1 00:00:14,996 --> 00:00:38,956 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Malibu has layers. They're the hill people and the 2 00:00:39,036 --> 00:00:43,276 Speaker 1: coast people, the super rich and the homesteaders. What they 3 00:00:43,276 --> 00:00:46,196 Speaker 1: have in common, what's deep in the DNA of this place, 4 00:00:46,796 --> 00:00:51,916 Speaker 1: is that they don't like outsiders. This is a private paradise. 5 00:00:52,836 --> 00:00:55,516 Speaker 1: You can visit, but you can't stay, and you better 6 00:00:55,516 --> 00:00:59,356 Speaker 1: not ask any questions or the walls go up. I 7 00:00:59,436 --> 00:01:01,596 Speaker 1: find that out when I first start trying to report 8 00:01:01,636 --> 00:01:04,876 Speaker 1: on the killing of Tristan Boudett. This is back in 9 00:01:04,916 --> 00:01:07,916 Speaker 1: the summer of twenty eighteen, right after I heard about 10 00:01:07,956 --> 00:01:11,196 Speaker 1: the murder and the near myth. I do what curious 11 00:01:11,196 --> 00:01:14,316 Speaker 1: reporters do. I start making phone calls and coming out 12 00:01:14,356 --> 00:01:18,076 Speaker 1: to Malibu every chance I get. The cops at Lost 13 00:01:18,116 --> 00:01:21,556 Speaker 1: Hill Station want nothing to do with me, someone who's 14 00:01:21,636 --> 00:01:24,516 Speaker 1: not from around here, looking into a series of shooting 15 00:01:24,556 --> 00:01:28,396 Speaker 1: crimes around Malibu, trying to figure out who's responsible for 16 00:01:28,436 --> 00:01:33,556 Speaker 1: Tristan Boudet's death. No thanks. Whenever I do reach someone 17 00:01:33,556 --> 00:01:36,876 Speaker 1: at Lost Hills, they immediately redirect me to headquarters, where 18 00:01:36,876 --> 00:01:42,276 Speaker 1: the outrageously misnamed Sheriff's Information Bureau either ignores me, buries 19 00:01:42,276 --> 00:01:44,836 Speaker 1: me in press releases, or invites me to enter into 20 00:01:44,876 --> 00:01:49,156 Speaker 1: a collaborative partnership, which gives them creative control over how 21 00:01:49,156 --> 00:01:57,396 Speaker 1: I tell their stories. No thanks, but I keep coming 22 00:01:57,396 --> 00:02:01,436 Speaker 1: out to Malibu anyway seeing what I can learn. What's 23 00:02:01,476 --> 00:02:06,756 Speaker 1: going on with this What properties am I ingesting magic? 24 00:02:07,156 --> 00:02:10,876 Speaker 1: That honey on top is rescue? Did you see my Instagram? 25 00:02:11,596 --> 00:02:13,596 Speaker 1: And I keep ending up at this weird health food 26 00:02:13,596 --> 00:02:17,756 Speaker 1: restaurant called Sunlife Organics. That bee pollen comes from a 27 00:02:17,836 --> 00:02:21,316 Speaker 1: region in Spain that is just completely untouched by man. 28 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:26,916 Speaker 1: It's it's the purest. It's ridiculously overpriced, like seventeen dollars 29 00:02:26,916 --> 00:02:31,756 Speaker 1: for a smoothie. It's just so Malibu. If we really 30 00:02:31,876 --> 00:02:35,436 Speaker 1: could somehow get in some magic machine that would take 31 00:02:35,516 --> 00:02:38,556 Speaker 1: us on the journey of the bees and what they 32 00:02:38,596 --> 00:02:41,156 Speaker 1: went through to make that bee pollen, I mean that 33 00:02:41,396 --> 00:02:44,876 Speaker 1: is like it's mind blowing and the nutrients. This is 34 00:02:44,956 --> 00:02:49,236 Speaker 1: Khalil Rafadi, a co founder of Sunlight Organics. We're sitting 35 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:52,476 Speaker 1: in the sunshine outside one of his stores. When I 36 00:02:52,476 --> 00:02:55,036 Speaker 1: asked him about the Boudette murder, he kind of shrugs 37 00:02:55,036 --> 00:02:58,556 Speaker 1: it off. That happened in the hills, not his Malibu. 38 00:02:59,516 --> 00:03:05,076 Speaker 1: It was an isolated event far from home. Malibu Creek 39 00:03:05,076 --> 00:03:09,076 Speaker 1: State Park is mostly an unincorporated Malibu that rugged will 40 00:03:09,116 --> 00:03:12,636 Speaker 1: Olderness north of the coastal city of Malibu, and the 41 00:03:12,676 --> 00:03:17,356 Speaker 1: park's address is technically Calabasas. But even if Rafadi has 42 00:03:17,396 --> 00:03:22,316 Speaker 1: no opinion about the killing, he really gets Malibu, the mystique, 43 00:03:22,356 --> 00:03:26,116 Speaker 1: the image that's his bread and butter, or should I 44 00:03:26,156 --> 00:03:30,236 Speaker 1: say his bee pollen and rescue honey. My experience with 45 00:03:30,636 --> 00:03:35,876 Speaker 1: Malibu has been a very very magical, very multifaceted experience. 46 00:03:36,156 --> 00:03:39,236 Speaker 1: When I was first brought to Malibu, I didn't even 47 00:03:39,236 --> 00:03:41,076 Speaker 1: know Malibu is a real thing. I thought that was 48 00:03:41,156 --> 00:03:44,876 Speaker 1: some sort of a Barbie Doll name or something like that. 49 00:03:45,436 --> 00:03:50,356 Speaker 1: And Malibu's a tourist town. They're only thirteen thousand residents, 50 00:03:51,076 --> 00:03:55,156 Speaker 1: but more than thirteen million people visit every year. Most 51 00:03:55,156 --> 00:03:57,356 Speaker 1: of the people who come to Malibu in search of something, 52 00:03:57,716 --> 00:04:00,716 Speaker 1: the day trippers, they're just not going to find it. 53 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:03,596 Speaker 1: The first thing tourist say. I mean, and I've had 54 00:04:03,636 --> 00:04:07,396 Speaker 1: this question asked to me, no joke, a hundred times. 55 00:04:08,316 --> 00:04:12,276 Speaker 1: Where's Malibu? And I'm like, this is it? Like, yes, 56 00:04:12,396 --> 00:04:17,036 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga lives here, but she doesn't want you to 57 00:04:17,076 --> 00:04:20,036 Speaker 1: know that, and you're never going to see her house 58 00:04:21,396 --> 00:04:24,076 Speaker 1: the Malibu that we get to enjoy and get to 59 00:04:24,156 --> 00:04:29,236 Speaker 1: experience is not available for the public. Have you ever 60 00:04:29,276 --> 00:04:33,036 Speaker 1: heard the expression that Pink Bubble used to describe Malibu, 61 00:04:33,916 --> 00:04:39,516 Speaker 1: pink bubble rose tinted glasses. Sure, this isn't reality. This 62 00:04:39,716 --> 00:04:45,076 Speaker 1: is definitely not reality. I mean this is There's nothing 63 00:04:45,516 --> 00:04:54,116 Speaker 1: on this planet that equals this. It is the most magical, healing, powerful, 64 00:04:54,956 --> 00:05:02,116 Speaker 1: strange at times, pretentious and shallow at times highly highly spiritual. 65 00:05:03,876 --> 00:05:07,476 Speaker 1: There's an energy here that you cannot put your finger on, 66 00:05:07,556 --> 00:05:10,956 Speaker 1: and you cannot describe it. And it is something that 67 00:05:10,996 --> 00:05:14,556 Speaker 1: will make you if you allow it and you accept it, 68 00:05:14,596 --> 00:05:18,156 Speaker 1: and you honor and you respect it. And there's an 69 00:05:18,236 --> 00:05:21,116 Speaker 1: energy out here that will fucking bury you if you don't, 70 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:32,236 Speaker 1: and you will lose your mind and you will go crazy. 71 00:05:35,756 --> 00:05:39,276 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think Malibu actually has a lot to 72 00:05:39,316 --> 00:05:44,396 Speaker 1: do with these crimes. I'm Dana Goodyear and this is 73 00:05:44,476 --> 00:06:18,436 Speaker 1: Lost Hills, Episode two, the Pink Bubble. In the weeks 74 00:06:18,476 --> 00:06:21,756 Speaker 1: after Boudette was killed, all through that summer of twenty eighteen, 75 00:06:22,276 --> 00:06:25,796 Speaker 1: I kept hearing that everyone in Malibu was panicking. The 76 00:06:25,876 --> 00:06:29,876 Speaker 1: situation seemed out of control. There was a murderer at large, 77 00:06:29,996 --> 00:06:33,196 Speaker 1: and residents kept calling nine one one reporting the sounds 78 00:06:33,196 --> 00:06:38,116 Speaker 1: of gunfire in the night. Tristan Boudette was dead? Who 79 00:06:38,156 --> 00:06:41,636 Speaker 1: would be next? And no One? What's your emergency? How? Yes? 80 00:06:41,756 --> 00:06:45,356 Speaker 1: I could folk up to a gun shot outside? Are 81 00:06:45,396 --> 00:06:49,956 Speaker 1: you served one gun shot? No? Four? Or five? I 82 00:06:50,036 --> 00:06:52,036 Speaker 1: just heard another one while you put me on hold. Okay, 83 00:06:52,116 --> 00:06:55,076 Speaker 1: I'm going to be back on hold on't hang up. Yeah, 84 00:06:55,116 --> 00:07:02,436 Speaker 1: there was a third one breath. Neighbors didn't think the 85 00:07:02,436 --> 00:07:06,276 Speaker 1: authorities were taking their concerns seriously, and the victims of 86 00:07:06,316 --> 00:07:10,436 Speaker 1: the near misses were starting to speak out. C. C. 87 00:07:10,636 --> 00:07:13,996 Speaker 1: Woods is a self described Malibu bigmouth who writes an 88 00:07:14,036 --> 00:07:17,996 Speaker 1: online tabloid called The Local. She posted on Facebook that 89 00:07:18,036 --> 00:07:20,716 Speaker 1: there might be a sniper or sicko in the community. 90 00:07:21,596 --> 00:07:24,476 Speaker 1: She included a screen grab about the Tesla shooting near 91 00:07:24,516 --> 00:07:28,236 Speaker 1: miss number six, which caused another near miss victim to comment, 92 00:07:28,716 --> 00:07:31,636 Speaker 1: I am one of those shootings. It was near miss 93 00:07:31,716 --> 00:07:35,036 Speaker 1: number three. The victim had been sleeping in her car 94 00:07:35,036 --> 00:07:37,836 Speaker 1: with her boyfriend in the campground at Malibu Creek State Park. 95 00:07:38,716 --> 00:07:41,036 Speaker 1: They woke up to find a bullet lodged in the trunk. 96 00:07:42,076 --> 00:07:45,236 Speaker 1: She wrote. The shooter used a shotgun with a slug 97 00:07:45,436 --> 00:07:47,756 Speaker 1: shot through my car from a point blank range and 98 00:07:47,796 --> 00:07:50,956 Speaker 1: then took off. I came very very close to being hit, 99 00:07:51,236 --> 00:07:54,676 Speaker 1: but luckily I wasn't. When the police came, which took 100 00:07:54,716 --> 00:07:57,716 Speaker 1: over two hours to show up, they told me quote, 101 00:07:57,756 --> 00:08:00,876 Speaker 1: things like this don't happen out here. I asked what 102 00:08:00,916 --> 00:08:02,396 Speaker 1: they were going to do about it, and they told 103 00:08:02,396 --> 00:08:05,556 Speaker 1: me they couldn't do anything. I asked if I'd been dead, 104 00:08:05,556 --> 00:08:09,036 Speaker 1: if they would have shown up sooner. All the story 105 00:08:09,196 --> 00:08:12,516 Speaker 1: has had something in common the fact that the authorities 106 00:08:12,556 --> 00:08:15,876 Speaker 1: didn't seem to care. The driver of the Porsche hit 107 00:08:15,916 --> 00:08:19,596 Speaker 1: on the Canyon Road near Miss number four later reported 108 00:08:19,596 --> 00:08:21,996 Speaker 1: that after calling nine to one one, he waited thirty 109 00:08:21,996 --> 00:08:24,716 Speaker 1: minutes for a patrol car to come. When one did, 110 00:08:25,076 --> 00:08:30,036 Speaker 1: it passed him by without stopping. He finally drove himself 111 00:08:30,116 --> 00:08:32,876 Speaker 1: to Lost Hill station and demanded deputies take a report. 112 00:08:33,596 --> 00:08:35,556 Speaker 1: One of them dug metal pellets out of his car 113 00:08:35,596 --> 00:08:39,636 Speaker 1: with a knife, but didn't book them into evidence. Did 114 00:08:39,676 --> 00:08:44,476 Speaker 1: anyone even want to solve these crimes? Residents wanted answers, 115 00:08:44,756 --> 00:08:47,636 Speaker 1: but the Sheriff's department kept putting out press releases saying 116 00:08:47,676 --> 00:08:51,956 Speaker 1: things like, quote, homicide detectives are advising At this time, 117 00:08:51,956 --> 00:08:54,516 Speaker 1: there is no evidence to suggest the past shootings are 118 00:08:54,556 --> 00:09:00,596 Speaker 1: related to the June twenty second, twenty eighteen homicide. Finally, 119 00:09:00,796 --> 00:09:04,676 Speaker 1: in August, State Senator Henry Stern called a public safety meeting, 120 00:09:05,036 --> 00:09:10,476 Speaker 1: the first since all this started. We're here today because 121 00:09:11,436 --> 00:09:16,196 Speaker 1: many of you, including myself, have serious concerns that Senator Stern, 122 00:09:16,716 --> 00:09:19,676 Speaker 1: we need to take our land back and we can't 123 00:09:19,756 --> 00:09:23,276 Speaker 1: see these mountains to any kind of violence or fear. 124 00:09:24,196 --> 00:09:26,756 Speaker 1: We don't want to be known in this region for 125 00:09:26,916 --> 00:09:29,596 Speaker 1: these kinds of incidents. We don't want to be defined 126 00:09:29,596 --> 00:09:32,316 Speaker 1: by this, and we certainly don't want to live in fear. 127 00:09:33,116 --> 00:09:37,156 Speaker 1: He asks a detective named Lieutenant James Royal to speak 128 00:09:37,196 --> 00:09:40,236 Speaker 1: on behalf of Lost Hill Station. Good afternoon, can you 129 00:09:40,276 --> 00:09:44,276 Speaker 1: hear me? Okay? He's been the community liaison to Malibu 130 00:09:44,316 --> 00:09:49,516 Speaker 1: for years. People trust him. Our primary objective today is 131 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:52,716 Speaker 1: to share with you as much information as possible without 132 00:09:52,756 --> 00:09:56,636 Speaker 1: jeopardizing our case. What I'd like to do first is 133 00:09:56,676 --> 00:10:02,236 Speaker 1: discuss the exact dates of the actual shooting events. Confirmed 134 00:10:02,236 --> 00:10:05,756 Speaker 1: shooting events that we've been dealing with since November third, 135 00:10:05,956 --> 00:10:10,516 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and culminating on June twenty of twenty eighteen, 136 00:10:10,716 --> 00:10:14,236 Speaker 1: with the tragic death of mister Bodatt. He states the 137 00:10:14,276 --> 00:10:19,196 Speaker 1: department's official position detectives haven't established a connection between any 138 00:10:19,196 --> 00:10:21,716 Speaker 1: of the near misses and the murder, and the newly 139 00:10:21,716 --> 00:10:23,956 Speaker 1: reported shots may or may not be related to the 140 00:10:23,996 --> 00:10:27,636 Speaker 1: near misses, the murder, or to each other. I really 141 00:10:27,676 --> 00:10:31,956 Speaker 1: want to reassure you that this investigation did not start 142 00:10:32,356 --> 00:10:37,796 Speaker 1: on June twenty second. However, we still cannot confirm that 143 00:10:37,836 --> 00:10:45,356 Speaker 1: the series of events are related forensically. It just seems crazy. 144 00:10:46,356 --> 00:10:48,676 Speaker 1: A specific area of the park and the Canyon Road 145 00:10:48,676 --> 00:10:53,876 Speaker 1: are being targeted repeatedly. People keep hearing shots. What law 146 00:10:53,996 --> 00:10:59,316 Speaker 1: enforcements saying isn't calming anybody down. It doesn't even seem true. 147 00:11:00,556 --> 00:11:03,356 Speaker 1: And I just want to think everyone who came out 148 00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:06,076 Speaker 1: from the community, especially to take time out of your 149 00:11:06,156 --> 00:11:22,076 Speaker 1: day so hopefully get some answers and some clarity. A 150 00:11:22,116 --> 00:11:24,996 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, in September of twenty eighteen, I 151 00:11:25,036 --> 00:11:28,436 Speaker 1: meet up with Cecy Woods of the local. When we 152 00:11:28,476 --> 00:11:32,756 Speaker 1: get together, there's still no suspecting custody and Ceci is outraged. 153 00:11:34,076 --> 00:11:36,996 Speaker 1: She thinks law enforcement is engaged in a big cover up. 154 00:11:37,756 --> 00:11:40,036 Speaker 1: We arranged to meet at a shopping mall on Pacific 155 00:11:40,036 --> 00:11:44,476 Speaker 1: Coast Highway, and I spot her right away, Cecie. You 156 00:11:44,516 --> 00:11:47,796 Speaker 1: can't miss her, bright blonde hair, low cut T shirt, 157 00:11:48,236 --> 00:11:52,636 Speaker 1: homemade press pass sticking out from a Louis Vuittam purse. Okay, 158 00:11:52,716 --> 00:11:57,276 Speaker 1: so what exactly are you gonna want to get? Like? Overall? 159 00:11:57,716 --> 00:12:01,196 Speaker 1: She points to her hands, which are covered in little spots. 160 00:12:01,196 --> 00:12:03,076 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't have chicken box, so I 161 00:12:03,116 --> 00:12:08,316 Speaker 1: just got laser. That's cc. CC is new to reporting 162 00:12:08,516 --> 00:12:12,436 Speaker 1: and she's definitely unconventional. Some of her best tips come 163 00:12:12,476 --> 00:12:16,716 Speaker 1: from a tea leafreeder in Burbank named Monica Source. Source, 164 00:12:16,796 --> 00:12:19,236 Speaker 1: she says, has given her a lot of information about 165 00:12:19,276 --> 00:12:22,396 Speaker 1: the case. The killer was a hiker or he was hiking, 166 00:12:22,676 --> 00:12:26,196 Speaker 1: who was wearing a mask, all alone, camping out crazy. 167 00:12:26,676 --> 00:12:30,876 Speaker 1: His name started with the letter R. Wait until I 168 00:12:30,916 --> 00:12:34,076 Speaker 1: tell you about that one, because that I did. You 169 00:12:34,076 --> 00:12:37,596 Speaker 1: see my rant on Facebook. With little official information and 170 00:12:37,676 --> 00:12:41,556 Speaker 1: no one in custody yet, Cecie's filling a vacuum. She's 171 00:12:41,556 --> 00:12:44,796 Speaker 1: got sources in the community. They're telling her what's happening. 172 00:12:45,236 --> 00:12:48,276 Speaker 1: Even if law enforcement won't problem missus. There's a lot 173 00:12:48,316 --> 00:12:51,316 Speaker 1: of people who are out there already delivering information to 174 00:12:51,436 --> 00:12:53,916 Speaker 1: me because they want to make sure somebody that they 175 00:12:53,956 --> 00:12:56,836 Speaker 1: can trust, and you know it. Who knows. If these 176 00:12:57,196 --> 00:13:00,396 Speaker 1: criminals out there know that this stuff is being blasted 177 00:13:00,476 --> 00:13:03,276 Speaker 1: and they're more likely to get caught, maybe they'll maybe 178 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:06,996 Speaker 1: they'll slow it down a little. Just then, she spots 179 00:13:06,996 --> 00:13:10,076 Speaker 1: a tall man coming out of a Starbucks carrying Ventti coffee. 180 00:13:10,396 --> 00:13:13,836 Speaker 1: He's wearing a fireman's uniform. Mister Mullen, this is our mayor, 181 00:13:14,596 --> 00:13:17,716 Speaker 1: the mayor of Malibu. Believe it or not, Dana Goodyear, 182 00:13:18,036 --> 00:13:22,076 Speaker 1: It's Rick Mullen. He's the mayor of Malibu. He's also 183 00:13:22,116 --> 00:13:25,476 Speaker 1: a fire captain and according to a big La Times expose, 184 00:13:25,996 --> 00:13:28,676 Speaker 1: he made more than four hundred thousand dollars in pay 185 00:13:28,676 --> 00:13:33,836 Speaker 1: and overtime in twenty seventeen. Running into the mayor coming 186 00:13:33,836 --> 00:13:38,676 Speaker 1: out of Starbucks, that makes Malibu feel perfectly quaint, Like 187 00:13:38,956 --> 00:13:45,596 Speaker 1: mister Rogers neighborhood with laser surgery. The Mayor, I sec warily. 188 00:13:46,316 --> 00:13:48,556 Speaker 1: They clearly know each other. This could be a new 189 00:13:48,596 --> 00:13:53,276 Speaker 1: Kumbayan moment. I'm trying here, I'm trying. Really, she's now 190 00:13:53,956 --> 00:13:56,036 Speaker 1: a resident of the city of Malibu. I live in 191 00:13:56,076 --> 00:13:59,076 Speaker 1: Point Doum right now. I do I live on Point Doum. 192 00:13:59,076 --> 00:14:01,876 Speaker 1: I live in it. Yes, we're a resident, unincorporated. Lot 193 00:14:01,876 --> 00:14:04,756 Speaker 1: of science of this account. That's a good story. I 194 00:14:04,876 --> 00:14:06,956 Speaker 1: tell him that I'm looking into the cluster of shooting 195 00:14:06,996 --> 00:14:11,476 Speaker 1: crimes in Malibu. Those are very new, dual events, kind 196 00:14:11,516 --> 00:14:16,596 Speaker 1: of sleepy but sophisticated beach town in southern California, and 197 00:14:16,876 --> 00:14:18,916 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's this other facet of it 198 00:14:19,036 --> 00:14:21,756 Speaker 1: that's being revealed or has emerged. Well, you're from a 199 00:14:21,796 --> 00:14:24,716 Speaker 1: New Yorker, so I'll leave the sophistication judgments up to you. Guys. 200 00:14:24,796 --> 00:14:30,116 Speaker 1: So it is a quiet, small coastal town that isn't 201 00:14:30,756 --> 00:14:34,356 Speaker 1: known for dramatic things like that. As she can tell you, 202 00:14:34,956 --> 00:14:37,516 Speaker 1: it's difficult to figure out what's going on. Are they 203 00:14:37,596 --> 00:14:42,916 Speaker 1: all independent things, not related to each other, or is 204 00:14:42,996 --> 00:14:46,996 Speaker 1: it kind of odd that there's so many things that 205 00:14:47,196 --> 00:14:52,916 Speaker 1: are shooting related in a fairly close proximity to each 206 00:14:52,916 --> 00:14:55,676 Speaker 1: other relatively. We just want to make sure that people 207 00:14:55,756 --> 00:14:59,036 Speaker 1: are locking their doors, are careful when they're on trails, 208 00:14:59,396 --> 00:15:03,196 Speaker 1: are not caught by surprise, and are informed like this 209 00:15:03,476 --> 00:15:07,476 Speaker 1: guy who went camping Tristan Boudet had state parks just 210 00:15:07,676 --> 00:15:09,596 Speaker 1: put up a flyer and said, listen, we've had these 211 00:15:09,636 --> 00:15:14,516 Speaker 1: incidents here. Let people make their own informed decisions. This 212 00:15:14,676 --> 00:15:19,036 Speaker 1: guy had no warning and his girls were laying right 213 00:15:19,116 --> 00:15:24,516 Speaker 1: next to him, and that to me, the way he died, 214 00:15:24,756 --> 00:15:26,956 Speaker 1: and the fact that this guy didn't spray all the 215 00:15:27,036 --> 00:15:30,196 Speaker 1: other tents around him, I mean, was it a lucky shot? 216 00:15:30,316 --> 00:15:33,156 Speaker 1: Was it not a lucky shot? You know it? It 217 00:15:33,836 --> 00:15:35,356 Speaker 1: could be a target. I don't know. I don't know. 218 00:15:35,436 --> 00:15:37,316 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know. I don't know if any 219 00:15:37,356 --> 00:15:39,276 Speaker 1: of these other shootings are even the same guy. It 220 00:15:39,316 --> 00:15:42,676 Speaker 1: could be other people. Who knows. But the fact of 221 00:15:42,716 --> 00:15:44,876 Speaker 1: the matter is people need to be careful. And that's 222 00:15:44,916 --> 00:15:46,996 Speaker 1: all I care about is I'm being careful. I don't 223 00:15:47,036 --> 00:15:48,636 Speaker 1: want them to live in fear, which is why I'm 224 00:15:48,636 --> 00:15:51,956 Speaker 1: trying to inform them and keep them safe, Okay, And 225 00:15:52,036 --> 00:15:55,196 Speaker 1: I expect my city to do the same. I expect 226 00:15:55,356 --> 00:15:58,116 Speaker 1: law enforcement to do the same. I expect state parks 227 00:15:58,196 --> 00:16:00,476 Speaker 1: to do the same. I shouldn't be the one doing it, 228 00:16:00,916 --> 00:16:03,876 Speaker 1: and I have been, unfortunately. So let me address what 229 00:16:03,956 --> 00:16:07,516 Speaker 1: she just said. And by the way, I was the 230 00:16:07,556 --> 00:16:11,396 Speaker 1: first fire department person to respond to Tristan Boudet's murder 231 00:16:11,516 --> 00:16:15,676 Speaker 1: work and when a tragedy like that happens, everybody wants 232 00:16:15,716 --> 00:16:18,356 Speaker 1: to know. How come I didn't know about that. I 233 00:16:18,396 --> 00:16:21,076 Speaker 1: didn't want to be like the mayor from Jaws saying, hey, 234 00:16:21,316 --> 00:16:24,516 Speaker 1: you know, you yell shark and we got a problem 235 00:16:24,556 --> 00:16:26,996 Speaker 1: on our hands. It's not the city of Melibou where 236 00:16:26,996 --> 00:16:29,796 Speaker 1: all these things happen, but nevertheless, it affects a lot 237 00:16:29,836 --> 00:16:31,676 Speaker 1: of people who live in Malibou, and they should know 238 00:16:31,716 --> 00:16:34,996 Speaker 1: about this policy Number thirty eight. Can we talk about 239 00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:38,476 Speaker 1: Jaws for a second. Jaws takes place in high summer 240 00:16:38,676 --> 00:16:41,196 Speaker 1: in a fictional beach town that's being terrorized by a 241 00:16:41,236 --> 00:16:45,116 Speaker 1: great white shark. After a young tourist is killed, the 242 00:16:45,236 --> 00:16:48,676 Speaker 1: mayor refuses to warn the public. He's worried about the 243 00:16:48,756 --> 00:16:52,996 Speaker 1: town's reputation. The famous line Mayor Mullins referring to is 244 00:16:53,636 --> 00:16:55,676 Speaker 1: you yell shark, and we've got a panic on our 245 00:16:55,716 --> 00:16:58,876 Speaker 1: hands on the fourth of July. Maybe may Or Mullin 246 00:16:58,956 --> 00:17:01,436 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be the mayor from Jaws, but he 247 00:17:01,516 --> 00:17:04,516 Speaker 1: also doesn't seem particularly eager to get to the bottom 248 00:17:04,556 --> 00:17:10,116 Speaker 1: of anything. I would defer the questions to the people 249 00:17:10,156 --> 00:17:13,396 Speaker 1: actually doing the investigation. It's a big mystery it's a 250 00:17:13,476 --> 00:17:15,596 Speaker 1: big mystery, and everybody wants to know the answers, and 251 00:17:15,756 --> 00:17:44,396 Speaker 1: maybe there aren't answers. After saying goodbye to the Mayor, 252 00:17:44,796 --> 00:17:48,316 Speaker 1: Cecie and I jump into her black Porsche Suv. I 253 00:17:48,396 --> 00:17:49,836 Speaker 1: thought we were going for a tour of where the 254 00:17:49,876 --> 00:17:52,716 Speaker 1: shooting has happened. But there's someone she wants me to meet, 255 00:17:53,436 --> 00:17:55,836 Speaker 1: someone who was shot at a few days ago. So 256 00:17:56,036 --> 00:17:59,716 Speaker 1: we're going up Malibu Canyon, which is also known as 257 00:17:59,796 --> 00:18:04,276 Speaker 1: Las Virginus, which is where all these shootings are taking place. 258 00:18:04,796 --> 00:18:08,556 Speaker 1: Malibu Canyon Road is treacherous, looming cliffs on one side, 259 00:18:09,156 --> 00:18:12,516 Speaker 1: deep drop off on the other in every direction, acres 260 00:18:12,516 --> 00:18:15,356 Speaker 1: of wilderness. It gives you a sense of what all 261 00:18:15,476 --> 00:18:19,036 Speaker 1: of southern California must have looked like before Paradise got paved. 262 00:18:20,396 --> 00:18:23,116 Speaker 1: Cars often go off the side into the ravine below, 263 00:18:24,276 --> 00:18:27,716 Speaker 1: a scary thought because Ceci's constantly looking at her phone 264 00:18:27,716 --> 00:18:31,436 Speaker 1: while she drives, and she never stops ranting about the 265 00:18:31,556 --> 00:18:34,236 Speaker 1: lost Hills cops. See. The problem is it's been the 266 00:18:34,356 --> 00:18:38,316 Speaker 1: good old boys forever, okay, Like these guys could get 267 00:18:38,356 --> 00:18:40,996 Speaker 1: away with whatever they wanted to get away with because 268 00:18:41,116 --> 00:18:43,516 Speaker 1: nobody would challenge them. Right now, there's a lot of 269 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:47,036 Speaker 1: people talking about their own personal experiences with law enforcement here, 270 00:18:47,276 --> 00:18:52,236 Speaker 1: and you know what, it a pretty okay, it's not pretty. 271 00:18:53,116 --> 00:18:56,436 Speaker 1: Cecy says that Lost Hill Station has had serious problems 272 00:18:56,516 --> 00:18:59,956 Speaker 1: going back a decade or more. In her opinion, it 273 00:19:00,036 --> 00:19:03,516 Speaker 1: needs a lot more supervision from Sheriff's Department headquarters downtown. 274 00:19:04,396 --> 00:19:06,596 Speaker 1: We need to tear down to rebuild. Let's just put 275 00:19:06,636 --> 00:19:12,196 Speaker 1: it that way. So my big mouth is now shining 276 00:19:12,236 --> 00:19:16,556 Speaker 1: the light on what's going on here. Now, you know what, 277 00:19:16,676 --> 00:19:18,636 Speaker 1: does the city of Malibu really like the fact that 278 00:19:18,716 --> 00:19:22,596 Speaker 1: I'm shining the light on this? Nope? Oh, wait on on. 279 00:19:23,716 --> 00:19:27,636 Speaker 1: She's fixated on the upcoming election for Sheriff of La County. 280 00:19:28,196 --> 00:19:32,676 Speaker 1: A challenger, Alex Vienneueva, is running against the incumbent, Jim McDonnell. 281 00:19:33,676 --> 00:19:37,796 Speaker 1: CC Woods is all in for Vienneueva. If anyone can 282 00:19:37,836 --> 00:19:41,436 Speaker 1: get Lost Hills in line, it's him. And I pray 283 00:19:41,516 --> 00:19:47,116 Speaker 1: that Alex Villeneueva becomes the sheriff because he will clean 284 00:19:47,556 --> 00:19:51,596 Speaker 1: that department up, period and that includes Lost Hills. And 285 00:19:51,676 --> 00:19:54,596 Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that ship gets straightened up 286 00:19:54,716 --> 00:19:58,716 Speaker 1: out here. It seems like a stretch. If her candidate 287 00:19:58,836 --> 00:20:01,516 Speaker 1: does get elected, is he really going to care about 288 00:20:01,556 --> 00:20:04,476 Speaker 1: a sleepy little beach town full of tourists and celebrities, 289 00:20:05,436 --> 00:20:08,036 Speaker 1: Not to mention it's so far away from the Sheriff's 290 00:20:08,036 --> 00:20:11,396 Speaker 1: department headquarters it might take two hours to get out 291 00:20:11,436 --> 00:20:17,556 Speaker 1: here in La traffic high Hopefully we reach Malibu Creek 292 00:20:17,596 --> 00:20:20,916 Speaker 1: State Park and the road changes names to Las virginas 293 00:20:23,876 --> 00:20:26,276 Speaker 1: we turn off away from the park, heading up to 294 00:20:26,316 --> 00:20:29,556 Speaker 1: a scenic overlook on the opposite ridge. That's where we're 295 00:20:29,556 --> 00:20:32,196 Speaker 1: going to meet this guy who says someone shot at him. 296 00:20:33,036 --> 00:20:35,076 Speaker 1: She hasn't met him in person yet, but a couple 297 00:20:35,196 --> 00:20:38,676 Speaker 1: days earlier, he sent an email to the local hi Cecy. 298 00:20:38,956 --> 00:20:41,356 Speaker 1: He wrote, I hike daily way in the back of 299 00:20:41,436 --> 00:20:45,116 Speaker 1: Carbon Canyon, and yesterday someone fired a single shot at me. 300 00:20:45,796 --> 00:20:48,356 Speaker 1: With the other things I know, I'm betting it's the killer. 301 00:20:49,316 --> 00:20:52,036 Speaker 1: Who's the right cop to talk to if they give 302 00:20:52,076 --> 00:20:58,316 Speaker 1: a shit? I called nine one one Nada. We get 303 00:20:58,396 --> 00:21:02,156 Speaker 1: up to the overlook and it's really spectacular. The Pacific 304 00:21:02,276 --> 00:21:04,956 Speaker 1: spreads out like a blanket on one side, and miles 305 00:21:04,996 --> 00:21:07,876 Speaker 1: of mountainous wilderness and the entire San Fernando Valley are 306 00:21:07,956 --> 00:21:11,596 Speaker 1: on the other. There's a middle aged man waiting beside 307 00:21:11,596 --> 00:21:14,676 Speaker 1: a tricked out jeep with four labradors sticking their heads 308 00:21:14,676 --> 00:21:20,836 Speaker 1: out the windows. Well, he doesn't his name. He's a local, 309 00:21:21,116 --> 00:21:22,796 Speaker 1: let's just put it that way. Yeah, I live down 310 00:21:22,876 --> 00:21:27,836 Speaker 1: on Ramdlet. He's a retired exploration geologist who helped mining 311 00:21:27,876 --> 00:21:32,996 Speaker 1: companies find gold. Somebody shot at me, not to hit me, 312 00:21:33,156 --> 00:21:36,396 Speaker 1: but to tell me to you know, fuck off. But 313 00:21:36,876 --> 00:21:39,036 Speaker 1: you have to understand it's hard to describe without you 314 00:21:39,156 --> 00:21:43,276 Speaker 1: seeing the geometry. How did that person get there? There's 315 00:21:43,316 --> 00:21:46,116 Speaker 1: no tracks on the road I was walking on. It's 316 00:21:46,156 --> 00:21:52,236 Speaker 1: almost inaccessible unless you're like a mountain guy. So who 317 00:21:52,476 --> 00:21:55,516 Speaker 1: would be shooting at somebody literally in the middle of 318 00:21:55,676 --> 00:21:59,436 Speaker 1: nowhere unless it's somehow related to all this other stuff 319 00:21:59,476 --> 00:22:02,436 Speaker 1: that's going on? Bad daylight forty four in the morning. 320 00:22:02,796 --> 00:22:06,196 Speaker 1: One shot was one shot, clearly, if you know, if 321 00:22:06,196 --> 00:22:07,716 Speaker 1: it had been aimed at me, I would have been hit, 322 00:22:08,276 --> 00:22:10,396 Speaker 1: or if it was me and I wasn't hit, there 323 00:22:10,436 --> 00:22:13,196 Speaker 1: would have been follow up, which there was not. But 324 00:22:13,476 --> 00:22:16,676 Speaker 1: one shot, just like so many of the other shootings. 325 00:22:17,596 --> 00:22:22,436 Speaker 1: With everything else that's going on, it's definitely alarming to me. 326 00:22:22,556 --> 00:22:27,436 Speaker 1: It was probably it's a small caliber rifle you can 327 00:22:27,516 --> 00:22:31,516 Speaker 1: kill humans with him like that, but louder, of course, 328 00:22:32,236 --> 00:22:34,156 Speaker 1: and it has a certain amount of base to it 329 00:22:34,276 --> 00:22:37,316 Speaker 1: that I can't do in my hands. What would you 330 00:22:37,476 --> 00:22:41,236 Speaker 1: use a twenty two four other than target shooting? Yeah, 331 00:22:41,276 --> 00:22:43,796 Speaker 1: you shoot a cans. In the old days, we called 332 00:22:43,836 --> 00:22:46,556 Speaker 1: it happy gunfire because people just shot for the hell 333 00:22:46,596 --> 00:22:49,036 Speaker 1: of it. Sean Penn was very frequent. What do you mean. 334 00:22:49,356 --> 00:22:52,076 Speaker 1: I used to hear automatic gunfire from across the canyon. 335 00:22:52,116 --> 00:22:59,676 Speaker 1: You hear Sean Penn's house. It's a fact. But he's 336 00:22:59,716 --> 00:23:03,316 Speaker 1: not harming anyone. He's just shooting. And that's plinking only 337 00:23:03,356 --> 00:23:06,636 Speaker 1: in a sort of a grandiose way celebrity. If one 338 00:23:06,676 --> 00:23:08,156 Speaker 1: of his neighbors called him an, he would have been 339 00:23:08,196 --> 00:23:11,116 Speaker 1: in the poop poop. It's being who he is reporting 340 00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:13,996 Speaker 1: in Malibu. Every story can lead you down a celebrity 341 00:23:14,036 --> 00:23:17,596 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. For the record, although Sean Penn at one 342 00:23:17,676 --> 00:23:20,676 Speaker 1: point had a large and well publicized gun collection, I 343 00:23:20,836 --> 00:23:24,116 Speaker 1: haven't been able to confirm that he's engaged in celebrity plinking. 344 00:23:25,116 --> 00:23:26,516 Speaker 1: But I want to get back to the part where 345 00:23:26,556 --> 00:23:29,076 Speaker 1: the victim called nine one one, Oh. Yeah. I just 346 00:23:29,356 --> 00:23:32,196 Speaker 1: stepped around the corner where I thought I was out 347 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:37,196 Speaker 1: of sight and dialed nine one one, and shot fired 348 00:23:37,316 --> 00:23:40,716 Speaker 1: way back in the canyon. Can you guys triangulate my position, 349 00:23:41,116 --> 00:23:44,476 Speaker 1: because we can find this guy if you sound up Chopper. Literally, 350 00:23:44,516 --> 00:23:45,996 Speaker 1: the guy could have taken off and been over my 351 00:23:46,036 --> 00:23:50,076 Speaker 1: head in less than two minutes, but nobody called back. 352 00:23:50,956 --> 00:23:53,876 Speaker 1: A man had been killed. There'd been six near misses 353 00:23:54,316 --> 00:23:57,636 Speaker 1: shots in the night all summer long. A potential suspect 354 00:23:57,796 --> 00:24:00,556 Speaker 1: was pinned in the canyon, and no one came to 355 00:24:00,676 --> 00:24:03,756 Speaker 1: check it out. You clearly felt that shot was for you. 356 00:24:03,996 --> 00:24:07,276 Speaker 1: So there was one Lost Hills deputy who was interested 357 00:24:07,316 --> 00:24:11,556 Speaker 1: in a single shot fired deep the canyon. Sergeant Towey Wright, 358 00:24:11,916 --> 00:24:14,396 Speaker 1: the leader of the search and rescue team, the person 359 00:24:14,436 --> 00:24:18,196 Speaker 1: who would later help find Rauda. He called the victim back. 360 00:24:18,476 --> 00:24:21,876 Speaker 1: The sheriffs they're saying one thing, but I could tell 361 00:24:21,996 --> 00:24:25,956 Speaker 1: from his incredibly avid interest in what had happened to 362 00:24:26,076 --> 00:24:29,276 Speaker 1: me that there was something about it that he found 363 00:24:29,476 --> 00:24:34,196 Speaker 1: extremely important. But all this stuff happening, it's people are 364 00:24:34,276 --> 00:24:37,276 Speaker 1: starting to get hysterically. Is it overreacting? Well, I don't 365 00:24:37,316 --> 00:24:45,756 Speaker 1: think so, not. Given a set of events. Two weeks 366 00:24:45,796 --> 00:24:48,436 Speaker 1: after the meeting with CC's source, there are a couple 367 00:24:48,516 --> 00:24:52,956 Speaker 1: of man hunts in Malibu Creek State Park bloodhounds helicopters 368 00:24:53,316 --> 00:24:57,756 Speaker 1: the works. CC's cynical about the display. She thinks it's 369 00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:01,556 Speaker 1: all a big dog and pony show. But then, after 370 00:25:01,636 --> 00:25:04,436 Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright follows a trail of bootprints from a burglary 371 00:25:04,476 --> 00:25:08,836 Speaker 1: behind the Sheriff's station, Anthony Rowda is captured, and somehow 372 00:25:09,516 --> 00:25:13,036 Speaker 1: it doesn't settle anything. Seems like no one in Malibu 373 00:25:13,116 --> 00:25:18,436 Speaker 1: believes the copse. They think it's a setup. That Route 374 00:25:18,556 --> 00:25:22,636 Speaker 1: is taking the fall. The fever gripping Malibu doesn't break, 375 00:25:23,636 --> 00:25:29,516 Speaker 1: it intensifies, and suddenly everyone in Malibu is running for 376 00:25:29,636 --> 00:25:40,396 Speaker 1: their lives. Less than a month after Rout's arrest, the 377 00:25:40,516 --> 00:25:46,276 Speaker 1: Woolsey Fire ravages Malibu. Ninety seven thousand acres burn. It's 378 00:25:46,316 --> 00:25:51,276 Speaker 1: one of the most destructive fires in California history. Seventy 379 00:25:51,316 --> 00:25:54,716 Speaker 1: mile an hour gusts. The devil winds propel the fire 380 00:25:54,836 --> 00:25:57,996 Speaker 1: through the canyons, scorching the wilderness. In and around the 381 00:25:58,076 --> 00:26:01,716 Speaker 1: park route is Camp, the area where the shooter lay 382 00:26:01,716 --> 00:26:04,636 Speaker 1: in wait, shooting at cars, the Camp round where Tristan 383 00:26:04,676 --> 00:26:09,036 Speaker 1: Bodett was killed, the entire killing zone up in smoke. 384 00:26:09,316 --> 00:26:11,676 Speaker 1: We've got our press passes, so we're coming back in 385 00:26:12,436 --> 00:26:15,236 Speaker 1: during the fire. I link up with Cecy Woods, who's 386 00:26:15,276 --> 00:26:19,956 Speaker 1: out reporting for the local. We're press. We have her angle. 387 00:26:20,236 --> 00:26:24,156 Speaker 1: The authorities have abandoned Malibu, left the residence to fend 388 00:26:24,196 --> 00:26:30,196 Speaker 1: for themselves. Park you can't go that, We're press. Ceci 389 00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:33,516 Speaker 1: is driving past burning palm trees and melted telephone poles. 390 00:26:34,116 --> 00:26:37,556 Speaker 1: Her friend ride shotgun. I'm in the back backseat driving. 391 00:26:38,196 --> 00:26:42,916 Speaker 1: I tell her to put on her brides telephone. We 392 00:26:43,116 --> 00:26:46,996 Speaker 1: drive into Point Doom, one of Malibu's most exclusive neighborhoods. 393 00:26:47,716 --> 00:26:50,636 Speaker 1: Point Doom sees some of the most intense destruction. Julia 394 00:26:50,716 --> 00:26:55,356 Speaker 1: Roberts slips here, Geeze Crawford. The sky is filled with 395 00:26:55,516 --> 00:26:58,596 Speaker 1: plumes of gray smoke, and the only other cars out 396 00:26:58,596 --> 00:27:03,316 Speaker 1: on the roads are emergency vehicles going full tilt, sirens blaring, 397 00:27:03,876 --> 00:27:12,716 Speaker 1: coming at us through a fog. I don't know how 398 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:22,156 Speaker 1: to do that. Jesus Christ. Trying to get out of here. Yeah, powerline, 399 00:27:22,396 --> 00:27:24,596 Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa, whoa wa Okay, let's get out of here. 400 00:27:24,916 --> 00:27:33,196 Speaker 1: Try to get out of here. The fire is terrifyingly random. 401 00:27:33,876 --> 00:27:38,316 Speaker 1: A shift of the wind, the difference between existing and not. 402 00:27:45,676 --> 00:27:49,116 Speaker 1: Mayor Mullen, the mayor who's also a fire captain, fights 403 00:27:49,156 --> 00:27:54,356 Speaker 1: the fire NonStop for days. It's harder to begrudge him 404 00:27:54,396 --> 00:27:58,796 Speaker 1: his four hundred thousand. Now, after the apocalypse, when the 405 00:27:58,836 --> 00:28:02,836 Speaker 1: flames are extinguished, I go to see him. From the 406 00:28:02,916 --> 00:28:04,956 Speaker 1: top of the canyon where he'd been on twenty four 407 00:28:05,036 --> 00:28:09,996 Speaker 1: seven duty, I look out over a moonscape. The world 408 00:28:10,116 --> 00:28:14,236 Speaker 1: is a charcoal drawing in the ocean below. A plume 409 00:28:14,316 --> 00:28:18,956 Speaker 1: of ash stains the water. Mullin describes the fire as 410 00:28:19,516 --> 00:28:27,556 Speaker 1: nuclear in scale. Everything vaporized, he says. On my way home, 411 00:28:27,796 --> 00:28:31,636 Speaker 1: I drive past the charred remains of a ranch, identifiable 412 00:28:31,716 --> 00:28:34,076 Speaker 1: by a bunch of rusted horseshoes and an old windmill. 413 00:28:35,356 --> 00:28:39,236 Speaker 1: I recognize this place. This is the place a couple 414 00:28:39,276 --> 00:28:41,796 Speaker 1: of years ago I listened to the owner call for 415 00:28:41,996 --> 00:28:45,436 Speaker 1: vigilante justice against a murderous mountain lion known as P 416 00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:51,596 Speaker 1: forty five. The old ranch is burned to the studs 417 00:29:14,076 --> 00:29:21,556 Speaker 1: as land is your a Sland is my Oswald Rowda 418 00:29:21,876 --> 00:29:25,436 Speaker 1: goes by Ozzie. He's the father of Anthony Rowda, the 419 00:29:25,556 --> 00:29:32,996 Speaker 1: man arrested behind Lost Hill Station, califn New YORKA. He 420 00:29:33,116 --> 00:29:34,916 Speaker 1: sings me a little bit of that song while we're 421 00:29:34,916 --> 00:29:38,036 Speaker 1: sitting on benches outside the courtroom waiting for Anthony to 422 00:29:38,036 --> 00:29:45,756 Speaker 1: show up for his hearing. Fool to go shame, But 423 00:29:45,876 --> 00:29:49,516 Speaker 1: that's not Ozzie singing. Ozzie gets uncomfortable whenever I ask 424 00:29:49,556 --> 00:29:54,876 Speaker 1: about recording him. It's now a week after the Wolsey 425 00:29:54,916 --> 00:30:00,076 Speaker 1: fire ignited, and Malibu is still smoldering. But the cameramen 426 00:30:00,196 --> 00:30:03,476 Speaker 1: for the local news affiliates are here at the Criminal 427 00:30:03,516 --> 00:30:07,956 Speaker 1: Courts building in downtown LA. They're always here for Anthony Rowda. 428 00:30:08,676 --> 00:30:10,836 Speaker 1: He put on a good show that first day in court. 429 00:30:11,716 --> 00:30:14,196 Speaker 1: They're hoping for an outburst to show on the six 430 00:30:14,236 --> 00:30:18,996 Speaker 1: o'clock news. Ozzie is sixty four and planning to retire soon. 431 00:30:19,796 --> 00:30:22,036 Speaker 1: He can't get in to see his son, and he 432 00:30:22,116 --> 00:30:25,756 Speaker 1: thinks the deputies who run the jails might be abusing him. 433 00:30:26,756 --> 00:30:31,596 Speaker 1: His son has never been too good with authority, he says. Still, 434 00:30:32,036 --> 00:30:37,396 Speaker 1: Ozzie is feeling relief, thanking God that Anthony wasn't out there. 435 00:30:37,956 --> 00:30:40,076 Speaker 1: His camp was right in the path of the fire. 436 00:30:41,796 --> 00:30:45,476 Speaker 1: That's not all, though, Ozzie's feeling relief because, as he 437 00:30:45,556 --> 00:30:49,876 Speaker 1: tells me, other fires I used to worry he set them. 438 00:30:51,236 --> 00:30:55,156 Speaker 1: He says that Anthony's got a history, a history of combustion, 439 00:30:55,916 --> 00:30:59,156 Speaker 1: shooting things off, setting things on fire, and he's done 440 00:30:59,196 --> 00:31:03,876 Speaker 1: stints in county jail and state prison. Eventually, Ozzie says, 441 00:31:04,076 --> 00:31:07,476 Speaker 1: Anthony went to Big five Sporting Goods and bought camping supplies. 442 00:31:08,556 --> 00:31:10,676 Speaker 1: He told as he wanted to live in the wild, 443 00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:15,356 Speaker 1: away from everyone. Sometimes Ozzie would go up to Malibu 444 00:31:15,436 --> 00:31:18,916 Speaker 1: to try to find Anthony to check on him. I 445 00:31:19,076 --> 00:31:21,436 Speaker 1: was always worried I would find him dead, he tells me. 446 00:31:22,476 --> 00:31:26,276 Speaker 1: But the camp was neat, no trash. Anthony cleared the 447 00:31:26,316 --> 00:31:30,676 Speaker 1: brush with the machete, he says. One thing Ozzie noticed 448 00:31:30,716 --> 00:31:35,436 Speaker 1: over the years in Malibu, he says, the rich people 449 00:31:35,516 --> 00:31:44,236 Speaker 1: don't lie homeless. I've been sitting there talking to Ozzie 450 00:31:44,276 --> 00:31:47,636 Speaker 1: for a while when I overhear someone talking about Anthony. 451 00:31:48,396 --> 00:31:52,436 Speaker 1: He says, right in front of Ozzie that fucker should 452 00:31:52,436 --> 00:32:00,436 Speaker 1: have burned. A few weeks later, I'm back at court. 453 00:32:00,916 --> 00:32:04,196 Speaker 1: The prosecutor is presenting evidence about the weapon and ammunition 454 00:32:04,436 --> 00:32:09,356 Speaker 1: deputies say they found when they arrested Rauda. It's the 455 00:32:09,396 --> 00:32:13,156 Speaker 1: prosecutor questioning one of the deputies who arrested Rowda. He's 456 00:32:13,156 --> 00:32:15,996 Speaker 1: showing him a photograph that is the same rifle that 457 00:32:16,076 --> 00:32:18,556 Speaker 1: came out of the back back and what kind of rifleness. 458 00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:23,156 Speaker 1: Then it's a nine millimeter carbing rifle. A car being 459 00:32:23,396 --> 00:32:27,916 Speaker 1: is a cheap, lightweight rifle. Not very common. People call 460 00:32:28,076 --> 00:32:32,476 Speaker 1: detective Mark and Donald. Understand Donald is one of the 461 00:32:32,596 --> 00:32:35,716 Speaker 1: major crimes detectives. I noticed in court a few weeks back, 462 00:32:36,436 --> 00:32:39,996 Speaker 1: directing your attention to October ten, twenty and eighteen, at 463 00:32:40,076 --> 00:32:44,116 Speaker 1: sometime around three in the afternoon. Where were you helps 464 00:32:44,156 --> 00:32:47,396 Speaker 1: that the email of the Creech State Park in kel Passes. 465 00:32:48,356 --> 00:32:51,956 Speaker 1: And do you see someone in court today that you 466 00:32:52,516 --> 00:32:57,716 Speaker 1: saw at that location? Yes, I do identify and wear 467 00:32:57,836 --> 00:33:00,756 Speaker 1: that person is seated and what he's wearing the gentleman 468 00:33:00,956 --> 00:33:04,556 Speaker 1: mow behind the glass to mine left. That would be 469 00:33:04,636 --> 00:33:07,836 Speaker 1: Anthony Rowda, who today is in a restraint chair with 470 00:33:07,956 --> 00:33:10,756 Speaker 1: his mouth covered in mass so he can't spit at anyone. 471 00:33:11,596 --> 00:33:14,316 Speaker 1: His hands are tethered, but he still managed to flip 472 00:33:14,356 --> 00:33:16,116 Speaker 1: off the news cruise with his left hand as he 473 00:33:16,196 --> 00:33:20,276 Speaker 1: was wheeled in. Now he's studying his right hand slowly 474 00:33:20,356 --> 00:33:24,236 Speaker 1: clenching it and releasing it, clenching and releasing, as if 475 00:33:24,316 --> 00:33:27,676 Speaker 1: observing a fascinating butterfly beating its wings in the sun. 476 00:33:29,036 --> 00:33:32,796 Speaker 1: The prosecutor shows Detective Donald a photograph. Was this a 477 00:33:33,836 --> 00:33:37,836 Speaker 1: backpack that you saw at that vocation and what if anything, 478 00:33:37,956 --> 00:33:42,596 Speaker 1: did you recover from that backpack? There are multiple items 479 00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:49,076 Speaker 1: and two magazines floated with nine millimeter rounds. Along the day, 480 00:33:49,916 --> 00:33:53,036 Speaker 1: plastic bag continued nine moving around call which were a 481 00:33:53,116 --> 00:33:57,556 Speaker 1: life So at the time of his arrest, Rata had 482 00:33:57,596 --> 00:34:00,836 Speaker 1: a nine millimeter carbing rifle and the ammunition to go 483 00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:05,156 Speaker 1: with it. This gets my attention. So far, there's been 484 00:34:05,236 --> 00:34:08,916 Speaker 1: no official information about what kind of ammunition killed Tristan Bodett, 485 00:34:09,436 --> 00:34:12,236 Speaker 1: but the rumor going around Malibu is that it was 486 00:34:12,276 --> 00:34:16,476 Speaker 1: a nine millimeter round. Routa's public defender starts to argue 487 00:34:16,516 --> 00:34:18,876 Speaker 1: that the whole thing is a setup, a scheme by 488 00:34:18,916 --> 00:34:21,356 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department to pin the murder on a homeless guy, 489 00:34:22,076 --> 00:34:25,196 Speaker 1: blame him in order to mollify the agitated folks in Malibu. 490 00:34:25,716 --> 00:34:30,796 Speaker 1: I think mister Routa is being skapegoated for something, and 491 00:34:30,956 --> 00:34:34,236 Speaker 1: as a result of that, they've brought all of this 492 00:34:34,396 --> 00:34:37,436 Speaker 1: different evidence in to try and prove something else. The 493 00:34:37,556 --> 00:34:40,676 Speaker 1: reason I was asking, first of all, whether the gun 494 00:34:40,876 --> 00:34:45,356 Speaker 1: had been tested or anything like that, was for the 495 00:34:45,476 --> 00:34:51,836 Speaker 1: reason that I think everybody expects inappropriate. It's interesting about 496 00:34:51,876 --> 00:34:55,836 Speaker 1: that rifle. Ozzie tells me he didn't know Anthony had one. 497 00:34:56,516 --> 00:34:59,796 Speaker 1: Can't imagine how he got it. He doesn't even hunt, 498 00:34:59,916 --> 00:35:04,076 Speaker 1: as he says, he eats from the McDonald's dumpster. Today, 499 00:35:04,516 --> 00:35:06,996 Speaker 1: Anthony Route is sentenced to one hundred and eighty days 500 00:35:06,996 --> 00:35:10,116 Speaker 1: in County jail for the rifle and ammy mission. As 501 00:35:10,156 --> 00:35:12,996 Speaker 1: an ex felon, he's not supposed to have them, but 502 00:35:13,116 --> 00:35:15,396 Speaker 1: he's already been in for a while, so the clock 503 00:35:15,596 --> 00:35:19,116 Speaker 1: is ticking. The prosecutor has told me that the last 504 00:35:19,196 --> 00:35:22,116 Speaker 1: thing the major Crimes and homicide detectives want is for 505 00:35:22,276 --> 00:35:33,716 Speaker 1: Rowda to walk out of jail a freeman. I have 506 00:35:33,876 --> 00:35:37,196 Speaker 1: never been a conspiracy theorist before I started doing this 507 00:35:37,316 --> 00:35:40,396 Speaker 1: for a living, and I only started a few months ago. 508 00:35:43,956 --> 00:35:48,156 Speaker 1: Cc Woods is not feeling Anthony Routa as the cannon shooter, 509 00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:52,036 Speaker 1: the armed burglar, or the killer of Tristan Boudette. She 510 00:35:52,196 --> 00:35:54,116 Speaker 1: calls me to meet her at her home away from home, 511 00:35:54,476 --> 00:35:57,836 Speaker 1: a private club on Pacific Coast Highway. But I'm going 512 00:35:57,876 --> 00:36:01,116 Speaker 1: to tell you what, when things line up too perfectly, 513 00:36:02,436 --> 00:36:05,796 Speaker 1: you can't plan a wedding with these kind of conditions 514 00:36:05,836 --> 00:36:09,956 Speaker 1: and have it just come out flawless. For one thing, 515 00:36:10,116 --> 00:36:13,516 Speaker 1: she tells me before the arrest, the Sheriff's Department had 516 00:36:13,516 --> 00:36:16,196 Speaker 1: said they were looking for a male of slender build 517 00:36:16,356 --> 00:36:19,636 Speaker 1: in connection with the burglaries. Doesn't sound like routed to her. 518 00:36:20,076 --> 00:36:22,756 Speaker 1: Did that guy look like slender? He had a pooch 519 00:36:22,876 --> 00:36:25,716 Speaker 1: like this, he looks like he eats Mexican food with 520 00:36:25,836 --> 00:36:29,716 Speaker 1: the officers over at lapause, this guy did not fit 521 00:36:30,036 --> 00:36:32,556 Speaker 1: the description. And look at this haircut, like that's a 522 00:36:32,676 --> 00:36:37,076 Speaker 1: fashionable haircut. That is not a supercut's cut. Okay, I 523 00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:43,836 Speaker 1: hate to say this, but you know, and my intuition 524 00:36:43,956 --> 00:36:47,876 Speaker 1: is almost never wrong, but I'm gonna go out on 525 00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:50,556 Speaker 1: a limb and say, I mean, this guy looked like 526 00:36:50,636 --> 00:36:55,836 Speaker 1: a cop to me. Sorry. In her view, he's not 527 00:36:55,956 --> 00:36:59,916 Speaker 1: just the wrong guy, a fall guy. He's an undercover cop, 528 00:37:00,476 --> 00:37:03,676 Speaker 1: was suspiciously good hair. Of course they knew who he 529 00:37:03,796 --> 00:37:07,276 Speaker 1: was because he's a plant. She's calling bs on the 530 00:37:07,316 --> 00:37:10,596 Speaker 1: whole routa thing and doesn't care what the Sheriff's Department 531 00:37:10,756 --> 00:37:13,116 Speaker 1: or any of the cops at Lost Hills think. I 532 00:37:13,276 --> 00:37:17,276 Speaker 1: am not your little, quiet, little mousey girl. I'm a 533 00:37:17,476 --> 00:37:21,956 Speaker 1: big mouth, big boobed blonde and that does not work 534 00:37:22,036 --> 00:37:25,916 Speaker 1: for them. Okay, and I'm smart, which is even worse. 535 00:37:26,476 --> 00:37:32,516 Speaker 1: You know, I can't go along with Cecy's idea that 536 00:37:32,676 --> 00:37:36,716 Speaker 1: Rouda is actually an undercover cop. But there is what 537 00:37:36,876 --> 00:37:39,876 Speaker 1: seems like an actual snag in the theory that Routa 538 00:37:39,996 --> 00:37:43,756 Speaker 1: did all these crimes. Rouda was arrested with a nine 539 00:37:43,796 --> 00:37:48,676 Speaker 1: millimeter carbing rifle, but near missus one through five didn't 540 00:37:48,876 --> 00:37:54,476 Speaker 1: use nine millimeter ammunition. They all involved shotgun ammo, a 541 00:37:54,596 --> 00:37:56,756 Speaker 1: metal slug in the case of near miss number three, 542 00:37:57,156 --> 00:37:59,036 Speaker 1: and the rest, as far as I can piece together, 543 00:37:59,676 --> 00:38:03,716 Speaker 1: bird shot small metal pellets kind of like babies that 544 00:38:03,836 --> 00:38:07,276 Speaker 1: are designed to scatter. CEC posted a picture of the 545 00:38:07,316 --> 00:38:12,396 Speaker 1: white BMW near Miss Num five riddled with holes, but 546 00:38:12,556 --> 00:38:17,196 Speaker 1: there was no shotgun found at Roudah's camp, which means 547 00:38:17,356 --> 00:38:28,356 Speaker 1: there's either another weapon or another shooter. But as I 548 00:38:28,516 --> 00:38:32,596 Speaker 1: drive away from CC's club, I'm thinking about Malibu, this 549 00:38:32,836 --> 00:38:37,596 Speaker 1: private paradise that people guard so fiercely. In some ways, 550 00:38:37,676 --> 00:38:41,996 Speaker 1: the shooting's so shocking, don't feel all that out of place. 551 00:38:43,316 --> 00:38:46,836 Speaker 1: This is a place where celebrities have guns and locals 552 00:38:46,916 --> 00:38:49,916 Speaker 1: defend their turf, and the cops might drive by you 553 00:38:49,996 --> 00:38:52,916 Speaker 1: when you call nine one one, and the rangers tell 554 00:38:53,036 --> 00:38:57,076 Speaker 1: victims things like this don't happen here. In just the 555 00:38:57,196 --> 00:39:00,556 Speaker 1: first few months of my reporting, there's been a murder, 556 00:39:01,076 --> 00:39:04,476 Speaker 1: an uproar, accusations of a cover up, man hunts for 557 00:39:04,556 --> 00:39:08,876 Speaker 1: an armed burglar, a suspicious arrest, and a catastrophic fire. 558 00:39:10,476 --> 00:39:15,156 Speaker 1: Malibu doesn't look like a postcard anymore. That pretty surface 559 00:39:15,236 --> 00:39:19,316 Speaker 1: has been seared off, and there's chaos raging underneath.