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Speaker 1: There comes a time in the life of every podcaster

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Speaker 1: and this is that moment for me. Robert Evans, host

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Speaker 1: of Behind the Bastards, the podcast where we talk about

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Speaker 1: terrible people. Normally, this is a show where we give

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Speaker 1: it a tail history of an awful person's life. But

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Speaker 1: today we're doing something special. Today, due to the massive,

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Speaker 1: outrageous clamoring popular demand, we are continuing with our investigation

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Speaker 1: into True Allegiance, the fictional novel debut of one Benethan Shapiro.

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Speaker 1: Here with me today to talk about this this opus

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Speaker 1: are my co hosts, Cody Johnston and Katie Stole. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing to that? Hello? Hello, thrilled to

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Speaker 1: everybody out there in radio. I took a more serious

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Speaker 1: tact with the intro because I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: really he set the tone of the gravity that that

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Speaker 1: this book demands from the reader. Oh yeah, we're serious

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Speaker 1: people delving into a very serious book by a very

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Speaker 1: serious person. You've covered a lot of serious, serious bad

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Speaker 1: guys in your time on the show, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's anything more serious than what we're about to

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Speaker 1: embark on. No, no, and I think that, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've I've read a lot of books about human conflict

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Speaker 1: and war. You know, books by people like Kurt Vonneguet,

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Speaker 1: who would would what what experience did Kurt Vonnegut have

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Speaker 1: to write about any of this stuff? He survived a

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Speaker 1: bombing or something. Ben Shapiro is the man that I

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Speaker 1: want to hear talk about the serious issues because I

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Speaker 1: know when Ben talks about, for example, the war in

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan or the crack trade in Detroit, Michigan, that he

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Speaker 1: is writing from a position of deep personal understanding and

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Speaker 1: authority exactly exactly and empathy and empathy. Yeah, he Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's had a lot of harrowing experiences getting ratioed online.

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Speaker 1: So he has a lot of getting ratioed online was

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Speaker 1: his Afghanistan And Afghanistan was the war that he suggested

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Speaker 1: people killed children in. Uh. He did that when he

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Speaker 1: was eighteen. Someone let him write write a fucking column

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Speaker 1: where he said, why do we care about civilian casualties

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan? So I'm very excited to see where this

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Speaker 1: book goes. I love precocious kids. Yeah, they say the

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Speaker 1: wildest thing we talked. I think a tiny bit about Lavan,

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Speaker 1: who is the one of the two villains. The two

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Speaker 1: villains of the of the of Ben Shapiro's book are

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Speaker 1: the president who wants everybody to have a job and uh,

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Speaker 1: and that makes the president of Nazi. And then of

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Speaker 1: course there's Levi on Um who is uh the black

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Speaker 1: character and is also of course a crack trading gang dealer.

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Speaker 1: Um oh, wait is um is the president in this

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Speaker 1: not black? No? No, he's not. No. That would have

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Speaker 1: been two on the sneaky seat with fiction, Cody. You

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Speaker 1: gotta separate some things. So you have a black president

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Speaker 1: who you don't like and trust, you separate him into

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Speaker 1: crack dealer in Detroit. Yeah, the duality of man. It's

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Speaker 1: basic storytelling rules, classic storytelling rules, Chekhov's racism. Okay, so um,

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Speaker 1: now we open. I noted that Levan's chapter first chapter

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Speaker 1: You're coming from the perspective of somebody who understands the

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Speaker 1: Levan's neighborhood includes eight Mile Road because Ben Shapiro saw

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Speaker 1: the movie eight Mile and literally the only thing he

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Speaker 1: other places. Great soundtrack. Oh, I'm do you think he

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Speaker 1: has memorized all the words to lose yourself? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like when he I can imagine him getting up in

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Speaker 1: it swings back and hits him. But you're right, maybe

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Speaker 1: Jesus Ben Okay. So there's a little line here about

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Speaker 1: when Ben describes how big Levan is. It's six ft

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Speaker 1: come on man, Yeah, yeah, he's in he's in Levin's barbershop.

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Speaker 1: Levan's chapter, right, And what you do if you're writing

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Speaker 1: But midway through this chapter, actually right after the line

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Speaker 1: aware of the community's justified suspicion of police. Right now,

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Speaker 1: all Sullivan was thinking about was getting this kid with

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Speaker 1: empty eyes, Oh my god, empty eyed kid. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: my god, Ben, No, oh no, oh god. I turned

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Speaker 1: the page. Okay, I'm gonna read for a spell. Here y'all. Suddenly,

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Speaker 1: think it would eventually slow like the rate of blood loss.

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Speaker 1: But he's just talking about being having an untreated gunshot

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Speaker 1: wound out in a chilly night. And I don't think

424
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Speaker 1: I left my joke backfired. Continue, No, no, no, it's

425
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: it's okay, Katie, because everything about this book is a backfire.

426
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: So Brett Hawthorne, as far as I can tell, hasn't

427
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Speaker 1: treated his gunshot wound is at all, is keeping himself

428
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Speaker 1: conscious by jamming the butt of his handgun into the

429
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Speaker 1: wound because he's that much of a badass. How that's

430
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Speaker 1: how I've fixed me. Yeah, Jesus Christ'll be better. So

431
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: here we learned that Ben Shapiro really understands Kabul. At night,

432
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Speaker 1: the streets emptied completely. Even the Taliban fighters didn't want

433
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Speaker 1: to be in the open. They'd be in nearby apartment buildings,

434
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: no doubt, huddled around their primitive fires. I mean that is,

435
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: oh my god, primitive. Look. You don't have to say

436
00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: they're primitive. There's something jokes aside, so revolting about a

437
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: white man who has clearly never been there trying to

438
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: write about something he does not understand. I mean, that's

439
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: an obvious thing, but just think about it. He hasn't

440
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: gone there, he hasn't spent time researching. Yeah, and it's

441
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: a few movies that are like this, and that is

442
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: colored his entire opinion about what it's like. Yeah, and

443
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: he clearly like has a lack of understanding about how

444
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: the Taliban works, like their monsters and everything. But like,

445
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: right now we're seeing a situation that is as close

446
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: as possible to analogus about like what he's talking about

447
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: here with the war in Afghanistan like turns completely in

448
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 1: the Taliban's favor. It's happening now. They're killing dozens of

449
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: Afghan security forces a day. Um. But Ben is talking

450
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: about how they've like destroyed all power to kabul Um basically,

451
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: which hasn't happened because for one thing, part of how

452
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: do you win an insurgency the way the Taliban has

453
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: is you don't like deliberately piss off civilians for no

454
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Speaker 1: good reason. Um, I would hold he framed them like

455
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: primitive caveman, Robert, Yeah, exactly. Well you could just use

456
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: the word primitive when you're describing them, Yeah, that would

457
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: be that would be too obvious. Because it's a fire.

458
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: It's necessary. It's like, okay, well it's primitive fire to like,

459
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: these are primitive people, and I think they're all right, man, Yeah,

460
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: these are Yeah, he he had to really emphasize how

461
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: primitive and pitiful the Afghan people are. Um. So Brett's

462
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: headed towards the airport because the airport he knew would

463
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: still be in American hands. Um, yeah, he knew he'd

464
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Speaker 1: but he knew he'd have to stay quiet. With the

465
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Speaker 1: Taliban presumably running the place, there would be a bounty

466
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Speaker 1: out for US soldiers. Every time he brushed his shattered

467
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: arm against the wall, swollen to twice its normal size,

468
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: he gasped in pain. Then reluctantly he took the magazine

469
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Speaker 1: out of the gun and bit down on it. Hard

470
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: better to crack a few teeth than to be featured

471
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Speaker 1: on CNN being dragged through the streets, and an empty

472
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: gun wouldn't be of any use to him anyway. Why

473
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: is it still in your hand, then, ben? Um? Yeah,

474
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: so he here he compares it to the last helicopter

475
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: out of Psaigon. Yadda YadA YadA. Um. So he gets

476
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: to the gate and he realizes that the gates been

477
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: blown wide open in the US air base in Afghanistan

478
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: has been taken over by the Talifan, and all of

479
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the U S soldiers are dead. Yeah, so that's cool.

480
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: The advanced soldiers and their primitive enemy. Yeah yeah, they'd

481
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: somehow managed to to blow the gate open and execute

482
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Speaker 1: all the survivors. Um, so that's awesome. Um, good, good

483
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Speaker 1: for the Taliban. I guess you know you gotta you

484
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: gotta support an underdog at times like this. Um. Blood

485
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: covered the floor, the walls, Its slicked the floor at

486
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: like oil at a transmission shop. Okay, say I need

487
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: you to say that sentence again. Please. Blood covered the floor,

488
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Speaker 1: the walls, It slicked the floor like oil at a

489
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Speaker 1: transmission shop. Transmission shop, another place Ben has never been,

490
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: like what a mechanics shop is like just the floors

491
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: coated in oil all the time, Like just like you

492
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: repeating yourself, like it's covered, it's covered. Also it's flicked,

493
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: like just do pick one do the second part? Do

494
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: the metaphor that you're trying to do. Yeah, whatever, it's

495
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Um. So yeah, they the Taliban who have

496
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: been Brett tells us is sure to tell us our

497
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: fucking animals, um have tortured all of the people that

498
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: they captured horribly before killing them. Um. Which is interesting

499
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: because one time when they captured a US soldier, they

500
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: kept him alive for like five years and he was

501
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: eventually ransom back to the United States. Um. And they

502
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: were pretty bad to him, but they didn't uh torture

503
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: him to death just for fun, because that's not productive.

504
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: But you know, been been been understands the Taliban, Yeah,

505
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: he gets it. You know who doesn't torture people? The

506
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: United States of America. Never. Never, I don't think that's

507
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: ever happened. Um. So now, okay, finally, eight or nine

508
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: hours after getting his wound, Bret Hawthorne decides to set

509
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Speaker 1: his arm to like actually treat his his shattered and

510
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: gunshot riddled arm. So that's that's when you do that.

511
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: That's the time. That's the time for it. Yeah, yeah,

512
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: that's good. So he can tell by looking at it

513
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: that there's no internal bleeding um that. But the arm

514
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: is swollen and it's bulging. Yeah, if he left the

515
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: broken bone hanging around inside, it would cut an artery

516
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Ben Shapiro medical expert here, Oh my god,

517
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: doctor his wife and doctor honey honey. Uh does this

518
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: sound realistic? You know I'm putting it in anyway. I

519
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: love it because like he definitely didn't ask her, because

520
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: why would he ask a woman anything about their opinion?

521
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: But she definitely didn't read it. Yeah, yeah, because she'd

522
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: be like, Ben, don't but she couldn't. How could she

523
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: get through this? Yeah, that's the secret to their marriages.

524
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: She does not pay attention to any of the things

525
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, never been online. So he he manages

526
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: to guess them the dead ambassador because remember the corrupt

527
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: US ambassador who got his job by supporting the president's campaign,

528
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: and so he got the cushy position of an ambassador

529
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Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, which is what every every rich man once. Yes,

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00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: you remember how Trump gave all of his donors ambassadorships

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Speaker 1: to Afghanistan and Iraq the real position. Yeah, that that

532
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: that crown jewel of a position. Yeah, I mean I'm

533
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: pretty sure he did give donors ambassador ships, yes, but

534
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: not Yeah, but like you know countries where you'd win

535
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: a vacation, right right, right, Yeah, like Germany. Yeah, you

536
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: get to go to Germany if you support the president,

537
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: you tend to not put someone alike as if bassaard

538
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: to Afghanistan. Not a great gig um. But he he

539
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: opens the briefcase, the locked briefcase that is like handcuffed

540
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: to the dead Uh ambassador. Um that the Taliban who

541
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: had like stolen everything that wasn't nailed down, apparently left

542
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: this rich man's briefcase just unopened, didn't shoot it open

543
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: or anything. But Brett is able to guess the pass

544
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: code for the briefcase. Um, and it pops open, and

545
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: inside is a glock because you've gotta have a gun, um,

546
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: a passport, a stack of Afghan money, a stack of

547
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: US money, and a bag of opium. Yes, oh my god. Okay,

548
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: So there's a xerox copy of a map with coordinance

549
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: on it in Iran and in Iraq, and quote Brett

550
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: knew what it meant. Brett had known of the CIA's

551
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: discovery of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq for years.

552
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: Everyone on the inside had known. The media had reported

553
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: that the government had lied that somehow all the world's

554
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: greatest intelligence agencies had been dead wrong. But that is

555
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: the case. Hussain had smuggled some of the weapons out

556
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: of the country to Syria. Others had been buried in

557
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: the desert. Yeah. Yeah, they'd been taken to Iran, the

558
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: country that Saddam Hussein fought for ten years and an

559
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: unspeakably brutal war that killed a million people. That's where

560
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: he sends his weapons. This wild I've read the reports. Yeah, okay,

561
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: so the weapons were buried. Just so sorry, I got

562
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: that wrong. I need to be fair to Ben Shapiro,

563
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: who's Saddam Hussein didn't smuggler weapons into Iran. UM. Hussain

564
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: had smuggled some of the weapons out of the country

565
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to Syria, a country that he had obviously great relationships with. UM.

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Speaker 1: Others had buried. Others had been buried in the desert,

567
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: just the desert. No country given. Now that they were

568
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: smuggled into Iran, because the the U s Ambassador to

569
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Afghanistan and friend of the president helped the government of

570
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Iran get us like it helped smuggle Saddam's new like

571
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: like buried weapons into Iran. The ambassador did, so that's

572
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: how they got to Iran because the ambassador, as as

573
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Brett Hawthorne says, right before passing out, which is how

574
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: the chapter ends, you said a bit you sold us out.

575
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: So that's the story. That's the story. That's a good line.

576
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: Uh good, it's a good writing. Character development a lot

577
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: to analyze their Number one the fact that both Ben

578
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: thinks it's important to know that all of the great

579
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: US intelligence agencies were totally right about Saddam's weapons of

580
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: mass destruction, but that Saddam got them out of the country,

581
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: and that in the intervening decade, almost those great agencies

582
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: weren't able to find where any of them were buried.

583
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: But this random ambassador figured it out and was able

584
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: to get them smuggled into Iran without these perfect and

585
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: incredible intelligence agencies, the best the world has ever known,

586
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: realizing what was happening. Right they were, they were, They

587
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: were telling the truth the whole time. They just didn't.

588
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: They couldn't. They didn't figure out that. They didn't know

589
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: the rest of it. They didn't the important stuff. Ben

590
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: would tell us that if we'd let them torture more people,

591
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: they would have got it right. Good kind of torture Yeah,

592
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: I love what if this is a beautiful again It's

593
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: just it's like I said this last time, like I

594
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: wish like Jordan Peterson would write a novel so we

595
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: can really see, like here's here's you, here's the essence

596
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: of you. But I just love what a just a

597
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: perfect like fantasy. This is yeah, this this like anti reality,

598
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: uh wish fulfillment fantasy of his Yeah, like the facts

599
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: don't care about the feeling. This guy just being like,

600
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: what what if they were what? But what what? What

601
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: if they were? Right? It is all the kids that

602
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: die from cops, what if they were put up to it?

603
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: But l Sharpton, Yeah, it's in two chapters we've seen

604
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: like been going out of his way to create a

605
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: world where everything he believes but can't factually back up

606
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: everything he feels, you might say, is yeah, it's art.

607
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: It's art in the worst way possible. So good. It

608
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: reminds me of that one line from Royal Tenant Bombs.

609
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that Custer died at Little Big Big Horn,

610
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: But what my book presupposes is maybe he didn't. Maybe

611
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: he didn't. Like what if everything that I can't prove

612
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: was actually yeah provable was proven and immediately obvious, like

613
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: this crack dealer sees Al Sharpton hanging out in his

614
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: cracked in and it's like, oh, of course Al Sharpton

615
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: is here to make a deal with me. And this

616
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: deal is, of course, to set up an eight year

617
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: old boy to die, which none of us has issues with,

618
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: so that we can protest the cops. Um. Yeah boy

619
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: yea the dead eyed boy. Uh. And of course all

620
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were smuggled with the

621
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: help of a Democrat into Iran, which is what all

622
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: the democrats want, is for Iran to have Saddam's weapons.

623
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak for others, but it's what

624
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, I mean, Katie, you've been you've been

625
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: very outspoken about your desire to go back in time

626
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: give Saddam Hussein chemical weapons and then send them to Iran. Um.

627
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: Which is an interesting point to take. But uh, you know,

628
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Speaker 1: I respect your consistency. Thank you, Robert. I appreciate that.

629
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you tolerate my, my my profound viewpoints.

630
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, we all this is America, and we're not

631
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: going to agree on everything. I for one think that

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Speaker 1: Saddam should have been given nuclear weapons so that he

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Speaker 1: could smuggle them into the inner cities in order to

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Speaker 1: execute a war on white people. But you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's where this is going. Maybe I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: this might be where that's going. Katie is a yeah.

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Speaker 1: So our next chapter is a President Prescott chapter, and

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Speaker 1: it starts with him talking to an analyst about how

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Speaker 1: the recessions coming. But it doesn't make any sense because

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Speaker 1: the airlines have been doing well this year and the

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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: dip in the stock market doesn't make sense. Why so

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Speaker 1: words on pages. Yeah, it's uh, it's kind of amazing.

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Speaker 1: So he's got this analyst in there talking to him

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Speaker 1: about how it doesn't make sense that that things aren't

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Speaker 1: going great for the economy, and he also has General

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Speaker 1: Bill Collier, uh sitting right there. Um quote. Prescott couldn't

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Speaker 1: just blow this irritating asshole off. He had to at

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Speaker 1: least appear interested. Thankfully, that was his specialty. So Prescott said,

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Speaker 1: he's talking to the general. The analyst cleared his throat.

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Speaker 1: Let me start at the beginning. You remember nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: Prescott nodded amiably. So in a couple of months before

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Speaker 1: nine eleven, there was a huge jump and currency in circulation.

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Speaker 1: That probably means that somebody, somebody with an awful lot

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Speaker 1: of money in domestic bank account, for example, cashed out

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Speaker 1: in order to avoid blowback after the attack. He's been

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Speaker 1: going truth or here, remember yeah, and the President just

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Speaker 1: nods mean, yes, I do vaguely remember nine eleven. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: the thing that happened on the watch of the president

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Speaker 1: that immediately preceded me. Yes, I do remember that. With

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Speaker 1: a skip in his step, he nods, he smiles and

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Speaker 1: nods wistfully, those were the day. Yeah, boy, it's it's great.

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Speaker 1: So this guy explains stock shorting to the president in

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Speaker 1: a really boring way. Uh so, yeah, it's it's it's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: So this kid is saying that basically, somebody shorting the

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Speaker 1: US market, and it's proof that some dastardly foreigner knows

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Speaker 1: that there's a nine eleven style attack. Um, it's about

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Speaker 1: to hit the United States. And Prescott doesn't grasp any

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Speaker 1: of this and seems to have no idea what this

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Speaker 1: kid is saying. And then the grizzled general growls. What

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Speaker 1: he's trying to say is that we're about to get

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Speaker 1: hit hard. So that's Robert. You could have been an actor.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. I love acting. I

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Speaker 1: love the theater. To get permission to do the audio

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Speaker 1: book of this and get a cast of people to

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Speaker 1: play each character, yes, yes we should, Katie, I think

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Speaker 1: that would be really fun. Can I be Ellen? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You can be Ellen, will get I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm just gonna spit ball here. But Ben Shapiro

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Speaker 1: to be bred haf Yeah, every big man in this book. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I oh my god. I would love that, especially if,

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Speaker 1: like if whoever does the narrator does like this kind

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Speaker 1: of voice. Whatever they do the narration, and then whenever

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Speaker 1: Hawthorne talks, it's bend to come out with this good.

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Speaker 1: I bet we could get an all star studied cast

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Speaker 1: for this project. I bet Chris Evans would do it.

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Speaker 1: He hates. Yeah. So it turns out that it's China. Um.

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Speaker 1: China is the country that's that's shorting the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Stock market because they know that there's an attack coming.

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Speaker 1: Um and the president primitive Chinese and the president so

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Speaker 1: the general is like, we have to do something about this.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, there's an attack coming. This is serious.

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Speaker 1: And the president uh, speaks to him like he's the

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Speaker 1: third grader, which in the President's mind, this general is

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Speaker 1: because all American Democratic presidents hate the military. Um, and

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Speaker 1: they don't, for example, higher numerous generals and then fire them,

696
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Speaker 1: saying that they're all idiots. That would never happen with

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Speaker 1: a Republican president, only a Democrat with disrespect the wonderful

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Speaker 1: generals this way, so that's great. Uh yeah, okay, So

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Speaker 1: the general's advice sums out to being all I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is that we ought to check get out, sir, if

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Speaker 1: only to cover our asses should something go wrong. And

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Speaker 1: the President says, well, I disagree, this discussion is tabled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool. Um, that's cool. There's also a line

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Speaker 1: in there where they talk about the nine eleven report

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Speaker 1: but it gets rejected out of hands is compromised. Um,

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Speaker 1: so that love the thing I didn't realize being believed.

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Speaker 1: I just his his His perspective on Obama is so

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Speaker 1: funny because, like I know, at least we and a

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00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of people listening, I'm sure like, wow, Obama compromised

710
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Speaker 1: too much, and he really bent over backwards to please

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Speaker 1: people he shouldn't have and so on, and Ben just

712
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: like Obama went in there and he told everyone to

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Speaker 1: shut the funk up, and he did whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, man, what do you Yeah, what's the narrative?

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Speaker 1: So immediately after this meeting, the President gets on the

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Speaker 1: phone with the Premier of China, which is now international

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Speaker 1: relations tend to work as a general rule, um, and

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Speaker 1: the president Premiere of China immediately agrees to a request

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Speaker 1: from the President to buy a bunch of bonds. So

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Speaker 1: Prescott gets off and sells out America to the Chinese instantly,

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Speaker 1: like right after this meeting, uh and quote Prescott thanked

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Speaker 1: him profusely and promised him that the United States understood

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Speaker 1: the position of the Chinese government with respect to military

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Speaker 1: exercises in the South China Sea, but asked that all

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Speaker 1: that the expert exercises take place sporadically rather than all

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Speaker 1: at once. And then hung up. And they say the

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Speaker 1: Chinese are tough to deal with, Prescott thought to himself.

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Speaker 1: Then he ignores a call from the governor of Texas

729
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Speaker 1: because he hates Bubba Davis. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: democratic president holding personal grudges against specific states. Um. So

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Speaker 1: he yeah, a thing that only a Democrat would do.

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Speaker 1: So he tries to ignore Bubba Davis, but Bubba says

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Speaker 1: it's urgent, so he has to get on the phone

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Speaker 1: with him, and Bubba is just begging him to send

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Speaker 1: troops to the border. Um yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He wants him to send troops to the border because

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Speaker 1: one of the governor's staffers was kidnapped by cartel people.

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Speaker 1: This book is wild. Yeah, so that's an that's an

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Speaker 1: act of war. So the governor says, this is an

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Speaker 1: act of war, and the President says, rightly, it's not

741
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Speaker 1: an act of war if it's not by a foreign government,

742
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Speaker 1: which you might recognize as accurate. I think he's trying

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Speaker 1: to do too much. He's shoving five different books into

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Speaker 1: one yes, yes, because he has to get all of

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Speaker 1: his political beliefs into this one book. Um yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: neat because like by this logic, I don't know, we

747
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Speaker 1: could look at the fucking kidnapping of or like the

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Speaker 1: mafia executions of like local politicians in the Northeast that

749
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Speaker 1: happened in like the sixties and seventies and eighties, Like

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Speaker 1: what are we going to war with Italy? Is that?

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Speaker 1: What that is? No, it was a crime syndicate killing

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Speaker 1: somebody who got in the way of what they were

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00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: do doing. Only dangerous lunatics would view that as an

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00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: active war with a foreign government. Yeah. We I mean

755
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: we could, we could do that with just any crime.

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Speaker 1: Oh and so the government war with that nation. Now, yeah,

757
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: one of their citizens committed a crime against us. So

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00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: the President's like, it's not an active war if it's

759
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: not by a government. And the Governor of Texas as

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00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: horship Mr President, you know as well I do that

761
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the Mexican government is run by the cartels, and they

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Speaker 1: killed one of my people, one of your people. So

763
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: been understands Mexico. Um, it totally understands Mexico. Uh, that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Um. You know what else is good and great, Robert,

765
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: the products and services that support this podcast. Yes, that part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the saddest I've ever heard you. Yeah, I this is

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you all, less fun than

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Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, we're getting that's good. That's good. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to note before we roll out to ads,

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Speaker 1: I just want to get to the end of Prescott's chapter. Um.

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Speaker 1: So he gets off the phone with the governor, UM

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Speaker 1: and says that he's going to charge them with breaking

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Speaker 1: federal law if his boys on the border shoot anybody. Um.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, then he hangs up on the governor of

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Speaker 1: Texas after threatening to put him in jail if he

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Speaker 1: does anything like that. And then he gets a call

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Speaker 1: from Jazz Jasmine. Jack's the national security advisor um also

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Speaker 1: his longtime political mentor. He could hear her sexy fingers

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Speaker 1: manipulating the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's in the situation room,

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Speaker 1: Mr President, and she says, you might want to get

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Speaker 1: down there. Something about bread Hawthorne. Well, I thought you

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Speaker 1: were going to say something about bread. No, something about

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Speaker 1: her sexy fingers again, Yeah, the sexy fingers of his

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Speaker 1: national security advisor, um playing with the You could hear

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00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: sexy fingers playing with a phone. I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out who that is because I was thinking at first,

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Speaker 1: condo Liza Rice. Um. But she wouldn't work for a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: would she. And also yeah, I don't know, Um, we'll

789
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Speaker 1: we'll see if it becomes clear where Ben's going with this. Obviously,

790
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: every single person is somebody in real life. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm taking away right now is that Ben's got a

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Speaker 1: thing for fingers. You know, that's what it does, Ben does.

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Speaker 1: Fish gotta be gotta be real tall and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: check out those sexy fingers. You know what I've got

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Speaker 1: a thing for. Here we go, We're back. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: we opened with another chapter from Ellen, Brett's wife, uh,

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Speaker 1: who escaped you know, murder although her friend got shot

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Speaker 1: by the cartel uh. And it starts with her noticing

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Speaker 1: that that Brett had lost weight. Funny that would be

800
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: the first thought to cross Ellen's mind when she saw

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00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: him on television. But it was he he was always

802
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: so self conscious about the four or five pounds around

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Speaker 1: his middle section. He couldn't shake what he liked to

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Speaker 1: call the fame to Hawthorne underbelly. That's just been that's

805
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: just been being anxious about his own weight problem. Personal. Yeah,

806
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: body issues manifest once again in this book. That is

807
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: just a window into his soul. Yeah yeah, a complete

808
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and utter window. So Brett Hawthorne has been captured. Um yeah, yep, yep.

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00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: That's what happened. After he passed out having realized that

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Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons had gotten smuggled into Iran by

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00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: the US ambassador to Afghanistan. He should have bit down

812
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: harder on that bullet. And now he's in a real screen.

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00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: Now he's in a real, real, real trouble. Brett Hawthorne

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00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: is Uh so Brett's captured. He's wearing an orange jumpsuit. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's this is like that they they've gone and

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00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: like gone, like isis video or all kind of interact

817
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: video from this even though it is the Taliban? Um.

818
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, whatever, that's close enough. At least he's captured

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Speaker 1: and being ransomed, unlike you know all of the other

820
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Speaker 1: ransomable people like the a ambassador who they just murdered

821
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: for no reason. Um. Yeah. Yeah, So they're they're threatening

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00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: the president that if he doesn't withdraw the US like

823
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Speaker 1: US bombers from Afghanistan, they're going to cut off General

824
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Speaker 1: Brett Hawthorne's head. Um. And then the President says, we're

825
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Speaker 1: not going to bow before terrorists, which you'd expect to

826
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: be like the attitude that's been been with support. But

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out that the President is actually

828
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Speaker 1: somehow being evil in this too. Yeah. If he cuts

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Speaker 1: off his head, then that's there's that four pounds doesn't

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00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: have to worry about anymore, right, Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 1: You need to interject. I opened Twitter randomly as we're

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Speaker 1: sitting here and Shapiro is trending, So oh, dear god,

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Speaker 1: what did he do. Oh it's because he said that, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's about COVID and uh, sacrificing your grandma for the economy.

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Speaker 1: And if it was young people dying to be fine.

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Speaker 1: But if you're grandma, if somebody who eighty one dies

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Speaker 1: of COVID, that is not the same thing as somebody

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Speaker 1: who is thirty dying of COVID nineteen. If grandma dies

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Speaker 1: in a nursing home at anyone, that's tragic and it's terrible. Also,

840
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: life expectancy in the United States is eighty That's a

841
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: really good Shapiro impression. So thank you so much. I

842
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: was trying really hard but sacrifice the Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro,

843
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: famed advocate of life and its preciousness. Um. Oh, it

844
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: looks like he was saying that to Dave Reuben. Yeah,

845
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: that sounds about right. That sounds about right. Anyway, back

846
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: to the topic in hand, Yeah, I love it. Also,

847
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: just sorry real quick in regards to exactly this that

848
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Dave Reuben earlier said a similar thing

849
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: to Larry King, his hero, and Larry King was like, Dave,

850
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Come on nice anyway, sorry, go ahead, amazing.

851
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: So Ellen sees her husband kidnapped, and you know, the

852
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: President say that he's not going to rescue him, which

853
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: is bad in this instance, although I think in other

854
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: instances Been would support the president refusing to negotiate with terrorists. Anyway,

855
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: Ellen lives in Texas like all good Americans except for

856
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, who lives in California. But let's not analyze

857
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: that suit too much. Oh good lord, there's a lot. Yeah,

858
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: oh god, Okay. So there's protesters out in front of

859
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: the Texas Governor's office saying close the border. Enough is enough,

860
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: protect your people, and she's walking through the crowd. She

861
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: edged her way past one burly linebacker of a man

862
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: wearing a cowboy hat and a gun, which was perfectly

863
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: legal in the state. That was reason enough for Ellen

864
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: to love the lone Star state. The fact that people

865
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: can wear guns there is enough. Um, there wouldn't be

866
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: any random shootings in this capitol building anytime soon, even

867
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: if the media made it seem as though every civilian

868
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: with a gun represented a threat to public safety. For

869
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: every nut with a gun, she knew there were ten

870
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 1: willing to put him down. What happens on eleven people

871
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: in a crowd start shooting at each other. Ben like,

872
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm as pro gun as you're gonna get. But come on, man,

873
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: you're really fucking stupid. Yes, eleven people in a crowd

874
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: having a gunfight is the situation. We want to encourage

875
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: what we want. That's how we say, that's how we

876
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: were safe. Yeah. She showed the guards her I d

877
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and they waved her through. Two knocks on the door,

878
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: and she stood across from one time Republican presidential candidate

879
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: and four time governor Boba Davis after Stinton Vietnam back

880
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: in the late sixties. Davis a big bear of a man,

881
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: burly and fun. I to ask you at some point

882
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: to do a word search. Please, I'm gonna do it.

883
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna do bear

884
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: of a man. Oh. I was gonna say, please do

885
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: a search for the words short. Oh. Yeah, because I

886
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: don't think that this world has a short person in

887
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: it unless they are a dead eyed eight year old boy.

888
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think so. I think everyone is over

889
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: six ft tall in this book. I don't think that

890
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: there is a short person in it. Yeah. That is

891
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: so within like three paragraphs, the two people, the two

892
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: new characters that were unbelievable. I love it, I love it. Yeah,

893
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: she's described two characters in the same page as big

894
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: and burly. Um. Yeah, so Davis, Anna Hawthorne or the

895
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: only two people described as bearer of a man. But

896
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: let's see short, do we do? We get a short

897
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: in here? Short years ago, shortly after midnight? Yetda YadA

898
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: yeada uh, sexy blonde in a short skirt. Okay, here

899
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: we go yet then yeah, so there's there. Yeah, actually

900
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: all the terrorists are short people. You fucking no, No,

901
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: it seems it seems like the terrorists. Yeah. The first

902
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: two people I find described as short are a short

903
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: man named Mohammed who seems to be doing some sort

904
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: of terroristy deal and like a short Russian. Um, maybe

905
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: so fucking happy and oh my gosh, this book is tragic.

906
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: Then it's not all of his own self loathing. Yeahs short,

907
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I think all the terrorists are short. I think all

908
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: the terrorists are short. Um. And now it is worth

909
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: noting that the main bad guy leave on or at

910
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: least one of the big bad guys is tall and shredded,

911
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: so as as was Yard. The man with no other name,

912
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: the nameless kid in the student with the jersey might

913
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: be a bad guy, but he's not a terrorist. Yeah,

914
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 1: so there we go. So, yeah, we get a little

915
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: bit about Bubba Davis, how he came home without a job,

916
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: but then he got a job, which I don't know

917
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: why you of course he came home without a job.

918
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: He was leaving his job. Most people like who are

919
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: in Vietnam didn't like set up another gig before they

920
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: left the military, Like, that's not how that works. But okay,

921
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: he gets a job working on an oil rig, which

922
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: he loved. Uh and and then he felt good enough

923
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: to go out on his own with a bank roll

924
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: from his father in law. He had to live frugally, um,

925
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: which I don't think you can do when your rich

926
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: dad gives you the money to start a business. I

927
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess you can buy relative terms. But yeah,

928
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: so he patented a new drilling technique that skyrocketed efficiency.

929
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: We don't get any detail on that because Ben doesn't

930
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: know anything about actually mining whale or how it works,

931
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: and he became one of the richest men in the state. Yeah,

932
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: he did. He definitely saw arm ageddon. Uh yeah. So uh.

933
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: He only got into politics because his local state assemblyman

934
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: begun calling for environmental reviews of all drilling. The way

935
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: Bubba figured it, he had no choice. His livelihood, the

936
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: livelihood of his workers was at stake. He ran, he won,

937
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: and he kept on winning. So that's he didn't want

938
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: environmental reviews of drilling. That's why he got in the

939
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: politics because that was clearly bad, like just being like,

940
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: let's see what this might do to the environment is

941
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: fundamentally toxic in the eyes of one Benneth and Shapiro. Um,

942
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: so that's that's good. His campaign slogan was don't let

943
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: him horne swaggle you, which, speaking as a Texan, that's

944
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: a word we use, all right, don't let a horn

945
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: swoggle you. Don't don't let him horns swaggle you. Uh yep,

946
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: um yeah, that's um it's god, oh god, oh yeah,

947
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: it was. What the fucking perfect here for that? It is?

948
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: It really does show that ben is trapped in some

949
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: ways in that world of like late nineteen nineties Rush

950
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Limbaugh radio politics like, which is kind of why he's

951
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: felt increasingly sort of left behind by conservative media. This

952
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: is my my feeling in the Trump era because he

953
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: is sort of permanently stuck in this like the like

954
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: he's really obsessed with the environmentalists are uh corrupt and

955
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: part of some sort of scam like this. This paragraph

956
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: goes in later to how um the Bubba opened his

957
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: campaign by naming the top three environmental officers in the

958
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: state and reading off how much they'd received from lobbyists

959
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: for for the environmentalists, and then how much those environmental

960
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: groups had received from global competitors like the Saudi government.

961
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: So Ben believes that the Saudi Arabia is funding the

962
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: environmentalist movement in the United States richest environmentalists. Yeah, Bubba

963
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: Davis played politics the way like he played put football.

964
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: He pushed the line. The press called it swagger. He

965
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: just called it the Texas way. Been really gets Texas,

966
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah really does. Yeah. God, that's it's that is interesting

967
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: and true. I think what you're like, how stuck he

968
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: is um in that era? Um. He has described himself

969
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: as a rush baby in the past. Yeah, Like I

970
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: can see that. I like, I love I love Russia. Limbaugh. Um,

971
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: he's my hero and so on fits it's amazing. Uh yeah,

972
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: so uh Bubba's Bubba's angry um because of the yeah

973
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: he's he's he's trying to stop people from get horn

974
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: swaggled the hell I So he says that, uh have

975
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: you seen the crime statistics in El Paso? Used to

976
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: be one of the safest city cities in the state.

977
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: Now it looks like goddamn Phoenix. Al Paso was in

978
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen and is still today one of the

979
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: safest cities in the United States, Like yeah, and it

980
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: has been for a long time, like despite its proximity

981
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: to Yeah, what do you like? It's a good example

982
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: of why you're wrong about everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like

983
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: El Passing in the world is like, oh my god.

984
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: After eight years of Obama, El Passo was still one

985
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: of the safest cities in the country. So Ben just

986
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: pretends that it got dangerous under a different fake Democrat

987
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: not named Obama, so that he can Yeah fucking christ Ben, Yeah,

988
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. It is very embarrassing, embarrassing. That's embarrassing about this. Yeah,

989
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: an embarrassing Oh good god. Um, okay, So that's great.

990
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: So uh. The governor talks to Ellen about his conversation

991
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: with the President and about how even if the President

992
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: says it's not a war, he knows that what's going

993
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: on at the border is a war. Um. And Ellen says,

994
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: do you think Prescott is bluffing about like sending him

995
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: to prison if he, you know, uh, cracks down the border.

996
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: It's just what he wants. He wants another Waco, and

997
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: even better, a Waco created by one of his chief

998
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: political opponents, because Waco went really well for the Clinton administration.

999
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: One the hell are you talking about? Yeah? Yeah, so

1000
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: seven out of ten Texans want to militarize the border, um,

1001
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Which yeah, so this Ben is really on board with

1002
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: militarizing the border. And that's what what this this chapter

1003
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: is really all about. Um. And then this is really

1004
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: interesting because it involves the governor of Texas dealing with

1005
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: a massive problem UM in his state that has led

1006
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: the loss of life and has outraged the population of

1007
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: his state. And the governor recognizes that the only way

1008
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: to deal with the problem is to take Like the

1009
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: governor goes to the federal government and asks for help

1010
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: dealing with this problem, and a careless hateful president who

1011
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: rejects him immediately because of where he comes from, refuses

1012
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: to help him, and threatens him if he does the

1013
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: necessary It takes the necessary steps to to do anything.

1014
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: And so this chapter is all about Bubba, the governor

1015
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: of Texas and his assistant chief assistant, deciding that they

1016
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: have to go out on their own independent of the

1017
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: federal government because they have been abandoned by their government,

1018
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: and they're the heroes. I wonder how Bim feels about

1019
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: things like this that might be happening now that are

1020
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: real and not hypothetical and don't involve imagining a crisis

1021
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: on the border. This is fiction, Robert. It's amazing that

1022
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: a real thing you could see as a parallel to

1023
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: something Ben as writing about here happens. But it's the

1024
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: complete opposite of everything been suspects, and he hates it.

1025
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: That's incredible. That's incredible. It's beautiful art. Yeah. Yeah, And

1026
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: I am exhausted, and we've been at this for more

1027
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: than an hour, and I think, yeah, and I think

1028
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: we've come to like the moment of conclusion for this episode,

1029
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: because it's really telling to me that Ben does like

1030
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: the fact that there's so many perils. You've got like

1031
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: a state that the President of the United States clearly

1032
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: just sort of automatically hates anyone from that state and

1033
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: rejects them because President Prescott hates Texans. Um our our

1034
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: president has a hatred of California. You've got that governor

1035
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: who has to take action to protect his state, and

1036
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: that action means doing things that like could be seen

1037
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: as like pre secessionist um. And in Ben's book, they're

1038
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: the hero because what he's trying to do is send

1039
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: soldiers to the border UM And in reality, they're trying

1040
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: to lock down their state and and build more ventilators,

1041
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: and they're the bad guys in Ben's head. I do

1042
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: think we need to to, you know, earmark where we

1043
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: are and continue to work our way through this book

1044
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: a few chapters at a time, because honestly, I'm too

1045
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: invested at this point and I'm never going to read it,

1046
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: but I want to know how all of this comes together.

1047
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: If it does, yeah, I'm sure lev On becomes a

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Speaker 1: figure of national let's with our prediction. So my prediction

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Speaker 1: is that leve On will become a respectable national political

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Speaker 1: figure while still selling crack cocaine UM and that BLM

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Speaker 1: will cause a bunch of violent protests that necessitate they

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Speaker 1: be put down violently. Um after they fake that eight

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Speaker 1: year old's death. UM. I predict that that Bubba will

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Speaker 1: become the president. Maybe I'm wrong about that. There might

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Speaker 1: be like a civil war thing that happens at the end.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where bins leading with this.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say, is I think

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be some sort of a civil war.

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Speaker 1: Bubba will assume the presidency, locked down the borders, and

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Speaker 1: America will live happily ever after. O. Yeah. I also

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Speaker 1: suspect we're going to hear more about this this international

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Speaker 1: conspiracy against the United States that involves at least China,

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Speaker 1: but I bet, I bet some ridiculous countries will also

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Speaker 1: show up. I think the weapons of mass destructions are

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Speaker 1: going to end up with black lives matters. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: bet gets in Saddam's nukes. There's going to be right,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a threat where Lavon has the weapons

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Speaker 1: of mass instruction and they need to stop him from

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Speaker 1: using them. I truly believe that's what's happening, because that

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Speaker 1: that that is the most ben Shapiro kind of Republican

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Speaker 1: thing that could happen is that the evil black activists

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Speaker 1: who hate cops get Saddam Hussain's weapons of next destruction

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Speaker 1: from Iran. It's everything he hates but is in reality connected,

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Speaker 1: in no way whatsoever being connected, which is what all

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Speaker 1: Republicans have to believe happens, right, that everything is a

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Speaker 1: little piece of the puzzle and it's all coming to

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Speaker 1: a head. Yea. God, it's it's a kind of thinking

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Speaker 1: we all have to avoid. Like there's a tendency to

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Speaker 1: believe that everything bad is tight into everything else bad.

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Speaker 1: And it's made more complicated by the fact that like

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Speaker 1: a lot of shitty people are all friends with each other.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, and it's it's a it's but

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Speaker 1: it's also oftentimes the difference between well, their interests naturally

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Speaker 1: aligned yea, as opposed to like they're all meeting in

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Speaker 1: like their meeting in a room and they're saying like, well,

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Speaker 1: you go do this and I'll go do this, and

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Speaker 1: then like it's not it doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 1: conspiracy for interests to aligne. Yeah, it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: why Kim Jong un. There were times when he was

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Speaker 1: willing to like be positive about Trump and the administrations

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Speaker 1: because it helped individual things he wanted to have happened,

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Speaker 1: And there was no there was no coordination because he

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Speaker 1: was also happy to throw Trump under the bus at times,

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Speaker 1: because none of these groups actually give a shit about

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Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, but in Ben's head, Black Lives Matter,

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Speaker 1: I'm certain is about to be collaborating with Iran to

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Speaker 1: use Saddam's weapons of mass destruction on America. That that

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Speaker 1: is I think where this has to be headed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the domestic terrorists are working with the international terrorists. The

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Speaker 1: domestic terrorists, which certainly are not going to be for example,

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Speaker 1: white militia dudes, who, as we all know, never commit terrorism. No,

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Speaker 1: they're the eros. I'll tell you what if some white

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Speaker 1: militia dudes uh went somewhere and did and did some

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Speaker 1: crimes to people in Mexico. I bet uh he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like, well, this justifies Mexico starting a war with US. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There's never been a case of members of a militia

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Speaker 1: killing a child on the border. That never happened. In

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Speaker 1: the episode we did about the border militia community and

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Speaker 1: its growth in history, nothing like that. Occurred. I believe you.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting also for a have we seen a right

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Speaker 1: wing Have we seen like a Russia Limpbob Ben Shapiro type?

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Speaker 1: We have to I'm gonna guess we are, although I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting if we don't. If there's no

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Speaker 1: like actual like Ben Shapiro media personality stand in in

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Speaker 1: this book, I think that's going to be really interesting

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Speaker 1: because it might suggest to me that Ben Shapiro um

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Speaker 1: kind of hates himself and what he does and wishes

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Speaker 1: he'd joined the military, but he doesn't think he was

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Speaker 1: big enough. Yeah, short enough to be a terrorist, not

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Speaker 1: tall enough to be Ben. Yeah, we gotta dig more

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Speaker 1: into these terrorists next. Maybe we'll start the next one

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Speaker 1: with that, But for now, I need ye all to

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Speaker 1: plug your plug doubles. Cool. Yeah, check out our show

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Speaker 1: and things related to that. And I'm on Twitter Dr

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Speaker 1: Mr Cody and Katie's on Twitter at Katie. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at I right, okay. Also, we're

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Speaker 1: doing helping with a fundraiser to provide diapers to poor

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Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for that. Uh So again, times are

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Speaker 1: sucked up. People like Ben Shapiro have more influence than

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Speaker 1: they should ever have had, which is none. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: we can do things like make sure a few hundred

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Speaker 1: women without much money don't have to worry about diapers

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at I right, okay, so you can all

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Speaker 1: go by shirt they exist. Yeah, and there's a podcast

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Speaker 1: called The Women's War. It's upbeat. You should listen to

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Speaker 1: it if you want to know how things could be

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Speaker 1: better in a world where people like Ben Shapiro don't

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Speaker 1: have influence. All right, that's the episode What a World

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