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Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio Commies a Myth and Bullshit, a radiophonic novella.

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Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by malamo Ola La Loca Mortis. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to season three of Local Radios. Because fem revenge has

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Speaker 1: never sounded so sweet. Look at Radio is a radiophonic

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Speaker 1: novella archiving the brilliance and legacies of women and fans

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Speaker 1: of color. I'm Fiosa and I'm Mala, and we are

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Speaker 1: mommies of Myth and Bullshit. Last Radio, a radiophonic novella,

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Speaker 1: which is just a really extra way of saying a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Welcome back. It's been a hot minute. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited to be recording today and we chatting with y'all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you once again for tuning in and for joining

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Speaker 1: us here at Radio Spacio, located um within Espaci nine

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Speaker 1: and Boil Heights. I'm so excited for today's episode same

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Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about a lot of different

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Speaker 1: things today and then we have a guest and interview

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Speaker 1: for the second half of a special guest, a special guest.

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Speaker 1: Also this is eight. We just keep on, keep on,

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Speaker 1: keeping on, keep on, keeping on exactly, So before we

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Speaker 1: get into some of the content. We just want to

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Speaker 1: go over some logistics and discuss some upcoming events that

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Speaker 1: we have that are super dope. Some we're a part

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Speaker 1: of and some we're producing ourselves. We are as they say,

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Speaker 1: booked and busy, books and busy. It's probably one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite, UM little little absolutely of the current moment,

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Speaker 1: and um it is very true of our life right now.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot going on. The first event that

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Speaker 1: UM is going to be happening the same day that

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Speaker 1: this episode airs. Yes, we're gonna be femcs at Outfest

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Speaker 1: for the Queer Open Mic nine July. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: will be as we have just been staying there. We

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Speaker 1: were just there were just last night last night for

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Speaker 1: La Junta's and at Laos event that Lados which we

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Speaker 1: interviewed them in the last But anyway, that will be

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Speaker 1: on July, said Rassa. And it's actually an open mic,

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Speaker 1: so they are taking submission, So if you'd like to

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Speaker 1: share your story, uh, share a poem, share something, um,

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Speaker 1: there's a link that we can share for you to

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Speaker 1: sign up, and we will be the fem cis for

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Speaker 1: that evening. Come on out, Come on out, and then

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Speaker 1: we have more podcasting one oh one workshop. So we

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Speaker 1: have a podcasting one on one workshop at the Venice

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Speaker 1: Library on July July, and that is our last a

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Speaker 1: podcasting workshop with the l A Public Library. So if

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Speaker 1: you have been waiting to go, I haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to make it. This is the last one that will

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Speaker 1: be at the library, so definitely cut try and make

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Speaker 1: that one. It'll be at six thirty at the Venice Library. Yep, yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: come on out. Now is the time. Then we have

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Speaker 1: our very first brunch. We're really excited to launch our brunch.

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Speaker 1: It's called Mommy's and Mimosas July at El sid on Sunset. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and tickets are for sale. There's different tiers that you

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Speaker 1: can purchase your your tickets for the brunch. Um. So

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Speaker 1: there's one tier if you just want like an entree

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Speaker 1: and one mimosa one drink. Um. There's a second one

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Speaker 1: which will all give you to drink tickets, and then

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Speaker 1: there's bottomless mimosas, which is our favor av um. And

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Speaker 1: also what's really cool is that the bottomless is also

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Speaker 1: for Bloody Maria's, Bloody Mary's and also beer, So if

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Speaker 1: you're not a mimosa drinker, there are other options for you.

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Speaker 1: Come on out and were millennial pink. If you want,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to do. We

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Speaker 1: do encourage the millennial pink, but also always do you

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Speaker 1: where would your constable in? Where would you love you?

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Speaker 1: Um and dj ZOOTI will be spinning yes face and

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Speaker 1: we are going to have a twerque contest that I

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Speaker 1: have forbidden Mala to participate in. Okay, then she'll win.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say that this rule was already established

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Speaker 1: before we even had a flyer, like for the events

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Speaker 1: we should have a chorque contest, And immediately I had

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Speaker 1: to shut it down. I was like, Mala, you can

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Speaker 1: be a judge, you cannot participate. You will win. I'm

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Speaker 1: not allowed. It's not fair to competitively twerk. I will

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Speaker 1: twork for fun and for joy for free, for free,

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Speaker 1: but I will not enter the competition. And you hose

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Speaker 1: are lucky. So come on now check out the event, bright,

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Speaker 1: get your tickets, come to my muse and mimosas yes

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Speaker 1: and then um, next event is actually an August event.

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Speaker 1: We are joining La Leaf the Los Angeles Latino International

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Speaker 1: Film Festival for the second time. August four, which is

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Speaker 1: a Sunday, at three pm. We will be or I

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Speaker 1: will be leading a conversation of Latica with who is

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Speaker 1: the creat and director of Mosquita Imadi And it's set

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Speaker 1: really excited to be moderating that conversation along with Moissa Samoa,

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Speaker 1: who is the creator of the up and coming Netflix

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Speaker 1: show Selena. Who how exciting. Yeah, it's gonna be great

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm dying to know who they cast as

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Speaker 1: Selena same who could it be? Like she has to

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Speaker 1: be perfect, she has to be like she really does,

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Speaker 1: because people are going to be really upset if it's

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Speaker 1: not cast choice. It's gotta be She's gotta be perfect, body, voice, charisma, looks, dancing, singing.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's amity. That's a big role. That's one

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Speaker 1: Jalo's career the entire like, she's still writing off of

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Speaker 1: that movie. It's been years. And also, um I remember

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Speaker 1: what I don't remember, but um I remember hearing about

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Speaker 1: later that people were really upset that Jalo was cast

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Speaker 1: because she was not Mexican. You know, she's Puerto Rican, right, so,

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Speaker 1: think that's an issue. No, you know, she just has

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Speaker 1: wonder I'm really curious if they get a Texan, if

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Speaker 1: would be ideal. I think I'm also wondering if maybe

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Speaker 1: to grow up with it. Yeah, totally, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We digress. Whoever you are, I can't wait to like, no,

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Speaker 1: So if you want to hear more about Latina representation

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Speaker 1: I'll be having with La Leif on August four. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that'll be so super cute. I've already put in my

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Speaker 1: and not derive too much, not try and and and

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Speaker 1: and take too much meaning out of every single thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we say here and talk a lot of ship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know what it becomes an

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Speaker 1: issue when something is like nitpicked and that's what's going on.

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00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: But you said us, and now you're saying that, I'm like,

427
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I said exactly. It's three years,

428
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, and this question wasn't it picking at us? Yeah?

429
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: So it was really strange. Um And you know, unfortunately,

430
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: like those are the kinds of messages where it then

431
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: makes this question like should we not even be answering

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00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: d M S anymore? Right? You know, because then it's like,

433
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: why are you interrogating me? I don't even know who

434
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: you are? And you know all this these details about

435
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: us because we've shared, right, We've shared these details, and

436
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: this is something that I talked about. I did a

437
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: story after this based off of this, like this exchange

438
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: with this move ahead, because it was really unsettling, to

439
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: be honest, and I had to tell her like the

440
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: nitpicking at our content and asking us questions about like

441
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: moves we made in our lives, like it was very

442
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: interrogation style, and I was like, this is making me uncomfortable,

443
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: like chill. So I did a story on it. And

444
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing, as listeners, keep these numbers in mind,

445
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: keep this situation in mind. We hit our five thous

446
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: in all time listens mark. That's half a million listens.

447
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people like listening to what we're saying.

448
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: We've been recording for three years or we just were

449
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: this has got beat the low sixty eight, right, Each

450
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: episode is is some Sometimes we have episodes that are

451
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: over an hour long. So I bet you we've recorded

452
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: like at least a hundred hours of audio since we've

453
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Speaker 1: been recording. Right, We have over nineteen thousand followers on

454
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Speaker 1: the look at account. We have ten k plus followers

455
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: on each of our individual accounts. That's thousands and thousands

456
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: of people engaging with our words constantly, or engaging with

457
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: like details about our lives that we choose to share.

458
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: But I say all this to remind you all that

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00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: you all know a lot more about us than we

460
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: will ever know about you. And it's an uneven exchange.

461
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: So when you like have somebody who's like art that

462
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: you like, or you have a podcaster that you listen to,

463
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind and like, don't take information

464
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: that an artist has shared with you and to like

465
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: weaponize it against them, you know, like do you like

466
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: us or do you not like us? Right? Do you

467
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: like us? Or do you want to come for us?

468
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah it was. It was very strange,

469
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: and you know, I wish her well. Yeah she followed

470
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: us and fed us, but all I said, your life

471
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: do you? It was really interesting. But anyway, that brings

472
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: us to our final question. Um, so I want to

473
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Speaker 1: thank this listener. She was super vulnerable in this d M.

474
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: And she stays that she's a new listener and she's

475
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and lives with her mom. And

476
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: she says, my mom is a single mother who cleans

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Speaker 1: houses and is getting into the habit of giving of

478
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Speaker 1: keeping everything that is given to her by her patrons,

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Speaker 1: and it's causing a hoarding problem. I love my mom

480
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Speaker 1: and all, but it's a tiny apartment and it's not

481
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Speaker 1: feeling like a home anymore. I have tried talking to

482
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Speaker 1: her about it, but we just end up fighting. It's

483
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Speaker 1: getting to the point where I hate being home and

484
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Speaker 1: I don't want to move out and leave my mom

485
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Speaker 1: alone because I'm afraid it'll get worse. Any advice as

486
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Speaker 1: to what I should do? So this such an interesting

487
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: UM question and situation because and we've talked about this,

488
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: but I've noticed that, um, there's a lot of us

489
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: with family members who have hoarding tendencies. So, like my

490
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: grandmother definitely is a very organized hoarder, and my grandma

491
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: also cleaned houses um for white people, and like you know,

492
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: she also like treasures, all things that like pictures of

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00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: them and cards and things that remind her of them

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00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: or gifts that they've given her. And I have a

495
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: friend whose grandmother is definitely a hoarder, and I like

496
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: walked into her grandmother's house once and it was like

497
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: very overwhelming, you know, like rooms that you can't enter.

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00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: And these are women who are Mexican women, right, Um,

499
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: and so I feel like what I've learned is you

500
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: kind of have to let them be, Like you can't

501
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: force them to get rid of their things. It's not

502
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: going to work out. They will respond very negatively, like

503
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: they will be very defensive. It really is like kind

504
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: of I don't I can't diagnose things, but it really

505
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: is an issue that require is like a therapist. Um,

506
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: So I would you know, recommend a mediator, a counselor

507
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: a therapist if it's accessible. Um. There is a podcast

508
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: called Latin x Therapy and she actually does an episode

509
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: on hoarding, So I think that that's something that you

510
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: should check out. So that she I'm sure she has

511
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: recommendations on how to approach this conversation. Yeah, because I

512
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Speaker 1: would just say that, like, be careful of taking this

513
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: on as like your personal battle. I know this involves

514
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: your living space and so there has to be like

515
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: a level of compromise there. So conversation is really important.

516
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I don't know where your mom is at, like what

517
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: level she is, you know, with her situation, but like

518
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: definitely have a conversation with her and explain about like

519
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: your space and like you need space, I think, Um,

520
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: but don't let this become a horrible wedge in your

521
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: relationship with your mother, because I just think that it's

522
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: just a really touchy sort of dynamic like a Senora

523
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: and her things. You know, Um, don't mess with the

524
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: senora things. She doesn't like it, you know. So it's

525
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: so tricky. I wish you well. I wish you the best,

526
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: because that's hard, that's really hard. I would approach it

527
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: with like gentleness, lots of gentleness, like ease, and like

528
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: maybe being aware that you might have to just maybe

529
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: take a pause at the conversation and like pause there

530
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: and walk away from it kind of thing, like something

531
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: that you do in like almost increments, you know. I

532
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a compromise to be made,

533
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: like is she willing to invest in a storage unit

534
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to put her she can keep her things, but can

535
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: she put them somewhere else? Can they live somewhere else,

536
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: or even just a little I don't know, if there's

537
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: like a little like cabinet armadrio type like this is

538
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: where you can you can keep all your things, but

539
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: this is where they have to go, you know, just

540
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: ways to share the space. Yeah, good luck girl, luck girl.

541
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's really hard. Okay, thank you for that

542
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: questions So they feel cleansed, right, So moving forward, moving on,

543
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: we are in our multidimensional whole quarter as we wanted

544
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: to talk about something that has been all of our

545
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 1: social media and that really fucking grinds are gears some

546
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: craziness Ice Bay. First of all, um, I don't even

547
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: know where to begin. I don't know where to begin.

548
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: So to recap who is Ice Bay for listeners, dumb bitch.

549
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: There was a photo that was circulating and it was

550
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: of who was it, Mike Pence, Mike Pence and other

551
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: senators and shipp whoever. They were white men who ran

552
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: our country and ruined lives. They were there visiting one

553
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: of the concentration camps where asylum seekers are being held.

554
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: And there was an ICE agent, a Latina who was

555
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: in the photo right and Um, when that photo started circulating,

556
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: people automatically started talking about her like, you know, salute

557
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to our Latina, like Ice agents and that that, and

558
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: then people I felt like she was very attractive, so

559
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: they started to call her Ice. They dubbed her Ice Bay,

560
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: they dubbed her Ice Bay so offensive and it's become

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00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: like a viral thing, and I think that she's probably

562
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna get some press. She's going to get some press,

563
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: She's going to do some interviews probably because it also

564
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: like it behooves the fucking um the government government look

565
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: at this security Ice that's like, oh, there's a Latina

566
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: like that people are proud of and like see yeah,

567
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: latin X folks wanted to exactly you know what I mean,

568
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: the headline rights itself like America falls in love with

569
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: beautiful Latina Ice Agent. Honestly the f so you know,

570
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: we wanted to bring this up during specifically during this

571
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: episode under the multidimensional whole quarter because this is is

572
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: not multidimensional hosts correctly, this is wrong. Wrong, this is wrong.

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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: She's using her powers for evil, y'all, like, and it's

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: not acceptable. It's yeah, like jokes aside, like this is

575
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: some bullshit. Like first of all, the men, all right,

576
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: our weakest link, like men of color are the weakest link.

577
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: They're the weakest link because they're the ones that are

578
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: like propelling her forward, pushing her forward, giving her all

579
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the likes and giving sending her all the thirsty comments

580
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: and like, now, look so bad bitches. I did a

581
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: rant about this on my story as well because this

582
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: also upset me. Bad bitches are supposed to use our

583
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: powers for good, not evil. And when I say our powers,

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00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: I really mean our privilege, like the privilege that meeting

585
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: society's beauty standards offers you. Right, So you can use

586
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: those privileges to like advocate on behalf of people, to

587
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: help redistribute resources to get what you want. But what

588
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: do you want? And is it like for the greater good? Right?

589
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: So I don't appreciate women who like will utilize like

590
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: their identity in that way to cause harm. That's not acceptable.

591
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: You need to utilize your privilege, leverage it for positive things.

592
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: And this is not positive. This is not positive. Yeah,

593
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: these are like actual concentration camps that are being run,

594
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: and Homegirl is about to become the face of it, right,

595
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: like literally she already is becoming the face of it,

596
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of like there are examples of women in history,

597
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: like what's her face? Cook Oceanelle? Didn't cok Ocechanelle? Help?

598
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: She wasn't she like a Nazi sympathizer? Didn't she like

599
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: contribute to Nazi causes? So that's another example. This bad

600
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: bitch extremely influential in the beauty world, in women's beauty right,

601
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: using her powers, her influence, her privilege, her money for evil.

602
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: There's it's a thing. And like women, beautiful women are

603
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: allowed to get away with a lot of things because

604
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: that's the privilege kicking in, shielding one from consequences even

605
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: when you're doing harm. Right, So I spay not down,

606
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: don't like it. And she was wearing terrible acid wash.

607
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: She should have stayed in with the five buttons. We

608
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: usually don't come for women's clothing, but in this situation,

609
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: we're going to go there, right. And the thing is

610
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: like she really doesn't know what she's doing, you know,

611
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Like I feel like she because she has made a

612
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: couple of videos since then, and she like tries to

613
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: appear like very aloof like, oh, I don't know what

614
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm new to this, I'm need to Twitter,

615
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm need to that all this stuff, but like that

616
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: just contributes to like the allert of like, oh see,

617
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: she hasn't even had a Twitter, Like she hasn't been

618
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: tainted by like Twitter, and like all social justice warriors gleam.

619
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: So she's just a regular girl. Literally, Yeah, these are

620
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: the thoughts, these are the comments, and it's just very

621
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: frustrating and infuriating when there are so many you know,

622
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: refugees in these cages or these concentration children, and then

623
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: you see our women of color, are people of color,

624
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: black folks um protesting, you know, trying to like get

625
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: these people out, Holocaust survivors giving all their fucking resources,

626
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, to like dismantle this, and like then you

627
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: have these you know, this woman and all the other

628
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: people and all the other women and all the other

629
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: men and all the other folks that are involved. You know,

630
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: it's just so frustrating. And look, you know that what's

631
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: going on is fucked up when both Japanese and old,

632
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: elderly Japanese internment survivors and Holocaust survivors are coming out

633
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: to say this is fucked up, protesting, shut it down.

634
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: That's all I need to know. You're telling me in

635
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Terming camp and Holocaust survivors are coming, elderly people are

636
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: coming out to tell us this is wrong, it's wrong,

637
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: it's wrong, and shut it down. So yeah, cancel Ice Bay.

638
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Don't give her any cloud y'all, don't get any cloud

639
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I have kind of been like looking at her profile

640
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: here and there every couple of days because I'm just

641
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm so like she's growing in followers, right, this bitch

642
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: has more followers than we do. She does overnight night.

643
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: And I've just been watching it because I think it's

644
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: just a really interesting case study as to what the

645
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: funk is going on in this country, you know, and

646
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: like the folks that are in support and the type

647
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: of people that they are, you know, and like it's

648
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: just wild to me to watch it unfold. It's a

649
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: huge mess. Yeah that Like I'm just like at a

650
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: loss for words, you know, I'm just like, this is

651
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: where the funk we are, Like when we are, it's

652
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: so backwards, like it's all like hell fire and you

653
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: know what, Fox Me Up is still going back to

654
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: the elderly like survivors, right, protesting and stuff. They've been

655
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: dealing with this bullshit forever and it's still happening. Like

656
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: this has already happened. People were alive to like go

657
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: through all this bullshit. I think of like like John

658
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Lewis right, right, yes, he's seen it's he's still dealing

659
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: with this bullshit with racism and oppression, it's been his

660
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: entire life, Like these people have seen this their entire lives,

661
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: and it makes me very sad. It does make me

662
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: really sad. Yeah, because it's just this uphill, uphill battle,

663
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: you know it like stops for no one. White supremacy

664
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: is evil. It's a takeaway speaking of white supremacy. This

665
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: is a good secon. Lots of feelings, So let's get

666
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: into it. Not only were we upset by Ice Bay,

667
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: this is kind of going into like a weird things

668
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: White women did this Week type segment. Um so uh.

669
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: An article was published by none other than The New

670
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: York Times. UM writer Jennifer Miller wrote an article called

671
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: have We Hit Peak? Podcast? And you know what, I

672
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: just noticed it's in the style section. That's weird, Yeah,

673
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: but m fascinating thickens. So um, have we hit peak? Podcast?

674
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: Jennifer Miller July and I saw on Twitter because people

675
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: were already reacting to this, then I read it. I'm

676
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: going to read the first couple of paragraphs to y'all

677
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: because this is what set us off. In Morgan Mandriota

678
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and Lester Lee to freelance writers looking to grow their

679
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: personal brands, decided to start a podcast. They called it

680
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: the Advice Podcast and put about as much energy into

681
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: the show's production as they did the name. After all,

682
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: no one was paying them for this. Yet each week

683
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: the friends, neither of whom had professional experience dispensing advice,

684
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: met in a free room at the local library and

685
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: recorded themselves chatting with an iPhone five. We assumed we'd

686
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: be huge, have affiliate marketing deals and advertisements, miss Mandriota said,

687
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: But six episodes in, when neither Casper Mattresses nor me

688
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Andy's had come knocking, the friends quit. Today. Miss Mandriota says,

689
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the same d I Y spirit that made having a

690
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: podcast alluring is precisely what dooms the project. You can

691
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: talk about the trees outside as much as you want,

692
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: but if you're not going to serve listeners and do

693
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: it in a way that's engaging, your chances of going

694
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: viral are low, she said, calling her show the most

695
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: makeshift podcast with mediocre advice. Now. These are the opening

696
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: paragraphs to Jennifer Miller's article in The New York Times,

697
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: where she's basically talking about how the podcast market is saturated,

698
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: how podcasts. Some statistic that she quotes that only like

699
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: nine of podcast put out new episodes between like May

700
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: and July of this year, So like, there's tons of podcasts,

701
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: but there's not they're not there's not a lot of

702
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: longevity or are there too many? And so she uses

703
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: an example to like prove her point and her argument

704
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: make her argument about the future of podcasting being bleak

705
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: and there's too many and the bubble is bursting. She

706
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: uses as an example of the health of podcasting this

707
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: woman and her friend Lester and their failed podcast that

708
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: they didn't complete after six episodes. These people do not

709
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: have an active podcast, and yet they have a write

710
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: up in The New York Times delving into their podcasting

711
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: work as if it's some indicator of the podcasting landscape.

712
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: When again, these people don't have a podcast. It kisses

713
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: me on it's irresponsible journalist journalism, like this is what

714
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: journalism is at right now? Like that it makes me question,

715
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: like this is what we're this is what we're doing now?

716
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Is this? This is what I have to write to

717
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: get into the New York Times? Right? This is it?

718
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: This is excellence? Is what I can do Because I'm

719
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: not white? This is the standard? Actually some bullshit. So

720
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: because I'm like this doesn't have a podcast? How did

721
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: this author even find out about her? I did some

722
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: search searching on Twitter because I will follow a thread

723
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: for all of it and I will click on all

724
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: the threads that are happening within the thread. So that

725
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: is how I do my Twitter research. Okay, so this one,

726
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: so someone was like like who's Like who did your

727
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: dad know? Is basically what they asked, like who do

728
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: you know? Like how did you get how did you

729
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: get this feature if you don't have an active podcast?

730
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: So she's apparently replied to a question on LinkedIn, but

731
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: it was it was still like there was a link

732
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: like there was someone. Then someone then referred her kind

733
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: of thing. So the question of Lincoln was like did

734
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: you have a podcast? And stop? So that was like

735
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: how this author put out the question and how she

736
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: vetted her her subjects was did you have a podcast?

737
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: And stop? But if you stopped, then how is it

738
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: the future of podcasting? Exactly? Well, I mean the argument

739
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: is that podcasting is going nowhere or it's bleak because

740
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: people just stop it. That's I mean, that's what she's

741
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: getting at, right, and like people will just stop after

742
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: six episodes, So that's like kind of where the future is.

743
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: It's so dumb, though, because is that not true of

744
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: every medium and every idea, every start How many startups

745
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: started up and then stopped. How many people started writing

746
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: a book and then stopped. How many people thought they

747
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: were going to become an actor and then stopped. It's

748
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: the failure to launch is true in every single sector,

749
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: every single sector. Yeah, And you know what really bothers

750
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: me is that the tone of this just really discourages

751
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: folks from entering a medium that is changing, that's evolving,

752
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: that hasn't really been institutionalized yet. So it really bothers

753
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: me that it's really discouraging that it makes it almost

754
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: makes a joke. It's like the butt of the joke

755
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: is like, oh, everyone has a podcast, you know, And

756
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: that really bothers me because podcast saying is can be

757
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: a really accessible tool for folks of color, for folks,

758
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: for low income folks, for folks that are mobilizing that

759
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: our community organizing, you know. So it really bothers me

760
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: that this is the take and this is the angle

761
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: exactly when we know that our hand there are folks

762
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: have are like using this medium or social media or

763
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter or whatever, it may be like this

764
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: kind of grassroots indie y thing, like this is what

765
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: it's used for, and I don't know now that people

766
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: of color are doing it. It's like what bleak. I

767
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: don't know exactly, it's like not. I think it's not

768
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: that the market is saturated. It's that the market is

769
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: too brown. It's too brown and too black. They don't

770
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like it anymore. And here's the thing, like, how are

771
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: you going to say that it's podcasting is dead? We

772
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: posted to our Instagram and to our Twitter. We did

773
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: a threat kind of in response. Then we posted to

774
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: our Instagram to further elaborate. But we do so much

775
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: with this vehicle, Like we do so much and we're

776
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: doing so well. If we can tute our own horn

777
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 1: for a second. I mean, we hosted throughout the city

778
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles eleven separate podcasting workshops through the public library,

779
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: and all of them were extremely well attended. Yeah, we

780
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: had about thirty people at each, Like on the ground

781
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: in real life, people are showing up because they want

782
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: to know and they want to learn and they want

783
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: to start their podcast. Like there is interest in the

784
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: streets in the world, like it's out there. But you've

785
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to talk to people of color to

786
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: find out that story and to know that this is

787
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: going on. Um, you gotta be able to talk to

788
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: indie creators. We throw an event, everybody shows up. We

789
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: throw a party. It's sold out. Like we can mobilize

790
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: people in real life. The read has a show, Jesus

791
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: and Marrow have a show. Now they're on showtime. They

792
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: all started out as podcasters, Like, how are you going

793
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: to tell me? How are you going to tell me

794
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: that the future is bleak? Look at the launching pad right, Well,

795
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: these are also people of color exactly doing the podcast.

796
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: You've gotta be willing to see it's like cognitive dissonance.

797
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: How do you look at the media landscape and be

798
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: tuned in, plugged in in any way and not realize

799
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: that podcasting has launched media platforms for tons of people.

800
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Even fucking Joe Budden, who I can't stand, has found

801
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: huge success with his podcast you know So, and like

802
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: revamped his whole fucking image and like got back out there.

803
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, like it's just tells me a lot

804
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: about how white writers and journalists the internet is segregated.

805
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: The media landscape is segregated there there don't see it

806
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: or they don't recognize it. But it's not that it's

807
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: not happening definitely, And you know it's like folks never

808
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: say that, you know, media, TV, film, screenwriting, novels, books, poetry, whatever,

809
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: is oversaturated. It is. And that's every market is because

810
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: everyone is trying to create something. There are billions of

811
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: people in the world, like you know it, just it

812
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense all the streaming services or those oversaturated.

813
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 1: Should people just stop making shows? Everyone stopped? There's too many?

814
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: No more. No, that's not how this ship works. So anyways,

815
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: if you're a journalist out there, come interview some real

816
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: fucking podcasters, because we put out our episodes every month

817
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: without fail, consistently, we do our events. We're out here sucking, hustling.

818
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any excuses. I don't want

819
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: to see no more fucked up articles about mediocre bitches

820
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: who don't do their work and then complain about it. No. Yeah,

821
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: I saw someone on Twitter to say, like, oh, failing

822
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: upward is also for white women, white men, But I'm like, wow,

823
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: this woman has a full last photo in the New

824
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: York Times for not having a podcast. Um, and here

825
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: we are. What are we doing? What are we doing?

826
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: Are we working too hard? They were working too hard.

827
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: We're working way too hard. That ship bucks me up, girl.

828
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: The workshops, the keynotes, the traveling and having our day jobs.

829
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: We do way too much. We need fucking vacations honestly, damn.

830
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: But we love it, the labor love. We want to

831
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: do this full time. That's also why we hustle so hard,

832
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: like we want to be able to leave the day

833
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: jobs at some point and have longevity in it. Yeah,

834
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: so you know, it is what it is, but we

835
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: don't like it. We don't like it. So anyways, pitch us,

836
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: pitch us to all the journalists. Pitch us, pitch us,

837
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: pitch us at the New York Times, at the l

838
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: A Times. Because I don't know. It's funny too, because

839
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: I see stuff like this gets published. But sometimes when

840
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: we do reach out to journalists, they're like, oh, no,

841
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: will pass. We don't really like um vet journalists, Like

842
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: that's not really something that we do. Like journalists have

843
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: very much approached us, but we know that that's its

844
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: own thing. Like people will have like a pure person

845
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: on their team that like email email, email, email, and

846
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: they reach out and like, eventually something does bite. We

847
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: just don't have that capacity to do that. It's a

848
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of work, um, shout out to people to do Yeah,

849
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just we have been very blessed

850
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: in the sense that when folks have reached out to

851
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: us to write about us, you know, and again they've

852
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: all been women of color. All the journalists that have

853
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: covered us have been women of color, which tells us

854
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: a lot too about Like, if people of color are

855
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: not in the newsroom, then the people of color who

856
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: are creating and who are making art and creating culture

857
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: will not be written about because white people do not

858
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: write about us. Men do not write about us. If

859
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: it was only men of color in newsrooms, our projects,

860
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: our businesses, our initiatives would not be covered. No, they

861
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: still wouldn't be there. They still wouldn't be there. Women

862
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: of color must be in the newsroom, writing covering stories journalism.

863
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Latinos who are doing it. I mean,

864
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: one of my favorite writers and journalists and the first

865
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: editor to publish any of my work, Marjua Estevez. Um incredible, Um,

866
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean Maria Yousa. You know, like there's aman del Cantara. Yeah, um,

867
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: there's Latina, Raquel, Raquel, Marie Las Maria La Stadio. She

868
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: shared this really great story that we all grow about

869
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: how when she was a journalist that she, um, you know,

870
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: told her editors that she wanted to be editor in

871
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: chief of a magazine and like people would laugh at

872
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: her kind of thing. And now she's the editor in

873
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: chief of Latina and online publication. So yeah, you know.

874
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: So Elaine Walter Worth has her book. She was editor

875
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: in chief at teen Vogue. Like, there are women of

876
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: color doing it, but they have to be there or

877
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: else the on the ground, the stories will not be covered.

878
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: That's one of the major takeaways what I've learned through

879
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: this podcasting process for sure. All Right, so moving on,

880
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: we have a word from our sponsors before we go

881
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Speaker 1: into a song break and bring on our guests. This

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883
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Speaker 1: the service that you provide to the community. So before

899
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: we get into our song break, we're going to introduce

900
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: our interview guest. Uh. You may remember her. She had

901
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: a hit song called Gangster that came out in two

902
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. Cat Dahlia is known for her razor sharp

903
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: lyrics and distinct flow. This Cuban American songstress created a

904
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: lane for herself when she popped on the scene a

905
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: few years back with hit singles Gangster and I Think

906
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm in Love, which collectively amassed over two hundred million plays.

907
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: After a two year hiatus from releasing music, where Cats

908
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: spent time redefining her musical purpose, collaborating with other artists,

909
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and creating a new lane for herself. Cat shares her

910
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: latest offering, a bilingual project pulling from her Latin roots

911
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: fused with R and B and pop rhythms. So we're

912
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: gonna bring on Cat for a conversation about her new

913
00:51:48,480 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: music after the song break friends and friends and friends

914
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: and friends back and spend and friends and friends, um

915
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: from from it and ship all right, and we're back

916
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: our guests that we have here in studio at its fascio. Hey, Kat, Hello, Hello,

917
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: what's up? Can you please introduce yourself? Um for our listeners,

918
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: for our look on what is I am? My name's

919
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Cat Dahlia. I'm a singer songwriter from Miami, and uh yeah,

920
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: happy to be here, Happy to be here. Yes, I'm

921
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: so excited that you're going to be chatting with us today. UM.

922
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: Just amazing to have you in the in the studio,

923
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: and especially after I've read that you took some time off,

924
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: you had like a little to your hiatus, so it's

925
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: like really cool to see you creating music again and

926
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: just out here in l A. Yeah, I took a

927
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: little time off after I left the major label situation.

928
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean like some time and I just figure out

929
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do next, like musically, sound wise.

930
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: So I just took a break, lived life, and then

931
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: the last year and a half, I've just been working

932
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: on the music. So hiatus in a way, but more

933
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: just in the cut. Yeah the trenches exactly exactly, and

934
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: people see it as a hiatus, but it's really you're

935
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: just like locked in love it and you you moved

936
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: out to l A recently. I moved out here four

937
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: years ago, okay, so that's been another Yeah, I've been

938
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: here for a minute. Yeah. I love the space though,

939
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: I love where you guys are at shopping after thank you.

940
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: But I do love l A. I like it a

941
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: lot um. I feel like there's a lot of things

942
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: similar to like Miami, that field reminiscence, and then it

943
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: has its whole other flavor to it, which I like.

944
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Hate the traffic, but absolutely right, we all hate the traffic.

945
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: That's the life out of me. And you're wearing your

946
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: Florida necklace right now. Yeah, it's really cute Florida, Bobby. Hey,

947
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: it's super super true day. Thank you and um. We

948
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: were talking before we started recording. We were talking about

949
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: your song that I think is your hit Gangster, right,

950
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: that came out when in two thousand thirteen, I guess,

951
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: so probably two thousands sixteen or yeah, yeah, maybe two

952
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: twelve around there, right, and just kind of reminiscing I

953
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: heard the first I heard of you in your music

954
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: was not out here in l A. But was in

955
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: Massachusetts because I was going to school in Medford outside

956
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: of Boston, and that's where like I was introduced to

957
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: that song. And I immediately was like, this is really different.

958
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: It's kind a spooky. I like your tone. I really

959
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: liked your tone and like your delivery and just kind

960
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: of the whole package was really really cool. So I

961
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: appreciate that spooky that I never heard that before. But yeah,

962
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: I guess it was dark. I mean I was definitely

963
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: doing some dark ish um and yeah, I had like

964
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: that was like the beginnings of like the major label

965
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: stuff and like getting into it. But I love that record.

966
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Still shout out to DJ pop Dog for always spending

967
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: my record out there. He really like supported me hard

968
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: and like blew me up out there. So he's probably

969
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: the reason why you even hurt me. Yeah, absolutely, And

970
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: what I really liked about that song too is there

971
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of focus on like mother's and sacrificing.

972
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: There was like some catholic imagery. Yeah, you know, I

973
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: was very into it. Um. It was definitely some real,

974
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: just like real talk, you know. I feel like at

975
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: that time, especially like what was popping was like Lady

976
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: Gaga and Katy Perry and I don't know, definitely it

977
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: was like a different time in music for sure, and

978
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I remember my headspace. It was very

979
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: much just like, man, I want to make what I like,

980
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about what it feels like.

981
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to hear from a song,

982
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: like what what feels like it speaks to me? I'm

983
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: gonna just write to myself almost in a way. It

984
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: actually first started off as a joke, start off as

985
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: a parody. My older bodies to write parody songs, So

986
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: I was writing a parody too obviously wank stuff, it's right,

987
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: And then as I was writing it, I was like, man,

988
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe this could be something actually like more serious and

989
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: more person So as I was writing it, I kind

990
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: of started morphing it more into like something that became

991
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: it was almost I'm writing, like laughing my head off,

992
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: and then I'm like actually angry and crying or whatever.

993
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: Very cool. I love that because you're you're definitely walking

994
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: through the process of creating art. Right. It starts as

995
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: an idea and you think it's going to look a

996
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: certain way, and then a lot of times life of

997
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: its own something. A lot of times it starts off

998
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: as a fucking joke. Like the best some of the

999
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: best ideas come out of jokes. Like we'll just be

1000
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: like throwing lyrics around and it'll be like, okay, so

1001
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: my Janet, but they're like, damn, that's a fire melody. Okay,

1002
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: hold on, wait, let's put an actual leary to that.

1003
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: And then you know, sometimes a lot of great things

1004
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: come out of just jokey stuff, you know. I think

1005
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: that's especially when you're like, after years of writing and stuff,

1006
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of just fun to play around, you know,

1007
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: with art. I think it's meant to be played with.

1008
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: When did you um so, the transition from or the

1009
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: journey from gangs to time doing good and that creative process,

1010
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: what has that been? Like? Oh my god, I mean

1011
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: so many ups and downs. I mean, She's cheese. That

1012
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: was like what like sixty seven years ago that the

1013
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: song came out, So, I mean that was in the

1014
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: major label system for a good amount of time. I

1015
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: was there for five years and I learned a lot.

1016
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean I was super green when I got in,

1017
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: and you just learned the ins and outs of just

1018
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: the craziness that goes on, and you learn a lot

1019
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: about yourself. Um. It's very like, UM, I don't know,

1020
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: like a lot of discovery happens when you're in that

1021
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of a situation. There's a lot of pressure. You

1022
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: realize how quickly you can lose yourself, how hard it

1023
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: is defined yourself, but how available it is, and who

1024
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: you really are sometimes. UM, I think when I came out,

1025
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: I was like just like relieved because I felt I

1026
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: don't know, you just feel relief. You just feel like

1027
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: you can start just being yourself again without so many

1028
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: voices in your head. You know. It's like imagine like

1029
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: having and it's not even family, but imagine having like

1030
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of or what it felt like to me,

1031
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: probably because my own issues, but it felt like a

1032
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: bunch of parents telling me what to do. And it's

1033
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: like the little kid in me is like, Damn, I

1034
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: want to appease my parents. But I think that's my

1035
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: own issues, probably because you know, I just have weird

1036
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: parent issues. But don't we all. Ye, I can relate

1037
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: to me. So many times we meet people in our

1038
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: lives and like they will unconsciously trigger us and it's like, oh, damn,

1039
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: there's my mom again, because I oh shit, I'm trying

1040
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: to appease this person, because there's my mom again. Oh

1041
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: there's my dad, this older dude than I'm attracted or whatever.

1042
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: It happens. It happens, It happen, happens, it happens for you.

1043
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: But once you start to become aware of your patterns

1044
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: and if you can become like a more just aware

1045
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: I feel like aware woman where human being and just

1046
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: kind of a little by little as the years go on,

1047
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: more clear of what it is that I truly want. Yeah, yeah,

1048
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to git hard about that. The womanhood too.

1049
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about womanhood and making music

1050
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: and being the infantry. Yeah. And because I feel like, um,

1051
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe when you were in it with the major label

1052
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: that was not really the meat to movement had not

1053
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: necessarily hit right, So were you experienced like did you

1054
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: see things here? Things like tell us about the landscape

1055
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: pre me too. It's always it was always living breathing.

1056
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: Of course in the in music for sure a big

1057
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: time to living and breathing. And I think in so

1058
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: many industries it's living and breathing, and I think unconsciously,

1059
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: like especially just being like a young girl, a young Latin,

1060
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: a girl, a young like artist, a girl that happens

1061
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: to be have my certain you know, there's a history,

1062
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: there's always like a backstory. For me, it's almost like

1063
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of women we felt like

1064
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: it was normal and acceptable or we we just normalized it, right,

1065
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: and we dum. We were just like, ah, you know,

1066
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: it is what it is when we throw our hands up.

1067
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: But it's so crazy that it took this entire movement

1068
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: and thankfully a lot of people speaking up for I

1069
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: think even a lot of us to just wake up

1070
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, yeah, that's actually super locked up, right,

1071
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Why are we accepting this and why are why do

1072
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: we think it's okay as much as the guys do. Yeah,

1073
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I think exactly what you said about it being normal,

1074
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 1: Like the predatory behavior is so normalized that we don't

1075
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: even see it as being predatorial. It's like, oh, yeah,

1076
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: he's you know, just doing that because that's what men

1077
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: do exactly. I mean, it really is crazy. I mean,

1078
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: like I think, yeah, for the history of women and

1079
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: just the things that we've gone through over the centuries,

1080
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: I think it is part of it's like in our

1081
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: DNA to just kind of be suppressed and oppressed unfortunately

1082
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: sexually and just in so many aspects. And I mean,

1083
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: of course, like in the last couple hundred years, just

1084
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: trying to come up in industries as women and trying

1085
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: to be these power players and trying to be bosses.

1086
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: It's like a whole new level of it's a whole

1087
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: other playing field that we're dealing with. But thankfully, like

1088
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I said, there is a metube movement and people are

1089
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: speaking up and and we keep having the conversations because

1090
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: we don't want to forget again. Absolutely yeah. But yeah, music,

1091
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, of course music inde is full of freaking.

1092
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: But I will say, dude, since since like the movement,

1093
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: so many dudes and it's really annoying, but so many

1094
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: dudes like but at the end of the day, I'm

1095
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: grateful that they say that they'll be like, oh yeah,

1096
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't want to be me too,

1097
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: So you know I'm gonna and I'm like, you know,

1098
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: I hate that they minimize it because I don't want

1099
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: to be me too. So let me just chill on

1100
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: what I say. You know, it's like they minimize it.

1101
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: But you know, like you know what, actually, yes, go

1102
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: check yourself. I don't know what you were, would say,

1103
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, I want them to be afraid. Afraid

1104
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: that like the men that now they say like, oh,

1105
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: like I can't even put my arm around someone in

1106
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: and maybe I didn't want you to put you over

1107
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: around me. Don't put your little hand on my hand

1108
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: back right, your creepy little hand on your photos and

1109
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: I get official touching their backs. Yeah, and I'm like

1110
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: an official in l A did that to us. I'm

1111
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: come from in front of a lot of people in

1112
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: a picture for a period of time. It's crazy, But

1113
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: I will say that, I mean I have definitely I've been,

1114
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, like someone that has played the game, because

1115
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: again that's the playing field. You know, at the end

1116
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: of the day, you need to at the time, even

1117
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: before the meto thing. Yeah, you need to like play

1118
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: the game. In other words, you need to flare. You

1119
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: need to act like you might smash, but you're not

1120
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: really going to, you have no intentions of. But you

1121
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: have to act like he has a chance, he might

1122
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: have a chance, because if not, they won't They're not

1123
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: going to check for you, and it's messed up. It

1124
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: really is messed up. Some of these dudes that are

1125
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: big power players, they won't check for you unless you

1126
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: just like stroke their ego and so crazy. But again,

1127
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: like it takes the movies, it takes these conversations to

1128
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: be able to be like wow, yeah, why did I

1129
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: feel like I had to do that? Yeah? What? Well?

1130
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: Also because a lot of the gatekeepers are men with

1131
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: hard on I'm being so money it's important, it's about it,

1132
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: bring it, bring it, of it, and they have the

1133
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: money and they control everything career, they control everything. Yeah. Well,

1134
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think now hear in your hearing

1135
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: all of your thoughts now, Like I can definitely feel

1136
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: the energy behind I'm doing good and just like, don't

1137
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: come and try to funk up my ship when I've

1138
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 1: been working so hard on this, but I'm doing good.

1139
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: Your nails look so I noticed them earlier too, and like,

1140
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: I come in sob but my birthdays in a week,

1141
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: so I'm waiting. Yes, yes, I'm like waiting a few

1142
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: more days, and I don't want to get them. You

1143
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: got to be strategic about the time timing and the calendar.

1144
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't want too much grow it on my birthdays.

1145
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: What Okay, I'm interested to know difference in male culture

1146
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: and such in Miami versus l A because we leave

1147
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: l A and people see our nails and they go, oh,

1148
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: you're so l A. But what's the nail situation in mind?

1149
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I feel like it's relatively

1150
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: some actually no, yeah, maybe not. Y'all are definitely have

1151
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 1: more color and there's like a little more loudness maybe

1152
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: and just like brightness. But I feel like Miami's that

1153
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: way too, but not really. Miami is a little more

1154
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: toned down. Like girls like to do the neutrals and

1155
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: they like I don't know, it's just but I don't know.

1156
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: There's girls that that do like the louder and more

1157
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: colorful nails too, But I will say I like both.

1158
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Some some days I'm feeling like a super natural color

1159
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: like I'll do like a hell of longer crylic, but

1160
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll do it like literally a nail color, or sometimes

1161
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: I'll do like bright ret I just I do every

1162
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: depends on the mood. Depends on the mood. I feel

1163
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, But I will say I guess

1164
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: Cuban culture, like Miami culture, girls are a little more

1165
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to say safe, but a little more safe.

1166
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: I think it'd be conservative, maybe concerned. I don't know

1167
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: the right word. I think I think our proximity to Hollywood,

1168
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: like l A is l A and like there's some

1169
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: weird ship here, but then it trickles down into like

1170
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: our cool. Yeah. I think that we really are one

1171
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: of those like fashion locales. Yeah, I agree. People people

1172
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: take risks with their people take big time, more so

1173
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: than in Miami. I will say, like when I go out,

1174
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: I love Miami and I love my city and that's

1175
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: where I'm going to go and probably retire. But definitely

1176
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: the fashion is very subparts not to cutting edge down

1177
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: there you go to like, I don't know, it's just

1178
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: not like here interesting. You have so much more cool

1179
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: stuff to look at here. I love this, This is

1180
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: really great. Look at this cultural exchange. Yeah, Like even

1181
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: the store store is like raw, I will say, in Miami,

1182
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: like it's finally it's getting to a point, like with

1183
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: the Windwood areas and like downtown, like things are becoming

1184
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: cooler in the art scene is growing. But it's almost

1185
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: like we're like a baby version, like a baby Miami

1186
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: tropical like Latin version of l A and somewhat growing.

1187
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: But yeah we are. We're also really into like wearing

1188
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: our culture here and like there's a lot of just

1189
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: like local artists who have brands and create the graphic

1190
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: t s and the clothes and the products so you

1191
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: can like whear where you're lefting me that. It's like,

1192
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, We're very flamboyant in that way. And

1193
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: I think it's also just about looks. Like it's about looks.

1194
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: It's it's depending on the circles you run in. But

1195
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's less allowed about brands and

1196
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: it's more just about dope things and dope combinations, cool pieces,

1197
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: putting the style you know for pieces. Yeah, Miami is

1198
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: a little bit still on that like brand shit. It's

1199
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: just like labels, labels. Where do you like to shop?

1200
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: Good question? I mean I do I live like in

1201
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I live like in Hollywood area,

1202
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: so I always go to Melrose for the most part,

1203
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: and I just hit up all those random little stores

1204
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: I find like weird ship that I like. But then

1205
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: also when I'm looking for quick stuff Urban, I'm going

1206
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: to Urban. You're gonna get all your basics there. Yeah, yeah,

1207
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: I find my basics. Oh my. So what's next? What's

1208
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: next for Cat Dahlia? What's next for me? I have

1209
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: a new single coming out actually August ninth, um, and

1210
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot the video for it, or we already

1211
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: shot the video for you. I've actually been editing it

1212
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks and so that's going

1213
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: to come out August ninth. And then I have like

1214
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,879
Speaker 1: a couple of festivals coming up. I'm doing Austin City Limits,

1215
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm doing those cells in the Midwest. So if y'all are,

1216
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, happen to be there, come check me

1217
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: out there and yeah, and where can folks fall allow

1218
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: you and keep up with you can follow me at

1219
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: Cat Dahlia on my Instagram same as Twitter, on my

1220
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: YouTube page. Definitely subscribe and uh yeah, come check me

1221
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: on Melrose Shopping absolutely shopping trip. All right, well, thank

1222
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: you so much for being here with us. Thank you.

1223
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: I really love catching up with you. Um, it's really

1224
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: exciting to see you making music and I love what

1225
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: you're putting out. Thank you. I'm excited for your next single.

1226
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you guys. I love these spots cool.

1227
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro, and as always, remember to follow us

1228
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: on Instagram. At Look, I thought I underscore radio. Visit

1229
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: our website. Look, I thought a radio dot com hit

1230
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: the Venmo. Look I thought a dash radio. Um, yeah, alright,

1231
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: so we will catch you next time. Look at what

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Speaker 1: is