciprocate. I didn't know how to reciprocate. That's exactly

813
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: how I felt. There's even moments where if it's been

814
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: too long, I feel the exact same way. I'm like, damn,

815
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I've been sucking shit.

816
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: Like well, the thing is is yes, but also every

817
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: girl is different.

818
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: Is the hardest thing.

819
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: I've ever done in my life and is yeah, because

820
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: like I actually like fingers inside me, but again I

821
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: like penetration too. There's a lot of women that you

822
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: have to ask for us, like some women don't want

823
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: fingers in them at all.

824
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't like you looking too hard, so I

825
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: don't like fucking you. Just had a guest on a

826
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: few months ago, Christina, who talked about the teeth like

827
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: yo teeth teeth. She said it felt like her laby

828
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: was getting stuck in the teeth. No, I don't like that. Yeah,

829
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: you know like I mean.

830
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: And again there's still we also know that women don't

831
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: often tell their partner when something doesn't feel good.

832
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: We do that with men.

833
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: So I think that it becomes we're trying to teach

834
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: each other what feels good when we have also innately

835
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: not really grew up being able to tell people what

836
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: we like, what we don't like, exploring our bodies really late, and.

837
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of us are put up Bread Brendon,

838
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: y'all make sure you get your tickets now. May fifth,

839
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: we are at the Earth Theater in London's and we

840
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: made this a specific request to be in London on

841
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: the weekend, so that are all of our euro people

842
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: can come and see this. We want our whole euro people,

843
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Europe and Europe pull whatever, all the black people that

844
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: live over there. Just take that another fucking year star

845
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: and come and see us. We're gonna be there. May fifth,

846
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: we are having a whole new show, one that you

847
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't see. This is a part of the Climax tour.

848
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: So even if you were on the Climax Tour and

849
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: you need a little trip, it's gonna be warmer, it's

850
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. Come through and see as That's right,

851
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: make sure you head on over to hohre hive dot

852
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: com and get your tickets. Now, this is a really

853
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: good moment. We have a Horror Durve segment where we

854
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: asked for a sex tip and I don't know if

855
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I've ever asked for this, and I feel like this

856
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: is a really simple things to say. But I dated

857
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a girl for a few years on this pod. So

858
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: during that time, and you remember, oh, fans were disrespectful.

859
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: It was crazy, like that was probably the most I'd

860
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: ever felt violated, always touched by women. They were just

861
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: doing a lot. But I think girls were just fantasizing

862
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: more because they got to hear lesbian stories more than

863
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: hetero ones at the time. However, a lot of the

864
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: questions were want to be with a girl? How do

865
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I do it? How do I do it? Where do

866
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: I start? I really want to talk about that, like

867
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: first time lesbian sex, how could we be decent at it?

868
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Like let's talk to someone that's never done it.

869
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: I think literally every time I'm asked this, because on

870
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: my podcast, this is probably the number one question that

871
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 3: we get.

872
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: It's my first time, and how do I do it?

873
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: And the answer is it's gonna be so embarrassing and

874
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: so fucking awkward, and like it.

875
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: That just is what it is.

876
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think there's any practical advice that you

877
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: can give for with a man.

878
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: There is because your open legs are open. That's it. Yes,

879
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: that's do you like? What about for touching? Like do

880
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: you recommend that someone says it's their first time? Do

881
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: you recommend that they're trying oral? Like where can they practice?

882
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: Like we gotta give these bits a sum it.

883
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I think going back to what you were saying,

884
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: how we weren't we aren't taught to communicate?

885
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Lesbian sex is so communicative. Oh, that's normal to talk.

886
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: It's normal to say do this, do that, I like this,

887
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: and I know that doesn't feel very normal, but like,

888
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: get feedback in a lesbian relationship is so important because

889
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 3: if you don't help me get there, I'm never gonna

890
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: get there. Like it's gonna take me six months to

891
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: do what I could do in six minutes if you

892
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: just talk to me, you know. So, I think that's

893
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: like the number one actual practical tip other than that,

894
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: find the fucking clip.

895
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: I just bringing in toys also, like could help. Maybe

896
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: that's a little too much in the beginning. I feel

897
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: the opposite. I think toys take it away from being

898
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: all on you. Yes, it could be easier in that way,

899
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: would be easier, yes, like if it's a lesbian like

900
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: lesbian sex to me. And again, I wouldn't just start

901
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: pulling out toys the first time. I always say, talk

902
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: about toys first. I love talk about toys first. Well,

903
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna play with let's go together and buy them.

904
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: But I think that would is what would take.

905
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: The pressure off of the first time with a lesbian

906
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: is actually having toys there. Yeah, And it takes the

907
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: pressure off of you actually having to do all the

908
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: things and now you're just using the toys, so now

909
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: my hands can be free. Sometimes my hands begining tired

910
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: or to motherfucking wand it's like it's just too much.

911
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: So to have somebody like that was one of the

912
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: things I used to love about sex with my ex.

913
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: We brought in so many toys. It felt great sometimes

914
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: for someone to use toys on me. Yes, so to me,

915
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: that would that would be maybe my tip if someone scared, like,

916
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: maybe just play with toys first.

917
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: One of your favorite toys to use in your relationship.

918
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: I love a vibrator. I'm one of the people that

919
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: I can't really come from penetration. It's like not I think,

920
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: like I was saying before, I've got weird trauma around it.

921
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: I don't love it unless there's like a shit ton

922
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: of intimacy. There has to be a lot built up first, right,

923
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: and then it's like, okay, we can introduce a toy.

924
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: It makes sense why men doesn't work for you.

925
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Yes, So I'm very very like clit stimulation and any vibrator.

926
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm I told someone recently on an interview that I

927
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: did when they were sorry. It wasn't recently, it was old,

928
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: but I remember they were like talking about things to

929
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: do for your first time, and I was like, yo,

930
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: I think thinking of masturbating together and with each other

931
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: is maybe the easiest way to talk about being gay

932
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: for the first time, particularly because like I was, I

933
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: remember rubbing my clip on a lot of her body

934
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: and fingering myself but then heard fingering me showing her

935
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: what to do a lot of kissing, but like touching

936
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: each other. And it was tough because you feel like

937
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: you're going to be so bad, and we know how

938
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: bad our experiences with men have been if they're too rough,

939
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: so you want to be super gentle, but then not

940
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: gentle enough to where you seem like you don't know

941
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: what you're doing. It's a lot of pressure. And I

942
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: wanted to ask the questions about four girls that are

943
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: wanting to have their first experience with a woman. You

944
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: mentioned apps tell us some of those if you'd recommend that,

945
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: or maybe just the lesbian night at a gay club.

946
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: What do you think?

947
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: I so I was on hinge and that's why no, Okay,

948
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: go ahead and show your experience. Well, I was on

949
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: a hinge, I swiped, I went on a date, and

950
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: then I got into a relationship.

951
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: If you went there very long. Congratulations done and then yeah,

952
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean after that Hinge. No, they're a hinge. Oh

953
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: why not her? Because the ones I don't know about that.

954
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

955
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't think they're just like not the best. I

956
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: would say.

957
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: She said, you go swipe love a lot? What about mumble?

958
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Did you use bumble? No? I think I feel like

959
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Hinge is the one. You know, you know why I belove.

960
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: That's when I was on. So when I when I

961
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: got on there, I actually had to take so I

962
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: went on there it says bisexual, so I'm interested in

963
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: men and women, Babe.

964
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I had to take the women off. It was too

965
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: much of the way, too many women. They were all

966
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: very good looking. I was like, oh, no, this is

967
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: this is at this point a bit uncomfortable, Like, uh,

968
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: there is too much.

969
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: There were too many women. I felt like it was

970
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: too much to choose from.

971
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I clearly was like, I really don't want

972
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: to have to take y'all on dates.

973
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I really just want to fuck. So I said, let

974
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: me get the fuck, let me get women off of this.

975
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm beloved. How did you know what your girl type was?

976
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Because you said you've known you were gay for a

977
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: long time. How did you know and what were those feelings? Like?

978
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh, you actually, So I had this friend when I

979
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: was little that was like we were like three and

980
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: four years old, and we used to play house and

981
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: we used to kiss.

982
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I think her and then.

983
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: My first nanny her name, She looks exactly like my girlfriend.

984
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: They both have like really simply all like my first friend,

985
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: and my nanny has very tea here characteristics, and they

986
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: both look like my girlfriend. The nanny is my girlfriend.

987
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: I swear, I'll have to show you guys picture now.

988
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: There may have been some subconscious to where you were

989
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: attracted to these people when you were younger, but you

990
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: were fighting it.

991
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: So I kind of think so because I have a

992
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: memory also where I asked my nanny what sex was

993
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: she like, I didn't ask my parents, but I had

994
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: heard about sex and I asked my nanny. So I

995
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: don't know if there's some sort of like weird logical

996
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: correlation or something.

997
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. Nanny, And how did your parents take

998
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: you coming out, especially being from Texas like that.

999
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: Were from Chicago originally, Okay, we moved to Texas when

1000
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: I was like eight, So my parents are super progressive.

1001
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I think you're going through a face.

1002
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 3: I think they were shocked, but no, because I'm pretty like,

1003
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, I was like, no, I've gotten here, I'm there, like,

1004
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: so I think they were.

1005
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that. Do you feel like

1006
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: there was something? Did you have a coming out post online?

1007
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: I've seen two of them, and one of them I

1008
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you only just came out two years ago.

1009
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: And two years ago was when Starbucks had all the

1010
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: rainbows was everywhere, baby, it was the time Republicans were

1011
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not having it. It was the wild.

1012
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: So like two years ago, we're in the middle of

1013
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: a pandemic. It's everyone's online.

1014
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Did you tell the world online at all? You did? You? Guys? This?

1015
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: I used to have quadruple deep boobs, so like part

1016
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: of my straight life was like massive fucking tips. So

1017
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: it's me and this tank top with a roller in

1018
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: my hair, smoking a joint, coming through these doors.

1019
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: Video youted a whole coming well. It was kind of

1020
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: like I was doing.

1021
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: A like a gender reveal, but my kind of yeah,

1022
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: And I said, I think I said, like in case

1023
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: you ever heard, because it was the post is like me.

1024
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Coming out the closet.

1025
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, at third or at twenty eight or something basically older,

1026
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, I.

1027
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: It's so excessive. It's like, why did I do that?

1028
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: You still you archived it? Huh? You got it up still? Yeah?

1029
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, we're gonna of course social media. I might

1030
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: about to go round like what I mean?

1031
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: So, but was that a conversation with any of the

1032
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: other lesbian friends that you may have had, or you know,

1033
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: even family members. Was there a conversation about coming out,

1034
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: like and what that announcement had to look like or

1035
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: how you would tell the world.

1036
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I mean I had to come out

1037
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 3: because it was not like you had to. Yeah, I

1038
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: for my family kind of yeah, because I had lived

1039
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 3: such a different life and I had dated so many

1040
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: men and been in like serious relationships with men. So

1041
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: I did feel like, Okay, I have to say something,

1042
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: you know. And I think I was so purbl in

1043
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: it by the time I came out.

1044
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: The only one.

1045
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: I called my mom in a panic during the you know, pandemic,

1046
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, I'm in a

1047
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: full blown relationship with a woman, just bawling. I didn't

1048
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: know what was going on, but I waited to tell

1049
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: everybody else, like to tell my family. And I think

1050
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: by the time I told the rest of my family,

1051
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: I was so secure in myself and like this is

1052
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: who I am, and I had already gone through the

1053
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 3: am I bye and all of that stuff, the religious stuff,

1054
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: that I came to a point where I was like

1055
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: I was ready to answer questions.

1056
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: Do you have Kinsley scale moments where you're like, you said,

1057
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: am I bye? But and then moments where you're seeing

1058
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: men and maybe you get a little tangli in that

1059
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: blissing or are you just looking at them in a

1060
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: different way, like he's handsome, but I don't want.

1061
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of funny because I live life in extremes,

1062
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: like I've been a stripper and I also worked in

1063
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: corporate America and I've dated men, and I'm all, so

1064
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: I think I work in that way. I'm really quick

1065
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 3: to like make a jump to something.

1066
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I wish I could see the stripper and you I

1067
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: don't see it. Maybe it's the pants not with these shoes,

1068
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: but I'll see it, shrimp, I go, very beautiful. We

1069
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: need to put the shoes in it, because there I'm

1070
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: standing by these shoes I'm wearing them every day. Now

1071
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna come to your first live show and bring

1072
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: them and I don't wear these shoes for you guys. Well,

1073
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: what advice would you give to any any woman listening

1074
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: that bill as though they are lesbian and they want,

1075
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: like they're considering coming out, Like what battles and what

1076
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: things should they focus on before coming out to the world.

1077
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: I think the only not the only.

1078
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: There's definitely like worldly in societal and cultural battles, But

1079
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: I think the most important part is getting really clear

1080
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: within yourself and like accepting it within yourself, because if

1081
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: you don't feel that way within you, you're not going

1082
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: to be able to fight the rest of the world,

1083
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: you know, and to to to stand firm and be

1084
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: okay with that.

1085
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: Can I ask you, well, outside of your own community,

1086
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: it seems like we there's a lot of bickering within

1087
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: the own you know, the LGBTQ community, But as a lesbian,

1088
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like gay men, I definitely

1089
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: see society's pressures. What are the societal pressures on lesbians?

1090
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean?

1091
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: Like, I think we're heavily sexualized. It's there, We're not

1092
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: really taken serious. I think it's kind of it's more

1093
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: of a.

1094
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you're gay. Yeah okay, yeah, you're playing which

1095
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: on the up with the opposite end with men, it's

1096
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: like shameful, like you know, if you suck a dick,

1097
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: you're out. Yes, it's interesting, okay, So they just don't

1098
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: believe that. They actually believe that you want to take dick.

1099
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: You just don't right now totally.

1100
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think that or it's like somebody hurt you,

1101
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: you just need the right guy, or you just That's

1102
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: what I was going to say about your story.

1103
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I know somebody's feeling like that because that is super tramatic.

1104
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: But I think that we do need to end a

1105
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: certain relationship sometimes to like explore and sometimes we're in

1106
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: the right relationship, but the relationship we think that is

1107
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: right for us to know that I'm with a guy

1108
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: who's you know, doing well and like a pilot is

1109
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: such an amazing job, and like it seems like the

1110
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: perfect family life. One thing I wanted to talk to

1111
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: you actually about before we wrap was what does lesbian

1112
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: conversations surrounding family planning look like? And how soon it's

1113
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: too soon? And yeah, how have you felt about it,

1114
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: and how y'all start saving because that shit is, you

1115
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: know it is.

1116
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: I think my girlfriend and I are actually like already

1117
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: in talks. We're not engaged yet, but it's a long

1118
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: there together two years so it's getting there. And then

1119
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: but you kind of have to think about these things

1120
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: because it's like we're not ready now, we probably won't

1121
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: be ready for four or five years. And we got

1122
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: to freeze the eggs because we're in our thirties, you know,

1123
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: So that's it right there.

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00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say to you, if you don't

1125
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: have them early, I feel like I had one on

1126
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: a few dates with a girl that was like, no way,

1127
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm only adopting Oh really, And I was like, well

1128
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: that's no. She was saying, I'm not trying to do

1129
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: all this scientific shit, like look at all these kids

1130
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: in the world, and I was like, damn, I didn't

1131
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: feel like being gay was gonna mean I couldn't have

1132
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: my own kids. And we were like on two different

1133
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: playing fields.

1134
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: So now you know why U haul happens because you

1135
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: are having these conversations.

1136
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of like commitment things, I think

1137
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: with women because we have relationships so bitch, we go together. See,

1138
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: it's too much, there's too much pressure. I listen. I'm

1139
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: not always I might not always, but I've felt it. Yeah,

1140
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: and it's like it's just different issues.

1141
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, you know, and you're having these conversations

1142
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: really early, so I don't and it's normal. It's like

1143
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: I think on the outside, it's probably like whoa, you

1144
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: guys are talking about that for a second third date.

1145
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: But it's like we ought to know why we're not

1146
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: going to get all the way down the road. And

1147
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 3: now I find out that you don't really want kids

1148
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: or you don't really this isn't the life you foresee it,

1149
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: which is a lot more normal in a community that's

1150
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: a lot more open and not so heteronormative. It's like

1151
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: these why do you think? Open relationships and you know,

1152
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: threesomes and like all of that stuff is so much

1153
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: more normal because you're already breaking the norm.

1154
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Like tell me though, when it comes to freezing as

1155
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: there's so many ways to have a kid with a woman, right,

1156
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: maybe surrogate, maybe you're carrying your own baby. What about

1157
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: the sperm? Which have you guys talked about?

1158
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: So we actually have a sperm donor, how'd you pick it?

1159
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: He is like, he's our best friend.

1160
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he want him around? Okay, yeah, we want

1161
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: him around.

1162
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: I think I think he Yeah, he's a he's a

1163
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: really good friend of ours. He's absolutely beautiful. He's a

1164
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: gay man. Yes, oh he owns a design interior design,

1165
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: successful business. And we're like, it's just the best, you know.

1166
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: And so he is like actively like, yes, please let me.

1167
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: And so whose.

1168
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Eggs do you like? Do you fight over that?

1169
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to carry hers and she's going to carry mine? Okay,

1170
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: so you all want to hear something crazy. My girlfriend's

1171
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: fucking insane and she wants to have kids at the

1172
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: same time.

1173
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: She wants you got to be predy together. That sounds

1174
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: like a TLC show. Maybe I need dat. I actually

1175
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: that's my dream scenario.

1176
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: And she wants she wants me to carry twins, such

1177
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: three babies out.

1178
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I know, I don't feel like I can understand this,

1179
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: which I also can get why you totally don't you

1180
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: like we gotta lean on each other. But for me,

1181
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: I think pregnancy is such a crazy experience. I've never

1182
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: been pregnant. Well, sorry, Mitch, you never went through with

1183
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: a full pregnancy. You never gay birse, I don't live

1184
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: in Texas. Let's just say that. Okay. By point, even

1185
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: when you do pregnant, I've been out on the paper pregnant, Okay.

1186
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: So I feel like there's a lot that you could

1187
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: feel left out on through a lesbian pregnancy experience. So

1188
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: I think to have it together must feel so special

1189
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: because one person is getting all the attention, one person

1190
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: is feeling all these things. You'll know what that feels like,

1191
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: Like that might be super jope. He gotta live in

1192
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: the house, you know, somebody gotta rub the feet.

1193
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: It's like fine until the babies come and then it's

1194
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: like this is all one. Yeah, that that sounds You

1195
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: got to put a boundary.

1196
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: I should know. This is not tell all the lesbians

1197
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Speaker 1: and nons where to find you. You can find me

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Speaker 1: has been yet another episode of Horbores. Decision Back. It's bliss,

1213
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: bitch is welcome back, y'all. We're back for a cinema.

1214
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: We haven't done one in a while, but we haven't

1215
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: got two cinemas. That's why cinema we did. We got

1216
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: two last month. Let me look. Let me on the

1217
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: pat yeah man, and we and we posted on my

1218
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: think back to back too. I don't remember. I mean,

1219
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think we.

1220
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: Spend enough time really talking about the cinema the ways

1221
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: we should. So I know this one like, I for

1222
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: sure want to get into it. But let me see

1223
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: the last cinemas well.

1224
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, if you haven't watched Maya

1225
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: Kopa yet, please watch it. Can ye spoiler alert? Can

1226
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: you please put the camera on me for a moment.

1227
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: I need to say something to me. You didn't one

1228
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: moment you did. Who the fuck did I marry cinema?

1229
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: That don't count? Why does that not count? That wasn't

1230
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: a movie? Bitch, Hold on, let me let me get

1231
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: this out. Go ahead, Miss Kelly Rowland. She's not seeing this.

1232
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: She only sees this on our life. How she not

1233
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: seeing this? She says she she fucked with us, but

1234
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: she said she had patron did don't matter because we

1235
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: find have made this a clip. Let me tell you

1236
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: somethingss Kelly Rodan. Okay, I finished Madkofa and I loved it,

1237
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: mainly because we got to see you outside of shirt

1238
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: and pants. Now, what I was very upset about was

1239
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: the ending that man wanted more of you and you

1240
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: said no. I understand you have a great husband and

1241
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: a life and children in real life. You should have said, yes,

1242
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: we need the sequel. I needed a fantasy. It's agree,

1243
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: hun stand on motherfucking business. What's the business? Fuck him again?

1244
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: No, there was no business there. Let's be heard that

1245
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: he is the reason one of her closest friends got

1246
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: stabbed and killed. Huh exactly because she chat.

1247
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: And all with the same nigga. I don't know that

1248
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I know. No, of course you don't. I know the

1249
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: paint got on that course you don't. We gonna get

1250
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: to the best friend got stabbed. No, yes she did not.

1251
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: The reason he is not directly related that just because

1252
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: he had bomb dick and everybody wanted to fuck him.

1253
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: She let he led that nigga to kill. No. And

1254
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: by the way, if you it was clearly clearly if

1255
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: you have not seen this that we are about to

1256
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: give all. I blame the white mother killing. Sure, Mandy,

1257
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 1: that makes sense, it does. Kelly should have you should

1258
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: have sucked him for TV. Sorry, continue, I was very upset.

1259
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: I watched it again last night and I just took

1260
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: just because I can't be the clup.

1261
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: We're not making that a clip. Who not bright, We

1262
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: can't post a spoiler alert clip like that.

1263
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: Yes, we can't. Bet. You just told him to end

1264
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: in Everybody watched that ship to see you from Kelly,

1265
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: but ship hit Twitter and they didn't make it to

1266
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 1: the end. So guess because I'm gonna be honest with you,

1267
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: no disrespect the first one. So you watched it twice, Okay.

1268
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: The first time I watched it, I was keeping to

1269
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: see the fucking Okay, and then because I have an

1270
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: hour and a half to give in the moment, but

1271
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I gotta see this because you

1272
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: just have ad I just wanted no, no, no, no no.

1273
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: I wanted to see like this. She show a titt.

1274
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: That's what I needed to see. I needed to go no,

1275
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: but we said I got enough. I got top of Aerial.

1276
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: Look that's all I expected ever see the Miss Kelly

1277
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Roman Top of Ariola really did it for me. It's like,

1278
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It felt like I was

1279
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: taking a peek into something that was my greatest fantasy.

1280
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: And so Mia Kopa y'all is a thriller that was

1281
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: directed by the Tyler Perry Child and I will say

1282
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm just glad that Kelly brought her own hair team

1283
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: because normally the taller Perry whigs don't be given, but

1284
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: Kelly was giving her and her office slate.

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Speaker 1: I think her estallas is Colin, who also dresses Cardi

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Speaker 1: B and Victoria Monet.

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Speaker 2: Colin Carter love him down, but no, she's been slaying lately.

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Speaker 2: I really really like how she's been dressed in and

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Speaker 2: she brought all the fashions to it.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: hate was for. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I was in the bed like this, and it could

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Speaker 2: be because I'm so horny and so withdrawn from.

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Speaker 1: Sex and haven't really had that before that. I was

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, this is so great. So

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll get right into the sexual tension actually

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't too much. It wasn't jam packed with sex,

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Speaker 1: but sexual tension can be the sexiest thing sometimes of

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Speaker 1: a scene. Like we're so overloaded on sex from Twitter,

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Speaker 1: ig all that stuff that I think feeling the vibe about,

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Speaker 1: and then they're both so fine like that. Really well,

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Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to start there with sex scenes.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the sex scenes not only in Miacopa,

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Speaker 1: but I want to talk about overall sex scenes that

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Speaker 1: we've seen recently in other films and television series. What

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Speaker 1: were your thoughts on So there's three sex scenes that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to speak about in this So you had

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Speaker 1: there only three? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In this film,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about it. So there was the

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Speaker 1: sex scene. I guess I want to talk with the

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Speaker 1: it is one because this is mormor

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.