1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm any Reo and I'm more in Vogelbaum and today 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: we have an episode for you about soccer. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Tour it, yes, which I had not heard of. Okay, 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: I told you promised me there was legal drama and 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I was in one hundred thousand percent. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. The history section is interesting, right. 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: So I chose this one because it is a dessert 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: that my dad, who was a chef for cook or 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call someone who smokes too many 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: cigarettes outside of kitchens, used to make her special occasions 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: and it's really fussy. He got to really show off 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: the fact that he can in fact do pastry. And 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: so yeah, I have very fond memories of it, and 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: if a cafe in fact has a slice for sale, 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: I will usually purchase it. 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh, it seems like a lot of people have a 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: lot of fond memories of it. 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: Strong opinion and strong opinions. 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I read a lot of strong, kind of negative 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: opinions about it. 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll talk a little bit more about we will. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: But yes, any I would say any of the past 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: pastry episodes we've done, Yeah. 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Chocolate in general, maybe uh, maca wrong and madalins have 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: we We've ve done madelines right, Yeah. 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Stuff like that. I think so. 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I researched the science of the bumps. 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: So here we are. Yeah, yes, well, okay, that brings 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: us to your question. 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Sure, soccer. 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: What is it? Well? 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: Soccer torte is a type of layer cake made usually 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: with two layers of chocolate sponge, with a thin spread 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: of apricot jam on top and or in between the layers, 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: and then a melted chocolate glaze in robing the cake. 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: The sponge is traditionally a little on the thin side, 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: only like an inchish tall per layer, say up to 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: like four centimeters or so, soft and slightly dry in 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: texture and not too sweet. You're looking to let the 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: chocolate and the cake shine. And it is made with 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: melted chocolate folded into the batter, not with cocoa. The 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: apricot jam adds some sweetness and brightness, and the glaze 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: adds some moisture, and just like a real depth of chocolate. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: This is an intense and bitter sweet cake that's like 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: fairly simple on the edge of it, but kind of 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: finicky to make, and so well balanced in terms of 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: flavor and texture. When it's done right, it's served as 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: a snack or a dessert, often with a dollup of 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: whipped cream and a cup of coffee. As far as 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: decadent desserts go, it feels sort of like stern and 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: and proper eating. Eating a slice feels like like when 54 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: you put on formal wear and it's maybe a little 55 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: old fashioned and stiff, but you just feel that it's good, 56 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: like from your from your skin to your bones. 57 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I uh, I used to love. I still 58 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: love my dad's old jackets game to me. Oh other 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, old fashioned jackets, but one you know that 60 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: feeling when you reach in the pocket you find twenty dollars. Yeah, 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: like you look cool. Yeah, old fashion jacket. 62 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 63 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: That's the vibe you're given to me right here, Lauren. 64 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: So you you obtain the specific texture of a soccer 67 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: toort without the use of chemical leveners, but rather the 68 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: old fashioned way with some elbow grease. The batter involves 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: creaming butter and sugar together until fluffy and light in color. 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: You're working air into the mix. You then add your 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: egg yolks and melted chocolate to this. Then separately you 72 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: whip the egg whites until they're fluffy, gently fold them in, 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: and then fold in the flour. And all of this 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: provides like a soft structure to the cake. You're going 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: for tender, not springy or chewy. And that method is 76 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: a method different pastry humans have variations on it. As always, 77 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: I cannot tell you what to do, no, nope, nope, nope. 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: The bit of whip cream on the side is important, 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 2: and you are advised by professionals to dip each bite 80 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: of cake into the whipped cream. This can help with 81 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: the Yeah, just with with texture a little bit. There 82 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: are iterations with different seasonings added, like a vanilla or cinnamon, 83 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: maybe some almond flour or hazelnut flour added to the 84 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: wheat flour, or other additions like a layer of marzapan 85 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: or some rum syrup or kerse syrup poured over the layers. 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Different kinds of chocolate in the mix, different numbers of layers. 87 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: I've seen the glaze as just chocolate plus sugar or 88 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: chocolate plus butter. Personally, I like a chocolate ganache, which 89 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: is chocolate plus cream. But yeah, you do you. There 90 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: are two particularly famous cafes that produce soccer torten in Vienna, 91 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: which is where this pastry is from, Hotel Soccer and Dmel, 92 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: but you can find them basically anywhere else in the city. 93 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Cafe culture in Vienna is a serious thing. In fact, 94 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: it is inscribed in the UNESCO List of Intangible Cultural 95 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Heritage as of twenty eleven. And yeah, some people do 96 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: find the cake a little bit dry or plain. Hotel 97 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: Soccer addresses this on their website. I quote. There will 98 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: always be critics, of course, and some found the original 99 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: soccer tourte rather plain. After all, more lavish creations existed. 100 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: The simple truth, however, is that simplicity is the heart 101 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: of greatness in our modern world. Compared to other cultural classics, 102 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: it has more of an affinity to Bauhaus than to Brooke, 103 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: which is the nerdiest sentence about a cake. 104 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: That's fantastic and I love. They put it on their website. 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes, they're like, look, it's like. 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Fa you, I've found your cake a little dry. 107 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: Look y'all, haters, how about you get some class. 108 00:06:51,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: It's fantastic? Well, what about the nutrition treats? A nice treating? 109 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: Nice treats are nice. Well, we do have some numbers 110 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: for you. 111 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: We do, okay, So December fifth is Soccer Tourte Day. 112 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where I read National Soccer tourt Day, 113 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: but on a number of different websites from different places. 114 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: Maybe it's an International Soccer tourt Day. Maybe it can 115 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: be soccer tot day every day. It's up to it's 116 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: up to you. The world record for the largest soccer 117 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: torte was achieved in Slovenia for their Vienna Festival sometime 118 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: after nineteen ninety eight. I believe by the folks from 119 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Hotel Soccer. If so, they did beat their previous record 120 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: and this bigger cake was three and a half meters 121 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: in diameter. That's that's about eleven and a half feet. 122 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 123 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I will also say that one of the 124 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: former owners of the hotel had a fifteen layer soccer 125 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: tourt made for his first wedding in the nineteen seventies. 126 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Who oh my. 127 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: Seems structurally unsound to me, but I'm sure that they 128 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: pulled it off. 129 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Dresses me out a little bit just hearing about it, 130 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: but well, I bet it was lovely. 131 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: Around the mid twenty teens, Hotel Soccer was producing about 132 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty thousand soccer tourton a year for 133 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: visitors and or for shipping around the world. 134 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Both. 135 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. The employee about three hundred and sixty people, with 136 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: around fifty devoted just to soccer Tourton. Apparently one assistant 137 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: in the kitchen has the job of just cracking eggs 138 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: and they do about seven thousand, five hundred a day, 139 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: which sounds like some kitchen hazing to me snalling. 140 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: Oh oh no. 141 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope they spread that out, especially because 142 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: during the winter holiday season that increases up to twenty 143 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: one thousand eggs per day. Nope, nope, you can as 144 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: of this current moment, purchase one online from Hotel Soccer 145 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: for eighty four euros including tax and shipping. That's for 146 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: a nine slice cake. Yeah. 147 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Yes. 148 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Arrival Pastry Cafe de Mel was making about sixty eight 149 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: thousand cakes and employed around one hundred people at the 150 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: same time in like the mid twenty teens. 151 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and they've got quite the rivalry they do. Oh 152 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: my goodness. 153 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: And we are going to get into that as soon 154 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: as we get back from a quick break. For a 155 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: word from our sponsors. 156 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: And we're back. 157 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. 158 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay. So the origin story of soccer tourte sounds very 159 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: similar to those of other pastries like this that we've 160 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: told in previous episodes. So here's the popular told legend. 161 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: In eighteen thirty two in Vienna, Prince Cimonte Vincel von 162 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: Metternique of Austria was hosting some guest that he wanted 163 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: to impress. To that end, he was really pushing for 164 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: this excellent dessert to end the meal. Allegedly, he said 165 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: he hoped the dessert would not disgrace him. In some 166 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: retellings of the story, the prince demanded that the kitchen 167 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: staff create a brand new cake, and in some versions 168 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: of the story this was not unusual for him. He 169 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: was always like make something new. Unfortunately, the court's chef 170 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: was ill, so the task fell to his apprentice. Sixteen 171 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: year old Franz Soccer Soccer rose to the task and, 172 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: with the ingredients available to him, created soccer Retort. It 173 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: was such a hit that it soon spread outside of 174 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the court and throughout Vienna, and the success allowed Franz 175 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: to run a handful of restaurants and cafes or did it. 176 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: According to an Austrian article I found in Google translated caveat. 177 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: While people liked the dessert, it didn't really take off 178 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: at first. Instead, Franz opened to delicatessen and wine shop 179 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: in Vienna in eighteen forty eight, where he sold what 180 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: he called Franz Soccer's chocolate cake. It became really popular 181 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: for the locals and was one of his best selling items, 182 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: but it was local. It wasn't until his eldest son, 183 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Eduard that things changed. Speaking of some give more credit 184 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,479 Speaker 1: to Franz's son Edward, who refined the recipe while apprenticing 185 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: at a confectionery called Demel in Vienna. D Mel had 186 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: been operating since seventeen eighty six. 187 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: It was a popular shop. It was appointed a royal 188 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: purveyor of suites early on in its existence, and also 189 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: was the sole supplier to the very fancy burg theater nearby, 190 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: and has continued to be pretty posh over a number 191 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: of like dramatic ownership changes over the years. 192 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: In eighteen seventy six, Edward opened Hotel Soccer, and Soccer 193 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Torte was featured on the hotel's menu. From there, the 194 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: dessert really took off in the city of Vienna, with 195 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: various restaurants and cafes coming up with their own variations. 196 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: Probably important to note here. Before the eighteen fifties, women 197 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 2: weren't permitted in cafes around Vienna, but as that changed, coffeehouse, 198 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: literary and political culture really started taking off. 199 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: Yes, and according to some sources, after Edward's death, his 200 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: widow on a soccer, became manager of the hotel and 201 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: went on to really elevate it to this posh destination 202 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: that attracted celebrities and diplomats. 203 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: She was known for being I loved reading about her. 204 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: She was known for being like a really like bold lady, 205 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: and for smoking cigars and having like a number of 206 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: French bulldogs around her at any given time. 207 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had kind of a persona legend around her. 208 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Her local nickname was the Queen of Vienna. 209 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: So Yes. In an eighteen eighty eight letter to the editor, 210 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Edward claimed that soccer tourte were fairly common in most 211 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: major Austrian cities. 212 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so this was published in one of the big 213 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: local newspapers, and what had happened was on a previous 214 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: article published in this newspaper about famous Viennese cuisine, soccer 215 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: tort had not been mentioned, no, and and he was mad. 216 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: He was so upset. He yeah, so he wrote and 217 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: he was like, I'm sorry, this is like a really 218 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: big thing actually, and added that it was on the 219 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Imperial Family's everyday menu and that he personally sold four 220 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: hundred a day locally and shipped. 221 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, sounds about right. 222 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: Also, apparently Sick and Freud often dined at Hotel Soccer 223 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: and was particularly fond of soccer tourt. 224 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Okay, this brings us to the legal drama, because with 225 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: great popularity comes great legal drama. Usual, yes, and in 226 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: this case, particularly over the term original soccer tourte. Both 227 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Dmel and Hotel Soccer claimed to have been at the 228 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: birthplace of the original soccer torte, and both wanted sole 229 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 1: use of original when it came to describing their products. 230 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Demel claimed that Soccer honed in on the recipe while 231 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: working at their cafe. Not only that, after his father's death, 232 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: son Edward Junior, not the same one we've been talking about, 233 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: sold the recipe for soccer Tourte to DMO due to 234 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: financial troubles, so Demel owned the recipe, though potentially they 235 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: already had it if Edward Senior really did refine the 236 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: recipe there, Hotel Soccer claimed, Actually it was refined at 237 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: the hotel, and the hotel's namesake, Soccer was the family 238 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: that invented it. There were also disputes about proportions and methods. 239 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: It was this whole thing. Some publications dubbed this the 240 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: cake or and what a war it was. We're kind 241 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: of condensing this. 242 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: It was a lot. 243 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: It was a protracted battle. In the nineteen fifties, these 244 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: two places went to court and waged a years long 245 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: roller coaster of a legal battle that was eventually settled 246 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: out of court. In nineteen sixty three, Hotel Soccer got 247 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: to use the label original with two layers of apricot jam, 248 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: while d Mel was permitted to sell Edward Soccer Torts 249 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: or DMO Soccer Torts with one layer. 250 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: Of an apricot jam. Yeah, so to this day both 251 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: shops place a little chocolate medallion atop each slice of 252 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: tort or each cake if they're selling the whole cake. 253 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Hotel Soccers says Hotel Soccer Original, and Demel's says Eduard 254 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: Soccer torte product of Christoph Dmel's Sons, which was the 255 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: official official name of the cafe at the time. 256 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: So gotta love it. In some ways, you've gotta love it. 257 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Uh. 258 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: And going back to kind of the stuffy response from 259 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the website about you think it's dry, they also have 260 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: a an article you can read where they talk about 261 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: how this means that Hotel Soccer cannot change their recipe 262 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: or they lose that original. Yeah. Yes, so they were like, 263 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, in some ways we can't innovate, but also 264 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: were the original and they really have benefited from name recognition. 265 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: Dmel isn't doing poorly by any means. Hotel Soccer really 266 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: has built a brand. Yeah. 267 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. By the nineteen eighties they were shipping one hundred 268 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: thousand soccer tourt in a year. 269 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: Jumping ahead a little bit, when Austria was sanctioned by 270 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the EU in two thousand, after a far right party 271 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: joined the Austrian government, they tried to smooth things over 272 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: by sending Vienna's foreign minister to an EU summit equipped 273 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: with a huge soccer retort. I don't think this is why, 274 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: but the sanctions were dropped soon after that. I don't 275 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: think it was no no, but it might have helped. 276 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, Hotel Soccer started an online 277 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: shop for purchasing their cakes relatively early in the internet 278 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: shipping days in two thousand and five. Also about the 279 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: one versus two layers of apricot jam that are allowed 280 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: in the cakes as of that legal decision. This one 281 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: article that I read, which was originally published in twenty eighteen, 282 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: included at the top important update February twenty twenty one. 283 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: Please note that since the original publication of this article, 284 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: Damel has updated their soccer torte recipe to include a 285 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: jam layer in the middle. Emphasis theirs that was there. 286 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: That was the original bold face on the web page. 287 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, huge legal news, you know. 288 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. To this day, Hotel Soccer keeps the recipe locked 289 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: in a safe and the few employees who know it 290 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: have to sign confidentiality agreements. They do offer an approximation 291 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: of the recipe online. So but obviously there's a few 292 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: things they keep close to the chess. I think it 293 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: might have to do with the exact types of chocolate 294 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: that they put in the in the cake and then 295 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: on the coating. Anyway, I think that's everything that we 296 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: really have to say about soccer tort. I do want 297 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: to include here a shout out to the Cadbury Recipe 298 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: Blog of all places, for really getting the Billy Joel 299 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: song Vienna stuck in my head for the past week 300 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: or so. I wasn't expecting it from Cadbury, but here 301 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: we are. 302 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: It's amazing how often we get songs stuck in her 303 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: head from this this show. Oh yeah, well, the best 304 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: of luck, Lauren. 305 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: Thanks. I like Billy Cholls, so it's okay. 306 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Yes, but even an artist you like sometimes I get 307 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: stuck in your head. 308 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: It can be the ear where them is. Yeah, I can, 309 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: I can, you can. But oh man, if any of 310 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: y'all have if you've been to either of these cafes, 311 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 2: if you have made a soccer toort, if you have 312 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: strong opinions about how it's a crap cake. 313 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Or I mean, we didn't really get into it, but 314 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: you could get all kinds people really are innovating with it. 315 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: No, yeah, these two cafes are sort of like they're 316 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: pretty locked in. Yeah, this is what. 317 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: It is, but I know all kinds of things happen, 318 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: so yeah, please let us know. 319 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do already have some listener mail for you, though, 320 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 321 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 322 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 323 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you, sponsors, Yes, thank you, and 324 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: we're back with Snow George and going up, coming down. 325 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: It's this legal battle. 326 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh wow. Yeah yeah. 327 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: Listen. 328 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: That is a hammer of justice right there, if you. 329 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: Want to look it up. Listeners, they went through this 330 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: whole back and forth for years. It's really entertaining to me. 331 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, the family drama behind both of those places 332 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: is also quite intense. 333 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: So yes, it is, it is, but all right. In 334 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the meantime, we do have some listener mail for you, yes, 335 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: starting with Jacob. Jacob wrote, so catching up on a 336 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: backlock of episodes and listening to the Doritos episode and 337 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: the discussion of a lady Dorito's being cleaner and quieter. 338 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Except it isn't a thing, but if it was, I'd 339 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: like to suggest a better name. The Discreto all the 340 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: flavor blast, but just for you, if they don't know, 341 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to share. 342 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the Discreto. 343 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I could see that. I mean, I'm both 344 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: horrified and tickled that I can see this commercial in 345 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: my head. 346 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. But also that's a great tagline like if 347 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: they don't know, you don't have to share. Uh yeah, yeah, 348 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: that's this is a perfect This is a Dorito's called 349 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: Jacob right now. 350 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: Remember all that flak you got for lady Doritos here 351 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: was your issue? Yeah, it should have been the discreto. 352 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: It's a slight pivot in there. 353 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: It is exactly exactly. I love it. 354 00:23:54,440 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, okay. H l Eric wrote about the Sunday classic. 355 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: Enjoy revisiting a classic. Sundays are enjoyable, and I agree 356 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: that you need a sauce of some sort in addition 357 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: to another topping like nuts or something with texture. I'll 358 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: let them argue out who invented it as long as 359 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: we still get to enjoy them. I love kalamada olives 360 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: just as a straight up snack or when used in 361 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: different meals for snacking while pitted are easier. I think 362 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: I enjoy having them with pits as I slow down 363 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: and enjoy them more, and I think they have just 364 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: a touch more flavor. I also love seeing them used 365 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: in different ways. If you have a place that does 366 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: those small, thin wood fired pizzas, get one with some kalamada, 367 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: arugula and a bit of proscudo. I also enjoy taking 368 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: about a cup of them. Throw about three quarters into 369 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: a food processor. Yes, any a food processor, so you 370 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: probably won't make this with a clover two of garlic 371 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: and a little olive oil and make a sort of patae. 372 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: Chop up the other quarter along with a few cherry 373 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: peppers and mix together. Spread that on toasted baguette with 374 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: a little sharp cheese of choice, and enjoy. Mix them 375 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: into a pikasha before baking, along with a few on top, 376 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: chop into a salad, etc. They are just such wonderful 377 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: olives to use. I always enjoyed thinking of things they 378 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: can be put into. The Taiyaki episode just really drives 379 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: home how much I want to visit Japan and try 380 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: the different foods there. I don't know anyone around our 381 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: area making them, so the cravings are just going to 382 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: go unsatisfied for now. I loved hearing about the different 383 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: ways that people say to hold and eat them opinions right. 384 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: The Southern Cafeteria episode was interesting. The only one I 385 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: knew of offhand was Love's. 386 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Was it Luby's? 387 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: Heck? I think it was lovees and I've only ever 388 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: been once. It was enjoyable. I like the idea of it, 389 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: and we'll have to see if I can find one 390 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: of the others the next time I head south. I 391 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: second Nova's nomination for a Stroup waffle episode. I really 392 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: enjoy them when it's colder out. Just a nice comforting 393 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 2: cookie to have with a cup of hot tea or cocoa. 394 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: And Janet's Lamington pizzas sounded good. I definitely want to 395 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: give that a taste. I love hearing about food combination 396 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: successful or not, as they tell a story. 397 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: I do too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, what people are 398 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: getting up to? 399 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, I wouldn't have thought to put that together. 400 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: How is it? 401 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: Is it bad? 402 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: That isn't making me want to try a less? 403 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate it that you went for it. 404 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 405 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: We won't know unless we try. 406 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: Exactly. Come on, have some adventure in your eating. Oh absolutely, 407 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh this all of this, like kalamada pat sounds amazing. 408 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Yes, my mom always gives me all of for Christmas 409 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: and I recently unearthed them, so I've been thinking of 410 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: what I could do with some small lips. This a 411 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of good ideas right here. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 412 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: you're right. If the food processor has to come out, 413 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: that's all. I might do it, but probably not, but 414 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I might sometimes I get a wild air the immersion blender. 415 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: Man, they make things so easy. Do you find that 416 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: they don't make things easy? Is it the fact that 417 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: you have to get it out? 418 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: I have to get it out and I have to 419 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: clean it. I don't like. 420 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: That, Oh, I see you. 421 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but also I have a small space. Everybody 422 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: like the act of getting something out. 423 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I'm sure because yeah, I'm sure that 424 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: all your cabinets are stuffed to the gills with all 425 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: of your appliances and whatever, and so I'm sure that glasses. 426 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure that there's like layers of retrieving something from 427 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: the cabinets, yes, and then returning it to the cabinet afterwards. Yeah, 428 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: because because Annie's the kitchen is is quite compact. 429 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: Fact. Yes, yes, when I have to get out like 430 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: the blender, I just leave it. I leave everything out 431 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: on the floor. 432 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: Until you need to it. 433 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 434 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's legit. 435 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but all of this sounds great. Uh, And I 436 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: do love I do love all and yes, I hope 437 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: that you can get taiyaki someday. 438 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, even even if you just find like one 439 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: of the frozen kinds and just like make it in 440 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: your toaster, oven or something, it's still delightful. And although, yeah, 441 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: let's all let's all visit Japan sounds great, let's go. 442 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Such good Japan? 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