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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 3: Hannah's back from Saudi Arabia but still on Middle Eastern time. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I have took delivery of, bought and licensed my new car.

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Speaker 3: Plus I've been test driving one of my dream cars

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Speaker 3: a truck, so we'll discuss those things. Plus you have

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Speaker 3: a story out on Supercar Blondie and yet another auction site.

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Speaker 2: But it may make sense.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it very well could make sense.

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Speaker 3: You're also test driving g Wagon, the big AMG version,

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Speaker 3: so I want to talk about that. I owned the

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Speaker 3: lesser version a couple of years ago in Berlin, and

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Speaker 3: we've got some cool emails that we're going to go over.

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Speaker 2: What's the email address again?

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Speaker 1: The email address is Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net,

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Speaker 1: and we do really appreciate your emails. I also got

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Speaker 1: phone message from my mom, but that was somehow emailed

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Speaker 1: to me. Hon't you get your numb Thanks mom? I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure, but thanks for that. But email also works

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do love the emails because a we like

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Speaker 3: to connect with our listeners and engage converse with our listeners.

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Speaker 2: But also we get a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of content that way, or we get good content. I think, no,

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Speaker 3: a lot, but quality over quantity. Let's kick it off

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Speaker 3: with the Supercar Blondie story, because initially, when I think, oh,

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Speaker 3: another auction site, Like I'm already searching on auto Trader

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Speaker 3: and auto Tempest for normal cars and then I'm going

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Speaker 3: on BAT. I spend like at least an hour a

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Speaker 3: day on Bring a Trailer. Yeah, Doug has cars and

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Speaker 3: bids which I've started looking at as well, and.

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Speaker 1: There's collecting cars in the UK.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Chris Harris thing.

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Speaker 3: My buddy James Little works for them, makes really cool videos.

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Speaker 3: Recently I watched one he did of a Bentley, So

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Speaker 3: I want.

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Speaker 2: To talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I got to talk about my new obsession with

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Speaker 3: or my yes, increased obsession with Bentley. It is a

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Speaker 3: love hate thing. But Supercar Blondie, whom a lot of

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Speaker 3: people know from social media, has started another another auction site,

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Speaker 3: which I would think we don't need one, but it's

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Speaker 3: specifically targeted at the hypercars that she profiles.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's right. So Supercar Blondie. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: Matt you're familiar with her. For anybody who isn't familiar

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Speaker 1: with her, she is a very influential content creator. She

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Speaker 4: She's Australian.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Alex Hershey and she runs the brand

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Speaker 1: with her husband, Nick Hershey, who actually is a former

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Speaker 1: he's a finance guy who quit and now they have

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Speaker 1: Supercar Blondie, this brand. She actually counts two billion viewers

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Speaker 1: Wild Wild, and she is launching on March eighteenth something

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Speaker 1: called SBX Cars, which is going to be, like you say,

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Speaker 1: an online car auction platform, and the platform is going

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Speaker 4: So it's not going to be.

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Speaker 1: Like Ferrari four eighty eights and Lamborghini SUVs and BMWM three's.

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Speaker 1: and Alex says, look, there are enough people buying and

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Speaker 4: It's been done, people will do it.

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Speaker 1: But Alex and Nick argue there isn't a place for

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I think so the Supercar Blondie story is interesting

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Speaker 3: on so many levels. Right Number one, she herself and

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Speaker 3: number four will the business? You know, is there room

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Speaker 2: And so the b's what if they think about this?

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Speaker 1: It's not glamorous, but then again they're coming from a

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Speaker 3: because and that's something that was created. It was a

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Speaker 3: Whereas you know Doug, we talk about Doug DeMuro all

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Speaker 1: Well, Alex says that many of the people that she

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Speaker 1: Yes she's Australian, but she resides in Dubai with her husband.

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Speaker 3: We're angry about it at first, but it drives a

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Speaker 4: But about the price, I have to say, this is.

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Speaker 2: They ship it over here.

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Speaker 1: Which one which actual office.

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Speaker 3: Why do we have these, you know, these masses of

442
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 3: regulation that just make life harder and not as enjoyable.

443
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I I sort of know why. But I

444
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: finally got it licensed and drove it home, and I'm

445
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: so excited. The main thing I love about it is

446
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: that it's the same color that our G five hundred

447
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: was in, this emerald green.

448
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen it in my life.

449
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: No, it's a beautiful It looks black in almost every

450
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: light unless it's in direct sunlight.

451
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: Does it have metallic flake in it? Yes, slightly so.

452
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: If it's in direct sunlight, then it's all of a sudden,

453
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 3: oozing metallic flake, like somebody.

454
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 2: Just poured out stripper.

455
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Sprinkles on it. And it's emerald green. It's so beautiful.

456
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: But in any other light it's black, and so I

457
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: love that. And then I got, uh, you know how

458
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: obsessed I am with big trucks that have giant diesel motors.

459
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: So Ford delivered Bless their hearts and f two point

460
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: fifty King Ranch with the Tremor package. It has the

461
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: six point seven liter what's it called the power stroke

462
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: turbo diesel with twelve hundred foot pounds of torque, Like

463
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: that's just insane. That's an insane amount of push. And

464
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: it's in this really cool color Anti matter blue, and

465
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: I've had a couple of cars with that before.

466
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of thing.

467
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 3: It looks black and almost every light unless there's direct

468
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: you need even more sunlight for this one. And then

469
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: it has the sparkly blue tone which is amazing. And

470
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: I absolutely love this truck, Hannah. I'm gonna, honestly, I'm

471
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: gonna tell the people at Ford to give you one for.

472
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: A week because I'll want it. I want it.

473
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: The thing about it is, of course it's nothing like

474
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: your Rolls Royce or you know.

475
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: A huge luxo barge.

476
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it does have that.

477
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: It does have the push right, and that's the thing

478
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: that Rolls Royce has and Bentley has. They have this

479
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: a massive amount of torque, but this has double what

480
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: those have. And even though you know it's it's a

481
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: heavy duty truck and it's got off road suspension so

482
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: it doesn't absorb the bumps. It's not the magic carpet ride.

483
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: But when you put your foot down, no matter what,

484
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: no matter where you're going. Even though it's like heavier

485
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: than you know, an oil tanker, it's just boom, it goes.

486
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with it?

487
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: Well, I just it puts such a huge smile on

488
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: my face. It makes my life better to drive it. Oh,

489
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: and what I keep doing is comparing it to the

490
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: Chevy version that I had a few weeks ago. I

491
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: had the Chevy Silverado twenty five hundred hd z R

492
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: two with a six point six liter Duramax.

493
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: These names are so long and whatever. My wife makes

494
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: fun of me for that, but.

495
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: They're essentially the same kind of thing. They're heavy duty

496
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: trucks with the off road package and the big diesel motor.

497
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 3: But they're very different vehicles because the Chevy, I think,

498
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: and maybe it's because of the suspension. It's got that

499
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: really trick suspension that comes out of Canada, I believe,

500
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: and it just does absorb the bumps on the road.

501
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: By the way, neither one of these vehicles I'm gonna

502
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: use for their intended purposes.

503
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm not hauling anything.

504
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm not using them for any work projects, and I'm

505
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: not taking them off road.

506
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: Where are you parking it?

507
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: I can only park it outside because it doesn't fit

508
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: in any garage neither one. But basically, I'm just driving

509
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: into Bronxville. I pull up in front of Langs. I

510
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: go in there and get a toasted corn muff on

511
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: the extra butter and an Arnold Palmer. You know, I'm

512
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: just cruising to Starbucks. You know, maybe I'm buying cars

513
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: and coffee. Yeah, so I'm only driving these on the road.

514
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: And the best thing there for me that they're useful

515
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: for is just munching miles. Like they can just go

516
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: on the highway and they have you know, one thousand

517
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: mile range, not quite a thousand, but over six hundred

518
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: miles of range. But the Chevy is more of like

519
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: a luxury product. I feel like the Chevy is more

520
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: high end and even the interior feels better appointed, whereas

521
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: the Ford feels like more of a work truck. I

522
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: wear my cowboy hat in it because I feel like

523
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: I am going to the farm.

524
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: This is cosplay level. Yes, really we're getting close.

525
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: But it's more it's bouncy and jouncy over highway joints.

526
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: And you know, what are.

527
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: You listening to when you drive this truck?

528
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: Like what music?

529
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: Well, I listened to the Dead in almost every truck.

530
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: And I drove this Ford, this king Ranch last night

531
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: to the Capitol Theater in port Chester where I saw

532
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: Phil and Friends, which is Phil Lesh.

533
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: You know.

534
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: He is the bass player for The Grateful.

535
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: Dead and I didn't know, but it was amazing.

536
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm also listening. I was listening to

537
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: Ministry this morning.

538
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: Oh cool, all right, single there?

539
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: And what else have I listened to in.

540
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: These are the Girls with you at this point? Or no?

541
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: When the girls are in the car?

542
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: I'm typically listening to the Dead because Edna requests it,

543
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: and I don't think my infant child wants to be

544
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: hearing Alan Jurgenson.

545
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, uh, you know, I listened to a lot

546
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: of different stuff.

547
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: It's not the same as It's not the same kind

548
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: of seventies metal that I would listen to in my

549
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: Challenger in the truck, I feel it's more like country

550
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: and the Dead makes more sense, you know.

551
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see some Willie Nelson maybe.

552
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: But my point is the Chevy version, it's it's more

553
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: luxurious and it's more I think about, maybe about the

554
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: driver like me, who isn't buying these trucks really uh,

555
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: to work on the ranch or to haul huge trailers,

556
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: and I don't do any of the precise testing that

557
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, roadent track or a Roman ORF or Roman

558
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: at TfL do. But the Chevy doesn't feel as fast.

559
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: The Ford has a lot more get up and go.

560
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: But I think, uh, it's it's more of a refined

561
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: suspension so the Chevy.

562
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: So does that mean that you would choose the Chevy

563
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: over the four.

564
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, because they give you a different feeling,

565
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: you know that In the Chevy, I love it so much,

566
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: but I feel kind of like an impostor because it's

567
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: too good. I feel like I should be drinking a cappuccino.

568
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: In the Chevy.

569
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: I feel like I should be drinking a beer, you know,

570
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: and carrying a shotgun.

571
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: So and neither one of those things I would do

572
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: on the public.

573
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: No, no New York but no.

574
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

575
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: I think, just just my two cents on the difference

576
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: between those two vehicles, I need, I need you to

577
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: try these.

578
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: I would really like I would really like the chance

579
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: to try to park it in the Bluebird Parking garage,

580
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: because that I already know will be a nightmare.

581
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: You can't park them in the parking garage.

582
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: And the other thing about both of these big heavy

583
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: duty off road diesel trucks is that they're kind of

584
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: too expensive for me.

585
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: I mean, there's what's the price point.

586
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: I didn't look at the Monroni, but I've I've configured

587
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: both the F two fifty and the Silverado twenty five hundred.

588
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: I don't get below like eighty eight thousand, and really

589
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: they go above. They both go above ninety because you

590
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: got to, like, you have to put a winch right,

591
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: I guess in case you ever need to pull somebody

592
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: out right.

593
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: It would be embarrassing if you've showed up somewhere and

594
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: you didn't have.

595
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: A we have this tool. You have to have the capability.

596
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: But so they're both basically one hundred thousand dollars cars,

597
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: and I'm looking for something a little bit less pricey.

598
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: So I've been searching high and low, watching every documentary

599
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: and review, going to all of the websites from Supercar

600
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: Blondie to car Gurus for a Bentley and oh yes,

601
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: it's become like an obsession, Hannah. Why and you kind

602
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: of kicked it off when you first bought your rolls Rice,

603
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: I was like that is a cool that is a

604
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: ball or move.

605
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

606
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I sort of thought about it for

607
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: a while and never took it seriously.

608
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: And then Matt Farrah from The Smoking Tire, which I'm

609
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: like my.

610
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: Favorite podcast, he bought uh Turbo R, which is the

611
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: one I wanted, and.

612
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: It's a big boy one.

613
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: I was kind of like disappointed because I feel like

614
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: he's gonna drive the prices up because he's already done it,

615
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: so I can't do it. So I said, all right,

616
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: let me look at one generation newer, which is the

617
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Bentley Arnaje. So the Turbo R was Bentley's, the Bentley

618
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: badged version of the Rolls Royce I think silver spur.

619
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Right, yes, And I will interject where Magnus always says,

620
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: the next Rolls Royce we get is going to be

621
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: a Bentley, because that's kind of true. Right, Well, there's

622
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: a crossover here.

623
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: He tried to make them sportier, like I can't remember

624
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: when Rolls Royce took ownership of Bentley, but it was,

625
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: you know, before the war, right or or or somewhere

626
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: just thereafter. And then and then Rolls Royce focused on

627
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Rolls Royces and they would badge Bentley's. The idea was

628
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be a little sportier and with for

629
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: the Turbo R. That was the first time it actually happened.

630
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: I think they made first of mulsan Are and that

631
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: became the Turbo R.

632
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: And basically they took the Rolls Royce six.

633
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: And three quarter Leader V eight and they just put

634
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 3: a Garrett turbo charger on it.

635
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, we need to get Charlie Agapou on to

636
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 1: really lay it down for us. I would love we

637
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: should get him on, Matt. You know, this is for

638
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: anyone listening. He's the you know, favorite and pre eminent

639
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Rolls Royce and Bentley mechanic in Los Angeles. He's eighty

640
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: years old ish, worked back in the day for the

641
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Ford Pit Crew and Ford beat Ferrari. A gem of

642
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: a guy.

643
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: Anyway, I would love to have him on him on

644
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: so and by the way, I'm looking all these Bentley's,

645
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: I'm looking at on bat and somewhere in the comments

646
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: of every Bentley auction, somebody inevitably says, hey, has Charlie worked.

647
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: On this car?

648
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, because if he has and you know, okay, okay, okay,

649
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good.

650
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: So anyway, the turbo r was the first time I

651
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: think in at least decades. Let's say that Bentley really

652
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: differentiated itself from Rolls Royce in terms of, you know,

653
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: the power and the handling. They they made the car stiffer.

654
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: They put a turbo charger on and it was a

655
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: lot fat. So I think the obvious choice to get

656
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: over the silver Spur of the era. But Matt Farrah

657
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: has gotten one, and so I thought, let me look

658
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: at some other Arnage reviews.

659
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: There's a ton of really cool long term owner or

660
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: just classic car buff reviews on YouTube.

661
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: The Bentley Arnage came after and a lot of people

662
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: will say it was the last real Bentley because then

663
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: there was the whole thing with BMW and Folkswagen like

664
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 3: fighting for control of Bentley and Rolls Royce, and but

665
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: this was the last like fully British in crew designed

666
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: and then built there Bentley the Arnage, and it gets

667
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: a lot of power like the te got I think

668
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: over four hundred and sixty horsepower and six hundred and

669
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: fifty pound feet of torqu which is massive even today.

670
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: It's massive for the time, I'm almost unthinkable.

671
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And people say it's a stiffer ride than

672
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: the Turbo R. It's it's a better handler. I prefer

673
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: the look slightly of the Turbo R. But I've now

674
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: the arnage has grown on me and so and by

675
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: the way, these cars, the Turbo AR and the arnage,

676
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: you can get you know, high mileage versions for little

677
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: you know, like thou thirty thousand dollars.

678
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: Now you texted me a bring a trailer link to

679
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: in ninety seven azure.

680
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Bentley, which is like a convertible Continental.

681
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: So they which which is in its in its in

682
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: its own right, like a very special car. But there's

683
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: a guy on YouTube called the Gadget Guru who does

684
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: these delightful videos about stuff, and one of them is

685
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: the Bentley.

686
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: What did he buy an arnage or a urb?

687
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: I think he bought an arnage right at Amkam Auction

688
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: in Kissimi. I think he paid thirty six thousand for it.

689
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: And then he'd he had like this is a meticulous dude.

690
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: He had everything all lined up in terms of the

691
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: dealership he'd already talked to.

692
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: They knew the car was coming.

693
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: So he buys that the auction has it shipped over

694
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: to them, and they're like, and they told him beforehand, like, dude,

695
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: expect at least ten thousand dollars.

696
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: Of okay, fine, ten ten, I understand.

697
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: So then they're like they look at the car and

698
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: they're like, actually, sorry, it's gonna be more like forty

699
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. And he's like, oh, but then uh, he

700
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: drives it a little they look at it a little more.

701
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: His total repair bill within months after buying it from

702
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: me Kam was ninety six thousand dollars on top of

703
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: the thirty six grand he's spent to buy the.

704
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: Car in the value of the car way more. I

705
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: question a million things in this story because what what

706
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: would you not see?

707
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: So okay, I mean I've been digging out deep into this,

708
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: so this is so fishing.

709
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: You know, what's that Hoovey Hoovey's garage. You ever watched that.

710
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: He's a YouTube guy and he has awesome cars, and

711
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: but he his this is what he does. He like

712
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: buys the cheap version of the amazing car that you

713
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: had the poster on the wall of your bedroom in

714
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: the eighties and now you can get it for twenty thousand.

715
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: But you had to sick forty into it. He has

716
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: a mechanic called the Wizard who does his own videos,

717
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: and he does a video on the arnage about the

718
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: things that go wrong. He says, listen, he's never had

719
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: a Bentley Arnage in his garage that hasn't got at

720
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: least to twenty thousand in terms of repairs. And there

721
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: are multiple problems, starting with the no well, the suspension

722
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 3: for sure, because it's like this weird mineral oil pneumatic thing.

723
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Your roles might have the same kind of suspension. But

724
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 3: the actuator for the transmission, like when you go from

725
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: park to drive, it doesn't actually move a lever to

726
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: the transmission. It moves like a little computer actuator that

727
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: then moves a lever. And of course they don't make

728
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: that anymore, even though it's only like twenty years old.

729
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: Plus if you want to get a used one, there's

730
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: one main place to buy used parts for Bentley's in

731
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: the US called Flying Spares, and for Rolls Royces as well.

732
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: You may know it if you go to.

733
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: Flying Spares and say I need an actual wait for

734
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: the transmission of an arnage. They say, like, get in line,

735
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: so does everybody, And when one pops up, used and reconditioned.

736
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: It goes instantly.

737
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: It's already been spoken for, So forget about getting one

738
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: the steering rack when you have to repair that twenty

739
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars. The suspension, as you mentioned, is multiple

740
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars per part, right like a like a

741
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: control arm. You're talking about fifteen hundred dollars two thousand

742
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: dollars apiece. And then like the tires are an issue,

743
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: the Benley Turbo R wheels only fit tires made by Avon,

744
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 3: and Avon doesn't really make them that much. They'll make batches.

745
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I doubt it. Where are you getting this information?

746
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: I've been looking. I've been digging so deep.

747
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Look, I think I want to do a phone a friend.

748
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: I need to phone a friend. I need to call

749
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: my friend, Steve Cirio. Steve listens to this podcast every

750
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: week with his sons in Zohen Rocco and you guys,

751
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: I think they could help us because this this is

752
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: seeming like wildly I'm unsure.

753
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 4: I don't claim to know the world of Bentley's yet, but.

754
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: We need well, I mean, we'll continue to talk about that,

755
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: and I want to interview Charlie. I will just end

756
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: by saying what I found through my search for a

757
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: cool Bentley, and I was looking for pre like Continental GT.

758
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: Bentley's like before the Germans totally owned it. Right, even

759
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: though those are really cool, there are amazing cars. I've

760
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: driven them, I love them, It's not the same kind

761
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: of thing. What I landed on is the car I

762
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: want is the Continental TE. So after the turboar and

763
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: before they arenage, they made the Continental which is not

764
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 3: the Continental GT that you see now.

765
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: This predates that.

766
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: It predates that, and it kind of is like a

767
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: five sixty sec, you know, like.

768
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: They're beautiful of it.

769
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: Probably not as well built as the Mercedes, but at

770
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: the time they were the most expensive. At the time,

771
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: they were the most expensive car in the world, and

772
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: they had the Continental R and then they shortened the

773
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: wheelbase and put some more power under the hood and

774
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: called it the Continental T. And I think that's the

775
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: one to get. But I'm afraid, and I think you

776
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: could probably get a well sorted one for like sixty

777
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: seventy eighty thousand, but I'm just scared that after that

778
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: the repair bills are going to be the same or more.

779
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 4: It's a valid concern.

780
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I did hear somebody say, oh, it's British, it's not

781
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: meant to run every day. That's it's you know, it

782
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: wasn't bothered by it. It's just the nature of the business.

783
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: Well I can't. I can't have that.

784
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there is something to be said for I

785
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: feel like in these later model Bentley's and Rolls Royces.

786
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I totally agree they're super cool and I would want

787
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: one too, But of course, like it's cheaper when everything's analog,

788
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: which is why my seventy five Rolls Royce it. Yes,

789
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I've had to make a few minor repairs, but everything's

790
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: cheaper because it's all analog.

791
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: It's none of this like high tech computerized stuff.

792
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: I think you're hundred percent right.

793
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: What you want is so I would have to throw

794
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 3: away my dream of the Arnage and the Continental because

795
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: what you want is only the analog vehicles, which is

796
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: maybe eighty nine was the last year for an analog vehicle,

797
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: and then before that you're good.

798
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: After that it's too terrifying.

799
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: But I do think in terms of nineteen ninety and

800
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: two thousand era cars and Mercedes is great. I don't

801
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: know about Bentley.

802
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, Well, Mercedes is like Faber engineered the

803
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: highest quality. And that's so after my obsession got deep

804
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: and dangerous with Bentley's last week and then I started

805
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: seeing the costs. It scared me out of it. And

806
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: then I went straight back to looking at a W

807
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: one twenty six.

808
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 4: Like I feel I was going to feel.

809
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this.

810
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.

811
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: The thing is they're just not as powerful, you know,

812
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: because you're getting what maximum like maximum three hundred horsepower

813
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: from the factory out of any Mercedes before, like the

814
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: two thousands, and these Bentleys were putting out four hundred,

815
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: four twenty obviously my favorite number four fifty four sixty,

816
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 3: so you know they're they're putting out.

817
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: A lot more power. All right, that's all we have

818
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: time for today. But it's been great talking to you, Hannah.

819
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: So glad you're back in the US.

820
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: Me too.

821
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna beg like Dan Barbosa to send you a

822
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: Super Duty with a big Diesel motor in it.

823
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Great Ford, Thank you. I can't wait to try.

824
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: And because I think it's really a luxurious experience. People

825
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: think of them as work trucks, but I.

826
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: Think it's luxury I'll be the judge of that, Yes

827
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: you will.

828
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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller, I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg.