Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast overperformed in a contract year
Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hans's heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we did sign new contracts earlier this year, but we've
Speaker 1: actually worked harder than ever ever. And that that, my friends,
Speaker 1: is a sign of internal makeup. I think it tells
Speaker 1: you who we are, um at the core, are we gonna?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna glide and float? Because we signed those contracts,
Speaker 1: most of us would not professionals. I think our our
Speaker 1: outfits also say who we are. Mark rocking the business
Speaker 1: on top, party on the bottom, beautiful sport cope. But
Speaker 1: then the carefully ripped jeans below, I very careful, meticulously
Speaker 1: ripped up I call. I have explained to you multiple
Speaker 1: times that I owned three pairs of jeans that are
Speaker 1: function saying it's Burbank days up topwod I'm just telling you, like,
Speaker 1: if I were not in a laundry scenario, I would
Speaker 1: never wear these jeans to work. For this exact reason,
Speaker 1: the explanation. West used to come and super dressed up
Speaker 1: for a podcast every once in a while, and like
Speaker 1: Chris what's going on? Why are you all of a
Speaker 1: sudden wearing khaki's in a button shirt and a pull
Speaker 1: over sweaters like everything else is because it's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: That's why Mark sold One would be like, I have
Speaker 1: to leave the house early and I dressed in the dark.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that these are these are true anecdotes.
Speaker 1: I believe it to be UM for men, especially men
Speaker 1: our age. Um. You're older, Mark, obviously, but UM. And
Speaker 1: it's in a startorial s only numerology from a numbers angle,
Speaker 1: got it. That's that's what consa UM. There's I've said
Speaker 1: it on the show before. There's a lot of self
Speaker 1: consciousness with men, especially middle aged men, about how they're dressed.
Speaker 1: They feel uncomfortable with it because I think it's part
Speaker 1: of getting older, and so whenever he gets brought up,
Speaker 1: it gets it gets a little bit like, oh this
Speaker 1: I was dressing in the dark. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I'm more. That's fair, but I also think that
Speaker 1: there is a heightened um element of analyst analyzing what
Speaker 1: one one wears in this room. It happens, it happens,
Speaker 1: but it's all it's pointed out, you know, and it's
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Speaker 1: No buy's. It's week sixteen. The machine is cranking on
Speaker 1: Christmas Week. Jason Harwood's Hanukkah Week nights. Great call by
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I wonder what Brent Musburger would have said.
Speaker 1: Imagine Musburger's Jackpot Baby after the Chandler Jones touchdown on Sunday. Glorious.
Speaker 1: Mussburger probably would not have said it was Hank miracle.
Speaker 1: Um can I hear Brent again? I don't know where
Speaker 1: he's somewhere in Vegas right now. Jack Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think Brent, who's an older man now, I don't think
Speaker 1: he survives the jackpot baby. After the Chandler Jones touchdown,
Speaker 1: that would have been the end. Um, So it's good
Speaker 1: that he didn't do it. Let's get to the games
Speaker 1: a week sixteen um, and usually we start with the
Speaker 1: primetime games, and we have three Christmas Day games this year,
Speaker 1: there's obviously, um, the Saturday night game, the Monday night game,
Speaker 1: a reminder that means my dad will hand handle the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars New York Jets recap. Um check that out
Speaker 1: going up late Thursday night. Let's start with the draft
Speaker 1: this week, like it, I like, just better games. Well,
Speaker 1: because it's Saturday, though, we're doing it in order. It
Speaker 1: is confusing. I think a lot of people will be
Speaker 1: out doing things Christmas ever with their family, and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, wait, this is an NFL Sunday, but it's Saturday.
Speaker 1: You know, right, this is very much on your radar.
Speaker 1: I think this puts you in a position, whether it's
Speaker 1: from a ps A angle or getting on Twitter, getting
Speaker 1: on well, no, you did it through this vehicle. But
Speaker 1: you're talking about people that maybe don't even listen to
Speaker 1: the show. How do you bring the news to the
Speaker 1: average American slash international? Right, I'm just gonna instead of
Speaker 1: being a caroler, I'm just gonna walk the streets of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles letting people know as a public service, you're
Speaker 1: going to be arresting. I have the first overall pick
Speaker 1: in the draft this week, and I will select UH
Speaker 1: the NFL Total Access game of the week. That's the thing,
Speaker 1: by the way. The Philadelphia Eagles at Dallas Cowboys from
Speaker 1: Jarro World, here we go, and what a break? Not
Speaker 1: a break? It was earned and the Cowboys didn't get
Speaker 1: it done last week against the Jaguars. They blow a
Speaker 1: big lead in the second half and coupled with another
Speaker 1: Eagles win against the Bears, now there's a three game
Speaker 1: difference in the standings here. So the Eagles are in
Speaker 1: really good shape regardless of the outcome. They already beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the first time, so I don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about any type of head to head UH sweep
Speaker 1: that leads to a tie breaker issue. This team is
Speaker 1: trying to win the number one seed, and at thirteen
Speaker 1: and one, I think they need Greg one more win
Speaker 1: to do it simple? Not so simple. They don't have
Speaker 1: their quarterback this week. Jalen Hurts with the shoulder issue.
Speaker 1: UH is going to be rested, Uh, and it will
Speaker 1: be Gardner Minshew starting for the Eagles going to Dallas. Mark,
Speaker 1: I know you've long had a warm spot in your
Speaker 1: heart for Minshew was a very marked player. But I
Speaker 1: am with you. We talked a little before the show started.
Speaker 1: This feels like a spot where surrounded by all this talent.
Speaker 1: Don't think that the Eagles are gonna go to Dallas
Speaker 1: and get beat up here because I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: play well. No, it's not going to like a C
Speaker 1: grade backup where you have to completely change everything you do.
Speaker 1: I think that the Gardner Minshew pick up you know,
Speaker 1: which happened before this season obviously. UM was another example
Speaker 1: of Howie Roseman, Uh, you know who has had hot
Speaker 1: and cold streaks with the Eagles. But it's essentially built
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl contenders Um over the course of his
Speaker 1: run when he wasn't sent out to the back shed,
Speaker 1: when Chip Kelly was there for a year and a half.
Speaker 1: In five years, he's built up two separate pretty crazy
Speaker 1: because if you think about why Doug Peterson left, It
Speaker 1: was over a slight rift, over having to make some
Speaker 1: coaching changes and not wanting to go through a rebuild. Well,
Speaker 1: the rebuild lasted like a year and then you found out,
Speaker 1: oh wait, Jalen Hurts, who was on an audition a
Speaker 1: year ago, is a superstar and a potential m v
Speaker 1: P winner. UM. I think though the Gardner Minshew higher
Speaker 1: was another example of how well this team is built
Speaker 1: top to bottom because Minshew has a forty one to
Speaker 1: twelve touchdown to interception ratio. He had a season with
Speaker 1: the Jenny Bars where it was like twenty one touchdowns
Speaker 1: and six picks. So the one thing I'd say about
Speaker 1: him is you're not gonna put him in the lineup
Speaker 1: and have a bunch of wacky business going on. Where
Speaker 1: there where the Eagles can be beat if they were
Speaker 1: to turn the ball over three times against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They are really good UM on offense in terms of
Speaker 1: their versatility. You've got great wide receivers. I think this
Speaker 1: is a big opportunity for Miles Sanders to have a
Speaker 1: big game where I think some of his opportunities because
Speaker 1: you have Jalen Hurts running the ball sometimes ten plus times.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lead on Miles Sanders and in Minshew's mobile
Speaker 1: as well. So I just think that this is not
Speaker 1: a fatal blow for Philly at all, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they's see it that way. Light right. I love
Speaker 1: the Eagles plus five in this game. It was up
Speaker 1: to six at one point this week. That that seems
Speaker 1: crazy to me. I think they have a good chance
Speaker 1: to win. Minshew has taped on the Eagles. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was forty one for sixty last year with four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: moved the ball, uh, put up a lot of points
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Granted that there's backups playing and it
Speaker 1: was it was a strange, but also how to win
Speaker 1: against the Jets. So I think we've seen he can
Speaker 1: work in this system, and I think you got to
Speaker 1: use the Cowboys aggressiveness against them. We saw the Jaguars
Speaker 1: do do it a week ago, and it got me
Speaker 1: thinking this Cowboys defense is not quite where it was
Speaker 1: early in the season. They've had some injuries and they're
Speaker 1: not big name players Latent Vanderish, Anthony Brow, but you've
Speaker 1: seen their replacements get picked on and uh, you saw
Speaker 1: who was a Kelvin Joseph at cornerback is gonna probably
Speaker 1: have to match up against DeVante Smith on the outside
Speaker 1: or a J. Brown. That's a major mismatch. Uh. They
Speaker 1: had a linebacker come into the game for Dallas who
Speaker 1: really got picked on as well. Dron Bland's actually played
Speaker 1: pretty well for the Cowboys as a replacement, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't been the dominant Cowboys. I think you can run
Speaker 1: on this team, and we know the Eagles love to run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Joseph thing is something to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: because he did get picked on um last week by
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and you know that's going to be something. Uh,
Speaker 1: Billy's gonna want to replicate. And they also the pass
Speaker 1: rush of the Eagles is gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of this. Dak Prescott has had some issues with being
Speaker 1: loose with the football this year, a lot of turnovers
Speaker 1: in his starts UM every week. Now the Eagles are
Speaker 1: picking up um lots of sacks. They have six plus
Speaker 1: sacks and three straight games this year. They're up to
Speaker 1: fifty five sacks this year, which is closing in on
Speaker 1: the franchise record back in eighty nine when they had
Speaker 1: all those studs like Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Um, so
Speaker 1: they can rec have it that way. One thing that's
Speaker 1: not getting a ton of love or deserves a little
Speaker 1: more credit with the Cowboys this year. Their offensive line,
Speaker 1: which I know isn't at the Heyday levels of a
Speaker 1: few years back, but they're getting better. Their pass protection
Speaker 1: has been great. They did not allow sack last week.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I think that that those takedown
Speaker 1: numbers are so high for Philadelphia is that their secondary
Speaker 1: is so stacked. I mean Darius Slay Bradberry. They have
Speaker 1: against deeper passes ten plus yards, they allow forty eight
Speaker 1: point one passer reading, which is seventeen points lower than
Speaker 1: the next closest team, which is Seattle, And so you're
Speaker 1: basically clogging up all passing lanes, which is a problem
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott. They can run the ball. They also
Speaker 1: fourteen interceptions on those type of throws, so they are
Speaker 1: a takeaway defense and I just like the matchup for them.
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed by one thing though, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been out of brown Town and I keep seeing
Speaker 1: these like talking head shows about how Dak Prescott through
Speaker 1: to end the game last week. What bounced off Noah
Speaker 1: Brown's chest by the way. I mean, he has turned
Speaker 1: the over and he does force throws, but he didn't
Speaker 1: throw that pick six in a natural like, oh I
Speaker 1: didn't see the field and like it was a terrible play.
Speaker 1: They should have won the game. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: wasn't on dec I think it's just he's such an
Speaker 1: easy target. Go ahead and tell the people out there
Speaker 1: watch the game. Well I just did. I said, go
Speaker 1: watch the player. Please go watch the play and tell
Speaker 1: me if the wide receiver of him bouncing off the
Speaker 1: chest of another go watch the play. There you go.
Speaker 1: The offensive line you mentioned for the Cowboys done our job. Uh.
Speaker 1: That has played really well, especially on the ground, and
Speaker 1: I think that's how they win this game. I think
Speaker 1: both teams are better when they play with the lead
Speaker 1: and can run, and I think the Cowboys will be
Speaker 1: able to run on Philadelphia although they run defense has improved.
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of changes. I mean, last week,
Speaker 1: Tyrone Smith a future Hall of Famer. People throw that
Speaker 1: out pretty easily. I think with Tyrone Smith it's safe. Uh.
Speaker 1: They now have potentially three future Hall of famers on
Speaker 1: this offensive line, which which is crazy with Zack Martin
Speaker 1: and Jason Peters now mixing. But Tyron Smith is playing
Speaker 1: right tag called out of nowhere, He's never played right
Speaker 1: tackle before. I think they're gonna keep that going. Jason
Speaker 1: Peters is mixing in at the different tackle positions. It's
Speaker 1: a bigger test this week of this new set up
Speaker 1: with the guys playing different position against Philadelphia. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I do want to say I think Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 1: one guy that can make this Philadelphia secondary that can
Speaker 1: win matchups. Like I just love what Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 1: giving them, and I think Dak played well last week.
Speaker 1: I still like the Cowboys to win this game, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a coin flip. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a little my radars up about the Cowboys right now.
Speaker 1: There's a whiff of something familiar around them as the
Speaker 1: season reaches, regular season is reaching its conclusion. This is
Speaker 1: kind of me like a show me game for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Like you did get a gift here with Jalen Hurts out.
Speaker 1: I know min who's a good backup, but he's no,
Speaker 1: he's not not even close to Jalen Hurts. And what
Speaker 1: this offense is when they have their guy go win
Speaker 1: this game in your building? Yeah, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: lose it. You nearly lost to the Texans. Um you
Speaker 1: were outshined by the Jaguars, which I was notable to
Speaker 1: me And I get it if you don't go beat it.
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts free Eagles team. I'm just not sure what
Speaker 1: we say about the Cowboys of they're a playoff team
Speaker 1: that probably will be off, as in every other cop
Speaker 1: show us that that's not going to be your fate
Speaker 1: again this year. Up next in the draft is Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: It is a bizarre week of games here. We have
Speaker 1: a seven early. I'm not gonna take one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take forty Niners commanders late because I just want one
Speaker 1: of the two late games. And right now the forty
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do during the just hanging
Speaker 1: out wrap your gifts? Because we're also being our residences,
Speaker 1: our homes, So I mean, I could I could get
Speaker 1: up to any anything I want to do, but you
Speaker 1: could you could just watch the games and contribute to
Speaker 1: the kind of mystery equally. I think it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it because, uh, and I'm pulling a fast one here.
Speaker 1: I I told the producers that was taking a different game.
Speaker 1: I changed my mind mid sentence and they're just on
Speaker 1: the ball. You can watch this on YouTube if you're
Speaker 1: not a listening or you want to double up see
Speaker 1: what we're wearing. See Marks jeans. Maybe he'll stand up
Speaker 1: at on the The forty Niners to me are just
Speaker 1: kind of must watch each week. I love this pretty
Speaker 1: experience because I think this is a perfect game for them.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be tested overall, and they do
Speaker 1: need to keep winning to try to go get the
Speaker 1: two seed, but they certainly will be tested when they're
Speaker 1: on offense. And I think the interior line of this
Speaker 1: the forty Niners has really played better than you would
Speaker 1: expect throughout the course of the season. But man adding
Speaker 1: arc Armstead to this defensive line at this point in
Speaker 1: the season feels like one of the best editions out
Speaker 1: there because Armstead really wasn't himself early in the year
Speaker 1: that he has this injury. He comes back and he
Speaker 1: was a monster last week, and I'd love to see, uh,
Speaker 1: rather what Pretty and the defense at the offense for
Speaker 1: the forty Niners does against Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne
Speaker 1: and Montes Wet and Chase Young might be back, so
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a a perfect match up against
Speaker 1: the Commander's team. I think they'll get pretty on the move.
Speaker 1: He throws better on the move than Jimmy Garoppol. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's gonna be better, but he
Speaker 1: does some things better. And I think he throws better
Speaker 1: on the moon. And since you brought it up and
Speaker 1: made me think of the last vital play of that
Speaker 1: game last week when Party, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: pass play. He scrambles all the right, he gets the
Speaker 1: first down. I'm just like, is Jimmy G make that play.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Party is a better player than
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. I don't think, but I think he he's
Speaker 1: adding a little bit more athleticism to the position. And
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be able to hit passes like Jimmy
Speaker 1: G like he's done so far, they are they're cooking.
Speaker 1: Over his two games, he the forty Niners have a
Speaker 1: five point to nine offensive e p A per game,
Speaker 1: and that is the highest um of any starting quarterback
Speaker 1: ever during the Kyle Shanahan Niners era. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's a two game sample size, but he's looked
Speaker 1: the part. It hasn't been an operation or like they're
Speaker 1: playing around him. It's the complete opposite. He's been totally aggressive.
Speaker 1: I do think like there's an opportunity for Washington there
Speaker 1: the fourth run defense and d v O. A UM,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure any of that matters when you're playing
Speaker 1: the Niners, because they just find a way to destroy
Speaker 1: you one way or another. And Christian McCaffrey like fits
Speaker 1: in so well with this team, and then I look
Speaker 1: at their defense and it's like, yeah, you know, Washington,
Speaker 1: I would have said they had no chance on that
Speaker 1: Monday night game going in against the Eagles. They would
Speaker 1: be flattened by that team, and they found a way
Speaker 1: to hang around. I mean, I guess that's their move.
Speaker 1: But you've got Nick Posla, who, to me, outside of
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, looks like the defensive player of the URI,
Speaker 1: leads the league in sacks. They've had a armstead, They've
Speaker 1: just been dominant. They haven't allowed more than seventeen points
Speaker 1: in a game going back to Week seven. I believe yes,
Speaker 1: and they have allowed and they're basically they're statistically the
Speaker 1: same defense, if not better than defense that beat Damn
Speaker 1: Marino in the Super Bowl. The Commanders are heavy underdogs
Speaker 1: this week home for the Browns, home for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: who may or may not be playing for anything that week,
Speaker 1: probably really won't. There's a real chance here they go
Speaker 1: one and two and missed the playoffs, and there there's
Speaker 1: a chance they're going and three. It is nothing is
Speaker 1: guaranteed for this Commander's team. That the loss obviously against
Speaker 1: the Giants was a killer for them because it removed
Speaker 1: any wiggle ruin. Now they have a tough schedule, so
Speaker 1: I don't expect Washington UH to pull this off. I'm
Speaker 1: just checking out a New York Times playoff picture percentage breakdown.
Speaker 1: They haven't had a chance to make the playoffs Giants
Speaker 1: up to percent chance now, So there you go. Um
Speaker 1: they need this game, and yeah, I'm with you on
Speaker 1: the forty nine is. It's just like they're so they're
Speaker 1: an interesting team to watch right now because they already
Speaker 1: were a compelling team that was talented and well coached
Speaker 1: and obviously feels a little overdue for a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1: And now that you've added this party element to it,
Speaker 1: their story just got a lot more interesting and got
Speaker 1: a little more Hollywood on top of it. So it's
Speaker 1: just a fun team to asked like a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, like, what's the you know the variants here
Speaker 1: is they fall of the cliff or Party becomes this
Speaker 1: sort of super Bowl hero that is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest sport stories around, and it's like, uh, we're trending
Speaker 1: towards the totally unlikely side of that. No media night,
Speaker 1: the the the the huge circle of people around Party
Speaker 1: seven questions about being Mr Irrelevant or here is another
Speaker 1: option for for media Night Jerry Jones. I'll take Party
Speaker 1: by the way, Nick Boss, Now, it would be pretty
Speaker 1: good at Do I need two straight weeks of it? No?
Speaker 1: I don't. I would love either one of those teams
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I think the NFC we're getting
Speaker 1: a fun, fun team, no matter what, a bizarre team,
Speaker 1: no matter what. I'm intrigued. Yeah, I think you might
Speaker 1: miss Jared when he's gone. I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: a Cowboy super Bowl two straight weeks of it, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: and you know doses do you want it once though
Speaker 1: we haven't had it? I want I would love a
Speaker 1: Cowboy super Bowl. It would be exciting. I was alive.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you are quickly, Nick Bosa, Well,
Speaker 1: we weren't covering football. I'm just saying covering it. You're
Speaker 1: a camp happiness by the lady. I had more, I
Speaker 1: would make my own. I made my own football magazine
Speaker 1: on a dot matrix printer in my room, so I
Speaker 1: was covering it to some degree. Well, it was nerdy.
Speaker 1: I don't have a car I can drive. I would
Speaker 1: love to see those, actually, I think I have. Did
Speaker 1: you bring them in once? No? I don't have them
Speaker 1: on hand. There there have been a box in my
Speaker 1: parents house somewhere when Mark's old football magazines would be
Speaker 1: a good offseason game show. I noticed this week Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa is now the favorite for Defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year over Parsons. That's one of the races I'm watching
Speaker 1: nicely the last three weeks. I think it's fair. I
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a coin flip. I would maybe
Speaker 1: take Parsons right now, but you don't for defense but
Speaker 1: only M v P, which is annoying. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a problem. I think these last three weeks
Speaker 1: are big. I don't like to circle back, but two things.
Speaker 1: Parsons did miss practice this week with an illness? Uh?
Speaker 1: And did you mention that Calvin Joseph was benched. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Um. Dan Quentin said Monday that
Speaker 1: there's a competition now to determine who will play a
Speaker 1: cornerback opposite Trey Bond Diggs. So they're scrambling now and
Speaker 1: the guy that they identified to replace Anthony Brown didn't
Speaker 1: work out. So that is you know, Meanshoe is licking
Speaker 1: his chops there. But we got to spin forward through
Speaker 1: that game, through the second game to Mark Daddie third pick. Mark.
Speaker 1: I'm just like this, it's Christmas time. Um, I want
Speaker 1: to give myself gifts, things that I'd actually want. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Buffalo shka. That's what Christmas is about,
Speaker 1: give myself gifts that I want. Well, that's how I operate.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the actual mold that people's other
Speaker 1: people should follow. Yes, it is better to receive than
Speaker 1: to give in some cases. Christmas the quarterbacks, it's really
Speaker 1: easy for me. I mean, I think, I think I
Speaker 1: want to see. For me, it's the trajectory of watching
Speaker 1: Josh Allen down the stretch. You know, they got into
Speaker 1: a bit of trouble against the Dolphins. Obviously, I thought
Speaker 1: Miami made that obvious a game where you needed Josh
Speaker 1: Allen suddenly when the snow started to fall to take
Speaker 1: over that thing. And I love that. Just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago was considered a hazardous draft pick that
Speaker 1: could have gone all over the map, and to watch
Speaker 1: what he did three yards, four touchdowns and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the fumbles with Josh Allen. I think it's a
Speaker 1: sort of part of his game. This year, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be as pers seen as it was under the
Speaker 1: heights of Brian Dable perhaps, So it's like, I'm willing
Speaker 1: to live with the turnovers here and there when it's
Speaker 1: not killing them, because he'll he'll flip around and do
Speaker 1: the forty four yard run and dive for the two
Speaker 1: point conversion that no one else can do. And then
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, So on the flip side, why
Speaker 1: do I pick the Bears? Obviously, Like, no matter what,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is surrounded by really nothing in the passing game,
Speaker 1: Like their wide receiver group is absurd, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: really seem to matter. He's unstoppable on the ground, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to see con Buffalo. It's a great test
Speaker 1: they might have to deal with some mobile quarterbacks down
Speaker 1: the stretch here, like, can you stop justin Fields because
Speaker 1: no one else can Watching him absolutely destroy last week,
Speaker 1: It's like he just every week is gonna do three
Speaker 1: or four things that makes the Bears. They're suddenly in
Speaker 1: a game they shouldn't be. And I feel like every
Speaker 1: week because of him, Because simply because of him. Their
Speaker 1: defense also showed up for the first time in about
Speaker 1: three months after thereby, And I do think it's interesting
Speaker 1: to watch teams after thereby they often fix some things
Speaker 1: they're They're also a little healthier on defense, not on offense.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Clay the receiver group, Claypool is out, Equanimius
Speaker 1: st Brown is out. Uh, Tevin Jenkins, who's played well
Speaker 1: for them on their offensive line is out, so Cody
Speaker 1: white Hair might be out also up front. So it's
Speaker 1: like they have really lost weapons. And I just want
Speaker 1: Fields to get to the end of the season here
Speaker 1: without getting hurt. I would say with alan Um the
Speaker 1: same is true. But and this is a perfect test
Speaker 1: because they should be able to put up thirty plus points.
Speaker 1: But you mentioned on the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert's coming back for Chicago. They have Herbert Montgomery fields.
Speaker 1: Buffalo got pushed around a little bit against Miami in
Speaker 1: the run game, and that was kind of an old
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott thing. If this defense had a hole was
Speaker 1: in run defense. That hasn't been a problem this year,
Speaker 1: but this is a great test for them. And I
Speaker 1: thought last week was a perfect test for the Bills
Speaker 1: and their ability to kind of look a loss in
Speaker 1: the eye on Saturday night, down eight points of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter against the good opponent and find a way
Speaker 1: to win that game. I just, you know, I moved
Speaker 1: It's all kind of silly, but in the power ranks,
Speaker 1: I moved the Bills one spot ahead of the Bengals
Speaker 1: this week um flop them basically three and four. So
Speaker 1: it's just like I just think, when it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, this year, Josh Allen is not gonna be denied.
Speaker 1: Like that's more about Buffalo and Cincinnati. They get to
Speaker 1: play in next week and Alan specifically in their ability,
Speaker 1: and that's that's such a huge when you look at
Speaker 1: where these where these teams stack up. Buffalo is at
Speaker 1: eleven and three, Chiefs at eleven and three, Buffalo has
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker on the Chiefs, But guess what if things
Speaker 1: hold into next week and Cincinnati's ten and four and
Speaker 1: they beat Buffalo, then they both have four losses in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has that tiebreaker in their head to head. They
Speaker 1: just need to win out the Bengals to get the
Speaker 1: one seed there and one Chief's Laws. What does that
Speaker 1: even mean anymore? I don't know what right it made
Speaker 1: me nothing, But it's just if you get Lamar, it's
Speaker 1: a division game. They're the Bengals got one of the
Speaker 1: or one of these teams tagged with the tougher like
Speaker 1: final three games here. Absolutely, but but it's pretty simple
Speaker 1: for them if they could win out, they just need
Speaker 1: one Chief's Law and they get the number one seed.
Speaker 1: So it is. It is fascinating. These three teams have
Speaker 1: really pulled ahead of the pack, and yet I kind
Speaker 1: of I still feel like the Eddie justin fields game
Speaker 1: feels a little dangerous right now, just looking forward to
Speaker 1: him having a you know, a team around him and
Speaker 1: just like stay healthy. Just note that the Chiefs, like
Speaker 1: for your one lost business, they got the Seahawks, but
Speaker 1: then they got the Broncos and Raiders, so somebody would
Speaker 1: really need to go run the Raiders. It's crazy with
Speaker 1: it's the biggest, the best chance they're just because it's
Speaker 1: a division game. But you're right, they'll be and should
Speaker 1: be heavily favored in every game. And we've been talking
Speaker 1: about the Bears in this way, um which for several weeks,
Speaker 1: which really is a credit obviously the fields. They lose
Speaker 1: literally every week. They've lost seven straight games, so the
Speaker 1: second it's crazy. It's kind of been perfect. Other than
Speaker 1: that Jets game. They're like always in these games, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they always lose them. All right, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and we will roll. All right, welcome back in case
Speaker 1: you're just joining us. Uh Mark Sassler Burbank up top,
Speaker 1: Hollywood down low. He might even show you his pants
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Some people talking, but
Speaker 1: definitely if you go to the live shop, I'd say
Speaker 1: it like we should, we should make it. You know what,
Speaker 1: you don't get the pack, you don't. But if you
Speaker 1: go to Hollywood on January eighteen in the Bourbon Room
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Speaker 1: Um anyway, you're up, Mark. Like I said, I'm picking
Speaker 1: games that I would I want to watch and be
Speaker 1: home on the couch on Saints at Brown's. I knew
Speaker 1: this is Kevin. Can I tell you a weird weason
Speaker 1: like you could. You could probably guess five reasons why
Speaker 1: you think I picked this, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: I'm really back to being a Browns fan. No, not
Speaker 1: at all. Like I love watching the Saints outdoors in
Speaker 1: cold weather. I just love seeing them thrown out of
Speaker 1: the doss. Your favorite team, they are not it is
Speaker 1: going to be. I heard this. We are your favorite
Speaker 1: team for thirty five years, and it's start to let
Speaker 1: go of that. Well that is true, but I mean
Speaker 1: things have changed and they're on I'm on a break
Speaker 1: from them right now, so we'll see what happens. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It was Andrew Siciliano in our newsroom who announced loudly
Speaker 1: that it's going to be sixty two mile per hour wind.
Speaker 1: Gus and you said something loud Well, he does like
Speaker 1: he likes to prepare for a shot. Booming broadcasters voice
Speaker 1: sitting near him in the greatest sitting near him, and
Speaker 1: we have discussions about things. I sometimes think of Andrew
Speaker 1: like as a three year old, just like having a
Speaker 1: conversation with his mom, just like, oh would you like
Speaker 1: I would like? I would like sereal like he just
Speaker 1: even as a young child. A listener to this shows
Speaker 1: he was slightly off. Actually, I think he was born
Speaker 1: with this beautiful, booming broadcaster voice that you had that
Speaker 1: for birth. Oh so the voice was the same when
Speaker 1: he was three years He's not. You didn't execute it,
Speaker 1: and you made him sound like he's an infant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a man, we just not typically taken well by
Speaker 1: a man. Let's just move forward. He's probably jogging right now,
Speaker 1: but he listens to this. Um, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: want to see, like I guess from a Cleveland angle,
Speaker 1: like each week is a little bit more of what
Speaker 1: does this offense want to be? I think that they've
Speaker 1: kind of lost their way with Watson in there. He's
Speaker 1: he's averaging six point four seven air yards per attempt,
Speaker 1: which is down almost three air yards two and a
Speaker 1: half from where he was with the Texans. So I
Speaker 1: mean we know that he's he's getting uh, you know,
Speaker 1: back into the groove of things here. I think that
Speaker 1: the it's it's throwing the run game off. Um, it's
Speaker 1: weird that like watching that Ravens game again, like wait
Speaker 1: a minute, suddenly it's I know the Ravens are compromised
Speaker 1: on offense massively, but like the Browns defense has been,
Speaker 1: they've shown up a couple of weeks here like that.
Speaker 1: There are different defense right now. Like Denzel wardatop played
Speaker 1: his best game of the year against Baltimore. Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: it's not just Myles Garrett this point, like he really
Speaker 1: really is. Like I know he's he would never be
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year because they've been a bad defense,
Speaker 1: and but individually he's had I think his best season.
Speaker 1: I really do. Nick Chubb was a question mark. It
Speaker 1: sounds like he will practice. I think that's essential for them.
Speaker 1: And when it comes to the Saints, like I know
Speaker 1: that they're a very frustrating team to their fan base
Speaker 1: right now with massive questions because I don't think you
Speaker 1: have a coach or a quarterback going in the next season.
Speaker 1: I mean you definitely don't. I don't like the coach situation,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what happens. You could keep Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton around as a filling the blank back up, but
Speaker 1: what are we really selling anyone there? But you do
Speaker 1: have quietly and Christal lave or Shihat and Jawan Johnson
Speaker 1: like the making the makings of a really good wide
Speaker 1: receiver group. And so each week it seems like I'm
Speaker 1: looking up at Andy Dalton is not the Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: that I knew for a long time. He's like a
Speaker 1: deep ball thrower in this offense at times, and like
Speaker 1: quite intriguing and like kind uncomfortable in his own skin
Speaker 1: version of Andy Dalton so very clean. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: used to this weather. So let's see what happens in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the weather is hard to imagine overcoming
Speaker 1: um to have like a great passing game. You never
Speaker 1: know in these games like Philly Chicago, Hurts was throwing
Speaker 1: the ball down the field with the shoulder and it
Speaker 1: was like fifteen degrees, So I guess you you never know.
Speaker 1: The Saints can't really run the ball though, and you
Speaker 1: you feel like the better running team wins this game,
Speaker 1: and and so I trust the Browns more. You're right,
Speaker 1: the defense has looked better. Part of that as you
Speaker 1: played Huntley and the Texans, but they also made life
Speaker 1: very difficult on the Bengals in that game. I felt
Speaker 1: like the Bengals were lucky to end up winning that
Speaker 1: game convincingly. They had to work really hard, uh for
Speaker 1: what they got. And so there's some optimism for whichever
Speaker 1: team wins this game. This is essentially an elimination game
Speaker 1: for these two teams. The Saints, especially if they could win,
Speaker 1: have like a somewhat realistic path to surviving total by
Speaker 1: an NFC South team in December at this point in
Speaker 1: a driver's to this to the same point, and I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be doomsday for the Saints. Because
Speaker 1: they lose to Cleveland, which I expect them to do here,
Speaker 1: and the Bucks beat a third string quarterback in Arizona,
Speaker 1: that's it. They're eliminated from contention and you could take
Speaker 1: at least one team out of the mix in the
Speaker 1: NFC South the year. I'm just like, I've seen too
Speaker 1: much inconsistency in general from the Saints this year to
Speaker 1: expect them to to take that wind and then build
Speaker 1: on it. With a big road wind and bad conditions
Speaker 1: a Dome team, I just don't see it. I just
Speaker 1: said Cleveland, like from a record angle, if you win this,
Speaker 1: you're seven and eight. You've got the Commanders, all right,
Speaker 1: I think that's anyone could beat the Commanders on the
Speaker 1: right day. And then you've got the Steelers, like which
Speaker 1: they hand they match up pretty well with much of
Speaker 1: the a f C race in terms of the sketchier
Speaker 1: lower teams. Amounts to them needing the Dolphins and or
Speaker 1: the Chargers to lose two out of three, and and
Speaker 1: then if they do, it comes down to tiebreakers and
Speaker 1: which team it is. I think that's realistic that either
Speaker 1: the Dolphins or the Chargers could lose two out of
Speaker 1: three or maybe even all three. I think the Browns,
Speaker 1: the winner of this game, is gonna be in it.
Speaker 1: But but the offense, to your point, Mark, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: much worth it was with Watson, they were fifth in
Speaker 1: passing fourth and offense. With Present there twenty second in
Speaker 1: passing offense. It follows a markedly visually different team. Um.
Speaker 1: And remember when we're talking all these a f C permutations,
Speaker 1: some of those brutal Cleveland losses liked for instance, went
Speaker 1: to the Jets. Uh, they don't have the tiebreaker there,
Speaker 1: so there's so many things have to go right for
Speaker 1: Cleveland to get start by winning all these games and
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton windless on the road in four starts. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they have They've average fifteen points per game in
Speaker 1: those road games. Pffs number two quarterback this year in
Speaker 1: passing grade that Altona sans has happened quietly, like very quietly,
Speaker 1: with all due respect to PFF. Like some of the
Speaker 1: quarterback situations, it's like, to the eye, is Andy Dalton net?
Speaker 1: Like I get where they're coming from. That's gonna keep
Speaker 1: this one under their hat. I get it though he's
Speaker 1: played clean, and they just like don't ask makes any
Speaker 1: point of Andy Dalton on the road or outside, Like
Speaker 1: go watch him in that Steelers game. That was like that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get that everything. But some things you keep
Speaker 1: under the hat. We love them. We adore the the
Speaker 1: glitch in the algorithm here, let's just keep this one
Speaker 1: under the mat. Uh, Greg, you're up, am. I I'm
Speaker 1: taking the Around the NFL team better known as the
Speaker 1: team of Around the NFL and the Panthers. I take round.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm already on the Christmas vacation here. What
Speaker 1: is happening? Sometimes I forget we're even recording. I am
Speaker 1: so happy makes a good show though, you know, just
Speaker 1: three guys chopping up, just like three buddies in a bar.
Speaker 1: It's like that's the show right there. They're just friends.
Speaker 1: The football stuff, it's like they're just buddy is. It's
Speaker 1: like that's the show. I am so excited Mark didn't
Speaker 1: take this. It was maybe a strategic error by myself
Speaker 1: to even let it sit out there. I love this
Speaker 1: Lions team. I love the way the defense tackles, and
Speaker 1: I think that shows up big this week because this
Speaker 1: Panthers team couldn't get the running game going last week.
Speaker 1: They count on a lot of yards after the catch,
Speaker 1: and this secondary for the Lions. Maybe they're not great
Speaker 1: in coverage, they're okay, but the pass rush has been
Speaker 1: showing up. But when you get a ball out on
Speaker 1: the edge, or whether it's the running game or not,
Speaker 1: if it's a Kuda, if it's one of the safety's,
Speaker 1: if it's the linebackers like Rodrigo, if it's Adan Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: In the running game, they just play with great energy
Speaker 1: and they tackle really well, and it's it can be underrated,
Speaker 1: but you can just look at it and you can
Speaker 1: see it. And I think the way that they're gonna
Speaker 1: lose this season at some point is a great passing
Speaker 1: attack exposes them and I just don't see that with
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I think Sam Donald is stabilized this Panther's offense.
Speaker 1: I think he's been the best quarterback they've had this year.
Speaker 1: You gotta give him some credit. He's not making a
Speaker 1: huge mistake. He's had some nice throws. But they're so
Speaker 1: unaggressive in terms of the way they call games compared
Speaker 1: to the Lions, who are aggressive in every situation. That's
Speaker 1: why I love them on the road this week. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm locking up the team around the NFL. This
Speaker 1: is a problem, uh this and this has not worked
Speaker 1: down in the past for me, But I learned our
Speaker 1: production team that I am also locking up the Lions. Um,
Speaker 1: but I feel Greg. I think it's our chance to
Speaker 1: get the lock Rose. Are you We won two and
Speaker 1: we won last time. We want a couple in a row.
Speaker 1: I think we lost at some point or the lock Rose.
Speaker 1: What were you guys a kidding? I don't even know
Speaker 1: if we had a trenchant nickname. I mean, we we
Speaker 1: have to come up with one after we do when
Speaker 1: it's like when a Hollywood studio takes two real heavyweight
Speaker 1: stars and just stick them together in a production and like, oh,
Speaker 1: that will work, but you need chemistry. And I think
Speaker 1: when you guys lock up, there's just there's something off
Speaker 1: in the mix, like you would you would like this
Speaker 1: to be true, but the whole like, oh we're on
Speaker 1: a roll here. You guys are sinking in this long
Speaker 1: lock competition because of games that you agreed on taking
Speaker 1: two big els, whereas I at least remember the last
Speaker 1: time we did it, we were fine. Mark. I don't
Speaker 1: like I don't like locking up with you because you're
Speaker 1: in the lead spots, like nothing changes. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is Greg You typically by Sunday regret locking with
Speaker 1: another human. So it's like, why didn't made the first
Speaker 1: pick here? And uh, it was time to let me know.
Speaker 1: The last time that Mark and I locked together that
Speaker 1: was waved off is um an issue because Mark was
Speaker 1: out that week and we didn't have a chance to vibe. No,
Speaker 1: it's really sort of and we just could look at
Speaker 1: each other's eyes and we know that it's locks gonna
Speaker 1: get a chance to last time Mark and I locked
Speaker 1: together was a successful Bengals over Steelers. All right, so
Speaker 1: here we go. We're on a We're on a roll.
Speaker 1: You could say it factually. Um, I like I like
Speaker 1: the lock. I have to say the Panthers kind of
Speaker 1: spooked me last week, and that just when people were
Speaker 1: starting to buy it on maybe they're the NFC South
Speaker 1: team that can you know, have their dignity playing in
Speaker 1: January football. They let Pittsburgh basically beat them at their
Speaker 1: own game. They were more physical, they played better defense,
Speaker 1: and in general was just like, oh, guys, get you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta beat the mitchro Bisky team in
Speaker 1: your building with a chance to tie for first place
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. So I lost a lot of
Speaker 1: faith in them here. At the same time, um, is
Speaker 1: their defense good enough to really slow down the Detroit attack? Now,
Speaker 1: the Jets did it last week, but it really depends
Speaker 1: how much you believe in Caroline's ability to do that
Speaker 1: and whether you think the Lion win, while impressive, and
Speaker 1: how it ended and how they came back and closed
Speaker 1: out the Jets there. They did not look very good
Speaker 1: in that game on offense. For the first time in
Speaker 1: a while. I mean, Carolina is fourth and points allowed
Speaker 1: since Week ten, so I think their defense has been
Speaker 1: pretty consistent. Um. I think they've responded to Steve Wilkes
Speaker 1: really well, who I think should flat out just get
Speaker 1: that job. But I I don't know how you stopped
Speaker 1: what Detroit's doing right now. And I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of like if you're Brad Holmes the Lions GM because
Speaker 1: you mentioned some of these guys like Aiden Hutchinson worked out,
Speaker 1: he's working out, Malcolm Malcolm Rodriguez is working out. James
Speaker 1: Houston has one or more sacks in this last four games,
Speaker 1: where it's like it's just like a stat outline has
Speaker 1: been great for them. We'll think about this along with
Speaker 1: Alman Ross st Brown, who is if you were playing
Speaker 1: somewhere else, would be massively celebrated. Did Um. Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: is getting a few more like at some point here
Speaker 1: they're gonna let them play like a full helping and
Speaker 1: they're starting to look at like this team they kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of like the Cowboys, where outside of
Speaker 1: the golf quarterback position, I mean even he's playing well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because it's like they were so
Speaker 1: young and it was really just a team that had
Speaker 1: been formed in the last like two or three seasons
Speaker 1: under Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones. But like suddenly you
Speaker 1: staught that you saw like the formula come together and
Speaker 1: they became dominant at the things they were good at,
Speaker 1: and then the next season they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the Lions, but there's so
Speaker 1: many young places pieces in place that will be here
Speaker 1: for a really long time. They've got high draft picks
Speaker 1: because of the golf thing, and the golf things are
Speaker 1: working out better than Matthew Stafford right now outside of
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring kN Steve Wilkes kind of muddy.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the Rams got what they wanted out of it.
Speaker 1: But the Rams are in full fledged right now. But
Speaker 1: no one thought Detroit one with golf though, That's all
Speaker 1: and it happened. They are winning big on both sides.
Speaker 1: Ken Steve wilk kind of muddy the picture for golf
Speaker 1: and make them hold the ball. Did not play well
Speaker 1: in the cold last week year, right like kind of
Speaker 1: when you get him to hold the ball and try
Speaker 1: to make up play off timing, it can get rough.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm throwing a little fantasy nug out.
Speaker 1: I love being some DeAndre Swift this week and in
Speaker 1: your fantasy or dfs because you can see the big
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift day coming. The explosiveness is back. It hasn't
Speaker 1: totally resulted in numbers. And you looked at this Panthers
Speaker 1: team a week ago. They got pushed around. They were
Speaker 1: dominated in that game on the ground, and so I
Speaker 1: think the Lions gonna go run the ball a lot.
Speaker 1: And I think Ben ben Johnson, who's having a great
Speaker 1: year at offensive coordinator, I think he could get a
Speaker 1: job a big chair of this January and Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: have done a good job with Swift since he's coming
Speaker 1: back and looking better than not overworking him there. He's
Speaker 1: part of the puzzle, not the piece that they're when
Speaker 1: they're playing for January. They're gonna unleash him in January.
Speaker 1: And thank you boys, because uh, I got two really
Speaker 1: good games here. Um to pick because some games that
Speaker 1: surprised me have come off the board early, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start here. You're prized by the team of a
Speaker 1: t L going off early. Watch him every week. It
Speaker 1: hurt me last week that was the first Lines game
Speaker 1: and watch live in about seven weeks. This is the
Speaker 1: team of th h A L two Cleveland, New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Think would have gone off Buffalo Chicago going third overall?
Speaker 1: And I know it's at Cleveland, Detroit and Caroline. How
Speaker 1: about Giants at Vikings? How about how about the GMN
Speaker 1: coming off a very very big win on Sunday night?
Speaker 1: Now did they get they get some help from the zebras.
Speaker 1: He sure did, But that does not mean, that does
Speaker 1: not mean you take away, um, you take anything or
Speaker 1: everything away from them, because I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: that early season DNA in this game. And and and
Speaker 1: that the drive that stands out to me more than
Speaker 1: any other drive in the game that made me think, okay,
Speaker 1: they might now have kind of recalibrated things and be
Speaker 1: able to take this and get to the playoffs was
Speaker 1: before the controversial game ending drive, uh after Heineke put
Speaker 1: it on the ground and Ron Rivera saying himself, this
Speaker 1: guy is terrible. Why does everybody like him so much?
Speaker 1: And the Giants took the ball back and it was
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they needed to choose some clock and
Speaker 1: get some points, but just kind of get things stabilized
Speaker 1: here before the defense lost the game, and he just
Speaker 1: gave it to see Kwan over and over and he
Speaker 1: just ran through people over and over and before he
Speaker 1: knew it, they kicked the field goal that allows them
Speaker 1: to hold on and win that game. And just, uh,
Speaker 1: that's important. That's Quon's healthy or looks healthy, and the
Speaker 1: Giants now have that taste of victory again. Playing a
Speaker 1: Minnesota team, that what the hell? Man, you don't know
Speaker 1: what to expect in this game because you never know
Speaker 1: what to expect, but you do because like ten they're
Speaker 1: tenan o in one possession games. So it's like even
Speaker 1: when they were losing to the Cults that way, it's like,
Speaker 1: of course they're gonna every one of these games down
Speaker 1: three nothing or whatever it was. I would say, I
Speaker 1: will say one thing, and you don't have to believe me.
Speaker 1: But we were on we were texting. I didn't see
Speaker 1: his text to later, but Dan, you said, right before
Speaker 1: the half off, the Vikings can just get a touch
Speaker 1: on here, and it happened later to but you were like,
Speaker 1: there was this confidence was joking, but I was also
Speaker 1: kind of serious in the sense that like if there's
Speaker 1: one team, well, there's two teams that could pull this
Speaker 1: thing off. It was the Vikings on one side and
Speaker 1: the Cults on the other. Cult what one offensive touchdown
Speaker 1: in that game? I mean, you want the Giants were
Speaker 1: the most helped by the Zebras last week and the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Yes they won, but they had two touchdowns taken away
Speaker 1: that clearly should have been scores. You know what, that's
Speaker 1: a great point. Not only the Cults have the biggest
Speaker 1: collapse in NFL history, they also were the most helped
Speaker 1: by officiating and they still lost the game. They got
Speaker 1: fourteen points taken off the board by bad calls and
Speaker 1: they still lost, and they had a thirty three nothing lead.
Speaker 1: And so wait, Saturday, this has been floated out there,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of remarkable that, you know, obviously six
Speaker 1: weeks ago he was doing what we do. Uh, then
Speaker 1: he gave up the biggest comeback in NFL history, what
Speaker 1: which wiped away Frank Reich's biggest comeback of all time
Speaker 1: front number one. But then to the week before against Dallas,
Speaker 1: they gave up the most points in a quarter. They
Speaker 1: gave up thirty three, and then they were up thirty
Speaker 1: three to nothing, and then they gave that up and
Speaker 1: gave the game up. It's like Jeff Saturday's resume is insane.
Speaker 1: I think one thing about the framing with that was
Speaker 1: going around a lot like, oh man, the cults, how
Speaker 1: much they're doing so dirty? I was like, Frank Reich
Speaker 1: probably his way into this. This was a humiliating franchise
Speaker 1: lost for the Cults. I know that his win was
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against the great Oilers team. Foret forget
Speaker 1: that was a great day for Frank Reich. I love
Speaker 1: that he called Kirk Cousins this week to talk about
Speaker 1: it and say, like, use this for good essentially. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, people still come up to me and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a great example to talk to to other
Speaker 1: people about like never give up in life. And uh,
Speaker 1: you think Cousins will do that too. I think he
Speaker 1: seems like he's not gonna use it. I could see
Speaker 1: him speaking at like youth ministry camps. Yea, I said
Speaker 1: that that's why he called him. Is that, um, he
Speaker 1: knows Kirk has a strong Christian faith. Not Ny said it.
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's exactly what the right right as well.
Speaker 1: I am curious about this matchup though for Kirk Kirk
Speaker 1: versus the Blitz, his numbers are terrible this year. They
Speaker 1: haven't been throughout his career like most veteran quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: can usually figure things out, but I think according to PFF,
Speaker 1: he's like third worst quarterback in the league against the Blitz.
Speaker 1: Against a heavy blitz team which suddenly has two great
Speaker 1: edge rushers in Thibodeaux and Ocelari who has really popped that.
Speaker 1: Both of those guys are playing their best ball right now.
Speaker 1: So you add that to a heavy blitz team against Kirk,
Speaker 1: you could have some wild stuff. The one thing is
Speaker 1: they play a ton of man coverage, and Cousins has
Speaker 1: and Justin Jefferson has been dominant against everything, but they
Speaker 1: have dominated man coverage, so that I think if you can,
Speaker 1: can you somehow offset the blitz somehow in the rush,
Speaker 1: Like I just think it's a it's a game where
Speaker 1: you can it can be who they are. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's interesting because the Giants we talked about the Vikings
Speaker 1: tennant oh and one score games and Giants are eight
Speaker 1: two and one, so they've been very good in these
Speaker 1: types of games too. And I just god, this one
Speaker 1: is like one of the hardest games to figure out
Speaker 1: because I could definitely see a scenario where the Vikings
Speaker 1: run the Giants out of the building because I still
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe their offense is the best group in
Speaker 1: the games. And and Jefferson and and cousins. I think
Speaker 1: they're looking to set records of Jefferson breaking the all
Speaker 1: time receiving record. He'll have another big game, I think here.
Speaker 1: I do think that this is a game where the
Speaker 1: Vikings take care of business, but I can't say that
Speaker 1: the other side. And it's certainly not locking it up
Speaker 1: because if this game, there's also a coin flip where
Speaker 1: this game goes down to the less possession, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of what both these teams do that even if
Speaker 1: you go back through like the last three seasons, the
Speaker 1: Vikings lead the league in one score games. This year's
Speaker 1: obviously been like the waterfall, but like they've been this
Speaker 1: team in a weird way, it's like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not hanging around waiting for the Minnesota blow out
Speaker 1: to happen. They can clinch this week too. The Giants
Speaker 1: is crazy. They can they get a win, uh and
Speaker 1: then either a Washington loss I believe are a Lions loss,
Speaker 1: and they're in if they get two of those. Those teams.
Speaker 1: I also want to see just quickly in this matchup
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, because I think he's playing well right now
Speaker 1: and he's had a lot of tough matchups. He's working
Speaker 1: so hard to get what he gets. You don't have
Speaker 1: to work that hard against this Vikings defense. I think
Speaker 1: you could have a nice little Daniel Jones game. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we will roll on. All right,
Speaker 1: Welcome back the Week six team. Look how it goes,
Speaker 1: Look how it goes. Long season, But all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: here we are on the precipice of the postseason. Let's
Speaker 1: keep rolling. Six snakes to Zeuser and it's time now
Speaker 1: for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: drive friends into the woods of Foxborough to check in
Speaker 1: on the New England Patriots seven and seven, coming off
Speaker 1: one of the worst losses you will ever ever see. Um.
Speaker 1: You kind of forget because of the Chandler Jones lateral
Speaker 1: thing um that they had a seven point lead uh
Speaker 1: in this game prior to that, and Derek Carr and
Speaker 1: the Raiders were facing a fourth and ten deep in
Speaker 1: their own end on that drive that led to the
Speaker 1: touchdown pass um. So that is a backbreaking uh loss
Speaker 1: potentially for a team that's really feels like it's been
Speaker 1: on the ropes, perhaps internally with all the um consternation
Speaker 1: about the offensive scheme and the coaching and where mac
Speaker 1: Jones had had his at and speaking of mac Jones, um,
Speaker 1: this was interesting. On Wednesday, a reporter had a question about,
Speaker 1: you know, the the near future, not the long term future,
Speaker 1: the near future, the quarterback position in New England with
Speaker 1: mac here a quarterback to the three weeks. Let's start
Speaker 1: a BA since mode, I don't even know what I said.
Speaker 1: What do you say something about Cincinnati? We're just trying
Speaker 1: to beat Cincinnati? Is the plan is to beat Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I wish our listeners could could see that, because first
Speaker 1: of all, Bill looks like he's good. He's taking care
Speaker 1: of himself. The aren't He's showing off the biceps. He
Speaker 1: actually had a big smile right before that question. Then
Speaker 1: the question comes out and his eyebrows a raised. He
Speaker 1: was totally surprised by it, and then total grimace answering, there,
Speaker 1: I've heard that Robert Kraft is kind of a Simmons
Speaker 1: throughout there. I don't know if this is accurate, but
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons through out there that like Kraft was a
Speaker 1: zappy guy that he's been pushing for Zapp. Bill doesn't
Speaker 1: care about that though. But well, here's interesting. I think
Speaker 1: I talked to Ian about this because before Ian joined
Speaker 1: NFL Network rap sheet, he covered the Patriots for the
Speaker 1: Boston Herald, and there's a whole hierarchy. In fact, they
Speaker 1: did talk to him about it. I found it fascinating,
Speaker 1: a hierarchy in terms of like who gets to ask
Speaker 1: Bill the type of questions when Bill kind of lets
Speaker 1: you into the circle, in terms of giving you a
Speaker 1: real answer or some type of stock answer, or ignoring
Speaker 1: you outright, or maybe the pasts media guy has to
Speaker 1: rough you up a little bit, not physically, but perhaps
Speaker 1: we don't know where those ball boys are, for instance,
Speaker 1: pr guy under the pike, perhaps from the flame um.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm what I was taken by there is
Speaker 1: like who asked the question? Was that guy allowed to
Speaker 1: ask the question? Did Bill's eyebrows rays because he was
Speaker 1: surprised that guy asked the question when he's not allowed
Speaker 1: or was it a guy that is allowed to ask
Speaker 1: that question? And he was just surprised he got it
Speaker 1: in that moment, but when you just clear all that
Speaker 1: other stuff out. The question was his first round pick
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one, Mac Jones, who went to
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year and won ten games as a rookie,
Speaker 1: the quarterback for the last three games of the season,
Speaker 1: and the coach's answer was, we're trying to beat the
Speaker 1: Bengals this week. I mean, like, first of all, I
Speaker 1: don't know that reporter may not exist at this point,
Speaker 1: depending on where they are in this hierarchy. Um. I
Speaker 1: just think that if you look at what's happened, because
Speaker 1: these this Patriots team that is the scoring the second
Speaker 1: fewest points of the Bill Belichick era New England going
Speaker 1: back to two thousand, Um, they've looked bad. Um they
Speaker 1: instead of though, what's so different to me is that
Speaker 1: Matt Jones, unlike previous quarterbacks, has been so emotive and
Speaker 1: there's been these been these spats in these incidents, and
Speaker 1: it's so clear how frustrated he is and he's not
Speaker 1: hiding it at all. And in fact, I think most
Speaker 1: people will look at mac Jones and say, we're siding
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones here. Yeah, maybe you don't want your
Speaker 1: quarterback blowing up on the sideline emotionally week after week.
Speaker 1: But he seems to be in a really bad situation,
Speaker 1: in a fix um, in a Patriots coaching staff that
Speaker 1: to me feels out of control. I can never remember
Speaker 1: feeling this way about a New England team, but they
Speaker 1: feel out of control, and it's like happening on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis. So I would not be surprised in the
Speaker 1: Bailey's happy world of things that Bill belitics, like, get
Speaker 1: this thing out of my face. At some point, I'm
Speaker 1: just not convinced mac Jones when we're sitting here in
Speaker 1: April May June, I'm not convinced mac Jones is even
Speaker 1: on this roster. I'm just not right, Spicy Mark here.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, that that you're right. The ending
Speaker 1: overshadowed everything that went on in that game, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like mac Jones had one of the worst games
Speaker 1: of his career. And then you rewatch it and so
Speaker 1: many of the routes are just terribly run. The spacing.
Speaker 1: Greg Bdard's been sending this out where there's like three
Speaker 1: guys clustered together like routinely, the situational football where you
Speaker 1: can't score from the one you have so many pre
Speaker 1: snap penalties. They lost that game because of how they
Speaker 1: handled the end of half an end of game situations.
Speaker 1: They are so sloppy. I I heard Bill talking about
Speaker 1: the Bengals earlier this week. We have the clipping. It's short,
Speaker 1: but I think the Bengals are the type of team
Speaker 1: that that Bill Belichick wishes he was, play a clean game,
Speaker 1: so make air and everything, so do over and over.
Speaker 1: In this press conference, he kept saying how they make
Speaker 1: they're clean, they don't lose games. They let other teams
Speaker 1: lose games. And I think he knows in his heart
Speaker 1: that used to be us and listening to and I
Speaker 1: listened to his press conference because I started thinking we
Speaker 1: could be running out of Bill Belichick press conferences here
Speaker 1: as a member of the Patriots, I think this is
Speaker 1: a real thing. I think one is telling all these
Speaker 1: media members, let's name him, Peter King, Albert brier Uh,
Speaker 1: Karen Grugi in the Boston Herald, Tom Curran, Greg Bdard.
Speaker 1: I think that's it has floated out some sort of
Speaker 1: version of if Bill Belichick doesn't make changes to the
Speaker 1: offensive staff and or the front office because he's just
Speaker 1: trying to do everything, then there could be a change.
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good guess where that information is
Speaker 1: coming from. It's coming from the highest parts of the
Speaker 1: Patriots organization. Yeah, but at the same time, like you
Speaker 1: trying to smoke Bill out through the media, that seems
Speaker 1: like a bad idea to plan be to hand it
Speaker 1: off to Steve Belichick. No, well, let me just say
Speaker 1: that Bill's plan. I don't think that we could say
Speaker 1: that's coming from upstairs. And maybe it is, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure that Bill feels probably the same way after this
Speaker 1: is gone, that he needs to make changes to his
Speaker 1: coaching staff that he needs to obviously get the offense
Speaker 1: in a much better place, a healthier place. They gotta
Speaker 1: clean things up and become a more organized operation. Thought
Speaker 1: it was a real microcosm of their struggles in the
Speaker 1: second quarter against Vegas. They had a first and goal
Speaker 1: at the Vegas too and uh, I think Mac missed
Speaker 1: what should have been a touchdown. Uh. And then they
Speaker 1: uh he hits a touchdown, but they gets blown dead
Speaker 1: because the sideline I think it was Patricia of course,
Speaker 1: calls time out and wipes out the touchdown. H. Then
Speaker 1: they have another incompletion, then they have to call another
Speaker 1: time out. And now they burned two time outs in
Speaker 1: like twenty seconds, and then on fourth and goal from
Speaker 1: the Vegas one false start backing up six yards, they
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. It's like Patriots fans know exactly
Speaker 1: the dry I'm talking about, because that is just like,
Speaker 1: why aren't they efficient? Why aren't they well put together?
Speaker 1: And it all set up for obviously the cataclysmic event
Speaker 1: with Chandler Jones. But this stuff has been going on
Speaker 1: all year. Yeah, go ahead, well, no, it's good. I
Speaker 1: mean that. I think if if the Texans are doing
Speaker 1: what you just describe, burning time outs left and right penalties,
Speaker 1: your coach calling a time out to or to essentially
Speaker 1: remove a touchdown, then you have the killer penalty on
Speaker 1: John Smith's like, um, excuse me, we'd be frying other teams.
Speaker 1: But because it's new England has been this resistance to
Speaker 1: be like, no, they probably have their house in order.
Speaker 1: It's just these confusing too, because their defense is excellently coached.
Speaker 1: Their number two in d v O A with a
Speaker 1: very sketchy like group of cornerbacks and using guys that
Speaker 1: linebackers coach castaways right, and and like now that Barmore's
Speaker 1: back I'm very curious to see if this Bengals offensive line,
Speaker 1: which has been better this year, holds up against U. J.
Speaker 1: Barmore in Jude, and they like they have a better
Speaker 1: defense than they had a year ago if they had
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel. Still, I believe this team is ten and
Speaker 1: five because they would just would be they would just
Speaker 1: be a mediocre offense and that'd be good enough. They've
Speaker 1: only played fourteen games where they get credit with nine five.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him nine and five. Um, the Bengals side
Speaker 1: of this, this has been my pick season. My lock
Speaker 1: season has been very similar to the Dallas Cowboys season.
Speaker 1: Started out with a ton of promise and almost juggernaut like,
Speaker 1: and then in the last like month or so, it's
Speaker 1: just like it's not a total collapse, but things just
Speaker 1: don't feel right. You're just not in the right group.
Speaker 1: And I've realized, what I think i've realized here, what
Speaker 1: I hope I've realized here is one of the things
Speaker 1: i'm doing. I'm not locking good teams or teams I
Speaker 1: feel good about. So I'm gonna lock a team I
Speaker 1: feel good about. The Cincinnati Bengals go into New England
Speaker 1: and taking care of a Patriots team that just feels
Speaker 1: like it's in all sorts of dire straits. Give me
Speaker 1: the team that's well coached, that's getting guys back healthy,
Speaker 1: that has Joe Burrow involved, and they they they believe
Speaker 1: they could be the number one seed in this a
Speaker 1: f C. So they are not gonna lay down up there.
Speaker 1: They take care of business. Look at how like from
Speaker 1: I think we're Belichick. You know we've and Greg, I
Speaker 1: know you've not been huge on on Zach Taylor, but
Speaker 1: like on defense, for instance, the way that they adjusted
Speaker 1: against the Bucks, right, they're really they do. I can
Speaker 1: see why belichicks into it. And to me, that spoke
Speaker 1: who like that spoke to who the Bengals are like
Speaker 1: other teams, Like you question yourself, you fall into a pit.
Speaker 1: You allow the Bucks to play the best offense they
Speaker 1: have all year in that half, and they turn around
Speaker 1: and completely erased him. I mean, they made life so
Speaker 1: difficult for Brady. So I like this lock a lot
Speaker 1: for you. This was my lock, and then I just
Speaker 1: felt what we do, see what we do with with
Speaker 1: Greg with locks, it's all this like the endless like
Speaker 1: stuff questioning, and you know, it's kind of like I'm
Speaker 1: just watched Godfather with my you know, the lock father
Speaker 1: watches The Godfather with my parents and children. They were
Speaker 1: in bed. Michael goes to Italy after shooting the the
Speaker 1: Lieutenant and falls in love with an Italian woman. Knock
Speaker 1: it works and get they get married in tragedy. I
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil this, but tragedy ends that union.
Speaker 1: Michael comes back to America and reunites with Kay Adams,
Speaker 1: no relation to the football analyst host, and marries her.
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel. I feel like my lock
Speaker 1: for Greg. Greg said, do you know you want to
Speaker 1: lock up the Mangles and come with me? I am
Speaker 1: the Italian woman that you'll leave and you go back
Speaker 1: to America and okay, but you're not truly in love
Speaker 1: with your luck. Your true love is the Bengals. Your
Speaker 1: true luck loves the Bengals. And instead you go home
Speaker 1: and you you go with the teacher back in America,
Speaker 1: and you don't truly love. Okay. That's if somebody followed that,
Speaker 1: that's good. There were some strange turns there, but I
Speaker 1: did follow it. I think, yeah, it just feels it
Speaker 1: feels wrong to lock against your your own team. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a woman, and I liked it would
Speaker 1: be I would be surprised, it would be surprised by
Speaker 1: the way that that was the Sunday Dry presented, Sundry
Speaker 1: presented by they got their money's worth it all right? Interesting, Greg,
Speaker 1: your final pick of the draft where already at my
Speaker 1: final pick? I'll take Seahawks Chiefs. Oh, we got the
Speaker 1: prime ting gaginst that's what it is. Uh, Seahawks Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Fun game, a lot of points, love the points, love
Speaker 1: the over love Geno Smith getting back on track here
Speaker 1: against this Chief's defense. I think this Chief's defense is
Speaker 1: very vulnerable. I know, I know Tyler Locketts out and
Speaker 1: that's massive, and um Walker ken Walker looks like he
Speaker 1: might be out too. So the Seahawks are. They do
Speaker 1: have some issues. And yet I feel like Gino is
Speaker 1: gonna play a clean game because I just don't think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Tea don't have their most reliable wide receiver
Speaker 1: and the running backs out, and their defense can't play
Speaker 1: totally compromised. Gino has to make every play to save
Speaker 1: this team, but I feel good about his chances in this.
Speaker 1: I don't trust this Chief's defense. I think they've shown
Speaker 1: some vulnerabilities are playing a lot of rookies on the
Speaker 1: back end. I think the Chiefs are gonna score a lot.
Speaker 1: And so then Gino, who made his first Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: on pretty cool. That is very cool, pretty incredible career
Speaker 1: shurt around. Let's let's just say what it is. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be stuck in a position to score. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the defense is also going to have to play in
Speaker 1: this game, and I would put the over under for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs scoring around thirty five points. I'm with you
Speaker 1: and like I, the Geno Smith story has been awesome. Um, Greg,
Speaker 1: that's a victory for you coming out of the summer.
Speaker 1: But I would say that if you look at his
Speaker 1: metrics since we gate, there's a couple of things that
Speaker 1: are concerning his passing grade. And passing grade is what
Speaker 1: it is, but it's gone from fourth to UM since Yeah,
Speaker 1: But actually it's more like I think it's PF passing grade. Actually,
Speaker 1: big time throw rate has gone from third, which was
Speaker 1: so visible from third to UM. Turnover worthy plays have
Speaker 1: gone from twenty three most to ninth most so in
Speaker 1: every I mean, those last two categories matter a lot,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I think a part of it is
Speaker 1: environment because the running game has dried up, um their
Speaker 1: defense has put him in a tough situation. Things were
Speaker 1: really good around Gino before, but now they're not, and
Speaker 1: it's like, who is Gino when things around them aren't working.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks who have to a decision to make, they're
Speaker 1: seeing all sides of this now in terms of what
Speaker 1: they want their quarterback position in the future that maybe
Speaker 1: just in time. It's not a shot on Gino, but
Speaker 1: it's like he's not going to carry your team when
Speaker 1: you when you need him. So maybe there's a young
Speaker 1: guy in the draft and you have a top pick
Speaker 1: that can be that guy. It's just something to think
Speaker 1: about before you pay thirty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: He needs more time, and I think this is the
Speaker 1: game if you're a Seahawks fan. Hopefully he gets it
Speaker 1: because they're they're a vertical offense. They run routes down
Speaker 1: the field that need time to develop, and he hasn't
Speaker 1: had that time. Also recently, I do kind of look
Speaker 1: at this Chief's team. They're in a weird spot because
Speaker 1: they might be the one seed and yet they I
Speaker 1: think they have some pretty identifiable issues on this team.
Speaker 1: Number one turnovers one of the league leaders and turning
Speaker 1: the ball over minus six on the season. Now, that's
Speaker 1: that's uh. As I wrote in The Power Rings, a
Speaker 1: puzzling data point for an eleven and three Super Bowl contenders,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun balls. I think Martin Marcus
Speaker 1: Fould this scantling just in general is a problem because
Speaker 1: he's so unreliable that he'll make great plays and he'll
Speaker 1: kill you twice a week or like that turns into
Speaker 1: a turnover. It's a huge drop. I think the rookie
Speaker 1: cornerbacks which I mentioned, and then maybe a little like
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is still playing like he doesn't have Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan as its quarterback. That they went into overtime in
Speaker 1: that game, in part because he's setting up for a
Speaker 1: fifty one yard field goal at the end, in part
Speaker 1: because they don't go for a fourth and two on
Speaker 1: the eight yard line. It's like Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You really don't have to run it three times or
Speaker 1: throw little screens to set up Bucker, like show some aggression.
Speaker 1: I mean, like also in the past you could count
Speaker 1: on Harrison Bucker to not miss an extra point and
Speaker 1: that's okay though that's it's such as the same from
Speaker 1: another angle, Butcker's Butcker's in a slump, and it's I
Speaker 1: think some of these great offenses when you can't rely
Speaker 1: on your kicker like you got he'll probably we have, um,
Speaker 1: we have this guy gets it, which is one of
Speaker 1: our great recurring series. We really need it. We we
Speaker 1: dial it up, we dial it up. This is another
Speaker 1: one because I like that it's assesslerism from another angle
Speaker 1: with Mark. Sea's pretty good. More it's typically says like
Speaker 1: Greg is corrected, but what he just said, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to try to counter it with another factory. He
Speaker 1: maybe I don't think that Greg was wrong. I just
Speaker 1: think back again the reason the term exists. It's from
Speaker 1: another angle. We could say that Harrison, Butcker is not
Speaker 1: the guy you've relied on in the past. Right now,
Speaker 1: Why is he slumping? He's had some injuries this season
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm gonna kill them another show. It's
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of going a lot of different directions. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: that's all right, let's keep moving. Mark, you are up,
Speaker 1: my friend. Well, I have no choices. There's I have
Speaker 1: two picks in those two games left, so I guess
Speaker 1: I'll just like toy with you, which one I which
Speaker 1: one I picked first? I'm gonna go Falcons at ravensting
Speaker 1: how we're hanging on what you choose, but we we've
Speaker 1: heard and I do like power. Uh this Raven's team
Speaker 1: you said it before. I don't know, like, uh, how
Speaker 1: I keep hearing like they're in trouble? Am I supposed
Speaker 1: to be excited about this Ravens team right now? It's
Speaker 1: just like Jackson. I keep hearing that too, and like
Speaker 1: they I know Lamar is like obviously a complete difference
Speaker 1: maker at his heights, but their offense was a problem before.
Speaker 1: You your tight end leads, your leads your team and
Speaker 1: receiving Last week, you know, you had seventeen completions, like
Speaker 1: half of them went to Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely and
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver. Uh, Devin Duverns out, Rashod Bateman's out. Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins is the new guy you're focusing on. He currently
Speaker 1: ranks seventy second in yards per route and eighties second
Speaker 1: and catch rates. So I'm not sure what you're hoping
Speaker 1: he's gonna come in and do. I think your your
Speaker 1: anchor is just your defense and you hope that you
Speaker 1: know you know what you're getting Desmond Ritter, who is
Speaker 1: totally wet behind the ears. And if you can shut
Speaker 1: down the ground game with Tyler al Geer and Cordarold
Speaker 1: Patterson and they they've got the guys to do it
Speaker 1: because I think they've got the best two linebackers playing
Speaker 1: together right now in the game, and Patrick Queen and
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith interior linebackers. And like you, I don't see
Speaker 1: any reason you don't win this necessary leap. But I
Speaker 1: think teams are gonna keep it tight because the Ravens
Speaker 1: are good for about ten to thirteen points a week
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, do I thought that. I'm surprise
Speaker 1: the Ravens are favored by seven. They are. They're begging
Speaker 1: you to take the Falcons, which I never like it
Speaker 1: when they're begging you. But that's that's people not watching
Speaker 1: the Ravens the last couple of weeks. I think that's
Speaker 1: the defense. I think them that's them thinking the Falcons
Speaker 1: are now either the worst team in the league or
Speaker 1: one of the three three or four. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'd be I'm already noivous if I'm a
Speaker 1: Ravens fan. But a couple of weeks ago they circled
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve um Lamar's return and the fact that he's
Speaker 1: not going to be back Pittsburgh and Cincinnati next. Is
Speaker 1: this going to be one of those injuries where keeps
Speaker 1: on getting backed up and then we don't see him
Speaker 1: again and they fall it Are we seeing? Are we
Speaker 1: seeing basically a rerun of last year? Right now? It
Speaker 1: feels like and I mean it's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: similar things going on. Maybe the defense is a lot
Speaker 1: of the difference is last year they needed wins to
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. They're in with a win this week.
Speaker 1: Don't I get it, but they have three weeks. It
Speaker 1: just feels like a ship coming into shore where you
Speaker 1: climb a board and everyone on board is dead. It's
Speaker 1: like something happened to the ship out at seat, Like
Speaker 1: that's what the Ravens feel like. To me, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna float into the playoff harbor, but like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what happened. I Also, I think they're as unlucky as
Speaker 1: any level disaster. They were finally getting healthier. Other than Lamar,
Speaker 1: they actually had a lot of players back. Let's go
Speaker 1: through who they've lost, just in the last week, not
Speaker 1: counting Lamar Klais Campbell my choice for their best player
Speaker 1: on their defense having an incredible season, Marcus Peters, starting cornerback,
Speaker 1: not playing in this game, and then you mentioned Duverney
Speaker 1: is out for the season with a broken foot from practice.
Speaker 1: That's just the last week. Those are three key players
Speaker 1: and they should win this game, and they they are
Speaker 1: obviously they've been through the wars and the coaching staff
Speaker 1: is gonna be hammering into their heads they need to
Speaker 1: get this game because if you don't, you're nine and six,
Speaker 1: and then you got Pittsburgh at home, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. That's gonna be a tough game. And then
Speaker 1: you're at Cincinnati and they might have a lot to
Speaker 1: play for in them and they beat Cincinnati, But like,
Speaker 1: how different are those two teams since that Sunday night
Speaker 1: game there? For for a team that's nine and five,
Speaker 1: it feels very precarious for them right now. This is
Speaker 1: such a huge game in their season, and I think
Speaker 1: they'll respond and they'll win, but it's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: like their team ten. And you know what, even if
Speaker 1: they get I just like their trajectory to me, it
Speaker 1: is like you're gonna lose a playoff game, have a
Speaker 1: nice time. I think they're not going on a three
Speaker 1: game run with Lamar Jackson. You got Lamar and a
Speaker 1: good defense. If you get a little healthier, I think
Speaker 1: you got a chance and good running game. They also
Speaker 1: get a little break here if Desmond Ritter doesn't get
Speaker 1: more comfortable as a passer, and maybe he will improve
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks. This is a nice matchup
Speaker 1: for their defense and they should know no matter what happens.
Speaker 1: This is to your point from another angle with Mark Seler.
Speaker 1: Uh Dan Hans is sitting in this week. Um, they
Speaker 1: need to attack that offense in the off season and
Speaker 1: they gotta make that thing. They gotta get that thing
Speaker 1: up to stuff. They got to get it up to
Speaker 1: snuff against the likes of Cincinnati. And can you give
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson like two great wide receivers that you're going
Speaker 1: to get the same thing that you get in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: or let's try somewhere else. Let's try it. What was
Speaker 1: your show again? Backdoor? My um? Backdoor wrong that I
Speaker 1: like that? That one's on after midnight. It's for different. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's take a break now, let's do one
Speaker 1: last game and then, oh yeah, we got one more game.
Speaker 1: In fact, if you'd be so kind, um, and I
Speaker 1: know nothing is kind when it comes to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Right now to handle the last game, and I draft
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans at the Tennessee Titans. Yes, Houston has
Speaker 1: one win. But here's an interesting stat by the way,
Speaker 1: is the Titans in a most likely non Rhyan Tannehill
Speaker 1: world the rest of the season. Um, the Texans have
Speaker 1: either been ahead or tied in seven games this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: they only have one in but this is not a
Speaker 1: This is not a typical you know, one in fifteen
Speaker 1: type team or now one and one. If you, you know,
Speaker 1: let him hang around, it gets dangerous. I know you're
Speaker 1: nervous about this game. With Malik Wills. It has to
Speaker 1: be multiplied by seven. At least seven, that's what number
Speaker 1: he wears. A good call, though, center Ben Jones, dealing
Speaker 1: with a concussion, might miss the game, right guarden Ate
Speaker 1: Davis probably will miss the game. So the Titans down
Speaker 1: to three backup offensive lineman plus Malik Willis. We'll see
Speaker 1: if Traylan Burks is back. We still don't really know. Jeez,
Speaker 1: that was. That's a tough concussion. It looks like I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm picking games here, I think I
Speaker 1: would pick the Texans. They've been really competitive and their
Speaker 1: last two the Titans aren't gonna have a ninety plus
Speaker 1: yard drive. I don't think with Malik Willis to go
Speaker 1: win the game. They definitely don't have Patrick Mahomes. They
Speaker 1: don't even have Derrick McKinnon. Now, Derrick Henry is the
Speaker 1: one hope for the Titans in this game. If Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry does what he's done to Houston the last five
Speaker 1: times he's played them, you need the two other yard
Speaker 1: game again here, you need such if they've been different
Speaker 1: defense radars that too. So you're down three offensive line
Speaker 1: or four defensive starters and the top swing back up.
Speaker 1: That's the factories on fire. It's a different team this.
Speaker 1: I am picking the Texans in this game. UM on
Speaker 1: game debut for instance, people to check that out on
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, will be here and spoiled. What you're gonna
Speaker 1: do though, this is this is it's on NFL dot com,
Speaker 1: slash game, so many things to promote. Doesn't change anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I never changed. I don't really change to pick.
Speaker 1: I stay tuned to see who I picked. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I feel strongly that I might surprise you what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. Maybe I will change it by then if
Speaker 1: something crazy. I haven't chosen the Texans to win a
Speaker 1: game all year, but they want in Tennessee and that's
Speaker 1: worked out. They want in Tennis to do something I've
Speaker 1: not done all year. On NFL Game Friday, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for the offseason. I'm gonna go to Showman school
Speaker 1: with just come to our heart. They've been playing better,
Speaker 1: so I looked. I looked at d v o A
Speaker 1: for the four game losing streak that Tennessee has been on.
Speaker 1: I guess it shouldn't be that big of a shock,
Speaker 1: but they are by far the worst team in the
Speaker 1: NFL over those four games in terms of offensive and
Speaker 1: defensive fishing. See, they're not doing anything well. The name
Speaker 1: of the show, Yeah, I got the name of Mark
Speaker 1: and I show. It's called the Showman. Show Man with
Speaker 1: a comment there it can we get that on the
Speaker 1: lower throat at some point, so I can just see
Speaker 1: it because I think it's gonna sing. I have to
Speaker 1: have to tell you one thing. By the way, it'll
Speaker 1: be more funny to damn than anyone else on screen
Speaker 1: and off The Showman show comm U man, I'm on
Speaker 1: a roll when it comes to one aspect of this show.
Speaker 1: Um I have, I'm are gonna do it. No, I
Speaker 1: have another guy that I have. Yeah, well, the processing
Speaker 1: is gonna take us deep into way. Why wait another
Speaker 1: week if we're already talking deep spring Chicko con Quo,
Speaker 1: he's my new guy. Wait, that was one of my
Speaker 1: guys earlier, that guy Conflict Graver was there. Definitely shouted
Speaker 1: him out. One of my guys who doesn't love an
Speaker 1: Let's go back and let's go back and check. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a case for Ted Becker. I think he
Speaker 1: can teach, even if great was taking forty seven guys.
Speaker 1: So it's like there's some element of like maybe the
Speaker 1: whole thing they got to build the whole plane out
Speaker 1: of a con turn the whole offense into You said that,
Speaker 1: I'm just denying that maybe maybe Ted would come up
Speaker 1: with an ill from a but he's also extremely passionate
Speaker 1: about his job, and I know we'll have this. You
Speaker 1: have the graphic, can we see what it looks like
Speaker 1: the Showman show Man. That's pretty good. It's perfect, pretty good,
Speaker 1: coming soon. We actually should make that am It looks
Speaker 1: um when you see it, you just can visualize the
Speaker 1: show in text that way that we have to actually
Speaker 1: do that show in the off season. All right, it's going,
Speaker 1: it will come, and is Greg the guest, and then
Speaker 1: we kind of we sort of teach Greg. We give
Speaker 1: him some pointers. It's almost like a Ted talk. And
Speaker 1: I'm in the audience. Yeah, it's audience, you and me
Speaker 1: on a stage. We'll figure out where and then it's
Speaker 1: just a one man audience and it's Greg. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it's just us just espousing. Maybe Urban room too, we
Speaker 1: go back to I think that goes well, we can
Speaker 1: they let us. Maybe the show Man is from the
Speaker 1: Bourbon Room on January and you're in your Hollywood Nights
Speaker 1: jeans and were But I think this show is why
Speaker 1: we're hosting that show, because we're just coming up with
Speaker 1: richer ideas for that show. Even in the well, Greg's
Speaker 1: quietly listening and sort of just taking it in spun
Speaker 1: like a lot of notes. Honestly, Dan, you're on fire.
Speaker 1: You got wins Marks, win Mark's old football magazines from
Speaker 1: another angle and the Showman Showman all and don't forget
Speaker 1: about back door wrong or wrong after after dark. And
Speaker 1: from another angle, we can throw that in his sad.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm building on an entire program a network.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. They'll they might want all this
Speaker 1: for NFL Plus in the offseason. Oh god, alright, well
Speaker 1: that race. No, just I'll be compensated if I'm launching
Speaker 1: a like a sub network with all his programming. Well,
Speaker 1: you sound like you're using a lot of my man
Speaker 1: hours too, I'll be I hope you're planning to pay
Speaker 1: me as well. And let's see what Ted Baxter does
Speaker 1: or whatever his name is, Ted Bank. Well, let's start
Speaker 1: with giving the man respect. He had the flu three
Speaker 1: Ted Becker, he was a great He does a great
Speaker 1: job up there in the office in the corporate Uh,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and hit all these other games
Speaker 1: that right here we go. We did the draft first
Speaker 1: this week because a lot of these games are games.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Raiders. Uh, six and eight at
Speaker 1: the Steelers. This is Friday night. This is Christmas Eve night.
Speaker 1: So if you're not busy on Christmas Eve, you have
Speaker 1: football to watch. And um man, I know what the
Speaker 1: Raiders fans are thinking, speaking of like Charlie Brown and
Speaker 1: the football being pulled on them. The Raiders are thinking
Speaker 1: after everything that's happened this season, after that remarkable comeback
Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots, with the a f C playoff field,
Speaker 1: the wild card field a little wonky right now, and
Speaker 1: there's just a sliver of hope they're gonna ruin my
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. That's what they're gonna do. That's what the
Speaker 1: Raiders fans are thinking right now and yet, and this
Speaker 1: is why earlier in the in the season, a few
Speaker 1: weeks back, I was kind of pumping up the Raiders
Speaker 1: every time they play a team, I'm like, I feel
Speaker 1: like they have a good chance to win this game.
Speaker 1: And I feel this way again against the Steelers. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a tough game in Pittsburgh and primetime. Um,
Speaker 1: you're you're shaking your head, Mark, and I want to
Speaker 1: know why, because I'll tell you why. I do believe
Speaker 1: they have a chance to stack another win. Here while
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. And first of all, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start right here. I'm switching my lock to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: WHOA I like that? I'll tell you why you like it?
Speaker 1: This is the the anniversary of the amount kill It reception.
Speaker 1: Franco Harris just passed away this week. You try to
Speaker 1: tell me that when you go to this stadium that
Speaker 1: this place is not going to be absolutely totally on fire.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is O N six in games when it's
Speaker 1: less than thirty seven degrees, it's gonna be the most
Speaker 1: nineteen degrees. This is a Raiders go and die spot.
Speaker 1: The Steelers are gonna absolutely celebrate this evening on the Raiders.
Speaker 1: If you throw out that Ravens game, you can't throw
Speaker 1: it out the division game. Though, Steelers are playing great football.
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are vastly superior. They dominated Carolina,
Speaker 1: and I think they can stop a vastly superior I
Speaker 1: think that Steelers win this game handily too. I'm with them.
Speaker 1: I should do not that would be a good showman
Speaker 1: tip that. See, you don't even need the ted talk.
Speaker 1: If you make the move, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a showman yet. I need the class. I
Speaker 1: think this is a team Mike Tomlin want. Though they
Speaker 1: stopped to run well for the most part, they did
Speaker 1: it against Carolina. That's all you need to do against
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I think to make them one dimensional. They
Speaker 1: they want to run the ball, and they've been running
Speaker 1: the ball great, and I think you can do that
Speaker 1: against Vegas. If this, if you had started the season
Speaker 1: like six or seven weeks ago, this is basically what
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin dreamed of. If anything, I'm a little worried
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's coming back into the line up here, because
Speaker 1: I thought that was the best game I've seen out
Speaker 1: of a quarterback last year week, uh, by any court
Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback last week with Mitch robiskuy. I think the
Speaker 1: the floor is higher, but the ceiling is a little
Speaker 1: lower with Kenny Picks. All right, I like, I like
Speaker 1: the things you said. UH like you both said. You
Speaker 1: make a compelling case. I don't think the Steelers are
Speaker 1: vastly superior than the Raiders. I think, uh, they are
Speaker 1: playing much better UM of late, and I think it
Speaker 1: would not surprise me that when the season's over and
Speaker 1: and Tomlin's doing his UM interviewer press conference, if he
Speaker 1: if he calls us, you know, one of the most
Speaker 1: rewarding UH coaching seasons of his career, because as he
Speaker 1: has taken this team that could have easily in the
Speaker 1: post big Ben era with a rookie quarterback and injuries
Speaker 1: and some talent deficiency. Uh, this could have easily been
Speaker 1: a four and thirteen year in Pittsburgh. But instead here
Speaker 1: they are closing strong um and like his losing record thing.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game. I already told you that.
Speaker 1: But then they're going to play a compromise Ravens team
Speaker 1: potentially if Lamar is not back next week. They just
Speaker 1: gotta beat the Browns at home. They're going nine and eight. Basically,
Speaker 1: these two teams, these aren't the old Steelers a lot
Speaker 1: of respect, but what's more steeling I'm saying those opponents are.
Speaker 1: You're not beating the Chiefs and Bills there. These are
Speaker 1: imperfect teams, and it's like, what more? What's more Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin than them finishing nine and eight after all this malarkey.
Speaker 1: So this is an NFL Network exclusive game in NFL Plus,
Speaker 1: and it's an elimination game. It's not the spiciest game
Speaker 1: in the weekend, but the losers out and the winner
Speaker 1: as hope, and the winner doesn't have the craziest amount
Speaker 1: of hope at least going into Christmas. Basically, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta win out and you just gotta hope that a
Speaker 1: f C East teams none of them top nine and
Speaker 1: eight that for the Raiders they are in. If none
Speaker 1: of the a f C East team's top nine and
Speaker 1: eight they win the tiebreakers at nine and eight with
Speaker 1: any of the a f C East teams, It's a
Speaker 1: little wonk ear for the Steelers depending on the types
Speaker 1: of tie breaks, but it's not crazy. Uh. The Steelers
Speaker 1: have one win against the winning team this year was Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: that weird game in Week one that they should have
Speaker 1: lost if Cincinnati hits an extra point um. But still
Speaker 1: their schedule heads the Raiders, who have been tripping over
Speaker 1: themselves all year at Baltimore team and as Mark would say,
Speaker 1: dipped in Chaos and then Cleveland to end the season.
Speaker 1: It's not the easiest close to the season, but totally possible.
Speaker 1: I think there is. Josh Jacobs is gonna be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball against this defense. Is Derek Carr
Speaker 1: have one of those mind numbing interceptions? Possible? Does Davante
Speaker 1: Adams go for eighty yards? That's also possible to me
Speaker 1: in prime time? One of the greats, but you know
Speaker 1: what he can do. That's the thing like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be I see this is twenty four, twenty one Raiders.
Speaker 1: How about seven Steelers the score of the Immaculate Reception.
Speaker 1: Frank o'harris seventy two years old, rest in peace, one
Speaker 1: of the great players of that dynasty era and um
Speaker 1: Um one of the you know, I think it was
Speaker 1: voted by NFL the most memorable play or greatest play
Speaker 1: in NFL history was the Immaculate Reception. And I was
Speaker 1: reading about Frank o'harris. I was surprised to learn that
Speaker 1: they didn't win the Super Bowl the year of the
Speaker 1: Immaculate Reception. I always thought that kind of kick started
Speaker 1: the dynasty was in the middle of it. That was
Speaker 1: in seventy two, I believe, which was the Dolphins perfect season.
Speaker 1: But that was kind of the first taste of magic
Speaker 1: for the organization, which it had been terrible for years
Speaker 1: and years before Bradshaw and everybody arrived. Um and then
Speaker 1: they started winning all those titles. So John Madden coaching
Speaker 1: the Raiders team, it is it is kind of tempting
Speaker 1: to switch over in the lock um, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do that. Instead, I'm going to bring Christmas
Speaker 1: presents to all the boys and girls in the land
Speaker 1: and the Rainmakers coming out in Pittsburgh. Now three points
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve. If you're running short, let's make it
Speaker 1: rain on the fiftieth anniversary of the Immaculate Reception. You
Speaker 1: guys have put a lot on that anniversary. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just that time of year, like maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: get that gift card for that one person, and here
Speaker 1: comes rain Maker. You know you got I was just
Speaker 1: saying how the Raiders fans are flirting with a Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve disaster and Christmas being ruined. Now we got Marx
Speaker 1: lock on the line. We got Greggy and his Rainmaker,
Speaker 1: which I know he's precious to him. There's a lot
Speaker 1: riding on this game all of a sudden, great showmanship.
Speaker 1: You know what you're he's already taking notes. He's not there,
Speaker 1: I mean, not even close, but he is making progress
Speaker 1: by os mosis. Uh, let's head to Christmas Day. Packers
Speaker 1: at Dolphins. Oh, Marky, Marky what I know you despise
Speaker 1: the Packers, but keep an eye on the Packers here
Speaker 1: because if they win this game, they are very much
Speaker 1: alive in the NFC playoff race. They need Rogers said
Speaker 1: it him something I kind of like it because players
Speaker 1: are always like, hey, listen, we just win the next
Speaker 1: game on our schedule and shut up. Um. What what
Speaker 1: he said after Monday Night Football and the win they
Speaker 1: had was over the Rams, was like, listen, we needed
Speaker 1: to win X y Z, and we needed all these
Speaker 1: other things to work out, and so far we've been
Speaker 1: winning the last two weeks and all the things we've
Speaker 1: needed to happen have happened for the most part. So
Speaker 1: I just like a player showing the transparency is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need a big picture thing to come to our way.
Speaker 1: Now here's the question the Dolphins, who shows up here
Speaker 1: for the Dollins because they look so good for large
Speaker 1: stretches of that Bills game, couldn't close it out. Now
Speaker 1: they're at home, they should take care of business. And
Speaker 1: as good as they've been playing, or played on on
Speaker 1: last Saturday against the Bills, they have lost three straight.
Speaker 1: Now in December, Aaron Rodgers also was asked if he
Speaker 1: thought they could run the table, and he said, I do.
Speaker 1: Now we've got to play three better football teams the Dolphins, Vikings,
Speaker 1: and Lions. But I do believe definitely. So you know
Speaker 1: he said that before, but it's like there is maybe
Speaker 1: a turn here with green Bay's like the darkness of
Speaker 1: their season and they seem so lost and things were
Speaker 1: just such a mess that they are probably looking at
Speaker 1: this as a real possibility. Which is it? Which it is?
Speaker 1: And I mean, Miami answered a lot of questions for
Speaker 1: me in that Bills game. It's kind of like one
Speaker 1: of the better losses you could have. I guess it's
Speaker 1: costly to them, but like it changed the narrative on
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Where had they been you know, beaten like
Speaker 1: a drum in Buffalo, it would have been like, maybe
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are just falling off the cliff and we're
Speaker 1: never gonna see that early season version again. Instead, they
Speaker 1: did the opposite. I thought one of the most hopeful things,
Speaker 1: because they've been so uh they've lacked balance, was that
Speaker 1: they were able to run the ball really well, to
Speaker 1: the point where like after what Rahim Suster did against
Speaker 1: Buffalo early, I thought they kind of could have maybe
Speaker 1: used more of that down the stretch. And you are
Speaker 1: dealing with the worst, one of the worst run defenses
Speaker 1: in the league in Green Bay, So do you seek
Speaker 1: that balance? Do you not put it all on Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill and Jail and waddle. Um, I still think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get them every game, but maybe if you can
Speaker 1: run that way, you can keep the ball out of
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers hands. And this is a you know, it's
Speaker 1: also at home. I like that some games can be
Speaker 1: as encouraging as they are frustrating. That's how I classified
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game against the Bills. It's a two parter
Speaker 1: for me now though, so it was like, you showed
Speaker 1: up against Buffalo, didn't close, but you showed up win
Speaker 1: this game at half in primetime against a Green Bay
Speaker 1: team that obviously took a big step back from last year,
Speaker 1: is playing better but not a great team, and the
Speaker 1: losing streak and then basically punch your ticket to the playoffs. Uh.
Speaker 1: In a most likely sense, you'll get to nine and
Speaker 1: six and you should be able to find a way
Speaker 1: to navigate in from that point. Uh. This is another
Speaker 1: big test for the Dolphins for me. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: points in this game. I love like it going over
Speaker 1: because to me, the packers of offense has solved their
Speaker 1: issues like they're back. They there are seventh in the
Speaker 1: league's right now in efficiency over the course of the season.
Speaker 1: The run game is strong, the offensive line is playing well.
Speaker 1: Watson has changed the passing attack. They're not the old Packers.
Speaker 1: They're obviously not as good as they were at you know,
Speaker 1: when Davontae Adams was there. But they're a really good offense.
Speaker 1: And this Dolphins defense has holes you can pick on
Speaker 1: in the back end. They're not great always defending the run.
Speaker 1: And so I think it's back and forth. I like
Speaker 1: Miami better, but and I think the better ground game
Speaker 1: might win both teams. UH might struggle to get off
Speaker 1: the field. Like five points feels like too much. It
Speaker 1: was five points earlier in the week. I think it's
Speaker 1: now four. Either way, I think this is a fun
Speaker 1: little game. This is definitely the best game on Christmas.
Speaker 1: If you're strategizing, this is the best one. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: they could, I would have. I would have flexed this
Speaker 1: game down to the late game. But we'll we'll get
Speaker 1: to it. Um all right, let's hit Broncos. How could
Speaker 1: you not be romantic about football? Member? I agree with that, Yes, producer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you cut that for a job. I'm sure. Just I
Speaker 1: get a lot of questions about that. I think that
Speaker 1: Justin is do you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: address that officially? Because like I I don't know why
Speaker 1: that happened. Half the stuff that happens on the show
Speaker 1: just happens. It's like I was, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Justin's accountability. That's just a does an incredible, incredible job,
Speaker 1: and he shows his value in increasing ways from show
Speaker 1: to show. Thank you. You could say that, I think
Speaker 1: you're saying your job. Yeah. One, Mark's apologizing for letting
Speaker 1: you know how he really felt in that. Now. I
Speaker 1: just think it was the heat of the moment, which
Speaker 1: happens on the show, different than like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: doing some stodgy thing and somebody like we are emotions
Speaker 1: run free here. So markets cut off a lot, and
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut him off with that. Um,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to jump in to say that I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins get right in this one. I'm locking
Speaker 1: up Miami. Where are you in the standings? What are
Speaker 1: the standings? And there is it's hard to see where
Speaker 1: he is. He's so far I am killed. I am
Speaker 1: in last Still uh Nick was the only person who
Speaker 1: missed his lock last week out of all of us.
Speaker 1: So but he's still one game ahead of me, Marks,
Speaker 1: one game ahead of the West Bros. Dan's one game
Speaker 1: ahead of Mark, and Greg is two games ahead of Dan,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of space. I should just bring
Speaker 1: in the trophy for Mark. For Greg at this point, well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weeks something, so I think it's
Speaker 1: not enough runway to catch him at this point. With you,
Speaker 1: I would have said, at some point, are you gonna
Speaker 1: update this tired bit? I like going back. It does
Speaker 1: bother you. So that's why it comes out of a
Speaker 1: few things. Is I've said many times on the show
Speaker 1: one of the things about Greg, and I respect you
Speaker 1: for it. Greg, it's very hard to really get past
Speaker 1: Greg's the shield that and really bother him. But for
Speaker 1: some reason this one does this one. We're like, oh, Greg,
Speaker 1: there's no way you can catch it. You got the
Speaker 1: title every time. Every time he won't show it, but
Speaker 1: you can bother him because the patent Greg move is
Speaker 1: if you get a zinger offic Greg within within fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty minutes, if there's enough time left in the show,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna craft something that sends an arrow
Speaker 1: right through your neck. Oh we have something if Greg,
Speaker 1: if you want to fly that tweet, Oh well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the timing at this point, it's a
Speaker 1: little late. Well, speaking of Showman, you've just announced it. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to submit to the committee. I did
Speaker 1: write a tweet about o'conquo over a month ago, and
Speaker 1: then's just gonna be submitt a to Ted Becker. It's
Speaker 1: up to Ted. I respect. I don't see in there.
Speaker 1: He's my guy though, That's all. It was, just like
Speaker 1: Ted Becker at, uh, that's my guy. Um at outlook
Speaker 1: I believe, I think yeah, like, uh, Ted Becker is
Speaker 1: unpredictable though, so Greg, you're operating logically, and I not
Speaker 1: disagree with your logic. I just think that Ted Brecker,
Speaker 1: Ted Becker is gonna do what Ted Becker needs to do.
Speaker 1: Ted like for all his warts um and obviously, um,
Speaker 1: he hasn't seen his kids in years. Um, he's had
Speaker 1: some issues, um with the law. Um. He is very
Speaker 1: professional suddenly, Yeah, and he takes his job seriously and
Speaker 1: in this world you don't always see that anymore. He's
Speaker 1: not a group thinker. He's gonna look at this through.
Speaker 1: He's not a corporate climber. Like he's like, I know,
Speaker 1: this is my job and it's important. And when I
Speaker 1: see this tweet from Greg, I will factor it in.
Speaker 1: He's also gonna know what Greg is attempting to do there.
Speaker 1: You can't pull one on a fast one on Ted Becker,
Speaker 1: so all right, can trying? Greg Broncos at Rams. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson I believe is back for this game after they
Speaker 1: gave him the the extra week rest after the concussion
Speaker 1: the previous week. H Baker Mayfield still at the quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Rams. His magic war off at lambeau Field
Speaker 1: through for under a hundred and fifty yards in that game.
Speaker 1: Uh So, here we are the middle game. This looked
Speaker 1: like an awesome game Greg back in September, but that's
Speaker 1: not always how it plays out. It is on Nickelodeon
Speaker 1: as well for the kids. My guess is all the
Speaker 1: networks like battled for this game and that on paper
Speaker 1: you we were at wondering before the joy is Tony
Speaker 1: Ron was doing this. I'm just wondering that the paper
Speaker 1: this would be the most watched game of the entire year,
Speaker 1: because I think Christmas a couple of times. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've seen that Courtland Sutton's back rest is back. Baker
Speaker 1: still holds the ball too long. Michael Hoyt is fun
Speaker 1: for the Rams. I think that's all we need. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you were I would just say this game is
Speaker 1: hilarious to me because if back in uh, you know, July,
Speaker 1: you took Sean McVeigh and Nathaniel Hockett into like a
Speaker 1: booth and said, I'm gonna you're gonna forget this, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, what's happening to both
Speaker 1: of your team's um come Christmas weekend when you face
Speaker 1: off on this like Tony Romo Jim Nance game, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a totally failed Russell Wilson, who is
Speaker 1: the most expensive flop job in the NFL, versus Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: who has been with the team for two weeks. You
Speaker 1: would with Mark Seler like, what would Sean mcveigh's head explode?
Speaker 1: And well, by the way, Nathaniel Hackett, you will your
Speaker 1: stock will drop through the floor. This is a breakfast program.
Speaker 1: This is our morning show, flop Jobs over Flapjacks, and
Speaker 1: it's Mark eating Breakfast, which is in its own way
Speaker 1: kind of a show. Everybody wants to see Mark eat,
Speaker 1: and he's just discussing all the things that suck. I
Speaker 1: think That's a good way to start any day too
Speaker 1: for intending. Hey Rams, Rams want to build up like
Speaker 1: the the fan base here and everything. I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of Broncos fans at this game.
Speaker 1: Any any any Rams fans coming to this game, reward
Speaker 1: their loyalty with with a Christmas Day win. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're a Rams fan and you go. Jason Kleinman
Speaker 1: are our producer, just walked in, the one of our
Speaker 1: many just walking in. He's got in with his family.
Speaker 1: What a great Jewish family thing to do on Christmas.
Speaker 1: By the way, go to an NFL game. But any
Speaker 1: fan that's there, nomination, reward them with the win on Christmas.
Speaker 1: Absolutely there it is go fill up so Fi Stadium.
Speaker 1: From another angle, wide put your family through this. But
Speaker 1: that's that's again from another angle. Uh, let's move to
Speaker 1: the late game on Christmas is the six and eight
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh my god, more Buccaneers football at
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, who are starting, I believe Trace McSorley
Speaker 1: because we're getting another Cardinals game on national television here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to talk with those guys in park,
Speaker 1: haven't you Schule made. They made a couple, um, couple
Speaker 1: of gambles. I liked. Someone brought up like the hard
Speaker 1: Knocks thought that Cardinals got all these back end of
Speaker 1: the season games while they're the hard Knocks. We talked
Speaker 1: about that last week. Yeah, which makes sense. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to miss attribute it as you, uh, just
Speaker 1: a theory. But do you think it's like No, I
Speaker 1: think I think you're right. I think you nailed it.
Speaker 1: I kind of stopped watching that show to be honest too,
Speaker 1: and now and I were tracking it now, they're the
Speaker 1: worst team in the league. They would be number thirty
Speaker 1: two right now on a neutral field for me. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess along with along with the defense isn't really
Speaker 1: plain We just called the Falcons. I said bottom three.
Speaker 1: I said at bottom three, I would put Cardinals would
Speaker 1: be an underdog to every team. Yeah. Well, plus just
Speaker 1: everything happening around them is like you want to turn
Speaker 1: your eyes away from it as soon as possible. It's
Speaker 1: no longer fun. Well, it's a TOUGHI and the Buccaneers. Uh.
Speaker 1: That was so many disappointing losses for the Bucks this year.
Speaker 1: I think last week's was the worst, um because it
Speaker 1: was such a tease. They looked so good getting up
Speaker 1: on a great Cincinnati team seventeen nothing and everything was working.
Speaker 1: So for it to kind of absolute snowball, a snowball
Speaker 1: into hell type second half, it just like once again
Speaker 1: reaffirmed to everyone, the fan base, the team, everyone upstairs
Speaker 1: in that building, like we are not very good, Like
Speaker 1: we had a chance. He had a really jump start
Speaker 1: our season and instead it ended in an embarrassing home law.
Speaker 1: So they obviously the schedule works out for them here
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals getting the third string quarterback, um, the
Speaker 1: division sets up for them. There's no team, there's no
Speaker 1: Aguars in this Southern Division making a charge looking to
Speaker 1: steal the division. Just take care of business. And yet
Speaker 1: to the Mark's viewpoint on things, sometimes like does it
Speaker 1: even matter because when this team or whatever teams coming
Speaker 1: out of the South, it's just a countdown to their Uh.
Speaker 1: I did tell you that the NFC South would win
Speaker 1: a home playoff game though, and I think if of
Speaker 1: all those teams, it would be the Bucks because I
Speaker 1: could see them writ well, no I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: to anyone's pleasure. I just could see what I mean,
Speaker 1: But like what I know what's Tom Brady, but like,
Speaker 1: why will this team because because because maybe because things
Speaker 1: were better this season, so weird. So that first half
Speaker 1: of that game, Tony Romo was going crazy about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was too crazy, it was fainted, but
Speaker 1: he was really impressed that they started changing what they
Speaker 1: do offensively, like they're such a static team, and it's
Speaker 1: like like the rest of the NFL will start doing motion,
Speaker 1: let's start doing play action on early downs, let's stop
Speaker 1: running on early downs. And it worked for a half
Speaker 1: and then they had a four turnovers in eleven plays.
Speaker 1: So if they're changing their approach offensively, that could help.
Speaker 1: And then the schedule. Certainly, you can't clench the division
Speaker 1: this week, but you closed with the Panthers and Falcons.
Speaker 1: Can you see them winning three straight games and feeling
Speaker 1: better about themselves? I could. I still need to think
Speaker 1: that will happen to to battle my own point. I
Speaker 1: still think they're the team that, yeah, from an from
Speaker 1: another angle of my own angle. Um I we keep
Speaker 1: saying this is the team that will somehow kind of
Speaker 1: their issues. No, I'm with you, but you can't go
Speaker 1: against your own angle from another angle from my own.
Speaker 1: I just you can though, because it's called it is.
Speaker 1: It is because right, you can call it hypocritical, but
Speaker 1: it's not. You're actually like adding another layer to the show.
Speaker 1: One of the segments of one of the segments of
Speaker 1: the show is Both Sides of the Fence with the
Speaker 1: second SEGM within that show, and uh CBS reported Jonathan
Speaker 1: Jones that the Cardinals are expected to part ways with
Speaker 1: GM Steve Kin in the off season. Well, I know,
Speaker 1: I wonder if you go, if Cliff Kingsbury could be
Speaker 1: one of these kids right of him before the season
Speaker 1: to find out, you know, gonna early jump on the search.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's in Definitely, I wonder if like
Speaker 1: the sensitivity around the time situation will stop them from
Speaker 1: doing anything like that. But the like before the end
Speaker 1: of week eighteen, but they'll say goodbye to Time and
Speaker 1: then what if they kind of want Sean Payton in
Speaker 1: there to work with, Like you guess, say goodbye to
Speaker 1: Time and then you hire a new GM or maybe
Speaker 1: you hire Sean Payton to do it all. Um. But
Speaker 1: I yeah, it does feel like this thing is about
Speaker 1: I hate when these teams higher like Coral Ferry to
Speaker 1: find their new coach. That's always annoying to me. I
Speaker 1: mean we I mean it's at this hasn't been mentioned
Speaker 1: on the show, and I feel like we shouldn't and
Speaker 1: this is probably be the last time we mentioned time.
Speaker 1: Is that the offensive line coach is alleging that he
Speaker 1: didn't do anything because of mistaken identity and he looks
Speaker 1: exactly like Steve Kaim. Where's this? He said that it
Speaker 1: was released respecting a woman as a core value For me,
Speaker 1: the mysterious allegations by the Cardinals are Andre want to
Speaker 1: clear my name, be it a miscommunication or mistaken at
Speaker 1: any of my family, and I will cooperate fully and
Speaker 1: honestly with the NFL Cardinals or any agency to restore
Speaker 1: my reputation. It was a couple of weeks ago, though,
Speaker 1: and then but the time disappears shortly thereafter. Okay, this
Speaker 1: why see? Why is it hard knocks talking about this stuff?
Speaker 1: They have? They have? I have now tracked the last
Speaker 1: two episodes, Greg, but I feel like they've dodged some
Speaker 1: of these issues. I actually watched a couple of ones
Speaker 1: ago to see if you'd get anything extra from Kyler
Speaker 1: the Kyler thing, and I've started fast forward and they
Speaker 1: still didn't give you any insight. It was the point
Speaker 1: of the summertime Hard Knocks. It's it's hope season. There's optimism.
Speaker 1: You cover the team, you cover the underdogs, setbacks, victories.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do in season hard Knocks, I think
Speaker 1: you gotta cover it, Wortz, because you're in your now.
Speaker 1: You're in battle with these teams, and there are in
Speaker 1: the war. There are battles that you win, and there
Speaker 1: are battles that you lose. And if you only cover
Speaker 1: the battles you win and gloss over everything else. Is
Speaker 1: it the best program? That's no, it's not Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: by the New York Times, though obviously so there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's other things going on here. Is that another show
Speaker 1: idea reach out to New York Times? Um No. NFL
Speaker 1: Films has done brilliant work over the years, but there
Speaker 1: are challenges inherent to doing this. I don't even put
Speaker 1: it on HBO. I think it's the team saying like
Speaker 1: we're gonna even though all this is out there, we're
Speaker 1: gonna act like if you're not seeing it on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: Got some tough luck with this team. This would might
Speaker 1: have been the number one team not to follow I
Speaker 1: think you're right about that. Finally, there is a Monday
Speaker 1: night game, Monday Night Football from Lucas Oil Stadium. More
Speaker 1: Cults in prime time, Okay, more Charges in prime time.
Speaker 1: We can live with that. Weird Christian Chargers at Colts
Speaker 1: eight and six Chargers who are in very good position
Speaker 1: now to make the playoffs. In fact, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear any excuses around the charge of this year.
Speaker 1: I know they've they're still missing guys and they're not
Speaker 1: fully hold, but they've gotten guys back there playing much better.
Speaker 1: Of late. Herbert's playing out of his mind now, Mike
Speaker 1: Williams has made a huge difference. They're all the way
Speaker 1: up to number nine and the Dan Hans Power rankings,
Speaker 1: and and here we are. Now you have the Cults,
Speaker 1: your next three opponents, Cults, Rams, Broncos combined record twelve
Speaker 1: nine and one. You are eight and six Chargers. It
Speaker 1: is murky as hell at the bottom of the wild
Speaker 1: card race, but you absolutely need to get out of
Speaker 1: there with at least ten wins and go to the dance.
Speaker 1: So absolutely Maybe the only excuse is that they're going
Speaker 1: against be d n. Mr Nick Falls is back in
Speaker 1: the mix starting this game over, but about well, I'm
Speaker 1: not good night recap. I don't know. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he actually played very well in the one game that
Speaker 1: he played last year against Russell Wilson. No one will
Speaker 1: ever remember that game, but it was like a shootout
Speaker 1: Bears Seahawks, and the Bears had a crazy comeback. Nick
Speaker 1: Foles was a member of the Bears. I don't think
Speaker 1: he'll do it this week though, because he's on the
Speaker 1: Colts and he's going against an improving Chargers defense. That's
Speaker 1: what's been really encouraging. I think Brandon Staley has kind
Speaker 1: of been in his bag the last two weeks with
Speaker 1: really good game plans. They're getting the past Rush Derwin
Speaker 1: James uh appears to be trending towards a return. Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa might return in the next week or two, probably
Speaker 1: not this week. Racehn Slater might return before the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They could actually be a team you don't want to face.
Speaker 1: And if they can keep it going defensively, that changes
Speaker 1: this team because they had so many problems defensively and
Speaker 1: they should be able to shut down this Colt. You
Speaker 1: said this about the Vikings that you wanted to see
Speaker 1: the Vikings finally just obliterate someone and just flex their
Speaker 1: muscles and enough with this. Like the Chargers are kind
Speaker 1: of the a f c's vikings on some level. And
Speaker 1: that's seven of the eight wins have been by six
Speaker 1: or fewer points, Like they just don't blow teams out,
Speaker 1: and it's like their defense is has gotten so much better.
Speaker 1: I think Brandon's the idea that Brandon Stily was going
Speaker 1: to get userved by Sean Payton, uh is always possible,
Speaker 1: but I think he's done a lot of Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's also mentioned like the West Coast.
Speaker 1: I want a California team, I want a quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: like the Chargers just are that team. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Brandon Stily's plan looks like it's exists today
Speaker 1: right now. But you're right, like this is the most
Speaker 1: Chargery type thing would be to not close out of
Speaker 1: a playoff spot here. You just simply have to go
Speaker 1: do it. You do not come out of these last
Speaker 1: three games with at least two wins, and you really
Speaker 1: should win all three if we are to take you seriously.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Matt Ryan thing, it's it's really a bummer.
Speaker 1: It's said for a guy that has had statistically Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame considered career. Um, yeah, an m v P.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows about three now, considering where his career is,
Speaker 1: the level of his play, the fact that obviously the
Speaker 1: cults are moving on, there's a pretty decent chance that
Speaker 1: thirty three nothing uh tot is his last game ever plays.
Speaker 1: So he has the most famous playoff meltdown ever uh
Speaker 1: not him alone, but he played a part in it,
Speaker 1: and his career could end on on the greatest comeback
Speaker 1: or the greatest collapse every by a team. It's just
Speaker 1: it's kind of some Greek tragedy stuff. I think it
Speaker 1: could go higher than that too, because he's still owed
Speaker 1: twelve million guaranteed they sign up for not just this year,
Speaker 1: but you go to over the cap, he's owed twelve
Speaker 1: million guaranteed next season, and if they try they do
Speaker 1: just play for them again, right, and if they just
Speaker 1: cut him, it's an eighteen million dollar dead money hit.
Speaker 1: So again, that's on Chris Ballard for year. How many
Speaker 1: million years? Well, I just wonder, I wonder if things
Speaker 1: could change just because it's like Chris Ballard, how many
Speaker 1: years do you get to solve the corner? Would not
Speaker 1: have liked to be in that conversation or to hear
Speaker 1: that conversation between just Saturday and Matt Ryan. That. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're from another angle, if I'm Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, get me out of here. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, It's just he's obviously a proud
Speaker 1: guy and a competitor and a good team for It's
Speaker 1: just it's kind of sad. It's tough. One last thing
Speaker 1: on this game. The Chargers team, doesn't you know, just
Speaker 1: as they start this game, they might know that they
Speaker 1: can clinch a playoff spot this week, So they need
Speaker 1: a Raider's loss possible. I mean we the Rainmaker believe so,
Speaker 1: and and Mark locked it up. So a Jets loss,
Speaker 1: UH and either a pit Pat's or Dolphins loss somewhat
Speaker 1: realistic scenario for the Charges to go into this game
Speaker 1: knowing they can clinch this week. That'd be great for them,
Speaker 1: very good. There's the Week sixteen preview. UH. Reminder, no
Speaker 1: Friday Fund show this week, but we will have a
Speaker 1: TNF recap special with my dad and myself Jets, Jaguars,
Speaker 1: and remember we're launching at some point in our own
Speaker 1: network now. UH and Some of the programming will include
Speaker 1: from another angle with Mark Sessler, The Showman Show, and uh,
Speaker 1: we have back to our wrong that's after our show.
Speaker 1: What else we had? Flapjacks, Uh, flop jobs, flop Jackson,
Speaker 1: flop Jobs, Our Morning Jobs over Flapjacks, flop jobs. Flop
Speaker 1: jobs is so good on its own. Well, we got
Speaker 1: flapjacks in the title. It's our morning show. That's our
Speaker 1: morning show. I know you could, you can have it.
Speaker 1: But the title we build it's a nice title of
Speaker 1: Breakfast at Wimbledon adds in a whole lone. We're trying
Speaker 1: to grant it. That's all great. And don't forget the
Speaker 1: new Game Show when Mark's Old Football Magazine, when Marks
Speaker 1: Old right, and I also we're we're violently taking control
Speaker 1: of this guy gets it and pulling it from wherever
Speaker 1: it was before, not sure where that was to this
Speaker 1: new night. I've also been in contact with Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: on some type of ultimate fighting type program. It's a
Speaker 1: great network. It's gonna change, it's gonna bring cable television
Speaker 1: back to where it was fifteen to twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Stupid All right, thank you to everybody. Um, we'll see
Speaker 1: you I was gonna say Merry Christmas and all that,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back before then. So until Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: he the call