1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I know it's election season and it's this huge win 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: and taxes and spending and there's all kinds of things 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: going on in the government right now. I know all that, 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: and they are important things. I am not dismissive of 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: anything that's happening. It's fun, it's good, it's exciting. I'm watching, 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: you're watching. But let's remember that's what the special is about, 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: remembering what is important and what will save us in 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the long run. You see, if you have a brain tumor, 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: God forbid, but if you have a brain tumor and 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: the brain tumor grows to a big enough size, you 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: are going to begin getting headaches. Obviously, have a big 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: mass growing and a brand, you're going to begin getting headaches. 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: And headaches suck. I'm not dismissive of headaches. And you 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: can take things to get the pain gone, but that 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: doesn't actually save you in the long run. In the 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: long run, headache or not, you have to remove the tumor. 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: We have elections, and elections do matter. I'm not dismissive 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: of them. In the same way I'm not dismissive of 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: the headache. It's good find that we have a sane administration. 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: We'll get better here and better there, and these things 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: do matter. But in the long run, it's not this 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: politician or that politician, or this bill or that border 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: wall that can and will save this country. In the 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: long run. What will save this country is the same 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: thing that has saved many a country and ruined many 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: a country. Strong nuclear families or the lack thereof nuclear families. 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: A man and a woman getting married, making babies, raising 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: those babies together. It sounds almost like an eye rolling thing. Oh, 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: you old fogey, open up a history book. Long before 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: there was the United States of America, Leaders of nations 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: have noticed and known that they need strong family units 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: because they are the building block of a society. I 33 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: could go through a bunch of statistics here. One in 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: four American children are fatherless. Did you know that. That's 35 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: eighteen million kids. Did you know single parent homes? Well, 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the kids are forty three percent less likely to get a's. 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: If you have a single parent home, your child is 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty times more likely to go to jail. We have 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: a family unit problem, and let's just le's talk about 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: that for a moment. Why why is it a problem? Well, 41 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: you are made by God to have a mother and 42 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: a father, and I realize that's not everyone's situation. If 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: it's not your situation, I'm not judging, of course, but 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: we are all made to be raised by a mother 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: and a father. That's how we're made. We need both. 46 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: We need mom, we need that, we need both, and 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: when you have both that it puts together the right 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: pieces in you you that will send you out into 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: the world and make you better at everything. This is 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: why it's so good for a country. It's not just 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: that you will grow up and be a better husband 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: or wife yourself, a better parent yourself, although you will, 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: and that again it continues on. You will be a 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: better employee, more stable, You will be a better citizen 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: to your country, more reliable, not in jail, not getting 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: fs not. Nuclear families are the building block of any society. 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, but one of the most patriotic things 58 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: you can do for you young people watching. Find somebody 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: and marry them, and stay married, and make some babies 60 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: with them and raise them with love. It's one of 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: the best ways you can serve your country. That's a fact. 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: And it's not an accident that nuclear families have been wrecked. 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: So badly in this country. This is something that communists 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: have done since the Soviet Union Union was famous for it. 65 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: Maos China was famous for it. The Stasi and East 66 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Germany were famous for it, famous for infiltrating and breaking 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: up families. They would do things to turn husbands against wives, 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: mothers against their own children. Children would go turn in 69 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: their parents to the secret police. It sounds crazy, but 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: it happens. They want to break up the family because 71 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: they understand stable normal people will never embrace the sickness 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: of communism. That's why they turn turbo freaks like this 73 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: loose on your children. 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: How am I going to explain trans people to my kids? Well, 75 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: I am a TA in kindergarten class and I explained 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: it to them today. So people were wondering if I 77 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: was a boy or a girl, and so they asked me. 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: One of the kids said, Bernie, are you a boy 79 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: or girl? And I said that's a great question. I'm 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of in between. And he was like, what, No, 81 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: are you a boy or a girl? And I was like, well, 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: are you a boy or a girl? And he's like, 83 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm a boy and what do you think list is? 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: I think lite's a girl? Cool. So some people are boys, 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: some people are girls, and some people can be in between, 86 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: or they can be neither. Most people are boys or girls, 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: and sometimes people switch from one to the other. 88 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: What you mean I could be a girl. 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be a girl if you wanted to 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, if you wanted to, you could say 91 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm a girl. And if you wanted, I could call 92 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: you by a different name and call you she. And 93 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: he was like, but I don't want to be a girl. 94 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: And I said, that's great. That means you're a boy, 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: and I'll call you by your name and use heat. 96 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: And he said, Okay. 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: You can laugh and roll your eyes, you can scream, 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: but understand that vile little street animal is on a 99 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: mission to break up families. That's what all that stuff's 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: all about. It's about breaking children away from their parents, 101 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: shattering the nuclear family, creating an angst ridden disaster of 102 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: a human being who will vote Communist the rest of 103 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: its life. It's a fact. Don't fall for it, don't 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: go for it, and understand this. Democrats understand who their 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: enemy is. They understand full well. Remember when Kamala Harris 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: at her rally, people were yelling Jesus is King, Jesus 107 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: is Lord. Remember what she said to them. You're at 108 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the wrong rally. The people who hate this country. You 109 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: know what they fear, the most strong nuclear families who 110 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: go to church on Sunday. All that may have made 111 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable, but I am right. We have such an 112 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: amazing show for you. Hang on. 113 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: And frankly, I voted Kamala Harris and I started crying 114 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: as I was voting. She will bring us forward, she 115 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: will turn the. 116 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: Page against this divisive, cruelty and Rhetorican evil. 117 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't stop making fun of these dirty comedies. 118 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying myself right now. I know James probably is too. 119 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Joining me now. My friend James Lindsay, founder of New 120 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Discourses dot com. His latest book, The Queering of the 121 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: American Child, is one every single parent must pick off. 122 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you that, James. I'm sorry. I know 123 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm a bad person, but these tears, I just can't. 124 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't stop enjoying them. 125 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm a little torn on that. But 126 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 6: when it's these high profile people definitely enjoying them, these 127 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 6: people on the TV, these people like Randy Winingarten, that 128 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 6: are running teachers unions and driving our country into the ground. 129 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 6: But I suspect Randy's tears are fake. I think that 130 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 6: was pretend we can say Communism's are religion, but I 131 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 6: don't even know. I think she actually might be so 132 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: craven that she doesn't even believe her own religion than 133 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: just does evil because she likes to. 134 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should clarify. I feel the exact 135 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: same way. I actually have more mercy than people think 136 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: for the street animals, because they're dumb or mentally challenged, 137 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and they've been lied to repeatedly, and so they actually 138 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: are sad and they've gone insane. But evil monsters like that, 139 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: they're not sad. They know everything they say is lies, 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and they manipulate the dumb people in our society. And 141 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I really, really I think they're evil, not bad, deeply evil. 142 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 7: James, Yeah, I totally agree. 143 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 6: Like the last at least eight years, for certain, but 144 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 6: more than that, longer than that, we have been subjected 145 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 6: to an unbelievable, deliberate propaganda campaign designed to drive the 146 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 6: American people crazy. We could actually go back a little 147 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 6: further to twenty twelve. President Obama modernized as they call 148 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 6: it the Smith Munt Act. 149 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 7: The Smith Mund Act goes back to just after World War. 150 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 6: Two and it prohibited the intelligence communities and the federal 151 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 6: government from using our media apparatus to propagandize American citizens. 152 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 6: And they modernized it for social media in twenty twelve 153 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 6: under Obama's direction, and whoops removed that part about not 154 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 6: being allowed to propagandize the American people. And so we've 155 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: been subject to communist government propaganda since at least twenty 156 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 6: thirteen in this country, and it has driven people to 157 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: Trump derangement syndrome, to COVID derangement, to all of these 158 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 6: identity politics and sanity that we've seen for the last 159 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 6: several years that are tearing our country apart. And it's 160 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: important that we get to a place where we can 161 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 6: turn the propaganda machine, the propaganda death star. We can 162 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: turn that thing off and then free the American people. 163 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: And we'll see a lot of these dumb, misled, sad 164 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 6: street animals come back to come back to the fold. 165 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: And I think that that's the right view to have, James. 166 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: It's not uncommon at all right now to see, especially 167 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: on social media, you'll have one of these people bragging 168 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: about how they just done invited mom to Thanksgiving, they've 169 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: caught off all ties with their father at a heartbreaking 170 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Ashley email to my show about a father whose daughter 171 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: disowned the family and left the group chat over the 172 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. People don't realize that this is very purposeful 173 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: that Communists wedge themselves into the family. They don't know 174 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: about the things that Stazi used to do, that Mao 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: used to do. They don't know the Communists break up 176 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: families on purpose. It's not a whoopsie. They do this 177 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: on purpose. 178 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 6: That's right, and more broadly, not to take away attention 179 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 6: from the dirty commedies who deserve the attention here. But 180 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 6: this is cult behavior. So even if you're still out 181 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 6: there somehow listening to Jesse Kelly and on the fence 182 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 6: about whether or not this is communism, you cannot be 183 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: on the fence about whether or not this is a cult. 184 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 6: And Communism is the largest, most destructive death cult the 185 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: humans have ever created, capturing the lives of over a 186 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 6: billion people, destroying and I mean literally murdering somewhere in 187 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 6: the neighborhood of one hundred to two hundred million people 188 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: over the last century. Communism is a cult, and so 189 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: it has to separate people from their families to what 190 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 6: they call to establish what's called milu control. They have 191 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 6: to separate people from their families so they'll forget who 192 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: they are and will see themselves only through the communist 193 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 6: ideology and its application through the state. 194 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: That's the same reason they love to tear down statues 195 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: and renamed streets as well. On a larger level, the 196 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: same reason it's about erasing your history, unmooring you from 197 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: your past, so they can write your future. 198 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 6: You might say, it's about being able to see what 199 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 6: can be, unburdened by what has been. Is actually the 200 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 6: beating heart of the communist project. And yeah, renaming streets, 201 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 6: tear dame statues, tearing you apart from your family. Not 202 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 6: only are these communists bread and butter, going back to 203 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 6: the Bolsheviks and Russia into the Chinese, the PRC in China. 204 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 6: When we look at the Chinese case, what mal Zeidong 205 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: did during the cult, you had young people. 206 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 7: Renaming themselves with new revolutionary names. 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 6: It's exactly like the trans phenomenon, people giving themselves new 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 6: names with their old dead name. You had statues coming down, 209 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: you had streets being renamed to revolutionary terms, and the 210 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 6: whole idea was to tear down all of the like 211 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 6: you said, all of the mooring, all of the tethering 212 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: to the old society, so that all that there was 213 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 6: for young people was the Communist vision for what was 214 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: coming for their lives in the future. And they would 215 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 6: get these kids whipped up on this, thinking that their 216 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 6: lives were going to be great once they destroyed all 217 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 6: of their class enemies, including their parents who had to 218 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 6: be denounced, including their grandparents, their teachers, their religions, everything 219 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 6: in society that existed had to be torn. 220 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 7: Apart and destroyed. 221 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 6: And for about two years there was mayhem in China 222 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: sixty six to sixty eight while the young people the 223 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: Red Guard went wild doing this until Mao got his 224 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 6: power back and then kicked them all out to the 225 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 6: countryside to live in misery and die. 226 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: You know what couldn't happen to better kids, I'll tell 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: you that much. Okay, the trans stuff, it almost seems 228 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: that maybe maybe I'm wrong on this, and almost feels 229 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: like we kind of hit a bottom in our society 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: on this. Please pardon the pun with that, but it 231 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: feels like we've reached a stopping point there where it 232 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: was it went so far, it got so in your face, 233 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: it got so gross to the American people said no, 234 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: but the American people don't really understand what that was about. 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: What was it about. 236 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 237 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: So one of the things that I'm most proud of 238 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 6: is in twenty nineteen, so way back five years ago. 239 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 6: Last month, I predicted that if they ever went fully 240 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 6: public with the trans stuff and the queer theory, that 241 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: it would be their undoing, and it appears to have 242 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 6: been that. I think that that was the primary mover 243 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 6: for a lot of people who voted for Trump, and 244 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 6: especially a lot of new voters for Trump, who are 245 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 6: abandoning the Democratic Party and voting Republican for the first 246 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: time in their lives. And what they don't understand still, 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 6: and I guess this is a mission for me to 248 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 6: try to educate them, is that queer theory is directly 249 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 6: a derivative of Marxism. It's not just about finding out 250 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 6: who you really are. It's about adopting an intentionally oppositional 251 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 6: politics that is oriented against anything being considered normal or 252 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: legitimate unless the cult itself approves it, and it uses 253 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 6: a Marxist line of division that certain people consider themselves 254 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 6: to be normal, so they're privileged, and other people are 255 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 6: not considered normal, so they're oppressed by the idea of 256 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 6: normalcy and legitimacy themselves. And so they take upon this 257 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: idea that they can transform their sex, transform who they are, 258 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 6: rename themselves as a usually to make themselves extremely ugly 259 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: or scary or something, or to enact sexual fetishism, whatever else, 260 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: as a way to disrupt normal society intentionally. It's not 261 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: just about having brainwashed and created social pressures or social 262 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: contagions for kids. It is a deliberate attempt to destabilize children, 263 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: to turn them into a revolutionary class that will tear 264 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: apart society. 265 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: All right, so we know why communists destroyed, children destroy families. 266 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: How do we without getting the government freaking involves because 267 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: they'll screw it up? How do we encourage families going forward? James, mothers, fathers. 268 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: How do we strengthen families so we never have to 269 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: get a text message from our daughter that she's on 270 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: inviting us from Thanksgiving? How do we do this? 271 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 6: You know, honestly, and I know this is a big 272 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: theme that resonates with you that we got in this 273 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 6: mess because a lot of people were comfortable enough to 274 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 6: live their lives on autopilot. People have been parenting on autopilot. 275 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 6: They've been just assuming that it's absolutely natural, for example, 276 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 6: to send your kids to government run schools, running government 277 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 6: programming with not really to even know what's going on 278 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 6: with that government programming, and just trust your kids with 279 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: the government for you know, forty hours a week. This 280 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 6: is all kind of got to change. It's got to 281 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 6: be no more parenting on autopilot. Let's get intentional parenting. 282 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 6: And when you get your mindset right about this, this 283 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 6: is actually not this you know, burden that the left 284 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 6: has led us to think that interacting with your family, 285 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 6: having children, doing things with them, getting to know them, 286 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: spending intentional time with them is sometimes somehow a burden 287 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 6: from your the better part of the rest of your life. Now, 288 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 6: this is a very enriching phenomenon. And you talk to 289 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 6: most conservatives, they understand they spend a lot of time 290 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: with their family. They enrich that time with their family. 291 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: So what parents need to be doing is a protecting 292 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: their children from the schoolst large public, especially private also, 293 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 6: but they also need to be spending a lot of 294 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: intentional time with them, teaching them about the road that 295 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 6: they're going to walk, which is filled with this kind 296 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 6: of garbage that the kids are going to have to navigate. 297 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 6: They should not hear about this stuff for the first 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 6: time from their friends or on social media even worse, 299 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 6: and parents are going to have to be very intentional. 300 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 6: Spend time, make sure your kids know, absolutely know that 301 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 6: you love them and that they can come to you 302 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: with anything that they see at their school or whatever 303 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: that is inappropriate that says to keep secrets from their 304 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 6: parents and build that relationship. Spend time, get to know 305 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: your kids, have family dinners, all the stuff that makes 306 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 6: a family a family. Start doing it again, and that's 307 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 6: going to be the number one protection is to stop 308 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 6: parenting on autopilot and get very involved. Whether it's your 309 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 6: kids everyday lives, their friends, groups, their religion, take them 310 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 6: to church, do church as a family every Sunday. It 311 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 6: doesn't really even matter if you're that religious. To find 312 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 6: a good church teaching good values and go together as 313 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 6: a family churches or places where people are trying to 314 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 6: become better people on purpose in and of themselves, and 315 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 6: it's a very pro family environment, So I encourage that, 316 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 6: and it doesn't matter. Also, if it's their educational environment, 317 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 6: get very involved all the way to the point if 318 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 6: you can of homeschooling, you get very involved in your 319 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 6: kid's educational process. 320 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 7: No more autopilot. 321 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: Oh. I would encourage the ladies out there, if you 322 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: so desire, consider substitute teaching in your child's school. My 323 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: wife does that and it has gotten her intimately more 324 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: involved in their education, what they're learning, the administration, the 325 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: problems that may come. James, you are the man. My 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: brother appreciates you as always. All Right, we're not done yet. 327 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: Cernovich is going to join us next. 328 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: I want us as a Republican party to be pro 329 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 8: family in the fullest sense of the word. I want 330 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 8: us to support fertility treatments. I want us to make 331 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 8: it easier for moms to afford to have babies. I 332 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 8: want it to make it easier for young families to 333 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 8: afford a home so they can afford a place to 334 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 8: raise that family. And I think there's so much that 335 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 8: we can do on the public policy front just to 336 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 8: give women more options. 337 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I like it. I like hearing the GOP start to 338 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: talk this way, because family is everything. So much more 339 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: important than party or anything else. Do you want to 340 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: save a country, save the American family? Joining me now, 341 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: my friend Mike Cernovitch, who talks about this stuff a 342 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: lot author filmmakers. Go subscribe to his substack, which is outstanding. 343 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: I should note, Mike, I like that the Republican Party, 344 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: as many problems as I have with it, as finally 345 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: starting to get bolder about speaking about family and the 346 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: importance of it. It's a relief to me. 347 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, they used to talk, they used to talk about it, 348 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: and then suddenly it didn't become an issue. Right James 349 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: Dobson focus on the family, even if he was at 350 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: the time way too conservative for me. But now I 351 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 5: look back and think maybe those maybe those fundies had 352 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: a point because a lot of the stuff that they 353 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: would talk about and you would dismiss, especially when you're younger, 354 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 5: came to fruition. So yeah, it used to be focused 355 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: on the family. Everything was about family values, and then 356 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 5: it became about tax cuts a couple couple percentages here 357 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 5: or there, which is great. I'll take a tax cut, 358 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: but getting people to believe in your political party is 359 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: very difficult when that is your sole messaging to people is, hey, 360 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: we'll save you five percent this year. But again, I'll 361 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 5: take I don't want some idiot to chop this up 362 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: and say, oh, you know, bro, you like high taxes. 363 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: But it obviously wasn't doing the job. 364 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Mike, Why did we become the party of tax cuts? 365 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: How did that happen? And again I'm with Mike, please 366 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: don't raise my taxes. Like I'm all about the tax cuts. 367 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: But why did we ever get away from it? What 368 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: happened that pushed us away from it? 369 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: It was definitely the chamber of commerce Republicans. That's what 370 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: brought in open borders. That's what brought in cheap labor. 371 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 5: Mitt Romney, Bank Capital, Paul Ryan loses Wisconsin when he 372 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 5: runs his VP. Trump wins Wisconsin twice, maybe three times, 373 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: depending on who you talk to. They, of course, Republicans 374 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: lose twice to Obama, which shouldn't have been difficult. Should 375 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: have been a difficult victory to obtain that. Yeah, we 376 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: allowed the corporate side to control and dictate policy. And 377 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: if you're the corporate side, or if you're these Republican senators, 378 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: you don't mind losing because the money's still good. You're 379 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: playing both sides you're getting like the vig right, sort 380 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: of like those when people gamble. 381 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 4: The real winners aren't the people who win the bet. 382 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: The real winner is always a house, right, You're working that, 383 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 5: and that was what the Republican Party largely was and 384 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: was going to continue to be, because if Trump had 385 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 5: won in twenty sixteen, I was laugh at these alternative 386 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: histories where they said, well, now, of course they looks 387 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 5: stupid because Trump won the popular vote. But people need 388 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: to remember that we're being told as early as a 389 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: year or two ago. Gosh, it's too bad that Hillary 390 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 5: didn't win in twenty sixteen, because then in twenty twenty 391 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: they would have had Paul Ryan or some of great 392 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: Republican won in twenty twenty, when in fact, it would 393 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: have been the end of the Republican Party as. 394 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: We know it. 395 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Could you imagine four years of Paul Ryan, How freaking 396 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: worthless we would be? Mike, why are families the building 397 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: block of country? I mean, I've put it in my 398 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: own words already on this show, but what is it 399 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: about a nuclear family that makes an entire country better? 400 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been said. I'm not the first one 401 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: to say it, of course, but the most patriotic thing 402 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: you can do is go marry somebody and stay married 403 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: and make a bunch of babies and be there and 404 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: raise your family. 405 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: But why, Well, it's an investment in the future. 406 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: The question is why goes into religion or a meaning 407 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: of life issue that a lot of people don't realize 408 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 5: until they're there, right you think? I remember when I 409 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: have a first kid. We had a picture. My wife 410 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 5: kind of took a picture because I was a little 411 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: punch drunk. It was an interesting moment, but I'd also thought, 412 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 5: what the world have you gotten yourself into? 413 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: Everything was pretty easy in your life. 414 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 5: So I think that goes to the trend of how 415 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 5: the Republican Party lost touch with family. Is a lot 416 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: of people, myself included, I don't pretend to be above 417 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: these failings, had an extended adolescence. 418 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: You see that a lot where there's an. 419 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: Emphasis on fun. Oh that's fun, and everything's fun. Everything's 420 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 5: about fun. But eventually the men, the men are gonna 421 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 5: hit the wall too, where nothing is really fun anymore. 422 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 5: And then you're at home alone and people people like 423 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: to carpetrure with jdv And said about cat ladies, and 424 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: of course he didn't say what it was reported. But 425 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 5: there is a type of a cat man too, and 426 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: it's a bit more of a bleak outcome for men 427 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: because women are more social. So the man, I'm gonna 428 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: have fun, I'm gonna enjoy my life. I'm gonna listen 429 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 5: to all these red pill podcasts and talk about how women, 430 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 5: you know, shouldn't vote, and you know, we hate the 431 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 5: women and everything, and that's that's kind of cool when 432 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: you're in your thirties. 433 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, I don't think. I don't think it's cool, 434 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: but you can get away with it. But you're gonna 435 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: hit the wall too. Man, you're gonna be You're gonna 436 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: be a cat man too. 437 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And and men are choosing this a lot now, Mike, 438 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: And I hate it because you you mentioned something that 439 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: I've really really noticed a lot. Maybe it's picking up. 440 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just getting older, and I noticed that more 441 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of young men who are very understandably despondent. 442 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: They're angry, their their life isn't what they wanted to be. 443 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: They've really checked out on the whole family thing. I 444 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: hate women. I hate when women suck, and so they 445 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: don't desire a family. A lot of young people are shocking. 446 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: The high percentage of young people don't want to get married, 447 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to have kids. It's just misery to them. 448 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: And it saddens me more than anything. Like how many 449 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: miserable men we have. 450 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 5: Is a part of the meaning crisis or the spiritual crisis, 451 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 5: or the virtue crisis, depending on how people want to 452 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: describe it. 453 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 4: But I heard a great speaking of kids. That was 454 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 4: the boy. That was the boy. 455 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: So speaking of what she just invaded there, there's a 456 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 5: great omily I heard from Father Sarah from Rose and 457 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 5: he's an Orthodox monk and he might be a saint 458 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: at some point in time, but he great this. He 459 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: gave this great omily on fun and how and it 460 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: convicted me. 461 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 4: This isn't me convicting. It convicted me. 462 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 5: Where it said that a hundred years ago you would 463 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 5: have sounded like a very silly person, especially as a man, 464 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 5: when all you talk about is fun. That's fun, that 465 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: sounds fun. When did we get this Western spiritual condition 466 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 5: where our life didn't become about virtue or duty or obligation, 467 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: but it's all about how much. 468 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: Fun can we have? 469 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 5: And that that's trickled downstream, which is, hey, I'm a 470 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: man and I want to have fun, and I'm not. 471 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 5: I'm not here to say don't enjoy life. I would 472 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: say I enjoy life, you know, probably more than a 473 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: lot of people. But I heard that, and I felt 474 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: so convicted my heart, and I even thought, I want 475 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 5: to eliminate the term fun at least when I talk 476 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: about myself from my vocabulary. I don't want to hear, oh, hey, hey, 477 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 5: you know, go talk to Jesse. It'll be fun. 478 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 4: I sure it is. 479 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: I you know, this is this is fun to me. 480 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: But I try not to think of that way at all. 481 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 5: And I realized, yeah, we were, whether we knew it 482 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 5: or not, this childish mindset had trickled down to us, 483 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: and we had rejected any kind of Roman understanding of virtue, 484 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: of strength, of purpose, of shouldering a burden. Again, myself included, 485 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: I want to just yell at the young guys, right, 486 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 5: that's not it at all. 487 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: I was certainly there. 488 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 5: And once you're living just for fun, you would see 489 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: children as a interruption of the parties. So it's easy 490 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: for men on these redicill podcasts to say a woman 491 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: got an abortion because she wanted to keep partying. It's like, well, 492 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 5: who fornicated with her? 493 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Right? 494 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: Who got her pregnant? 495 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 5: Some guy you know who just wants to have fun 496 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: and he want to have a kid either, he probably 497 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: told her to get one, and half the time he 498 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 5: probably even paid for it. So why is it all 499 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: the time we're just talking about women and how they're 500 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 5: not taking accountability for anything. But you don't realize that 501 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 5: the man mind has been infected with this childishness and 502 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: this obsession with everything has to be entertaining and everything 503 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 5: has to be fun. 504 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, it really is. Mike. You talk a 505 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: lot about you know, to raise kids, you have to 506 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: raise yourself. What are you talking about? 507 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: So something that I found influential in our parenting and 508 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: homeschooling with Charlotte Mason. There's all these principles of the 509 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 5: Charlotte Mason pedagogy, and you know, one of them is 510 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: that you treat children as a whole being, that children 511 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 5: aren't little things, at least what I was treated as 512 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 5: a kid. Children should be seen, not her, But children 513 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: are actually people. They are little people at different stages 514 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 5: of development. And then you want to think of am 515 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 5: I treating my child like a person, like a whole person, 516 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 5: like a real person, And most of us would realize 517 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 5: that if you treated your friends the way you treat 518 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: your kids sometimes, if you treated yourself the way you 519 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 5: treat you the kids, sometimes it wouldn't really stand up, 520 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 5: It wouldn't really make a lot of sense, and that 521 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 5: wouldn't even necessarily be effective. And then as you go 522 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 5: deeper into that, you think, why am I mad at 523 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: my kid? Well, I'm mad at my kid because I 524 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 5: feel a loss of control. Well why do I feel 525 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 5: a loss of control? And then why is it that 526 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 5: feeling a loss of control should upset me? Why should 527 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: why should I care? And then why should I have 528 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: this emotional state internalized and then externalize it to those 529 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: people around me? Because that doesn't work in your marriage, 530 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 5: so why would that work with children? So you realize 531 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: that your children are shining a mirror onto you. Right, 532 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 5: there's a quote, no, no man is a hero to 533 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: his butler, No man is a hero to his valet, 534 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 5: the implication being that somebody who is with you all 535 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 5: the time maybe doesn't buy the hype the way people 536 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: who see you only in your highlight real moments would 537 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: do it. And of course, with children, you're kind of 538 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: their hero at a certain age, although that changes. But 539 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: what I found with children is that they, you know, 540 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: they they're a mirrorund you. So one example that's kind 541 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: of stupid, but I remember my kid would come up 542 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: and be like, hey, yah, let's get some chocolate and 543 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 5: the fridge and I pause of it and I go, well, no, you, 544 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 5: you don't need any more chocolate. 545 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: And I thought, I don't need any more chocolate. 546 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: The kid just knows to follow me to the fridge 547 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 5: to get a little seized can or a piece of chocolate. Right, 548 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: So there's these thousand different ways. Is that they're showing 549 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: you who you are because you go through life in 550 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: an automatic pattern and you're realizing, oh, they're they're showing 551 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: me that part of myself where they're showing me that 552 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: how but I didn't realize that. I wasn't even conscious 553 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: of that. I was running on an autopilot. And then 554 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 5: you realize that most of the time you're upset with 555 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 5: your kids, it isn't that they've done some irredeemable sin 556 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: that really, you know, because as a father you sometimes 557 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 5: have to lay down the law. Everybody knows that we're 558 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: not we're not denying that. But sometimes you realize, you know, 559 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 5: I'm just in a bad mood. I'm just in a 560 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: bad mood, and this has nothing to do with my kids. 561 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: So I need to figure out, like why am in 562 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: a bad mood? And why am I going to let 563 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 5: my emotional state dictate how I even feel right now, 564 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: let alone how I parents. So there's this constant feedback 565 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 5: mechanism happening as you raise children in a way that 566 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: is very intense, and I think that that's why people 567 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: find parenting challenging. Is the work is the work, you know, 568 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 5: but oh well, you miss some sleep. The work is 569 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: the work, it's the emotional realization, especially for people who 570 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: have never because they amin themselves or try to improve themselves, 571 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: you realize that it is a raw nerve if you're 572 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: not conscious and. 573 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Aware of it, no doubt about it, you know, And 574 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to be human in front of him. I 575 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: snapped at mind the other day just because I was 576 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: in a bad mood. Had to go home and apologize 577 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: to him that night and own the whole thing. Freaking sucked. Mike, 578 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: you are the man, of course, thank you, my brother. 579 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: All right, I'd be roth. That's going to join us 580 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: talk a bit about motherhood. 581 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 9: Next, we will promote positive education about the nuclear family, 582 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 9: the roles of mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than 583 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 9: erasing the things that make men and women different and unique. 584 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: I am liking a lot of what I'm seeing. But remember, 585 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: like we've talked about in the open families, the nuclear family, 586 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: men and women getting married and making babies. That is 587 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: the building block of every single society. But how how 588 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: do we move forward? How do we get back to that? 589 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Joining me now, Abby Roth, creator of the first generation, 590 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: She's also a stay at home mom. Obviously, Abby's joined 591 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: us many times before. Okay, Abby, Obviously we don't want 592 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: the government and the business of family because the government 593 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: just screws up everything the government's involved in. However, it 594 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: would be naive to think governments can't at least encourage 595 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: people one way or the other. What do we want 596 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: what do we not want out of the government when 597 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: it comes to families. 598 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 10: I mean, it's always so important to encourage family, strong families. 599 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 10: I mean, that's the basis of civilization, it's the basis 600 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 10: of good societies. Having a mom and a dad at home, 601 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 10: it lowers crime rates, It means there's less anxiety in 602 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 10: young children if you have stay at home moms with 603 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 10: their children for the first three years. Encouraging strong families 604 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 10: is what's going to lead to a stronger a stronger America, 605 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 10: and so having a president being a big proponent of 606 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 10: that and being a proponent of the differences between men 607 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 10: and women is incredible. Should government be incredibly involved in families? 608 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 7: No? 609 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: Should government also be big proponents of families. 610 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 10: Yes, And we should have traditional families being at the 611 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 10: forefront of all of this, right, because traditional families are 612 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 10: what create strong children and create great members of society. 613 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: Abby, you've mentioned the anxiety thing. I want you to 614 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit more. I'm sure you 615 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: didn't know where you were going to go there. I 616 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: didn't know where you were going to go there, either, 617 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: But it's true. My wife's been hot on this for 618 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: a while. Wells that people think, you know, with kids, 619 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: especially when they're super young from zero to three, that 620 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: maybe what's happening is not having a big impact because 621 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: their brains are good and still spreading food all over 622 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: their eyes, and you think to yourself, well, I'm not 623 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: even really here for anything but clean up. But it 624 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: actually has a big impact on the rest of their lives, 625 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 626 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 10: This is something that drives me a little crazy. I 627 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 10: was at an event with a bunch of women and 628 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 10: they were saying, you know, it's really not important to 629 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 10: be with your kids in those early years. Those early years, 630 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 10: as someone in a daycare can do just as much 631 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 10: as you can. It's more important to be available in 632 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 10: the later years. 633 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: And I was sitting there thinking. 634 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 10: You mean, the most important time for a child's brains formation, 635 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 10: we should not be involved. 636 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: It's a crazy concept. 637 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 10: Erica Kamassar's book Being There really goes into this whole 638 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 10: idea that those first three years are when a child's 639 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 10: brain and neural connections are developed, and as parents, it's 640 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 10: our responsibility to give our children the best basis to 641 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 10: be whole human beings that we can, and when mothers 642 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 10: are present in those first three years, we see a 643 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 10: way lower anxiety rate. I mean, I think the most 644 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 10: interesting element in Erica Kamassar's book that stood out. 645 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: To me was the idea that there are genetic. 646 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 10: Kind of things that are in little babies and those 647 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 10: will not present if mothers are there with their children 648 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 10: because anxiety is what causes those to express themselves, those 649 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 10: genetic problems to express themselves. Those anxieties are lowered when 650 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 10: babies are with their mothers, and so those genetic things 651 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 10: don't end up expressing. 652 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 3: And if the child is in a daycare or is 653 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: constantly separated from. 654 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 10: Mom, those genetic problems will express. And that's how you 655 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 10: have a whole anxious, anxious generation, right because you've got 656 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 10: children who are not being or not being raised by 657 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 10: mom and dad in those early years. They're really being 658 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 10: put in daycares from the time they're six weeks old, 659 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 10: twelve weeks old and being fourced to deal with hours 660 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 10: and hours of separation from their primary caregivers from an 661 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 10: age that they cannot comprehend or understand what's happening to them. 662 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: You have an article, it's a very good article in 663 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: the Daily Wire talking about why women voted for Trump. 664 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone remembers the election we just had. In 665 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: the lead up to it, every single ad was something 666 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: about how women are in danger, women are gonna die, women, women, women. 667 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: The entire basis around the Democrat campaign was centered around women. 668 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: And then women other than the young single ones went 669 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: out and voted for Donald Trump. Why it. 670 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 10: Honestly, I thought it was so funny the ad campaigns. 671 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 10: It was there were two ad campaigns going on. One 672 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 10: was you're a woman, so you have to vote for 673 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 10: a woman, and the second thing was your rights are 674 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 10: on the line, and if you don't vote for Kamala Harris, 675 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 10: then you are against women. And women are not someceless 676 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 10: horde that can just be driven into the ground by 677 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 10: stupid by stupid sayings like that, we're not going to 678 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 10: just all vote as one because you told us that 679 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 10: we are women and so we have to vote for 680 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 10: a woman, or because Donald Trump is Satan incarnate. 681 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: And so we have to vote for the other side. No, 682 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: women are individuals. 683 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 10: And so we looked at, honestly, I think our grocery bills. 684 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 3: We looked at, you know. 685 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 10: The problems with the border and a legal immigration and 686 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 10: all the crime that has resulted. We looked at our 687 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 10: children being put in danger because of all of the 688 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 10: policies around transgenderism. And we looked at abortion and we 689 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 10: realized that this is a crazy notion to say that 690 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 10: we should have abortion up until the ninth month because 691 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 10: our daughters deserve a future. 692 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: What about the daughters and our wounds. 693 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 10: I think a lot of women were thinking, I would 694 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 10: like my child to be born, not I would like 695 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 10: my four year old to have the right to abort 696 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 10: their child when they're twenty eight. Like it's it was all, 697 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 10: I think, just terrible messaging. And I think women voted 698 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 10: on the things that mattered to them, and so they 699 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 10: looked at the options Kamala Harris terrible candidate who happens 700 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 10: to be a woman. And we looked at Donald Trump, 701 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 10: who did a great job last time he was in office, 702 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 10: and my grocery bill wasn't twice what it is now. 703 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 3: And they voted. They voted for the person who made sense. 704 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 10: They didn't vote for someone just because it was a 705 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 10: meme or a punchline. 706 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: Abby a lot of people. I just saw a recent 707 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: study that was one in four. That number is so 708 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: shocking the high. A lot of people were talking. Younger 709 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: people were talking about how they don't want kids for 710 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: financial reasons. Now, it's very easy for someone like you 711 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: or I already established with kids, to say that's crazy. 712 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: You just have them anyway. And of course that would 713 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: be my message. Go make as many babies as you can. 714 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: You might even enjoy yourself. But for young people looking 715 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: at the finances right, it doesn't pencil out. Again, they 716 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: are freaking expensive. Those little bugger by suns at a 717 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: dozen eggs in two days this weekend. What do you 718 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: say to those people? 719 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 10: Well, I think there's, you know, the thing I would 720 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 10: say to people, and also the actual data on the ground. 721 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 10: So the truth is that most people are not making 722 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 10: fundamental decisions about their family size based on their financials. 723 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 10: There have been a lot of economic incentives for people 724 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 10: to have more children, and when those economic incentives come 725 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 10: into play, there's initially a baby boom, but it peters 726 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 10: out and it ends up balancing, and basically what it 727 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 10: does is it encourages people to have children sooner, but 728 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 10: it doesn't encourage them to. 729 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: Have more children. 730 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 10: So I don't think this argument about people having less 731 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 10: children because of the financials and their finances is actually accurate. 732 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: Most people are going to. 733 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 10: Have the amount of children they would like to have 734 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 10: because that's their value set, that's what they want. 735 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: So I think the real question is how do we 736 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,240 Speaker 3: convince young people. 737 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 10: That financially but that's going to There are elements, of course, 738 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 10: that you have to think about when it comes to 739 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 10: the financials of having children. But I think that's what's 740 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 10: even more important, important than that, is instilling the values 741 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 10: of why children are so wonderful, and not only from like, yes, 742 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 10: it's going to make. 743 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: Your life better. 744 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 10: Yes, it's just the most incredible thing you can do 745 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 10: as a stay at home mom with two kids who 746 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 10: wants five or six, Like I'm the biggest proponent of that. 747 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 10: But it's also good for societies. I think we've been 748 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 10: raised in a world that tells people that having children 749 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 10: is bad for the world, right, climate change and all 750 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 10: these things like having babies is bad. 751 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: Actually we're an. 752 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 10: Incredible baby bust right now, which is horrible for like. 753 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: Our economies for. 754 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 10: Really a whole number of reasons that's going to just 755 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 10: not end up panning out well. So having children is 756 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 10: good now from the perspective of financials. I know so 757 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 10: many people who, because they know the importance of having children, 758 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 10: are willing to live with less. And I think that's 759 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 10: really the hardest thing to get across to people is 760 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 10: what you think is a fundamental necessity or baseline is 761 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 10: actually much more than people have ever had in history, 762 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 10: And so you don't necessarily need two brand new cars. 763 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 10: You don't necessarily need to get coffee every morning from Starbucks. 764 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 4: Like there are. 765 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 10: Things that you don't need that you will you know, 766 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 10: it will pay dividends having children, because children are so 767 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 10: much more important than that Starbucks frappuccino that you are craving. Like, 768 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 10: having that child is going to make more sense in 769 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 10: the long run because even outside of the financials, right, 770 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 10: if you don't have children and you're in your sixties, seventies, eighties, 771 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 10: who is. 772 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 3: Going to take care of you when you're older? You 773 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 3: are going to be alone? 774 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 10: And there is something so beautiful, beautiful in the life 775 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 10: cycle where your children you take care of them and 776 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 10: then they take care of you. 777 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 3: So I could go out and on about it, but 778 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: I won't. 779 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold you back. Starbucks isn't even 780 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: very good anyway. The breakfast options are just awful. They 781 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: have these little sandwiches and there's never any sauce or 782 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: anything like that with the sandwiches. I don't even like Starbucks. Abby, 783 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate it as always. We'll 784 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: be back, Okay. I know this is a conversation that 785 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: gets uncomfortable when we have these specials and we talk 786 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: about families, and I understand why it gets uncomfortable people 787 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: who who don't necessarily have that, or it's not in 788 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: the cards for them, or something they feel judged. Well, 789 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 1: I don't have that, Jesse. I'm a single mom. There's 790 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: no judgment here. We're talking about how to build a 791 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: nation and where we want to go as a nation. 792 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: And where we want to go as a nation is 793 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: a nation of strong nuclear families. If the United States 794 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: of America, if you told me fifty years from now, 795 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: we would have more nuclear families that are together and 796 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: strong than we do now. I don't need to know 797 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: anything else about what's going on fifty years from now. 798 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't need to know about the debt, or the 799 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: border or anything else that alone would tell me are 800 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: we going to be okay or not. And if you 801 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: told me fifty years so now we had fewer nuclear 802 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: families than we have today, more broken homes, then I 803 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: don't need to know anything else. I don't need to 804 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: know who's president, which party. I don't need to know 805 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: anything else. I know we will be worse off. Let's 806 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: be purposeful about this. Let's talk to our children about this. Mate, 807 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: Let's make sure our leaders, our political leaders, speak openly 808 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: and boldly about this. It matters a lot. All Right, 809 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: all right, we'll do it again.