Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 1: I'm Nila, and it's Wednesday. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2: It really is a beautiful day. I was outside, like, wow,
Speaker 2: it's the perfect weather. It's the perfect about of sunshine. Anyway,
Speaker 2: today I've pulled a card.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you did look at you? Yes, congratulations. Well
Speaker 1: on the tarot coin of this of the show. You
Speaker 1: are sex of the show, the tarror of the show. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know where I fit in.
Speaker 1: I'm just here.
Speaker 3: Well, you're not going.
Speaker 1: To figure it out. You're the expert. You're the expert
Speaker 1: of many things.
Speaker 2: Okay, today I pulled the Night of Pinnacles, and it
Speaker 2: signifies hard work, productivity, routine, and conservatism.
Speaker 1: Because we're so con conservative. I think maybe like financially
Speaker 1: maybe like hold, I don't know, read it for me,
Speaker 1: tarot queen.
Speaker 3: Okay, well it is financed.
Speaker 2: A lot of the pentacles are money related, got it?
Speaker 1: Or material related.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm saying this right because someone's going to
Speaker 2: come for me, fucking bitch telling why. Okay, the Night
Speaker 2: of Pinnacles, like the Knights of Other Suits, represents work effort,
Speaker 2: and responsibility that follows upon the dreams and ideals of
Speaker 2: the page.
Speaker 3: This night is the.
Speaker 2: Most hardworking, methodical, and detailed oriented character of the Tarot deck.
Speaker 2: He may not be the most inspiring or creative night,
Speaker 2: but he'll do the work to get the results he seeks,
Speaker 2: even if that work is highly repetitive and routine. When
Speaker 2: this card appears in a tariro reading, you are working
Speaker 2: methodically towards your goals. You have a plan in place
Speaker 2: and are striking in your schedule to get the job done.
Speaker 2: You may not work particularly quickly, but you are consistent, dedicated,
Speaker 2: and committed to your goal. But one foot in front
Speaker 2: of the other and finish the.
Speaker 3: Job right, baby.
Speaker 2: This card also asks if you continue doing what you
Speaker 2: were doing, plotting along and making gradual progress, no need
Speaker 2: to change your approach, go with the flow, stick to
Speaker 2: your usual routines, and over time you will reach your goals.
Speaker 2: I agree this sounds like us, baby, It does, girl,
Speaker 2: because we move in slow, but we be moving.
Speaker 1: We be's doing it. You know what, we don't really
Speaker 1: move slow. We just got too much shit. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. There's just a lot of shit to be done.
Speaker 2: But wow, you envision your goal, to determine the best
Speaker 2: course of action, and then stick to your path with
Speaker 2: a methodical and relentless focus.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that speaks to us.
Speaker 2: I feel like it kind of may speak to our
Speaker 2: guests today too, because maybe we'll have some insight about
Speaker 2: why the fuck We have a lot of ideas and
Speaker 2: a lot of meetings and a lot of little notebooks
Speaker 2: and papers everywhere, but it takes a really long time
Speaker 2: sometimes to send three emails.
Speaker 1: So without further ado, we love to introduce our guest,
Speaker 1: Aaron Claire Jones. She is a huge design expert. So
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Erin thank you so much, I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Aaron, tell us why we can't get shit done? We
Speaker 1: have so many ideas.
Speaker 2: Wait before you tell her, I want to say that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're some astrology tearo magical research and ass bitches,
Speaker 2: and right before we just like the universe always does.
Speaker 2: Like Erica had just come to me recently and was like,
Speaker 2: have you heard of human design? And I was like no,
Speaker 2: And then magically I've been someone else say it to
Speaker 2: you too, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my friend a Nishka was like, oh, human design
Speaker 1: like change my business, Like I got my human design
Speaker 1: reading and it literally changed the way that I navigate
Speaker 1: with my staff and just my choices, and it makes
Speaker 1: so much more sense in how I hire people. So
Speaker 1: then Aaron reached out and I was like, look at this,
Speaker 1: Look at God, God just met, look at us, just
Speaker 1: manifesting guests right and left. A few months ago, we
Speaker 1: couldn't find any guests this month, boom.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I just like to.
Speaker 2: Say that we are mediums for the messages that you
Speaker 2: need to hear. A lot of our guests are come
Speaker 2: at the perfect time, right in our hands, right in
Speaker 2: the DMS, right when three other people have mentioned it,
Speaker 2: and then we can just spread the word and learn together.
Speaker 1: So we're podcast mediums. Okay, well that's our introduction with Aaron.
Speaker 4: Oh good, I'm so happy to chat with you guys.
Speaker 4: It feels like the perfect time.
Speaker 1: So well, can you tell our listeners what human design is?
Speaker 1: What is this, where is it derived from? And how
Speaker 1: do you use it in your life?
Speaker 4: Of course? So human design is a system based on
Speaker 4: your time, date and place of birth that gives you
Speaker 4: your energetic blueprint. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 4: how we're each wire to make decisions, work within teams, collaborate,
Speaker 4: parent partner, all the things. It really just gives us
Speaker 4: each our kind of own roadmap. And the idea is
Speaker 4: that human design pulls from lots of different systems astrology
Speaker 4: included also the kabala, the eaching chakra system, quantum physics, genetics, biochemistry,
Speaker 4: all that kind of give us a blueprint to how
Speaker 4: we operate at our best and I think to how
Speaker 4: we're designed to best use it is that, I think,
Speaker 4: more than anything, human design gives us permission to be
Speaker 4: who we are. I think we often have spent a
Speaker 4: lot of our lives trying to build businesses and show
Speaker 4: up in a way that doesn't really work for us,
Speaker 4: but it's what we think we should do, and human
Speaker 4: design kind of reveals this is how you're wired to
Speaker 4: do it. And I think often when I'm sitting with people,
Speaker 4: I'm not telling them anything new. I'm just giving them
Speaker 4: like a language and a framework for things they have
Speaker 4: always felt but haven't really allowed themselves to step into.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Like the time and date of birth that is so
Speaker 2: close to like your natal chart, your natal reading. I
Speaker 2: never thought about like how many ways that can translate totally. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where does this come from? Who came up with this
Speaker 2: method of reading the stars?
Speaker 4: It's a very mystical origin story. It's been around since
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty seven. The founder is a man named ra
Speaker 4: Uhuru who he's actually no longer alive, but he basically
Speaker 4: had a very mystical experience where he was walking home
Speaker 4: one night and heard a voice and the voice said
Speaker 4: it's time to work. And so for basically eight days
Speaker 4: and eight nights he kind of received all this information
Speaker 4: and then he spent the next twenty years building it out.
Speaker 4: So it's a channel system, meaning it's just like it
Speaker 4: didn't come from him analyzing people. It was very much received.
Speaker 4: And I think I work with a lot of skeptics,
Speaker 4: so I just want to kind of preface this by saying, like,
Speaker 4: take what feels useful, supportive resident like throw the rest away.
Speaker 4: And I think the more important question to ask yourself
Speaker 4: is not like is this true, but is it useful?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: You work with a lot of skeptics.
Speaker 2: A lot of your clients comes skeptical, like, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't believe it.
Speaker 4: Tell me about it, right that a lot of my
Speaker 4: individual clients are definitely not skeptical. I also work with
Speaker 4: a lot of teams, so I think like one kind
Speaker 4: of like big ambassador will bring me in, But a
Speaker 4: lot of them are very new to it, you know.
Speaker 4: And so you're right that it's not the skeptics that
Speaker 4: are the ones that are coming, but they're often roped in,
Speaker 4: and so it's important to kind of know how to
Speaker 4: language it to them as well, because I think the
Speaker 4: magic of human design is that even though it feels
Speaker 4: so cosmic and even though it comes from the stars,
Speaker 4: the information it offers us is so grounded, so practical,
Speaker 4: and like just so accessible. So I think that it
Speaker 4: tends to be accessible even to the most skeptical people.
Speaker 1: Got it, Got it?
Speaker 3: That's so interesting. How did you come into this?
Speaker 2: Like have you always come from a like mystical family
Speaker 2: and this was just your calling? Or like did you
Speaker 2: have a strong affinity with astrology?
Speaker 4: No? And no not. You know, I love astrology, but
Speaker 4: like by no means an expert, you know, And it's
Speaker 4: not like I've really studied it much at all. And
Speaker 4: my family was not really mystical at all. I think
Speaker 4: I was always into like different personal development things, even
Speaker 4: in high school. But I discovered human design, so taranctipitously.
Speaker 4: I had been working for a bunch of different startups
Speaker 4: and kind of a more corporate setting in New York,
Speaker 4: and I went to a friend's house in twenty fifteen
Speaker 4: and was in her backyard and sat next to a stranger,
Speaker 4: and the stranger was like, I would love to share
Speaker 4: your human design with you. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know what human design is, but like, tell me everything.
Speaker 4: And he gave me a little mini reading on the spot,
Speaker 4: and it was just like the most resonant thing I
Speaker 4: had ever heard. And he ended that conversation by saying,
Speaker 4: I think that you're meant to do this, and I
Speaker 4: think that we should build a business together. It was
Speaker 4: just like such a direct and intense invitation, and I
Speaker 4: didn't say yes immediately, but he started to kind of
Speaker 4: reveal to me how we could use human design not
Speaker 4: only individually, but how to kind of help teams work
Speaker 4: better together, how you can use it in parenting and partnership.
Speaker 4: And I had just like, never seen a system as
Speaker 4: detailed and as practical as this one, and so I
Speaker 4: went all in. And it's been a real journey. It
Speaker 4: hasn't been smooth sailing for sure. I think like early
Speaker 4: on in twenty fifteen, human design was so weird and
Speaker 4: out there for most people, and so it's really only
Speaker 4: kind of become more in the mainstream in the past
Speaker 4: I would say, three years. But it was such a serendipitous,
Speaker 4: like cosmic introduction to it, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so amazing someone that just comes in next
Speaker 1: to you and be like, let's start a business.
Speaker 2: What were you doing before? Let me teach you everything about?
Speaker 2: What kind of business were you before?
Speaker 3: Like very weird?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were you doing before human design?
Speaker 4: I was working for a bunch of different startups in
Speaker 4: New York, kind of in the financial space, but also
Speaker 4: in the wellness space and in kind of more community
Speaker 4: and business development roles. But I think on this side
Speaker 4: of that work, I was always like I had my
Speaker 4: Taro Dex with me everywhere I did all kinds of training,
Speaker 4: so I was like always on this path, but like
Speaker 4: I never really envisioned doing it for work, And I
Speaker 4: think human design for me kind of bridge the two
Speaker 4: where it like satisfied all my desires so like understand
Speaker 4: ourselves on the deepest level, but also allowed me to
Speaker 4: come of work not only with people that love the
Speaker 4: mystical in the way that I do, but also people
Speaker 4: that were very skeptical, but it could be really supportive
Speaker 4: to them as well, because.
Speaker 1: I feel like human design feels like, like you said,
Speaker 1: like it's a ligne for like the person that's kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit more I don't want to say
Speaker 1: a realist, because that kind of like makes everything else
Speaker 1: feel not real, but like someone who is more like
Speaker 1: needs the facts, like needs to understand like the facts
Speaker 1: and not just like leave it to the stars, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and also want to do something with it.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's so many amazing systems out there
Speaker 4: that give us like juicy information and then we have
Speaker 4: no idea what to do.
Speaker 1: Ye're like, okay, well great with scorpios and rising now
Speaker 1: what ah exactly?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so fun. Like I still love that, but
Speaker 4: I think human design is so cool well that it
Speaker 4: gives us all the self knowledge, but it also gives
Speaker 4: us these tools that we can use in our day
Speaker 4: to day like starting the next day.
Speaker 1: So you know, we gave you our do we need
Speaker 1: to give you our birth dates? Again? No? No, no, I
Speaker 1: have our birth information and you have run run the test.
Speaker 3: Run the system.
Speaker 2: You've input us in the systems of the stars and
Speaker 2: you've gotten some information back data the data systems.
Speaker 4: Are you ready to hear?
Speaker 1: Ready, let's do it?
Speaker 4: Okay, who wants to start Mela?
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have volunteer, right, okay?
Speaker 4: Perfect. So, and just for context for people, there are
Speaker 4: basically five different types than human design, and then underneath
Speaker 4: the type they are like a bajillion other configuration. So
Speaker 4: we'll kind of start with the type that start to
Speaker 4: explore some of the different pieces. And you can look
Speaker 4: up your design at Aaronclaire Jones dot com slash look up.
Speaker 4: So MELA is a manifestor and manifestors are about eight
Speaker 4: to nine percent of the population. So it's like a
Speaker 4: more rare type.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe rare rarity.
Speaker 5: So a lot of you always are fine ashtag, We're fine, sorry.
Speaker 4: Aron, No, no, perfect okay. So manifestors they're here to
Speaker 4: be the initiators. They're really here to kind of get
Speaker 4: things started and get the ball rolling, not always here
Speaker 4: to do all the doing themselves. You know, they often
Speaker 4: bring so much powerful energy at the beginning. And so,
Speaker 4: like I would say, an ideal thing for MILA and
Speaker 4: this is maybe not. The way that you've operated is
Speaker 4: like bringing in a new idea to life and then
Speaker 4: kind of like handing it off and delegating and like
Speaker 4: creating space for the next inspiration to come. You know,
Speaker 4: I would guess that you really thrive when you feel
Speaker 4: really free and in control, like you're somebody who's not
Speaker 4: really here to be told what to do or controlled
Speaker 4: in any way, like here to do things on your
Speaker 4: own terms and in your own way. And so both
Speaker 4: personally and in work, it's so important to be surrounded
Speaker 4: by people that just like really give you freedom and
Speaker 4: like don't mess with your flow and kind of remind
Speaker 4: you how powerful you are. A lot of manifestors I've
Speaker 4: worked with haven't really felt permission to be as powerful
Speaker 4: as they are. They've been kind of sitting back and
Speaker 4: ask me for permission. And so you know, your job
Speaker 4: is to like step up, initiate, like trust the urges
Speaker 4: that come within you and kind of know that you're
Speaker 4: like not for everyone, because no one is, you know,
Speaker 4: And the more kind of bold and courageous you are
Speaker 4: and how you express, the more you kind of empower
Speaker 4: others to be equally bold. I think in terms of
Speaker 4: how you structure your day to day. You're somebody who
Speaker 4: really is meant to work in ebbs and flows, so
Speaker 4: you likely won't try when you're just like I'm going
Speaker 4: to be a consistent doer all day long. It's more
Speaker 4: like I'm going to have a creative burst where I
Speaker 4: can make a lot happen, whether it's over the course
Speaker 4: of a couple hours or a couple of days, and
Speaker 4: then I need to kind of pull back and arrest
Speaker 4: and take space and then kind of wait for the
Speaker 4: next burst to arrive. And there's a lot more to share,
Speaker 4: but I want to hear your thoughts on this. I
Speaker 4: think the last piece that I share in this section
Speaker 4: is just that like you're here to initiate when you
Speaker 4: feel an urge to make something happen, like your job
Speaker 4: is to trust it and not look for like confirmation
Speaker 4: or approval from anyone around you. So how does that
Speaker 4: all feel to you?
Speaker 1: It feels very accurate.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I do have a lot of energy in the beginning,
Speaker 2: and then I can like must rest, and I think
Speaker 2: I have asked permission to like take up space, and
Speaker 2: I do, and I do flow best and freedom and
Speaker 2: not being told what to do and even when I'm
Speaker 2: told rules, I'm like, am I just like not willing
Speaker 2: to compromise, or I just I don't want to listen.
Speaker 2: I don't want to listen. I don't like I just
Speaker 2: want to do things at my own pace. And I
Speaker 2: used to I used to date someone I still live
Speaker 2: with my baby daddy, and he would like have this
Speaker 2: thing in the morning.
Speaker 1: He would rush me. He was like, let's go let's
Speaker 1: do this, let's go that, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to lean up.
Speaker 2: I wanted to, Like it would irritate the fuck out
Speaker 2: of me that he was moving so fast and then
Speaker 2: would get mad, and I was just like, this is
Speaker 2: really interrupting how I feel the flow the flow, and
Speaker 2: it just like really irritated me. I thought something was
Speaker 2: wrong with me, but of course it really resonates with me.
Speaker 2: And even especially like having energy to start things up.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like get so frustrated with myself because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I created this deck and I'm ninety nine percent done.
Speaker 1: Why can and I get the one percent done? Why
Speaker 1: can't I just finish the fucking shit? Why can't I
Speaker 1: just push some.
Speaker 3: On the email? What the fuck is wrong with me?
Speaker 1: The other day you were like, I'm so annoyed, Like
Speaker 1: I cleaned my whole house, I sweeped, and I put
Speaker 1: all these little piles of dirt in corners and I
Speaker 1: didn't pick it up, Like why I did everything except
Speaker 1: complete the fucking task. And she was like, I'm so
Speaker 1: mad at myself. Why can't I just finish shit.
Speaker 2: I am currently in therapy because I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is wrong? I like, what is in my childhood
Speaker 2: that I cannot complete the task?
Speaker 1: Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It is. I mean, that's amazing to hear. And I
Speaker 4: think again, like it's a balance. But I would just say,
Speaker 4: like workwise, in life, it's really good to have people
Speaker 4: around you that can like help you finish because again,
Speaker 4: so much of your energies at the beginning, and so
Speaker 4: instead of making yourself wrong for that, it's like I
Speaker 4: can get this thing off the ground, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: need you to help me like move it across the
Speaker 4: finish line.
Speaker 1: You know, land it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it is just and again, human design really
Speaker 4: helps us know kind of what support we need around us.
Speaker 4: And it is interesting hearing you talk about kind of
Speaker 4: like being rushed in the morning, because whenever I'm talking
Speaker 4: to like somebody who's partnered with a manifestor I always
Speaker 4: kind of remind them like just like don't get in
Speaker 4: their way, like let them be in their own flow
Speaker 4: and do their own thing, and like they'll let you
Speaker 4: know when they want to kind of be in the
Speaker 4: flow with you. But I think in a case like that,
Speaker 4: I feel like your flow is disrupted from like the
Speaker 4: first minute you woke up. Like I can imagine it'd
Speaker 4: be a bit frustrating. Yeah, makes sense, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure, I'm happy that human design is giving me
Speaker 2: permission to like be as wild and large and have
Speaker 2: outrageous out of the ordinary ideas and I should sit
Speaker 2: in that and not really listen to anyone else's say so.
Speaker 1: And I feel bad about the completion part. You know,
Speaker 1: just put people in place.
Speaker 3: That can complete it, complete it right right. That does help.
Speaker 4: It's also going to give you so much more energy
Speaker 4: for like the beginnings, because I imagine, like you have
Speaker 4: a lot of energy getting things off the ground, but
Speaker 4: it takes so much more to actually finish, and so
Speaker 4: like if somebody else can support you in that, it's
Speaker 4: going to free up so much energy for like the
Speaker 4: next thing to come. In terms of kind of knowing
Speaker 4: which opportunities to pursue. And this is a piece underneath
Speaker 4: the manifest or this is how you make decisions. You're
Speaker 4: not really meant to be super spontaneous and like for
Speaker 4: the small decisions. Of course be spontaneous, but you're somebody
Speaker 4: who's like deeply emotional, and so if you make a
Speaker 4: decision on like an emotional high, you might kind of
Speaker 4: wake up the next day and be like, I don't
Speaker 4: actually want to do that thing, you know, And so
Speaker 4: I would just say giving yourself like a day or
Speaker 4: two before you say yes can also help you like
Speaker 4: sustain your energy a little bit more so, some people
Speaker 4: are meant to be spontaneous, I would say for you,
Speaker 4: even like romantic relationships like courtship, taking your time to
Speaker 4: feel into things like clarity really comes with time for you.
Speaker 1: You hear that, girl, You hear that, my instant girlfriend.
Speaker 1: We're in love. She's boyfriend. She woke up, she woke up,
Speaker 1: met him last night, woke up with a boyfriend. Were love.
Speaker 3: It was just meant to be. It was are the
Speaker 3: Stars six months later?
Speaker 1: Fuck, it wasn't in the fucking stars. It's at the
Speaker 1: bars where it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do probably need to take that into more consideration.
Speaker 2: I am spontaneous, but sometimes I do spread myself thin
Speaker 2: and say yes too often, and then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: why did I do that? Why do I want to
Speaker 2: say no, I'm such a bitch? Why do I care
Speaker 2: if anyone thinks I'm a bitch or you are bitch?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I like Erica, be like, be more like Erica? Care less,
Speaker 2: I know, not doing it. I changed my mind then.
Speaker 3: I like, harp on it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be more like you. You're trying to
Speaker 1: be more like me?
Speaker 3: Can I change my mind?
Speaker 2: Like five minutes before, Like sorry, I should have told
Speaker 2: you two days ago, and I knew I didn't want
Speaker 2: to do it, but now I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lie so I can get onto it.
Speaker 4: It's not easy to honor because it can be annoying
Speaker 4: to wait, you know what I mean, especially when you
Speaker 4: have like this powerful energy to make things happen. And
Speaker 4: I have the same thing in my design, so I
Speaker 4: know it well. But I think the lesson for me
Speaker 4: has been like it's almost always worth it because like,
Speaker 4: even though it's annoying, it's just like then I commit
Speaker 4: to things from like such a more wholehearted place where
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I'm in I can do this, Whereas
Speaker 4: like if it's spontaneous, I'm like yes and then no,
Speaker 4: and then it's just like there's an uncertainty that kind
Speaker 4: of persists.
Speaker 1: So when I think about it, I think about it forever.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm getting anxiety over this ship for three days, like, bitch,
Speaker 2: just say no.
Speaker 1: I feel like a manifestor probably has to work really
Speaker 1: hard to not be spontaneous because they get that like
Speaker 1: surge of energy, surge of idea, surge of inspiration that
Speaker 1: like the spontaneity feels like part of it and really
Speaker 1: natural to you when you have to really like take
Speaker 1: a step back and be like Oda.
Speaker 2: You know how many best friends I've met at a
Speaker 2: bathroom party?
Speaker 3: Hundred.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, we're gonna talk about this. No, tomorrow, we're gonna
Speaker 3: go out to eat. We're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: So many, so many random pictures in my phone. Who
Speaker 2: the fuck is this? It's your best friend time.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. And the thing is one thing is
Speaker 4: not all manifestors have to wait. Some can actually be spontaneous.
Speaker 4: Let's just got a piece of me Let's design where
Speaker 4: actually you have to wait. And again, you can do
Speaker 4: whatever you want, but you just might be a bit
Speaker 4: more regretful if you don't.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to take that advice I should
Speaker 2: wait because then I want to be doing that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to share two more pieces and then
Speaker 4: go over to Erica. And again, there's so much more,
Speaker 4: but just to give you guys a little bit of
Speaker 4: a taste to start. So another piece for you, and
Speaker 4: I love this just because of your relationship, is that,
Speaker 4: like so many of your opportunities are meant to come
Speaker 4: from like your friends and your community and the people
Speaker 4: that you know, and so it's so much more natural
Speaker 4: for you to work with your friends than it is
Speaker 4: to work with strangers, you know. And also when it
Speaker 4: comes to dating, it's really important like a foundation of
Speaker 4: friendship with the people that you date, and it's probably
Speaker 4: more natural for you to like date somebody that was
Speaker 4: like introduced you through a friend, was a friend first,
Speaker 4: you know. So it just like your community is such
Speaker 4: a well of opportunity for you. So I would just
Speaker 4: say in general, like really investing in your relationships is key,
Speaker 4: and working with those that you really desire to be
Speaker 4: friends with I do that anyway.
Speaker 2: I am like a friend lover. I will work on
Speaker 2: my friendships with my friend all the time. I receive
Speaker 2: that I and even us in our business everything is
Speaker 2: we find that business works best in our community, in
Speaker 2: our tribe with our friends, Like how do we keep
Speaker 2: it and flow together without stuffing outside?
Speaker 3: We don't know those people.
Speaker 4: Totally. And then one other big piece for you and
Speaker 4: your design is that we all have areas that we're
Speaker 4: kind of meant to work on. And these are areas
Speaker 4: that can be both challenging but also like really amazing
Speaker 4: places where we can be wise and teach other people.
Speaker 4: But one of the big lessons for you is run
Speaker 4: your identity. You or somebody who has a very fluid
Speaker 4: sense of identity, which means like how you want to
Speaker 4: express now might be different than how you wanted to
Speaker 4: express six months ago or a year or ten years ago.
Speaker 4: Like you're kind of meant to wear many different hats
Speaker 4: over the course of your life, and you're not really
Speaker 4: here to like figure out your one purpose and stick
Speaker 4: with it, but rather we're kind of like honoring whatever
Speaker 4: feels authentic to you and kind of giving yourself permission
Speaker 4: to like shift and evolve and reinvent yourself when it's time.
Speaker 4: And so I would say the biggest question to ask
Speaker 4: yourself is never like who am I and what am
Speaker 4: I here to do with my life? But rather like
Speaker 4: what feels like the most authentic expression of me right now?
Speaker 4: And how can I lean so fully into that? How
Speaker 4: does that feel? Do you feel that flexibility within yourself?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably have like eight purposes in this lifetime
Speaker 2: that will manifest in different like ways, Like I can
Speaker 2: feel that I like a trade here, a certification there.
Speaker 1: Wait, what was the question that you should ask yourself?
Speaker 4: The question is not about like who am I and
Speaker 4: what am I here to do with my life? But
Speaker 4: rather like what feels like the most me right now?
Speaker 1: What feels like the most to you right now?
Speaker 2: What feels like the most me right now is just
Speaker 2: really tapping into just my natural god given talents, which
Speaker 2: are like connecting people, creating community, making people feel like
Speaker 2: powerful and warm and fuzzy inside. I've noticed like that's
Speaker 2: what I'm good at, That's what makes.
Speaker 1: Me feel good.
Speaker 2: Actually, Like sometimes I notice I'm challenging people and I'm like,
Speaker 2: why the fuck am I just doing that, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: because I feel like they're right there and they need
Speaker 2: to be like cracked open a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: I have the ability to do that. Or sometimes people
Speaker 2: need to feel I feel I find people and I
Speaker 2: feel like they need love, they really need to feel supported,
Speaker 2: and I feel like good with doing that. I feel
Speaker 2: good with pouring into people, and like sometimes I can
Speaker 2: sense where people need to hear certain shit, like you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I can just do that, and
Speaker 2: that's what I like to do. And I just feel
Speaker 2: like right now on this like wellness journey, I've realized
Speaker 2: that in doing that, I have to actually do that
Speaker 2: for myself and like go to therapy and tend to
Speaker 2: myself and have those those thoughts about you know, and
Speaker 2: so I'm able to pour into other people and like
Speaker 2: even starting doing this retreat just how I can show
Speaker 2: up as my best self so I can give to
Speaker 2: my community and like also not questioning whether you need
Speaker 2: like some kind of like certification and just honoring who
Speaker 2: I am energetically and who I'm innately born to be.
Speaker 2: And like even as we're I'm like discussing going to
Speaker 2: like these tantric certifications because like I've felt that in
Speaker 2: my spirit anyway, and then our astrologists like added to that.
Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking back in my catalog of like
Speaker 2: threesomes and like how I've been and so tentative and
Speaker 2: like emotionally present for people and like guided them and
Speaker 2: not even really necessarily had to participate.
Speaker 1: But like you're little like maybe slow down a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, bit, this is what you're
Speaker 1: born to do.
Speaker 2: You've been doing this, but like just taking away the
Speaker 2: thought that I need all these like he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: schooling to just be in tune with what my natural
Speaker 2: healing powers are to do.
Speaker 3: Does that answer your question?
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 1: Basically you're meant to heal people, bring them together, and
Speaker 1: bust them open. Yeah, I'm a love bomber.
Speaker 4: Which is so funny because like the you know, we
Speaker 4: all have basically like the purpose in your design, one
Speaker 4: of the kind of big purposes is around healing and
Speaker 4: just kind of this like innocence you bring to your
Speaker 4: relationships and this ability to kind of just like shift
Speaker 4: people out of like an old way of doing things
Speaker 4: into like something entirely new and like you do have
Speaker 4: a provocative energy. You're kind of meant to provoke people,
Speaker 4: you know, because it's just like you're meant to like
Speaker 4: provoke them into what's next for them. So I love
Speaker 4: that you're like naturally doing that. And you're also somebody
Speaker 4: who's so deeply sensitive to people, like you just feel
Speaker 4: so much of their stuff, and like it makes you
Speaker 4: such an amazing guide for other people because you can
Speaker 4: like sense where they are and kind of like provoke
Speaker 4: them accordingly. But it also means that you need so
Speaker 4: much space and time alone to be in your own
Speaker 4: space just as a way to kind of like disconnect
Speaker 4: from what's not yours and reset to it and kind
Speaker 4: of reconnect to it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm at right now, just learning to
Speaker 2: reset because sometimes I'm very plugged in and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is wrong with me?
Speaker 3: Sit the fuck down?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some and one of the biggest and then
Speaker 4: women to Erica, one of your biggest shadows is like
Speaker 4: not knowing when to stop and not knowing when enough
Speaker 4: is enough so you can just like keep going and
Speaker 4: going and going. So it's like no draw boundary for
Speaker 4: both of you knowing when to draw a boundary and
Speaker 4: pull back.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, thank God though, thank God,
Speaker 1: thank God.
Speaker 2: But I'm like that, yeah, I mean, I mean, no,
Speaker 2: you're gonna find balance, but like.
Speaker 3: Me over here.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm over here, like pushing your boundaries
Speaker 1: when like they shouldn't be. I'm like, lock, we must
Speaker 1: fit in good. I'm day twenty four hour days.
Speaker 4: Neither of you are meant to do.
Speaker 1: Nails like my flow, and I'm like, I'm flowing too,
Speaker 1: but I'm also working and I can't stop.
Speaker 3: I'm sleep stop texting me like.
Speaker 1: Hey, it's twelve a m. Did you see that email?
Speaker 1: He just fun they're asleep, but who cares? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I need it.
Speaker 4: And the very last piece that I'd share for you,
Speaker 4: Mila for now is that I don't know whether you know,
Speaker 4: take this or leave this, But because you're so sensitive,
Speaker 4: like if you were to live with a partner in
Speaker 4: the future, I don't know if you are right now,
Speaker 4: I would actually recommend having your own sleeping space, you know,
Speaker 4: and like it's just because you're and again, take it
Speaker 4: or leave it. I know some people are like I
Speaker 4: want to sit with my partner, and I'm so supportive
Speaker 4: of people doing what they want. But because you're so sensitive,
Speaker 4: like having your own space, it kind of just like
Speaker 4: reset and recharge could be really restorative for you. And
Speaker 4: there's obviously, like so much stigma around it. But and
Speaker 4: I know it's not always feasible either.
Speaker 3: But if you're on my have my own apartment, I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 1: I was literally who was I talking yesterday? I was
Speaker 1: saying that I feel like, like, when I get my
Speaker 1: next home and I have a partner, like we need
Speaker 1: to have separate rooms, not that we're gonna sleep separately
Speaker 1: all the time, but that we have our own rooms.
Speaker 1: And actually my homegirl did that with her boyfriend she had.
Speaker 1: She was so cute, like she decorated her room the
Speaker 1: way that she wanted to to be decorated. It was
Speaker 1: fucking girly. And then he had his own shit and
Speaker 1: then they would come together when they felt like it.
Speaker 3: I made it.
Speaker 2: I met h married a couple like that once and
Speaker 2: I went to the house and not only that, like
Speaker 2: men weren't allowed to go in the room at all,
Speaker 2: Like you were not allowed to enter the room in
Speaker 2: that room or the bathroom, no men we could enter it.
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is smart and I.
Speaker 2: Think that's another reason that's important to have like multiple properties.
Speaker 2: I know we want to have like multiple houses that
Speaker 2: it's like, Nigga, you need to go.
Speaker 1: To New York.
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out my face.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going over here. I'm going to
Speaker 2: Costa Rica. See you in a month. Let me miss
Speaker 2: you a little bit. Shit, it's so healthy.
Speaker 4: And my husband and I have separate bedrooms and I
Speaker 4: think it's the best thing in the whole world.
Speaker 1: But do you sleep separately every night or something?
Speaker 4: It's probably half and half, but it just like Erica said,
Speaker 4: it's like our default is like on our own when
Speaker 4: we kind of have our own schedules and then we
Speaker 4: just like choose when to sleep together. And we love
Speaker 4: sleeping together. It's just like I think that we know
Speaker 4: the power of being in our own space too. And
Speaker 4: we literally have like the same beds and all the things,
Speaker 4: so it's like both of our bedrooms are equally appealing.
Speaker 4: But I think it's just like it's nice to choose.
Speaker 4: And just like Erica said, we are like decorated very differently.
Speaker 4: We're super different. So just like honors that. So I
Speaker 4: like to bring it up because I think it's so
Speaker 4: healthy for relationships, but I think there's so much taboo
Speaker 4: around it. Okay, Erica, are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm ready tell me.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Erica is a projector, which is about twenty
Speaker 4: percent of the population. So you two are like some
Speaker 4: of the more rare.
Speaker 1: Types and we're hashtag where dulo so Erica.
Speaker 4: You are a projector in human design, and it basically
Speaker 4: means that you are also not designed to be like
Speaker 4: a consistent doer and builder and creator. And I know
Speaker 4: it's probably very tempting to try to be that, but
Speaker 4: you are much better suited to be like the leader,
Speaker 4: a guide, a visionairey. You're so good at like asking
Speaker 4: the questions and kind of like guiding people and teams
Speaker 4: and communities and so so much of your work is
Speaker 4: learning how to honor the ebbs and flows of your
Speaker 4: energy and not trying to do do do all day long,
Speaker 4: and also knowing that there's so much value you bring
Speaker 4: to the world that's beyond how much you do. Like
Speaker 4: your perspective and how you see things and how sensitive
Speaker 4: you are to others is so valuable, you know, So
Speaker 4: if there are spaces where you feel like that's really
Speaker 4: recognized and valued. I would definitely invest more energy there.
Speaker 4: Often projectors make very natural coaches, therapists, podcasts, host guides, CEOs,
Speaker 4: managers like roles where they're like asking questions and not
Speaker 4: required to kind of do all the doing themselves. And
Speaker 4: this strategy for projectors, it's the kind of wait to
Speaker 4: be recognized and invited in. It's because you have such
Speaker 4: a kind of powerful perspective and way of seeing things.
Speaker 4: It's really important to both collaborate and kind of be
Speaker 4: intimate with people that like deeply see you, value you,
Speaker 4: and recognize you. So you're like not trying to be
Speaker 4: a doer or something other than what you are. How
Speaker 4: does that all feel to you?
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think I do need to
Speaker 1: be invited in. I think that like when I feel
Speaker 1: like I have to show up or like like push
Speaker 1: my way in, it like triggers like insecurity in me,
Speaker 1: like am I supposed to be here? Like is this okay?
Speaker 1: Like I'd much rather be invited in and my ideas
Speaker 1: be invited in in that way it allows me to
Speaker 1: feel a lot more confident and secure in expressing my
Speaker 1: ideas and like leading. And I definitely I definitely feel
Speaker 1: like especially in this business with Mila, Like I have
Speaker 1: like honed like my leadership skills, there's still more. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm still I'm a very like I'm a
Speaker 1: learning leader, learning how to lead from a positive way,
Speaker 1: in a positive way without feeling overbearing, because I know
Speaker 1: that I can be overbearing because I am like there
Speaker 1: is something in me, like I know, like you said,
Speaker 1: like I'm not meant to like work work work, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it's because of like
Speaker 1: just seeing my That's how my family has always operated.
Speaker 1: That's how all the women in my family have always operated.
Speaker 1: Just it's they're always doing something. My grandmother worked until
Speaker 1: like she they like had to fire her, like they
Speaker 1: had to like they had to like tell her go home,
Speaker 1: Like you are eighty, you can't do interior design anymore.
Speaker 1: Woman like and and my mom too, Like they're just
Speaker 1: workhorses essentially, and like and I'm in that way. I'm
Speaker 1: that way, I think by just default. But I know
Speaker 1: that it's not the healthiest for me. I know that
Speaker 1: it's triggering for me. It causes me anxiety, it causes
Speaker 1: me to break down, like I become kind of useless.
Speaker 1: My ideas become shitty, I become really indecisive and I
Speaker 1: can't make decisions and I'm just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone do it for me.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that does speak to me.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, Oh, do you hear something more to say?
Speaker 4: It says to have power reflection because one, like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the fact that you two are more
Speaker 4: rare types, but like most people are like doers, you know,
Speaker 4: they really have this like creative energy like make things happen,
Speaker 4: and like unless they use up their energy during the day,
Speaker 4: they can like feel really frustrated. And so we're in
Speaker 4: a world of a lot of that, and so where
Speaker 4: all three of us can get tripped up as if
Speaker 4: we try to keep up with that, you know, And
Speaker 4: so Eric, it's so not it's so not abnormal hearing that,
Speaker 4: like your biggest potential shadow, like I said, is not
Speaker 4: knowing what enough is enough, It's not knowing when to stop.
Speaker 4: It's just like I'm gonna just keep going and going
Speaker 4: and push through my tiredness and just get more done.
Speaker 4: But like why your reflection was so potent is that
Speaker 4: like the more you do that, the less available you
Speaker 4: make yourself for your gifts. Like when you actually honor
Speaker 4: the ebbs and flows of your energy and take rest
Speaker 4: when you need it, you are so much more creative,
Speaker 4: so much more insightful, so much more successful. And so
Speaker 4: it is this real lesson that like the more you
Speaker 4: take rest and the more you take care of yourself,
Speaker 4: like the better you'll be. Because like you've got actually
Speaker 4: such powerful ideas and you're really here to like share
Speaker 4: them with the world. But like if you're super over
Speaker 4: zealous and exhausted, you don't have access to them. And
Speaker 4: you also, like you said, don't have access to kind
Speaker 4: of your clear decision making. Because the way that you're
Speaker 4: meant to make decisions and keep a design, and this
Speaker 4: is a layer underneath the projector this isn't true for
Speaker 4: all projectors, is that you're meant to be very spontaneous,
Speaker 4: like actually the opposite of Mila, Like you're meant to
Speaker 4: be super like intuitive and fast and quick. But like
Speaker 4: your intuition is probably very quiet, and so unless you're
Speaker 4: actually like creating a real connection to it and like
Speaker 4: listening to it, it's going to be really hard to
Speaker 4: hear it. And so I think the more you take
Speaker 4: rest and take space for yourself and are alone and
Speaker 4: can connect to it, the kind of faster and more
Speaker 4: effective your decisions will be. H How does that feel?
Speaker 1: It feels accurate because I feel like when I have
Speaker 1: not been spontaneous, I have regretted it. When I've sat
Speaker 1: on something and overthought it and not just done the
Speaker 1: thing and questioned my like gut reaction, that's when I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I knew it, like I knew I should have just
Speaker 1: done that. I knew I should have just said that.
Speaker 1: I knew that person. I knew that person. Mm hm,
Speaker 1: you know, like and you know, letting other people like Erica,
Speaker 1: well maybe or like give it time or that's what
Speaker 1: my mom always spend time time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, Mom, like I feel it.
Speaker 1: I've always I think, and I think especially I think
Speaker 1: this is really interesting as parents too, because parents project
Speaker 1: onto their children what what they think is best or
Speaker 1: what worked for them, and that doesn't always work for
Speaker 1: your kids. And so I think with my mom, I'm
Speaker 1: actually interested to know what kind of is what our
Speaker 1: human design is, because she's always told me that I'm
Speaker 1: too spontaneous that I'm like, I'm do this. I need
Speaker 1: I need to like take more time and do this.
Speaker 1: And I've always felt like want myself wanting to rebel
Speaker 1: against that, but also like, Okay, well maybe she's right,
Speaker 1: Like maybe I should like just wait on it. Maybe
Speaker 1: I should just and any And I don't want to
Speaker 1: say like every time she's been wrong, because my mom
Speaker 1: has been right a lot. She's a super intelligent woman.
Speaker 1: But there's been times where I'm like, no, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I didn't fucking listen to you, Like this is
Speaker 1: exactly what I needed to do. Like I remember, like
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Speaker 1: time and I was her personal assistant and I was
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Speaker 1: results were so much greater. Like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I think we're told that we must plan ahead, and
Speaker 1: that sounds like the right thing to do, but hearing that,
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Speaker 4: Has Yeah, Because also I imagine if you like sleep
Speaker 4: on it, then you start to doubt it, and it's
Speaker 4: just like and then it just becomes the cycle. Like
Speaker 4: for you, clarity comes in the moment and the work
Speaker 4: is to trust it. And it's so powerful what you
Speaker 4: shared about your mom, because like she might be wired
Speaker 4: really differently and so like she might need to take
Speaker 4: her time, or she might need to talk things out,
Speaker 4: and like this is why I'm such an advocate of
Speaker 4: using human design and like parenting and family stuff, because
Speaker 4: like when you are expecting your kids or your team
Speaker 4: or your partner to be like you, it's super disappointing.
Speaker 4: But if you really like honored the fact that they're
Speaker 4: wired really differently, it can be so much more inflow, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: so let me share a few other pieces about you, Erica.
Speaker 4: So one piece, you know, I know that I mentioned
Speaker 4: that you operate in ebbs and flows, but you actually
Speaker 4: got such efficiency in your design, and it basically means
Speaker 4: that you're meant to do more in a couple hours
Speaker 4: than most people can in a whole day, you know.
Speaker 4: And so the more you kind of take rest when
Speaker 4: you need it, the more like efficient and fast you
Speaker 4: can be. And so I would to play with this
Speaker 4: if you feel inspired, like really like taking breaks throughout
Speaker 4: the day and like honoring the ebbs and flows, and
Speaker 4: I have to imagine that you'd actually be so much
Speaker 4: more effective. Have you noticed that efficiency within yourself? Like
Speaker 4: do you think you really tapped into that?
Speaker 1: Yes? And actually yesterday me and Mila are writing a book.
Speaker 1: And so yesterday, you know, I haven't had my kid.
Speaker 1: I haven't had my kid for the past two days.
Speaker 1: I woke up, I wrote a little bit, I went
Speaker 1: and drank, jumped down the trampoline, came back, wrote a lot,
Speaker 1: came back, went and went for a walk, came back,
Speaker 1: wrote a lot. Then my computer crashed, lost all of it.
Speaker 1: That was fine, came back, wrote it again. But I
Speaker 1: noticed that, like taking those breaks were so helpful for me,
Speaker 1: Like whereas typically like I will just go straight through,
Speaker 1: like I will just keep going, going, going, going, I
Speaker 1: feel like I cannot take a break, and I've really
Speaker 1: had to talk. I've done. I've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of like talking out loud to myself because I have
Speaker 1: a lot of negative inner like self talk that I
Speaker 1: do that I didn't even I don't even realize I'm
Speaker 1: doing it because it's just so I'm just programmed to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't even hear it, like unless I
Speaker 1: really stop and listen that I'm literally talking shit all day.
Speaker 1: So I will I'll have to like I'll be like, no,
Speaker 1: stop that, and I'll talk out some talking to myself.
Speaker 1: I'm literally been having so many conversations out loud, bitch
Speaker 1: like talking to myself, responding to myself like it looks
Speaker 1: it looks, it looks crazy, but it's really helpful for me.
Speaker 1: And just like being like girl, you sent like forty
Speaker 1: two emails today, Okay, like why the fuck are you
Speaker 1: beating yourself up? You sent in a design, you wrote
Speaker 1: a chapter, fucking sent out emails, you didn't recorded an episode,
Speaker 1: had a business call. How much more do you think
Speaker 1: that you need to do in order to feel accomplished today? Like,
Speaker 1: I've really had to like have those conversations with myself
Speaker 1: because I I will just keep going, going, going and
Speaker 1: still feel like I didn't get enough done, and I
Speaker 1: have had to like take these breaks. Yesterday was a
Speaker 1: good example of that, and I was like, damn, Like,
Speaker 1: this is how I have to I literally had that
Speaker 1: talk with myself. I was like, this is how you're
Speaker 1: meant to work. You gotta go jump on the trampoline, bitch,
Speaker 1: go get on that trampoline. Why is it out there?
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, you didn't just get that
Speaker 1: for iri. Jump it. So I agree with that, and
Speaker 1: I'm feeling more I'm feeling like I can, like I
Speaker 1: feel more confident in that more recently. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yes, I love that because I think that often
Speaker 4: when we are doing like or just aware of ourselves
Speaker 4: and paying attention, like we tend to like start to
Speaker 4: live our design very naturally, you know, and then human
Speaker 4: design just validates it. But I think that we often
Speaker 4: again we're just trained to be all these things that
Speaker 4: were not and like not to trust our intuition, not
Speaker 4: to honyrebs and flows. Another big one for you, Eric,
Speaker 4: and I'm curious, but it is related to all to
Speaker 4: the negative self talk, is that like you've got this
Speaker 4: like insatiable energy and you're design to just like perfect
Speaker 4: and improve and make things better. It means that you
Speaker 4: can look at anything and know exactly what could be
Speaker 4: fixed or improved, whether that's like your home or someone's
Speaker 4: behavior or podcast episode or whatever, and like, so much
Speaker 4: of your work is to not turn that kind of
Speaker 4: critical energy inwards on yourself and finding fault with yourself
Speaker 4: and those close to you, but rather kind of having
Speaker 4: the right outlets in your life where you can just
Speaker 4: like be improving and correcting and refining things because you're
Speaker 4: so good at it. But it's not really meant to
Speaker 4: be you, to make you wrong, but more to kind
Speaker 4: of be of service to the world. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think I think I have turned that
Speaker 1: into my negative self talk instead of using it in
Speaker 1: a way that's positive. It's more like you didn't fix this,
Speaker 1: you missed that, you didn't do that. So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And I think Mila, one area where you can really
Speaker 4: support Erica and knowing that she's a projector, it's just
Speaker 4: like making her feel really recognized and seen, being like
Speaker 4: I love the way that you saw this. I love
Speaker 4: the way that you did this, like just really kind
Speaker 4: of like words of affirmation when you're inspired, you know,
Speaker 4: I think that that often can fuel us as projectors.
Speaker 4: One area that's really interesting in relationship is that Erica,
Speaker 4: you're like a hyper EmPATH in your design, like so
Speaker 4: sensitive to other people's feelings, Like if somebody's feeling something,
Speaker 4: you might feel it really intensely within yourself. I don't
Speaker 4: know whether this is the thing that you're aware of
Speaker 4: or not, but so much of your work is around
Speaker 4: having strong boundaries and like knowing that not everything you
Speaker 4: feel is your own, whereas Mela, like, you know, you're
Speaker 4: so sensitive in general in your design, but you actually
Speaker 4: have these like powerful emotions that you project out into
Speaker 4: the world. And so when you're like in a good
Speaker 4: mood and feeling good, it's like so infectious and it
Speaker 4: probably feels like amazing to be around. But like when
Speaker 4: you're in like an emotional low, like that's probably also felt.
Speaker 4: And so I would just say in the relationship, but
Speaker 4: something to be aware of. Like I would say, Meila,
Speaker 4: if you're like in a low probably a good time
Speaker 4: to like be in your own space and do your
Speaker 4: own thing, you know. And if Erica, if you ever
Speaker 4: feel overwhelmed by emotions, whether it's Mela or just like
Speaker 4: literally anyone around you, I would just like take some
Speaker 4: space to kind of pull away and be in your
Speaker 4: own energy in space. Do you guys feel that dynamic
Speaker 4: at all?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like my is this my shoe? I
Speaker 1: feel like my energy is really intense and I don't
Speaker 1: mean it to be, but I can't help it. And
Speaker 1: then it affects the whole space. And then everyone is like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Erica? And I'm like, just leave me
Speaker 1: the funk along, Like I just want to sit here.
Speaker 1: Just let me sit here and be in my ship.
Speaker 1: You guys carry.
Speaker 2: On doing, everyone carry on, so see us.
Speaker 1: I'm a bitch right now. God just let me be bitchy.
Speaker 1: But then I had to be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you probably just got to go, got to just get
Speaker 1: out of here. And then with Mela, it's true, people
Speaker 1: love to be around Mila because she is such like
Speaker 1: as like and she she's you're a positive person, overall,
Speaker 1: but when you are when there is something wrong, like
Speaker 1: I can tell probably very fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: Because the light is so bright around her and she's
Speaker 1: such an attractor. That and that, and that's why people
Speaker 1: love to be around you. That's why people call you
Speaker 1: a one am. We want to come over, you know,
Speaker 1: all different types of people, not like just dudes, like girlfriends,
Speaker 1: Like hey, I'm in the neighborhood, like where if people no,
Speaker 1: don't call me one and I'm not answering. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm going to curse you out.
Speaker 4: Sure, come over, I would say one other piece, like
Speaker 4: when it just comes and we can look at your
Speaker 4: daughters if you want to. But I think, like when
Speaker 4: it comes to your team and support, Like I think
Speaker 4: because like Erica, you're such a natural leader and guide
Speaker 4: and merely you're such an amazing like initiator and innovator,
Speaker 4: Like it really would probably be good to have people
Speaker 4: around that like can really just like do and sustain
Speaker 4: that and like are really dependable because for both of you,
Speaker 4: like your energy ebbs and flows, and you guys bring
Speaker 4: extraordinary gifts to the teams. But it's not to a team.
Speaker 4: But it's not always like your ability to just like
Speaker 4: consistently make things happen. And so I think that if
Speaker 4: you were to hire bring on support, that probably would
Speaker 4: be really good to have around you.
Speaker 2: So basically we need to add what's your birthday in
Speaker 2: time of birth to every single person that ever applies
Speaker 2: to application.
Speaker 1: Wait, can you tell us what what are all of
Speaker 1: the different Yeah? Different types.
Speaker 4: So the types that we haven't talked about are generators,
Speaker 4: manifesting generators, and reflectors. And so the majority of the
Speaker 4: population are generators and manifesting generators. This in no way
Speaker 4: means that you're not unique if you're one of these types. Like,
Speaker 4: these types are just so necessary and again it's just
Speaker 4: the first piece. It just means that you have such
Speaker 4: creative energy to just like build, create, make things happen.
Speaker 4: When these people are like kind of lit up and
Speaker 4: satisfied by what they're doing, they have so much energy
Speaker 4: they kind of uplift the energy to everyone around them.
Speaker 4: Then they really just have such a beautiful ability to
Speaker 4: kind of bring ideas to life.
Speaker 1: That's the manifestor generators and the generators.
Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, and so and I believe Mela, your daughter
Speaker 4: is a manifesting generator. And then reflectors are the rarest
Speaker 4: type one person. And these people kind of are collective mirrors,
Speaker 4: people that are kind of taking in and mirroring back
Speaker 4: the space that they're in. So you really get a
Speaker 4: good sense of how people are doing, our families doing
Speaker 4: just by how that person is showing up. And so
Speaker 4: they've got to be just like such ruthless curators, the
Speaker 4: kind of the people are spending time with and the
Speaker 4: places they're spending time in. Should we talk a little bit, Oh,
Speaker 4: go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 1: Right, I have a question so in our in our partnership,
Speaker 1: as you know, business owners, what would so out of
Speaker 1: all those what do we need?
Speaker 3: What do we what do we need? What do we
Speaker 3: need to hire?
Speaker 1: Do we need a generator? Do we need a manifestor generator,
Speaker 1: we need reflector like totally it's going to complete the circle.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm always know it's a jar, right. I'm
Speaker 4: always like a little bit hesitant because obviously don't want
Speaker 4: to hire purely based on type, you know, and you're
Speaker 4: going to be attracted to somebody who's different, but I
Speaker 4: think that like you'll get a sense that they bring
Speaker 4: something that you don't have. So I'm always a little
Speaker 4: bit hesitant to say, like just higher based on type. Obviously,
Speaker 4: it's way beyond that, and there's so much beyond type
Speaker 4: that we'll kind of talk about that will reveal how
Speaker 4: you can kind of best be supported by people. But
Speaker 4: I think in general, it probably would be nice to
Speaker 4: have some generator or manifesting generator energy around you, you know,
Speaker 4: because again that's kind of and honestly, most teams that
Speaker 4: I work with are primarily those types, you know, and
Speaker 4: then you have like a projector a manifestor, so it
Speaker 4: is kind of really nice to have some of that
Speaker 4: kind of as a foundational energy. I'm a projector like Eric,
Speaker 4: my partner is a generator, and it's a nice balance,
Speaker 4: so I would say, and you'll probably feel that when
Speaker 4: you have people around you that you're like, I can
Speaker 4: really remind you and there's so little by what they're
Speaker 4: doing and it gives us energy because they're so excited
Speaker 4: by it. But I think that would probably be really good.
Speaker 1: I need to get all of everyone on our team's
Speaker 1: birthday end.
Speaker 3: Time on birthday, Yeah, like what are you doing? Who
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: David's definitely a generator or a manifestor generator.
Speaker 1: He's for sure for sure. Yeah, I think may might
Speaker 1: be a manifestor Yeah, she's really good at that beginning,
Speaker 1: She's like she might be a manifestor generator. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: we're expert. I'm an expert. Sorry, not one one episode,
Speaker 1: one convo. Now I know it all.
Speaker 4: It's so fun guessing though, Like and I'm not always
Speaker 4: right either, but you can really start to feel these things,
Speaker 4: you know, And so I always love being like you're this,
Speaker 4: maybe this is happening. Do you guys want to hear
Speaker 4: a little bit about your kids? Yeah, okay, we'll just
Speaker 4: do like a little bit just to give y'all a taste. So, okay,
Speaker 4: let's start with Luna. So Luna's a manifesting generator, and
Speaker 4: so I'll just orient this kind of around parenting specifically.
Speaker 4: I would say like manifesting generators, like in specifically Luna
Speaker 4: have like so much like charisma and energy and power,
Speaker 4: and like when they're lit up by what they're doing,
Speaker 4: it's so magnetic and I feel so good to be
Speaker 4: around them. I think a big thing for you to know,
Speaker 4: Mela is that, like manifesting generators aren't really meant to
Speaker 4: enough sick one like choose one thing and just stick
Speaker 4: to it, like they often thrive when they can try
Speaker 4: on lots of different things. And so I would never
Speaker 4: make her wrong for like quitting or moving on from something,
Speaker 4: but really giving her permission to just like try it
Speaker 4: all and know that like trying on and letting go things,
Speaker 4: letting go of things is part of her process. Do
Speaker 4: you see that at all yet in her?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she likes a lot of things, And yeah, like
Speaker 2: I see that I can't.
Speaker 1: Push her to do what she doesn't want to do.
Speaker 2: She's very clear about what she wants to do what
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to do, and like I can nunt her,
Speaker 2: but like the more I nutu her, the more she resists.
Speaker 2: So I do see that she is someone to let
Speaker 2: be do how she wants to, you know, dabble in
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: And she works well with like a lot of encouragement.
Speaker 2: If she feels good and empowered she does, she feels
Speaker 2: like I can feel that energy. Whereas she doesn't feel
Speaker 2: empowered or like she's good at it, she kind of.
Speaker 4: Can give up mm hmm. And she's also just like
Speaker 4: meant to be natural what she does. Like she's just
Speaker 4: meant to do the things that feel like easy and
Speaker 4: natural and really kind of feel and flow to her.
Speaker 4: So if you notice things that are really coming easily
Speaker 4: and naturally, I would definitely like help invest more and
Speaker 4: help her invest more in those things. And she's somebody
Speaker 4: who's a really strong gut feeling, and so if you're
Speaker 4: trying to communicate with her, sometimes it could be good
Speaker 4: to give her options. Instead of being like, hey, Luna,
Speaker 4: like what do you want to do today, I'd be like, Luna, like,
Speaker 4: do you want to go out here? Or do this?
Speaker 4: Like do you want to do this or this? And
Speaker 4: you might find that like when you pose really specific questions,
Speaker 4: she might be like yep, nope, yep, nope. You know,
Speaker 4: so kind of really just like honoring that and helping
Speaker 4: her kind of connect to that gut feeling. She's also
Speaker 4: quite a bargainer. I don't know if you notice that
Speaker 4: at all, but like she really like brings a lot
Speaker 4: of like heart to whatever it is that she does,
Speaker 4: but it feels like she needs to kind of receive
Speaker 4: in return, you know, So it's good to have like
Speaker 4: reciprocity to feel like she's giving so much and feeling
Speaker 4: so appreciated. And so I love what you said about encouragement.
Speaker 4: I would just kind of really encourage and honor and
Speaker 4: kind of make sure she feels really just like appreciate
Speaker 4: it and valued in whatever it is she's doing okay,
Speaker 4: And do you have any specific questions about her? I
Speaker 4: would say one of the pieces, she's super sensitive, like
Speaker 4: the two of you, like, super sensitive to her physical space.
Speaker 4: So I would also always just keep an eye on,
Speaker 4: like how her space feels, like do classrooms feel okay?
Speaker 4: Does her bedroom feel okay? Like does the home feel okay?
Speaker 4: Like if you go to hotel, does the hotel feel okay?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: She takes in so much in her space and making
Speaker 4: sure the space itself feels really good for her.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this space?
Speaker 3: Do you like it? It fee doesn't make you feel good?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How do you like your room? We change something or
Speaker 1: you like it just like this? Yeah, it's interesting. We
Speaker 1: had a reading done with on our kids, and that's
Speaker 1: one of those One of the things that you said
Speaker 1: right now just stood out to me about Luna because
Speaker 1: she said that Luna will try a lot. It's going
Speaker 1: to want to try a lot of things in her life,
Speaker 1: Like she needs to try a lot of things that
Speaker 1: it's going to be it might feel difficult to kind
Speaker 1: of pin her down to one thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's not meant to just do one thing.
Speaker 4: Is probably gonna feel really limited and combined in that case,
Speaker 4: because there's so many parts of her that will want
Speaker 4: to be expressed. And so again, like, however, you can
Speaker 4: support her and just like doing that and honoring that. Honestly,
Speaker 4: a lot of manifesting generators I worked with, like adult
Speaker 4: manifesting generators have been like made it feel like scattered
Speaker 4: or like they're doing too much, and so they've kind
Speaker 4: of made themselves wrong for being multi passionate when they're
Speaker 4: actually meant to be so multipass passionate exactly. So like, however,
Speaker 4: you could support her and like really giving herself that
Speaker 4: permission from early on the better, and she's fast go ahead.
Speaker 1: How to manifest your generators? Like, because they want to
Speaker 1: try so many things, do they ever master anything?
Speaker 4: Like they often master things very quickly. They can like
Speaker 4: go deep in and like and also they might like
Speaker 4: master one thing and just express it that thing in
Speaker 4: multiple ways throughout their life. But like it is very
Speaker 4: normal for them to try a thing, go deep in it,
Speaker 4: be amazing at it, and then move on like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just all about like honoring where their energy wants
Speaker 4: to go and not seeing that as scattered or selfish,
Speaker 4: but as the thing that kind of ends up allowing
Speaker 4: them to have the most positive impact in the world. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's talk about Irie. Am I saying that right? M
Speaker 4: h Yeah. So Irie is a projector like you, Erica,
Speaker 4: So it's nice to have that in the family. So
Speaker 4: in the same way that I told Mela to like
Speaker 4: really recognize you and value you, I would do the
Speaker 4: same for Iri, like just really like noticing what they
Speaker 4: do really well, like kind of their perspective and really
Speaker 4: inviting it in and just like reminding her of like
Speaker 4: all the things that you see. Her energy, like yours,
Speaker 4: is meant to eb and flow, and so like you know,
Speaker 4: really giving both of you permission to take rest and
Speaker 4: space when you can. She's not meant to be quite
Speaker 4: as spontaneous as you, Like, she often needs to kind
Speaker 4: of sleep on things and feel into things, and you're
Speaker 4: probably so sensitive to her feelings and so like I
Speaker 4: would just like not pressure her to make decisions more
Speaker 4: quickly than feels natural to her. And she's such a dreamer,
Speaker 4: like in her design, I don't know whether she's conscious
Speaker 4: of but conscious of it. But she's really good at
Speaker 4: kind of like dreaming about all the things that are possible,
Speaker 4: and she might be like a little bit restless for
Speaker 4: like newness and new experiences, but again, it's good to
Speaker 4: kind of take her time to like sleep on things
Speaker 4: and feel into things to kind of really know what's
Speaker 4: there for her. She needs out of freedom in her
Speaker 4: her design, Like she might be like a little bit
Speaker 4: trapped or confine if she's in the same environment with
Speaker 4: the same person all day every day. So I think
Speaker 4: it's going to support her and like moving her energy
Speaker 4: about going for walks, going to the park, to kind
Speaker 4: of just be simmered in like lots of new and
Speaker 4: different ways. Do you notice any of this stuff in her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say that she does not
Speaker 1: like to make decisions quickly. She definitely needs her time,
Speaker 1: and like I think that's sometimes where we kind of
Speaker 1: like clash a little bit, where I'm like, just come on,
Speaker 1: it's my decision, and she's like so slow, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you so slow, darling? But I
Speaker 1: definitely feel like she me and her are in it's
Speaker 1: very obviously to my daughter, but like I feel that
Speaker 1: that kind of like she likes to take control, she
Speaker 1: likes to lead. She's still like learning how to feel
Speaker 1: really empowered in that space. She definitely you know, I
Speaker 1: sometimes I see it's so interesting being a parent when
Speaker 1: you see like your kids like little insecurities or like
Speaker 1: how they like compare themselves to like their their their friends,
Speaker 1: like even like our daughters their best friends, but you know,
Speaker 1: and their strengths are different, you know, and they start
Speaker 1: comparing one another when like Luna is like a really
Speaker 1: great dancer, my daughter, you know, she's like more like
Speaker 1: interpretive dance. She's kind of like modern dance. Luna's more
Speaker 1: like TikTok, you know, freestyle like Missy Elliott dance. And
Speaker 1: so sometimes I'll see my daughter like look at Luna,
Speaker 1: like and she gets like a little nervous and she's
Speaker 1: like I don't want to do it never mind, you know,
Speaker 1: And so like seeing her, you know, acknowledged maybe some
Speaker 1: of her little weaknesses, but like she doesn't give up.
Speaker 1: She's very like driven, she's very competitive. She wants to
Speaker 1: be the best, and but she's will to work at it.
Speaker 1: She's willing to take her time and work at it.
Speaker 1: And words of affirmation are really important to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love to give them to her, so it's
Speaker 1: easy for me to do that. But yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say that those things do they sound like her?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And go ahead, no, go ahead. I was just
Speaker 4: going to say. One of her biggest lessons in her
Speaker 4: design is just like knowing that she's not here to
Speaker 4: prove herself, like her self esteemed convaclate, where she might
Speaker 4: have one day she's like, I'm the best and the
Speaker 4: next day she's like, but am I really? And like,
Speaker 4: you know, and this might not be a lesson she
Speaker 4: learns now at six, but I think just like in
Speaker 4: general that like, you know, she's really meant to like
Speaker 4: do what she feels recognized in and what she feels
Speaker 4: inspired to do, and like not do things just to
Speaker 4: prove her value and proof her worth. And so it's
Speaker 4: just like a thing to be aware of ericas like
Speaker 4: kind of watching when that's the motivation and kind of
Speaker 4: reminding her that there's nothing to prove, you know. So
Speaker 4: that will be a lesson over life and probably a
Speaker 4: lifelong one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that is a lesson over life.
Speaker 1: I feel that now already it's like her feelings she
Speaker 1: has to prove this, improve that, and I'm like, girl,
Speaker 1: like no, and it's like I don't know. That's like
Speaker 1: what's so hard about being a parent. It's like you
Speaker 1: can tell your kids all the things, you can say,
Speaker 1: the things you can think, they're so amazing, but like
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that that's what's gonna Like that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know stick with them, you know. And
Speaker 1: it's like I think about even my mom, like, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to empower me as a kid when I felt
Speaker 1: insecure and I didn't care, Like I was just like
Speaker 1: that doesn't make me change how I feel, right, And
Speaker 1: like as a parent, You're like why I wanted to please?
Speaker 1: You're so amazing, you don't have shit to prove. Like
Speaker 1: so I guess that is something that I definitely feel
Speaker 1: like it's going it's going to be like a lifelong thing.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe just really empowering her and the
Speaker 1: things that she's really good at. Like the other day,
Speaker 1: our daughters play soccer together, and soccer's over, so she
Speaker 1: was like, what are we gonna do next? Like what
Speaker 1: am I doing next? Like she's ready to like fill
Speaker 1: that spot that's like missing, and I'm like okay with chill.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I want to do dance. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what about because my daughter, like she's kind
Speaker 1: of she she likes to act, but I've feel like
Speaker 1: a little bit hesitant about acting because I've been acting
Speaker 1: my whole life and it's a source for me of
Speaker 1: like some of my insecurity because I started doing it
Speaker 1: as a child. You start comparing yourself to other people.
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, let me not like
Speaker 1: put my shit on her, you know, like, let me
Speaker 1: not assume that she's going to become this or that.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to let her do it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, just got to start with class
Speaker 1: and like, let me empower her because she really wants
Speaker 1: to do it. So I'm excited for her to kind
Speaker 1: of do that and get feel empowered and do good
Speaker 1: at that and feel like she doesn't really have anything
Speaker 1: to prove. It's just because she's working at it and
Speaker 1: it feels good to her and it feels natural to her.
Speaker 4: Totally, yes, and again she I just like noticing those
Speaker 4: things and supporting her in that. And one other thing
Speaker 4: I would just say that came up when you said that,
Speaker 4: like the soccer finished and you want to do the
Speaker 4: next thing. Like she's got the same lesson as you
Speaker 4: of like not knowing enough is enough where it's just
Speaker 4: like I've got to just feel the space and do
Speaker 4: more and never stop. And so like I think you
Speaker 4: learning that lesson and giving yourself more space and rest
Speaker 4: will give her permission to do that kind of as well.
Speaker 4: But just knowing that, you know, and just be like,
Speaker 4: do you really have the energy you're super excited about
Speaker 4: acting like, if so, let's do it. But not just
Speaker 4: because you need to fill the space, right, So if
Speaker 4: you have any questions about her, I love that you're
Speaker 4: both projectors and I yeah, sorry. One last weeks that
Speaker 4: I would share is that she's got the same need
Speaker 4: as Mela does in terms of just like community and
Speaker 4: network and people, and so I think really kind of
Speaker 4: paying attention to her friends, and I think ideally she
Speaker 4: has friends that really recognize her and value her, like
Speaker 4: I think that Luna seems to do so well, and
Speaker 4: just like as she grows older, like and maybe you
Speaker 4: have this already having like a really a real foundation
Speaker 4: of friendship with her, you know, like I think just
Speaker 4: like she really like is meant to have like deep
Speaker 4: relationships and so many of her opportunities come to the
Speaker 4: people that she knows, so just kind of keeping an
Speaker 4: eye on and really kind of supporting her and developing
Speaker 4: a really nice community.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because me and me, like
Speaker 1: I've been feeling more and more and now she's six,
Speaker 1: and like I'm seeing like all these moms at school,
Speaker 1: they're so like good about connecting the kids, and like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to be better at this because
Speaker 1: we went to a little girl's birthday party and I
Speaker 1: just saw my daughter just thriving with all of her friends,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have to do better at like
Speaker 1: making sure that she like it's my job to like
Speaker 1: help her foster relationships outside of school, you know, not
Speaker 1: just like Okay, school's done. Now we're done, and like
Speaker 1: that's the only time that you get to see your friends.
Speaker 1: Like how do I bring like kind of curate her
Speaker 1: tribe in a way, like Okay, yeah, we let's not
Speaker 1: hang out with that little girl. Oh wow, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's your friend, girl, but I like that one.
Speaker 1: Let's bring her over, you know, and like kind of
Speaker 1: cultivating like these safe spaces with her friends and like
Speaker 1: that's kind of what's really cool about being a parent too,
Speaker 1: is that kind of like that's that's a really big responsibility,
Speaker 1: but it's but it's fun. And I think she also
Speaker 1: kind of knows what feels good, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: gonna know like who she wants to hang out with
Speaker 1: and who makes her feel good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would even ask her like do you
Speaker 4: feel really recognized by them? Like do you feel really
Speaker 4: seen by them?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: I think that as projectors, like that's what fuels us
Speaker 4: feeling recognized and seen, So it could be useful to
Speaker 4: have those conversations.
Speaker 2: This is so interesting, like we I mean, even for
Speaker 2: Erica and I to like have a better insight on
Speaker 2: how to better like be business partners, how to better
Speaker 2: support each other and empower each other, like what expectations
Speaker 2: to have with one another, which obviously over time we've
Speaker 2: kind of developed a little bit, but like still like
Speaker 2: even to extend it to our children, and like we're
Speaker 2: also like a family unit and we're all so very different.
Speaker 2: We're obviously also very fucking hyper sensitive and EmPATH you know,
Speaker 2: and it's just like we're always always all feeling each
Speaker 2: other and it's so fucking intense because we're already already
Speaker 2: like a bunch of women and even little women, and
Speaker 2: just like seeing how they thrive together and how they
Speaker 2: interact together, and how they argue and fight and then
Speaker 2: like how they make up and like, oh, it's just
Speaker 2: such an interesting dynamic, And like what a gift to
Speaker 2: be able to give have the tools to kind of
Speaker 2: be able to see people as they are and like
Speaker 2: their primal innate setting, because sometimes I.
Speaker 3: Think it is we are.
Speaker 2: There's so much comparison, there's so many things like I
Speaker 2: should be more driven, I should finish more things. I
Speaker 2: should be doing it quicker. I should be here, I
Speaker 2: should be there, Like look at how she dances, you know.
Speaker 2: Like the other day, Lynda said to me talking about
Speaker 2: someone at school, like so and so so smart, she
Speaker 2: never gets anything wrong. So I was like, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get things wrong, Like that's how you learn. She's like
Speaker 2: so and so never gets anything wrong. She's the smartest
Speaker 2: girl in the class. I never thought i'd hear my
Speaker 2: kids say the smartest girl in the class.
Speaker 3: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you're smart, and like everyone has different
Speaker 2: things that they're good at. But just like the way
Speaker 2: we as parents can quiet those you know, those naturally
Speaker 2: competitive parts of us that come up, those naturally like
Speaker 2: those images that we're gonna like see or get flooded
Speaker 2: to our kids all the time. Like we're just it's
Speaker 2: so interesting to be able to to like conduct our
Speaker 2: little unit better.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: We were in Costa Rica one time, I mean this
Speaker 2: last time, and we were at dinner and we're like
Speaker 2: playing truth or Dare and then it got emotional, like
Speaker 2: all four of us.
Speaker 1: They got like we got into an argument. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the food thing.
Speaker 2: It was I fool, like I really didn't want to eat,
Speaker 2: and then Eric she got an attitude with Erica, and
Speaker 2: then Erica was like.
Speaker 1: You've had a really good trip.
Speaker 7: And then Luna tried to like defend Erica and yeah,
Speaker 7: Luna was like like trying to support me and like
Speaker 7: kind of like tell Iri like, yeah, you need to eat,
Speaker 7: Like why don't you ever eat what your mom gives you?
Speaker 1: And then you don't eat ever?
Speaker 2: And then Iri got sensitive that she said something to Luna,
Speaker 2: and then Luna got sensitive and then they.
Speaker 1: Started crying, and then I started crying, and they were
Speaker 1: all crying, fucking.
Speaker 2: Crying, ass emotional ass women and Costa Rica in the
Speaker 2: rain and I at a dinner table. At a dinner table,
Speaker 2: people were looking at us like, what the hell is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have a question, like so what
Speaker 1: and what? Like you you said, how basically Mila can
Speaker 1: like help support me? Yeah, how can I support like
Speaker 1: my manifesting friend, And then how can Luna support my
Speaker 1: projecting ass daughter? And then how can my projector help
Speaker 1: my little manifestor generator.
Speaker 4: So in terms of how you can support Mela is like,
Speaker 4: Mela is so powerful, and I think it's really good
Speaker 4: for Mela to be around people that feel really expanded
Speaker 4: by how powerful she is and not like threatened by it.
Speaker 4: And so I think kind of reminding me of like
Speaker 4: her power, her impact, like kind of how impactful she
Speaker 4: can be when she's like super bold and courageous a
Speaker 4: big I think really honoring like Mela's sensitivity. So if
Speaker 4: you notice that her energy waning, like really kind of
Speaker 4: giving her space to be in her own energy. And
Speaker 4: you're super independent, so I think also giving having space
Speaker 4: to being your own flow and you want to can
Speaker 4: be really useful. I think also encouraging Mela to sleep
Speaker 4: on things, you know, and just take a bee, like
Speaker 4: not necessarily like three days or a week, but it's
Speaker 4: just like take a couple hours, you know, let me
Speaker 4: know tomorrow, like and I'm not pressuring or like really
Speaker 4: being origin around it. Those are some pieces. Does that
Speaker 4: make sense? Yeah, And also having a really strong communication dynamic.
Speaker 4: I think, like I didn't mention it's for you, Mila,
Speaker 4: but like for manifestors, a part of their strategy is
Speaker 4: around keeping people in the loop. If you just like
Speaker 4: go off and do things and don't let people know,
Speaker 4: they can be like a little bit suspicious or just resistant.
Speaker 4: Whereas if you're just like, hey, I'm doing this thing,
Speaker 4: like you're not asking for permission, You're just like letting
Speaker 4: them know, you might find a lot more easy in
Speaker 4: your relationships. It feels like you guys have a pretty
Speaker 4: good communication dynamic. But I would just make sure you're
Speaker 4: keeping people in the loop and just be like, not
Speaker 4: in the mood today, not going to do this thing
Speaker 4: coming here, so just to kind of keep people informative
Speaker 4: where you are. In terms of how Luna can support Irie,
Speaker 4: I think that like one recognizing her in the same
Speaker 4: way that I think that it's so good for you
Speaker 4: to do that Erica like be like, I love the
Speaker 4: way that you do. This's what's your perspective on this?
Speaker 4: You know, just kind of really inviting her inside in
Speaker 4: I would say, not expecting Iri to keep up or
Speaker 4: move as fast or do as much. You know, I
Speaker 4: rease energy might evan Folow a little bit more. So
Speaker 4: I think really kind of not expecting her to like
Speaker 4: necessarily always move at the same pace as Luna. I
Speaker 4: think really kind of encourage you're going to time, and
Speaker 4: also honestly just building a really solid foundation of friendship.
Speaker 4: You know that they can like really trust and they
Speaker 4: feel like they can like really stand on and as
Speaker 4: much as you can kind of really not trying to
Speaker 4: make it doesn't like she does this, but I think, like,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of trying to make I reprove herself
Speaker 4: or anything like that. I think in terms about Iri
Speaker 4: can best support Luna is I mean, they're both going
Speaker 4: to actually take their time. But I think also really
Speaker 4: just like appreciating her and valuing her. Again, Like I said,
Speaker 4: Luna has like so much to give, but like what
Speaker 4: allows her to give is like she's like I feel
Speaker 4: so valued in like what I'm doing. So I think
Speaker 4: really honoring that I think really giving Luna space to
Speaker 4: be in her own creative flow when she wants to.
Speaker 4: Luna's also got a bit of a hermit nature, which
Speaker 4: she's not meant to be hermiting all the time, but
Speaker 4: just having space and time to pull away can be great.
Speaker 4: I think honoring Luna's sensitivity or space to make sure
Speaker 4: this space she's in is feeling good, and also like
Speaker 4: asking her those specific questions again, like hey, like do
Speaker 4: you want to do this or this? Like instead of
Speaker 4: like what do you want to do? Like give her
Speaker 4: options kind of see what her immediate impulse is because
Speaker 4: she's got such a powerful gut instinct when you ask
Speaker 4: her questions right.
Speaker 2: Way, letting her hone in on her own intuitive powers.
Speaker 2: I have been trying to like practicing at like just
Speaker 2: letting her be aligned with that, you know however she
Speaker 2: feels naturally.
Speaker 4: Totally no need to explain it.
Speaker 1: I'man not talk diary. I think it's really important that
Speaker 1: like we talk to our kids. I mean I'm just
Speaker 1: coming to this now having this conversation, but just giving
Speaker 1: your kids the tools to like know how they can
Speaker 1: support their friends and care to you know, like making
Speaker 1: that a priority to them.
Speaker 2: How do you care for other people? How do you
Speaker 2: show up as a friend? How does that make them feel? Well,
Speaker 2: maybe this person's more sensitive, yeah, like and having.
Speaker 1: Those conversations and I mean and not just like oh,
Speaker 1: they'll figure it out, you know, figure it out. Sorry, bye,
Speaker 1: Like no, don't do that again. Bye, We'll be in
Speaker 1: the other room. Like no, like really having those conversations
Speaker 1: with them, even at this age. I think this is
Speaker 1: like why wait, you know, like why wait to teach
Speaker 1: your kids how to have healthy relationships with their friends
Speaker 1: and show up for them if you have the tools,
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, Iri doesn't really like when when
Speaker 1: you do that, Luna, or like Luna, Iri doesn't Luna
Speaker 1: doesn't like when you say that, Like how can how
Speaker 1: can you get your point across without you know, making
Speaker 1: her feel this way? Let's try it again. I think
Speaker 1: it's really important. Yeah. And also it is such a
Speaker 1: I was just saying that this is just also really
Speaker 1: just really insightful for our girls.
Speaker 4: Also just such a good lesson early on to like
Speaker 4: not expect others to do it, like you just be
Speaker 4: like they are going to like move really differently through
Speaker 4: the world. And so instead of like wanting them to
Speaker 4: be different than what they are more similar to me,
Speaker 4: Like how can I just like honor how they operate
Speaker 4: and so again, whether it comes to how we parent,
Speaker 4: or whether we work together, or how we partner with people.
Speaker 4: I just think it's so powerful to understand exactly how
Speaker 4: we're each wired, which is what human design does, because
Speaker 4: it's just like I think that we can like flow
Speaker 4: so much more easily together because we're not trying to
Speaker 4: be the same.
Speaker 1: Are there any human designs that are just like not compatible,
Speaker 1: like they just shouldn't really co exist. No, I just
Speaker 1: maybe in love or something.
Speaker 4: I mean, I I would say no, because I think
Speaker 4: that's so disempowering to kind of tell people that I
Speaker 4: think there are some that are going to probably require
Speaker 4: more work than others. And it's less about like type
Speaker 4: be it type, but actually like deeper layers. But I
Speaker 4: think in cases like that, like as long as you
Speaker 4: really understand each other and honor that anything possible. But
Speaker 4: some might require a bit more work. And honestly, when
Speaker 4: we date people that are really similar to us, there
Speaker 4: could be like a very similar residence and understanding and familiarity,
Speaker 4: but we're also often attracted to difference you know, so
Speaker 4: like I've seen it work so beautifully either way. But
Speaker 4: it really just comes down to, like are you really
Speaker 4: honoring how different they are or you trying to expect
Speaker 4: kind of or you expect them to be the same.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, this was so insighting.
Speaker 2: It is, it's so insightful, and it's so helpful to
Speaker 2: remember to like just honor yourself, you know, Like I said,
Speaker 2: there's so much pressure to perform and to be this
Speaker 2: or that, be righteous. This is the standard, what good is,
Speaker 2: what successful is, and this is what you have to
Speaker 2: do to accomplish that. But like it kind of brings
Speaker 2: you back down to like just the bear, like your
Speaker 2: nature and what your nature is, even you like taking
Speaker 2: the leap to me the guy at your friend's house,
Speaker 2: and then say fuck that other job.
Speaker 1: This is probably what I'm called to.
Speaker 4: Do, you know, like Mardi were taking me. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Would never you know, we'd never be here talking to
Speaker 2: you sharing this message. And like I think people miss that,
Speaker 2: you know, and your purpose is that it's not going
Speaker 2: to be perfect. It's not going to be created like
Speaker 2: this in this box, even you know, us, in this
Speaker 2: interesting space that we ended up in, like we didn't
Speaker 2: mean to create this community, but we have and that's
Speaker 2: because we took a chance on trusting our innate powers.
Speaker 2: And I think this is so like beneficial if people
Speaker 2: were able to kind of have insight on what those
Speaker 2: powers are and then go with it, go with their gut.
Speaker 2: So thank you so so so much Aarin for sharing
Speaker 2: with us and sharing human design.
Speaker 1: We forgot to ask you earlier.
Speaker 2: Do you have an affirmation for the people's Oh, I
Speaker 2: think after this conversation.
Speaker 4: Just honoring exactly what as you are and however it
Speaker 4: does you do things even if it's different than everyone
Speaker 4: around you.
Speaker 8: I honor exactly who I am, Eily, Yeah, enough, exactly
Speaker 8: who I am, and that's enough, and that's enough.
Speaker 3: I cannot be anyone else. I'm trying and doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would love to stretch ourselves, and of course
Speaker 2: stretch yourself better yourself, but like be kind to yourself
Speaker 2: and honor who you are in the process. Don't try
Speaker 2: to pull yourself into a direction that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I hate men. So can you let the people know
Speaker 1: where they can find you and get their human design?
Speaker 1: I know I see a lot of like human designs.
Speaker 1: You can just like input your information in the websites,
Speaker 1: but this is so much deeper. I want to encourage
Speaker 1: you guys to contact Aaron because she can really give
Speaker 1: you like real insight, not just generated Google insight, like a.
Speaker 3: Six blueprint insight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm Aaron Claire Jones everywhere Aaron Claire Jones
Speaker 4: dot com, My Instagram's Aaron Claire Jones. And yes, if
Speaker 4: you wanted to deeper, I would say probably the best
Speaker 4: place to start as getting your blueprint, which is like
Speaker 4: a fifty five plus page just like written guide to
Speaker 4: your unique design. It walks you through all the most
Speaker 4: important pieces that we talked about today and so much more,
Speaker 4: and it's meant to just be like a book to
Speaker 4: how you operate best. And I'm having to create a
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Speaker 4: partnership sessions, family sessions, team sessions if you want to
Speaker 4: talk through it all together.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much, Aaron, and you guys know
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