1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: a and Paranormal Podcast Network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: episode of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Halls. Welcome to 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions only 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, I 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 11 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and 12 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to 13 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: my show. Remember each week this is the place you 14 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: go to when you want to hear the latest stories 15 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: when it comes to alien abductions. Boog, you been coming 16 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: at people with shadow, people, hat man, anything and everything 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. You come here, you share what 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: you're experiencing and I will address it here on this program. 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's something that you've researched, something 20 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: that you personally have come across experience. Email me go 21 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: to shadow Folks dot com or Heidi Hollis dot com 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: and tell me about it. The bigger the email, the better. 23 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you today you are in for quite 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: a treat. We have the hypno Therapist for Demilovados Alien Encounter. 25 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Laurie McDonald is going to be joining us. 26 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: You are going to be shocked at the wealth of 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: material that she has encountered over the years. It's been 28 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: so much information and today we're gonna hear a lot 29 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: about that. We are going to really dive deep and uh, 30 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: hold onto your seats because it's gonna be really good. 31 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: As usual, whenever I've had Laurie McDonald on, it has 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: always been a fascinating conversation, never ever disappoints. So um. 33 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: But I also I wanted to address something today because 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: one of the topics that Lorie covers are people who 35 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: are considered gifted, right, and uh, for those people who 36 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: consider themselves to be psychic. I think you're going to 37 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: appreciate this conversation I'm going to approach right now. But 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: first remember go to my website and tell me about 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: what it is that you're experiencing out of the ordinary 40 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: from shadow people to hat man aliens to angel encounters. 41 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: I want to hear about it because this is the 42 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: place where people can keep in touch and know what's 43 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: going on out there in the world. All right, let 44 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: me dive on into this conversation I want to bring up. 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: So imagine you're psychic or a medium or gifted, have 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: special insight or an EmPATH and h you know, imagine 47 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: say somebody that's a truck driver, okay, and somebody buys 48 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: a toy truck with remote control. And you know, when 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: you're a truck driver, you have to get trained. I mean, 50 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: you have to go to school, you have to pass 51 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: a test, and it's a specialty. I mean, it's a profession. 52 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: But that person that has this remote toy truck says, well, hey, 53 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: I do the same thing. Yeah, I'm a I'm a 54 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: truck driver as well, you know, but they're not. They're 55 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: they've got a toy truck. I know, people who are 56 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: truly gifted in the arena of being a psychic or 57 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a medium, and it can be offensive to them in 58 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: their profession when somebody else pops up saying, oh, yeah 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: I do the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I 60 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: totally can do readings just as good as anybody you know, 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Like this is me now, I'm all about the human potential, 62 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: and I think we all have instances and moments of 63 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: psychic abilities. Honestly. I mean, have you ever had a 64 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: dream that came true or a deja vu where things 65 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: feel really real? I think it's just part of who 66 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: we are as human beings, and I think that a 67 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: lot has been hidden from us on our knowledge. I 68 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: think that uh, you know, if we got the right 69 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: um acknowledgement, even when we as children come forward and say, hey, 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: I experienced something, instead of being told go back to sleep. 71 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about, you know, don't 72 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: tell anybody that and don't explore it. If we were 73 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: taught otherwise, if we were allowed to explore that and 74 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: had knowledge of the ancients to say this is how 75 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: you tap better into that, um, I think that we'd 76 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: be living in a whole other world. But there are 77 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: those people, and I've met many over the years who 78 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: have these really clear and concise abilities. And I don't 79 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: think anybody's a hundred percent, just like I don't think 80 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: there's anybody that has a perfect uh driving record, uh, 81 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: whether they're caught or not. But everybody kind of drifts 82 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: over the line sometimes or is distracted at some point. 83 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: So you know, nobody's perfect there anything that they do. 84 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: But I've met some that are like, you know, I'm 85 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: trying to let the world know that these abilities exist, 86 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and some of us are really really clear about it. 87 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: And now, is that person a fluke to be so clear? 88 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Again, I think it's untapped abilities 89 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: that we have. You know, whether a person got hit 90 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: on the head um or they got ill or near 91 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: deathics experience it seems to trigger these abilities even more so. 92 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: It's like a crossing over to the other side, wakes up, 93 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: energizes a certain part of their brain and whoop. You know, 94 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: they they've got these abilities more increased, right, And but 95 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the whole profession gets muddied when you have somebody who 96 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: steps into the arena and says they're really good at something, 97 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: and I don't know the motivations to it. I don't 98 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: know if they want to um make a living doing this. 99 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to UM. They don't 100 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: make it feel like there's something special about them than 101 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: the next. But when they muddy the waters and they 102 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: are proposing to know something so precise because this is 103 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: you know who they are and what they do, and 104 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: they know better that they don't. It causes problems out there. 105 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. I never thought about that's 106 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: like and yeah, I have come across peoples like, oh, 107 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm psychic, let me tell you your future. You've got this, 108 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: this and that, and they're totally wrong, and I just go, 109 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah. You know, um, especially when you're in this 110 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: line of work, you get a lot of people who 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: try to tell you something about yourself and um, you know, 112 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I politely just smile and not oh really okay, but 113 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: it's I don't put a whole lot of weight into it. Um. 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I have come across some extraordinarily talented people though. UM, 115 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to say that I haven't run 116 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: into those people. But imagine the harm that could be 117 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: done out there. If you're saying, yeah, I'm really good, 118 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: pay me some money and I'm going to tell you 119 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: what your past love. One is saying, um, wow, that 120 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: causes harm. That's called a Charlottean. That's called horrible. That's trickery, 121 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: that's not cool. Um. But again, there's people like myself 122 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: I've seen ghosts. I don't try to talk to them, 123 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you know. Um. In fact, I told the ghosts, look, 124 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm not the one. I'm not gonna gonna be transmitting 125 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: any kind of information about anything that you've experienced. I 126 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: don't care why you're here, Just please go. You know, 127 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: just that type of thing. UM, just put the notion 128 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to have a conversation. Um, but you know, 129 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: I just I never thought of that. But I have 130 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: had the scenario in the situation UM a lot, because 131 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: speaking at conferences and whatnot, and uh, people say, oh, 132 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: come here, I've seen something about you. Do you would 133 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: you believe like the most sporadic moments when somebody comes 134 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: up to me saying that type of thing is when 135 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: they've been more spot on. I don't know what that is, 136 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: but that those have been like really really shocking instances 137 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: for me. Um, this is so crazy, alright, So I'm 138 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys something. This is. This is just 139 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: like wild to me because it's so happened to me. 140 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: And this is one of those sporadic situations like, um, 141 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: so this this uh, this guy came up to me, 142 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: shook my hand, he goes Hi, nice to meet you. 143 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm and then he goes and he looks down and 144 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: he just like points to a spot on my leg 145 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: and he's like, did you get the tattoo you're going 146 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: to get? I'm like what? And then soon behind him 147 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: comes my friend and I'm frozen because my friend, Hey, Heidi, 148 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: Oh this is my new boyfriend. I didn't get to 149 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: introduce you. Oh hold on, did he do something weird? 150 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, huh what He's like, he's a psychic. I'm sorry, 151 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: did he do something weird? I see the look on 152 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: your face. I'm like, yeah, Like, I was totally thinking 153 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: about getting a tattoo of a cross on my leg, 154 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: exactly in the spot that this guy pointing to. Now, 155 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I do not have any tattoos. I did not get it, 156 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: but that's exactly where I was thinking of putting it. 157 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: And to have somebody just spontaneously do that blew my mind. 158 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know their psychics out there. I know 159 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: there are good psychics out there, mediums, remote viewers and 160 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: all of that. Intuitives, impass um. What I'm saying is, 161 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, much like, uh, you know somebody that says 162 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: they have the talent and if somebody's coming to you, 163 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: please help, Please be true and blue to it, because 164 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: how are we going to convince others that we have 165 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: these abilities, that we have these capabilities to do things 166 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: if we have people muddying the waters out there, just 167 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: just off the seat of their pants saying, yes, I'm psychic, 168 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: come to me, pay some money. I'm gonna tell you something. 169 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: I had never thought of that, but yeah, damnage is 170 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: being done. So they cabot that. If you're one of 171 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: those folks, or if you know somebody like that who 172 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: is just you know, willy nilly out there doing that, 173 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: let's try to let's try to help ourselves in realizing 174 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: the true full human potential that we all have. And 175 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I know we have it. I know I've had those 176 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: sporadic deja vous that were totally telling that this. I've 177 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: been here before. Ah, this is familiar. I even get 178 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: like the little forward slash of the deja vu, Like 179 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: when I have one, I know what's going to happen 180 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: immediately next. It is so wild, and I like to 181 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: pause and take it all in, like, oh, this is 182 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: really kind of fabulous, you know, like what is this 183 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: thing that I'm experiencing right now it has totally happened 184 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: to me. So, um, but when I charge somebody to 185 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: say come to me, I know all deja vu on 186 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: you and til what's gonna happen in the next several seconds. No, 187 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: because that would be wrong. That would be wrong. So 188 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: let's clean it up out there. Let's tell the world 189 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: about our human potential and let's allow the ones who 190 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: really do have that ability, who could really help people heal. 191 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: It's healing to be able to talk to somebody from 192 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: the other side sometimes it's healing. And just think about 193 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the possibilities that somebody could have something like that because 194 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: they are out there and we allow them to shine 195 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and not take over their profession. I think we'll get really, 196 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: really far and letting our minds know we have this ability. 197 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: So that's my two cents worth on that. Um. So 198 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: you guys, we're gonna have a wonderful guest come up 199 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: here next. I have Laurie McDonald. You are in for 200 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: a treat and you are listening to Dark Becomes Light 201 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and 202 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. Let's stick around 203 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: well to be wrap back Hey, the Coast to Coast 204 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: channel to Coast to Coast AM dot com for more information. 205 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 206 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 207 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. Now my guest Laurie McDonald. 208 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: She is a board certified clinical hypnotherapist at True You 209 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Hypnotherapy and an extra terrestrial abduction researcher. She is one 210 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: of twenty seven regression therapists listed on the mouf On 211 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Mental Health Referral lists for abduction regression for North America. 212 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: She is the board president for OPUS Organization for Paranormal 213 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Understanding and Support and it's the founder of the Sacramento 214 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Alien Abduction and Contact the Support group when the California's 215 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: largest UFO and abduction groups. So I'd like to welcome 216 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Lorie McDonald to the show. How are you doing there, Laurie. 217 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I am doing great. It is great to have you 218 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: on this program. I've interviewed you in the past on 219 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: my other programs, and uh, first time for this one. 220 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: And wow, it's been a while, I'm I know, and 221 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I've been trying to keep up with everything that you're 222 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: up to these days, and it's a lot so but 223 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: to break it down for people to first get to 224 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: know you, UH, tell us a bit about your background 225 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: and what it is that you've been involved in. Well, 226 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm a clinical hypnotherapist here in Sacramento, and some of 227 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: the specialty work that I do is in regards to 228 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: the abduction f AMNA and the contact and how it 229 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: leads to a consciousness expansion. But my focus right now 230 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: seems to be on the spiritual awakening that many of 231 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the experiencers have and are going through. So that's been 232 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: taking up an enormous amount of time. I'm working ridiculous hours, 233 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: but all of the cases are so incredibly fascinating. Now 234 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I've been filming some documentaries. UH did a wonderful show 235 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: with a Peacock TV where I regressed Demi Levado as 236 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: she too is an experiencer and her experience also leads 237 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: to a broader awareness and it was very positive. So 238 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Demi Levado, that's that's a big deal. That's that's amazing. Yeah, 239 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: she came to a support group meeting and then I 240 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: hooked her up to an e G and we did 241 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: a regression session on camera. And she was able to 242 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: identify some of the entities that had approached her, and 243 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: she's on her own journey. In fact, I believe they 244 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: turned what was going to be one episode into a 245 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: uh four part mini series with her on the road. 246 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, so the phenomena of Awakening is definitely hand 247 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: in hand with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena or UFOs. I mean, 248 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I know that there's a distinct difference and people are 249 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: changing their verbiage. But anyway, been doing a lot of 250 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: that and really enjoy being involved in some of the documentaries. 251 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I I just did another documentary and we were on 252 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: location in San Francisco. Now upcoming event for Japanese TV. Wow, 253 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: that's amazing, But I'm I'm blown away, but I'm not 254 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: surprised because you have been doing this for quite some time, 255 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: and you know what, what actually inspired you to go 256 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: this route? You know. Interestingly, when I was in the 257 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: ninth grade, UM, I was not doing as well on 258 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the tasks as I was capable of. And I told 259 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: my science teacher, not sleeping at all, I'm fretting about 260 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: these tasks, right, And he said, well, why don't you 261 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: just put all of that and all of those thoughts 262 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: into like a brown paper bag and sit them on nightstand, 263 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: and then you can go to sleep, and if you 264 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: want to have a look at those thoughts, they'll be 265 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: there for you in the morning. And that advice stuck 266 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: with me, And of course, by that age, I was 267 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: already an experiencer and found myself going to school to 268 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: become a psychologist. But after going to see a hypnotherapist, 269 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: I realized that this, definitely, it was far far more 270 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: effective and profound in the ability that it gives a 271 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: person to program or create the neuropathway that they desire, 272 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: as opposed to their daily activities being driven by the 273 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: subconscious mind programs that they're perceiving billions of bits of 274 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: information that the mind is processing outside of their awareness. 275 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's uh, it is complicated. There's many, many, 276 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: many layers when it comes to the phenomena that looks 277 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: like it's just one thing, it's a craft and and beings, 278 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: and it's like no, it connects to the soul. It 279 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: connects to the good, the bad, the ugly, and the profound. 280 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: So how do you help somebody work through that? Well, 281 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: I think the first thing that it does is it 282 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: challenges your reality. If your reality or your consciousness had 283 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: never accepted the existence of non human entities or parallel 284 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: universes or spiritual existence or UFOs, then seeing or experiencing 285 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: something like that is really very challenging, and perhaps you 286 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: want to reject it, and perhaps you don't want to 287 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: even believe that it was real. You might want to say, no, 288 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: it was just a dream, was just a dream. And 289 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: once we can get back to whether it's real or 290 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: not real, true or faults, then we can begin to 291 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: create the consciousness space for them to process what's happened 292 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: and what that means to them, not only to them, 293 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: but their place in the world and ultimately they're place 294 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: in the universe. We are floating in space right now, 295 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: we're already part of this universe, and to expand the 296 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: mind into encompassing a much larger realm should be natural. 297 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: But we've been programmed in a way that has created 298 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: a very small, externalized reality, a reality that consists of 299 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: earning an income, making a lot of money, having a 300 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: nice hives, and and not ever really being able to 301 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: tap into that potential that we sense, not being able 302 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: to connect the mind body and take those steps towards 303 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: self mastery, beginning to understand that the soul is multidimensional 304 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: and that we are far more powerful than we ever believed. 305 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: I always say, never doubt of the human potential, because wow, 306 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: the places that we can go are mind blowing. And 307 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, I hope you don't find if if I ask, 308 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: how unearthed did Demilovado take? What it is that she revealed? 309 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking to the hypnotherapist that regressed her. 310 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: I have to ask, Laurie, so do tell? Well, Yeah, 311 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: she did really good, I mean she was Her experience 312 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: happened interestingly enough in Joshua Tree, out in the desert, 313 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: where many experiences happen and where some of the bigger 314 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: UFO conferences also happened. So they had seen a craft 315 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: I believe a blue light to begin with. And then 316 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: later as she was going to bed, there were some 317 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: non human entities in the room and they were permissive 318 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: in their languaging, requesting her basically compliance or permission, making 319 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: sure that she was okay to go, and asking did 320 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: she want to understand or see more? And she did, 321 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: and without fear, she was able to move into another 322 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: and higher space. Wonderful. What beings. Which types did she see? 323 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: She described them as being tall, thin, and it was 324 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: difficult for her to get a full physical description. Of course, 325 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: if anybody who's interested, that episode has aired in September 326 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: on Peacock and I believe peacock is a free app 327 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: and you can watch the live regression as we had 328 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: her hooked up to an e G and you can 329 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: see the brain waves as they moved down into the 330 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: subconscious and display the alpha delta and sometimes even hitting 331 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the delta brainway, the data brainway. Sorry, so very very cool. Um. 332 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: I find it very interesting and isn't it a sign 333 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: of the times when people in celebrities can come forward 334 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: and speak their truth in a place that is no 335 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: longer ridiculed. But the truth is Heidi. I think that 336 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: when the Pentagon came forward and said that, you know, 337 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: we've got these TikTok videos and our naval airplanes are 338 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: chasing what can only be UFOs, are now this unidentified 339 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: a real phenomenon. I think that that said they exist, 340 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: and by doing so, it's alleviated the burden of proof 341 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: for the experience, or they don't have to prove it 342 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: because the government already said they're there. So I think 343 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: this makes it a little easier for people to come 344 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: forward and say, yeah, well, actually this is what happened 345 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: to me, or this is what my family and I experienced. No, 346 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that, because there has been a 347 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: different wave, a different vibe and a wink like, hey, 348 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: it's all good, we can we could do this, we 349 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: could go there now. And it's like I was absolutely 350 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: applauding when somebody like Demo Demi came forward. I mean, 351 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: just wow, you know this, this is exactly where it 352 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: needs to go. We need to get uh common everyday people, 353 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: big stars at all in the mix to uh, you know, 354 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: just say hey, this is my truth, this is what's happening, 355 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and bring it to a level where we can talk 356 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: about the weather in the next sentence even you know, right, 357 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: and just you know, letting people see that some of 358 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: these experiences and really all of them, if we begin 359 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: to uh focus on really opening or resonating with a 360 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: higher consciousness, as we begin to resonate into that, than 361 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: what we attract, what we draw towards us is in 362 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: that same light. And this really lets people feel safer 363 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: and more secure. There are protocols now and deflect ding 364 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: lower energy or asked through a plane lower energy, or 365 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: even demons for extraternal races that are self serving. Oh, 366 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: we are so got to dive into that. We gotta 367 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: get to our first break here with Laurie McDonald. You guys, 368 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: you are listening too dark becomes like with me Heidi 369 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 370 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: am para normal podcast network. 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Reveal Welcome back. 403 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi 404 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 405 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I have Laurie McDonald and 406 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: we were speaking about some of these elements that I 407 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: have some It's something that I talk about often here 408 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: on the program about there being a conflict in alien contact, 409 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: that it's not always rosy, it's not always positive, and 410 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: but I find there's some people who really don't like 411 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: to go there to talk about the more negative experiences 412 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: any longer. Like that was the thing before, you know, 413 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: way back in the day, Like people were honest and forthcoming, 414 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the tone changed. And 415 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: I remember sitting in these groups and talking to these 416 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: people because I ran a group for like fifteen years, 417 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: and uh watch the conversation turned to, oh, it's not 418 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: so bad, and uh yeah they abused me, Yeah they 419 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: caused harm, but I'm special and that's why I had 420 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: to have that lesson. And I was absolutely blown away 421 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: with people who wanted to sleep with a gun under 422 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: their bed and some did to that. So how do 423 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: you explain that to people? And I love the fact 424 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: that you go there and you address this head on, 425 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: So how how do you explain some of this? Well, 426 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: first off, the abduction phenomena is changing, and part of 427 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: that is because the human is becoming more empowered word 428 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: and more capable of resonating into those higher frequencies, and 429 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: the fear level is diminishing. So earlier in the seventies, 430 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: late seventies, eighties, and into the nineties, we certainly heard 431 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot about to the grays, the hybridization program, the 432 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: harvesting of genetics, at people being shown hybrid children and 433 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: people were terrified. I've also had clients with guns in 434 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: their house and under their bed because they'd seen extraterrestrials 435 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: first seeming to peep in the window and seeing him 436 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: in the room. Then they're moved into that state of 437 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: paralysis where only the eyes are moving, but they have 438 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: conscious awareness, and they can feel themselves being lifted, floated 439 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: through what should be physical now no laws of physics supply, 440 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: and they moved through a wall or a window. You 441 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: can only imagine how frightening that is because you have 442 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: no control. Now, Is anything bad happening while they're being 443 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: taken against their will? Are they being harmed? Not necessarily, 444 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: not physically anyway. Certainly there has been an emotional scar 445 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: to left, but that entity is now um trying to 446 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: create you all use that that delta bring wave transmitter 447 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: to create a sense of compliance and diminish any fear 448 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: that a person might be having, reassuring them that everything's okay. 449 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I think we've blown the lid off. I'm so special 450 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: that that's clearly a manipulation and people were being tricked. 451 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 1: And how ridiculous to think that one person's DNA is 452 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: going to service and repair a full race of beings exactly, 453 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, come on, most of them were the short 454 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: ones are primarily AI anyway, they're mostly programmed. They can 455 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: only you know, perform certain functions. So yeah, but it's changing, 456 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: as you know. And although some people are still scared, 457 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: and I still see experiences that are um, people's grandparents, 458 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: you know, they're older now, but things have happened, and 459 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: before they leave this earth, they want to know what 460 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: they experienced to begin to settle that energy. So the 461 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: grace they're not as intimidating as they think they are. 462 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: The more we begin to master our mind and our energy, 463 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: the more we're able to shut them down. I love that. Yeah, 464 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: self empowerment and um, you know, having that thought of 465 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: no doubt that you can indeed do something about your situation. 466 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: I I really kind of group us may at other 467 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: people's disdain for the whole thing, like, well, can't do 468 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: anything about it. You know, they're just gonna keep doing 469 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: this and making me a victim. And I'm like, you know, there, 470 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: there's there's something about why they keep coming. I didn't 471 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: buy into that whole Uh, this person is special versus 472 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: the next one either, But um, it seems to help 473 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: people sleep better at night. And I wasn't one to 474 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: knock people down for that belief because I saw the trauma. 475 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I saw the the families getting broken up and the 476 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: despair of the PTSD. The yeah, there's a mechanism. Yeah. 477 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: And so now we're saying posts abduction stress disorder because 478 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: it's sort of covers a very distinct and set of 479 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: symptoms that experiencers feel. And so Rose Heartbrow, she was 480 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: a psychiatric nurse. I believe she's coined the phrase um 481 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: post abduction stress disorder, and we now we treat that 482 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: specifically for people who had suffered. So, yeah, they were 483 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: told they were special, um, and that they were going 484 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: to be able to help and that it was a 485 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: manipulation when in fact, um, I've I do believe that 486 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: they were trying to create a hybred so that they 487 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: could hijack the human soul. As grays only live to 488 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: be about nine to a vendred years until they become 489 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: AI programmed, and that's about a little bit of sentient 490 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: being left in them. But the tall grays um lived 491 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: to be nine eleven years old. But if they were 492 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: to create a hybred that a vessel that could hold 493 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: the soul, then they could hijack the ascension. Very interesting 494 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: and you spoke of that hijacking and also demonic type 495 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: of elementals out there. How do you how do you 496 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: tell the difference between what's going on, because I've heard 497 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: of some people reporting demonic entities and describing a gray 498 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: alien being. Yeah, I mean, demons have been confused with 499 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: grays for a long time and nuts because they share 500 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: something in common, which is self serving behavior. The just 501 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: differences is emotion. A demon has zero emotional control and 502 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: they're like a highly intelligent, spoiled child. They're easily provoked 503 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and they have no emotional control whatsoever, whereas an extraterrestrial 504 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: just basically has no emotions. As we're specifically talking about 505 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: the grades, so their emotion or at least some of 506 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: the emotion that a gray would display would be um. 507 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Minimal emotion would be like annoyance. But when we're not flying, 508 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: they're like the tall braids are like, oh, you know, 509 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: they have to like they had somebody had to call 510 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: in the manager, you know, And so that's about the 511 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: most emotion you're going to get out of them. But 512 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: but a demon, they always pretend. They pretend to be people, 513 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: they pretend to be little girls, they pretend to be extraterrestrials. 514 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: But when questioned with the appropriate line of questioning, they 515 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: crack and they get angry and they lose control. And 516 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: that's how you know who you're dealing with. They have 517 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: a tell huh, they have a tel, and they where 518 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: their means there, you know, and they try to provoke fear. 519 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: So the more person can practice equanimity, being calm, balanced, 520 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: well grounded, and no matter what chaos is going around, 521 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: the more you're able to maneuver through any situation. Yeah, 522 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Have you ever come across, uh, some of 523 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: these folks claiming to be quote unquote super soldiers are 524 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: part of the Secret Space Force. Yes, oh oh, hold on, now, 525 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: what was that? What was that? Lorie it was yes 526 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: I have, but I can't go into detail at this time. Um, 527 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: that's yeah, I can't at this time. One of the 528 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: reasons is uh to do with the super Soldier program 529 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: and how any human can be superhuman. So it's not 530 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: a big adjustment really, it's the women are like this. 531 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: It's hormonal. It's actually adrenaline. As we begin to focus 532 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: and balance and control our adrenaline, we can we can 533 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: exhibit two forms of super strength. One physically lifting huge 534 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: amounts of weights, jumping for our distances, running for long steeds, incredible, 535 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: just adrenaline. Farmers have done it when they've had you know, 536 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: cattle or other people trapped or hurt, and they've done 537 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: amazing things. All kinds of people have done it. It's 538 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: not news. But secondarily, when a person now is pushed 539 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: to that limit and without thought, they must react. That 540 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: super strength is not only physical, it's psychic, and we 541 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: display enormous amounts of psychism where the mind can move 542 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: things just like that. For human can strength can lift 543 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: up a car and free a trapped person. You don't 544 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: have to touch the car to lift the car and 545 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: free the dropped person. And as we commingle psychism, which 546 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: is what's really developing among experiencers and the awakening people. 547 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: They're developing certain gifts and yes, everything that we have, Heidi, 548 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: will eventually be taken for militant or military purposes, basically 549 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: turned into warfare psychic. Oh definitely. Oh they're and they're 550 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: taking without asking. They're like, oh, there goes one. Let's 551 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: just you know, take them in the middle of the night, 552 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: knock them out for a little bit. I'm hearing some stories, 553 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: let me tell you. Yeah, it's it's absolutely disturbing. And 554 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: um yeah, I'm I'm a big believer and the potentials 555 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: that we have as human beings that things are gonna 556 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: come things are going to come forward, and it's kind 557 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: of exciting to see it going on. And I'm curious, 558 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: have you progressed somebody that move something in the room. Well, 559 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: I've seen that more than once. 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Energy Focus Sleep dot com or eight 598 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: hundred three nine four. Welcome back. You are listening to 599 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 600 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m para normal 601 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: podcast network, And I have Lorie McDonald and boy, we're 602 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: just getting into telekinesis occurring during some of her hypnotic 603 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: regression sessions. And you said you've done this before yourself 604 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: and others have done this, so do tell do tell 605 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, Heidi. Once I was I was having a 606 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: small UFO meeting, and all of a sudden, I felt 607 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: this enormous wave of energy and couldn't help myself but 608 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: jumped to my feet, and in my vision I could 609 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: see like the anatomy of a human being, sort of 610 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: three dimensional circling in front of me, and colors and 611 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: sounds associated with organs. And I just started saying what 612 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: I was seeing. And I paused just for the briefest 613 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: of seconds, and I looked at a candle on the 614 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: table and poof, it lit right. But I couldn't focus 615 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: on that because the information was still coming. So the 616 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: information poured into it, and long story short, at the 617 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: end of it, I um said, wow, wow, you know 618 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: this is before people use the turned download and said, 619 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that was, and um, somebody said, 620 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna say anything about the candle being lit, somebody 621 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: else that will hang on. I tape recorded this, and 622 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: so as I went to reach for the tape recorder 623 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: for the tape recorder to turn on, it blew up. 624 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: The battery blew up, acid leaked out, melted part of 625 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: the plastic, and ruined a little Chrystal coopee table. And 626 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: and so we've got enormous heightened energy during specific times, 627 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: um great times of being awe inspired and in fear, 628 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: which is why we see certain races at reptilian psychological testing, 629 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: sexual testing. All of this is to push the psychism 630 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: of the person. They backed them mentally against a wall 631 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: and see how we come out. Yeah, that's a disturbing practice. 632 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: I've heard that is being done for a certain exclusive 633 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: soldier programs here and the world as well, just in 634 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: case I ever get caught in tortured you know, see 635 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: how they hold up. Yeah, it's horrible, it is. I 636 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: just don't understand. Can you share with us some of 637 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: the more extraordinary cases are even recent cases that you've 638 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: come across that you can check share on the program. Well, 639 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm working with a lot of people right now. In fact, 640 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: I've always had a pretty busy private practice and now 641 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: busier than ever. But the majority of the cases right 642 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: now regarding e t s do you tend to be 643 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: more consciousness related. And then people are experiencing spontaneous out 644 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: of body experiences there explaining that to the level of 645 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: communication is really increasing. And but we see that there's 646 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: a history of this um. Many people believe that this 647 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: is the age of con fluence, that there have been 648 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: four great civilizations prior to us, and every time the 649 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: population of humanity hits ten billion, that is a specific frequency, 650 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: ten billion people, it's a natural evolutionary step. We believe 651 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: that there are many people trying to circumvent this once again, 652 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: moving the people's energy, trying to decrease population from many forms, 653 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: many angles, and preventing the people from hitting that ten 654 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: million mark. Because at that ten million mark, I know 655 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: that they suspect that next evolutionary step is in the 656 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: wide opening of our pineal gland or the third eye 657 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: area where telepathy is natural and other human psychism becomes developed. 658 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: So we're out about I think seven billion, seven point 659 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: six billion. We pretty much populate like rabbits when we're 660 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: not to stopped from doing that, and we we can. 661 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: You're board from COVID and lockdowns. What what was that, LORI? 662 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: What was that? Lots of you came born this year. 663 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Yes, I don't know either. Just 664 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: welcomed a new grandchild into the world. Oh boy, it's like, 665 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: look what my son made at school. And to think 666 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: I almost got to meet you, but COVID hit right 667 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: when I was supposed to go over to your place, 668 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: right you believe it? Yeah, I tell you the craziness. 669 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: You know, what do you think of the notion of 670 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: them trying to control the apocalypse? Like I've heard whispers 671 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: of such things like to have a go in this direction, 672 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 1: or or try to encourage the return of Christ. Even 673 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: have you come across this, Well, we think that he 674 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: may stage either a very religious or extraterrestrial holographic event 675 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: to sway the people into realignment or religion to they 676 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: so they begin to behave in a specific way. People 677 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: are being continuously bombarded with subconscious information that is outside 678 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: of their awareness, what they eat, what they do, what 679 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: they believe, And so the subconscious mind loves repetition. And 680 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: so the more you hear this is bad, this is bad, 681 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: this is bad, This is bad, this is bad. You 682 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 1: believe that. And so those who control the narrative are 683 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: controlling the actual subconscious program with subliminal messaging in marketing 684 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: and TV, they're just running helter skelter. You know. It 685 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: was like I can't remember the year, but all of 686 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, within about eighteen months, everybody had a new 687 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: flat screen TV. Meanwhile, prior to that, they have like 688 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: a council TV with another square TV sitting on that. 689 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, everybody's got a flat screen 690 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: digital TV. And this is the way for them to 691 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: control the air waves and for them to program us, 692 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, Heidi. In two thousand and eight, the United 693 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: States Army UH legalized I guess uh synthetic telepathy as 694 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: warfare and using psychotronics. Just like everybody has a thumb fringe, 695 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 1: we also have an energy signature, and these can be 696 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: tapped into and manipulated. And that's the problems. And they 697 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: take our energy, or deplete our psychism, or sway us 698 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: into being fearful of what's going to happen next, when 699 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: the truth is there is nothing to fear, nothing at all. 700 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: We're more than capable of moving through whatever it is 701 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: that we need to. This is not the first pandemic, 702 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: it won't be the last. There have been others, and 703 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: we continue to thrive. The differences this time the narrative, 704 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: the mandates, and the control of the people. You can't 705 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: force people into, say vaccination, you can't force people into 706 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 1: any type of medical treatment and that is against human 707 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: fundamental right. There's definitely a lot going being said in 708 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: regards to that topic. It's like, what's the real picture, 709 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: what is really going on? Why are we not getting 710 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: cargo into this country? What's going on there? There's so 711 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: many things to ponder, and yeah, it's a it's a puzzling, 712 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, it's control. The vaccines have an r F 713 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: I D chip. It's a radio frequency chip. It's programmable. 714 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: All vaccines have always had a chip in them. Generally 715 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: that chip indicated the lot or batch number that the 716 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: vaccine came from. Difference that this particular chip is that 717 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: it's got a radio frequency It would be for you 718 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: to regress one of the people who are behind such 719 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: things see the bill their beans right, absolutely, Oh, it 720 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: would be fascinating. It's just so many things to um 721 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: to consider. It's like, you know, like you said, this 722 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: is this is not new to this planet. We've been 723 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: going through a lot of different things over so many 724 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: uh lifetime centuries, you know, and and we find these 725 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: ruins and we just somehow don't have any history books 726 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: on how those things were created. Well, because everything was 727 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: dilapidated at one point and destroyed and now we're starting 728 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: all over again, and I'm like on purpose, you know, 729 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: in more the first thing they do is they take 730 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: out temples or churches, break your spirit, burned down your libraries, 731 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: take your books, beat the truth out of an indigenous person. 732 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, That's what they do. They attack and change 733 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: and try to create this amnesia and that there's only 734 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: this one world way. But that's not the way. And 735 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: if we've learned anything, but we can't overcome whatever it 736 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: is we need to and if we collectively unify and 737 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: taking our next step forward, that it would be really 738 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: we the people who create those choices. Let's hope that 739 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: we hold it together. Um, how can people get ahold 740 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: of you and see what you're up to these days? 741 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: You can check out to the website that's true you 742 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: hypnotherapy dot Com. I'm on social media, Facebook and Twitter. 743 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't really do too much of the twittering. Now 744 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: I understand. I really want to thank you so much 745 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: for coming on the show today. This is very informative, 746 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: per usual, and uh yeah, we definitely have to do 747 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: this again. It's been great. Thank you so much for 748 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: having me Heidi. Wow, we've come to the bottom of 749 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: another fabulous and informative show. I hope you all enjoyed 750 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: it because I know I did so much to learn 751 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: so many things out there, and you know, I wanted 752 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: to remind you guys to go to my main website, 753 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com. 754 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: Make it a little bit easier for people and tell 755 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: me about what it is that you're experiencing out of 756 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: the ordinary, from angels to aliens to the demonic, I 757 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: mean everything. And if you'd like to be August on 758 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: this program, let me know. And you can always keep 759 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: your emails anonymous. I do not force people to put 760 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: their information in there, so keep it anonymous if you'd like, 761 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: or say hey, I don't want to share for the show, 762 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: and you can also do that too. But this show 763 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: is really all about sharing. And if you have research, 764 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you share it with me and I will 765 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: put it out there on the air. I really will. 766 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: So also be sure to check out my social media. 767 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: Usually I put a one in front of my name, 768 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: so at one Heidi Hollis and uh I have a 769 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: paranormal comic strip called the Outlanders Comics, So at the 770 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: Outlanders Comic you know, just check out my website. It 771 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: has links to everything, has all the information Twitter or 772 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,479 Speaker 1: all that stuff Instagram. I mean, you name it. Send 773 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: me a message through any and all of it. Wow. Alright, 774 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: well you know what, I guess We will catch you 775 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: next time. Remember you've been listening to Dark Becomes Light 776 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: with me, Heidi Hollis, I mean I Heart Radio and 777 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll see 778 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: you next time, say saying for everybody too. Well, if 779 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: you like this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till 780 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the 781 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network 782 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: m