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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, SAT. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. It's a beautiful day for

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Speaker 1: an off day in Oxnard, California, and this is Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday to all of you. We've got a busy

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Speaker 1: weekend ahead as the Cowboys players will not be on

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Speaker 1: the practice field today, but they will be on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday, and we look ahead to the Blue White

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Speaker 1: Scrimmage on Sunday as well, which you can see right

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Speaker 1: twenty one in Dallas Fort Worth and you can be

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Speaker 1: a part of as well. Make sure to make plans

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Speaker 1: if you're in southern California to be out here on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It is a four o'clock start time. Players hit the

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Speaker 1: field starting at three thirty and there's fun for the

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Speaker 1: whole family. How are you guys doing this morning? You're perfect,

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Speaker 1: You're perfect. Way you set things up, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just kind of go right into that's a professional guy,

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Speaker 1: But no, do it good feel like you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the three days a practice have been pretty good. Off

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Speaker 1: day coming up. You know, players kind of get a

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Speaker 1: chance to catch their breath. We need to catch our

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Speaker 1: breath a little bit too. But it is going to

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Speaker 1: be a really exciting weekend with you know, with the

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Speaker 1: practice leading into the Blue White, because like with the

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Speaker 1: Blue White, you're gonna get some actual, some tackling and

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Speaker 1: see a lot of these young young guys get options.

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Speaker 1: As a former scout, I appreciate that the most when

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to put this team together. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: nice little preview for preseason game number one. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: we'll see me just five days later. Five days later,

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Speaker 1: we'll see some of these young guys, like Brian said,

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Speaker 1: towards the end of practice in a real competitive situation,

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Speaker 1: and then they will probably dominate most of the snaps

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Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. We had some preseason football

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Speaker 1: last night too. We did Football's game, Yeah Fighting seventeen

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Speaker 1: sixteen win by the Ravens over the Bears RG three

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Speaker 1: in the house. That's right, Yeah, yeah. Man. Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: though thrown had mixed reviews, but it's the first preseason game,

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Speaker 1: first to five for those two teams. The next Thursday,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Cowboys will be up the road in

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara to take on the forty nine ers and

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Speaker 1: again though on this Blue White scrimmage. In fact, after today,

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Speaker 1: it's four straight practice days for the Cowboys, afternoon practices Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, and eleven am practice specific time on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: And Brian doesn't like to talk about the weather, but

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Speaker 1: he did mention it just before we came on the

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Speaker 1: air that it's gonna be eighty eight degrees on Monday

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Speaker 1: and Tuesday. That's very hot for this place. It is.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Jason Garrett, if you were asking him,

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Speaker 1: he would probably get a little smile about that. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's a devastating weather, but you know

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Speaker 1: you can still breathe. But yeah, that's good. They get

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Speaker 1: a little heat, and you know, it always helps your team.

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Speaker 1: It helps, not not the excessive heat, but little heat

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Speaker 1: the news this morning, I heard that in San Diego

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Speaker 1: it's been so warm that the Pacific Ocean has reached

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Speaker 1: a record high of seventy degrees at the beach as

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Speaker 1: it really I'm thinking high of seventy. I'm still not

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Speaker 1: going in the water. Seventy degree seemed to me. Those

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Speaker 1: to me those Shark Week movies. I'm never going in

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Speaker 1: the water. I'm the guy. I'm the guy waving on

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't get into the pool like

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Speaker 1: That yeah there, and it's got to be at least

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Speaker 1: seventy eight. Yeah, and that's pushing it. Sometimes were such whimps. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I talked to my wife the other day. She's like,

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Speaker 1: it really cooled off at home. It's like ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: It's not one hundred. It's not a hundred. Can I

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Speaker 1: tell a real quick little story. It's not Mickey's minute, No, no,

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Speaker 1: how what the difference between five extra degrees? What it

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Speaker 1: wind blowing and it's thirty degrees, it's quite a difference.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you an expensive story. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: My electric bill just showed up. Oh I do not

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Speaker 1: want to say. Oh, air conditioner never shuts. I remember

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Speaker 1: I go, no, it's got a it's got to cool

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Speaker 1: off like thirty degrees when it's one hundred and ten,

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Speaker 1: just to get it to seventy five. Knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: I'm just praying that my air conditioner makes it another

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Speaker 1: That's what I am, because it's it's due to be replaced.

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Speaker 1: Fix mine weekend before we left. You fixed it yourself.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not I paid three hundred bucks or whatever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what'd you get out of yesterday? Favorite day of practice?

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Speaker 1: That was a good, favorite day of practice. I love

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Speaker 1: red zone work. You know, we didn't get the we

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Speaker 1: his camera and he'd try to see everything. Well, and

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Speaker 1: they went like the offense was just clicking it along

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Speaker 1: and then they at the end like Mickey, after the

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Speaker 1: was really going there. Maybe birds flying over, just got

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Speaker 1: hit myself, calmed down, Yeah, yeah, don't be strain. I

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Speaker 1: got a coaching Yeah, throw the headset off, can't help.

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Speaker 1: I've got a coaching point to make here. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: for you youth sports coaches out there, make it fun

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Speaker 1: for your players. What Jason Garrett was doing there, it

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Speaker 1: drills that you're doing, right, but it makes it it

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Speaker 1: thing that I got out of that drill from a

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Speaker 1: coaching standpoint as well, it relates to the Cowboys Packers

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Speaker 1: game when Aaron Rodgers threw the fade over Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: right to win the game. Okay, I remember Dave Campo

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Speaker 1: you can't guard the fade like that. The cornerback cannot

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Speaker 1: guard the fade. You can't look back at the quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the technique that Jordan Lewis was using. He looked back

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Speaker 1: and you know what, and it was going on without

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Speaker 1: those guys got themselves a day off. Yeah, Herns has

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Speaker 1: got some tight uh both odds, both of them are.

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Speaker 1: They're a tight so. But yeah, that it was and

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Speaker 1: providing opportunities for the younger guys. Oh yeah. In fact,

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Speaker 1: can get Vicky's attention back here and you get puts

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Speaker 1: his headset back. I had one more question. Ryan was

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Speaker 1: bad too. I'll hold in nine seven two four nine

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Speaker 1: a call and join the show here on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I've got a all right this this day in Cowboys

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00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: training camp history. What happened? Mackey? You can't answer this

443
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: because we had this conversation yesterday. I was just smiling

444
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: two years ago today, August third, twenty sixteen, Kellen Moore

445
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: got hurt. Kelen Moore broke his ankle. We had our

446
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: dak for cootus points who stepped on his ankle? What guard?

447
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Oh, is he still on the team.

448
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Though I don't. I'm just getting I think it was

449
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: probably Clay to board. May I think him? I think

450
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: it was him. I think it was Clay to board

451
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: and stepped on his ankle. I changed the course of

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00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: quarterback history. Indeed he did. Of course that happened. And

453
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: at the time, Dak was battling Jamie Showers for the

454
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: third string quarterback job and Kellen Moore was the backup.

455
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Speaker 1: And then three weeks later, of course, Tony Romo breaks

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00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: his back and the rest is Dak Prescott history. We

457
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: talked to Kellen about this a few days ago and

458
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: he said, well, we got Dak Prescott out of the

459
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: mix of something good happened. I mean my led to

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Speaker 1: the end of my career to buddy. So here's the

461
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: question I posed to Dak Prescott yesterday when we did

462
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: the Dak car wash. What is your interview on with him? It?

463
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: We aired a little bit of it last night, but

464
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Speaker 1: I think the entire the entire conversation will be Sunday

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Speaker 1: night on CBS eleven. We'll post it as well. I'll

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00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: retweet it at CBS eleven Bill Jones. Anyway, all right,

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Speaker 1: So here's my question. I mean, and you can chime

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Speaker 1: in on this, all right. Setting that stage there, Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore goes down, Tony Romo goes down. All right, What

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00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: was the most likely thing to happen two years later,

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00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore would be Dak Prescott's quarterback coach, That

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00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: Tony Romo would be the lead analyst on CBS, or

473
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: that Jason Witten would be the lead analyst on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. Most likely or least like the most likely

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00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: thing that you would have predicted at that time, Kellen

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00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Moore is the quarterbacks coach. That was what I said, Yeah,

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00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: because he was headed and I talked to him about this.

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00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: He was always headed down this path, yes, family of coaches,

479
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: and he told me that you know what happened to

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00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: him is right over there a couple of years ago

481
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: just kind of accelerated the path because he kind of

482
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: became a coach player coach that year anyway from him

483
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: and Mark Sanchez great help. So you're all in agreement

484
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: that Kellen Dak's answer was Romo and Witten. He really

485
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: decided between the two because they're always going to be

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00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: successful at whatever they do. Basically, you know, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's just assuming they were done with football. Rank how

488
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, rank one to three, one being the

489
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: most likely, three being the least likely, Kellen Romo, and

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00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: then Witten least likely. Because I thought Witten would play

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00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 1: till I thought Witten would play two or three more.

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Speaker 1: I thought it be the other way. You thought on

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00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: the broadcast on Monday Night Football, No, that he would

494
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: have no, no, that he would be retired before right. Okay? Yeah,

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00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: see that's that's where I think my money on football

496
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: is such an iconic brand. Jason Witten is the last

497
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: guy that I thought would be on Monday Night Football

498
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: as an analyst, the last guy on April fifteen. Yes,

499
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: because you thought he'd still be playing, or you didn't

500
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: think he would go into I just didn't think he

501
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: would go into TV. I didn't think Jason went I

502
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: thought Jason Witton's path was going to be into coaching,

503
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: and and then the next thing, you know, he's coaching Memphis,

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00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: and then he's coaching you know, he's coaching Vanderbilt, or

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00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: he's coaching you know. I think that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I thought he would go. Here's where I here's where

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00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: I think Witten's career is going right now. It's he's

508
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: Monday night football booth and whenever that Tennessee head coaching

509
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: job opens, Yeah, that's where he's headed. He's thirty six,

510
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: has a lot of life left to live, you know,

511
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: willing he can do. A lot of guys have come

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: out of the broadcast booth and become head coach. The

513
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: Titans job might come open if something happens in Ohio

514
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: State and with Brave Bravel going on the back to

515
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: his alma mater and little yeah but when getting that job,

516
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: but he try for the volunteer. Yeah. Little did you

517
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: know about Kellen Moore's family of coaches? Yea, his grandfather

518
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: coach basketball at my high school. Yeah, little did we

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00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: know that, Bicky, Hey there rank now rank now Kellen

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00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Moore Mickey's high school coach is full not my coach

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00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: he coached. Oh okay, you didn't play basketball at high

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00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: school backy junior high Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that.

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin played basketball in high school. He revealed, Bill,

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Speaker 1: don't use all your material now, that's just Tavan brought

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: it up yesterday because we were talking about the wide

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00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: receivers carrying the bricks. It just wrote that down to

527
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: remind me that I had that quote, and he actually

528
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: used They used that same drill in basketball in high

529
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: school at Table High School, and he said, I didn't

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: shoot no bricks in high school. So I picked that

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00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: thing up. Yeah, that's I was gonna ask. Because he

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00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: picked up the brick. It weighs twenty five twenty five pounds,

533
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: but it's painted so it's clipp slick. So I was

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00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: holding it and it just slid roud. It wasn't because

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00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: hand sized didn't have a problem. Well no, it did

536
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: strang strength, but the paint just it slipped right out

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00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: of my hand. Yeah, imagine that. Because there's no podcaster

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00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: professional wide receiver. Somebody didn't make it but ten yards

539
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: who who? I didn't see that someone. We have trouble. Well,

540
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: they're trying, they're trying to build up to it. Wants

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Speaker 1: them to go with early in camp, without your breath. Seriously,

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00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: only take Noah Brown one earlier, That's what he said. Yeah,

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: early on. It's just been one one trip down and

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00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: they've kind of gotten better at it. Tavon said he

545
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: only made it like halfway across. Yeah, you can't. You can't.

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00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: There's no grip, you know, it's not like it's a

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00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: rough surface that you can kind of dig your fingers into.

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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: It just slipped right out of my hand. Oh wonder

549
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: why you're not out there? I mean, we're not. I'll

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00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: go next time professional God to do a talking Cowboys version.

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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: They're in that tent. We go do it. I got

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00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: two numb fingers right now thinking about it. Yeah, I'll

553
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: see already, excuses I'll try. I'll go. And by the way,

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00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: every time I talk with Dak just come away more

555
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: and more impressive. You know, I've talked about it yesterday.

556
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: He's just a stud. Is he feeling pressure? Bill? I

557
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: did bring that up to him, and he added a

558
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: likely answer. But uh, you know, he's just exudes confidence

559
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: apps to be the leader of your team. And and

560
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: going back to our conversation from whenever it was yesterday

561
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: or the day before about that pressure of the contract

562
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, he's got so much confidence about it.

563
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: He didn't even think about that. That's why I said yesterday,

564
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: like when he says that stuff, I actually believe it.

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Speaker 1: If he says, if he told you that there's no pressure,

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00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: most guys say that and I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah,

567
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, yeah, sure, there's pressure. Thank you

568
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: very much, Chap. Yeah for the interview. Okay, thanks, but

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Speaker 1: well I'm not gonna get in this discussion with you

570
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: again today. But everybody out there's got pressure looking at him.

571
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's opera. I think he probably used

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00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: it more as opportunity. It's banics for him. It's how

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00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: you opportunity, motivation, opportunity, good words. Okay, so the backup

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00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, Okay, what do you see in there? I

575
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: hope we got a couple of gamers, because it's kind

576
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: of been a little hit and miss, to be honest

577
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: with you, Mike White. I've got two size fourteen Nikes

578
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: right up on the top of this table for Mike White,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's been it's been a little bit

580
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: of a struggle for him, to be honest with you.

581
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: From what my evaluation is, I think he's holding the

582
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: ball a little bit too long right now, and some

583
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: of his throws, I think he's some of his indecision

584
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: as far as where he wants to go with the

585
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: football has been a little bit of a rough. And again,

586
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: he's a rookie guy at Cooper Rush. He hasn't been

587
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: perfect either. I think some of the stuff down the

588
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: field that he's tried to throw has been a little off.

589
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: He's made some throws and then times he'll make a

590
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: throw in here where's he going, ends up in a

591
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: spot of the field. I'm just very hopeful that we

592
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: have these four preseason games, that they get protection, they

593
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: continue to get good wide receiver play, and that both

594
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: Scarborough and Jackson and those guys can tote the mail

595
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: to keep defenses off him a little bit so they

596
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: can make some play action throws and and and and

597
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: complete some passes and get a little bit more confidence

598
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: about what they're doing. So what about that guy Jackson, Yeah,

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00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Varius Jackson, He's had some nice both Scarborough's had some

600
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: good runs too. Yeah, they're gonna have a tough time.

601
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Hopeful about that. I really am. So it was a

602
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: Trey Williams release solely because of the instability to I

603
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: think Mickey's got the actually and I think after they

604
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: saw Jackson, yeah they yeah, I mean, because you know,

605
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and I got reminded. I forgot. He's not even a

606
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: year removed from his ac ACL injury. Right, So, oh yeah,

607
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: you know the thing the Cowboys you gotta remember about Jackson,

608
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: They liked him, they didn't want to lose him. Yeah,

609
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: he was on the he was on the inactive list

610
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: for twelve games, and then they had to make a move,

611
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: and I think the move is to get Randy Gregory

612
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: on the roster. Darren mcfaddman it was McFadden, Okay, I

613
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: knew it was. Who was somebody that they had to

614
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: release that never mind. But but yeah, they thought they

615
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: were going to sign him back to Cleveland, Cleveland and

616
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland with Cleveland doing Cleveland doing a good thing, you know,

617
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: you mean, if you're looking at personnel, you know, and

618
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: you're a bad team trying to add guys. And it

619
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: didn't work out for him Cleveland like that, and then

620
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: he tours a c right right away. And the thing

621
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Speaker 1: I'll say about the backup quarterbacks that Brian said gamers,

622
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm willing to reserve judgment until we see games

623
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: because I'm just looking at yeaheah, you're right. Just was

624
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: your just you know, we're out here watching practice and

625
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: when and when they when things are good, you say

626
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: they're good, and when things are not so good. You

627
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: say they're not so well, you're absolutely Dak same thing.

628
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: That's that's that's fair, No, Brian, you're dead on. Yeah.

629
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: I just remember Cooper Rush last year. I don't think

630
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: he showed a ton in practice, and then he got

631
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame game and not only did

632
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: he make plays you're talking about twenty or something like that,

633
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: some crazy thing. The protection wasn't great either in that game.

634
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But but but yeah, Mike White does

635
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the time look like a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: processing things. I thought it'd be. I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a smoother transition for him.

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Speaker 1: He is a rookie quarter Yeah, yeah, just a seven

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Speaker 1: or eight practices, please, you know, I bear with me here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just evaluation. Yep, that's all right now, maybel early, Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. How many people like you said, why

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Speaker 1: they thought. That scouts will admit that they thought they

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Speaker 1: thought they thought they thought Dak Prescott. They went Scott

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Speaker 1: Lenahan and the coaching staff were the ones that really

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Speaker 1: pushed Wade Wilson really pushed for Dak Prescott, and the

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Speaker 1: Scouts argument was, well, wait, don't we have Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: and Jamie Showers. And they went back and forth, back

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Speaker 1: and forth, and then the coaching staff won. That won

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Speaker 1: that discussion and it worked out for him very well.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it was a business. No, no, no worries,

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Speaker 1: no problem. But think about it as we talk about

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Speaker 1: two years ago today. At that point August third, twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott had not separated himself Jamiale Shower much less

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Speaker 1: but Jamie and not until they go to the college

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Speaker 1: the RAM game, and we're all sitting in that open

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Speaker 1: air press box going where's this guy been? And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start remembering the things that

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen and those folks at MISSISIPI said, State said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be glad you drafted this guy. He's he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a big time player. He went, he's a winner.

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Speaker 1: All these things started going through a head. I'm like, going, man,

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen was right about this guy got in the Houston.

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Speaker 1: People were saying the same thing last year about DeShawn

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Speaker 1: watching Shawn Watson, you know, and and what his college

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Speaker 1: his college coach was basically compared him to the greats

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Speaker 1: that played the game, you know, even at the NFL level.

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Speaker 1: And we saw it in the glimpse that we got

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Speaker 1: of him last year. Yeah, Showers and still play quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the age. And I don't you know, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't this doesn't work out here, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he could go get another shots

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00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: made a couple of nice plays yesterday. Yeah, showed up.

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00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: He played safety. Yeah, but see where he was. Where

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Speaker 1: was he making plays? The field was smaller, and his

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Speaker 1: reaction seat we always see him. His reaction. He knows

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Speaker 1: a timely manner. And it's sometimes it happens to Xavier

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Speaker 1: Woods as well. But you you when you can shrink

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Speaker 1: if you just react the right way, you can make

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Speaker 1: say he did. He did a couple of nice things,

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Speaker 1: just they Showers did. I was impressed by him. He's

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Speaker 1: got a different body now than what he had to

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Speaker 1: from Rowdy, the official mascot of the Dallas Cowboys, who

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Speaker 1: I did yoga with last night. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: That was a tease, go for it, just go for it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we here finally put our little yoga story together.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. Yes, what is this gonna air

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Speaker 1: fills tonight? Yes, eleven and at home, we'll make sure

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Speaker 1: we tweet that out too at CBS eleven, Bill Jones

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Speaker 1: and h So it goes back to Saturday when we

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Speaker 1: forgot our first glimpse of yoga, and then Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: you gotta gotta try. You gotta air that every sportscast

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Speaker 1: from now on. Right. So, anyway, and Stacy Hickman, the

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Speaker 1: yoga instructor, is not talking. We were waiting to see

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Speaker 1: if we could get an interview with her. Well, she's

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Speaker 1: off limits. And in fact, yesterday we wanted to get

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Speaker 1: some more video of the yoga and that was off

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Speaker 1: limits too, So they put the kabash on yoga. But

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Speaker 1: we are going to persevere fight through it. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: last night, after I did my live shot out here,

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Speaker 1: we had to have a closing stand up with me

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Speaker 1: doing yoga, and so I'm hitting record at home. Where's

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Speaker 1: my fault? I'm an ask he recorded. Rowdy just happened

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Speaker 1: to be out here on the field because a competing

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Speaker 1: sportscaster who was celebrating his seventieth birthday, that would be

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Speaker 1: Dale Hansen. He was there presenting a birthday rowdy with

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Speaker 1: a fire extingu What it was is that? What it was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch You're not alone. So anyway, we grabbed

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Speaker 1: Rowdy and so I've got in a little and rowdy

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Speaker 1: did too in a little yoga pose. Oh let me

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Speaker 1: tell you that yoga stuff. Yeah, all I did. I

728
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Speaker 1: wasn't really doing I was. I was just sitting down

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Speaker 1: with my legs crossed and did you feel old? Yes,

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Speaker 1: very good by hims. I mean I haven't used those

731
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Speaker 1: muscles and forever your legs stop. Yeah, like you know

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Speaker 1: that's not politically cured. I had to bring that up

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Speaker 1: as soon as it left my mouth. I said it

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Speaker 1: to folks. I said, like, you know, American style. Did

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Speaker 1: they have to twist you at the at the end?

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I did, like put my fund up there

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Speaker 1: and my other fund over. It was just I was

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Speaker 1: not doing the like you would sit at a pick

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Speaker 1: sitting on the ground. I think we should do that.

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Speaker 1: My problem, my issue on one a minute is that

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't realize is how painful it would be

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Speaker 1: on my hips as well. So anyway, Yeah, keep working out, Bill,

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Speaker 1: You're doing a great shot. Yeah, what you'll do for

747
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: a good story, right, that's exactly right. Yoga. So I

748
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Speaker 1: sat there and with their eyes closed and hands out,

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Speaker 1: on a Friday morning. We get you set for a

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Speaker 1: Nate in Georgia, you're up on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Nate. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Really enjoy the show. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like you guys are having a really good day today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. But I also wanted to mention I really

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Speaker 1: please continue that. A couple of questions. First off, currently,

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Speaker 1: with the way the defense is made up, UM, you know,

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Speaker 1: nothing against the defensive tackles or the safeties, but if

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Speaker 1: there needs to be an upgrade, um, you know specifically

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Speaker 1: with that uh, that safety up in the Pacific Northwest,

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Speaker 1: what would be what would make the defense better right

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Speaker 1: now if they were to upgrade the safety position or

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle position. So that's the first question. And

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Speaker 1: the second question, UM, I haven't heard much about Joel Lanning.

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Speaker 1: Uh does he have a shot of making this team

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Speaker 1: as a linebacker? Um? Just when that's that, thank you

821
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Speaker 1: very much, I'll sit back and listen to things. Appreciate Lanning.

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Speaker 1: I think his best bed is practice squad for him.

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Speaker 1: I think he does. He's such a good athlete. You

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Speaker 1: could put the guy on the practice squad and he

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Speaker 1: could do I mean, the guy played quarterbacks runs, you know.

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Speaker 1: And to keep in mind with Lanning too. I mean

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Speaker 1: he inverted to linebacker his last year at Iowa State, right,

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Speaker 1: so right, Yeah, he was a quarterback and he played

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Speaker 1: some quarterback even when he was playing a linebacker at

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Speaker 1: an all conference level and a great conference, the Big Twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he did it against Oklahoma too, and they beat

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Speaker 1: tough defense. They have made it to the College Football

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Speaker 1: Playoff for the second time in three years. You know

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Speaker 1: something something about Landing though. He might be your new

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Speaker 1: version of Jamille Showers. Yeah, you know, the guy that

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Speaker 1: can do a lot. But I was gonna say he's

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Speaker 1: perfect for the practice. He sure is, and you know

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Speaker 1: it's and we've got we've got a blue Blue White scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: We've got preseason games. I guarantee it the last you know.

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Speaker 1: The great thing about it is we don't have a

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Speaker 1: cut until September one, so he's gonna get four shots

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Speaker 1: in the preseason games, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: maybe he could find a way to solidify a position

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad. You know, you're always competing. You're

845
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: always competing. If you're a guy, you're competing for practice

846
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: squad spots as well. So hopefully he can and you know,

847
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: maybe that. But if he shows up, well, and we'll see,

848
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I think this linebacker croup with who they've got there now,

849
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: will be tough for him to make. But practice squad

850
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: is surely not out of the question. So if you

851
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: were going to add a five time Pro bowler to

852
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: this defense, would you rather do it at defensive tackle

853
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: or safety? I said this the other day, I would

854
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: rather do it at defensive tackle. Right now? Yeah, I

855
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: think I would too, And that's because I know you've

856
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: talked about Xavier Woods. He's still learning, he's still learning

857
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: how to recognize things. But I kind of like what

858
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: I've seen from him. Sure, I think he brought a

859
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: lot of potential. Now is he going to be an

860
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: All Pro player? I don't know, but you know he's

861
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: a six round draft pick. Sure, I think he's got

862
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: a chance to be a pretty good starter for this

863
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: team if they stay status quo. See, I gotta know

864
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: who the five time Pro bowler is? Yeah, I mean

865
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: that's why I got to know the defensive tackle. We

866
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: already know it. Okay, it's Earl Thomas is the one

867
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: in question at the position. And I just going trade

868
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: for Aaron Donald since they don't want to pay right now,

869
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: there's a thought. Now if it's Aaron Donald, yeah, you're

870
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: all in. Everybody's all in. I yeah, I just feel

871
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: like that if you were going for the defensive tackle,

872
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: you would probably go younger, longer term, if you were

873
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna make that trade. If you're going for the safe,

874
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: you're probably looking at a two to three year deal

875
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: for that one. So so what would who like? Would

876
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: would Sue be the equivalent and at this stage in

877
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: his career or the equivalent of what Thomas is? So

878
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're with that, if you gave me,

879
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: if you if you get down now, if you gave

880
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: me a choice between Sue and Thomas, I would take Thomas.

881
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: So that's what this kind of point in time in

882
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: my career. But okay, say all right, say this, how

883
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: about this, Say that the say the Rams want to

884
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: give up on like Brockers, Michael Michael Brockers, Yeah, yeah,

885
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: he was, he was. He was part of the Clayborn

886
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: that's they took. They take stayed in that spot. They

887
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: they stay in that spot. That's where the Ram, that's

888
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: who the Rams took. Okay, would you take Michael Brockers

889
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: for say that's a good example, a third round pick,

890
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: absolutely see rather than Earl Thomas. Yeah, just from a

891
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: number standpoint. By the way, I don't know if we

892
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: touched on this. Cavon Fraser is back at safety and

893
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: at least, you know, he's a he's a rotation guy.

894
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe he's trying to compete for a starting job. Um,

895
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: so he's back in the mix at least. Yeah. By

896
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: the way, it sounded like it's more diet than medication

897
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: to treat whatever you know came up. Yeah, so we'll see.

898
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's from a comfortable point, they're a little

899
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: bit better figure, you know. That's what he he actually

900
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: did say. That's so. And I think what everybody needs

901
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: to remember about the Earl Thomas thing, it's it's it's

902
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: not only about the draft pick. He wants a lot

903
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: of money. Yeah, and I saw what he wrote on

904
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: It's the Tribune and and that sounded all fine and good,

905
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't mention in there that he wants to

906
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: be the highest paid safety in the game. The other thing,

907
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: I think players like him when they sign a contract,

908
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: you gotta start putting in that before your last year

909
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: or the contract, you better put a clause in there

910
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: that if I'm on the roster on March first, I

911
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: get this amount of my base salary, because that's why

912
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: they get into these situations. And I understood his argument

913
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: about I've been here, I've done all this for the

914
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: team data DA, Well, you get to that point, you

915
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: better have that clause in the contract because then you

916
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: get older and they say, I don't know if I

917
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: can afford that now, So that clause needs to be

918
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: in that contract when you're entering your last year. If

919
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm an agent. Yeah, I just I feel like with

920
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: with him, you know, the money, I don't. I'm not

921
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: so much worried about the money, and I'm not worried

922
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: about the pick. I'm just I'm trying to figure out

923
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: ways right now. And maybe it's a situation where if

924
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: he goes to the right situation, and maybe maybe we're

925
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: misevaluating how much money he really wants. Okay, you said

926
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: he wants to be the highest paid safety at Seattle.

927
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he wants to be the highest paid safety. No,

928
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is already. No, No, I think bear

929
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: Eric Barriot, I mean no, that's he's hit Seattle. He

930
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: wants to be the highest paid safety in the league. Yes,

931
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: if you get him in a situation where he ends

932
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: up in Oakland or Dallas or one of those places

933
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: where he gets him out of there and it turns

934
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: into a three year deal, it's all guaranteed. I use

935
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: the model for what they did for the quarterback in Minnesota.

936
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: You guarantee the contract and then you know, and once

937
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: it's over, it's over. So three years, thirty million guaranteed.

938
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have to go a little stronger than that.

939
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: But but yeah, you're then you're getting to what he wants. Yeah,

940
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: but he's already a he's already a ten to eleven

941
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: million dollar player right now. If you guaranteed him two

942
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: more million dollars a year, say six more million dollars

943
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: for three years, and then turn around it, but he's

944
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: at a place that he wants to be, maybe you

945
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: get that deal done. But his cap charges ten and

946
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: a half million. Yeah, I just you do have to

947
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: pay great players. I think I understand, and I think

948
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: it's Seattle. He wants to be paid at Seattle. But

949
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: but if he goes to the right situation, and I

950
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: could be totally wrong about this, making I could be

951
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: totally wrong. But I think if you guaranteed the contract

952
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: and you found a way too, and he gets to

953
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: a place where he wants to be, I think you

954
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: could get this deal done. See. I think if you

955
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: give him a lot of money the first year, yeah,

956
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: then he's probably looking at him going, Okay, I've got

957
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: my money. And then there's two more years on my contract, right,

958
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: and I've got my money but front, but I'm back

959
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: in Texas, I'm near everything I love. You know, those

960
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: are the kinds of that sometimes that makes a difference.

961
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: Would Seattle be interested in one of the Cowboys wide receivers?

962
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: See Seattle? To me, I don't know if it's so

963
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: much the wide receivers who just got hurt. Doug Baldwin

964
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: has been hurt. Yeah, Marshal is listed as a starter, right,

965
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: offer them and yeah he saw he was basically done

966
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: last year. I think that I think that John, I

967
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: think that he could probably you offered you said, okay,

968
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: look at our wide receivers and determine which one you

969
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: would like. That's you when you usually make a trade

970
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: and someone saying, hey, we've got a surplus at We've

971
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: got a surplus at this position, okay, look at look

972
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: at our position, Look at that position, because okay, let

973
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: me say this, is there anybody on that list of

974
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers that you wouldn't trade for the Cowboys for

975
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: you wouldn't trade to get a shot to draft UH,

976
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: to get a not drafted to sign UH to sign.

977
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trading Cedric Wilson. I mean sorry,

978
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: Michael Gallt Michael Gout, Yeah, yeah, is he the only one?

979
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: Is he the only one? I think? For the for

980
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: what you're how you're constructive this show. We want to

981
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: part with Cole Beasley for what they do because Tyler

982
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Lockett Yeah, and you know, and and I think you

983
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: need Hearns. Yeah, okay, so we got too. Everybody else

984
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: is okay? So everybody else we say. And then the

985
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: other thing You've got to consider, if if I had

986
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: an excess player at a position that I could trade,

987
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel as bad about trading for his contract

988
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: on a one year deal if he doesn't want to renegotiate,

989
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: because because the guy I'm trading I was probably gonna

990
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: cut right. Would you trade them? Would you trade them

991
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis or Anthony Brown? Did we discuss this yesterday.

992
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: He kind of made a face like, mm there it is.

993
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: It's the face I think about it. Yeah, Okay, if

994
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna, would you you would trade one of those

995
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: guys for a one year deal? Right? Would you trade him?

996
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: Would you trade? All? Right? What you're you're taking on

997
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: his contract, but you're giving up picker, you give it up.

998
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: In addition, you probably have to if you did it

999
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: with a player, you probably realistic. He can look at

1000
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: a third ye, I think I think a second round.

1001
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: It's a second. I think a second gets it done clear.

1002
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: I think a second gets it done clear with the contract? Right, well,

1003
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: we're taking on his I'm not trading for a one

1004
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: year contract with draft choices. Okay? Would you would do

1005
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: it for a player? Though? But I do it for

1006
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: a player? Okay? If you said, okay, we will give you,

1007
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: we'll take the contract, we'll give you Anthony Brown or

1008
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. What about Jamie Showers. Your guy's a little

1009
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: smarter than that. Huh. Yeah, he's not a dummy. He's

1010
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: he's not doing radio like me. He's a little smarter

1011
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: than that. And a lot of people think they look

1012
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: at what he's gonna look at your roster and he's

1013
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick your best. But but a lot of people

1014
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: look at from the outside, look at Seattle and what

1015
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: they've done getting rid of players this year, and they

1016
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: think that, oh, they're rebuilding, they don't care about this year.

1017
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: But but I bet you in Seattle they care about that.

1018
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: Sure they do. Sure they care about They care about it,

1019
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: and to a point that they can win, especially in

1020
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: that division. If you're paying a quarterback one hundred million dollars,

1021
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: then you're trying to win football games. Yeah, you're not

1022
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: starting over. Yea. All right, here's a question in our

1023
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: last four minutes here, this is a very young Cowboys team.

1024
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: It is is it too young? Boy? From a playoff

1025
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: contender standpoint? They've got three guys thirty year over right,

1026
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: and when him as a snapper and the lake, I

1027
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: don't think necessarily it is because you have experience in

1028
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: key spots on both sides of the ball. You still

1029
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: got that veteran offensive line on the offense. That they

1030
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: were young leads, They were young at one time when

1031
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: in Pro Bowls and Pros. Yeah, they're right in their

1032
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: prime health, willing for Tyrn Smith and then on the

1033
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. You still got Sean Lee

1034
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: health willing that coupled with you hope that these young

1035
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: dbs DeMarcus Lawrence as well. I think they've got enough

1036
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: veterans to put this thing together. And I always go

1037
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: back to the offensive line. If you've if Connor Williams

1038
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: stabilizes the left guard spot, they're gonna do what they

1039
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: normally do. They're gonna run the football. And if one

1040
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: of these were a couple of these receivers can show

1041
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: up there, they can win football games the way they

1042
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: always have. Let me let me throw some Super Bowl

1043
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: winning or contending teams from the past at you. The

1044
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: ninety two Cowboys. How many players did they have on

1045
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: their roster? Thirty or old? They were young, so we're young.

1046
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: That's why I went straight to them. About five, you

1047
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: have five? I would say four, four, six, ten and one.

1048
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: It was a long snapper, hell Astray was thirty, right

1049
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: Bates was thirty one, Ray Horton thirty two. I Colt

1050
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: was thirty, Jeff Cot thirty one. Newton Nate was thirty

1051
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: one and ninety two. Novachek was thirty. Saxon the punter

1052
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: was thirty two. And A was thirty two and Robert

1053
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Williams was thirty. So how many of those guys though,

1054
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Speaker 1: were starters? Well, I mean Jeff Coote was a significant player.

1055
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Speaker 1: He was, he had already I coult was, he was,

1056
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Speaker 1: that was. Larry Brown came in that year and so

1057
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Speaker 1: he was. Kevin Smith ended up taking his job right

1058
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Speaker 1: eventually that season. But I mean, you had a mix

1059
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Speaker 1: of old and young, and by THEA wasn't the other

1060
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Speaker 1: reason that I looked at that Dak is twenty five, okay,

1061
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Speaker 1: what's Zeke twenty two? Twenty three? Now okay, all right,

1062
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Speaker 1: Well that year Troy was twenty six, Michael was twenty six,

1063
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Speaker 1: and Emmett was twenty three, So you're nucleus there. They

1064
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Speaker 1: were all this about the same age as what. So

1065
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Speaker 1: the key thing is is age doesn't matter as long

1066
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Speaker 1: as you're good. Dirty dozen and seventy five had ten

1067
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Speaker 1: players over the age of thirty. They didn't win the

1068
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that year, but that everyone talks about that

1069
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: Dirty dozen draft class. The seventy one Cowboys Super Bowl

1070
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Speaker 1: team had ten players thirty or over all. Right, modern

1071
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: day Eagles last year ten players thirty or over all? Right. Actually,

1072
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: this year they have ten thirty or over. Last year

1073
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team at fourteen players thirty or over. Huh

1074
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: See though, if you're going to compare it to back

1075
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: from ninety two backwards, there was no salary cap, right,

1076
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: so you could keep those over keep those old guys. Yeah,

1077
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: and you didn't have to pay them minimums. And I

1078
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: haven't looked at New England how many they got thirty

1079
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: or over, but they got a quarterback. They got a

1080
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: quarterback turning forty two today, probably pretty pretty extensive for

1081
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: forty one today. I think New England they seem like

1082
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: a team that's always adding veteran players. Did the Redskins

1083
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: in ninety one to have like thirty al thirty and over?

1084
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Speaker 1: Redskins have always been an old team and George Allen's

1085
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: teams in the seventies, yeah, all fifty one they didn't

1086
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: want any rookies. Got it off as Staton Babe, So

1087
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Speaker 1: Blue White Scrimmage on Sunday. Make sure if you're in

1088
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Speaker 1: the area to make it out here. It's free of

1089
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Speaker 1: charge and there's fun for the whole family out here,

1090
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Speaker 1: and you can watch it also here on Dallas Cowboys.

1091
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Speaker 1: Do some yoga. Please do it let's film it. Oh yeah,

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