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Speaker 1: The w NBA, rob G, can you let us know

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Speaker 1: what happened over the weekend the NBA, the w NBA

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Speaker 1: All Star Game that came out with T shirts on

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Speaker 1: and you know they claim they're ready to do whatever

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Speaker 1: is necessary. They're gonna walk out and they want more

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Speaker 1: money and all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Rob G.

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Speaker 4: That's right ahead of the w NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: Rob I know you never missed the BBNBA All.

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Speaker 3: Star You know I never met was that this weekend?

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Speaker 3: That was this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Rob I want you to know the real quick, rob

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Speaker 1: G is a comedy sympathize.

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Speaker 4: We're gonahead Robins, all right, we gotta we gotta make

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Speaker 4: sure we had stage first before the All Star Game,

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Speaker 4: all right. Two days before that, forty players met with

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Speaker 4: the league offices in their latest round of their CBA negotiations.

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Speaker 4: All right, now, According to multiple reports, the players did

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Speaker 4: not think that the meeting was very productive. They didn't

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Speaker 4: think that it was helpful. They were very upset about

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Speaker 4: what happened during that meeting. So ahead of the All

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Speaker 4: Star Game, which is for a lot of them, the

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Speaker 4: biggest night of the year, players on both sides, including

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Speaker 4: Kaitlin Clark, wore black shirts during warmups that read pay us.

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Speaker 3: What you owe us.

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Speaker 1: Originally I thought it well filled queens on it, but

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Speaker 1: how muche last it?

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Speaker 3: All right? So this is where it got interesting, right.

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Speaker 1: You saw the shirts, you know the w W edy

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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, no onty lost but money for thirty years?

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Speaker 3: What do you want?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 5: So this is where they get conversation. You get government

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Speaker 5: cheese at a ball, Go ahead, stop it. Government cheese

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Speaker 5: was good for real cheese.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the only time is good.

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Speaker 5: No, this is where it gets complicated, right because the

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Speaker 5: WNBA hasn't made a profit in a general sense of

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Speaker 5: making profits for the last for all these years, and

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Speaker 5: it's averaging since it started around ten million dollars deficit

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Speaker 5: each each year.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's operating on.

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Speaker 5: But when you start to dive deeper into it more

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Speaker 5: so than just the simple math, is where it gets complicated.

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Speaker 5: I think the average person, especially on x Instagram threads

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Speaker 5: in each site, isn't doing the deep dive. So WNBA

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Speaker 5: players are simply saying this, Rob, We are saying most

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Speaker 5: leagues in the NBA, NHL, NBA, NFL, they're making around

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Speaker 5: fifty percent of the revenue that comes in fifty percent.

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Speaker 5: The WNBA is only making how much you think, thirty, no, twenty, no, ten, no,

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Speaker 5: nine percent. So they're saying, hey, we're only making nine percent,

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Speaker 5: our counterparts are making fifty percent of the revenue driven.

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Speaker 5: And then somebody would say, well what revenue and what's

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Speaker 5: going on? Well, certain good things have happened in favorable

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Speaker 5: for the league, which was gonna be in turn favorable

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Speaker 5: for the players who are essentially the product. The league

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Speaker 5: has secured a new lucrative two point two billion dollar

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Speaker 5: which is expected to significantly increase revenue. So if you

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Speaker 5: don't stand on it now, Rob, you know this from

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Speaker 5: business standpoint, how am I gonna get it? If I

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Speaker 5: just go with the flow, all right, give me nine

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Speaker 5: that two point two billion. But if I say, hey,

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Speaker 5: can take it, that's to me what simply, that's just

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Speaker 5: simple good business man. Also, the attendance is up twenty

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Speaker 5: six percent. You and I have talked about that, twenty

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Speaker 5: three percent. Viewership is up. And also merchandise, which is

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Speaker 5: forty percent, nearly half, nearly fifty percent. So simply, what

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Speaker 5: they're doing is saying, hey, if there is money to

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Speaker 3: So that goes to ownership. That's split by ownership. That's right.

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Speaker 3: That the players don't get that right, But all of

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Speaker 3: that doesn't go into a pot. That's what owners get.

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Speaker 1: That's part of why owners they get the the expansion fee,

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Speaker 1: because you're letting somebody in on your right.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, if you're taking this information, you're

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Speaker 5: saying nobody's investing in, not thinking they're going to potentially

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Speaker 5: make money. Right, You're not allowing new leagues. A new

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Speaker 5: franchise has come without the idea of we're going to

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Speaker 5: simply them saying we want more of what is to come.

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Speaker 5: What is being had two point two billion in the

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Speaker 5: attendance is up. We want more, and I think that's fair.

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Speaker 5: And the thing about a protest is it's not comfortable.

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Speaker 5: Usually people don't like it. You don't like the timing

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Speaker 5: of I wish you did it differently, y T shirts,

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Speaker 5: why not this that, whatever you pick at George Floyd

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Speaker 5: gonna like when you protest, you'reneeling in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 5: not the time, it's not the place. So generally a

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Speaker 5: protest is to make you uncomfortable, to draw conversation, to have,

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Speaker 5: you know, some type of dialogue about these things, and

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Speaker 5: that's what they did. So they gotta find a way

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Speaker 5: continue to grow the league, continue to allow the lead

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Speaker 5: to become make money and become profitable. But I'm not

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Speaker 5: mad at somebody trying to say, hey, if more money

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Speaker 5: I think that's you. I would, I mean, I have

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Speaker 5: to speak for myself. I would advocate for myself as well.

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Speaker 5: I totally disagree. And I dare the WNBA players. I

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Speaker 5: dare you walk out. I dare you to walk out.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead and walk out.

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Speaker 1: I double dare you, cause despite Caitlin Clark, despite all

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Speaker 3: Million dollars this past year. There was no bonanza.

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Speaker 1: She's out her. If you're losing money at our height,

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Speaker 1: how in the world going forward?

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Speaker 3: It ain't going automatically.

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Speaker 1: You just had the biggest bump and you still lost

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I dare the union to walk out. I dare you players,

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Speaker 3: because it ain't gonna be pretty. You can't collect money

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Speaker 1: This ain't some new league that started and you understand

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Speaker 1: it gonna take a little while and make money. They

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Speaker 1: were subsidized by the NBA. I know firstthand in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want the shock the commissioner. They begged them please.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 1: Personally that when they were winning no championships, they couldn't

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Speaker 1: saying is you got to crawl before you walk. And

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Speaker 1: I understand wanting more, but are you accounting for the

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Speaker 1: thirty years of red ink that under normal circumstances you

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Speaker 1: would not have had a league these up, these football

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Speaker 1: leagues that keep starting up, usf ulfl all these things.

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Speaker 3: Everybody love.

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Speaker 1: All I'm over told is everybody loves football, right, why

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Speaker 1: don't those leagues last? You know? Mean those leagues have

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Speaker 1: folded because they don't sell They don't sell tickets. The

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Speaker 1: TV numbers aren't good enough. And you could say whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. Kaylin Clark when she's not playing, the ratings

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Speaker 1: went down fifty five percent. Those are facts, not feelings.

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Speaker 1: When she wasn't gonna announce that she wasn't gonna play

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Speaker 1: the WNBA, the tickets dropped off the face of the earth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're not entitled to money, but it's

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Speaker 1: based off of what you bring in Devin Booker's making

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Speaker 1: gonna make seventy five million dollars a year, not because

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Speaker 1: revenue that is brought in, right and over time, that

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Speaker 1: can happen. But come on, man, this is way too premature.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm running a w NBA or I'm the

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Speaker 1: and now we're gonna there's still plenty of buildings where

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Speaker 3: And then that's my point. I hear you twisted. Don't

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Speaker 3: get it twisted. I double dare them to walk out

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Speaker 3: because you won't have a league.

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Speaker 5: There's no guarantir there's no guarantee the league will sustain

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Speaker 5: another five, ten, twenty years like that. No business, I

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Speaker 5: don't care the model. They can be a restaurant, it

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Speaker 5: could be a movie theater, it doesn't matter, is guaranteed

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Speaker 5: to succeed. That's just business, one on one. No business

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Speaker 5: is guaranteed to succeed. That's why I brought up the

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Speaker 5: football all. We only won NFL.

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Speaker 3: They've been in an NFL. That's all they won. And

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: But when you go back to the only thing if again,

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Speaker 5: if you're looking at this, if you're the WNBA, who's

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Speaker 5: seeing this growth, when you look at the numbers, and

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Speaker 5: they're also saying, all right, it took sports leagues decades

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Speaker 5: to get viable as well, because when you look at

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Speaker 3: Thirty years. Yes, if you look at it, they took.

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Speaker 1: Who owned the WNBA? Was that outside or did the

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Speaker 5: It's what I'm saying. The NBA was its own entity. Right, Wait, right,

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Speaker 5: but I'm talking about the NBA. I'm saying the NBA

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Speaker 5: didn't make money. They lost thirteen million dollars in nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighty that's the year Magic comes in, Berg comes in

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Speaker 5: and then things take off and they changed.

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Speaker 3: That was forty years of the NBA.

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Speaker 5: They still lost ten thirteen million dollars, which if you

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Speaker 5: did the math into twenty twenty five, that'd be forty

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Speaker 5: eight million dollars. So all I'm saying is it takes

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Speaker 1: It is weink what it's the same you think during

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Speaker 1: that until never No, no, no, no, no no, I'm

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Speaker 1: just money. Okay, I'm saying, do you think because I

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Speaker 1: they didn't have four thousand people, they didn't have five

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Speaker 1: thousand like the league had a up and down period.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. That was a down period

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Speaker 1: before birded Magic. Yes, but there was some glory times before.

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Speaker 1: But they were making like that. No, but they were considering.

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Speaker 1: Teams were considering how to get out of it, how

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Speaker 1: to get out of business. How they were tired of

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Speaker 1: those teams. They weren't making money. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that the WN be able to ever be the NBA.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying businesses, no, businesses take time.

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Speaker 5: Lost so many business that we now love, we don't

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Speaker 5: know the history that it took him twenty thirty forty

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Speaker 5: years to become profitable. That's why people keep investing in

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Speaker 5: these business Even Amazon, it took him a decade to

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Speaker 5: have a profitable year. It just takes time, is all

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I understand why the players, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It took the thirty years.

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Speaker 5: They have their Messiah and they still lost four. Now

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Speaker 1: But I am curious for all the people who always

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Speaker 1: tell us President Trump is threatening the commanders, and I

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Speaker 4: In an effort to MIGA, this is a real quote, Mega,

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Speaker 3: President doctor threw up in my mouth. This was real thing.

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Speaker 4: He tweeted out or didn't weet, but on truth Social

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna get them because it's the same people

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Speaker 5: beat them up, Stick to sports, Stick to sports. When

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Speaker 1: Really, somebody's gonna feel good so that they could use

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked and robbed. I don't know what the history

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Speaker 5: But generally it's gonna come down to economics very much

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Speaker 5: us usually the instance what it is. But yeah, this

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Speaker 5: is to me, this is oftentimes when you're trying to

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Speaker 5: play to a contingency and trying to let them hear

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Speaker 5: what they want to hear, so they continue to vote

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Speaker 5: a certain way, continue to feel a certain way, because

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Speaker 5: it shouldn't matter that much.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't. What am I missing? What What am I missing?

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Speaker 3: Rob G? I'm asking you what am I missing? Really?

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Speaker 1: I thought that was put to bed, Like do really

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Speaker 1: are people still up and arms? Got their panties in

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Speaker 1: a bunch? I'm asking you because I think we're on

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Speaker 1: the same I don't get it. I don't, I don't

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Speaker 1: is it really an issue. They've already changed the names

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Speaker 1: of everything in the uniform. We call them the Cleveland Guardians.

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Speaker 1: I'm over it.

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Speaker 3: Already, right. It took a couple of years for nobody

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Speaker 3: stop going this is the low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say, because you guysn't want to say it

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Speaker 4: of our president who is rapidly losing support from people,

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Speaker 4: because there are very public celebrities, comedians, athletes, whoever, who

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Speaker 4: were pro Trump getting up to the election and have

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Speaker 4: now come out and said everything that I wanted him

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Speaker 4: to do, he has let me down on I didn't

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 3: I want him to show the fting filess not doing.

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Speaker 3: Now think that that was the tipping point for it.

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Speaker 3: That was a big one. That was a big tip.

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Speaker 4: He said, I'm anti war. Now we're going back to

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Speaker 4: warlike with situations like this. So he in his mind,

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Speaker 4: what's something I can do that's going to rally a

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Speaker 4: group of people that's gonna get them on my side.

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Speaker 4: Most of the people who are gonna respond to this

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Speaker 4: kind of conversation don't actually care about the Washington Football.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, and that's the and that's why

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Speaker 5: I keep saying, it's the overarching theme. If things are

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Speaker 5: going to progressive, things are going to exactly, this is

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Speaker 5: just a sign of you, meaning the President, taking things back. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I support you taking things back, because the the commanders,

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Speaker 5: the guardians are just the thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care about them.

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Speaker 5: As ROBERSI, he said, I just need you to take

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Speaker 5: things back so I can say we're heading back to

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Speaker 5: when things were.

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Speaker 3: Hence, make America gradiot. Previous. Previous is often the thing,

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Speaker 3: and so what.

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Speaker 4: It's done is it's loud provocateurs and people who make

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Speaker 4: a lot of money dealing in this sort of thing

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Speaker 4: to go from as recently as whenever Colin Kaepernor was

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Speaker 4: a ten, ten years ago, years ago, whatever. It stick

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Speaker 4: to sports. I don't want this on my television. I

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Speaker 4: want sports. I want to watch football. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to exactly. I don't need to see end racism in

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Speaker 4: the end zone, things like that. You know, now, those

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Speaker 4: same people are going on their social media account saying

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Speaker 4: I put up a poll, and my audience is saying

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Speaker 4: that they want to see redskins backup so the sports

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Speaker 4: exact exactly.

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Speaker 1: I've always said this and people look at me and

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Speaker 1: I'm not being insensitive or anything like the whole thing

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Speaker 1: about sports.

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Speaker 3: You already want to see sports. Why do we have

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Speaker 3: military people?

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, like they always say, like bringing out people,

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Speaker 1: why do we have breast cancer awareness?

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if it's just sports, why do we

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Speaker 3: have these other things. I didn't go there. I went

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Speaker 3: there to watch football. I'm not interested in all this

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Speaker 3: other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is what I here unless it's something that

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Speaker 1: bothers you exactly.

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Speaker 5: That triggers you. Now, you only wanted to be football.

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Speaker 5: Hypocrisy of the military you brought up was that they

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Speaker 5: were being paid. That wasn't not the kindness of the NFL.

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Speaker 5: They paid, they paid, Hey can we do this moment

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Speaker 5: where we're gonna put sergeant Johnny do is back our money?

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Speaker 1: Our money came that that we're gonna honor. And then

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Speaker 1: they had the teams were getting checks from the federal

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Speaker 1: checks to.

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Speaker 5: Do these essential advertisement for the military. And then we

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Speaker 5: would get Tierry I because you know, it is a

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Speaker 5: moment that Sergeant such and such is back with his

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Speaker 5: united with his kids, and it's a beautiful thing and

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Speaker 5: they're playing on your heartstrings, not knowing they got a

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Speaker 5: check for that.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: There's some news that Cam on his fourth and one podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 5: he had some things to say about a particular quarterback

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Speaker 5: who some similar traits in in some instances.

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Speaker 3: And here's what you have to say. Rob.

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Speaker 6: Now, I know everybody's gonna get mad at this Cam

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Speaker 6: hating Jalen Hurts. It's hard for me to grade Jalen

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Speaker 6: Hurts with the talent that he has around him. Jalen

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Speaker 6: Hurts is a great quarterback, but if we're talking about

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Speaker 6: what they bring to the table holistically, it's hard to

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Speaker 6: judge what Jalen Hurts can do when you're throwing to

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Speaker 6: a guy like a j Brown, Davonte Smith. We have

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Speaker 6: tight end skill set, you have a dominant defense, the

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Speaker 6: best running back in the game. Download Madden and see

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Speaker 6: how many Stars is on the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Kelvin, here's my issue with why it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to listen to a lot of these guys listens, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't get these podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Band that is your and I'll run for president and

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get athletes podcast band go for me.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that they can't be they have skin

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Speaker 1: in the game. He can't give you a fair assessment

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. He can't because people question him his Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl when he went right and how poorly he played. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he has great players around him. Everybody who wins has

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Speaker 1: great players.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 1: Why is Jalen Hurts any different? Tell me another team

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Speaker 1: where everybody was terrible except for one.

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Speaker 3: Guy and they won.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. It's even like when they bring up

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Speaker 1: to Scottie Pippen. Of course he was good, Michael. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wins by themselves. So all of a sudden, you're saying,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, did he tell you that he went to

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls he didn't get to and he bawled

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Speaker 1: out into one that he lost, and then this one

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be Saquon Barkley's right super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: This is about Saquon Barkley. No, it wasn't. It was

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Speaker 3: about Jalen Hurts his two super Bowls. Can I give you.

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Speaker 3: The numbers.

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Speaker 1: Average three hundred and thirty five yards, seventy three percent completions,

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, two turnovers, with a one oh nine passer rating. Okay,

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Speaker 1: stop acting like he didn't do his part as quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was a Super Bowl MVP for a reason. What

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Speaker 1: does Saquon have? Rob G forty yards? Fifty yard?

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 1: And he was a big stud the whole year, right,

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Speaker 1: they said, the chief said, we're going to stop Saquon

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Speaker 1: and make Jalen Hurts beat us. And guess what, he

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Speaker 1: beat you. These athletes gotta stop it. They just they

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Speaker 1: can't be fair and honest.

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Speaker 3: And all they do is talk.

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Speaker 1: About the writers and the brawl. You guys, you're all jealous.

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Speaker 1: You guys are jealous. And then the idea, Rob G,

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Speaker 1: can you play that again?

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Speaker 3: Alice? Play that again? I just want to do just

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Speaker 3: in the beginning, this at the beginning, listen to what

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Speaker 3: he says, just to start it right here.

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Speaker 6: Now, know everybody's gonna get mad at this, cam hat Jaylor.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right there, Huh, if you have to preface it,

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Speaker 1: you already know that the take is not good. Why

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Speaker 1: are you prefacing it by saying, oh, I know people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be mad. Yes, they are mad.

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Speaker 3: Because the guy with the Super Bowl MVP, he balled out.

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Speaker 1: The running game was stopped and they won and kick

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's butt to win the Super Bowl. Give Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts his credit and stop all this nonsense. These guys

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Speaker 1: are terrible. Cam is terrible to do this, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes the worst is when somebody realizes they

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Speaker 5: had wasted talent, and I think Cam Newton sometimes deals

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Speaker 5: with that he wasted some of the gods gift and

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Speaker 5: talent that he had. He didn't get more out of that. Now,

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Speaker 5: let's just dive a little deeper into the Jalen Hurts thing.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is doing exactly what Jalen Hurts is supposed

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Speaker 5: to do. First of all, he won a bunch in college.

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Speaker 5: Then he gets to the NFL and all he's pretty

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Speaker 5: much do is win. He's gotten to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: he lost one, but he outplayed the number one quarterback

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, got to another Super Bowl, outplayed who the

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Speaker 5: number one quarterback in Patrick Mahomes. Again, all he's known

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Speaker 5: is being in the postseason. So Jalen Hurts has done

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Speaker 5: exactly what he is supposed to do. We have a

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Speaker 5: play that they tried to outlaw in the NFL because

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Speaker 5: he runs it, he and his team runs it. Everybody

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Speaker 5: has a chance to run it, Rob, but for whatever reasons,

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Speaker 5: he and his team run the best, and now it's

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Speaker 5: an issue we should try to find a way to

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Speaker 5: outlaw it. And they didn't agree on it during the

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Speaker 5: meetings with the owners. However, my point is that's when

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Speaker 5: you know you're good. You got something they trying to outlaw,

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Speaker 5: like Shaq being in the paintle. We got to come

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Speaker 5: up with three seconds in the key or you can't

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Speaker 5: have his own defense and you can't do this. And

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Speaker 5: because you're that dominant as something Jalen Hurts has been

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Speaker 5: exactly what the Philadelphia seventies Philadelphia Eagles need. And what

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Speaker 5: drives me crazy about this is you just mentioned it.

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Speaker 5: If I go through some of these teams Rob who

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Speaker 5: have won, look at the teams John Elway, he had

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Speaker 5: Terrell Davis in the Hall of Fame. He had a

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Speaker 5: really good receiver at mccaffre. He had Rod Smith who

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Speaker 5: was really good receiver, as Shannon Sharp was All of Famer,

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Speaker 5: and then he had a bunch of.

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Speaker 3: And really good guys on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: We're not gonna talk about Patrick mahomes at when Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 5: who if he keeps going, is gonna be Hall of famers.

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Speaker 3: He got Kelsey was a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: He's he's got guys in the offensive linings at defense,

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Speaker 5: nobody wins by themselves.

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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning, which iteration of Peyton Manning? Do you want

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Speaker 3: to go?

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Speaker 5: Do you want the Marvin Harrison and Reggie and Reggie

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Speaker 5: Wayne with Stokely Run at the middle and Dallas Clark

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Speaker 5: or you want Edred James in the backfield?

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Speaker 3: You want that version level?

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Speaker 1: You want to look at that defense, for that defense,

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Speaker 1: for the Broadcup that won a Super Bowl for him.

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Speaker 5: Unloaded, insane defense. And so my point is you need

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Speaker 5: if you want to go, Let's say go to another sport.

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Speaker 5: Magic Johnson walks right into the NBA with who Kareem

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Speaker 5: That's who you walk into the You're ushered into the

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Speaker 5: NBA with Cap Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And now you get

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Speaker 5: to have Worthy a couple of years later they would

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Speaker 5: draft him. You've got Byron Scott in order to win.

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Speaker 5: It takes a full franchise front office GMS coaches quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: in the NFL, rosters, defense and an ident and this

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Speaker 5: is what we do.

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Speaker 3: We do well.

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Speaker 5: It's just so you're mad at him for having that,

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Speaker 5: and then he does what I'd rather you say, Man,

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Speaker 5: I love what he's doing. I think he's talented. There's

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Speaker 5: still maybe some those things to be left desired byet.

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Speaker 3: If you say I'm fine and then you say this, Shoot,

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Speaker 3: i'ma be honest.

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Speaker 5: I see some similar skill sets and I wish I

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Speaker 5: had a team that was as good. I wish I

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Speaker 5: had a front line offensive line that was as good.

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Speaker 5: I'd be okay with that. I'd be okay with that.

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Speaker 5: But to act as if he's not doing exactly what

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Speaker 5: he is supposed to be doing. And another example would

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Speaker 5: be Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw did exactly what he's supposed

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Speaker 5: to do with those Pittsburgh Steeler team, right.

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Speaker 3: His numbers weren't great as the greatest the receivers.

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Speaker 5: He had Frank Coherrison in the back, and he had

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Speaker 5: a defense and I'm gonna let him do what they

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Speaker 5: do and cook and eat. And at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, we judge quarterbacks on what wins, and Jalen Hurst,

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Speaker 5: to his credit, has done that. Nobody's saying he's the

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Speaker 5: best arm or the best quarterback right now, but he

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Speaker 5: absolutely does what's expecting to him, which is a win.

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Speaker 5: And I think Cam knows he left for a lot

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Speaker 5: of still to be desired, and I think he's upset

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Speaker 5: with himself about that