WEBVTT - Best Picture Countdown to the Oscars: "Bugonia"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the folks, it is Oscar's weekend. You haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>your homework, have you? We're here to do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>A number five on our list, Bogonia. As we get

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<v Speaker 1>you caught up, giving you the cliff notes, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're good to go if you're gonna be watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar Ceremony on Sunday night. But haven't watched all ten movies?

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<v Speaker 1>We watched them for you. We've gone through the first four.

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<v Speaker 1>Number five on the list is Bogonia. Surprised, Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna give an opinion yet, but Bogonia, as

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<v Speaker 1>you just say, it's number five on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it has four nominations, including Best Picture, Best Actress,

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<v Speaker 2>and Best Adapted Screenplay. And the cast is phenomenal in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie. Emma Stone who was nominated, Jesse Plemmons who

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<v Speaker 2>got snugged, Aidendulvis. But this was a movie that we

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<v Speaker 2>actually went into, at least I'll speak for myself. I

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<v Speaker 2>went into watching this movie not really having a clue

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<v Speaker 2>what it was about. I only knew that Emma Stone

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<v Speaker 2>had to shave her head for it. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>went into watching this movie. That's all I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we saw that it didn't make that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. In the preview you couldn't miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it was out there in the press

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<v Speaker 1>that she was out there in public a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew she had to shave her head. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is coming this movie? Bogonia? What is Bogonia about? I

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<v Speaker 1>still delusions? Delusions?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what were they not?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah? Yes, the synopsis here, two conspiracy obsessed young men

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapped the high powered CEO of a major company, convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that she's an alien intent undestroying planet Earth. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the promotion was pretty good for this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, and so I truly I went into this

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<v Speaker 2>movie with no expectations and I was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ready to see what it was going to deliver.

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<v Speaker 3>It was rated R and it came in.

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<v Speaker 2>This was another reason why I think we were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we can watch this at an hour and fifty eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes mart right under that two hour remark, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed very digestible, at least compared to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other best picture movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And we actually watched this movie before we even thought

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<v Speaker 2>about doing this series, where we thought, okay, we'll watch

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<v Speaker 2>all the Oscar movies for everyone else and let them

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<v Speaker 2>know what's worth it what's not. We actually just watched

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<v Speaker 2>this movie out of pure curiosity.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the promo, I give them credit, this didn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>Gang Bust was necessarily at the box office made forty

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollars, But there was something about how they

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<v Speaker 1>promoted this movie that really got me curious about it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Plemons and Emma Stone, Okay, you got my attention there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just remember so well the promos of her

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<v Speaker 1>running from them and beating them up, and them looking

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy people holding her hostage, and her hair was bald,

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<v Speaker 1>and her some white makeup was on her face, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What is going And honestly, throughout a lot of the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And that is why this movie was so thrilling in

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<v Speaker 2>moments to watch, because you were trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time if these two conspiracy obsessed guys were

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<v Speaker 2>on the right track, if they were legit, or if

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<v Speaker 2>they were actually insane, if Emma Stone was her character

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<v Speaker 2>was actually evil and an alien and how to take

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<v Speaker 2>over a planet Earth, or if she was just this

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<v Speaker 2>victim of these crazy people, And you really were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure it out throughout the entire movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts, was this one. I'm trying to think of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones we went to the theater to see Sinners. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the other one we wanted? What was the other

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<v Speaker 1>one that we voluntarily Is this the one? This is

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<v Speaker 1>the only other one we voluntarily watched.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was the only other one on the

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<v Speaker 2>list that we actually wanted to watch based on promos

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<v Speaker 2>and hearing people talk about Emma Stone performance.

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<v Speaker 3>That actually was a motivator.

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<v Speaker 2>For me as well to watch it. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, let's just see what this movie's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 3>Mystery around the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, f one was the other one we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Considering considering, but we and we know, but we only

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<v Speaker 2>watched it after it got nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we watched this one before.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but we we watched it before we knew we

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<v Speaker 3>were doing. We watched one after we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>We were compulsory, like this was going to be like Homer,

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<v Speaker 2>we were gonna watch all the movies.

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<v Speaker 3>Made a decision to watch all the movies. We watched

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<v Speaker 3>this one before we made that.

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<v Speaker 1>So only two movies out of the ten did we watch,

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<v Speaker 1>and weren't forced to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bgonia is one of the two, so that's worth noting. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this one is, like I said, hour fifty eight. But

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<v Speaker 1>the critics, what did you see? And again I always

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<v Speaker 1>put it on you because you end up reading through

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<v Speaker 1>more of the reviews than I do. But with the

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<v Speaker 1>Riding Tomatoes eighty seven versus eighty four, the audience and

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<v Speaker 1>the critics are about the same. What issue were people

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<v Speaker 1>taking with the movie?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they just thought it was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It was people described it as tragic and ironically funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's what someone wrote, I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>They called it something akin to a joy ride in

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<v Speaker 2>a clown car going one hundred and twenty miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's well done.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that? I think actually they

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<v Speaker 2>nailed it when they said that. That's a really good

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<v Speaker 2>way to put it, because there was something ridiculous about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was something wildly uncomfortable about it, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>something thrilling about it, and I think with that description

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<v Speaker 2>they nailed all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the clown car a part in going one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty, I actually don't know that I should be

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<v Speaker 1>in danger, Like I am sitting in a clown car.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going one hundred and twenty? What do I do here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the movie was. I didn't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>should take it seriously, like is she in danger? Are

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<v Speaker 1>these guys silly and crazy? That is a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it. You're confused about how to feel because

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<v Speaker 1>this feels dangerous. But I want to laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Or cry or both? Or are they going to kill her?

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<v Speaker 3>What are they gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you're like the whole time, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is brilliant because I'm watching this the whole time thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>because we all do this when.

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<v Speaker 3>We're reading a book, we're watching a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to be our own sleuths, our own detectives,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're trying to be the smartest one in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>How does this end? I'm going to figure it out?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're doing that this entire movie. Your mind is

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<v Speaker 2>racing while you're watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I don't know how much love

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<v Speaker 1>she is getting out there because during the award season,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the Best Actress and all those categories,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, quite frankly, Tayana Taylor's been getting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of attention because and even she's in the Supporting Actress category,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the ladies from the lady from sentimental value. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Emmastone getting a lot of love for

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<v Speaker 1>this role, getting a lot of the chance of winning.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is unusual because I mean, look, if you've prior

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar shows or who wins the best Actress category, some

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<v Speaker 2>times it's when a beautiful actress makes herself look ugly,

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<v Speaker 2>When a beautiful actress shaves her head. I can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Halle Berry, I can talk about Charlie's their own.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's actually interesting that Emma Stone isn't getting that

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<v Speaker 2>same kind of Oscar buzz or love because look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that those performances by those two actresses weren't

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar worthy and worthy of winning, but it does. You

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<v Speaker 2>do see a theme sometimes when you see beautiful actresses

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<v Speaker 2>make themselves into something they aren't usually seen as while

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting on a powerful performance, Those oftentimes are the

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<v Speaker 2>recipes for winning an Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>They've talked about this forever. The Academy loves when an

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<v Speaker 1>actor changes their appearance. When somebody gains a lot of weight,

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<v Speaker 1>loses a lot of weight, yeah, I'm thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think McConaughey was he what was that movie? He

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of weight in this is that is

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<v Speaker 1>just a history of this. Even Brendan Fraser for the Whale,

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<v Speaker 1>these things just have happened. I loved her. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of who else could carry this movie in

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<v Speaker 1>the way she does. She and Jesse Plemons. To see

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<v Speaker 1>those two acting heavyweights so good spar in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was amazing and there was heart in

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<v Speaker 2>this story because there was a reason behind why the

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Plemons character was doing what he was doing, so

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<v Speaker 2>you actually you felt something for even these crazy, conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed guys who were doing this weird thing to Emma Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you start to question, wait, is she an alien?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she from the mothership?

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<v Speaker 2>But there was actual heart to this because she was

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<v Speaker 2>trying you. You also put yourself in her position. You're thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my god, if I were ever abducted. She was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate and be smarter than them and find a

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<v Speaker 2>way out of this situation she found herself in. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just there were so many relatable moments in a

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<v Speaker 2>very unrelatable odd bizarre movie that actually I think is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of brilliant, that I actually felt something that was

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<v Speaker 2>so absurd.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure how I should feel. My fiance can relate

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<v Speaker 1>to aliens and abductions. But stay here, we'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>if my fiance also thinks you should watch or skip

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. All right, we continue with aliens and abductions,

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<v Speaker 1>Pogonia number five on our list. Watch it to skip it.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you tell somebody coming to you, a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>family member, I'm gonna check out Pagonia tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You think should I would say to watch it? I

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<v Speaker 2>would say to watch it. I think this is phenomenally

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<v Speaker 2>well acted. I thought it was a brilliant original script.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love anything that keeps me guessing and keeps

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<v Speaker 2>me awake. Honestly, that's kind of a huge litmus desk

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<v Speaker 2>for me at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>With the hours we work and the time we get up.

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<v Speaker 2>It is actually a to me, a litmus test as

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<v Speaker 2>to whether or not a movie is great or just okay.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can stay awake, you already are winning points,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one kept me on.

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<v Speaker 1>The edge of my right. You just gave me an

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<v Speaker 1>idea we should launch a whole movie review site. Show

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, that's simply it. That's the test. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you keep me awake past dark? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And at what point do I fall asleep? We'll give

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<v Speaker 3>you that'll be how.

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<v Speaker 1>Many stories break down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if I make it to the whole thing, five stars.

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<v Speaker 2>But seriously, that is where I am in my uh

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<v Speaker 2>like my life, and yes, I staying awake is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge check.

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<v Speaker 3>In the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned expectations, Rose, maybe that thing is real, because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have high expectations going into this, and I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a cool movie. I really really enjoyed this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun. It was like you said, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery here that you're trying to figure out, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was bizarre and it was weird. Maybe in a

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<v Speaker 1>way we like to see weird movies, but it was entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at two hours, this was cool. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>loved Emma Stone, some of the stuff in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>that she's done between this and Super Bad Like Back.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't remember that that teen Coming of age, vulgar, foul,

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<v Speaker 1>potty mouth, just hilarious movie she was in.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot she was in that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna watch this today, crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Stupid love too right, she was in that I love

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? I say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy super Love?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that movie about?

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy stupid Love?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a what category?

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny? It's a is it a rom com?

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<v Speaker 1>You just asked me if it's okay? You just asked

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<v Speaker 1>me if I've seen it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So maybe we can put that on the list too.

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<v Speaker 2>Then if you love Emma Stone, you'll love this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>She's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. She's great in I guess everything she does

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<v Speaker 1>because she's one of the Best Actress Award profore, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Also an awesome human being. I have to say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really really appreciate her. She has been phenomenal. Just

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten the opportunity interviewer in my career and she's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of those people when you meet her, you're

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<v Speaker 2>hoping she's as great as she seems to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's that and more.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Okay, So there you go. Obviously we recommend

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<v Speaker 1>this movie highly. This wraps up, so we're lumping the

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<v Speaker 1>We did the first five we dropped them here on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday on Oscars Weekend, but then we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the next five for you, and we're dropping those on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday so check all of these out look for those.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll all be posted around noontime on noon Eastern time

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. And the ones we have left Hamnet, Marty Supreme,

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Agent Train Dreams, and Sentimental Value. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea why we decided to do them in that chunk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of movie back then.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you just put the list down. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what order you chose to kind of put

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<v Speaker 2>these in, but I'm here for it because these are

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps I mean, maybe Hamnet had what I mean they had.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was the one and Marty Supreme,

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<v Speaker 2>those two got the most promotion. The other ones the

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Agent, Train, Dreams, Sentimental Value. I had to look

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<v Speaker 2>them up. I didn't even I never even saw them

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<v Speaker 2>being promoted, truly, but some of these are are You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want to hear what we think about them, because

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<v Speaker 2>you may want to check some of these out just

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't get the big PR blast or the

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<v Speaker 2>big marketing value. There is some there are some incredible

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<v Speaker 2>performances in these next movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting y' all caught up before the ceremony on Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate, as always by hanging with us. Look for

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<v Speaker 1>the next five. They'll all be posted on Sunday.