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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm David Zierr. You're watching Breaking Point on Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice News. Really historic week with the deal in Israel.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if that can hold together. Hamas killing Palestinians

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Speaker 1: complicated things going on out there. But I got a

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Speaker 1: super show today. And by the way, it was Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk's birthday, a moving ceremony at the White House the

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Speaker 1: the same day as Charlie Kirk's birthday. Sharing his birthday

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Speaker 1: and his birth year really really very very sad, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just a terrible situation, and people are

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Speaker 1: so callous about it. I get in conversations all over

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Speaker 1: the place and people are callous. You know, They're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you had really strong opinions and whatever, like he deserved it,

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Speaker 1: blowing their doors off in the civil dialogue and the discussion.

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Speaker 1: But I get listen, I have a great guest with

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Speaker 1: us right now. He's running for the fourth congressional district

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Speaker 1: and a primary against Thomas Massey next year. He's a

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Speaker 1: retired US Army and Coastguard veteran retired Dennis Jackson. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you, sir, Hi Dennis Man. You

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Speaker 1: had a really funny video. I couldn't pull it up

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Speaker 1: for the show, but you had an AI video, very funny.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about your background.

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Speaker 2: I'm retired Army. I'm a tired combat vet. Primary in

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Speaker 2: my life is Jesus Christ. He runs my life first

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Speaker 2: and foremost and everything I do. I have a thirty

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Speaker 2: five year marriage to my beautiful wild We met on

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Speaker 2: active duty in the Coast Guard in nineteen ninety one,

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Speaker 2: and it's my.

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Speaker 1: Life is great.

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Speaker 2: I love my life I have. I am a former

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Speaker 2: police officer, also a former federal police officer before I retired,

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Speaker 2: and after nine to eleven I went back into the

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Speaker 2: Army and to go to Iraq, and I've been retired since.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I work for I'm a manager for Global

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Speaker 2: SQ and we are a contractor through Toyota here, which

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Speaker 2: is the largest North American automotive plant here in Georgetown, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: So okay, that's really that's really great. It's really wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So why the hell do you want to get into politics?

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Speaker 1: It's vicious. It's vicious. There's going to be a real

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Speaker 1: contentious primary in Kentucky next year. It appears that way.

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Speaker 1: Thus far, so many issues right Kentucky. I was in

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Speaker 1: Louisville with Real America's voice on the ground. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe the crime. Just like every blue city across America

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Speaker 1: that I've been to, the crime is always three times

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Speaker 1: the rest of the state. Same for Louisville.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I know that's not your district, but it's important because

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Speaker 1: you're law enforcement, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that they're fighting right now the

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Speaker 2: police department, I would have to say, is they're three

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Speaker 2: hundred officers short right now.

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Speaker 1: In that department.

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Speaker 2: They have over a little over one thousand, not quite

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Speaker 2: eleven hundred yet, but they're at three hundred officers shortage.

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Speaker 2: But they also lose officers to go to other departments.

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Speaker 2: They have better benefits, better pay, better incentives, and that

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Speaker 2: really hurts the department. When you start losing seasoned officers.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take They said that it takes about

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty recruits a year just to get

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Speaker 2: up to that three hundred. So now you're looking at

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Speaker 2: you're looking at two years, But then from there, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how much farther is it going to be with you

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Speaker 2: losing those officers too, I mean that you can't replace

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Speaker 1: Is it systemic? Is it the bail reform type agenda?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Why can't they do it?

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why, I think, is money there

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Speaker 2: and the incentives there? There's not there. Why work that

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Speaker 2: load that you're doing as a police officer when you

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Speaker 2: these cops all have families.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like I have city Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: It's a never ending battle, really, but I think when

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Speaker 2: your community support your law enforcement, that's when crime goes

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Speaker 2: down and money goes back into the departments like it should.

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking officers on the street. I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. Tell us about your farmers.

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Speaker 1: You know, soybean farmers facing some challenges, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of farmers around the country aren't just soybean farmers. They

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Speaker 1: grow other crops. We're waiting for this China thing to

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Speaker 1: play out. Tell us about how large the farming community

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Speaker 2: In Kentucky soybeans alone is one point four billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year for just soybeans in Kentucky alone. And then

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Speaker 2: you're talking about our beef industry. Here, our beef industry,

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Speaker 2: we're a little bit I mean, we're a little bit

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Speaker 2: around fourteenth in the nation on beef. But we're losing

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Speaker 2: beef farmers across the US every day. It seems like.

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Speaker 2: I had a farmer come to me yesterday. He did

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Speaker 2: pick up with this thing with China and stuff, he's

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Speaker 2: going to lose his farm next year. And he's just

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Speaker 2: one across the state that I met yesterday. And it

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Speaker 2: was just one person out of twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. I know that the farmers always

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Speaker 1: have it tough. The rugged individuals built.

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Speaker 2: This, and the rise of the rise of seed and

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Speaker 2: the rise of fertilizer and equipment, the farmers are the

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Speaker 2: one that's carrying that load. It's not the meat packers,

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Speaker 2: and it's not the consumer. It's the farmers that's putting

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Speaker 2: that money right back into it, and their prices are

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Speaker 1: It, and the diemonium phosphate and fertilizes doubled and tripled

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Speaker 1: during the Biden years. Yes, and you got all the

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Speaker 1: legacy costs. Right, You're coming to the near end of

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Speaker 1: the farming season. You still got to carry farm through

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Speaker 1: the winter, right and if you didn't do that extra

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Speaker 1: soybean farming or whatever else you had to do, that

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Speaker 1: could hurt, right, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to grite, but you know we've

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Speaker 2: got a governor now though with the soybean thing going on.

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Speaker 2: We got a governor that's in Europe right now, and

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Speaker 2: no one's saying anything about this. You know, we want

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Speaker 2: Trump to meet with China, and if no one's going

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Speaker 2: to step up to meet with China, I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: I'll go with this envoy to do it. I'll represent Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: But it just seems like no one's taking that mantle

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Speaker 2: when they know that the farmer this is a major

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Speaker 1: Is the tariff money going to go to help the farmers.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping, I'm really hoping. But that's something that we

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Speaker 2: and with me in Congress. This is something that's I'm

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Speaker 2: taking this fight head on. You have a small farm.

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Speaker 1: I'm right, you have a farm, you said, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I do. I have a small farm.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty five acres, but my neighbor's got four hundred

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Speaker 2: and the money that I make every year, we put

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Speaker 2: it right back into it. I have a friend that's

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Speaker 2: down the road. They just sold all their cows and

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Speaker 2: they can't get They're not going to get any more

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Speaker 2: new cows. Number one, the insurance company's raising all their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like the insurance companies are at the heart

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Speaker 1: of a lot of our problems. Yes, sir, Home owns

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Speaker 1: insurance and the likes why are you better than Thomas Massey?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm going to fight for this. All I see

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Speaker 2: is Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, you know, or he's known as

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Speaker 2: mister No in Washington.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: My thing is, if it's a no, then I want

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Speaker 2: to know why it's a no. What can we do

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Speaker 2: to make this better? Or make it a yes, not

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Speaker 2: just putting no on everything. I need my constituents to

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Speaker 2: tell me what they want me to do, and not

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Speaker 2: just know if you want me to make it a yes.

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Speaker 2: What do we need to go and do? This is

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Speaker 2: why I need to go to the Speaker of the

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Speaker 2: House and do and work across the aisles. As a

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Speaker 2: combat vet, I'm gonna tell you I was nothing but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I want to thank you for your

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Speaker 1: service for sure. You know, the Republicans could pick up

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Speaker 1: as many as thirteen districts through redistricting alone next year,

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Speaker 1: but Dums is still favored to flip it. You know,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you the final word. We have about a minute and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think we'll take it. But we have to

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Speaker 2: get out. We have to be proactive as Republicans, and

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Speaker 2: some of the worst voters in the nation are Christian voters.

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Speaker 2: We have to get out and vote. You have to

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Speaker 2: things that are affecting your families and everything. You have

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Speaker 2: to call your congressman, you have to beat the door.

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Speaker 2: You have to tell them what's going on or there

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Speaker 2: has to be a change and that's I'm that change

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Speaker 2: that needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us where our viewers can follow you and

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Speaker 1: see what you're up to. And you gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to put up that AI video more. That

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Speaker 1: was great.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me at Dennis Jackson for Congress

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 1: Just follow me.

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Speaker 2: I'm on x I'm on Facebook, I'm on Ghetter, I'm

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Speaker 2: on a lot of different platforms. Just follow me. You

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Speaker 2: my texts. Email me. I answer people all the time,

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Speaker 2: and it's just the fact that I'll answer you at

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Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning, and I'll shake your hand.

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Speaker 2: If I see you in person, come and talk to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm wide open and I'll tell you what I think.

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Speaker 2: And my love for Kentucky in this nation, I can't

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Speaker 2: say enough. You know, I love my flag, I love

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Speaker 2: my country, and I still cry when the national anthem

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Speaker 2: is played.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you really care. I want to appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on and really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Dennis Jackson running in the primary for

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Speaker 1: the fourth congressional district in Kentucky, and we'll have you back.

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Speaker 1: So many issues. I'd like to talk more about the farmers.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for going on to definitely definitely.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: You have a great wait. Yes you too, Dennis. So

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Speaker 1: everybody you know, there's a lot of contested races, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of laws, suits, redistricting. I'm really diving into

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Speaker 1: these congressional races around the country. So in the next

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Speaker 1: few shows, I'll be bringing you some updates on what

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Speaker 1: the chances are of the house staying red. I'm David Zero.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and supporting with the Studios.

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Speaker 3: So it's real simple. I worked in Hollywood for seventeen

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Speaker 3: Well, it definitely brought me closer to my faith because

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Speaker 3: So we currently for this year as well as twenty six,

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Speaker 1: Tell us about Raising Reynolds. It's one of your shows, right, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So tell us about you know, things have moved

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Speaker 3: While we love traditional American values, it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody will be right back with more. I

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Speaker 1: got great stuff, Kennebramo. It's the breakdown, the whole thing

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Speaker 1: going on in the Middle East, still threats out there.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Welcome back. You are watching Breaking Point

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Speaker 1: on Real America's Voice News. You know you can't turn

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Speaker 1: they were describing how this began and for the audience who,

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Speaker 1: first to get this all together. And you know, these

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Speaker 1: crs that Democrats have voted for in the past. This

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Speaker 1: is all a setup. This is all crazy. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I was watching Mamdannie, who's probably going to

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Speaker 1: be the next mayor of New York talk about this

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Speaker 1: incredible killer. There's an animal in New York City who

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Speaker 1: stabbed somebody, who got out a few hours later, and

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Speaker 1: then stabbed somebody again, I think maybe the next day,

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Speaker 1: if not the same day. And they asked him, you know,

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Speaker 1: really doesn't believe in the police. And his answer was

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Speaker 1: so heinous. Oh, we're going to have like these intervention

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Speaker 1: programs for mental health and all this gobbly book instead

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Speaker 1: of like sending the guy to like on an ice barge,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the Arctic Circle or something. You know,

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Speaker 1: this guy should have never been out on the streets

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Speaker 1: of New York And thousands of families have suffered, and

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Speaker 1: sixty one New Yorkers have been assaulted in the streets

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Speaker 1: in New York. So far this year between felony misdemeanor assaults,

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Speaker 1: rape is up nineteen percent New York City. And this

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Speaker 1: guy is only going to compound it because he's going

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Speaker 1: to double down. And I'm just waiting for the next

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Speaker 1: mural he's going to paint in front of Trump Tower

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Speaker 1: when he's the mayor. Don't trust as Ouran Mamdani. That's

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Speaker 1: all I got to say. But I want to bring

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Speaker 1: on our next guest, Kenn Abramowitz. He's a threat analyst

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Speaker 1: and author of the Multi Front War. Ken. I always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your insight. Thank you for joining us. Pleasure to

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Speaker 1: be with you as always. Yes, you know you really

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Speaker 1: got to handle on things you always have and you

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Speaker 1: know you're one of my favorites out there for really

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Speaker 1: putting assessing what's going on out there in the world.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about the deal Phase one that was

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Speaker 1: put into effect the other day and then two days

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Speaker 1: later Hamas is shooting Palestinians in the street in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, everything that's going on is predictable. When we people

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Speaker 6: in the West, like America, Israel sign deals with people

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Speaker 6: from the Middle East, we think we're held by that contract,

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Speaker 6: but the bad guys don't think they're held by the contract.

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Speaker 6: So as soon the only thing that they delivered was

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Speaker 6: the twenty healthy not healthy. But let's say the twenty

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Speaker 6: living hostages. Now Israel and America are begging for the

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Speaker 6: twenty eight deceased hostages that they were supposed to deliver.

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Speaker 6: Now they're slow walking them, and they're purposely slow walking

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Speaker 6: them because they don't want to go to Phase two.

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Speaker 6: In Phase two, they're supposed to be disarmed and leave deported. Well,

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Speaker 6: they have no intentions of being disarmed and they have

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Speaker 6: no intention of being deported. So now they're showing their

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Speaker 6: typical colors. They're killing any opposition they have in Gaza.

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Speaker 6: So finally there is a genocide in Gaza. But Hamas

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Speaker 6: is leading the genocide, just as they did on October

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Speaker 6: seventh against Israel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if they would have gave the hostages back

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Speaker 1: two years ago, Israel never would have went into Gaza.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I want to talk about the tunnel

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Speaker 1: systems because they have not been destroyed by the Israeli

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Speaker 1: forces the way they wanted to.

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Speaker 6: Right, Well, I hear different numbers. But let's say that

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Speaker 6: Israel destroyed half of the tunnel system. And I'm told

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Speaker 6: that the tunnel system is similar to the London Subway

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Speaker 6: or perhaps even the New York Subway. So we're talking

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Speaker 6: about huge tunnel systems here, and let's say Israel destroyed

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Speaker 6: half of it, so someone has to destroy the other half,

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Speaker 6: you would think, And that was also left vague as

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Speaker 6: to who had the responsibility for destroying the tunnels. It's

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Speaker 6: supposed to be some international peacekeeping organization. No one's ever

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Speaker 6: met an international peacekeeping.

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Speaker 1: Organization troops on the ground. Well, it's with all of

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Speaker 1: the above.

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Speaker 6: It could be Egypt, could be Turkeyari, Katar, study Arabia,

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Speaker 6: could be the Emirates. The only one I trust is

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Speaker 6: the Israel Defense forces. I mean, I trust America, but

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Speaker 6: America is not going to send It's the young men,

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Speaker 6: nineteen year old kids from Kansas looking for tunnels in Gaza.

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Speaker 6: So to me, the logical one to fix the mess

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Speaker 6: is Israel. But in this deal, it's all the Arab

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Speaker 6: countries are supposed to fix the mess.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this ever could have happened without the

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Speaker 1: Abraham Accords under the first Trump administration.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Abraham Accords helps facilitate this because Israel has

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Speaker 6: some trust for the Emirates, has no trust for Star,

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Speaker 6: has no trust for Turkey, even though Israel has relations

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Speaker 6: with Turkey, yeah, and has some trust for Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 6: has almost no trust for Egypt. So yeah, So the

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Speaker 6: Abraham McCord's facilitated in the sense that it made Israel

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Speaker 6: feel comfortable with at least some of the parties to

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Speaker 6: this deal.

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Speaker 1: What about Turkey's ambitions in the theater, also going all

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Speaker 1: the way to Iran and you know, dealing with Salafis

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Speaker 1: and other groups. What's Turkey's endgame and want to restore

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Speaker 1: the caliphe. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, everyone has nefarious instincts and desires. So the reason

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Speaker 6: why all the Moslim countries signed on to the deal

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Speaker 6: is they all signed on for different reasons. Egypt signed

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Speaker 6: on because they want to take over gods Up, Turkey

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Speaker 6: signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Qatar

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Speaker 6: signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Suddi Arabian,

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Speaker 6: the Emirates signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: by the way, nine hundred Israeli soldiers died to take

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Speaker 6: over Gaza. Twelve hundred were killed with the Kamans genocide

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Speaker 6: on October seventh, and the deal says they just give

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Speaker 6: it to these Arab countries for free. So I'm not

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Speaker 6: very happy about the second part of the deal, except

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Speaker 6: the fact that President Trump says, I'm in charge of

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Speaker 6: face two, so I'm like the chairman of the board,

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Speaker 6: and I'll make sure that Fase two works out. So basically,

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Speaker 6: everyone trusted Trump, even though they don't trust each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I get that, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: he'll be watching that closely and if anybody pulls anything,

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Speaker 1: and if there's a large scale attack of any kind,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure all off right ken.

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Speaker 6: Well, my guests, given what President Jump said today that

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Speaker 6: I'm serious, I'm not joking. I'm putting worth it as well.

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Speaker 6: I'm not joking around. I want Comas the Gaza militarized.

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Speaker 6: I want Kamas to lay down their weapons.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Well, someone's got to enforce that, and I don't see

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Speaker 6: American soldiers boots on the ground enforcing it, but Israel

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Speaker 6: knows how to do it. And I hope and guests

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Speaker 6: that in about two to four weeks, President Trump will

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Speaker 6: run out of patients, will come as and authorize Israel

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Speaker 6: to clink, clean up Kamas, all right and eliminate this

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Speaker 6: death cult once and for all.

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Speaker 1: Can we have about twenty seconds? Where can people follow you?

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Speaker 6: Saved Thewest dot com is my website. I write an

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Speaker 1: All right, Ken, Always great to see you. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all your incredible insights. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Pleasure to be with you anytime.

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Speaker 7: and then every month thereafter you get to shop all

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Speaker 7: by yourself. And remember this is a patriot mission and

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Speaker 7: we're so grateful that we get to build America.

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Speaker 1: All right, Maria Lynn, I'd love to see you and

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Speaker 1: go to the bottom of the screen there, switch to

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Speaker 1: USA dot com and get it today. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back with more Breaking Point on Real

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Speaker 8: America's Voice News.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Breaking Point of David Zier. I will

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Speaker 1: be breaking down congressional races across the country. I've got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good handle on what's going on out there,

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Speaker 1: the different lawsuits out there, you know, litigation judges intervening redistricting, Utah, Illinois, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: situation in Florida, all over the place, Oregon, you name it.

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Speaker 1: And it looks like the Democrats are ahead right now.

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Speaker 1: It's really early though, a lot can change, but the

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Speaker 1: Republicans have a chance to pick up like thirteen seats.

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Speaker 1: But you know right now it's leaning the other way,

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Speaker 1: so they got to get cracking very quickly. I want

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Speaker 1: to bring on our next guest. He's the editor of

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Speaker 1: Real Clear Markets and the author of The Deficit Delusion,

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Speaker 1: Why Everything Left Right and Supply Side tells you about

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Speaker 1: the national debt is wrong. John Tamney, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey David, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm really looking forward to talking to you about

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Here's so many topics. I want to

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Speaker 1: start with the markets. Gold at like almost forty two

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars the other day, you know, oil dropping, but

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Speaker 1: the dow it's pretty high. What's your forecast for what's

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Speaker 1: going on here?

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Speaker 4: The gold part scares me. Let's never forget that gold

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Speaker 4: is a known It's known as wealth the world over,

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Speaker 4: and so when you buy it, you're not discovering anything

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Speaker 4: you knew it's already there. Gold doesn't so much go

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Speaker 4: up as the value of the dollar in which it's

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Speaker 4: measured goes down. And so to me, this is a

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Speaker 4: dangerous signal that signals less investment flowing into new ideas,

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Speaker 4: OX and bonds, representing the creation of future wealth and

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Speaker 4: instead people essentially protecting their wealth in a coffee can.

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Speaker 4: A coffee can that goes up in value if the

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Speaker 4: value of the dollar declines. And so to the extent

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Speaker 4: that I know people close to President Trump or near

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Speaker 4: the administration, I always tell him no president has ever

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Speaker 4: succeeded in the way he should with a declining dollar.

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Speaker 4: It SAPs the very investment that drives economic growth.

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Speaker 1: Right, But people are buying gold because they feel safer

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Speaker 1: to be prepared, right, And it could go up. It

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Speaker 1: could go up to forty five hundred five thousand, right,

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Speaker 1: it could keep going up. It could.

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Speaker 4: But what a dangerous signal, because if you buy gold again,

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Speaker 4: you're just buying a protection, wealth protection. If you buy stocks,

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Speaker 4: if you invest in someone you are creating, you are

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Speaker 4: buying shares in the creation of new wealth. And so

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Speaker 4: if you look throughout the you know, we until nineteen

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Speaker 4: seventy one, the dollar was defined in terms of a

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Speaker 4: fixed amount of gold, and so this was never a problem.

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Speaker 4: But gold skyrocketed in the nineteen seventies. It's no surprise

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Speaker 4: that was a slow growth a decade for economic growth.

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Speaker 4: It's skyrocketed in the two thousands and Similarly, we had

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Speaker 4: a huge decline in IPOs and stock market vitality. This

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Speaker 4: is a dangerous This is a dangerous direction to be

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Speaker 4: going when when confidence in the dollar is declining, that's

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Speaker 4: bad not just for the US, but it's bad for

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Speaker 4: the world because the dollar is the world's currency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think people should have a diversified portfolio too.

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Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying here fed printing money, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, tell us what's going on out there in

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Speaker 1: the marketplace. I'm a builder from New York, commercial broker

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Speaker 1: for thirty eight years. You know, I see a lot

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Speaker 1: of people struggling in business, subcontractors. Building costs are forty

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Speaker 1: percent tyres are temporarily hurting a lot of guys in building,

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Speaker 1: but I think that'll adjust at some point. What's your outlook?

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Speaker 4: Well, you bring up a crucial point about this and

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Speaker 4: about the importance of a strong, stable dollar. What goes

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Speaker 4: into the creation of a building is remarkable. You know

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Speaker 4: this much better than I do. But one of the

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Speaker 4: books I wrote featured the people who build tall buildings

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Speaker 4: and the enormous amount of global know how and global

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Speaker 4: inputs that go into it. Well, so if we're devaluing

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Speaker 4: the dollar, We're raising the cost of all sorts of

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Speaker 4: global inputs that go into the creation of a building,

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Speaker 4: and so it makes all of this more expensive. It

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Speaker 4: raises the cost, and so I can't say I'm totally

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Speaker 4: surprised by what you're reporting. If we had a stronger

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Speaker 4: and more certain dollar, it strikes me that the cost

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Speaker 4: of building the future would be quite a bit lower.

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Speaker 1: Now, borrowing money at six and seven percent for our

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Speaker 1: business doesn't work. If they drop another hundred basis points,

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Speaker 1: you know, within a few months by the spring, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's enough personally. But if they do, do

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Speaker 1: you think that and all the manufacturing that Trump has

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Speaker 1: going on, people recommitting back to America, other companies expanding,

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Speaker 1: do you think between the manufacturing, say boom, the energy

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Speaker 1: type boom in all categories, do you think that's going

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Speaker 1: to help? I think the economy is going to take

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Speaker 1: off next spring. What do you think?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think is what about the US economy is that

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Speaker 4: it's always growing. All we know in the US is progress.

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Speaker 4: Even the nineteen thirties, if you look back to it

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Speaker 4: was a very productive decade. For any other country, it

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Speaker 4: would have been viewed as a boom. America is populated

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Speaker 4: by the most innovative, ambitious, and enterprising people on Earth,

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Speaker 4: and you're going to get a lot of growth there where.

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Speaker 4: I'm skeptical that the FED fiddling around with the rates

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Speaker 4: is going to change anything. Is ultimately interest rates are

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Speaker 4: set in the marketplace, and that's what we want. If

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Speaker 4: central planning worked, we'd go back to the twentieth century.

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Speaker 4: But we know it was an abject failure, and so

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't surprise me if the FED continued to reduce

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Speaker 4: rates but actual market rates stayed high, stayed where they are,

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Speaker 4: or went higher to reflect uncertainty, including uncertainty about the dollary.

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Speaker 4: You just can't trample on the message of the market.

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Speaker 4: The market's going to speak no matter what.

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Speaker 1: Right. So there's three schools basically right, the left claims

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Speaker 1: you tax people more, which I don't think is the answer,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the top ten percent pay like ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of the taxes as it is. And people on

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Speaker 1: the right, you know, want spending cuts increase tax revenue

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Speaker 1: to the treasury. And then this supply siders right, tell

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Speaker 1: us you know what's the ultimate combination of any of

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Speaker 1: those to make the economy.

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Speaker 4: Hum, I think you hit on the most crucial point

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Speaker 4: that I think left and right miss, including supply siders.

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Speaker 4: The rich drive all growth, and as you point out,

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Speaker 4: they pay the vast majority, they account for the vast

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Speaker 4: majority of federal revenues. If you give me a tax cut,

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Speaker 4: I'm not a rich man, and so if you give

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Speaker 4: me a tax cut, I want it, but I've got

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Speaker 4: bills to pay. If you give Jeff Bezos a tax

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Speaker 4: cutter Steven Schwarzman, or Donald Trump a tax cut, they've

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Speaker 4: already got all the houses they want, they've got the planes.

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Speaker 4: All they can do with money not taken from them

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Speaker 4: by government is invested. Investment is what drives economic growth.

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Speaker 4: And I wish the Republicans would for once stick to

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Speaker 4: this message. The media say about them every time, no

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Speaker 4: matter what, that they're cutting taxes for the rich even

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Speaker 4: when they're not. So, how about a massive reduction in

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Speaker 4: what we take from the rich, because that's the surest

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Speaker 4: way to drive growth, simply because the rich will invest

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Speaker 4: it in ways that the typical American will not and

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Speaker 4: also cannot.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, what do you mean when you say that

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Speaker 1: government debt is a logical and perilous effect of market

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Speaker 1: optimism when it comes to like raising tax revenues and

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Speaker 1: the expectation of exponentially more tax revenue coming, and what

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Speaker 1: does that all mean?

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Speaker 4: To be clear, that's not me saying that I like

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Speaker 4: government debt. I think government spending is the biggest tax

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Speaker 4: of all. But think about you at your age now

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Speaker 4: relative to when you're twenty one. Can you borrow more

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Speaker 4: now or when you were twenty one? You don't have

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Speaker 4: to answer, because I know you can borrow more now

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Speaker 4: because you've got decades worth of income, You've got wealth

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Speaker 4: that you probably didn't have when you're twenty one. That's

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Speaker 4: true for individuals, that's true for businesses twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 4: And Nvidia couldn't borrow a dollar today, it can borrow

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Speaker 4: billions of dollars. Why, Because the market's trust is future

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Speaker 4: revenues that they are going to go up, up, up up.

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Speaker 4: Government is no different Precisely, because the US Treasury has

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Speaker 4: taxable access to the most productive people on earth, the richest,

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Speaker 4: most enterprising people on earth, it can borrow any enormous amounts.

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Speaker 4: And it can because government revenues go up, and then

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Speaker 4: then they keep going up. And so I'm making the

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Speaker 4: case in the deficit delusion that if we really want

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Speaker 4: to reduce the debt, we must reduce the taxation of

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Speaker 4: the rich so substantially that what they pay to the

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Speaker 4: government goes down substantially and revenues decline. Only then will

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Speaker 4: people say, hey, wait a second, the US means what

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Speaker 4: it says. It does not it wants to reduce taxes

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Speaker 4: on the rich. So the US is no longer a

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Speaker 4: good loan like it used to be. Now it's a

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Speaker 4: great loan. Jeff Bezos is overtax, SOO is Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: So's Donald Trump go down the list.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that our money, you know, keeps up,

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Speaker 1: you know, with inflation.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I use the pizza index as a laugh of curve.

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Speaker 1: Then there's the Dave Zier pizza index. You know, when

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, it was fifty cents for a

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Speaker 1: slice of pizza, and now it's three seventy five. You know.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean since nineteen seventy five that money

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Speaker 1: money is seven times less valuable?

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Speaker 4: Yes, but it probably hides how much less valuable money is.

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Speaker 4: Let's never forget what is capitalism or the profit motive,

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Speaker 4: but the process whereby we produce more and more goods

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Speaker 4: and services at lower and lower prices. The first laser

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Speaker 4: printer costs seventeen thousand. Now you can get one for

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Speaker 4: one hundred dollars. The first US flat screen TV costs

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Speaker 4: twenty five thousand. Now you can get it for two

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars. And so the natural direction of prices in

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Speaker 4: a capitalist society is for them to go down. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but imagine if the dollar were still one thirty fifth

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Speaker 4: of a gold ounce as it was in the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 4: Think how much cheaper everything would be, and think how

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Speaker 4: much more advanced we would be.

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Speaker 1: John, we're out of time. I really would like to

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Speaker 1: expand this conversation in the future. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us here, John Tamney, everybody, author of

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Speaker 1: deficit Delusion Delusion? Where can people buy your book? We

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Speaker 1: have thirty seconds and follow you well.

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Speaker 4: Amazon Amazon, buy several copies for all your friends, and

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Speaker 4: then you can find me at Twitter. You can also

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Speaker 4: find me at Real Clear Markets. I publish at least

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Speaker 4: one column a day, and so I'm very active put

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Speaker 4: out books. But I would love to hear from the

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Speaker 4: people and would love to come back.

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Speaker 1: I read the real clear spectrum every day, so I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on and we'll have you back.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, John, everybody. I'm David Zieria Watch and Breaking Point.

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