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Speaker 1: He's the first Cardinals tight end to make a Pro

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Speaker 1: and now he'll make nineteen million per year. And speaking

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Speaker 1: of first, when it comes to highest paid tight ends

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Speaker 1: in league history, now Trey McBride, well, he's the first

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Speaker 1: name listed and the twenty five year old pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna join us. Yep, you're Trulian Darren Rban because

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Speaker 1: it takes two to fill in for Craig Griolo. It

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Speaker 1: is Cardinals Cover two, episode eight sixty eight, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Who to Baker?

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Speaker 3: What Heart?

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Speaker 4: What rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Five pays it again some more Hurry magic whow here's

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Speaker 1: Paul Kelvic. You know this feels like an All Caps moment,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Trey McBride used on Twitter, and he

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Speaker 1: sent out man with three ends, how we feel in

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Speaker 1: three question marks, Let's go and Darren, I hate to

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Speaker 1: say it but there are three exclamation points as well

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Speaker 1: as someone who's most definitely anti exclamation point, Darren Urban

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Speaker 1: from the Prince Side by the Way Go has one

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Speaker 1: is feeling. How do you think the Red Sea and

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Speaker 1: Bird gang is feeling right now? They just locked up

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Speaker 1: their Pro Bowl tight end through the twenty twenty nine season.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, Paul that if you gave me

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Speaker 4: three exclamation.

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Speaker 1: You would come off your convictions, your anti exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: Some things are just bigger interesting. They're just bigger thing

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Speaker 1: so you can be bought when it comes to punctuations.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell yes, interesting, Okay, Trey McBride. You know it's

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Speaker 5: Right, just too, Paul, Let's clarify.

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Speaker 1: When we get a rookie three years ago, like Trey McBride,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of an NFL graduation, is it not? To

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Speaker 1: Only twenty nine catches a guy who was minimized out

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Speaker 4: And basically, as you just kind of explained, that's all

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Speaker 4: I think it definitely feels. I mean, I remember I

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Speaker 4: I mean, if it wasn't for Trede McBride, we'd be

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Speaker 4: He's now the highest paid tight end in NFL history

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Speaker 4: and he deserves it. And like you said, when you

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Speaker 1: I saw it was a Q Shipley and the Pat

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Speaker 1: And he's such a nice guy, you know, from a

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Speaker 1: Trey McBride feel, Well, we had a chance to have

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Speaker 1: we'd introduce you as Trey McBride or maybe Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: What's this week been like for you?

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Speaker 3: Just a whirlwind? You know. I was just knew this

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Speaker 4: I'm curious, Trey, when you're an athlete in this position.

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Speaker 1: So we joke that when you go to tight end

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Speaker 1: But at this point you can buy tight end you.

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Speaker 1: How much of it has been a matter of confidence?

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Speaker 4: What what's the next thing for Trey McBride football wise, Like,

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Speaker 3: He's like, this is obviously, this is great, but this

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Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to stay and be a

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Speaker 1: How many people have you heard from what's your phone been?

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Speaker 4: I know, obviously you mentioned you were golfing yesterday, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just another day. Obviously, this is a great deal.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows who you are. Now there's no hiding, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's no sneaking under the radar anymore. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the challenge. I'm excited for everything. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: One of your biggest fans is your tight end coach

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Speaker 1: slow receiver. So what do you tell your position coach? Now?

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Speaker 1: I mean, does this change you at all? Traded to me,

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Speaker 3: Come on now now, I'm gonna do exactly what I've

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Speaker 3: been doing. Man, I think that blocking really does help

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Speaker 3: But that is a funny quote. I did like that one.

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Speaker 5: Wolf.

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Speaker 3: We'll be proud of that. So we'll keep our hand

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Speaker 1: Still are you?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 4: And we again, it's only been in a couple of years,

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Speaker 4: And we're on the second contract now, you're no longer

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a that's the next step, right,

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Speaker 4: But I was gonna say before I forget you were

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You would think so, man, But actually I played

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Speaker 3: But it was a lot of fun. Zavian was just

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Speaker 1: Here's my last question. The defensive attention you've seen from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much more. You're getting chipped at the line,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the thrill of that, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: You might be the only guy who's not a fan

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Speaker 3: A lot, man, A lot of people do. But it's like,

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Speaker 4: Well, we're very excited to have you back. I know

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Speaker 3: I'm just so excited to be back here to play

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Speaker 4: Well, we had it was there was a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: It might have been your story, your feature on Trey

437
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Speaker 1: McBride along with his brother. I do remember a quote

438
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Speaker 1: where his brother said, you know what, you know, Trey's

439
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 1: not the biggest dude in the NFL, but his hand

440
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 1: eye coordination is athleticis is off the charts. And if

441
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 1: you go back to like his high school career, he

442
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 1: set records for home runs. He was an unbelievable basketball player.

443
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Speaker 1: You heard him talking about the golf game was Zavi

444
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 1: and Collins. I'm sure he's a stick. He can really

445
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 1: swing it in golf. I mean, he's just a ridiculous athlete.

446
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,919
Speaker 1: And the moment, and I'm telling you the moment we

447
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: saw him in the first Cardinals rookie mini camp right

448
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,719
Speaker 1: after the draft twenty twenty two, you could tell immediately

449
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,959
Speaker 1: how easily he caught the ball. He's a complete natural

450
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: in catching the ball, and to this very day he

451
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Speaker 1: still has the best hands on the team.

452
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to name names, Paul, because I'm better

453
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 4: than that. However, you and I have both been around

454
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 4: a number of pass catchers that the Cardinals have had

455
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 4: over the years, many of them not for as long

456
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 4: as they should have been, that were not that they

457
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 4: fought the football, and you can you absolutely can tell

458
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 4: out of everything he does well. And we can talk

459
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 4: about the hurdling and the running over people and the

460
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 4: run after catch and the blocking or whatever. There is

461
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Speaker 4: no question. I don't want I don't want to get

462
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Speaker 4: sacrilege here. I don't want to get sacrilege here. But

463
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean, was fit appreciably better at that than Trey

464
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Speaker 4: McBride is.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, Okay, I mean we might have

466
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Speaker 1: to pause here. I I think you're putting Trey McBride's

467
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Speaker 1: hands in the same category, the same caliber as Larry Fitzgerald.

468
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Speaker 1: I have to think about that.

469
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Speaker 4: For I mean, maybe we need a bigger sample size.

470
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Speaker 4: He's only been in the league three years. I love

471
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Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald. I will swear to God all the time

472
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Speaker 4: that he is a top three all time receiver. But

473
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Speaker 4: it's just with the catching part. It is pretty Trey

474
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Speaker 4: McBride is pretty good.

475
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Speaker 1: Right now, bird Gang red Cea is out there and

476
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Speaker 1: saying you blasphemale Cardinal's cover too comparing to anybody's hands.

477
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Speaker 5: Fits would hear this SoundBite and totally give me all

478
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Speaker 5: kinds of crap.

479
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Speaker 1: They do have one thing in common though, when they

480
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Speaker 1: don't make a catch.

481
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Speaker 5: The rich.

482
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Speaker 1: A good one.

483
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Speaker 5: Sorry, that is in common.

484
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I have to adjust my lineup. Sorry, yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: I know I have to put you know, okay, you know, yes,

486
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Speaker 1: we have to put Trey McBride into the Larry tax bracket. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: you're right, okay. But now in terms of the hands,

488
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Speaker 1: the one thing they do have in common, and that

489
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Speaker 1: category is that when they don't make a catch, they're

490
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Speaker 1: really hard on themselves. Yes, and it doesn't matter how

491
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Speaker 1: far off line the ball is, how ridiculously difficult. I mean,

492
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Speaker 1: we've both seen it. There have been times where you know,

493
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Speaker 1: he'll have eleven catches on twelve targets and he still

494
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: ticked off. He didn't he didn't go twelve for twelve,

495
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Speaker 1: even though it was ridiculously difficult catch in traffic.

496
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Speaker 4: The best example of that was the last Rams game

497
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Speaker 4: where he had a fantastic game.

498
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and the ball was up on him a

499
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Speaker 5: little high and it hit off a hillman.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

501
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Speaker 4: And that's all he could talk about was that. And again,

502
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride, being who he is.

503
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Speaker 5: He was in the locker room talking about it after

504
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Speaker 5: the game.

505
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Speaker 1: He was he met the meeting and the great ones,

506
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: the great ones, the all time best. They tend to

507
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: remember the plays they didn't yes in any sport, in

508
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: any arena. I mean, you want blasphemy, I'm going to

509
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: go all the way back to Tiger Woods. I was

510
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: a young reporter. Tiger Woods was playing in the Western

511
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: Pro Am, was a national proram turning. He's still in

512
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Speaker 1: high school, and we're falling along because he was already

513
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods to a certain degree. He lipped out a

514
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: thirty foot putt and he threw a temper tantrum on

515
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Speaker 1: the side of the green. He expected himself to drop

516
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: a thirty foot putt. But that's the sort of expectations

517
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Speaker 1: you have when you're an all time great. Now here's

518
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Speaker 1: the question, because we asked him about it here. He

519
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: was asked about it in the press conference. He's aged

520
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Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean, they've locked up a guy who

521
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: hasn't even entered his prime yet. And if you want

522
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Speaker 1: to hit zoom out on this whole front office, I mean,

523
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Speaker 1: I don't want to name names myself, but there's a

524
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: certain team the Cardinals will travel and play that used

525
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Speaker 1: to be in their division in the NFC East, the

526
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: most valuable team in pro sports, who for some reason

527
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Speaker 1: waits and waits for a market to be reset and

528
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Speaker 1: reset again before they extend a player that's not many

529
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Speaker 1: Austin for it. I mean, he's getting ahead of the curve,

530
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Speaker 1: he's getting in the boom. James Connor, Dunn, Buddha Baker done,

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Speaker 1: you know, Trey McBride done before A it's a distraction

532
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Speaker 1: and B you know what makes economic sense for both

533
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Speaker 1: sides before one side has the entirety of the leverage.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the reality is is we're going to talk

535
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Speaker 4: about him being the highest paid tight end for a

536
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: lot of time up until the forty nine ers extend

537
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Speaker 4: George Kittle, which they probably will, and now George.

538
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: Kem More, it's more blood letting with the forty nine ers.

539
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: They have to let him go.

540
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Speaker 4: Who knows well, whatever they can do, whatever the heck

541
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Speaker 4: they want. Sure, we don't really care.

542
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Speaker 1: Maybe until brock Bauers gets gets paid. I don't know

543
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Speaker 1: at this point.

544
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Speaker 5: But I mean, again, these are these are fruitful times.

545
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Speaker 4: For your Arizona Cardinals. I mean, they have a pretty

546
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: good free agency class. They bringing Josh Sweat and Dalvin Tomlinson.

547
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: We get the news about Klais Campbell last week, which

548
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: you know helps them obviously on the football field, but

549
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Speaker 4: I think it helps them holistically overall, maybe even more.

550
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: Uh and and bring some really good vibes. Now you

551
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 4: get this this extension done. And and make no mistake,

552
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 4: this was an extension not of if. It was an

553
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Speaker 4: extension of when. And as you heard Trade just say

554
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Speaker 4: to us a little while ago, it was he didn't

555
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Speaker 4: know if it was going to be now or during

556
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Speaker 4: OTAs or during training camp, but it was gonna get done.

557
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Speaker 5: We all knew this.

558
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: But but to get it done now, like I had

559
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Speaker 4: already had fans going, okay, why is it taking us long?

560
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, come on, like, what are we what

561
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Speaker 4: are we doing here? It's it's gonna get done. But

562
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Speaker 4: to get it done now, I think is a big deal, uh,

563
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Speaker 4: to make everybody feel really good going.

564
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Speaker 5: Into these OTAs.

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Speaker 4: I did think it was interesting despite the when versus

566
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Speaker 4: if question, knowing it was just to when Tray still

567
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: told us he didn't want to have to think about

568
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: it anymore, and he's glad he doesn't have to. And

569
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Speaker 4: I think that's interesting. It's not like Trey McBride doesn't

570
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 4: already have a little bit of money in the bank.

571
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Speaker 4: I mean it was one like he was like worried

572
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Speaker 4: about rent before this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, his salary, according to this report right here,

574
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Speaker 1: will go from five point eight million to nineteen million

575
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Speaker 1: per year starting in twenty seven. I mean again, maybe

576
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Speaker 1: it's an extension, maybe.

577
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Speaker 5: Four explanation points.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, you know, at least you know, MANI

579
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Speaker 1: asin Ford in the front office, right and they're working

580
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: the books in there. They want certainty, unlike ourn economy

581
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: as a whole, they want certainty and now and now

582
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Speaker 1: you have certainty. That was really the last big question

583
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Speaker 1: mark in terms of the finance. Yes, so now okay,

584
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Speaker 1: you have certainty. So now you're all right, what are

585
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Speaker 1: we going to do in the draft? What might we

586
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Speaker 1: still do in free agency?

587
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Speaker 4: Which I think at this point, to me, Kalais was

588
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Speaker 4: the last piece there. And now at this point, it's

589
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Speaker 4: let's wait till the draft.

590
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Speaker 5: Let's see what we.

591
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Speaker 4: End up in the draft. I mean, Paul, right now,

592
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 4: they already have seventy nine guys on the roster. Really, now,

593
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: you don't have to keep them all. If they end

594
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: up with more than that, then you can cut one

595
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 4: or two. But they only need eleven more players to

596
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: fill out or no, it's twelve because Psychowitz is an exemption. Yep,

597
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: they only need twelve more players. So you figure six

598
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Speaker 4: draft picks if they don't trade back, and then six

599
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Speaker 4: undrafted rookies. I'm like, you don't need to do anything

600
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Speaker 4: really at this So I think you wait, you see

601
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Speaker 4: what happens draft weekend, You see maybe some guys in

602
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: the OTAs for a week or two that you haven't

603
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: seen on the grass yet, and decide, Okay, this guy

604
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: ain't gonna work at all.

605
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Speaker 5: Let's sign somebody else. That all might happen.

606
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Speaker 4: But I think now we're definitely now in the MANI

607
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Speaker 4: took care of the extension, he took care of free agency.

608
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Speaker 4: Now let's totally hone in on the draft. In a

609
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Speaker 4: couple weeks and then see where we.

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Speaker 1: Are those seventy nine players, how many are d linemans

611
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Speaker 1: seventy one?

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you we both think d line is still

613
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Speaker 4: going to be a pick in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Whoa wait a minute, now, don't think that. No, not

615
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: at this point, not after kalais Really they're not going

616
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: d line at sixteen overall?

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Speaker 4: Okay, just saying, well, but they'll still do it somewhere

618
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Speaker 4: in the draft, right, you're still hesitant on that.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is a deep enough draft. Maybe maybe

620
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Speaker 1: in round three, maybe i'd say the powerpol of likelihood,

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Speaker 1: position by position, thanks for asking, Darren, I would say,

622
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Speaker 1: O line, yes, so let's be more specific. Guard yes, edge, tackle, yes,

623
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Speaker 1: d tackle okay, wide, Oh wait, I forgot about corner,

624
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Speaker 1: all right? Strike that number one would be guard, Number

625
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Speaker 1: two would be edge, Number three would be corner, Number

626
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Speaker 1: four would be tackle, Number five would be d line,

627
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Speaker 1: and then number six will be wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the way he backed up on that,

629
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Speaker 4: Omo like, can we get that old Steve Art and

630
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: Saturday Live Christmas thing where he goes If I had all,

631
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Speaker 4: my one wish for Christmas would be this.

632
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, wait, first, I would wish for a

633
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 5: million dollars, then I would wish for peace on earth.

634
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I want Danny surrec attention. Danny Darren was

635
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: the one who made a reference to Steve Martin circa

636
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Not yours truly.

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Speaker 5: First of all, that was like in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Number one, all right, once again, the story is about

639
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Trey McBride's not around in the eighties, Trey mcpaid and

640
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Speaker 1: the fact that exclamation points, even Darren agrees are appropriate

641
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Speaker 1: and fitting for this occasion. That'll do it for Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: Cover two,