WEBVTT - Sachertorte: Just Desserts 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:10.719 Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.040 I'm any Reo and I'm more in Vogelbaum and today 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.320 we have an episode for you about soccer. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:21.560 Tour it, yes, which I had not heard of. Okay, 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.520 I told you promised me there was legal drama and 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.240 I was in one hundred thousand percent. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.480 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. The history section is interesting, right. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:39.639 So I chose this one because it is a dessert 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.080 that my dad, who was a chef for cook or 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.960 whatever you want to call someone who smokes too many 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.280 cigarettes outside of kitchens, used to make her special occasions 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.680 and it's really fussy. He got to really show off 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.800 the fact that he can in fact do pastry. And 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.440 so yeah, I have very fond memories of it, and 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.920 if a cafe in fact has a slice for sale, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.080 I will usually purchase it. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.520 Oh, it seems like a lot of people have a 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.840 lot of fond memories of it. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.120 Yeah. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.759 Strong opinion and strong opinions. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.160 Yeah, I read a lot of strong, kind of negative 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.039 opinions about it. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:26.240 Yeah, but we'll talk a little bit more about we will. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.560 But yes, any I would say any of the past 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.840 pastry episodes we've done, Yeah. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.760 Chocolate in general, maybe uh, maca wrong and madalins have 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.600 we We've ve done madelines right, Yeah. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.200 Stuff like that. I think so. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.160 I feel like I researched the science of the bumps. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:53.360 So here we are. Yeah, yes, well, okay, that brings 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:54.600 us to your question. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.360 Sure, soccer. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:01.640 What is it? Well? 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.640 Soccer torte is a type of layer cake made usually 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.760 with two layers of chocolate sponge, with a thin spread 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.520 of apricot jam on top and or in between the layers, 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.000 and then a melted chocolate glaze in robing the cake. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.560 The sponge is traditionally a little on the thin side, 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.080 only like an inchish tall per layer, say up to 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.120 like four centimeters or so, soft and slightly dry in 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.720 texture and not too sweet. You're looking to let the 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.560 chocolate and the cake shine. And it is made with 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.600 melted chocolate folded into the batter, not with cocoa. The 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.280 apricot jam adds some sweetness and brightness, and the glaze 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:44.000 adds some moisture, and just like a real depth of chocolate. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.840 This is an intense and bitter sweet cake that's like 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.000 fairly simple on the edge of it, but kind of 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.680 finicky to make, and so well balanced in terms of 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.000 flavor and texture. When it's done right, it's served as 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.320 a snack or a dessert, often with a dollup of 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.760 whipped cream and a cup of coffee. As far as 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.760 decadent desserts go, it feels sort of like stern and 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:16.679 and proper eating. Eating a slice feels like like when 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.760 you put on formal wear and it's maybe a little 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.720 old fashioned and stiff, but you just feel that it's good, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.520 like from your from your skin to your bones. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.680 Mm hmm. I uh, I used to love. I still 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.240 love my dad's old jackets game to me. Oh other 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.880 you know, old fashioned jackets, but one you know that 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:45.520 feeling when you reach in the pocket you find twenty dollars. Yeah, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.760 like you look cool. Yeah, old fashion jacket. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.080 Uh huh. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.760 That's the vibe you're given to me right here, Lauren. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:03:58.840 Uh. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.920 So you you obtain the specific texture of a soccer 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.400 toort without the use of chemical leveners, but rather the 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.320 old fashioned way with some elbow grease. The batter involves 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.600 creaming butter and sugar together until fluffy and light in color. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.120 You're working air into the mix. You then add your 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.359 egg yolks and melted chocolate to this. Then separately you 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.320 whip the egg whites until they're fluffy, gently fold them in, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.000 and then fold in the flour. And all of this 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.360 provides like a soft structure to the cake. You're going 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:36.160 for tender, not springy or chewy. And that method is 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.239 a method different pastry humans have variations on it. As always, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:46.200 I cannot tell you what to do, no, nope, nope, nope. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.920 The bit of whip cream on the side is important, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.679 and you are advised by professionals to dip each bite 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.800 of cake into the whipped cream. This can help with 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.960 the Yeah, just with with texture a little bit. There 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.719 are iterations with different seasonings added, like a vanilla or cinnamon, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.000 maybe some almond flour or hazelnut flour added to the 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.440 wheat flour, or other additions like a layer of marzapan 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.720 or some rum syrup or kerse syrup poured over the layers. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.320 Different kinds of chocolate in the mix, different numbers of layers. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.960 I've seen the glaze as just chocolate plus sugar or 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.479 chocolate plus butter. Personally, I like a chocolate ganache, which 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:33.480 is chocolate plus cream. But yeah, you do you. There 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:39.359 are two particularly famous cafes that produce soccer torten in Vienna, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.760 which is where this pastry is from, Hotel Soccer and Dmel, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.960 but you can find them basically anywhere else in the city. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.000 Cafe culture in Vienna is a serious thing. In fact, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.839 it is inscribed in the UNESCO List of Intangible Cultural 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:00.760 Heritage as of twenty eleven. And yeah, some people do 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.080 find the cake a little bit dry or plain. Hotel 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.800 Soccer addresses this on their website. I quote. There will 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.760 always be critics, of course, and some found the original 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.680 soccer tourte rather plain. After all, more lavish creations existed. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.880 The simple truth, however, is that simplicity is the heart 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.760 of greatness in our modern world. Compared to other cultural classics, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.719 it has more of an affinity to Bauhaus than to Brooke, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.680 which is the nerdiest sentence about a cake. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.720 That's fantastic and I love. They put it on their website. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:43.240 Yes, they're like, look, it's like. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.279 Fa you, I've found your cake a little dry. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.080 Look y'all, haters, how about you get some class. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:07:00.400 It's fantastic? Well, what about the nutrition treats? A nice treating? 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:05.560 Nice treats are nice. Well, we do have some numbers 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:05.880 for you. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.120 We do, okay, So December fifth is Soccer Tourte Day. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.880 I'm not sure where I read National Soccer tourt Day, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.760 but on a number of different websites from different places. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.560 Maybe it's an International Soccer tourt Day. Maybe it can 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.800 be soccer tot day every day. It's up to it's 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:32.280 up to you. The world record for the largest soccer 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.720 torte was achieved in Slovenia for their Vienna Festival sometime 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.840 after nineteen ninety eight. I believe by the folks from 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:44.240 Hotel Soccer. If so, they did beat their previous record 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:49.160 and this bigger cake was three and a half meters 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.520 in diameter. That's that's about eleven and a half feet. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:54.840 Oh my goodness. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:08:00.760 Yeah yeah. I will also say that one of the 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.160 former owners of the hotel had a fifteen layer soccer 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.200 tourt made for his first wedding in the nineteen seventies. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.800 Who oh my. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.800 Seems structurally unsound to me, but I'm sure that they 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:17.440 pulled it off. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.280 Dresses me out a little bit just hearing about it, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.520 but well, I bet it was lovely. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:29.360 Around the mid twenty teens, Hotel Soccer was producing about 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.400 three hundred and sixty thousand soccer tourton a year for 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.160 visitors and or for shipping around the world. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:37.520 Both. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.600 Yeah. The employee about three hundred and sixty people, with 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:47.960 around fifty devoted just to soccer Tourton. Apparently one assistant 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.640 in the kitchen has the job of just cracking eggs 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.720 and they do about seven thousand, five hundred a day, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.480 which sounds like some kitchen hazing to me snalling. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.839 Oh oh no. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:12.120 I hope, I hope they spread that out, especially because 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.760 during the winter holiday season that increases up to twenty 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:25.160 one thousand eggs per day. Nope, nope, you can as 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.720 of this current moment, purchase one online from Hotel Soccer 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.760 for eighty four euros including tax and shipping. That's for 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.920 a nine slice cake. Yeah. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:37.800 Yes. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.360 Arrival Pastry Cafe de Mel was making about sixty eight 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:47.200 thousand cakes and employed around one hundred people at the 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.800 same time in like the mid twenty teens. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:58.000 Yes, and they've got quite the rivalry they do. Oh 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:58.720 my goodness. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.920 And we are going to get into that as soon 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.520 as we get back from a quick break. For a 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:13.960 word from our sponsors. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:14.840 And we're back. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.520 Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:22.640 Okay. So the origin story of soccer tourte sounds very 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.280 similar to those of other pastries like this that we've 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:31.920 told in previous episodes. So here's the popular told legend. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.440 In eighteen thirty two in Vienna, Prince Cimonte Vincel von 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.319 Metternique of Austria was hosting some guest that he wanted 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.280 to impress. To that end, he was really pushing for 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.960 this excellent dessert to end the meal. Allegedly, he said 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:53.280 he hoped the dessert would not disgrace him. In some 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.120 retellings of the story, the prince demanded that the kitchen 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.760 staff create a brand new cake, and in some versions 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.400 of the story this was not unusual for him. He 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:06.480 was always like make something new. Unfortunately, the court's chef 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.920 was ill, so the task fell to his apprentice. Sixteen 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.960 year old Franz Soccer Soccer rose to the task and, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.160 with the ingredients available to him, created soccer Retort. It 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.719 was such a hit that it soon spread outside of 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.520 the court and throughout Vienna, and the success allowed Franz 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.960 to run a handful of restaurants and cafes or did it. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:35.440 According to an Austrian article I found in Google translated caveat. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.079 While people liked the dessert, it didn't really take off 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.120 at first. Instead, Franz opened to delicatessen and wine shop 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.720 in Vienna in eighteen forty eight, where he sold what 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.080 he called Franz Soccer's chocolate cake. It became really popular 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.440 for the locals and was one of his best selling items, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.880 but it was local. It wasn't until his eldest son, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:03.360 Eduard that things changed. Speaking of some give more credit 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.479 to Franz's son Edward, who refined the recipe while apprenticing 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:13.719 at a confectionery called Demel in Vienna. D Mel had 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.319 been operating since seventeen eighty six. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.800 It was a popular shop. It was appointed a royal 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.320 purveyor of suites early on in its existence, and also 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.080 was the sole supplier to the very fancy burg theater nearby, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.400 and has continued to be pretty posh over a number 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.120 of like dramatic ownership changes over the years. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:41.520 In eighteen seventy six, Edward opened Hotel Soccer, and Soccer 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.120 Torte was featured on the hotel's menu. From there, the 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.920 dessert really took off in the city of Vienna, with 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.400 various restaurants and cafes coming up with their own variations. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.240 Probably important to note here. Before the eighteen fifties, women 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:01.599 weren't permitted in cafes around Vienna, but as that changed, coffeehouse, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.080 literary and political culture really started taking off. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.440 Yes, and according to some sources, after Edward's death, his 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:15.360 widow on a soccer, became manager of the hotel and 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.680 went on to really elevate it to this posh destination 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.760 that attracted celebrities and diplomats. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.640 She was known for being I loved reading about her. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.280 She was known for being like a really like bold lady, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.160 and for smoking cigars and having like a number of 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.400 French bulldogs around her at any given time. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.000 Yeah, she had kind of a persona legend around her. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.480 Yeah. Her local nickname was the Queen of Vienna. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:45.560 So Yes. In an eighteen eighty eight letter to the editor, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.800 Edward claimed that soccer tourte were fairly common in most 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.680 major Austrian cities. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.040 Okay, so this was published in one of the big 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:01.040 local newspapers, and what had happened was on a previous 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:07.200 article published in this newspaper about famous Viennese cuisine, soccer 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:13.800 tort had not been mentioned, no, and and he was mad. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.199 He was so upset. He yeah, so he wrote and 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.000 he was like, I'm sorry, this is like a really 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.240 big thing actually, and added that it was on the 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:31.560 Imperial Family's everyday menu and that he personally sold four 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.840 hundred a day locally and shipped. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:40.880 So yeah, sounds about right. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.960 Also, apparently Sick and Freud often dined at Hotel Soccer 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.080 and was particularly fond of soccer tourt. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:57.320 Okay, this brings us to the legal drama, because with 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:03.560 great popularity comes great legal drama. Usual, yes, and in 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.560 this case, particularly over the term original soccer tourte. Both 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.800 Dmel and Hotel Soccer claimed to have been at the 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:17.160 birthplace of the original soccer torte, and both wanted sole 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.479 use of original when it came to describing their products. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.000 Demel claimed that Soccer honed in on the recipe while 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.720 working at their cafe. Not only that, after his father's death, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.840 son Edward Junior, not the same one we've been talking about, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:38.480 sold the recipe for soccer Tourte to DMO due to 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.960 financial troubles, so Demel owned the recipe, though potentially they 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.720 already had it if Edward Senior really did refine the 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:52.960 recipe there, Hotel Soccer claimed, Actually it was refined at 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:58.440 the hotel, and the hotel's namesake, Soccer was the family 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:05.440 that invented it. There were also disputes about proportions and methods. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.000 It was this whole thing. Some publications dubbed this the 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:16.080 cake or and what a war it was. We're kind 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.000 of condensing this. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.240 It was a lot. 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:25.040 It was a protracted battle. In the nineteen fifties, these 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.360 two places went to court and waged a years long 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.800 roller coaster of a legal battle that was eventually settled 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.160 out of court. In nineteen sixty three, Hotel Soccer got 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:40.960 to use the label original with two layers of apricot jam, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.000 while d Mel was permitted to sell Edward Soccer Torts 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.320 or DMO Soccer Torts with one layer. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.640 Of an apricot jam. Yeah, so to this day both 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.760 shops place a little chocolate medallion atop each slice of 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.560 tort or each cake if they're selling the whole cake. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:06.560 Hotel Soccers says Hotel Soccer Original, and Demel's says Eduard 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:11.879 Soccer torte product of Christoph Dmel's Sons, which was the 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.920 official official name of the cafe at the time. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.000 So gotta love it. In some ways, you've gotta love it. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.399 Oh yeah. Uh. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:26.200 And going back to kind of the stuffy response from 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:31.560 the website about you think it's dry, they also have 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.080 a an article you can read where they talk about 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:39.080 how this means that Hotel Soccer cannot change their recipe 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:46.159 or they lose that original. Yeah. Yes, so they were like, 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.840 you know, in some ways we can't innovate, but also 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:55.639 were the original and they really have benefited from name recognition. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:01.639 Dmel isn't doing poorly by any means. Hotel Soccer really 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:06.200 has built a brand. Yeah. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.920 Yeah. By the nineteen eighties they were shipping one hundred 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.720 thousand soccer tourt in a year. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.440 Jumping ahead a little bit, when Austria was sanctioned by 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.480 the EU in two thousand, after a far right party 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.640 joined the Austrian government, they tried to smooth things over 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:32.120 by sending Vienna's foreign minister to an EU summit equipped 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:37.520 with a huge soccer retort. I don't think this is why, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.360 but the sanctions were dropped soon after that. I don't 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.919 think it was no no, but it might have helped. 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:48.840 I mean, you know, yeah, Hotel Soccer started an online 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.040 shop for purchasing their cakes relatively early in the internet 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:57.080 shipping days in two thousand and five. Also about the 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.120 one versus two layers of apricot jam that are allowed 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.880 in the cakes as of that legal decision. This one 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.879 article that I read, which was originally published in twenty eighteen, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.920 included at the top important update February twenty twenty one. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.760 Please note that since the original publication of this article, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.920 Damel has updated their soccer torte recipe to include a 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:27.800 jam layer in the middle. Emphasis theirs that was there. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:35.199 That was the original bold face on the web page. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.080 I mean, huge legal news, you know. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.520 Yeah. To this day, Hotel Soccer keeps the recipe locked 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.800 in a safe and the few employees who know it 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.520 have to sign confidentiality agreements. They do offer an approximation 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:57.960 of the recipe online. So but obviously there's a few 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.879 things they keep close to the chess. I think it 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.159 might have to do with the exact types of chocolate 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.880 that they put in the in the cake and then 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:12.240 on the coating. Anyway, I think that's everything that we 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:17.440 really have to say about soccer tort. I do want 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:22.240 to include here a shout out to the Cadbury Recipe 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.840 Blog of all places, for really getting the Billy Joel 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.720 song Vienna stuck in my head for the past week 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:34.160 or so. I wasn't expecting it from Cadbury, but here 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:34.640 we are. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:40.920 It's amazing how often we get songs stuck in her 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:49.960 head from this this show. Oh yeah, well, the best 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:50.639 of luck, Lauren. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.240 Thanks. I like Billy Cholls, so it's okay. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.560 Yes, but even an artist you like sometimes I get 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:00.280 stuck in your head. 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.920 It can be the ear where them is. Yeah, I can, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.080 I can, you can. But oh man, if any of 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.000 y'all have if you've been to either of these cafes, 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.239 if you have made a soccer toort, if you have 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.080 strong opinions about how it's a crap cake. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.040 Or I mean, we didn't really get into it, but 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.800 you could get all kinds people really are innovating with it. 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.240 No, yeah, these two cafes are sort of like they're 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.960 pretty locked in. Yeah, this is what. 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.440 It is, but I know all kinds of things happen, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:34.879 so yeah, please let us know. 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.840 Yeah, we do already have some listener mail for you, though, 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.439 and we are going to get into that as soon 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.119 as we get back from one more quick break for 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:44.800 a word from our sponsors. 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.680 And we're back. Thank you, sponsors, Yes, thank you, and 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:09.560 we're back with Snow George and going up, coming down. 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:11.480 It's this legal battle. 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.960 Oh yeah, oh wow. Yeah yeah. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:15.320 Listen. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.640 That is a hammer of justice right there, if you. 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.400 Want to look it up. Listeners, they went through this 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:26.040 whole back and forth for years. It's really entertaining to me. 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:31.640 But yeah, the family drama behind both of those places 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.120 is also quite intense. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:38.560 So yes, it is, it is, but all right. In 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.280 the meantime, we do have some listener mail for you, yes, 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:46.919 starting with Jacob. Jacob wrote, so catching up on a 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.159 backlock of episodes and listening to the Doritos episode and 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:54.360 the discussion of a lady Dorito's being cleaner and quieter. 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.320 Except it isn't a thing, but if it was, I'd 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:02.679 like to suggest a better name. The Discreto all the 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:06.679 flavor blast, but just for you, if they don't know, 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.240 you don't have to share. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.720 Oh my gosh, the Discreto. 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.800 Yeah yeah, I could see that. I mean, I'm both 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.080 horrified and tickled that I can see this commercial in 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:22.920 my head. 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.840 Oh yeah. But also that's a great tagline like if 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:31.240 they don't know, you don't have to share. Uh yeah, yeah, 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.600 that's this is a perfect This is a Dorito's called 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:36.680 Jacob right now. 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.280 Remember all that flak you got for lady Doritos here 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.119 was your issue? Yeah, it should have been the discreto. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.720 It's a slight pivot in there. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:52.640 It is exactly exactly. I love it. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:24:01.280 Oh no, okay. H l Eric wrote about the Sunday classic. 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.960 Enjoy revisiting a classic. Sundays are enjoyable, and I agree 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.159 that you need a sauce of some sort in addition 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.520 to another topping like nuts or something with texture. I'll 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.680 let them argue out who invented it as long as 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.440 we still get to enjoy them. I love kalamada olives 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:20.520 just as a straight up snack or when used in 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.800 different meals for snacking while pitted are easier. I think 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.120 I enjoy having them with pits as I slow down 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.080 and enjoy them more, and I think they have just 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.600 a touch more flavor. I also love seeing them used 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.920 in different ways. If you have a place that does 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:37.000 those small, thin wood fired pizzas, get one with some kalamada, 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.160 arugula and a bit of proscudo. I also enjoy taking 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.080 about a cup of them. Throw about three quarters into 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.320 a food processor. Yes, any a food processor, so you 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.199 probably won't make this with a clover two of garlic 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.600 and a little olive oil and make a sort of patae. 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.520 Chop up the other quarter along with a few cherry 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.680 peppers and mix together. Spread that on toasted baguette with 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.360 a little sharp cheese of choice, and enjoy. Mix them 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.040 into a pikasha before baking, along with a few on top, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.480 chop into a salad, etc. They are just such wonderful 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.800 olives to use. I always enjoyed thinking of things they 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:14.280 can be put into. The Taiyaki episode just really drives 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.120 home how much I want to visit Japan and try 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.840 the different foods there. I don't know anyone around our 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.439 area making them, so the cravings are just going to 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.359 go unsatisfied for now. I loved hearing about the different 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.760 ways that people say to hold and eat them opinions right. 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.399 The Southern Cafeteria episode was interesting. The only one I 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.920 knew of offhand was Love's. 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:34.840 Was it Luby's? 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:36.480 Heck? I think it was lovees and I've only ever 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.560 been once. It was enjoyable. I like the idea of it, 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:40.879 and we'll have to see if I can find one 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.760 of the others the next time I head south. I 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.880 second Nova's nomination for a Stroup waffle episode. I really 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.440 enjoy them when it's colder out. Just a nice comforting 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.719 cookie to have with a cup of hot tea or cocoa. 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.760 And Janet's Lamington pizzas sounded good. I definitely want to 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.560 give that a taste. I love hearing about food combination 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:05.560 successful or not, as they tell a story. 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.760 I do too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, what people are 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:11.320 getting up to? 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.919 Right, I'm like, I wouldn't have thought to put that together. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:15.120 How is it? 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:15.680