WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: How Quisha King is Fighting Educational Indoctrination

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Martha Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Keisha King.

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha is host of The Keisha King Show and the

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<v Speaker 1>founder of the Mass Exodus movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Kisha, is so nice to have you on.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Carol, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and I were very much in the school

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<v Speaker 1>trenches together over the last few years. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>such a fan of yours and we've met on a

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<v Speaker 1>number of occasions. I think you're just terrific. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you get into this world?

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<v Speaker 2>What made you go be an activist?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first some we say thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>I love everything that you've done as well the book

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you're quoted of.

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<v Speaker 2>My book I interviewed you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, that's right, And I was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the first purchasers. I must say, as.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone, thank you, very appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. Yeah. So I got into this world a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit differently than most people. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a spiritual experience. I was having a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>about BLM with a close family member and I said

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to go look up the statistics on

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<v Speaker 3>the unarmed black men and police interactions and looked it

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<v Speaker 3>up and I was completely blown away. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>less than ten and I didn't really know what to

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<v Speaker 3>make of it, because you know, there were all these riots.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are all these riots happening when clearly there's more

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<v Speaker 3>of an issue with black on black crime, and so

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<v Speaker 3>just pondering the stuff, I started doing more research, found

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Thomas Soule, Walter William's Milton Friedman, and my mind

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<v Speaker 3>was just completely blown away. I was sitting on my couch.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast forward a few months later, and the Lord spoke

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<v Speaker 3>to my heart and told me that my skin color

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<v Speaker 3>had become an idol in my life, and it just

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<v Speaker 3>it changed my life. I felt like ten thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 3>had been lifted off of me. I really truly felt free.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many people know the the oppression

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<v Speaker 3>narrative that you're born into. You know, it's a black

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<v Speaker 3>American I mean, you hear everywhere. And with God telling

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<v Speaker 3>me this, it was just, you know, it was life

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<v Speaker 3>changing because he was pointing me back to this is

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<v Speaker 3>who I said you are, and it just gave me

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<v Speaker 3>confidence and reassured me and just pointed me back in

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<v Speaker 3>the right direction. And then I felt sort of this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, usher ushering into politics, and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, Like I got the revelation like all that

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff. I'm cool, I don't really want to go

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<v Speaker 3>into that world, right, but I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like this, I'll just stop here, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was enough, exactly, And so I just started getting

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<v Speaker 3>involved locally. And then I worked for the RNC during

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty Trump campaign and that's when all the

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<v Speaker 3>school stuff happened. So I'm you know, reading just my

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<v Speaker 3>life has like just completely, you know, blown apart at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Right I was gonna say, did this make make you

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<v Speaker 1>very popular in your world?

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<v Speaker 3>Your not so much? Not so much. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's why I didn't really want to go

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<v Speaker 3>into all of that, but you know, I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>help it. Anyway. I had read all of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all these books and and come across critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't even know at the time it was

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<v Speaker 3>even a thing. I thought it was just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people talking about it, like this is happening here and

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<v Speaker 3>there maybe. But my oldest daughter was asked what pronoun

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<v Speaker 3>she wanted to go by, and the first day of

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<v Speaker 3>her eighth grade year and Carol, we go way back.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, no. And then same teacher a few months

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<v Speaker 3>later comes back and asks the kids, or is rather

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<v Speaker 3>telling the kids that they're oppressed based on their skin phone. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was not having it. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>just I was going to school board meetings. I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>thinking I could just go down there because clearly they

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<v Speaker 3>just need to know that parents to what their children

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<v Speaker 3>to be thought of themselves as oppressed and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to change all this nonsense. They didn't don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, no, all right, So what did they What did

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<v Speaker 2>they say? What did they tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't want they didn't want to hear us. They

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<v Speaker 3>did not want to hear anything that we had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact that there wasn't us was there more

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<v Speaker 2>than just you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So Moms for Liberty was like sort of bubbling

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<v Speaker 3>at the time because they were upset about what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on with their children as well. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>was asked to be a part of that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, thank you, okay, and but eventually I

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<v Speaker 3>did join. So yes, So there was a group of

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<v Speaker 3>parents which was very you know, welcoming and encouraging and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, letting me know that I wasn't alone and

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<v Speaker 3>feeling like, Okay, this is not crazy. I'm not crazy

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<v Speaker 3>for you know, hearing these things and being upset by it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up getting involved with Monster Liberty, became their

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<v Speaker 3>spokes mom, and just started speaking around the country on

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<v Speaker 3>critical race theory and how it was a detriment to

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<v Speaker 3>not just Black Americans but all Americans because we're not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be judged by our skin color. Like we

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<v Speaker 3>did that already, Thank you very much. We're done with that, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>So any regrets about getting into all this, like you

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<v Speaker 1>could have had just the easy, peaceful life and not

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<v Speaker 1>done this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish it had gone differently?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. You know, that's a great question. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>regret any of it. I mean, I've had the death

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<v Speaker 3>threat I've had, you know, people try to lunge at me,

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<v Speaker 3>to attack me, men at that, you know men. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been I've had some pretty crazy instances or incidents

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<v Speaker 3>rather and no, I don't regret it at all. I

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<v Speaker 3>would do it all over again. And matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm double down on everything that I've ever seen because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just everything that's going on in our country,

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<v Speaker 3>it's too much. If we don't speak up about it,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have more. So, you know, no biggie

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<v Speaker 3>to get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's next on the horizon for you? What battles

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<v Speaker 1>are you fighting now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so right now I feel like we are. We've

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<v Speaker 3>been so so much, so many lies have been thrown

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<v Speaker 3>at Americans. You know, we're so blinded with deception. So

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<v Speaker 3>my goal is just to try to help people see

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<v Speaker 3>the truth, like what is really happening? And let's try to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, dig a little bit deeper and see what

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<v Speaker 3>the root of some of these things that we see

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<v Speaker 3>in the news. What's the root of this? And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times you see it's a lot of Marxist

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<v Speaker 3>communist tactics and just infiltration. So that's my goal to

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<v Speaker 3>help enlighten people who see what's going on and try

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<v Speaker 3>to show them like, Okay, here's where these things come from.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think it's a bigger conspiracy honestly than we realize.

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<v Speaker 2>What does the mass epsodist movement do?

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<v Speaker 3>So what we do is we've provided resources for parents

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<v Speaker 3>who want to help their kids get out of the

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<v Speaker 3>public schooling system or into charter schools. We have resources

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<v Speaker 3>on there to show parents what to do, like the

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<v Speaker 3>steps that they need to take to get their kids

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<v Speaker 3>out of the public the government in doctrination camps as

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<v Speaker 3>I like to call them, if there are any other

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<v Speaker 3>available options in your state, showing you how to navigate that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's different websites that we have there. Basically it's a

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<v Speaker 3>resource for parents because you know, every state is different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to you know, pinpoint everything, but it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gets you going in the right direction. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to take that leap and pull your kids out.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that Are you seeing a lot of people wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to do that right now?

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen millions of parents pull their children out

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<v Speaker 3>of these government and doctrination camps since twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>till now. It is only growing and with school choice

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<v Speaker 3>being implemented all over the country, parents realize that they

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<v Speaker 3>want more options when they look and see that these

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<v Speaker 3>reading scores are not you know, they're kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>making them up, you know who as your own child,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can kind of see where they are. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, this is not lining up with what

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<v Speaker 3>I was told on their court part. And so parents

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<v Speaker 3>are deciding that you know that there's more options, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are exercising their rights on those options.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you optimistic about the next few years, Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just an opti mystic person.

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<v Speaker 1>Same so yeah, but I have to say the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years I really was pessimistic about America for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in my life. I really thought, if this

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<v Speaker 1>gets any worse like the twenty twenty, you know, twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>early twenty twenties, the whole pandemic years, the cancel culture,

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<v Speaker 1>the strict conformity on the left, all of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>really thought, we're heading in a really dangerous, terrible direction

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<v Speaker 1>and we might not be able to climb out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to see kind of the backlash to it

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<v Speaker 1>now it's nice, but I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still worried overall. But in general I'm an optimistic person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And I think it's wise to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have that maybe not worry, but just you know, keeping

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<v Speaker 3>your eye out to see what's going on, what's bubbling up,

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<v Speaker 3>what is like what the left is up to, because

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<v Speaker 3>they don't seem to be backing down and this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say it's not a time to kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, rest on our laurels or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 3>because we can see with Another thing that worries me

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<v Speaker 3>is the like all this the rise of the anti

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<v Speaker 3>anti Semitism, like that has First of all, it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of to me came out of nowhere, was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. And then to see some fellow all

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<v Speaker 3>used to be fellow, you know, other people on the

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<v Speaker 3>right starting to chime in on this, Yeah, guy, that

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<v Speaker 3>makes me concern. A friend of mine who digs really

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<v Speaker 3>deep into these topics, was telling me that when you

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<v Speaker 3>see the rise of like anti Semitism, that is like

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<v Speaker 3>a sign that a nation not doing good at all,

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<v Speaker 3>and like all of us, that too was new to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were to me like historically, when you have

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<v Speaker 3>these things, when you have the children being targeted, and

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<v Speaker 3>you have you know, just group specific groups of people,

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<v Speaker 3>just yeah, yes, like that is not a good sign.

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<v Speaker 3>And so historically it hasn't been a good sign, right

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently it's not a good sign. But I've been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Warn people that it's really not about the Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not good for Jews right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the Jews. It's about a real deep

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<v Speaker 1>sickness and society. Like the anti Semitism on the right

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<v Speaker 1>isn't even about I would say, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Really about Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about conspiracy theories and about just falling for the

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<v Speaker 1>most ridiculous conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Theories out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get that people are distrustful of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative or what they've been told, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that are being spread on the right

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<v Speaker 1>are taking that way too far, and that worries me.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Yeah, I mean it should worry all Americans. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this idea that we can't Yes, we have been lied to,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like not about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Something's actually happened. Dinosaurs existed.

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<v Speaker 3>This was so crazy to me, Like it's like I've

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<v Speaker 3>described it as like it's like postmodernists or like history.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we can just get history, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we have all the knowledge now, Carol, and so

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you've learned in the past, that's old, that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's that traditional stuff. We don't need experts, absolutely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>anybody is actually studied on anything. We're just because some

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<v Speaker 3>other experts had been wrong in the past, therefore no

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<v Speaker 3>expertise should exist.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>World is this? Like, this is I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 3>be it's just dumb, like this just dumb. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, it's not smart, it's not even they're not

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<v Speaker 3>good takes, they're not sensible. It just doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>But because a lot of these people that are saying

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<v Speaker 3>this nonsense have huge influence, that is the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>concerns me. It doesn't take much, you know, back to

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<v Speaker 3>Charles Lindbergh and you know, see what he was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>thing like same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a quick break and be right

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<v Speaker 1>back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.

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<v Speaker 2>What keeps you up or what are you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>concerned with?

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<v Speaker 3>My concern is the ability for so many Americans to

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<v Speaker 3>be mass sort of indoctrinate, not sort of, but indoctrinated

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<v Speaker 3>so heavily. That is really because when someone gets indoctrinated,

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<v Speaker 3>like legit indoctrination, which we see like when you start

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<v Speaker 3>believing that a man could be a woman and a

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<v Speaker 3>woman can be a man, like you are fully indoctrinated

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<v Speaker 3>because that is a complete lie. And it's very hard

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<v Speaker 3>to break through those types of that type of brainwashing

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<v Speaker 3>because people really do believed the lie, like it is

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<v Speaker 3>not a theory to them. Anymore. It's not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they have fully internalized this thinking, this world view, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that to me is concerning because it's like, if

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<v Speaker 3>we can't speak to you and get through to you,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we do? So that is the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>that's on my heart. It's been on my heart for

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<v Speaker 3>quite some time, which I'm determined to I'm writing a

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<v Speaker 3>book on this. Oh good, yes, yes, it's so my family.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a history of cult in my family. Wow, okay, strange.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandmother actually passed away in a cult. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I had another family member, a nephew, who was in

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<v Speaker 3>a cult as well. I've actually interviewed him from my book.

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<v Speaker 3>He's out now, thank god. But seeing the left and

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<v Speaker 3>then seeing my family, when I said, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I don't believe in any of these tactics

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<v Speaker 3>and things on the way, I don't believe this ideology.

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<v Speaker 3>The way that they responded as a Christian family was

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<v Speaker 3>very It was jarring to me, and so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, this is not just a belief in

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<v Speaker 3>a political party, you know, like a support for a

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<v Speaker 3>political party. This is like beyond that. And so the

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<v Speaker 3>more I looked into and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>like a cult. And so I've been just digging and

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<v Speaker 3>looking and reading yeah, thank you stuff talks that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this hyperbolic? But the more I read, no, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how cults behave right, So that I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there is typically in a cult, there is a like

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<v Speaker 3>a main character or a main personality, and in this

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<v Speaker 3>particular stance, in this particular instance, it is the Democrat Party.

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<v Speaker 3>All roads lead back to this massive institution, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that they have become the biggest cult in American history.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know that sounds like a pretty Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking forward to reading this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this sounds really interesting? Well, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I've been working on it for a few

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<v Speaker 3>years now, and yeah, I look forward to presenting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll have your back on to talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>more in depth. But I love that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really cool idea.

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<v Speaker 1>What advice would you give your sixteen year old self?

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<v Speaker 3>I probably I would tell myself that it is okay

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<v Speaker 3>to be you. Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna cry. You did the Oprah thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Cry.

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<v Speaker 3>I still struggle with this, just to be quite honest

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<v Speaker 3>of being myself, like, this is what I believe, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I think, and you know, sometimes it is

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<v Speaker 3>sort of out of the box. You know, it's not conventional,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm hit it has blessed me throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, sometimes I just have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of second guessing. So I would tell myself it

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<v Speaker 3>is okay to be yourself. What God has put inside

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<v Speaker 3>of you is good and it is good for you

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<v Speaker 3>to express those things. And yes it may be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit different, but that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you tell your kids? Also?

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I admire my kids, like they old? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you talking with that? So they are eighteen and sixteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, you don't look old enough to have eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Year olds.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither. How old is you have?

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<v Speaker 1>My oldest is fifteen, fifteen, twelve and nine.

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<v Speaker 3>So why didn't I remember? You had three?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, girl and two boys. The girl really tricked us

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<v Speaker 1>into having two more.

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<v Speaker 2>She was too easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, girls are good. Girls are easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell people if you have any saying it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a girl first, and they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to say in it. But you know, jump.

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<v Speaker 2>My joke is if you had control.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to have a girl first, because she really does

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<v Speaker 1>make the whole operation operate a lot smoother.

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<v Speaker 3>They do. They are so different. My little sister has

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<v Speaker 3>five boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, oh yeah, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drive for the girl. And then they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>they got a boy instead, and so they were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>They try? They have contributed to humanities.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I when I joke about having a fourth, my daughter's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not have a fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I used to joke about it, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, well, what if it's another boy, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we gonna do? Exactly, They'll be just too many

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's against them at that point exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've loved this conversation, Kisha. I think you are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave us here with your best tip.

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<v Speaker 2>For my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>How you can improve your life. Get in a quiet

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<v Speaker 3>place and get closer to God. That is what I

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<v Speaker 3>would say. That's how you can improve your life. The

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<v Speaker 3>God of the Bible. That is what I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>has truly guided me throughout my life. And there is

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<v Speaker 3>no match. There is no match, so that would be

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<v Speaker 3>my advice. Get in a quiet place and get closer

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<v Speaker 3>to God. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Find God. Thank you so much for coming on. She

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<v Speaker 2>is Keisha King. Check out the Kisha King Show and

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking forward to this book. Let's let us know

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<v Speaker 2>when it's out.

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<v Speaker 3>Will do. Thank you so much, Carol,