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Speaker 1: this interview with Benny the Butcher, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: rappers in the world. Good homie of mine, solid dude.
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Speaker 1: Boutlet CAV Show, my guy Benny the Butcher. Hey man,
Speaker 1: this is These are a third time appearance on the
Speaker 1: podcast Alumni Alumni Alumni Gang Gang Gang hey Man, Plugs,
Speaker 1: I met too is here? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. Today
Speaker 1: this is I think a lot of people, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they assume that this is something that you just maybe
Speaker 1: started working on after burden approof, but this is something
Speaker 1: you've been had tucked right exactly exactly this has been done,
Speaker 1: like the same time Burden the proof been done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I remember we were talking and You're like, I
Speaker 1: already got everything lined up, Like everything's already done. This
Speaker 1: is coming, This is coming, this is coming exactly. What
Speaker 1: about the features on it? Were those like features you
Speaker 1: got recently or was that something that they've been tucked
Speaker 1: as well? I all got I've been got all of
Speaker 1: them joints, you know what I'm saying, especially the change joint,
Speaker 1: the the French, the gym. I've been had all those.
Speaker 1: I've been ready. How'd you get the chink shit? Though? Alright,
Speaker 1: p I got the Chinks like this? Uh, this an
Speaker 1: interesting story. Like ten years ago, French, my ten and Chinks.
Speaker 1: They was in Buffalo and I've been to like a
Speaker 1: local rapper trying to do my ship. I paid, I
Speaker 1: paid French to come to the studio. Yeah we did.
Speaker 1: We did a record and Chinks was with them. Cheeks
Speaker 1: was like, yo, let me let me get on this record. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm like, go ahead, he said. I I spit it
Speaker 1: to you before I got some ship. I'm like, go ahead, ship.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He just he see French, the nigga getting paid for it,
Speaker 1: but he looked at it as an opportunity, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I learned from that. That's how
Speaker 1: I got on a Royster five nine records. He in
Speaker 1: the studio writing and I'm just writing to it because
Speaker 1: I learned that shit from Chinks that night. But I
Speaker 1: told that to uh well DJ Sha Restipiche. He told
Speaker 1: that the Harry. Harry was like, oh, no shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying it, And you know what, that's
Speaker 1: damn there. You know they camp, you know, yeah, French
Speaker 1: and Harry fro Go go together like you know Chinks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The boys cooke boy. So
Speaker 1: he thought it'd be interested to do that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: good idea. So that was a Chink's vocals that Harry
Speaker 1: had had. Yeah, Harry had that locked away somewhere. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He had that tuck. It's the
Speaker 1: perfect time. I'm happy I got to put him on there.
Speaker 1: It's crazy you say that, so because you I know,
Speaker 1: when I'm in the studio, right and there's always like
Speaker 1: the young MC who might not be supposed to be
Speaker 1: hopping on the on the joint that's playing, but they
Speaker 1: writing something just in cases like yo, I got something
Speaker 1: to this, let me get in there. That's how I do.
Speaker 1: I do that. I'm writing every beat if I'm in
Speaker 1: the studio, especially if I can't get on the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: If I know I'm not poor, I'm still gonna write.
Speaker 1: So that's how you ended up on which voice record
Speaker 1: or the one? I uh, the one on ten to
Speaker 1: talk three? Oh shit? So that's I mean that that
Speaker 1: was your record? Yeah, that he gave it to me.
Speaker 1: He gave it to me because he was doing the record.
Speaker 1: I was just sitting there. He seen me mumble, he said,
Speaker 1: you got something for this. I'm like, yes, I do,
Speaker 1: And I went did the record and end up letting
Speaker 1: have a record for the album. How are you? I
Speaker 1: haven't seen you since obviously the shooting man, and you
Speaker 1: know you're walking around without crutches. How are you feeling.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Just getting my ship back,
Speaker 1: getting the strength back of my ship, like in my
Speaker 1: calf and my foot and everything. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: an injury like that take time, you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the hill back from but I'm good when that happened.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was it a park a
Speaker 1: lot of Walmart or something? Or in Texas? Was it
Speaker 1: Houston or Dallas? Yeah? Like what was this? Like? What?
Speaker 1: Like like I feel like we always talk about obviously everything.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you know what I mean? It was?
Speaker 1: It was it was a crazy It was some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: But some niggas got up on me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You know, just regular ship? Is it hard
Speaker 1: because you you you move around a lot? Is it
Speaker 1: like something like that? Does it kind of does it
Speaker 1: make you hesitant to be outside as much? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you could you could even get
Speaker 1: some like you know, ps PSD from some ship. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a fact and yeah a little bit. But what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is not as much as not more
Speaker 1: than anything else I haven't been through. You've been like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to sit my eyes down. Ship like that.
Speaker 1: For so, it's just more ship like that. You see.
Speaker 1: You see how I'm moving around right now. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna let that ship take over my life. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move smart though, you know. Yeah, because I had
Speaker 1: that conversation with Conway because you know, he told me
Speaker 1: how how I think it was in Atlanta or something somewhere.
Speaker 1: You guys are out on the road and he got
Speaker 1: caught slipping and he was like, Yo, man, that shit happened,
Speaker 1: And it kind of made me re kind of evaluate,
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, when I'm around rap niggas
Speaker 1: is targets. We targets, you know what I'm saying, Especially
Speaker 1: during a pandemics hungry I don't even think it's no
Speaker 1: pandemic shit. I think it's a clout thing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think it's a clout thing, you know,
Speaker 1: because ship it's a rapper thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It ain't no like an athlete thing. It ain't no
Speaker 1: you know, athletes get gotten ship like that. You know,
Speaker 1: niggas love to press up on rappers either be the
Speaker 1: same niggas who be in our face. Though well, we
Speaker 1: also hear about it when it happens to a rapper.
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever hear about it when it
Speaker 1: happens a lot. I mean, yeah, I mean and then
Speaker 1: also too, like it's got to make you very very
Speaker 1: careful about like posting where you're at y'all wasn't doing
Speaker 1: no ship like that anyway. You know, some people are
Speaker 1: reckless bro the studio, you know what, because they don't
Speaker 1: you know, they was probably thinking like me in the
Speaker 1: sense you know what I'm saying, Uh, you don't you know,
Speaker 1: you know you you you you taking you taking certain precautions,
Speaker 1: but you got to take every precaution, you know. Man,
Speaker 1: that type of ship. That's some real ship, man, that's real.
Speaker 1: Is it hard to have a you know, the first
Speaker 1: Plugs I Met was a classic. It was uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that that was really I think Tanna Talk
Speaker 1: three was like the project that really kind of put
Speaker 1: you on people's radars. But I think Plugs I Met
Speaker 1: was like the the project that really kind of changed
Speaker 1: your life. Would you agree? Yeah? Yeah? Hell is it
Speaker 1: intimidating or hard to follow up and do a sequel
Speaker 1: to something that's so like flawed, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, It's almost like it when Na's just stillmatic,
Speaker 1: you know, And to be honest with you, yes, it is,
Speaker 1: but at the same time as not, because you just
Speaker 1: got to have a confidence in yourself. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you Tanna Talk three in twenty eighteen, Yep, Uh Plugs
Speaker 1: I Met one twenty nineteen, Burden of Proof twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So this is just what I do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying here exactly? You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: Plugs I Met two nine, It's just I put the
Speaker 1: confidence in myself and you can't you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The same thing. That's just like an NBA player going
Speaker 1: out there like damn, I he ain't think about it,
Speaker 1: he gonna miss the shot. He trying to take the shot.
Speaker 1: So I just got the confidence in myself. So I'm
Speaker 1: not and I'm really not competing against myself because that
Speaker 1: will wreck my brain trying to live up to Tanner
Speaker 1: Talk three and or live up to the old projects.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just doing me, getting better, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No Griselda features on this. You know
Speaker 1: what I always look forward to when I when I
Speaker 1: listen to anyone of y'all's projects is there's always that
Speaker 1: posse cut right right, It's like First three, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? There was not that on this project?
Speaker 1: Was that done on purpose? Like? Like what was it? Like?
Speaker 1: Why no? Why no Conway or Gun on the album?
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, like I'm happy you asked
Speaker 1: me that because people be thinking of some weird shit.
Speaker 1: It's like niggas just be doing what they be doing.
Speaker 1: He west be over here living his life. He just
Speaker 1: had a baby. And to be honest with you, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest, like I don't
Speaker 1: even be I don't look at them niggas as like
Speaker 1: rappers like them. Niggas is my big cousin, so right
Speaker 1: part of me don't even be want to bother them niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't think about it
Speaker 1: from the fan point of view, like we need this
Speaker 1: on here because guess what, You're gonna get more Bennie
Speaker 1: and Conway and that's just another chapter. And I might
Speaker 1: and I might subconsciously sometimes we might even hold those
Speaker 1: back because we know the people waiting. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, We're gonna we're gonna flood them ships on.
Speaker 1: I had Conway on ten to talk three two three times.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, were gonna flood that shit
Speaker 1: next time. Or we're talking about doing a joint record together,
Speaker 1: but it's really that it's just really him and a
Speaker 1: mister working on his album. I was working on Burton
Speaker 1: to prove he working on crazy shit, and we just
Speaker 1: knocking records off. Well, you know how fans are, They're
Speaker 1: gonna come to their own conclusions. There's already been like
Speaker 1: rumors that you guys are kind of becoming distant and
Speaker 1: this the thing is like, I think what's happening is
Speaker 1: what should be happening right, Like you should be popping
Speaker 1: off BSF shout out to Conway. He's got drum work
Speaker 1: music exactly, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, just
Speaker 1: because you guys are evolving and and starting your own
Speaker 1: brands doesn't mean that it's like any sort of love
Speaker 1: lost or it ain't still Griselda, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know what people be thinking. It's because motherfucker's
Speaker 1: be bored. Bro. They they rather push, but they're bored
Speaker 1: there there. Yo, it'd be so crazy that people people
Speaker 1: from Buffalo will call me, but like, Yo, man, I
Speaker 1: read that shit you and Conway, I'm like what And
Speaker 1: guess what, Me and Conway never even speak about that shit.
Speaker 1: We never even talked about that shit because for what
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it'd be crazy. I
Speaker 1: think we're just so used as as as rap fans.
Speaker 1: We're so used to seeing our favorite rap like clicks
Speaker 1: have some sort of weird falling out. But y'all are family,
Speaker 1: family and and erst And I'm gonna say this, Griselda
Speaker 1: is Griselda Records. We've never been a group people. We're
Speaker 1: not a group. We're not a group, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. People think we are group. There was
Speaker 1: a one Griselda album that was more like I look
Speaker 1: at it like a compilation exactly. That's really what it was,
Speaker 1: you feel I'm saying. So, you know, even though y'all
Speaker 1: got the Best Group of the Year BT nomination, Fire Fire,
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all did get that. So at a point
Speaker 1: it's like, maybe we are a group, but you knew,
Speaker 1: you knew, you knew, Cam, Jim and Santana wasn't a group.
Speaker 1: Theyd Dips, you understood that they were in a group.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with us. We're not a group
Speaker 1: with the gang though we the homies, we family, but
Speaker 1: we're not a group. So and I know people feel
Speaker 1: like when y'all together, y'all at your best. We know
Speaker 1: all of that, but you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: nothing or they're just niggas just working on their own ship,
Speaker 1: doing their own thing. Amen, and BSF had a crazy year.
Speaker 1: I know you guys are working on you guys put
Speaker 1: out the gangster grill ship. Shout out to Heim Shots
Speaker 1: Ricky Hyde. Uh, but there's actually I just got played
Speaker 1: some shots to Harlow. We played me some ship. You
Speaker 1: guys got a BSF album coming, Yes, sir, how many records?
Speaker 1: And is that? Uh, it's like it's give a take
Speaker 1: because we got records, but not to say that we're
Speaker 1: keeping everything because I'm gonna make sure that this project
Speaker 1: is is driven uh in a certain direction, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make sure it's just all crazy just and know
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I'm gonna make sure it's balanced and everything,
Speaker 1: not saying that the last one wasn't. But I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm going back in the trenches doing that
Speaker 1: with this album. I was standing with you and Fred
Speaker 1: at the Grammy party last week? Was it? What was that?
Speaker 1: Was it over the weekend? Like last week it was
Speaker 1: Sunday was Sunday and uh? Amen, Yeah, tossing around doing
Speaker 1: the album and you guys were like, let's do it
Speaker 1: and then Gazi was sitting right there and he's like,
Speaker 1: let's go. It looks like it happen. And I was like, Yo, guys,
Speaker 1: let's go. I think Freddy gives Benny the butcher. Y'all
Speaker 1: gotta do the EP. I feel like, between you two
Speaker 1: and Conway, you guys are the hardest rappers on the
Speaker 1: planet at the moment. It's only natural that you and
Speaker 1: you and Fred have such a crazy fucking chemistry as
Speaker 1: we do. Yes, we do. I feel like it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. I feel like it's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have officially talked about it like
Speaker 1: several times, several times, but that was the best talk
Speaker 1: right there, you're saying you seen the best one. That
Speaker 1: felt like that felt like it was about to happen tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Fred was saw stuff. He was in that pink suit,
Speaker 1: he was drunk a ship, he was dancing at Nelly bro.
Speaker 1: He was dancing at Nelly Freddy King, Man, that's Freddy King. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so that's something we might be able to look
Speaker 1: forward to. Man. I hope, So, I hope. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go tap back in about that. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna see. That'd be crazy. I think if you
Speaker 1: guys do that, you gotta do. You gotta work with
Speaker 1: one producer on it. I don't know who it is
Speaker 1: or Darrennger. We picked the Alchemist that now even we
Speaker 1: even picked producers that name Alchemist Alchemist Freddy Benny album EP.
Speaker 1: I just need six joints, that's all. Even I'll take
Speaker 1: four if I'm keeping it a butt. Hey, I say
Speaker 1: about eight A to be nice, eight A to be nice?
Speaker 1: He skits eleven twelve track list. You're you're, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know one of the greats right now? Who like
Speaker 1: if anyone that you've gotten on a record with where
Speaker 1: you feel like I wouldn't say the word intimidated, but
Speaker 1: you feel like the pressure's on. I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 1: really have my ship together for what I'm like you
Speaker 1: for this record. Mm hmm, I would say, mm hmm,
Speaker 1: Black Thought, Royce de five nine ye Banks of course,
Speaker 1: don Q push I gotta be on that list, yeah, push,
Speaker 1: push push. I'm going through the names. I could say
Speaker 1: a lot of names. That's what you know. These other
Speaker 1: niggas going front like you know, I mean Conway thirty
Speaker 1: eight Spech like I know, I know, I'll funk with
Speaker 1: the spinners. Man, I know niggas is coming with they shit.
Speaker 1: But they would say the same about me them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's what it's all about,
Speaker 1: is keeping yourself in that type of company. Still shopping still,
Speaker 1: that's some real shit. You've been asked about me and
Speaker 1: you have talked about these mythological Drake songs for a while.
Speaker 1: I actually heard one today. So you played me one
Speaker 1: of the Drake records today? I did. Drake just posted
Speaker 1: your ship on his Instagram fire he posted on the
Speaker 1: story of the page. I don't know, but he posted it.
Speaker 1: He posted the album and uh shit, Lebron just Lebron
Speaker 1: just gave you some love on Twitter. He said you're
Speaker 1: one of the very few people that he gets excited
Speaker 1: when they drop fire Fire. I've seen that. That was dope,
Speaker 1: even for Drake to post that shit and stay tapped
Speaker 1: in he congratulated me on the album. I think that's
Speaker 1: dope that all the smart people I say this all
Speaker 1: the time, all the smart people tapping early. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they tapping early, the curators, they pushed the culture. They
Speaker 1: tapping early. Have everybody else tapping, But uh, what's up
Speaker 1: with the when? When? When? When's the Drakes on coming out? Man? Soon?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Soon baby soon soon that record?
Speaker 1: And he's got one yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So
Speaker 1: he's a dope record. It's a dope record, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I got I got like, uh, like
Speaker 1: a couple more records that I want to put out
Speaker 1: with this. I'm gonna probably end up putting those singles.
Speaker 1: I got a record with Scott Storch. He produced it.
Speaker 1: So oh ship, shout out Steve Lobell what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out Steve's my boy Steve. But yeah, Steven maniac.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker got that energy. Like, yes he do, yes,
Speaker 1: he does around around. He's still in it to run
Speaker 1: around and ship. He's still in it. Bro. I saw
Speaker 1: him leaving your ship last night. I'm like, damn, Steve,
Speaker 1: why do I see you everywhere? And you're like you
Speaker 1: oh G O G Like yeah, he'd be working shot joints.
Speaker 1: Did you get high with yo? Storch is like one
Speaker 1: of those guys who smokes like crazy. Yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. He asked some ship for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I brought some weed over there, gas top, I smoke gas.
Speaker 1: I got some weed over there, he said, Man, no,
Speaker 1: he smoked this and that type of ship when you
Speaker 1: got the Fat Joe joint, because Fat Joe is, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, one of the most slept on MC's ever.
Speaker 1: I feel like his longevity, his lyrical ability, his ability
Speaker 1: to make hit records like the Guy's just all time great.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like you don't get enough love.
Speaker 1: I feel like niggas like him get cheated out the
Speaker 1: love because they so great. Niggas like he don't come.
Speaker 1: We know he gonna come with a hit every song.
Speaker 1: He don't count people do that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They'll come with you out like you don't come because
Speaker 1: they know you. They know you're shot wet. So you
Speaker 1: got like you got like, uh you know, big al,
Speaker 1: big picture, Fat Joe. You got nineteen ninety three Fat
Speaker 1: Joe the gangster Fat You got Joey Crack on that
Speaker 1: ship you said I was looking for you, like tell
Speaker 1: him that, like look Mann that you already knows right.
Speaker 1: He came to He came and did it. He came
Speaker 1: into Brooklyn to do the record. I wasn't there, but
Speaker 1: he came to Brooklyn to do the record with Harry,
Speaker 1: So he said he only came here. He told me
Speaker 1: only came with one other person. So he was he
Speaker 1: was ready, He was ready, He was ready. Damn. What
Speaker 1: is uh the one thing you learned from the pandemic?
Speaker 1: M as far as maybe just your like like the
Speaker 1: hustle of the like like cause you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about this earlier. Had there been no restrictions, you know,
Speaker 1: the burden of proof toward him been fucking crazy stupid,
Speaker 1: you know, saying like I know a lot of bags.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there was festivals you probably planned
Speaker 1: on doing, like all this shit. This ship was shit
Speaker 1: was loaded up. But what did you learn anything like
Speaker 1: like like like how to kind of move accordingly in
Speaker 1: case some shiit like you know, cause a lot of
Speaker 1: artists they really depend on the road to like get
Speaker 1: their bread because they take those shitty advances we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, and they got to depend on the
Speaker 1: road to get their money. See I'm a little different because,
Speaker 1: like we said, I never took advance from a big
Speaker 1: label and no shit like that, so I don't rely
Speaker 1: on my money from I'm a nigga who who where
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting one hundred bands six figures for a show,
Speaker 1: and then pandemic here I ain't getting it. I was
Speaker 1: on an inkline. You was going up. I was going up.
Speaker 1: So it ain't like ain't like I'm missing a million.
Speaker 1: I'm missing a few million out my salary. I missed
Speaker 1: money that I that I've never seen anyway. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that I wasn't already getting anyway. So
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know we do the
Speaker 1: merch ting, you know merch merch. You just dropped the
Speaker 1: new merch. Yes, sir, the merchant does very well. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Hey, Hey, the new Design Shot Club,
Speaker 1: Shadow of Scrubb God Cat Me, Tony the Narrow, Jake Man,
Speaker 1: all my team, they helped me. Man Jakes had to
Speaker 1: slip me to the Friends and Family discount code. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's a fact, that's a shout
Speaker 1: out to my guy Jake. Talk about your relationship with Rush.
Speaker 1: He puts you on the Chomp the Chomp EP, which
Speaker 1: I thought was I'm so glad he did that project
Speaker 1: because it was fire. He just wanted to show niggas
Speaker 1: and also you know, I feel like it showed motherfucker's like, yo,
Speaker 1: he rust is like a real rapper when he wants
Speaker 1: to be. He can rap better than a lot of
Speaker 1: these niggas. He know fact, you know that, and they
Speaker 1: ain't know that too well. You know, you were supposed
Speaker 1: to go on this tour with him, and then that
Speaker 1: didn't end up happening because of this ship. Like, uh,
Speaker 1: that'd have been crazy. That would have had so many
Speaker 1: been some of my biggest moments fans and ship. You
Speaker 1: would have so many little white girls that would have
Speaker 1: never even like like singing along with fucking cocaine songs
Speaker 1: and ship. But uh, but how strong is your guys
Speaker 1: your guys relationship because I feel like Russ is somebody who,
Speaker 1: as well as yourself, are turning are turning into really
Speaker 1: like independent juggernauts. I feel like some of the knowledge
Speaker 1: that Russ gives artists for free, you know, is ship
Speaker 1: that their own team won't tell him. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I definitely picked his brain a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And we definitely always tap
Speaker 1: in with each other. He a good dude, He genuine
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Getting his money. He a
Speaker 1: businessman first and foremost, so I like his style, but
Speaker 1: definitely picked that nigga brain. He's a genius independent getting
Speaker 1: that paper. I picked his brain about a few things,
Speaker 1: how to work my artists of how going about when
Speaker 1: he was shopping the deal? So how did you and
Speaker 1: Harry Fraud link? Harry Fraud again, very very underrated producer.
Speaker 1: Guy's a monster legend man. Me and me and me
Speaker 1: and Harry link because we had a mutual business partner,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then who connected us?
Speaker 1: You know, of course I know who he was. He
Speaker 1: probably hurt my name with the Griselda ship, but they
Speaker 1: connected us and then it was dope vibing. Good dude.
Speaker 1: Spent a lot of time out there in Brooklyn recording
Speaker 1: with him. I bring my homies out there. He produced
Speaker 1: songs for uh Rick Hyde that's on place to him
Speaker 1: and Shade had a good relationship. So what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he like a dude like that. How dope was this
Speaker 1: this year to be a well? First of all, congratulations
Speaker 1: for doing the Buffalo Bill song. Yes, because I'm Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals fan like die Hard. By the way, when we
Speaker 1: beat y'all Hill Murray, Yeah, yeah, did hell Murray? I
Speaker 1: lost my mind with it. I was sick. The playoff
Speaker 1: really didn't matter. But no, but like we did to
Speaker 1: lose a game and we went on after that game.
Speaker 1: We had a lot to lose after that game. But
Speaker 1: but how how special of a year was it to
Speaker 1: be a Buffalo guy? You know, because y'all had a
Speaker 1: great year. You had the I can only imagine, like
Speaker 1: as a kid, if someone would have told you, like
Speaker 1: you could be on the fifty yard line, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have the theme song for the Buffalo Bills, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. It was crazy, man, Sit was
Speaker 1: crazy man. Shout out everybody over there, K sweet, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Ron, Paul the gouyas Tony Dnill
Speaker 1: really hooked that up. Uh you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Lenova's to Donald family, everybody. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They hooked that up for me. But man, that's like
Speaker 1: a beyond the dream come true. Beyond it, there's like
Speaker 1: certain shit like a dream come true. You fee what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because I'm a real diehard Bills fan, I
Speaker 1: don't play that shit. I don't give a fuck. If
Speaker 1: I never done a song, if I never met nobody
Speaker 1: on the team, I'll still be going there spending my money.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, I wouldn't give a fuck. I
Speaker 1: probably would have been made the song anyway. But for
Speaker 1: us to do the merch collab and everything, for them
Speaker 1: to buy into my brand and want to partner with me,
Speaker 1: that says a lot. And I feel like even though
Speaker 1: even though the city you got a soft spot, soft
Speaker 1: spot and they hurt for the team and the owners,
Speaker 1: I think that that showed the city like some more
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. That's what I'm like, Damn,
Speaker 1: they fucked with boy, you know what I mean that
Speaker 1: that was dope. I mean they fucked with east Side Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I think that was that was dope at them and
Speaker 1: I appreciate them for that. Josh Allen or Jim Kelly, Sir,
Speaker 1: are you gonna ask me that question on TV? Josh
Speaker 1: Allen or Jim Kelly? Josh Kelly, I mean you gotta
Speaker 1: kind of say, you gotta kind of say Jim Kelly
Speaker 1: because for for super Bowl appearances in a row. But
Speaker 1: I'd be damn if Josh Allen don't look like a Josh.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a stud. He's a guy. When he
Speaker 1: came in, he didn't look how he looked this season,
Speaker 1: but he was showing improvement and every year he went
Speaker 1: in the off season to clank that we he need
Speaker 1: to clean up every year. And he's playing like MVP
Speaker 1: level and he can run and he's a dog. He
Speaker 1: got hurt and that's dope. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Motherfucking Stefan Diggs bought him a AP, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so he with the ship and yep, yep,
Speaker 1: and I love you and I'm happy he there and
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of good years. When people
Speaker 1: come to the Bills, do they feel like they had
Speaker 1: to have to tap in with the team, like tapping
Speaker 1: with y'all. No, not really, but let me finish though.
Speaker 1: That was Josh. But now Jim though, Jim is Jim.
Speaker 1: Jim Jim took. You gotta take Jim right. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Jim Jim, Uh, he is buffalo.
Speaker 1: He fought tooth and nail came there. Remember when Jim
Speaker 1: Jim came Uh, he didn't even want to play. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to play in Buffalo. Now he lived there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You don't even want to leave.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to come. Now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: leave a four straight that that never happened. Brady, Brady
Speaker 1: ain't do that, you know what I'm saying. Even Brady
Speaker 1: ain't do that. You got to give Jim his You
Speaker 1: would trade in the four just for the one win though,
Speaker 1: right like you would like? Of course I will. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, of course, Like what was it like
Speaker 1: to be a Bills fan with Doug Flutie? Was that?
Speaker 1: But I remember when the Flakes look like somebody who
Speaker 1: works at Blockbuster, you know what I'm saying, Just a
Speaker 1: little little white dude, just right. But that's what Buffalo is, man.
Speaker 1: It's like he was like almost made for that team
Speaker 1: in that city, right, the underdog who want to fight,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what Jim. You gotta think.
Speaker 1: Jim came in with Damn Marino, John Elway. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Troy Ayman, he came in with those
Speaker 1: dudes and they all got yellow jackets. You what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He got in the Hall of fame. The hell yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, all of fame, say that'd be that that
Speaker 1: whole team, that whole Squadman Thomas is in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Who was the wide receiver was James Lofton,
Speaker 1: Andre Reid, little white dude Steve Tasker, who is the
Speaker 1: little white dude that talking about Don bb bb the
Speaker 1: guy who was running And yeah, yep he ended up
Speaker 1: going to a green bay and winning one. Damn right right,
Speaker 1: he said. He said he felt bad when he won
Speaker 1: that one. Hey, who's your favorite rapper? Like right now,
Speaker 1: not time about all time? Right now, right now, right now?
Speaker 1: Got rapped birds? I listened to give me like three
Speaker 1: that aren't signed to you. I wasn't gonna say nobody
Speaker 1: signed to me. I'm gonna tell you what I be
Speaker 1: listening to. I'm saying what I be listening to. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to Remember the Time by Kodak, that song that's
Speaker 1: my ship. Okay, I'm always I'm listening to Meet all
Speaker 1: the time. I listened to a lot of meat. You
Speaker 1: and Meek Mill wouldn't happen to have any music together
Speaker 1: with you? Yes we do, Oh okay, yes we do,
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Shout out to chasers, what else? Who
Speaker 1: else I'm listening to? I listen to Little Baby forty
Speaker 1: two Doug Uh, that's what type of shit I'll be
Speaker 1: listening to. I be listening to trap music. What'd you say? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got that's like my theme song. That's like my theme
Speaker 1: song when I want to get on my ship in
Speaker 1: with my niggas. We all got our ship on. We
Speaker 1: recession proof, yo yo. Gotti is low key like one
Speaker 1: of the hardest bosses in hip hop history. Like all
Speaker 1: his artists, he wants to actually be bigger than himself.
Speaker 1: You know, most of these motherfuckers, they'll sign somebody and
Speaker 1: their their ego will get in the way of their
Speaker 1: You know, Ross has done a good of not being
Speaker 1: that way exactly, but but definitely job. I'm saying, your
Speaker 1: person to learn from too. Yeah. You ever tapped in
Speaker 1: with Gotti? I met him at the Rock Nation brunch.
Speaker 1: We ain't get to tap in. Hip Boy introduced us
Speaker 1: and ship shout out to hip Boy. Hey, speaking of
Speaker 1: hip Boy, just want to Grammy for for king? I
Speaker 1: told him, I said, you are walking fucking Grammy. That's
Speaker 1: what I told him. The other day. Man, I texted him,
Speaker 1: how close I mean, your album had to be considered
Speaker 1: for the it had to be in the running. It
Speaker 1: came out a month late before they saying okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you could be in discussion for it for next year.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I ain't about hell no, of course I would have
Speaker 1: to have it. I get that ship to my mom
Speaker 1: or some ship like that, you know, to talk my
Speaker 1: ship to drag my nuts. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know that ship, don't you know what I mean? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I think uh, like like I was with Freddie all
Speaker 1: day on Sunday and you know he lost even I
Speaker 1: think he should have bunched out shouts to nas. But
Speaker 1: I think afraid it was the album of the Year.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like just coming from like an independent,
Speaker 1: like lyrical background. I feel like this year's nominations, you
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about, Like I think a
Speaker 1: Little Baby should have probably been in that conferce, but
Speaker 1: it was all dope fucking rap music like Royce Scott
Speaker 1: a nomination. That shit's crazy, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and Royce is crazy. But Royce's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite MC's ever. As someone who like I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like they at least kind of like got
Speaker 1: the nominations right besides a little baby, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: a little baby or Roddy could have been in that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ARADATEI to Roddy too. What they only could happen? They
Speaker 1: should have just nominated everybody only have a certain mines.
Speaker 1: Five nominees say you can't put a no role nominees,
Speaker 1: So what that means? You gotta put the ship that
Speaker 1: deserve it? Sometimes niggas might it might it might be
Speaker 1: eight nominees one year album of a year. What you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? I don't know? Would you? And I mean
Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're doing a sequel to the Plugs
Speaker 1: I met with you and hit Boy get back together.
Speaker 1: I know you guys got some records burn a Proof too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be crazy. Has it been discussed? That has to
Speaker 1: have been I mean you got I know you guys
Speaker 1: got that haven't been specifically discussed, but it's been discussed.
Speaker 1: Lock in what we doing, lock in a you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let's go so proof too. I like
Speaker 1: what I like hit Boy because you could go over
Speaker 1: there and you'll never know who's around, and then like
Speaker 1: you get like random like there's so many random records
Speaker 1: like a sap Ferg's on a NAVS song, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's just just like it's that environment, it's that type
Speaker 1: of boy studio has that it's got that like every
Speaker 1: like you know everybody's it's it's just it's just a
Speaker 1: good spot. Shout out to hit boy. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna start dropping singles Drake songs coming out soon? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's uh yo. When you do, obviously you have to
Speaker 1: pay Drake, right, it was a little swap that was
Speaker 1: for love. Yeah he did. I mean he he not.
Speaker 1: I mean he ain't like asking if the niggas the pain.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the business go when the song
Speaker 1: come out right, right, But but you ain't had to
Speaker 1: do the like I don't even think you could buy
Speaker 1: a Drake feature for the record. Right. He's doing what
Speaker 1: he wants to do, right, He's just doing what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. And because if you want to if
Speaker 1: you work with who, he who he choose to work
Speaker 1: at at this point, at this point in his career,
Speaker 1: working with who, he feels dope and well, he feel
Speaker 1: his wavy so, like I said, it's dope for dudes
Speaker 1: like that, even russ Hip Boy to reach to a
Speaker 1: nigga like me. You know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 1: he not, he not. I mean, I'm pretty sure if
Speaker 1: if you got that bag and like, yo, I need
Speaker 1: you on this, I got this. Of course he a hustler,
Speaker 1: he gonna take it. But he just I mean, he
Speaker 1: just curating right now. I mean talk about the shows
Speaker 1: in l A. It was right before everything shut down.
Speaker 1: That was like the last thing I did was to
Speaker 1: those shows. It was going crazy. I remember it was
Speaker 1: at the meet and greet we had. They were telling us, okay,
Speaker 1: no more dapping. At the meeting, like she was getting real.
Speaker 1: You were selling like five hundred dollars aprons or something.
Speaker 1: I was going up to the merch booths and everything
Speaker 1: was sold out except for this. What was like it
Speaker 1: was an apron, like a bloody apron. There was like
Speaker 1: one bloody apron left or sow much was? How much
Speaker 1: was the apron? It was? I was like, damn, the
Speaker 1: only thing this left us two hundred dollars Christ But
Speaker 1: but that was the show. When you know, uh Conway
Speaker 1: did the cow was crying and Hoe was standing on
Speaker 1: the side of the stage and shiit like, how crazy
Speaker 1: was that night that jay Z came to that Because
Speaker 1: that that seemed like one of them moments that's like
Speaker 1: pivotal for the crew, you know what I'm saying, Even
Speaker 1: though you guys are already ganged up with you know,
Speaker 1: with rock Nation and Ship, but like that, that seemed
Speaker 1: like one of them knights. Like when y'all do your
Speaker 1: documentary one day, it was it was something in there.
Speaker 1: It was it was just doing the show, knowing big
Speaker 1: dogs staying there watching and Ship like that coming through
Speaker 1: support and showing that he approved him and eye him
Speaker 1: and came through though it just left the bucks Lakers
Speaker 1: get me up. And that's what I seen him Like.
Speaker 1: It was right across the street and they just stopped by,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was definitely like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We're on our ship. He
Speaker 1: congratulated niggas the next day, like yo, y'all killed that.
Speaker 1: So I feel like the inevitable has to be Jay
Speaker 1: getting on a record with Benny. That's inevitable. That'd be crazy,
Speaker 1: and that'd be crazy. Is that something than that? I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't ask for something like that. It's almost like
Speaker 1: the Drake thing, like if he wants to do it,
Speaker 1: he'll do it type ship, right right, right right. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie I asked, though you did ask, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's nothing you could really ask for. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I should have worked into the manager
Speaker 1: what like, I'm a sign, but I need I need
Speaker 1: one J verse. I needed sixteen of him talking about
Speaker 1: selling cocaine. But I understand what I'm saying. Of course
Speaker 1: I want a whole verse, but I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I understand that his door is open to us, so
Speaker 1: I understand that it's some knowledge and certain ship that
Speaker 1: I'm a game that could be just as valuable, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like all of them to deal
Speaker 1: with the NFL. I knew that before it happened. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh uh, what's the name? I
Speaker 1: was in the rock nation building. Somebody tell me is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: watch what happened Thursday? Then that square ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, that shit was crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean so like it's like he he before he did
Speaker 1: that NFL deal, that was the day that I signed
Speaker 1: my contract. So he had chopped it up with us,
Speaker 1: and then we went to go do that. So he
Speaker 1: was explaining it to us. So his door is open,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's a lot to
Speaker 1: be gained. I mean, I don't be one. I don't
Speaker 1: be wanting him to feel that that I just wanted.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm that type. I just want the song.
Speaker 1: I want the song because it ain't like that. Of
Speaker 1: course I would take the mother for you. You asked
Speaker 1: for the song? What would they tell you? Nah? I
Speaker 1: asked him, So did where? Did let me tell you?
Speaker 1: What did he say? What did the hotel me? I
Speaker 1: think he was. I think he was going out of town.
Speaker 1: I have one time I had flew out here. He
Speaker 1: had the idea of a song that he wanted to
Speaker 1: do with me, and I flew out here to do
Speaker 1: the song with him, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: he was moving around and doing shit. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know that's that's the fucking president times too.
Speaker 1: So what happened? So you flew out here to do
Speaker 1: a song where he had the idea for the So
Speaker 1: what was the idea? I never got to chop it up?
Speaker 1: They was like yo, him, like, YO, could you be
Speaker 1: out here? He said, he got an idea. I said,
Speaker 1: y'all come out there. That's like one of those things
Speaker 1: you don't even think twice. You're just like being on
Speaker 1: the plane. And what happens. What I would have I
Speaker 1: would have I would have been driving a carry on
Speaker 1: the highway, all right, guys were happening in the spinner damn.
Speaker 1: I mean. But but but even for him to have
Speaker 1: an idea, you know what I mean, if we never
Speaker 1: do nothing, that's still crazy to me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that would be insane, that would be it
Speaker 1: would sound crazy. I'm gonna be honest, and if Hove
Speaker 1: get on the song with me, Hove going, He's gonna
Speaker 1: give you the aesthetic of what the what what he
Speaker 1: feel like the people want to hear on some street shit.
Speaker 1: I believe because I analyzed it, because you know, I
Speaker 1: sat down and thought about my jay Z feature a
Speaker 1: few times. Look when he get on them songs with
Speaker 1: with Jeezi or the Push and Ship, the Drug Dealers Anonymous,
Speaker 1: he's going in. That's what I'm trying to say. So
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been thought about this. I've been
Speaker 1: thought about that. You know what I'm saying. I feel
Speaker 1: like he come on some ship like that and it'd
Speaker 1: be crazy. Yeah, that would be that'd be wild. You
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, you and Conway obviously always being fan et cetera, like,
Speaker 1: but you kind of skaped over the you know, we
Speaker 1: got might dual project together. Everybody's been asking for that,
Speaker 1: Like you guys gotta have at least a projects worth
Speaker 1: the music and the can together. Mm hmmm. We got
Speaker 1: some records, but nah, because we got a project. We
Speaker 1: got projects worth for music together. Like I got a first,
Speaker 1: I got a verse I gotta do for him right now.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Some ship that he sent me.
Speaker 1: I got a verse that I gotta do. Send it
Speaker 1: to me like a week ago. I gotta knock it
Speaker 1: out for him, what I'm saying. So like we always
Speaker 1: send the shit. I'm on his shit. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: on my ship. So it's like, we know, we just
Speaker 1: need to lock in for three days, three four days comfortably. Man,
Speaker 1: Conway is an alien, that's all. I'm the same man.
Speaker 1: Nigga be cheating. It's crazy that nigga be cheating. How
Speaker 1: you guys are like, it's like you guys are like
Speaker 1: the fucking nets bro, Like Nigga be cheating, cheat cold
Speaker 1: with that ship he rapped like a fucking computer. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Terminator three. Is he somebody who like, like, did you
Speaker 1: learn a lot? Who? Who? Who do you think? I mean?
Speaker 1: Obviously when you you know, when Griselda was first starting
Speaker 1: to step out and do the freestyles, you were like
Speaker 1: you were just Benny, you know what I mean? So,
Speaker 1: did has Conway taught you like like like like any
Speaker 1: things that you've built built on throughout the years, just
Speaker 1: like when it comes to this rapping shit or did
Speaker 1: you guys always just kind of learn from each other? Man?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I've been around him niggas since I was
Speaker 1: a kid, So I learned more from I learned more
Speaker 1: than I learned a lot in the past few years
Speaker 1: since people have been seeing us. But shit that I
Speaker 1: learned from that nigga, I learned by the time I
Speaker 1: was eighteen. Wow, you feel what I'm saying like real shit,
Speaker 1: And I'm just him as he learning more, I'm learning more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying from him? And West you
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. But hell yeah, it's like specifically, uh,
Speaker 1: I remember when I first when I was working on
Speaker 1: ten and Talk three, he maybe heard a couple of
Speaker 1: tracks and he was like, Yo, just do you he said,
Speaker 1: don't worry about trying to don't get caught up and
Speaker 1: doing what me and West do. Just do you relax.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he heard. I felt like the
Speaker 1: songs was fired or whatever, but he probably heard something.
Speaker 1: But I understand what he was trying to say, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he had a nigga like
Speaker 1: that who gonna come with his advice and shit like that.
Speaker 1: And then on on the on the executive side, you
Speaker 1: doing black in the family? BSF, what have you taken from? What? What?
Speaker 1: What Westside Gun is? Because you know he's got a
Speaker 1: crazy shot Boldie James. I mean, he's been Harmoni Caesar,
Speaker 1: He's been putting together an amazing roster and he's so
Speaker 1: dope about just the aesthetic of the crew. Facts Like
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of people are a lot
Speaker 1: of people might fuck with with y'all ship, but they
Speaker 1: just fuck with with the gear and ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just the vibe like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But what what? What have you gotten from from?
Speaker 1: Gun that you're applying now to your ship. Just do it.
Speaker 1: Just do it. You see the ship that he do.
Speaker 1: Nigga in pairs the nigga doing this, Nigga doing that.
Speaker 1: Sure has a great car collection, does he does? He do?
Speaker 1: Say every time open my fucking phone. It's like this
Speaker 1: wool gotta red something you got some ship, got l truck,
Speaker 1: buzz got the fleet. But man, I just learned from
Speaker 1: just just doing it. You know what I mean? Open
Speaker 1: just open up his store of Buffalo Kids store in
Speaker 1: the mall Walden Gallery in Buffalo. Like you said, signing,
Speaker 1: just run around doing this doing that. We did the movie.
Speaker 1: Just do it so you could do it. If it's
Speaker 1: in your reach, do it? Like what the fuck you're
Speaker 1: waiting for? Were you ranking the movie amongst other classics
Speaker 1: such as like I don't know, let's talk about like
Speaker 1: Yo kill a season and maybe maybe shotas you know,
Speaker 1: I'm ranking it, I'm raking it. I'm ranking the top ten.
Speaker 1: I rank conflicted top ten. What's your favorite like rap movie?
Speaker 1: And I don't mean rat movie is in like Crush,
Speaker 1: Groove and Ship. I mean like you know, let's go
Speaker 1: like ninety seven and up like the there's a lot
Speaker 1: of dope rap movies. I don't know, ninety seven and up.
Speaker 1: You know movie there was fucking Beanie single was what
Speaker 1: was that fucking movie? Beanie Siingles, pap Paper Soldiers, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the ship, the ship, the other ship, the State Property movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, them shits? Yeah, all them ships is fire
Speaker 1: h paid in full of shits. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Belly was Belly, Yeah, all of them ships. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta watch them shits over and over.
Speaker 1: We watched them ships right now, them ships that will
Speaker 1: come on you and change the channel. I always tell
Speaker 1: everyone Belly is the best worst movie ever or because
Speaker 1: it's like it's like when you when you watch it
Speaker 1: when you're like fifteen, like me, I was fifteen and
Speaker 1: by Rough Riders, and shit, I'm like, this is the
Speaker 1: greatest movie of all. But then when you're like thirty
Speaker 1: and you rewatch it, you're like, this storyline was kind
Speaker 1: of shitty, if we're just being honest. But the visuals
Speaker 1: were so Like Pike Williams, I wish you would have
Speaker 1: kept making movies, because I think that's the only movie
Speaker 1: you ever did. And then Belly two came out with
Speaker 1: the game and it and that shit was thats shit
Speaker 1: was trash. Yeah the game. Yeah, the fucking the Belly
Speaker 1: two ship. Belly two was horrific. I've seen that. I
Speaker 1: heard people say that. Then I've seen the ship. You
Speaker 1: saw it, you actually watched it. I watched like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do this, man, this ain't
Speaker 1: belly No. I watched it. Are you gonna act more? Hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just taking acting classes and all that. Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: on my ship. I'm taking I'm it's harder rapping or
Speaker 1: acting mmm, acting acting because I'm being me in front
Speaker 1: of that mic. I gotta be somebody. I gotta be
Speaker 1: somebody else in front of a camera. They might just
Speaker 1: start typecasting you though. It's like you know that that
Speaker 1: that like the fucking drug dealer in every movie, which
Speaker 1: would be a nice career. I won't mind that. I
Speaker 1: won't mind that that one. What's that Mexican I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put in every movie? The ball guy, he's in fucking Next,
Speaker 1: He's in Friday after Next and everything and everything. I'm like,
Speaker 1: they just this guy's whole career is just being I'm
Speaker 1: playing the motherfucking I'm playing a doctor. Next time I'm
Speaker 1: playing some ship. But that's what I'm saying I might do.
Speaker 1: I might do a romantic movie next time you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it? Are you gonna do a rom com? I
Speaker 1: might because my ship independent. I'm waiting for scripts. I'm
Speaker 1: not waiting. I don't gotta go to Netflix and no
Speaker 1: ship like that. I'm We're gonna fund the movie by ourself,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna start doing your own movies. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we did. We conflict. I know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: is that something that's gonna be like a thing? Now?
Speaker 1: Many people like it, they fuck with it, and I
Speaker 1: can't stop if I wanted to. They want to see
Speaker 1: me in more films. Damn so right, that's what I
Speaker 1: was saying. I had to get ready more. It takes
Speaker 1: some acting classes get my ship right. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like you could have been in it more, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that was good that
Speaker 1: they that what happened to a buzz down a breakneck
Speaker 1: because people know me. I was a familiar face in
Speaker 1: the movie and people was attached to me, so right
Speaker 1: in the middle of a movie, we fucking your emotions
Speaker 1: up he out of here likes like, damn, that's Benny.
Speaker 1: I think it reminds me like, do you remember, like
Speaker 1: back in the day, anytime a rapper would have like
Speaker 1: a cameo in a movie, they'd put him on the
Speaker 1: cover like he probably yeah Blockbuster, and you'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, Nas is in this movie called Ticker. What
Speaker 1: is this? And then you rent it and he's in
Speaker 1: it for like three minutes and you're like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this? Did you ever watch that Nas movie? No,
Speaker 1: that was a real movie. Just it's called Ticker. It's like,
Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name in it, but it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's some like it's the most random ship. He was
Speaker 1: on the cover. Yeah, he was on the cover, like
Speaker 1: he was really up in there and a bag for
Speaker 1: that then. But he must have, man, he must have.
Speaker 1: All right, So the rest of the year, last time
Speaker 1: you were, you kind of laid out everything and then
Speaker 1: we got to this point we could do it. Oh
Speaker 1: let me see, I was going out with going to
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. The rest of the year.
Speaker 1: We got Rick High album coming next. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He killed Yep, we got placed to coming
Speaker 1: next he killed that fucking us the virus remorse, and
Speaker 1: then uh, He'm gonna put some ship out. Uh, you
Speaker 1: never know, Like you said, you never know Freddy Gibbs
Speaker 1: Benny album. You never know. My schedule is My schedule
Speaker 1: is clear. What I'm saying, My schedule is clear, So
Speaker 1: we never know. I'm definitely putting something out by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, definitely, definitely. That's why I had
Speaker 1: to get I had to get this out at the
Speaker 1: top of the year because I'm on my way again. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: the album is out, Yes, Drake song should be coming
Speaker 1: out soon. That What something like that happens is that like, uh,
Speaker 1: are you still independent or does that go through his ship?
Speaker 1: What just the Drake song? Uh, because he'll be hopping on.
Speaker 1: He hopped on, he'd be having an artist ship and
Speaker 1: then and then all of a sudden it's throw over.
Speaker 1: Yo'd be like, wait, what could be like a one
Speaker 1: off or something. You ain't got to the paperwork. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you No, we ain't get to that, chick, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But however, go I'm pretty sure. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that it's gonna run smooth. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drop that this year. I'm gonna drop some more,
Speaker 1: like a whole album this year. How many records? What
Speaker 1: the meet do you have? We got one record? One
Speaker 1: is that? Is that yours? That's his record? Its right? Yeah, Yo,
Speaker 1: you've been on a lot of people's ship. I feel
Speaker 1: like right now you're like the the like dope rapper.
Speaker 1: Every every artist is like, yo, I gotta do like
Speaker 1: I gotta have something spinner on my ship. Let me
Speaker 1: let me see what's up with Benny? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen you. You want to like t
Speaker 1: I's album. Yeah, just like random ship, like that ship
Speaker 1: Benny's on this shout out tip. Yeah, well, what's been
Speaker 1: the most random feature you've done? Of notoriety? That that
Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't have expected to shout out? Denzel Curry,
Speaker 1: you heard that ship? I want to diar remix. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh No, that's not the random one stands out crazy
Speaker 1: random one, random one? What the fuck? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Some shit I'm trying to think of like the artist
Speaker 1: people will know, but I don't know. But I'm about
Speaker 1: to be working with a whole bunch of different niggas. Anyway,
Speaker 1: is like a BENNI Verse purchasable. Yeah, okay, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So some guy, some dope boy in Indianapolis, Indiana right now,
Speaker 1: is watching this and he's like, I got this fucking bag.
Speaker 1: I want to I want a Benny record, he can
Speaker 1: buy it. How much does that cost? Let's do a
Speaker 1: little advertisement, let's camera, let's go. Okay, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: we got two options. We got the major label price
Speaker 1: and then we got the independent dope boy price. So
Speaker 1: give me the two prices. M twenty k, twenty k,
Speaker 1: twenty k. Will you do the video or is that
Speaker 1: actually you gotta put extra another twenty k? So forty
Speaker 1: dollars if you're in whatever city and you want to
Speaker 1: fucking Benny Versus, get it to Homie Tony, get it
Speaker 1: the Homie Tony get it, Harlem. I have twenty bands
Speaker 1: that Ben get at me. And if you want the video,
Speaker 1: it's forty yeah, forty Dan, These prices, these prices aren't negotiable.
Speaker 1: Will you take bitcoin? Yeah? Do you own any bitcoin? No?
Speaker 1: I ain't jump I ain't jumping that shit, man, you shit,
Speaker 1: it's everybody be telling me to jump in that. Every
Speaker 1: time someone's told you to jump on it you should
Speaker 1: have because it's like sixty bands right now, a word
Speaker 1: for one. In the pandemic, it got down to like
Speaker 1: thirty seven hundred dollars a coin and now it's six.
Speaker 1: This was all excited. Yep. Fuck trust me, I know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Trust me. I got some other shit, though.
Speaker 1: What do you like? Like, like, do you have any
Speaker 1: sort of things you invest in? Like we got the
Speaker 1: sports agency. You tell me about the sports you got
Speaker 1: the sports agency, Big Sports, because it hasn't gone that
Speaker 1: hasn't gone well for other rappers. I had Ricky Williams
Speaker 1: in here last week and he was telling me about
Speaker 1: the no limit shit because he was signing No Limit.
Speaker 1: So how like, I feel like the only person who's
Speaker 1: really pulled it off pulled it off, has been Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how you It's different, Uh, levels of the
Speaker 1: ship's contracts in its marketing right now, we're doing marketing
Speaker 1: right let me explain this. Now. We were teaming up
Speaker 1: with players and athletes and and and connecting them with
Speaker 1: brands that they usually want't connect with because these local
Speaker 1: brands would want to do business with these athletes. So
Speaker 1: you don't got to be Michael Jordan to get a commercial.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. And these and these athletes,
Speaker 1: it's hustlers just like we is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make fifty thousand, one hundred thousand here, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They down to do that virus
Speaker 1: market and everything like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, when COVID break it, it'll be
Speaker 1: a little better. But we're doing things like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We just we just did something
Speaker 1: with Lamar Oldham. I can talk about that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just did something with Lamar Oldham. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Shot out Lamaro old Lamar Older Man, tell
Speaker 1: me he cool. When it came to the video, man
Speaker 1: Harlem and his homeboy brought him through. Man, I fuck
Speaker 1: with I fuck with Oldham Man real? So is he
Speaker 1: one of your clients? Oh see, that's the thing, like
Speaker 1: we we we signed a client contract you to do
Speaker 1: the marketing both both you could have if you're not
Speaker 1: locked in with a contract, like we could come and
Speaker 1: we could come get you some paper, We could work
Speaker 1: freelance for you and we would just take our percentage.
Speaker 1: What is the like inspiration to get involved in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously a big sports guy as of mine,
Speaker 1: but to kind of officially dip your toe in or
Speaker 1: something like that, that's like, that's a hard business. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's a hard business. I have
Speaker 1: plenty of talks, but that's what we do. Man, were
Speaker 1: in it for that, and I got a h my man, Ron,
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was he had a
Speaker 1: sports agency for twenty five years. So he's doing it
Speaker 1: with you. You know what I'm saying. He in our corner.
Speaker 1: He giving us all the game. We have several meetings
Speaker 1: with him. I'm gonna go chopp it with og Wan two.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, rock Nation Sports, So you
Speaker 1: know those you know what I'm saying. So trust me,
Speaker 1: I'm equipped. Which is there any athletes like that? You
Speaker 1: guys are like pretty locked in with that you work
Speaker 1: with on like a regular basis. Uh. We really just
Speaker 1: started it. We really just getting the website up and everything.
Speaker 1: But what's going on with Lamorrow him? You guys have
Speaker 1: been trying to bring his ass back. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: doing work with like Brass Sims. He be atch writer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Henrick Harlett, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, shout out my nigga, Dion Dawkins for the bills.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All the bills gotta tap in, bro, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm trying to tell you,
Speaker 1: like even even like you guys, just sign Emmanuel Sanders. Right,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, Right, He's gonna come in handy for like
Speaker 1: seven million dollars. I got a feeling I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: back on that fifty yard line again, Cole Beasley, Emanuel
Speaker 1: Sanders slashing, Stefan Dick slash, and John Brown slashing through
Speaker 1: the field for seventeen weeks. And that's a crazy four wide. Bro.
Speaker 1: I don't think is John Brown still there? He was
Speaker 1: a free agent right now he left. I don't think
Speaker 1: he signed anywhere yet, did he? Who do Who signed John? Hey?
Speaker 1: John Brown is a homie man car cours be quick,
Speaker 1: super quick all right, man? Well, look the album is out,
Speaker 1: go get that ship. Supported the merchants going crazy to
Speaker 1: keep the merchant stock. Like we don't the sight. The
Speaker 1: sight probably up like three four days out the morth.
Speaker 1: He make drops like that. Sometimes we skip munks. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We keep it very very limited,
Speaker 1: very premium. You know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can go buy a pyrex uh jar signed by
Speaker 1: you on your website. Or candles. I got candles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the candle, the plugs. I met two candles.
Speaker 1: I got, uh what else we got? We got shirts,
Speaker 1: of course, we got hats. We got signed scales, we
Speaker 1: got signed py Rex's, uh signed scales and signed I'm
Speaker 1: doing rubber bands, next, doing my pack of rubber bands. Next,
Speaker 1: you're doing your own rubber bands. Oh ship, drug paraphernalia,
Speaker 1: drug parafernia. Hey, shout out to Crack. You know what.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We talked about We're just
Speaker 1: talking about Crack, you know what I mean. Crack always
Speaker 1: rear his head in the conversation. Somewhere man, somewhere, gotta
Speaker 1: be fire. No real ship. Appreciate you, baby, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Plus, I met two perfect big Griselda