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Speaker 4: May fourth, twenty twenty six, Episode five ninety four, The
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Speaker 4: been on a little bit of a whirlwind. You were
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, I believe for the Bitcoin conference, some
Speaker 4: robot fighting courtesy of BattleBots as well. It seemed like
Speaker 4: a busy weekend for you. Are you you're back in
Speaker 4: North Carolina? Red eye last night or no?
Speaker 3: Yes, red eye? Red Eye? I got in. It was
Speaker 3: delayed as well, so we got off a little late start.
Speaker 3: God here around six am. I probably have about four
Speaker 3: hours of sleep something like that. So please forgive me
Speaker 3: if I'm a little little brain dead. But right here
Speaker 3: we are. I was away from home for like ten days, dude,
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to guys. So, oh you were
Speaker 3: out there that long? Yeah, I was there for a while.
Speaker 3: Have a reunion with the kids this morning or you're
Speaker 3: sleeping with that? I did? Yeah this morning? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was probably good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: My daughter was there to greet me. Everyone else was sleeping.
Speaker 3: She's like got out of bed. Yeah on half a
Speaker 3: month at least.
Speaker 4: You guys out of bed, Well, welcome home, and uh,
Speaker 4: we know you got a lot of busy things coming
Speaker 4: up which we will get to uh next week. But
Speaker 4: it is Monday, May fourth. It is UFC three twenty
Speaker 4: eight fight week.
Speaker 3: RJ.
Speaker 4: Clifford was in Perth covering UFC fight Night and he
Speaker 4: did not make it back to the States in time
Speaker 4: for the show.
Speaker 3: His flight was canceled. R drunk is what happened? I think, Yes,
Speaker 3: he's still drunk somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his blood alcohol level is very high right now
Speaker 4: in Sydney to South South Wales, Australia.
Speaker 3: As such, he couldn't join us for the program.
Speaker 4: But Jason Anna coming up here in about ten minutes,
Speaker 4: Ray Longo coming up in about a half an hour,
Speaker 4: and the Great Yanni the Greek has five UFC three
Speaker 4: twenty eight main card selections as well as your bets
Speaker 4: after a big week for a UFC fight night, Della
Speaker 4: Maddelena versus protests. So to that end, let's get to
Speaker 4: heads headlines.
Speaker 1: It's time for headlines. I have some Barry urgent and
Speaker 1: important breaking new headlines and Kenny Sans contest.
Speaker 4: You know, the guy I don't like is the I
Speaker 4: told you so guy, And we try not to be
Speaker 4: the I Told you so show. But We only call
Speaker 4: it like our eyes see it. You put your entire
Speaker 4: thousand dollars on Carlos protests to beat Jack Dela Mattelane.
Speaker 4: He could have been on any fight on the cards,
Speaker 4: so we acknowledge your wager there, right. But what we
Speaker 4: have been saying, or I've been saying on this podcast
Speaker 4: for a long time or at least dating to before
Speaker 4: the Jeff Neil result, is best of luck to the
Speaker 4: elite welterweights surviving twenty five minutes minutes under all the
Speaker 4: martial arts and weaponry that Carlos Protest bit brings to
Speaker 4: the table, and Islamikasha may be the guy, but Jack
Speaker 4: Dela Madelena was not the guy. And once again Carlos
Speaker 4: Protest is able to knock out an elite welterweight contender,
Speaker 4: this time a former undisputed UFC welterweight champion and in
Speaker 4: all likelihood when the rankings come out later today, Carlos
Speaker 4: protests the Nightmare going to be number two or number
Speaker 4: one in the world and likely going to fight for
Speaker 4: the title and the not too distant future, all hail
Speaker 4: the Nightmare.
Speaker 3: Carlos protests, what a performance John Imy talk about getting
Speaker 3: it done in enemy territory against another highly skilled striker
Speaker 3: in Jack Dela Madelena. That is not an easy task,
Speaker 3: and to make it look easy to me shows a
Speaker 3: level of mastery, right that. The masters are the guys
Speaker 3: that do all the little things so well that they
Speaker 3: make it look natural. They make it look easy. And
Speaker 3: Carlos Protests made it look easy, and the variety of strikes,
Speaker 3: the pressure even when he was going backwards. He is
Speaker 3: a freaking problem. Again. Good luck dealing with that guy
Speaker 3: because there's no ability to predict those patterns. He's throwing
Speaker 3: so much at you, with so much ferocity and mal intent.
Speaker 3: It's just what I don't I don't have anything else
Speaker 3: to say. Like I knew it was gonna be a
Speaker 3: tough fight for Jack, but to do it like that, John.
Speaker 4: Bro come on all violence all the time, the way
Speaker 4: he attacks your legs, the body, the bounce in his step.
Speaker 4: I thought Jack Della got off to a pretty good start,
Speaker 4: at least in terms of octagon control.
Speaker 3: Backing Protests up a little bit. Yes, he needed to
Speaker 3: do that exactly, and he needed to back him up.
Speaker 3: I think that was his best bet. You don't let
Speaker 3: a six foot three beast with all of those weapons.
Speaker 3: Back you up, and I Jack at least attempted to
Speaker 3: be the aggressor, which I thought was his best bet.
Speaker 3: He got off to a good start, like you said,
Speaker 3: he was landing some good shots. But Carlos, he's he's
Speaker 3: so comfortable on the feet now, John, he's just gotten better.
Speaker 3: And again, first of all, this isn't about Ian Gary.
Speaker 3: But first I think a lot of people got their
Speaker 3: eyes open to how good Ian Gary is. To diffuse
Speaker 3: that level of pressure, you need an unbelievable jab. You
Speaker 3: need to be tall yourself like Ian Gary, but more
Speaker 3: than anything else, you need phenomenal footwork. So I think
Speaker 3: Ian Garry's coming out of this looking very good. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just it's so difficult to deal with
Speaker 3: someone like Carlos Protestman.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if he would be a betting
Speaker 4: favorite in a rematch with Ian mashade o' Gary. Right,
Speaker 4: there were some circumstances surrounding that first fight between those two.
Speaker 4: He was Yes, he's improved, right, that's really lead. But
Speaker 4: he was training for Jeff Neil, I believe, and the
Speaker 4: fight got moved. If I'm not mistaken and then he
Speaker 4: fight fight fights in Kansas City over five rounds. But
Speaker 4: you know, when you start to think about how some
Speaker 4: of these other elite Weltsway contenders would fare against the
Speaker 4: uber tough Jack Della Mattelena, I still think the answer
Speaker 4: is not. Well, Like, I still think Jack is going
Speaker 4: to be a problem for a lot of these guys.
Speaker 4: And look what Carlos Protest was able to do on
Speaker 4: the weekend. And every time I see this guy fight,
Speaker 4: I remember the Jeff Neil fight and just thinking, man like,
Speaker 4: how do you survive? I mean, these are credentialed opponents
Speaker 4: and the brutalization you know, has Joe Rogan texted me
Speaker 4: in DC like dude, like this dude is a significant
Speaker 4: problem for everybody south of Makasha at the very least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean he's he's got a monopoly on
Speaker 3: violence in the UFC, I think in the welt Away Division,
Speaker 3: and he he came out looking so good, man Like.
Speaker 3: That's how you maximize that opportunity, right, I mean, the
Speaker 3: welts Way Division is as stacked as it's been and
Speaker 3: obviously a ton of talent there. But if there's one
Speaker 3: guy who's able to skip the line at this point.
Speaker 3: It's Carlos Protest. He stayed busy. He's showing a variety
Speaker 3: of tools. He is proving that he is out there
Speaker 3: to both entertain and destroy, and that is not a
Speaker 3: difficult thing. A lot of guys who want to do that,
Speaker 3: but they don't have that level of consistency like Carlos Proctest,
Speaker 3: and to do that against elite competition, a former champion,
Speaker 3: Carlos is the real deal man. I don't think I
Speaker 3: was on that train. Maybe I gone on the Carlos
Speaker 3: Proctest train about three fights ago or something like that,
Speaker 3: a little bit late. Like a lot of people were
Speaker 3: all over it. It took me a little while to
Speaker 3: come around. But what a problem.
Speaker 4: Well, you've been on the Shadow Gary train of the
Speaker 4: Iliatoputia train. I mean, how many fucking you can only
Speaker 4: get so many tickets. I was a little bit surprised
Speaker 4: that they led the walkout talking cigarettes, which I think
Speaker 4: is so tired at this point in time. Not only
Speaker 4: is nicotine a perpetually misunderstood drug, but we need the
Speaker 4: narrative on Carlos Protest to be the martial artist, his
Speaker 4: entire life's body of work, the fights in Thailand, the
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu competition, right, this guy's got hundreds upon hundreds
Speaker 4: of fights in all of these different disciplines. You talk
Speaker 4: about his relative comfortability on the feet, I mean he
Speaker 4: he isn't drinking wine the night before celebrating the win
Speaker 4: like Topoitia, but he acts as if the outcome is
Speaker 4: an eventuality and he knows that he's going to eventually
Speaker 4: find a shot and get you out of it.
Speaker 3: Bravo, my friend. Yeah, I think that when you get
Speaker 3: a guy who has been around the game for so long,
Speaker 3: being a professional Muay Thai fighter, you know, living in Thailand,
Speaker 3: traveling around the world, making no money, and now having
Speaker 3: this opportunity with you know, the ability to make a
Speaker 3: lot of money now for each and every fight, and
Speaker 3: to have the level of fame that he has it,
Speaker 3: you know, And he said it. He's like, how can
Speaker 3: I not go out there and just have a great
Speaker 3: time now? He's like, before I had to fight and
Speaker 3: I was making no money. Now I just go out
Speaker 3: to entertain and enjoy myself. And it shows. It shows,
Speaker 3: And look at the difference between the fight against Ian
Speaker 3: Gary to where he's at now. He is absolutely a
Speaker 3: martial artist. A martial artist is dedicated to improving their skills,
Speaker 3: being honest with themselves and going what do I need
Speaker 3: to do to get that belt, or to beat that
Speaker 3: next guy in front of me, or to be ready
Speaker 3: for those other skills that maybe I haven't seen yet.
Speaker 3: Carlos protest is significantly better for the last time. What
Speaker 3: did he work on his footwork? Something that a lot
Speaker 3: of people, even good strikers, don't like doing, those little
Speaker 3: things that are monotonous that you got to do over
Speaker 3: He is so impressive, man.
Speaker 4: He is a top ten superstar in the UFC. I
Speaker 4: don't know when he sort of got to that threshold.
Speaker 4: The fan interest is absolutely off the charts, and I
Speaker 4: just remember after the Jeff Neil fite thinking, you know,
Speaker 4: this is exactly the type of guy that the UFC
Speaker 4: would pay and build a round and really a guy
Speaker 4: who could be champion. And now he has left Leon
Speaker 4: Edwards and Jack Dela mat Atlanta, two former un disputed
Speaker 4: weltroeight champions, firmly in his wake. And you know, Islami Kashev,
Speaker 4: I would think would be the elixir to protest his
Speaker 4: style write the ability to potentially take him down and
Speaker 4: keep him down. You talk about the ever evolving protests
Speaker 4: and the improvements that he has made with the anti
Speaker 4: grappling and the wrestling, but the Mikashev matchup is absolutely fascinating,
Speaker 4: even if it's not next.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And what's interesting though, is that
Speaker 3: it may have to force Islam Mahashev to be more
Speaker 3: of an upper body clinched guy. Now, Mahashev is phenomenal
Speaker 3: at that, thankfully for him, but I'm not sure a
Speaker 3: whole lot of guys, after looking at that performance against
Speaker 3: Jack Dela mout Atalanta, with all those nasty knees that
Speaker 3: were coming up the middle, are going I think it's
Speaker 3: a good idea to shoot a double leg from the
Speaker 3: outside against Carlos protests like that might be a suicide
Speaker 3: mission to go in there and try to, you know,
Speaker 3: tackle those legs, those knees. That is one of the
Speaker 3: most effective uses of knees that I have seen, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe the most effective usage of knees that I've seen
Speaker 3: since Anderson Silva and and a variety of knees, not
Speaker 3: just from the klan truth from the tie plumb He's
Speaker 3: throwing long knees from the outside muy tie style, and
Speaker 3: typically you don't see a whole lot of guys have
Speaker 3: that level of success. He was crushing Jack to the body.
Speaker 3: He was crushing Jack upstairs to the head like and
Speaker 3: being six foot three.
Speaker 4: My goodness, right listed six to one on Wikipedia. I
Speaker 4: just checked. But yeah, six three. I don't know what
Speaker 4: the he's six, Yeah, I don't, But yeah, he's not
Speaker 4: talk about the you know, the the tie fights and
Speaker 4: not the Marlborough mediums.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But Jeff Neil, Leon Edwards, Jack Dela Matalana now all
Speaker 4: by knockout or TKO and if Nasordini Mavov can get
Speaker 4: passed over for Sean Strickland because you had to make
Speaker 4: Chimaya versus Strickland, don't think for a second that you
Speaker 4: couldn't while the iron is hot and go Makasha versus Protest.
Speaker 4: Now Carlos has put over Ian Mashado, Gary as has
Speaker 4: the Anakin Florian podcast. I'm not trying to sort of
Speaker 4: start a narrative. I'm merely saying with the Middleway Championship fight,
Speaker 4: we have beckoning this weekend in the Brick City, Stranger
Speaker 4: things have happened. And if you don't think that they
Speaker 4: would like to expedite Protests into a championship fight based
Speaker 4: upon what we have seen recently, you're crazy.
Speaker 3: So I agree. I think he could be in that slot.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've seen a lot of fighters over
Speaker 3: the years in big fights, you know, not get that
Speaker 3: opportunity because they got injured or something breaks down as
Speaker 3: far as contracts or whatever. I do think Ian Gary
Speaker 3: deserves that. I think that's what you're saying as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I Ian Gary poses his own problems because of that
Speaker 3: phenomenal fork and that long jab and those long weapons
Speaker 3: similar to Carlos Protests. But I think Carlos Protest is
Speaker 3: the more potent striker. I think everyone would agree with that.
Speaker 3: His shots are designed to kill. You know, Ian Gary's
Speaker 3: shots are kind of more designed to cut and frustrate. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still a problem in his own right, but those
Speaker 3: are all great problems for the UFC to have.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 4: Three number one contenders, Michael Moralesy and the Shadow Morale process.
Speaker 4: All indications are Ian Theshadow Gary is going to be next.
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Speaker 4: I don't know why you populate Jay in the middle
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Speaker 4: us here. Jay, it's nice. Oh, it's great. Somebody hey,
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Speaker 4: tell us you're almost fifty without telling us you're a fifty?
Speaker 3: Right? What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: So everybody's asking me in the pre show meeting, what
Speaker 4: do you do to your risk? And the answer is,
Speaker 4: I'm almost forty eight. I don't know. I just woke
Speaker 4: up in my hand and wrist. We're swollen on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Can't put any pressure on it whatsoever. And we got
Speaker 4: to Mahomes golf tournament in like eleven days. So have
Speaker 4: you talked about the party party, Josh? Sorry, flow titterrupt yet?
Speaker 4: Have you talked about the party at your house from
Speaker 4: last Saturday night at all?
Speaker 2: Yet? Jo? So?
Speaker 3: No, thank you, Jay.
Speaker 4: So we did, probably against our better judgment, have a
Speaker 4: party for my daughter Riley, who was a freshman in
Speaker 4: high school. And I did get a text from Kenny Florian.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find it here. Not that I'm that popular,
Speaker 4: but I got a small world though, Kenny Florian says.
Speaker 4: My buddy text me. This was ten thirty two pm Saturday.
Speaker 4: My buddy text me, I just picked up my daughter
Speaker 4: from a party at john Annex house. I guess he said,
Speaker 4: prominent lawyer. Uh for Spotify or so but so yeah.
Speaker 4: So we had the party. We had a list of
Speaker 4: fifty kids and three hundred kids basically showed up by
Speaker 4: eight forty five pm. It was absolutely insane. The lowest
Speaker 4: moment was mewing a bunch of glass off the main
Speaker 4: road because some of the kids, presumably from a different
Speaker 4: school Brunswick, broke a bunch of glass in the middle
Speaker 4: of the street. So I'm sweeping that up, you know.
Speaker 4: Simultaneously kids are like, can I get a photo? I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: this will be fucking memorable, as up holding the room.
Speaker 4: What it was crazy, I'm asking And the cops were
Speaker 4: there within fifteen minute. Shout out to the Granwich Police Department.
Speaker 4: They were absolutely outstanding. Well, a lot of crime in
Speaker 4: that area, necessarily, but it is interesting and we have
Speaker 4: the greatest security team in the world, the UFC security team,
Speaker 4: but playing security for a night. And I guess I'll
Speaker 4: just share one quick anecdote since Jay brought it up.
Speaker 4: So my wife at one point is navigating the list
Speaker 4: and she says, wait, what's your name? And I guess
Speaker 4: by accident, she put like the flashlight in some kid's
Speaker 4: face and he's like, oh that light. She's like, all right,
Speaker 4: get out of here, and I'm like, well, I didn't
Speaker 4: see that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, the light's bothering you.
Speaker 4: Get the fuck up the property. After a while, it's like,
Speaker 4: you all got cell phones, you can call an uber.
Speaker 4: That part of it actually became sort of fun.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I got the lacest tied, wondering if like five or
Speaker 4: six of these kids might jump me at any point.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say too much, but we knew,
Speaker 4: not on like buying a family dog, that this was
Speaker 4: something that we were gonna have to do once. Right,
Speaker 4: she asked at Halloween, and we delayed until now it's
Speaker 4: never fucking happening again. Her younger siblings to never get
Speaker 4: a house party. My basement smells like Theta Chi fraternity.
Speaker 4: The smell may never go away and uh, it was
Speaker 4: complete and utter pandemonium and madness. When the cops first came,
Speaker 4: I'm run into the backyard trying to get everybody inside
Speaker 4: to control you know, the noise. I slip and fall.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's how I hurt my wrist. I'm just thinking
Speaker 4: of that now. My son Hunter is in a full
Speaker 4: suit with something that says security. He has a piece
Speaker 4: of paper in his jacket that says like you're kicked out.
Speaker 4: You know, it was so good it was, and here
Speaker 4: we are. So if I might touch on Carlos protests, right,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like when the tail of the tape
Speaker 4: actually does matter, right, regardless of what the numbers are.
Speaker 4: It's like the reach right, It's like they look like
Speaker 4: two different dudes in there. And you've said all there
Speaker 4: is to be said about protests. The only thing I
Speaker 4: would say is Ian Gary has punched that ticket in
Speaker 4: a way maybe that I think, No, Sardinia Mavov hasn't.
Speaker 4: In terms of that conversation.
Speaker 3: If you've given me.
Speaker 4: Where my opinion, regardless of whether or not Carlos protest
Speaker 4: at this stage is better. And I love Ken Flow
Speaker 4: talking about the improvement the evolution of these fighters, because
Speaker 4: you do see a lot of guys get better and
Speaker 4: better and better. But Jack Dela Madalena, right, doesn't seem
Speaker 4: to be operating in that confident place he was when
Speaker 4: he beat Alamuhammad for the championship, right. And if you
Speaker 4: don't think that fight against Islam Mahashev took a little
Speaker 4: bit of that confidence, I just didn't see it from Jack.
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily saying that there were many paths to victory,
Speaker 4: but I didn't see a confident Jack Dela Matdelena. And
Speaker 4: when you guys talk about the I hate the phrase
Speaker 4: sort of pressure as a privilege, but you truly believe
Speaker 4: protest when he talks about what he came from and
Speaker 4: where he's at now, kind of playing with house money,
Speaker 4: and yeah, gosh, I just it really, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you don't think some middleweights we'd have some problems
Speaker 3: with that guy. Yeah, No, for sure, he's fighting in
Speaker 3: the octagon like that's his backyard, like that's his home. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, there's there's the aspect of having the
Speaker 3: skills to perform at the elite level. There's you know,
Speaker 3: having the natural athletic ability size what he's got that
Speaker 3: and now he's comfortable in there, and he's got experience,
Speaker 3: and he's got momentum, like, good luck beating that guy.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, and I said on a show earlier
Speaker 4: to take you know, I remember a point where Balam
Speaker 4: Mohammed Wi Octagon side and Carlos Protest came over and
Speaker 4: started running his mouth a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 4: at that point I was like, all right, billaw you
Speaker 4: take care of this guy. And without no disrespect to Ballah,
Speaker 4: but it's a whole different conversation nowadays. And you know, John,
Speaker 4: you talk about the two year setback. I understand JDM
Speaker 4: twenty nine years old, but quite a gauntlet, you know.
Speaker 4: I certainly think that he can continue to improve, but
Speaker 4: as Floria and You've talked about improvements, not him over
Speaker 4: the years, and I love it, and it truly is
Speaker 4: in the elite, in the elite of the elite, you
Speaker 4: gotta keep getting better or you will be left if
Speaker 4: Baha difficult to Gabriel bon Fieme on June sixth, I
Speaker 4: think you run it back with three named Jack and
Speaker 4: Balal and you rematch one of the best fights of
Speaker 4: that year, and it just goes to show you, though,
Speaker 4: man right, like Now you have these two former champions
Speaker 4: right in Blah Mohammed and Jack Dela Madelena, who have
Speaker 4: both lost two fights in a row. We have at
Speaker 4: least three number one contenders in the UFC's welterweight division,
Speaker 4: and how many guys like Carlos Protest doesn't give a
Speaker 4: monokam of a fuck. He will knock out Jeff Neil,
Speaker 4: knockout Leon Edwards, and then he will fly all the
Speaker 4: way to the end of the earth in Perth to
Speaker 4: face Jack Dela Madelena in the farthest place on the
Speaker 4: spinning earth that he can go bring forty people and say, well,
Speaker 4: you know, in sort of a dead pinned Brazilian type
Speaker 4: of way like Kenny, you could say it for us, right, like,
Speaker 4: how am I suppose I can't lose?
Speaker 3: I flew forty people this far. It's just and he
Speaker 3: means it, he man, and Jason, I think you're spot
Speaker 3: on with his approach and how he feels like he
Speaker 3: is playing with house money now and he's he's a
Speaker 3: special dude, man, And I just like everything about what
Speaker 3: he's saying, what he's doing, and the UFC has a
Speaker 3: star in that guy. There's no question about that I
Speaker 3: mean that Kenny have been the case, but this is
Speaker 3: even that much better.
Speaker 4: Kenny had a great tweet about Islam Mahashev, you know,
Speaker 4: sort of being to your point, the elixir perhaps for
Speaker 4: Carlos protest right. And perhaps that fight isn't conducted on
Speaker 4: the feet, if you will, if Islam gets that opportunity
Speaker 4: or that fight happens, but certainly Protess is going to
Speaker 4: continue to be able to work, and perhaps that big
Speaker 4: frame potentially can get up off the canvas in a
Speaker 4: way that Jack Dela Madelena couldn't.
Speaker 3: But earlier this.
Speaker 4: Year, right as the UFC dare we say, was you know,
Speaker 4: maybe having some rough weeks or whatever, But yeah, the
Speaker 4: worldwide leader continues all of a sudden, as we sit
Speaker 4: here in May to just have all sorts of matchups
Speaker 4: and be all sorts of stars to sort of pluck from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Flow.
Speaker 3: The other thing I was going to say in regards
Speaker 3: to that, you know, when they eventually they do fight,
Speaker 3: because I do think they will fight eventually. I think
Speaker 3: with all the weapons that he throws, if Islam's able
Speaker 3: to get to the clancher, get to his legs, yeah
Speaker 3: he's gonna do what he does. But all of those
Speaker 3: variety of weapons, it's like stepping on a mind. It's
Speaker 3: like walking in a mind with everything that he's throwing down.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not going to be easy. And if
Speaker 3: there's one guy who can catch Islam on the way in,
Speaker 3: you know, I know we have this conversation before John
Speaker 3: who would be the guy that would finish it? Who's
Speaker 3: the guy that I would put money on right now?
Speaker 3: Carlos Protess?
Speaker 4: It's just crazy, right, Yes, if you ask that question
Speaker 4: and revisit that question, if you had to send one
Speaker 4: welterweight in there right now to you know, save a
Speaker 4: hamster's life, or you send in Michael Morales, you send
Speaker 4: in Carlos Protest? Who you send it in there? But
Speaker 4: sometimes I like to be a fan and just sort
Speaker 4: of be like, dude, best of LUCKX survivement twenty five
Speaker 4: minutes with all of that strapping come in your way
Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah, well no, And when Kenny talks about
Speaker 4: Protest being the best version of himself, we all know
Speaker 4: how married to the game, Ian Gary is better and
Speaker 4: better every time out and going all around the globe
Speaker 4: to sort of find different opportunities to train or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't want to transition too much, but I have
Speaker 4: to shout out Steve Ver sig right, you know, because
Speaker 4: I was really impressed with that performance and a guy
Speaker 4: who perhaps got a title shot maybe a little bit
Speaker 4: too early, perhaps, you know, Elliott maybe wins that first
Speaker 4: round and then Steve Ver six proves there's levels to
Speaker 4: this shit, you know, And I like how he put
Speaker 4: himself back on the map, maybe even after losing that
Speaker 4: first round, some nice combinations. I like what I saw
Speaker 4: out of him. Just want to shout out. It is
Speaker 4: interesting because as competitive as he was against all Chanre
Speaker 4: Pantosa and the fight was there for the taking. I actually,
Speaker 4: after calling it, thought that he had won the fight.
Speaker 4: But that, Kenny doesn't necessarily mean you're ready, even if
Speaker 4: you fight the champion tooth and nail. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of different factors, factors on the Pantosia side. And now
Speaker 4: you see the physical maturation, the added muscle mass. He
Speaker 4: just looks like a championship level fighter to me.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And you know, we were talking a
Speaker 3: little bit earlier about potential declines of fighters coming off
Speaker 3: of title fights or being a champion sometimes getting to
Speaker 3: the top of that mountain, and we see a lot
Speaker 3: of guys slide down that mountain quite quickly and never
Speaker 3: never being able to recover. And for Ersag, I thought
Speaker 3: that was also a very tough matchup going against Elliott.
Speaker 3: You know, Tim Elliott is so awkward and unorthodox, you know,
Speaker 3: and he can give so many guys problems. I didn't
Speaker 3: love that matchup for er if I'm being honest, especially
Speaker 3: given maybe a little bit of his struggles that he's
Speaker 3: had and to come back like that, Jay, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was thoroughly impressed, making the right adjustments, fighting like a veteran,
Speaker 3: fighting like he feels like he belongs there in his elite.
Speaker 4: So that that was a huge win. Yeah, tough guy
Speaker 4: against whom to look good. I did think he won
Speaker 4: all three rounds, but the judges had a twenty nine
Speaker 4: to twenty eight for Uh. For Steve Vers, What do
Speaker 4: you guys think of Quillan Salkill Banil Daryus Lands An
Speaker 4: early shot acknowledged by sal Kill dropped him a little bit,
Speaker 4: maybe it was a jab, But this Quillan sal Kiale man,
Speaker 4: he's got an entire nation behind him and he's maximizing
Speaker 4: these showcases Kenny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another kid who's a problem, who's getting
Speaker 3: the right fights at the right time. I think that
Speaker 3: is huge too, because it's not like he's been in
Speaker 3: the UFC a long time. But whoever is managing him
Speaker 3: coaching him, they're they're they're making the right choices as
Speaker 3: to who they're fighting and who they're fighting at certain times.
Speaker 3: And he looks great, and he's showing that he's diverse
Speaker 3: as a fighter as well, Like he's so good at
Speaker 3: keeping the fight where he wants it and going against
Speaker 3: a guy like Banil daryush who's a high level Brazilian
Speaker 3: judsu black belt, and we've seen sel killed take the
Speaker 3: fight to the ground, but he knew he's like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm not gonna be on my back against
Speaker 3: this guy. He had the wrestling show that he had
Speaker 3: to defensive resting to keep it on the feet. Was
Speaker 3: able to recover after getting kind of dropped there by
Speaker 3: that sneaky little hook from daryushan and came back even
Speaker 3: with all the pressure like Daryusha was legitimately tried to
Speaker 3: knock him out. Yeah, and he gets a little reckless,
Speaker 3: but sal Kild kept it together. Showed his composure, showed
Speaker 3: that he has superior skills on the feet as well.
Speaker 3: And man, that was a fun fight while it lasted.
Speaker 3: But salth Kilt's the real deal. Man. He's a guy
Speaker 3: that people are gonna have to watch for big for
Speaker 3: the division.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Kenny, I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 4: You know, Jack Dela Madelena making that walk in his
Speaker 4: hometown in Perth, Western Australia. You know, I know, I
Speaker 4: get just sort of curious about that. I mean, I
Speaker 4: know there is some pressure there in your backyard going
Speaker 4: against a dude like Carlow's fucking protest.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I mean again, I felt almost too comfortable
Speaker 3: fighting in Boston, Like I think one of my biggest
Speaker 3: mistakes was like staying at home. I didn't feel like
Speaker 3: I was in a fight week almost.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It was just really weird. And you have to put
Speaker 3: yourself in that in that place, and even as I'm
Speaker 3: you know, kind of doing competitive shooting and things like that,
Speaker 3: like you almost need to feel that pressure a little bit. However,
Speaker 3: you need to be able to control it. Pressure is
Speaker 3: a fire and it will either consume you or it
Speaker 3: will fuel you. And I think for you know, Jack,
Speaker 3: it's tough. I think he came out in a pretty
Speaker 3: good headspace. I think, yeah, everything, Yeah, but John, I mean,
Speaker 3: you go to different cities all over the all over
Speaker 3: the world, and I guarantee you there's someone asking you
Speaker 3: for tickets or bothering you about this, or bothering you
Speaker 3: for that. And for fighters you know doing that, there's
Speaker 3: a lot you gotta deal with in your hometown as well.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it comes down to people bothering you
Speaker 3: for tickets, but there's a lot that comes with that.
Speaker 3: And and people are constantly mentioning you know you fighting
Speaker 3: in your hometown and this that can get to you.
Speaker 3: And and for Jack, I think when you're face see
Speaker 3: a guy like Carlo's protest, who's as dangerous as he is,
Speaker 3: and now you're getting this striker and you're supposed to
Speaker 3: perform well where you're not afraid of being taken down,
Speaker 3: that can be a lot to deal with.
Speaker 2: Jay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was more of the opponents than Perth.
Speaker 4: I mean, he fights too Brown and beat him in Perth.
Speaker 4: But yes, he did sort of oh, for lack of
Speaker 4: a better verb, Perth this main event he was rumored
Speaker 4: to be headlined against Shofcott rock Monov in a fight
Speaker 4: that didn't happen. But Jack, he didn't fight Leon, and sorry, Jay,
Speaker 4: I know you got somewhere to go.
Speaker 3: But he did good.
Speaker 4: He didn't fight Leon and he didn't fight Chofcot and
Speaker 4: the Muhammed matchup I thought was really good for him.
Speaker 4: And now we'll see the extent to which Jack can rebuild.
Speaker 4: He's certainly young enough to do it. No, I mean,
Speaker 4: I can't hold a candle to r J Clifford filling
Speaker 4: in for him today today rated RJ. But he probably
Speaker 4: would have brought up that beer snake in the crowd.
Speaker 4: I would think, did you guys see the beer snake
Speaker 4: in a crowd?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, coup. I guess a beer snake is like beer cups?
Speaker 4: You know that are I mean this thing Cody'll find
Speaker 4: an image, but literally the beer snake of cups in Perth,
Speaker 4: Western Australia, I mean, top to bottom. It was a
Speaker 4: sight to behold and I want to shout out my
Speaker 4: guy Joe Martinez as.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Joe.
Speaker 4: Martinez was on point too, but this was pretty fun
Speaker 4: to see in Perth, Western Australia. Maybe some sort of
Speaker 4: Guinness Record there. Yeah, if you are the audio only,
Speaker 4: we are showing this insane beer snake in the crowd
Speaker 4: at rac Arena. Thanks to the UFC on Paramount Plus
Speaker 4: for the footage there, Jay, What was it about Joe Martinez?
Speaker 4: I thought he was on point as well, just with
Speaker 4: all the accents. But would you like no, I just
Speaker 4: went Ozzie, Ouzzy, Ozzy and then they fire it back.
Speaker 4: I just you know, And I had the privilege of
Speaker 4: watching him when you called Canelo Crawford, John, And it's interesting,
Speaker 4: you've almost never worked you almost never worked with Joe Martinez.
Speaker 4: I find I had never met him before Cannello Crawford
Speaker 4: and just watching him sort of prepare and watching him
Speaker 4: get ready to go do his work. I was impressed
Speaker 4: with him there, and I just thought he really handled
Speaker 4: the moment really nicely and got me fire up here across.
Speaker 3: The other side. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate your contributions as always in the octagon
Speaker 4: and out of the octagon here on the Anic Imploring Podcast. Buddy,
Speaker 4: have a great day and a better uh evening with
Speaker 4: every boys. Thanks Budy.
Speaker 3: Jay.
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Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray LONGO minute.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna push a hole in this fucking shop.
Speaker 1: The Ray Long No Minute. John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, hey, oh oh shoot, where is my head?
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 2: What happens?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, it's late. Get ridio already. I'm not even
Speaker 2: getting my coffee for.
Speaker 4: This thing, sport coffee. Thanks for shouting out a competitor.
Speaker 2: Oh oh shit, Slate, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 2: is it? What's it?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 2: Well, if I would have had it, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: made the mistake.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, right, Well, we are gonna before you go
Speaker 4: to Turkey to get your hair.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get just some thrown sport coffee.
Speaker 4: So I didn't get in a fight at my daughter's
Speaker 4: party this weekend, but I would like to fight the
Speaker 4: YouTube commenter who always says I just fast forward to
Speaker 4: the ray longo minute. Fine, fine, great, great, if you
Speaker 4: didn't like the first three, great, wonderful.
Speaker 3: Right, we're gonna ask about Carlos.
Speaker 4: So Carlin, I am just a UFC fan till the
Speaker 4: day I die, Right, And when I say on the
Speaker 4: show last week, like you know, best of luck to
Speaker 4: any of these welterweight surviving twenty five minutes underneath all
Speaker 4: of these violent weapons possessed by Carlos protests, it's not
Speaker 4: really predictive. It's it's really just me being a fan.
Speaker 4: And man, is this guy just not an absolute marvel
Speaker 4: to watch?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what a beautiful demonstration of just
Speaker 2: range and keeping a guy at the end of your punches.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, vicious knees up the middle.
Speaker 2: You know, I like the way he freezes your first
Speaker 2: and he throws the knees very calculated packing the legs.
Speaker 2: Standing up with this guy's a nightmare, one hundred percent proved.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I did pick protest, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was more of a flip them fight, and
Speaker 2: it was anything got a flip them fight. You know,
Speaker 2: he just really ran through a really talented Jack Dela Modolene.
Speaker 2: And I mean the height that this guy has and
Speaker 2: the ability that he can use to keep you at
Speaker 2: the end of those punches pretty impressive. Man. That was
Speaker 2: a really, really impressive performance against a highly talented ex champion. Ray.
Speaker 3: You know, when I'm looking at the fight, I'm up
Speaker 3: oftentimes looking at it from the perspective of a fighter. Right,
Speaker 3: if I had to fight this guy, if I'm a coach,
Speaker 3: what do I do against this guy? This is the
Speaker 3: kind of guy that would keep you up at night,
Speaker 3: right as a coach, like trying to plan for what
Speaker 3: he brings to the octagon. Right, And he's even better
Speaker 3: than we saw him last time, Like he's constantly getting better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looks like his confidence is growing. And
Speaker 2: I think you're right, he is getting better. I Mean,
Speaker 2: the problem obviously is I mean, if you're a coach
Speaker 2: and you have a guy that can wrestle, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be the issue. It's almost like, you know this is
Speaker 2: but even those knees down the middle, Ray like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's always gonna have a chance. And I tell you
Speaker 2: that the height is Bisbean's not a small guy. He
Speaker 2: was not I'm not saying towering over at Bisbee, but
Speaker 2: he was noticeably taller. And Bisban's I think he's a
Speaker 2: big dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And this guy's fighting at one seventy. He looks like
Speaker 2: he's got no problems. But I think Kenny, and I
Speaker 2: tell you, I mean, you can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: But I mean the despair he's still between the striking
Speaker 2: and grappling is just so wide. I mean, look at
Speaker 2: Revvik's and gam right. I mean, and it's you think
Speaker 2: you think Islam's not putting this guy on his back
Speaker 2: and keeping him there. I mean, I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2: And it's a tough ma, it's a tough matchup. But unfortunately,
Speaker 2: we all really want to see the striking. I think
Speaker 2: I think that's even like the UFC's thing. But and
Speaker 2: this guy is your guy, but you match him with
Speaker 2: the wrong guy, I think it's gonna be a problem unfortunately,
Speaker 2: because I love watching him fight. I'm not I just
Speaker 2: don't get at this stage of the game. How they
Speaker 2: could be so much disparage at the top between guys,
Speaker 2: you know, even like what happened with the kid from
Speaker 2: South Africa. I mean, it's just you gotta, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: you gotta. You got a guy that's a bull, he's
Speaker 2: walking through people, he's but he's getting the job done,
Speaker 2: and then he's just it's not even a contest, like
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, I find it fascinating that people
Speaker 2: aren't bridging.
Speaker 4: That gap yet, Kenny, It is interesting, right, we do
Speaker 4: have these recent examples that are pretty telling in their dominance.
Speaker 4: Even if the rule set maybe favors the strikers, that
Speaker 4: Islami Kasha might be a minus five hundred favored against
Speaker 4: Carlo protests.
Speaker 3: Because the expectation as to what he'd be able to do.
Speaker 3: Ray is Lucky your dog's still alive?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, So if you had to save Lucky's life,
Speaker 4: which welter weight would you send in there right now
Speaker 4: to beat Islami Kashev and Iliotopodia cannot be an answer
Speaker 4: because he's not a welter.
Speaker 2: I think right now with the look, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not following it as much as used to but I
Speaker 2: think Ian Gary is the guy here guy because I
Speaker 2: think he's he's, you know, a big one seventy. He's
Speaker 2: been saying for the last couple of years, if you're
Speaker 2: not wrestling, you know, you know what I mean, he's
Speaker 2: been saying.
Speaker 3: The right you can stick and move like you can
Speaker 3: make a move.
Speaker 2: I think that's why he gave Pratt tru because he
Speaker 2: was all over the place, and I think that's the
Speaker 2: guy right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I don't know, Like, if I really had
Speaker 4: to save my dog's life, I might pull like a
Speaker 4: Joaquin Buckley wild card out there and just say, hey, dude,
Speaker 4: like you're trying to save my dog's life, if you
Speaker 4: please go balls to the wall and try to find
Speaker 4: a knockout shot, you know, unlike not unlike what happened
Speaker 4: to islamikashev way early on in his career. Courtesy of
Speaker 4: Adriano Martinz.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, but yeah, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people woul say I'm a shadow garrier protests
Speaker 4: maybe Morales. It's a fascinating conversation. What feels the worst
Speaker 4: on Jack Dela Madelana physically after that type of brutalization, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny, I don't know if you even had
Speaker 4: a fight in which you absorbed that type of damage.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know jose Aldo kicked in the leg,
Speaker 4: but god, I mean, what other worldly toughness to stay
Speaker 4: in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Jack is one of those guys who's extremely tough. Right,
Speaker 3: We've seen him in some really tough fights before. He's
Speaker 3: very stoic, he's very quiet. When I saw him wins
Speaker 3: in pain and open up his mouth every time he
Speaker 3: got kicked to the leg, that was unusual. And that's
Speaker 3: where I said, Now this Protest guy is different, Like
Speaker 3: he is out there to destroy. He's out there to
Speaker 3: decimate your legs, your body, your head, and he can
Speaker 3: do it with every freaking long limb in his body.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean? Like Ian Gary, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think his footwork might be a little sharper. He's
Speaker 3: got a really sharp jab, maybe even in better job
Speaker 3: than Protest, But Protests jab is really good and the
Speaker 3: potency of his strikes ray Like he's for me. I
Speaker 3: might surpass him because I just think that those knees
Speaker 3: down the middle, everything he throws, if he touches Islam,
Speaker 3: it could be over like, I think he's that dangerous now,
Speaker 3: but if he gets taken down, he Islam's gonna be
Speaker 3: all over him. But I think he's more potent a
Speaker 3: striker than anyone in the well to eight division overall.
Speaker 3: Morales has crazy knockout power as well, but the variety
Speaker 3: of weapons, the versatility of protest, to me, is what
Speaker 3: stands out.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the fight to make Morales against protests,
Speaker 2: and the winner gets it deserves a title shot, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So if you don't want to see either of those
Speaker 3: guys lose, well that's that's the issue, man.
Speaker 2: But getting back to what hurts most on Jack Delama,
Speaker 2: latter might guess would be his ego at this point
Speaker 2: because he went from champion he lost to a wrestler.
Speaker 2: Now his first fight back, he lost to a striker,
Speaker 2: which is can't be going over good with him because
Speaker 2: that's a major problem now. So I don't know, But
Speaker 2: what a nice guy, you know, I met him once
Speaker 2: with his team. They're just good people and he's got
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to get back on the
Speaker 2: horse now.
Speaker 3: John, And your question, I think is an interesting one
Speaker 3: because typically you see guys at that level, at the
Speaker 3: elite level, sometimes it's just kind of one thing. It's
Speaker 3: a body shot, or it's like kicks and you know,
Speaker 3: protest hit him and hurt him everywhere. I think he
Speaker 3: sore everywhere even and that's where like as a fighter,
Speaker 3: you're going I need something to look at it to
Speaker 3: make me feel better. It's like I did these things
Speaker 3: that were good, yeah, and and that's gonna mess with
Speaker 3: the fighter's mental space after that one, because you're like, man,
Speaker 3: there's levels of the game, and that was not a
Speaker 3: good matchup. I can't really point to much that what
Speaker 3: went my.
Speaker 4: Way, right, I mean early round two, I'm looking at
Speaker 4: some of the camera angles and the right side of
Speaker 4: Dela Madelene's face was so swollen early on in this fight,
Speaker 4: the other side of the leg, the outside of the leg,
Speaker 4: the body, the arms from taking kicks, all of it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So Ben Vickers scrappy mma in the corner of Jack,
Speaker 4: and he does a particularly good job. I think at times.
Speaker 4: Jack comes back to the corner after round two and
Speaker 4: he's like, ah, you can tell how much pain he is.
Speaker 4: The pain starting to set in a little bit, and
Speaker 4: Ben's like, no Ah, you know, like get back out there,
Speaker 4: and I did think he did everything in his power
Speaker 4: to try to center his guy, but Ray just way
Speaker 4: too much bone crushing violence coming the other way.
Speaker 3: Nothing you do about it.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, man, I'm sold on Protest after that. Man.
Speaker 2: But the funny part in that phase when the first
Speaker 2: time he took him down it was easy, and then
Speaker 2: you had you will say it to yourself, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is the game. Please just gonna go out there and
Speaker 2: take him down, and then he couldn't, and then it
Speaker 2: just it created a worse downfall. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that was that was impressive. That was really impressive. And
Speaker 2: to travel that far and to have a performance like
Speaker 2: that isn't easy either. Yeah. You know, that's a long
Speaker 2: freaking trip man.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Protest said he couldn't have everybody be sad for the
Speaker 4: trip back, so he made sure that they were happy.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know when you say when it works
Speaker 2: out like that, it's good like that.
Speaker 4: When you step up the way that Carlos Protest has
Speaker 4: stepped up for the UFC, and Sean Strickland, by the way,
Speaker 4: is another guy who has repeatedly stepped up put his
Speaker 4: title on the line very quick stepped into main events
Speaker 4: against a bousmagamet, i'v an a Sardini mob off short notice,
Speaker 4: all of those things. But Protest, you know, stepped into
Speaker 4: the Ian Gary main event right and fights Jeff Neil,
Speaker 4: then fights Leon Edwards, goes to Perth. Now, I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's going to be willing to wait, the
Speaker 4: type of guy he is, given what his show money is.
Speaker 4: Maybe he says, yeah, give me Morales, give me one
Speaker 4: of these guys. Right, But if you are Carlos Protests
Speaker 4: and you understand that overwhelmingly the most dollars can be
Speaker 4: made if you are the champion or fight for the belt,
Speaker 4: I think if he waits and you know, gets healthy
Speaker 4: and gets better, I think eventually, Kenny, you're right, like
Speaker 4: we will see Protest versus Makashev or Protests versus the champ.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, that's the one to make Man and
Speaker 3: Proctice again maximize that opportunity, which is not easy to
Speaker 3: do given all those circumstances that he was dealing with.
Speaker 4: On on Saturday, all right, right, lightweight division comin event,
Speaker 4: we talked a little bit about Quillen sal killed earlier
Speaker 4: on and Benil Daryusha at one point had an eight
Speaker 4: fight UFC lightweight winning streak. He's now lost four of
Speaker 4: five and had an early moment and but what do
Speaker 4: you make of this? Uh this Ousie Quill and sal
Speaker 4: Kild sort of taking this fifty five pound division by storm.
Speaker 2: Oh listen, that was a perfect fight to see where
Speaker 2: he's at. And he came through in flying colors. That's
Speaker 2: about it. But I mean, I think Benil's how old
Speaker 2: is see now he's he's getting up there. And once
Speaker 2: you get on those losing streaks, man, it is you
Speaker 2: know somebody I saw something the other day with I
Speaker 2: guess champs that have lost and they just it just
Speaker 2: it just continued. You continue to lose it. It's it's
Speaker 2: hard to break. At this point. I think he's got
Speaker 2: to look at you know, probably retiring soon. He's what
Speaker 2: a super nice guy that he's just a gat I mean,
Speaker 2: I think that was part of his problem. It just
Speaker 2: wasn't what the UFC wanted to promote. I think because
Speaker 2: he deserved probably a shot, you know, well the fight
Speaker 2: win streak and I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, just wrong division right, and said yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 4: could be it too. Yeah, he's been a little bit
Speaker 4: exposed against the Eliite fighters that he has faced recently.
Speaker 4: He has that Hanato moy Kano win fairly recently, but
Speaker 4: otherwise the Oli of Eas Sarwakians, these guys have proven
Speaker 4: to be on a different level than him. But it
Speaker 4: is interesting when you think about a transition in Australia
Speaker 4: and you know, the transition from say Volkanovsky to Jack
Speaker 4: Della Mattelena, and all of a sudden, now Jack has
Speaker 4: lost to in a row Volkes the champion again. I
Speaker 4: do see Quillan Salkild, who is still very green, as
Speaker 4: a guy who can really carry the torch for this nation.
Speaker 3: Kenny.
Speaker 4: It's a tough division, right, I mean, Benny Daryush want
Speaker 4: eight fights in a row and didn't even get to
Speaker 4: number two or three in the world.
Speaker 3: You know, but I do even Clintalkild, I really do.
Speaker 3: I do too. You know. It seems like he's got
Speaker 3: the right mentality. He has a variety of skills as
Speaker 3: well on the ground, on the feet, massive for the division,
Speaker 3: you know, really good size lightweight. But yeah, that division
Speaker 3: is crazy, so much talent. But if there's a guy
Speaker 3: that can represent at a high level and prove that
Speaker 3: he's elite. I think it's sell killed for sure. He
Speaker 3: called out me Cam Yeah, and again like who's calling
Speaker 3: out Gamran? Like that's a tough matchup for anybody. He
Speaker 3: could be a nightmare if he's able to, you know,
Speaker 3: get you down repeatedly. And it shows what kind of
Speaker 3: confidence he has. And again, this isn't a guy who's
Speaker 3: been in the UFC for four or five years. He's
Speaker 3: still relatively fresh to the UFC. And I think it
Speaker 3: shows the confidence that he has in himself and that
Speaker 3: his team has in him as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is interesting when you could call out somebody
Speaker 4: like Paddy Pimblet, for example, And I do believe that
Speaker 4: Paddy Pimblet is a force with whom to be reckoned
Speaker 4: for sure. But you gotta have something in your thought process,
Speaker 4: Kennedy to call out Mattauj Gamra, right that maybe you're
Speaker 4: thinking like he doesn't have the power on the feet
Speaker 4: to knock me out. And I believe enough in my
Speaker 4: grappling technique and strength and submission ability in my own right,
Speaker 4: you know that Maybe that's why you know, because it
Speaker 4: was very calculated and sal Kill doesn't miss a beat
Speaker 4: or hesitate for a second to call him out.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think, first of all, that's just
Speaker 3: really smart business sense to go and do that. Having
Speaker 3: a name, very specific name that you want to fight
Speaker 3: again shows his level of confidence, but also perhaps shows
Speaker 3: that he has a ladder in mind to get there.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like, before I face a Sarukian or before I
Speaker 3: face kind of the elite wrestlers, let me take a
Speaker 3: guy who's maybe just a step underneath there and Gamron
Speaker 3: and prove to everybody that I'm a problem for wrestlers
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: So smart, I tell you guys a spot on today. Man,
Speaker 2: I like it. This is good.
Speaker 3: I got my thrown coffee before the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leg behind. I got nothing over you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I promise, I promise that we're going to take
Speaker 4: care of you with the Throne Sport coffee. We might
Speaker 4: just have to suspend it a week because you chose
Speaker 4: to acknowledge one of their.
Speaker 2: Wait First off, I one hundred apologize.
Speaker 3: Apologies, no no clue.
Speaker 4: So, speaking of apologies, tay to Ivasa apologizing to his
Speaker 4: fans for a seventh successive loss. And uh, I think
Speaker 4: this one stings in particular because it's now back to
Speaker 4: back training camps in which he has put in the
Speaker 4: work and it hasn't. Kenny produced the desire result and
Speaker 4: it's a lot of red stripes on the wikiped page.
Speaker 3: I was cheering for him so hard while watching that
Speaker 3: fight because I tell you what he has been putting
Speaker 3: in the work. He has been It was clear that
Speaker 3: he was way more adamant about not staying still when
Speaker 3: someone hit a takedown on him. He was scrambling his
Speaker 3: big heart out to try to get back to his feet.
Speaker 3: He was, you know, you could tell he was working
Speaker 3: the ground game, all that stuff he's wrestling, but it
Speaker 3: just wasn't going his way. And I will say this
Speaker 3: for any other fighters that are that are you know
Speaker 3: maybe hearing this is that this is why you don't
Speaker 3: have those camps where you take them off because it
Speaker 3: may maybe it doesn't click in one camp or two
Speaker 3: camps or three camps. And if you took those camps
Speaker 3: off before, and you're going, oh shit, now I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta scramble for the for the test. I didn't
Speaker 3: do my homework during you know, all these years, and
Speaker 3: now I gotta like cram for the test. It rarely
Speaker 3: goes your way, guys, So stay working all the time.
Speaker 3: And it's clear that he has been working recently, but
Speaker 3: if he was working a couple years ago, that be
Speaker 3: paying off now.
Speaker 4: I think, in my opinion, maybe Ty would agree with that,
Speaker 4: but it shows he has talent.
Speaker 3: He has talent. Maybe wasn't always you know, laser focus
Speaker 3: with his training, but man I fell for it because
Speaker 3: he was doing the right things. He was attempting to
Speaker 3: doing the right things. You see the hunger when he
Speaker 3: was fighting. He just wasn't able to pull it off.
Speaker 3: And in this game it's way too complicated and tough
Speaker 3: and it takes a few camps for it to really
Speaker 3: click to where you can execute it in a fight.
Speaker 2: Right. And Kenny does one thing you said, Look, it's
Speaker 2: that winner learn for a lot of the first time
Speaker 2: he lost like that, that was the time to start,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I got you know
Speaker 2: from my experience, Like the biggest guy that ever demonstrated
Speaker 2: that to me was Morob. I mean, he had a
Speaker 2: lot of not a lot of losses, but anytime he
Speaker 2: lost the next day, he was back in there correcting
Speaker 2: it anytime. And he he defines that saying win or learn,
Speaker 2: because he one million percent did uh And I expect
Speaker 2: him to do it again for the next gen fight,
Speaker 2: but uh, ty to of it, he had to go
Speaker 2: back at that time. One camp ain't doing anything. I'll
Speaker 2: be honest with you. You know, look, if you if
Speaker 2: you got a short minute, you know, if you got
Speaker 2: like a big opportunity, yeah you try to do it.
Speaker 2: But to think that you could bridge the gap with
Speaker 2: some of these guys that have been doing this shit
Speaker 2: their whole life in one camp is just nothing short
Speaker 2: of delusional. Unless you're a super talent. I mean, you'd
Speaker 2: have to be a unique individual, right.
Speaker 4: My parents were always preaching like stick tuitiveness, like stick
Speaker 4: the fuck to it. And you know, I said when
Speaker 4: I started hot yoga that if I get to one
Speaker 4: hundred classes and I can't do some of these fucking
Speaker 4: poses and balance, then I'm out. And I was getting
Speaker 4: very frustrated around class forty five, and then I had
Speaker 4: a little bit of a breakthrough and maybe you know,
Speaker 4: started to not look like the worst student in the class,
Speaker 4: and I started to think, not unlike a jiu jitsu mentality,
Speaker 4: like wait a second, this might actually work out, but yes,
Speaker 4: you can't cheat the developmental time. And I think for
Speaker 4: tie as many amazing training camps as there have been
Speaker 4: in the United Arab Emirates. There's been a lot of
Speaker 4: recreational time as well. And you know, you can't cheat
Speaker 4: this game.
Speaker 3: If R. J.
Speaker 4: Clifford was on here today, Ray, he was gonna suggest
Speaker 4: that bare knuckle boxing would be uh an arena in
Speaker 4: which Tie could realize a lot of success and.
Speaker 2: Financially not a bid suggestion. Yeah, yeah, because what he's
Speaker 2: got to stick it to what he does at least decently,
Speaker 2: and he can. He does have pout that's actually a
Speaker 2: perfect uh Yeah, I think he hit that nail right
Speaker 2: on the head.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: He's got the style, he's got the personality.
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't have.
Speaker 4: Genetically the biggest heavyweight hands, right, I'm sure again some
Speaker 4: fans will be like, dude, yeah, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: like no, I'm just saying no. But some of these guys,
Speaker 4: when they shake your head right, like Dan Henderson, it
Speaker 4: still hurts, you know what I mean. Like, I'm just
Speaker 4: saying that when I think about heavyweights, overwhelmingly, a lot
Speaker 4: of these guys like Georgina Rosenstrike will just stick his
Speaker 4: hand out and it hurts, you know. So I don't
Speaker 4: know the tie, I'm just in a bare knuckle setting
Speaker 4: that is actually a big Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that's a I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: starting to think, but that is a huge factor when
Speaker 2: you have a fucking mid.
Speaker 3: On you man.
Speaker 4: Wellchie has about it, and go Chie's hands are just
Speaker 4: they feel like rocks, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 4: just everybody's got.
Speaker 2: Chi. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would say for a lightweight there
Speaker 4: above average, but rock bone density.
Speaker 2: You know. You know what fight fascinating me was the
Speaker 2: two heavyweights.
Speaker 4: The the Brando Parachitchen Shamilaz He fight to night.
Speaker 2: I think I fight yeah more on such weird times.
Speaker 2: I was trying to follow as much as I could,
Speaker 2: but uh but dude, how do you get rid of?
Speaker 2: I mean the punishment that other guy took with clean shots,
Speaker 2: Like what do you do with that?
Speaker 3: I was looking at those guys. I'm like, that's why
Speaker 3: I carry guns.
Speaker 2: You know what do you think? You think You're punching
Speaker 2: that guy in the head on the street without breaking
Speaker 2: your hand and he's just gonna laugh at you.
Speaker 3: I mean, he imagine that guy on Beth It's like,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? Zombie? That is a giant zombie.
Speaker 2: Oh good god, I cannot. His head was snapping back
Speaker 2: goldie indicators that he's going out, and he still managed
Speaker 2: to Uh yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: That was the They landed like twenty knockout punches on
Speaker 3: each other. Got any other normal human beings, it was, and.
Speaker 2: He almost came back. He cut it looked like he
Speaker 2: was gonna turn it around.
Speaker 4: One hundred thousand dollars in bonus money. Oh good for
Speaker 4: his efforts.
Speaker 3: He deserved that.
Speaker 2: When that was one of those fights, when the guy
Speaker 2: had him against the cage, I'm like, I let him
Speaker 2: stay there for another thirty seconds so we can get
Speaker 2: more of them, we can get more of what we're saying.
Speaker 2: I let him, let him charge up, and then throw
Speaker 2: him out there again. Oh my god, it was I
Speaker 2: thought that was crazy, crazy, crazy.
Speaker 4: So of all the chaos that ensued at my daughter's
Speaker 4: uh wayward party this weekend. You know, the second officer
Speaker 4: that showed up, who's actually a detective, he was just
Speaker 4: doing a little overtime, you know. I see that cauliflower here.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, we are in business now, train Ryan,
Speaker 4: you train officer, you know, and uh, but it's always
Speaker 4: great when you see the man in and the jiu
Speaker 4: jitsu practitioner's been doing jiu jitsu for ten years, and
Speaker 4: I asked him, you know how much more confidence does
Speaker 4: that give you out in the streets? You know, choke
Speaker 4: one of these young motherfuckers out in a blink, can't
Speaker 4: she y? How's your rear naked show? Crying?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: It solved so many problems, even just I said not
Speaker 3: to get off track too much, but getting handcuffs on people,
Speaker 3: that's where I see police officers struggle so badly. Their
Speaker 3: ability to control a guy who does not want to
Speaker 3: be controlled, or doesn't want to get into a car,
Speaker 3: doesn't want to you know, And that jiu jitsu or
Speaker 3: wrestling background is a huge advantage for police officers.
Speaker 2: The problem that too, Kenny, is the police officers are
Speaker 2: handcuffed themselves.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't do this, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something, man. On that like
Speaker 2: growing up in the like the seventies and the eighties,
Speaker 2: holy shit, you got out of line. You would get like,
Speaker 2: yeah something. And I'm gonna say, as weird as this sounds,
Speaker 2: i'dn't to go back to that. I'd like to go
Speaker 2: back to those days guys are getting away with murder.
Speaker 2: I just I don't like it. I mean, I have
Speaker 2: had a buddy of mine's got a script. He's gonna
Speaker 2: start shooting the movie soon. But it's based on his
Speaker 2: life story in like nineteen eighty two and he went
Speaker 2: out with a girl. The fault didn't like him. He
Speaker 2: was a cop. He threw light a fluid on him
Speaker 2: and threatened to threaten to set him on fire. Like
Speaker 2: it's and I'm like, that's the shit that happened. Like
Speaker 2: if you did something to like a CoP's kid or
Speaker 2: something back, you were getting pulled over every half hour,
Speaker 2: they would just tort you. Now again that's successive. I
Speaker 2: don't like that. But there's got to be a common ground,
Speaker 2: like you know, And I think what always happens is
Speaker 2: it's so far one way, you got to bring it
Speaker 2: all the way back the other way instead of in
Speaker 2: the middle. But those guys are handcuffed now, and who
Speaker 2: the hell wants to be a cop? You could you
Speaker 2: could end up in jail trying to do your job,
Speaker 2: and I think that's horrifying.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been handcuffed?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Wow, how about that?
Speaker 2: I'm listen you pull, I'm throwing the keys on the
Speaker 2: you know whatever.
Speaker 4: Not even the golden handcuffs, because your wife has an
Speaker 4: amazing job as well.
Speaker 2: Those hands, those handcuffs are on. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 2: you would metaphorically.
Speaker 3: Before we let you go.
Speaker 4: First of all, I'm sorry I didn't call you back
Speaker 4: this week. The answer is yes to every.
Speaker 3: Good thank your voicemail.
Speaker 4: The answers always yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I feel weird. I think we gotta
Speaker 2: something in the future, you know, if we could have
Speaker 2: two seconds of your time this week?
Speaker 4: Yes, Numbered event pay per view weeks are always a
Speaker 4: great time to get on them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where are you are? You're in Jersey this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my friend down the street. We will take care
Speaker 4: of all of that. And uh, I don't say figured
Speaker 4: of that. You're the star of the show. You literally
Speaker 4: are the star of the show. So the answer when
Speaker 4: you need something, or want something or have an idea
Speaker 4: on the podcast, the answer is always yes. But before
Speaker 4: we let you go. Kamzaschimayev, who is fighting this weekend.
Speaker 4: I listened to his walkout song on repeat on the
Speaker 4: treadmill the entire time this morning. Ah, he's the most
Speaker 4: electrifying force in the fight game, at least as far
Speaker 4: as I'm concerned. Dana White myself, others have said we
Speaker 4: have never seen anything like him, and he is a
Speaker 4: five to one favorite to retain the belt in his
Speaker 4: first defense against Sean Strickland. Ray, what are your expectations
Speaker 4: for the main events Saturday night?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Man, I tell you. The thing that bothers me is
Speaker 2: there's people that saw those training sessions that have a
Speaker 2: good idea of what's going to happen, and unfortunately all
Speaker 2: three of us haven't been there. But I like the
Speaker 2: way Strickland's been talking. I don't know, I hope he's
Speaker 2: not just selling the fight because he sounds very confident.
Speaker 3: But uh, I sounds like quite defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll get off the fence. But
Speaker 2: he's a five to one favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think you think it's juicy, Ray, Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: you see some potential in Strickland.
Speaker 2: True, I gotta go with this. True blooded American.
Speaker 4: Has four hundred, so a one hundred dollars better.
Speaker 2: I'm betting on Strickland, all right. I like I like uh,
Speaker 2: I like his whole stick, I like everything. But Uh.
Speaker 2: The thing that bothers me is this guy's training with
Speaker 2: that guy that what's his name, Calvina?
Speaker 4: Oh the garage, Sure, yeah, I don't I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: a few for a few camps now, ray, yeah, camps.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool. I just hope he's second or third board
Speaker 2: and there's no p peo bulls ship anything like that,
Speaker 2: because it looks like the testing is uh, become way
Speaker 2: more than it used to be. But it could because
Speaker 2: I'm out of the loop a little bit. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. I always had guys in the gym sitting there,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it just didn't seem like the same thing
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that's fair. All right, Well, we'll
Speaker 4: see how it all shakes out this weekend. You will
Speaker 4: not be at UFC three twenty eight, I take it.
Speaker 4: I will not be there, Okay, all right, buddy. Well
Speaker 4: we hope to see you for a show at the
Speaker 4: gym in the not too distant future. But thank you
Speaker 4: for your time today as always.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and we're working on that. I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put together. I be awesome.
Speaker 3: Your phone on, I'll call you later.
Speaker 4: Today might be the UFC Hall of fame calling you
Speaker 4: better keep your phone on.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting. Let's go. Take it easy, guys, Take it easy.
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Speaker 3: How we do it?
Speaker 5: Never better? John, thank you for having me. Welcome and
Speaker 5: glad to be here again. Kenny shout out. I'll be
Speaker 5: there this weekend, so I'm excited to go for this card. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're flying us out so I'll be taping from there
Speaker 5: later in the week. So this is a card I've
Speaker 5: really been working on for a little bit, so excited
Speaker 5: to cover.
Speaker 4: Well, this is amazing. So UFC on the Line will
Speaker 4: be live taping in Newark, New Jersey. Have you taken
Speaker 4: that show on the road.
Speaker 5: Before, Yeah, to Vancouver. We did it up to Vancouver
Speaker 5: and that was it and this came by surprise, so yeah, really.
Speaker 4: Oh that's great and obviously you've got some East Coast roots.
Speaker 4: You must be pumped to be coming back.
Speaker 5: Indeed, about an hour plus away from Philly and New
Speaker 5: York City, so yeah, a lot of close friends around
Speaker 5: that vicinity. I'm excited to be there, staying about five
Speaker 5: days because I want to do a little traveling.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: Well, the listeners and viewers were very appreciative of your
Speaker 4: analysis for UFC three twenty seven. We asked you to
Speaker 4: pick nine fights. It'll just be five today. But before
Speaker 4: we get started, Aaron Judge, I don't know if you've
Speaker 4: been paying attention, but since you were on the air,
Speaker 4: he's hit ten fucking home runs, so ten, he's had
Speaker 4: ten in the last fucking proofs, So I don't know if.
Speaker 5: You're taking he gave He gave that pick out early early.
Speaker 4: All right, everybody, Aaron judge al MVP. The price is
Speaker 4: not as sweet as it was. All right, lightweight division,
Speaker 4: we do have some big numbers on the main card.
Speaker 4: This is one of them. King Green minus three zero five,
Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens plus two forty five Yanni. A lot of paperwork,
Speaker 4: a lot of film on both of these guys. Stevens,
Speaker 4: out of the UFC for four years, returned against Mason
Speaker 4: Jones last May and his native Des Moines, Iowa. Hasn't
Speaker 4: won spending his last seven UFC fights, but there's been
Speaker 4: a lot of time outside of the octagon and other
Speaker 4: endeavors and initiatives. What are your thoughts on Green and
Speaker 4: Stevens under the lights this week?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a tough fight because of the price.
Speaker 5: And here's what I mean. You're looking at King Green's
Speaker 5: side obviously the rightful favorite. You touched on it. We've
Speaker 5: only seen Jeremy Stevens fight once since twenty twenty one
Speaker 5: at the UFC level, and prior to that he had
Speaker 5: come in it was like against Gamra, against Cador, against
Speaker 5: yat ear top level guys. On the flip side, we've
Speaker 5: seen Green of late. He's coming off a very impressive
Speaker 5: win against Zel Huber in a fight he was not
Speaker 5: expected to win a plus three to fifty dog in
Speaker 5: fact right, and prior to that, it was a fight
Speaker 5: he was supposed to when it was supposed to be
Speaker 5: easy against Gibson, where he went off at two to
Speaker 5: one and he got a split decision. But it's the
Speaker 5: activity of Green that you have to like, coupled by
Speaker 5: the fact that when you get to the Stevens side,
Speaker 5: it's again a negative strike differential against Green is a problem,
Speaker 5: and I don't think he's going to be able to
Speaker 5: implement that ground game that's going to give Green any
Speaker 5: type of issues where he'll be able to take them down,
Speaker 5: control them, sub them, anything like that. I think Green
Speaker 5: systematically starts to break Stevens down by outlanding him, and
Speaker 5: the question is whether he gets them out of there
Speaker 5: or not. The price is keeping me off it. If
Speaker 5: I have to pick the winners, obviously the Green side
Speaker 5: minus three hundreds should win, but I can't get to
Speaker 5: where there's value because I got to conclude he wins
Speaker 5: this fight four out of five times, and I just
Speaker 5: can't get there with a guy that's, you know, a
Speaker 5: couple of fights above five hundred in the UFC and
Speaker 5: with Stevens, just too many questions, marks going way out
Speaker 5: on that risk curve, decent plus on the take back,
Speaker 5: but just not enough to interest me. For me, it's
Speaker 5: a kind of fight I'm going to pass on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I expect Green to win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't expect a ton of people to be
Speaker 4: salivated to get action on this one. A few other
Speaker 4: numbers for you. Kenny thirty ath UFC appearance for King Green.
Speaker 4: He'll be forty in September, had nineteen pro mma wins
Speaker 4: when he arrived in the UFC in twenty thirteen. Jeremy Stevens,
Speaker 4: as many of you know, made UFC debut on his
Speaker 4: twenty first birthday at UFC seventy one back in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven. He will also be forty actually later
Speaker 4: this month on May twenty fifth, King Green, Monastery of Thought,
Speaker 4: Jeremy sevens plus two forty five kemphlip.
Speaker 3: You know, I see it a little differently. I think
Speaker 3: that you have two thirty nine year olds going at it.
Speaker 3: I think that Jeremy Stevens has had a rough patch,
Speaker 3: hit a rough patch in the UFC going against two grapplers,
Speaker 3: and Mason Jones and Gamrot never going to be a
Speaker 3: good matchup for him. But he's going against a guy
Speaker 3: in King Green who's going to be willing to stand
Speaker 3: up with him. You're also going against a guy in
Speaker 3: King Green who loves to keep his hands down low.
Speaker 3: He will not change that style for anybody. It's a
Speaker 3: part of who he is. It's a part of baiting
Speaker 3: people in Do you want to do that against a
Speaker 3: guy like Jeremy Stevens who has that kind of power.
Speaker 3: I don't think Jeremy is as fast as he used
Speaker 3: to be, but I don't think his power has left
Speaker 3: him at this stage of his game. So I think
Speaker 3: I think there's some value on Jeremy Stephens' side. Why
Speaker 3: just because you have two grapplers that are two strikers,
Speaker 3: sorry that you know are are gonna throw down, and
Speaker 3: Jeremy Stevens, I think is the more potent striker. I
Speaker 3: think he's got more power than Ken Green, is more unorthodox.
Speaker 3: For sure, he's gonna be an awkward out, but I
Speaker 3: think Jeremy Stevens has a shot, And for that reason,
Speaker 3: I think I think it's a little juicy, not a
Speaker 3: lot of juicy, but I think it's a.
Speaker 4: Little little juicy al right. Next up on the main
Speaker 4: Car live on Paramount Plus this weekend. In the welshweight division,
Speaker 4: Sean Brady minus one eighty five. New Mantlewakeing Buckley is
Speaker 4: plus one fifty four. So Brady number six in the
Speaker 4: world as of this tape and could go down a
Speaker 4: peg or two because of Carlos protest. Who will be
Speaker 4: number one or number two? I would think so Brady
Speaker 4: Fott just once in twenty twenty two, lost to Bla Mohamed,
Speaker 4: once in twenty twenty three, a win over Kelvin Gasolum,
Speaker 4: once in twenty twenty four, a win over Gilbert Arino Burns,
Speaker 4: and then last year Yanni the win over Leon Edwards
Speaker 4: followed by the loss to Michael Morales. Massive spot for
Speaker 4: him here Againstjaucke Buckley, who is also coming off a
Speaker 4: loss against Kamara Usman. Big things at one seventy strong
Speaker 4: lean either way for you, Yanni the Greek.
Speaker 5: Not a very strong lean, but I think there's some
Speaker 5: value because this fight's a lot closer than a coin
Speaker 5: flip than either guy being close to a two to
Speaker 5: one favorite. It's gonna come down to who gets to
Speaker 5: implement their game, and you're looking at a contrast of styles.
Speaker 5: We know what you're getting with Buckley wants to keep
Speaker 5: it standing. He wants to use his power, he wants
Speaker 5: to use his reach and the athleticism where you know
Speaker 5: what Brady wants to do wants to take you down.
Speaker 5: He wants to control you and try to get you
Speaker 5: out of there with submissions. That's the bottom line, or
Speaker 5: even you know, some ground and pounds, it's will Buckley
Speaker 5: be able to keep it standing? He's faced close to
Speaker 5: fifty takedown so far into UFC and stuffed you know,
Speaker 5: seven out of ten of those, so chances are it
Speaker 5: may be taken down. But will he be controlled? Hasn't
Speaker 5: been controlled all that long? Fifteen percent of the minutes
Speaker 5: he's grampling it that he has been controlled, So will
Speaker 5: Brady be able to control him? The thing that sticks
Speaker 5: out to me is each round starts standing, and that's
Speaker 5: where Buckley's gonna have the huge advantage. He's gonna have
Speaker 5: a four inch reach. The power edge is there when
Speaker 5: you look at the knockdown ratio, knockdown Ray all in
Speaker 5: favor of Buckley, and I think again it's it's a
Speaker 5: lot closer to a coin flip that the question is
Speaker 5: both these guys who they fought of late, Like this
Speaker 5: is a big fight for both of them, coming off
Speaker 5: the Morales loss on for Brady's side and the Ousman
Speaker 5: loss on the Buckley side. But prior to that, the
Speaker 5: names they were beaten was like Covington, Thompson, Luke A
Speaker 5: and then on the Brady side it's Burns gastolom A
Speaker 5: lost to Muhammad. I think this is a step up
Speaker 5: for both guys because of when they're facing each other
Speaker 5: as far as the point in their career. That's why
Speaker 5: I think it's a lot closer to a coin flip.
Speaker 5: Brady should be the favorite, but I don't think he
Speaker 5: should be about a one seventy one to eighty one
Speaker 5: ninety favorite because that says he wins this fight two
Speaker 5: out of three times. It's a little bit too much
Speaker 5: for me. Closer to sixty forty at worse. Give me
Speaker 5: plus one fifty or better on Buckley and I got
Speaker 5: to take it. In fact, it like plus one thirty
Speaker 5: one forty. I think there's some value, so plus money.
Speaker 2: I like the dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nicely laid out. Joaquin Buckley just turned thirty two.
Speaker 4: Kenny maybe not even in his fighting prime, spent some
Speaker 4: time at Kilcliffe FC during this training camp. Very hard
Speaker 4: worker just like Brady and has been the far more
Speaker 4: active guy. Went six and oh did Buckley combine in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3: What do you make of this one? Ken Flow, Sean Brady,
Speaker 3: Joaquin Buckley. Yanni let me bang bro took all my analysis.
Speaker 3: That was spot on, dude, amazing job. I agree with
Speaker 3: a lot of what Yanni said, man. I think it's
Speaker 3: a phenomenal breakdown. I think there's a lot of value
Speaker 3: on Buckley. Why well, even though he's coming off that
Speaker 3: loss against Kamara Uzman, he trained with Kamorrow. I think
Speaker 3: that that was an eye opening experience for him. And
Speaker 3: we talked earlier about fighters learning from their mistakes or
Speaker 3: learning from their losses. I think Buckley's one of those guys.
Speaker 3: I think he is as competitive as they come. I
Speaker 3: think his size advantage and strength advantage will come into
Speaker 3: play here. Because Brady tends to bully a lot of
Speaker 3: guys out there. I'm not sure he can bully Buckley now.
Speaker 3: I think he can out technique Buckley on the ground
Speaker 3: if he can get it there. But I think a
Speaker 3: lot of it is going to come down to maybe
Speaker 3: that first round. Can he get off to a good
Speaker 3: start and gain some confidence coming off that last tough
Speaker 3: loss to Morales. So if Brady can get off to
Speaker 3: a good start, I think that's a good sign. But
Speaker 3: I think Buckley, you know, it's going to be important
Speaker 3: for him to get his footwork going and stop those
Speaker 3: takedowns to send a message. I like Buckley here. I
Speaker 3: think it's worth again sprinkling a little money. I think
Speaker 3: Buckley's got value for sure.
Speaker 4: All right, Buckley plus one point fifty four or so.
Speaker 4: Right now, we'll see where that number is as we
Speaker 4: approach closing time later this week. Now to a heavyweight
Speaker 4: matchup Alexander Volcom minus one seventy wall though cortez Acosta
Speaker 4: is plus one forty two Yanni the Dominican republished. Cortez
Speaker 4: Acosta has won three in a row eight of his
Speaker 4: last nine, only lost in there on points to Sergey Pavlovich.
Speaker 4: Now he draws the Towering Drago.
Speaker 3: What do you make of this one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he got a lot of recency bias
Speaker 5: on the side of Volkoff coming off that al Maia
Speaker 5: win in a fight he was expected to win. At
Speaker 5: least that's what the market thought. He opened about a
Speaker 5: two to one underdog. Now, sharp money did come in
Speaker 5: on the volkoff side, and they got that one right
Speaker 5: because he closed it about plus one fifty five. So
Speaker 5: this is the guy's won five of six fights, but
Speaker 5: on the flip side with a Costa. He's out for
Speaker 5: forming the betting market in this spot now winning eight
Speaker 5: of his last nine fights. But this is what I like.
Speaker 5: It was a dog against Bivok, dog against Pavlovitch, dog
Speaker 5: even against Daleya opened the point flip against Gazebe, and
Speaker 5: obviously he was favored to beat Derek Lewis. But here's
Speaker 5: why I bring those prices up because we have a
Speaker 5: common opponent, and that's the Pavlovich fight. Both men opened
Speaker 5: at pretty much the same price, so the odds makers
Speaker 5: thought they should be about a two to one dog.
Speaker 5: The market thought about the same things. Not much money
Speaker 5: on either guy. Each closed about plus two hundred. So
Speaker 5: here's what I'm getting at. Vocolf gets to win against Pavlovich,
Speaker 5: Costa loses against Pavlovich, but the prices were the same.
Speaker 5: That's what sticks out to me. The odds makers agreed,
Speaker 5: and then we the market also agreed. The result is
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. They could have fought that three days later
Speaker 5: and a completely different outcome could have happened. It's not
Speaker 5: the result, it's the price that sticks out to me.
Speaker 5: So we all thought it's very similar, and I think
Speaker 5: stylistically Kenny will break it down better. But I think
Speaker 5: we're looking at more or less the same thing. For me,
Speaker 5: this is a lot closer to a coin flip. Another
Speaker 5: closer to a coin flip than one where side it
Speaker 5: should be two to one. Like vocolf I don't think
Speaker 5: he should be a two to one favorite at plus money.
Speaker 5: I like the Cortes side. I think this line's a
Speaker 5: little bit too high. So for me, I like the
Speaker 5: big guy to get the w can't flook ahead.
Speaker 3: Man. I love the breakdown, and I agree with you
Speaker 3: yet again here Yanni. I think Volkov. I love Volkov,
Speaker 3: the improvements that he's made of the course of his career,
Speaker 3: his size, all that stuff. You know, that quiet warrior vibe,
Speaker 3: that Russian stoic. He is a problem and he's extremely dangerous.
Speaker 3: The problem is, even in the fights that he looks great,
Speaker 3: there's always at least one or two strikes per round,
Speaker 3: where I'm like, he should not be taking those shots
Speaker 3: and fighting a guy like Waldo Cortez Acosta. He cannot
Speaker 3: allow Waldo Courts as a costa to land some of
Speaker 3: those shots because that might be the last one he takes.
Speaker 3: I think Acosta's got a great shot at winning, and
Speaker 3: maybe winning by knockout Volkov's defense. Sometimes there's a lot
Speaker 3: to be desired there. His offense is phenomenal, But how
Speaker 3: long is it going to be until Waldo Courts Acosta
Speaker 3: starts to find his rhythm in his timing and lands
Speaker 3: one of those big shots. So I think, without a
Speaker 3: doubt there's value on the Dominican for sure. So give
Speaker 3: me court to Zacosta, all right?
Speaker 4: Lot of agreement today. We'll see if that extends to
Speaker 4: the two title fights to close out the card at
Speaker 4: UFC three twenty eight, first of which will be for
Speaker 4: the undisputed UFC flyweight title. Tatsuro Tyro was north of
Speaker 4: two to one. He is now minus one sixty six
Speaker 4: as the betting favorite against the incumbent Joshua Van who
Speaker 4: is plus one forty. First title shot Yanni for Tyra
Speaker 4: first titled defense for the twenty four year old Joshua Van.
Speaker 4: This was initially slated to go down in Miami last month.
Speaker 4: Now it shall be done in Newark and we'll see
Speaker 4: which young guy emerges as the flyweight champion. I have
Speaker 4: no idea who's going to win this fight. The only
Speaker 4: thing that I believed was that Tyra would close as
Speaker 4: the betting favorite. Money has seemingly come in on Van.
Speaker 4: The price has come down a little bit. Yanni, the
Speaker 4: Greek who leaves Newark, New Jersey, is the unisputed UFC
Speaker 4: flyweight champ.
Speaker 5: Well, the books are always going to have the advantage
Speaker 5: over the better when fights get rebooked. Here's why they
Speaker 5: all read. You know, number one, what the sharp betterers
Speaker 5: are going to react, how they're going to react, and
Speaker 5: they know what the bunk it's going to do, how
Speaker 5: we're going to react to the price. So they have
Speaker 5: that advantage that we already bet into the Van versus
Speaker 5: t ear of mad Job. I was a little bit
Speaker 5: surprised that after we booken, since it was the Van
Speaker 5: side that had to pull out, that this line dropped
Speaker 5: so significantly to where you have now you know, tire
Speaker 5: around that one fifty one sixty range instead of moving
Speaker 5: the other way. But also rarely do you get where
Speaker 5: the challenger is favored over the title holder. But this
Speaker 5: is another example that we see in other sports all
Speaker 5: the time where the number you know three team is
Speaker 5: a dog to the number fifteen team. Why because power
Speaker 5: rating wise is all that matters to the odds maker.
Speaker 5: It's not about perception or narratives or anything like that.
Speaker 5: And what sticks out here is another situation, just like
Speaker 5: we touched on where we have a common opponent and
Speaker 5: I'm an opponent. Here is Ravov, both face for Evolve.
Speaker 5: The difference is Taira opened the two to one favorite.
Speaker 5: We the market bet him up to a three to
Speaker 5: one favorite, and he didn't get the w but we
Speaker 5: thought he wins that fight three out of four times.
Speaker 5: Everyone in Bob thought that flip side of that Van
Speaker 5: fights roy Va minus one twenty five favorite closed about
Speaker 5: minus one thirty right around where it opened, So the
Speaker 5: market all agreed he should win that fight about fifty
Speaker 5: five percent at a time, where we thought Tyra should
Speaker 5: win about seventy five percent at a time against Rayva.
Speaker 5: The difference is, again Van beats roy Va, Tyra doesn't
Speaker 5: beat ray vaugh The oddsmakers don't care about that single result.
Speaker 5: Once again, they're looking at the power ratings which have
Speaker 5: Taira above the Van side, and to me, that's what
Speaker 5: sticks out here. This one's still at flyway. Let's not forget.
Speaker 5: And we have another contrast to styles, with the striking
Speaker 5: of Van against the drappling of Tay. I don't think
Speaker 5: that Van's gonna have the advantages in the striking as
Speaker 5: great as the advantages Tierra is gonna have on the ground.
Speaker 5: That sticks out a lot to me. And I think
Speaker 5: even in the striking, you can't forget we're talking about flyways,
Speaker 5: and even though the narratives Van comes in packing power,
Speaker 5: he's right around that flyway average as far as finishing
Speaker 5: inside the distance in his UFC career, So it's not
Speaker 5: like he's a one shot knocked out power each and
Speaker 5: every fight. I think Tier is able to withstand any
Speaker 5: kind of danger from the Van stand up, and I
Speaker 5: think when he takes him down and you do see
Speaker 5: that he's levels above in the grappling, eventually he does
Speaker 5: get the takedown secures. You know, he's good with those triangles,
Speaker 5: good with taking the back. I like Taira here anything
Speaker 5: less than two to one. I think it's the right.
Speaker 4: Side, nicely laid out as usual. Yeah, Tatsurotira. Kenny also
Speaker 4: has just become a monster physically. I couldn't believe how
Speaker 4: good he looked, just in terms of the US and
Speaker 4: the strength and conditioning when he fought Brandon Moreno at
Speaker 4: UFC three twenty three, and that win kind of made
Speaker 4: him undeniable. He surpassed Manel cop in a lot of respects,
Speaker 4: and now the challenger is favored to become the undisputed
Speaker 4: Flyway champion. Joshua Van on the other side, trying to hold,
Speaker 4: serve and successfully defend the title.
Speaker 3: Kenfila, who do you like in the comin? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: first of all, a really interesting hearing Yanni attack it
Speaker 3: from that angle, I see it a little differently. Listen
Speaker 3: when when I got the initial odds from you last week, John,
Speaker 3: I was kind of licking my chops at plus one
Speaker 3: seventy for Joshua Van. After I started doing some video research,
Speaker 3: I thought it made a lot of sense. And then
Speaker 3: I started doing some video research and I started looking
Speaker 3: at Joshua Van, and I said, this guy might be
Speaker 3: the most underrated striker in the UFC right now. I
Speaker 3: think he is absolutely phenomenal. I think he might be
Speaker 3: first or second. I'm probably the second best combination puncher
Speaker 3: behind top at present moment. And you know how highly
Speaker 3: I hold Toporia as a striker. I think this is
Speaker 3: a very young and composed, technical striker who if you
Speaker 3: allow him to take advantage, he's gonna run away with it.
Speaker 3: I think he is nasty. I think he's dirty when
Speaker 3: he needs to. I think he's tough. I do think
Speaker 3: that Tyra will have the advantage if this fight hits
Speaker 3: the ground. I think he's very dangerous, but gonna gets
Speaker 3: a nice, stocky, tough, strong Joshua Van. I think Van
Speaker 3: can maybe survive some of those moments. Tyra is good
Speaker 3: at taking you down, but he's not a high level wrestler,
Speaker 3: and I like Joshua Van and those spots. Van is
Speaker 3: or might be one of those guys who can, in
Speaker 3: one camp learn how to get better when it comes
Speaker 3: to wrestling and grappling. He's a phenomenal athlete, dude. And
Speaker 3: I just came away more and more oppressed, more and
Speaker 3: more impressed with every fight that I saw from Joshua Van.
Speaker 3: I said, Gosh, what am I not seeing here? What
Speaker 3: are the odds makers not seeing here? And I see
Speaker 3: a lot of value with Joshua Van. I wish it
Speaker 3: was at plus one seventy. I think there's a reason
Speaker 3: why that that price is coming down. And boy, I
Speaker 3: think not only can Joshua Van win this fight, I
Speaker 3: think there's potential for him to get Tyra out of
Speaker 3: there within three rounds. I think he's that good. Tyra
Speaker 3: needs to get off to a good start. I think
Speaker 3: Tyra needs to win this fight early, similar to that
Speaker 3: one punch knockout. He needs to take Van's back early.
Speaker 3: Get them when you know they're a little dry, get
Speaker 3: it when when he's feeling fresh. Tyra has made great
Speaker 3: strides with his striking, utilizing more long range strikes. I
Speaker 3: think he's getting better in regards to his conditioning. He
Speaker 3: does look stronger, John, I agree with you there absolutely.
Speaker 3: The fact that he's doing more of his camps here
Speaker 3: in the States, I think good sign there. And he's
Speaker 3: an impressive fighter, there is no question about it. One
Speaker 3: of the most impressive fighters that I've seen come out
Speaker 3: of Japan in a long time. I just think Joshua
Speaker 3: Van is built a little different.
Speaker 4: Tremendous co main event breakdown by both gentlemen, and we'll
Speaker 4: see who ends up winning the flyweight title fight this
Speaker 4: weekend at UFC three twenty eight. That brings us to
Speaker 4: the main event, kemp fl will have you lead us
Speaker 4: here for the undisputed midweight title commaia of minus five
Speaker 4: thirty five Sean Strickland plus four hundred first title defense
Speaker 4: for the still undefeated Chimaya have he only turned thirty
Speaker 4: two last Friday, May first, fifteen to zero not to
Speaker 4: zero in the UFC A force unlike anything we have
Speaker 4: seen in the fight game, Kenny, and he is trying
Speaker 4: to leave Newark, New Jersey the way he arrives at
Speaker 4: the undisputed Midway Champion. How to handicap the main event?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Is this fight good? It has everything? And it just
Speaker 3: a testament to the kind of star that Chimaya have
Speaker 3: is because every time he's on a pay review card,
Speaker 3: it just feels a little different. I think he's that
Speaker 3: big of a star, and man, I think he's probably
Speaker 3: gotten even hungrier as champion in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: You know when you started to become a champion, and
Speaker 3: I felt this when I was getting close to those
Speaker 3: opportunities for myself is the big advantage to me is
Speaker 3: that you get more resources, so then you can invest
Speaker 3: even more in yourself. And Chimaya's making a lot of
Speaker 3: money now and he's bringing in Olympic wrestling champs. He's
Speaker 3: he's flying here, He's flying guys in like this is
Speaker 3: a case of kind of the stronger getting stronger, right
Speaker 3: or the rich getting richer. Chimayav is kind of doing
Speaker 3: that with his camps. I think he's gonna continue to
Speaker 3: get better. And Strickland is also a problem. Who's gonna
Speaker 3: know Chimayev and maybe certain vulnerabilities better than someone like
Speaker 3: Sean Strickland. Sean Strickland is different than Drinka's duplici in that,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, he's better at scrambling to his feet.
Speaker 3: He might get taken down, but he's very good at
Speaker 3: getting right back to his feet, and that's where he
Speaker 3: could potentially tire out someone like Chimayah. Now, Chimayav I
Speaker 3: thought paced himself extremely well. Really, he was very calculated
Speaker 3: in how he approached Strick's duplicity. He showed that he
Speaker 3: can be an emotionally intelligent guy and not get overtaken
Speaker 3: by the moment or get frustrated if you know he
Speaker 3: had his moment to finish and you know the round ends,
Speaker 3: or you know his opponent get back to his feet
Speaker 3: like he was extremely efficient and composed throughout those twenty
Speaker 3: five minutes. That gave me more confidence in Timid, but
Speaker 3: Strickland I think is a threat. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's you know, juicy enough for me to lay down
Speaker 3: money on Strickland. It might be. I think people are
Speaker 3: counting out Strickland perhaps a little bit too much here.
Speaker 3: But I do think Chimia is one of those rare
Speaker 3: athletes that comes around only once in a long while,
Speaker 3: and he's undefeated for a reason. He brings a level
Speaker 3: of talent and tenacity that I think is rare, even
Speaker 3: amongst all the dangerous men that have fought inside the octagon.
Speaker 3: I think he's that special, and I think Chimayev will
Speaker 3: retain his belt. I don't know if he's able to
Speaker 3: get Strickland out of there, but if he does, I
Speaker 3: think it just shows how good he is. Because there's
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of people that can stop someone
Speaker 3: like Sean Strickland. But Chimaia, I do think he's got
Speaker 3: the grappling firepower. I also think he might have the
Speaker 3: striking power as well. I don't think he wants to
Speaker 3: get into like a combination exchanges with Strickland. That's where
Speaker 3: he can find himself in trouble, especially maybe later on
Speaker 3: in the fight. But I expect another very technical, calculated
Speaker 3: performance from Hamzat Chimai. If I think, I think, and still.
Speaker 4: Janni the Great Kamsa Chimi minus five thirty five Sean
Speaker 4: Strickland is plus four hundred tenth UFC headlining spot for
Speaker 4: Strickland his fourth UFC title fight. How do you see
Speaker 4: the main event playing out, my good man.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm interested to see when the recreational betters get
Speaker 5: to the window, what this line's going to do, because
Speaker 5: so far we've seen zero resistance, meaning usually you'll see
Speaker 5: some take back on the dog when the line moves
Speaker 5: this significantly because we've seen Chamaiev opened minus three fifty,
Speaker 5: get the four fifty up the five point fifty and
Speaker 5: zero resistance so far. So if you're going to be
Speaker 5: betting the Strickling side, I don't think there's any rush
Speaker 5: to get to the window because you're only seeing the
Speaker 5: line move in one direction. Now, the problem is betting Chimayev.
Speaker 5: How much further is this line going to move? Like
Speaker 5: for me to get down on Chamaiev right now, I
Speaker 5: got to think it's closes minus seven seven fifty eight
Speaker 5: hundred to conclude that I placed a good bet that
Speaker 5: I got good closing line value. Otherwise I'm trying to
Speaker 5: predict the outcome and you're just not going to make
Speaker 5: any money doing that. On the flip side with Stricklin,
Speaker 5: if you get down now and the line keeps moving
Speaker 5: against you like it's doing but kind of being your
Speaker 5: favor if you're taking the dog like unless it closes
Speaker 5: back down three three fifty, you're not going to get
Speaker 5: closing line value there either. So that's where the situation.
Speaker 5: We get to these big chalky matchups. The narrative is
Speaker 5: gonna get pushed, and I'm starting to hear it that
Speaker 5: Strickland's live, and I think you're gonna see a lot
Speaker 5: of betters argue that point that chimaiev'st with the cardio
Speaker 5: and Strickland's wrestling defense and it's gonna be able to
Speaker 5: not get controlled and get back like. We're gonna hear
Speaker 5: a lot of that dr in this week and I
Speaker 5: think you're gonna see some Strickland money come in, and
Speaker 5: I hope that's the case because I like the youmaya
Speaker 5: have side. Again, what how much room do we have
Speaker 5: for value? Because when you're talking about minus five thirty fives,
Speaker 5: five fifties, the money line is eighty four eighty five percent,
Speaker 5: that's the break even, so for us to think it's
Speaker 5: a good bet, I now got to conclude chimaiav wins
Speaker 5: the fight nine out of ten times, and again it's
Speaker 5: hard to get there when you get to the UFC level.
Speaker 5: The problem is, again he's just so levels ahead when
Speaker 5: you get to the Gramplin. We've seen that and it's
Speaker 5: just hard to fade him. And I love seeing any
Speaker 5: athlete in any sport who's that dominant when you know
Speaker 5: what they're gonna do and you still can't do anything
Speaker 5: about it. And we know from these guys training together
Speaker 5: that to you, mine have obviously got the best of it.
Speaker 5: And what I also didn't like, and I try to
Speaker 5: separate noise from signal, but I saw in an instance
Speaker 5: that I didn't like the lack of confidence. I know
Speaker 5: we're hearing the right things from from Strickland, but I
Speaker 5: saw this one, and I try to avoid that stuff, John,
Speaker 5: But I saw this one second where Ilia Tupuria was
Speaker 5: what Aiden Ross and Aiden say he's gonna bet fifty
Speaker 5: dimes on Strickland and they called Strickland and Strickland's response was,
Speaker 5: you're rich. It don't matter, Bro, that's the wrong answer.
Speaker 5: John Anne calls me and says, hey, Dana heard your
Speaker 5: advanced blackjack player. He's gonna put up fifty dimes. He
Speaker 5: wants you to come play blackjack. Dude, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 5: bring the camera because I'm about to spice them up.
Speaker 5: You're about to watch the man chop up the blackjack
Speaker 5: table like never before.
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that. If I lose his fifty dimes,
Speaker 5: he's not good kick Again. I try to separate the
Speaker 5: noise from the signal, But to me, that was signal.
Speaker 5: And I like Jamiah. I like Jamiah big here. The
Speaker 5: only problem is is gonna get down to that minus
Speaker 5: four four fifty range that I need to bet him?
Speaker 5: I don't think so. So I'm gonna have to get
Speaker 5: creative and I'm gonna have to find a way to
Speaker 5: bet him. John haven't gotten there. Yet. But here's what
Speaker 5: I'll share. Both main event Cohen events are three and
Speaker 5: a half. That's the total. Here's the problem I have
Speaker 5: if you've done nothing else as a better if you've
Speaker 5: only woke up on Saturday and you looked at them
Speaker 5: at the totals and you sold three and a half
Speaker 5: or four and a half, If you've blindly gone over
Speaker 5: every three and a half and every four and a half,
Speaker 5: Availa to you, you will have made a double digit
Speaker 5: return on investment betting the UFC. And it makes sense
Speaker 5: because the markets bias towards unders. It's bias towards finishes,
Speaker 5: just like we knew for a long time in the
Speaker 5: NFL the bias was towards over in totals, so they
Speaker 5: were jacked up a little higher. There's still that bias
Speaker 5: in the MMA where we want to see finishes. So
Speaker 5: those three and a halfs, those four and a half,
Speaker 5: I like to bet those overs. But again in these
Speaker 5: matchups it just doesn't set up well. But me, it's
Speaker 5: Chimaya or pass and I just hope the price drops
Speaker 5: so I could get a bet on them. But again
Speaker 5: I don't want to go along take time. But I'll
Speaker 5: share this if you're ever giving out picks. You want
Speaker 5: to give the dog like you're not going to get
Speaker 5: any right return on your money saying bet Chimaya. But
Speaker 5: you go out there and you say Stricklands a lot
Speaker 5: and a plus four hundred wins. You know you look great,
Speaker 5: so there's no lass in saying the Stricklands side. But no, no,
Speaker 5: no no, we keep it on your show. Brother, I
Speaker 5: like Youamaya four to fifty or better. That's the side
Speaker 5: plus ev all day.
Speaker 4: You're the man. And it's interesting when you think about
Speaker 4: some of those over three and a half numbers because
Speaker 4: as a commentator for fifteen years, man, it feels like
Speaker 4: a lot of these championship main events go at the
Speaker 4: distance for whatever.
Speaker 3: That is worth.
Speaker 4: All right, time to place your bets. You each get
Speaker 4: three thousand dollars for UFC three twenty eight chimayab versus Strickland.
Speaker 4: Last time Yanni the Greek was with us, he returned
Speaker 4: you about eight hundred dollars to the positive a UFC
Speaker 4: three twenty seven. Last week for Ken Flow, he put
Speaker 4: his entire one thousand dollars on Carlos protests, so he
Speaker 4: is feeling pretty good as well. Yanni the Greek three
Speaker 4: bands with which to play for UFC three twenty eight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's so important to me to be profitable
Speaker 5: that I have to do this professionally like it was
Speaker 5: for the first season or two on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I didn't parlay. I did it like a pro because
Speaker 5: I had to prove I could be profitable. So still
Speaker 5: have to do that here on the album Florian Show.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna be Robot. Gonna start off with my
Speaker 5: first bet and that's to Soro Taira minus one sixty six.
Speaker 5: Gonna put eight thirty to win five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: I know it's a lot to fade the champ, especially
Speaker 5: at plus money. I know why it's attractive to Kenny,
Speaker 5: but I gotta go with Tierra, Like I made my
Speaker 5: true line closer to two hundred, so I got it
Speaker 5: back that with my cash.
Speaker 3: All right, Next up thirty yep, go ahead, yep.
Speaker 5: Eight thirty. Rate them all off at once, Johnny, Yeah,
Speaker 5: go ahead, my man. All right, I'll make the big
Speaker 5: ones first eight thirty to win five hundred on Taira.
Speaker 5: Then euroslav Amasov at minus one seventy once again, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna put eight fifty to win five hundred. I love
Speaker 5: the guy. I think the best prospect to come out
Speaker 5: of Bellator that doesn't get the hype. He deserves only
Speaker 5: one pro loss. You know what you're getting from the
Speaker 5: Ukrainian World, Sambo Champ. I think he gets the job done.
Speaker 5: Alvarez coming in on that hot streak and being the
Speaker 5: killer is why we don't have to pay minus three
Speaker 5: hundred on this. This should be minus three hundred. He
Speaker 5: wins this fight three out of four times, I'll bet
Speaker 5: a fifty to win five hundred. And then Grant Dawson
Speaker 5: coming off a knockout loss like that a little dangerous,
Speaker 5: but that's why we're getting him discounted here against Rebeccy.
Speaker 5: When I zoom out, I see nothing but w's for
Speaker 5: the Dawson side three and one is last for eleven
Speaker 5: two and one in the UFC. I'm gonna lay that
Speaker 5: one sixty lane eight hundred to win five hundred. So
Speaker 5: that's three favorites and I got two small dogs for you.
Speaker 5: Cost Cortes a costat plus one forty two. I explained
Speaker 5: the reasons why there. I think he's live. I love
Speaker 5: that Kenny agrees too. If I knew before the show.
Speaker 5: I'd have been had a bigger bet on him. That's
Speaker 5: two sixty three sixty nine. And now that I know
Speaker 5: Kenny also likes the Buckley side, this would have been
Speaker 5: a bigger bet also, But I thought it's closer to
Speaker 5: a coin flip. So at plus one fifty four, I'll
Speaker 5: put two sixty to win four hundred there. So Acosta,
Speaker 5: Cortes and Cortes a Costa forgive me and Joaquin Buckley
Speaker 5: are the two dogs each for two sixty, and that
Speaker 5: eats up my whole three dimes. John, not even a parlay,
Speaker 5: not even gonna waste it on parlane this week.
Speaker 3: I love listening to you.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited that you're gonna be doing a live
Speaker 4: remote for UFC three twenty eight, because I know some
Speaker 4: of those opportunities have been few and far between. Ken
Speaker 4: Flow three thousand dollars suspended, UFC three twenty eight, where.
Speaker 3: We go, Yeah, so we're gonna sprinkle just a lit
Speaker 3: a bit of money, just one hundred bucks on Jeremy
Speaker 3: Stevens hundred bucks just to win a little little and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna put, uh what I have, fourteen one hundred,
Speaker 3: is that right? Fourteen hundred. We're gonna put on Yaroslav Amasoff.
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be different, but Yanni. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm onto it as well, Buddy, I think that, and
Speaker 3: I like you all. Alvarez, I think he's a fantastic fighter,
Speaker 3: but Amasoff, I think is a fantastic fighter with a
Speaker 3: ton of experience. And people aren't onto him yet, but
Speaker 3: I think they will after Saturday and then so that
Speaker 3: that's fifteen hundred, and then the rest is gonna go on.
Speaker 3: My guy Van Joshua Van, Wow, No, thanks, gonna get juicy.
Speaker 3: We're gonna put the rest of the one thousand.
Speaker 4: Is that no, fifteen hundred dollars wall upon event?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go, yeah, fifteen So uh yeah,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you guys now that when I'm
Speaker 4: calling the Comaine event this weekend, I'm gonna be thinking
Speaker 4: of Yanni the gree Krelis, and I'm gonna be thinking
Speaker 4: about Kenny Floran because you guys are on different sides.
Speaker 5: Yes, if you look at your screen as we speak
Speaker 5: right now, it's exactly ten thirty five am Pacific time,
Speaker 5: with Kenny confirming to me the Amassol side, that screen
Speaker 5: probably just lit up. I just amassolved right now. And
Speaker 5: if you're looking at your live on screen right now
Speaker 5: at ten thirty five am Pacific, I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 5: I just lit that screen off. That sharp account. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just moved.
Speaker 4: Sharp as attack as always, Yanni the Greek, be sure
Speaker 4: to follow this man on Instagram. We look forward to
Speaker 4: seeing you in Newark, New Jersey. My man travels safe.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for the best, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Very best luck to you this weekend. There he is,
Speaker 4: Yanni the Greek corralis with us here on the Anakin
Speaker 4: Florian Podcast. Just fascinating stuff from a gambling perspective for
Speaker 4: UFC three twenty eight and yeah, Van and tyre Man
Speaker 4: just is gonna be absolutely fascinating. All right, Our final
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Speaker 3: Let's go.
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Speaker 3: Far What do we got?
Speaker 2: What do we got?
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Speaker 3: Right, what are you gonna do? Well, dude's a legend.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So ken Flow is gonna hold on
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Speaker 4: I was gonna go at you if you sold that
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: is his XPR balance so high? I mean, this is insane, mine,
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Speaker 3: My goodness. All right, what do we got here? Daniels
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Speaker 3: Fight, Danny, Danny boy, you know you disappointed me a
Speaker 3: couple of times I picked you. You didn't come through.
Speaker 3: I'm bitter about it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be upfront about I'm selling you. Sell Oh,
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Speaker 3: All right, here we go.
Speaker 4: I am not looking for a Dan Murgleatta card today,
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Speaker 3: Fourth all right, Brady.
Speaker 4: A prism oh, okay, sh prism PSA ten Oh, it's
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Speaker 3: This is a big hit.
Speaker 4: By back of about one hundred and sixty seven dollars.
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Speaker 3: All right, And now.
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Speaker 4: Plus as it were for UFC three twenty eight this weekend.
Speaker 4: Thanks to Jason Anik Ray Long Goo Yannie the Greek R.
Speaker 4: J Clifford is back next week and we'll be back
Speaker 4: with you next Monday to recap the piss out of
Speaker 4: UFC three twenty eight. We will see if han zacchim
Speaker 4: I have can add to his legacy or will Sean
Speaker 4: Strickland become a two time UFC middleweight champion. Thanks to
Speaker 4: our entire team at All the Smoke Fight, Nathan Bronson
Speaker 4: and everybody on down our live producer Cody Marrow, best
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