1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here we come. 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, m 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I tell everybody every week is my mantra 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and start writing 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: your own. I also tell people about their passion to 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: leave with their gifts and don't let your age, friends, family, 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: a coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: On my show, interview for consumers as well as business 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: owners access and give them mass sex to celebrities, CEOs, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and what I like to call industry decision makers. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I asked him advice on giving us secrets to their success. 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a Board 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: certified O B G y N and star on Bravos. 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Married to Medicine, returning for his eighth season with guests well. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: Some of the co stars are stars or Dr Jacqueline 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: of course of Mrs Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily who's a 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: danist uh. Dr Tessa who's an occupying occupational medicine, Toya 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: who's well Tarya and they're married to a doctor. And 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: friends of the cast Likenessa and the Cold Guard Well 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and Carrie Welles. New cast member this season, Anila a 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: song on the pilot first year. She's a fashion blog 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: up but she's married to a doctor. Dr Simone Whitmore 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: is on my show to talk about a COVID eight 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: team as civil unrest. That's an erring on the season 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: that she's experienced personally as well and the upcoming season 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of marriage, which is the eighth seeding, the marriage to 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: medicine and the realities of being a real doctor on 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: a reality show, Please work on Monday, making a conversation 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: for the very first time. I'm happy to have her 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: on the show. Dr Simone Whitmore, how are you doing 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent, and thank you so much for having me. 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on the show. 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the reality shows at one time 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: would considered I thought it would be a fad. I 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: thought they wouldn't last. And at one time there was 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: really out of control. They were physically out of control 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of noise, like of cussing, 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: a lot of fussing, a lot of drink throwing. And 46 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: you decided to a being a certified doctor into this room. 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: What what drove you or what was the motivation behind 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: being a part of Married to Medicine. The reason I 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: was willing to film reality TV is because I felt 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: that little black girls in America needed to see somebody 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: that didn't come from money. I came from an alcoholic dad, 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: a single mom, and I know how to have a 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: good time and live my life without the white coat. 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: And I wanted little brown girls in America to see 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: that if I did it, she can do it too. Well. 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: You know you are doing that. It's in this an 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: eight season and it's all about branding too and always 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: about what people think of you, and that this is 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: not a negative interview. These are just basic questions and 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: that I'm just probing and just trying to get your 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: story out because I think it's a really great story. 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I've watched and I've watched the show offered on over 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the years, and my background is casting and producing, so 64 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with your talents and a lot of 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: your cast member quite where Up has been on my 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: show several times. I'm a big fan of hers and so. 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: But when you're when you're practicing doctor like you are, 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: and you're on the reality show, does it and you 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: have a practice, does it ever become an issue with 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: the people that you are, that you are, that are 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: your patients. So most of my patients who have been 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: with me for years, they know who I am. I 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: may say a little mild cuss word in the office 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: trying to be funny, and my patients understand me. When 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I came to reality TV, I came as my authentic self, 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: no more, no less, just my authentic self. And what 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: is your authentic self? I'm just asking. I love medicine, 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: I love O B G. Y N. But I also 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: like to have a good time, hang out shop, have 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: a cocktail hour, and I love the lab. Well, you know, 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking, hear what you're saying. You want 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: to break the stereotype, or if there is a stereotype, 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: you want to say, this is me, and it's all 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: right to be me with no with no um. I 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: guess you know. Standards are are because some people kind 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: of put people on pedestals. And I think that's what 87 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: you're saying that please look at me. I'm Dr Samone 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: with Moore, I am I am board certified, I am successful, 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm happily married. I have a son about to go 90 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: to college. He's living a good life, and I live 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: in a beautiful home. Why can't I be me? Why 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: can't I be Why can't I dress this way and 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: this fast and fashion savvy? Why can't I eat this way? 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Why can't that laugh out lot in public? So in 95 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: your sense, you're feeling that there are certain standards that 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: people hold doctors to that should be pulled down or accepted, 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: that it's all right to be a human being. Not 98 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: to say that any standard that we have or the 99 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: way we see our doctors should be pulled down, but 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: they should be humanized. Man, we are human first, and 101 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: I have that doctor before my name. Now I have 102 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: that m D after my name, but it's not on 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: my birth certificate. It does not define who I am. 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm a wife, I'm a mother, I'm a sister, I'm 105 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. And again, life is about being well rounded. 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: My dad always taught me that be well rounded. Well, 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you know the thing I got that impression of you, 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: uh and the first episode of the eighth season, which 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I did get a chance to see because I want 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: to make sure I was caught up to speed on 111 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: where the character's being developed, and first of the first 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: basically the first episode is your episode. Like I said, 113 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: you joked off air and said, you know you start 114 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: why not? And so it ended with you and you 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: and coming down You're Jackie still got issues, heavenly got issues. 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, You're son about to go off to college. 117 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: But I thought that was a real tender moment in there, 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: your conversation with your son about racism, you know, because 119 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: that's a reality that you know. I have a daughter, 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: she's uh, you know, she's in college, and but even 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: having a young African American male that has to be 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: even more stressful knowing he's going to an environment that 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: may have seeds of racism. Talk about that and we're 124 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: just talking about parenting. That's when you or not we're 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: both parents. But you had a conversation with your son, 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: how do you feel? And you know, lights on on 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: and lights like I felt that was a real conversation, 128 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: was happing with him. But that still has to be 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: some hesitation about him walking out that door. And because 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you want him to come home. You wanted to when 131 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: you when you call that phone, you wanted to answer. 132 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: You wanted to be there when he's happy. You want 133 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: to be there when you said, but you want to 134 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: be there when somebody is doing it wrong because you 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: didn't put eighteen years of your life into him or 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: bring him into this world for ignorance to step into, 137 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, shortening his life or causing difficulty in his life. 138 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: We've always taught our sons to respect authority, to not 139 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: run your mouth, not to talk back when a police 140 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: or a teacher or any of those is talking to you. 141 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: But one of the most important things we try to 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: teach our sons do not have an encounter with the police. 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: So it means abiding by the law, not speeding when 144 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: you're driving down the highway. And we had always thought 145 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: if we taught our boys be respectful, follow the rules, 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: that they would always come home. And George Floyd that 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: video last year showed us that you don't have to 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: be doing anything illegal, you don't have to be running, 149 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to be talking back, and you could 150 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: still lose your life based on someone else's perception of 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: what they think a black man is. And that's you know, 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: being a black man. And I think then you and 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: and and at the end of the premier episode of 154 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: the eighth season they do the fellas get around talking about, 155 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, being pulled over being a black man in America. 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: The reality is that you are raising a young black 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: man in America and he's going to a school. Tell 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: us about the school that he's going to, you know, 159 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: not in the environment, and how what makes you feel 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: comfortable about him going because he has to feel comfortable 161 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: he's going, okay, but what also is making you feel 162 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about the environment that he's going to. So the 163 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: school is Lee University in Cleveland, Tennessee. Cleveland, Tennessee is 164 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: a small town and tennis See that's near Chattanooga. But 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: I just remember that during the pandemic the school was closed. 166 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: We drove up to Cleveland, Tennessee, just to drive around 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the campus to see what it was like, since he 168 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't get the traditional tour with school open. And I 169 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: just remember as we're driving through this small town of Cleveland, 170 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: seeing all of the Confederate flags. So when I saw those, 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: of course I became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has a Confederate 172 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: monument which is walking This is from the school, and 173 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: it's a small school, majority white. It's a Christian school. 174 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: And the reason we were willing to take the chance 175 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: for him to go to the university. Number one, you 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: just hope, you really hope that people who are claiming 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: to be Christians somehow that God is touching their minds, 178 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: their souls, their bodies to really live a Christian life. 179 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: But you know, there were some other basketball players whom 180 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: he had spoken with over the summer who had not 181 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: had any racial encounters, and we're not having any difficult 182 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: time on campus. Is the reason we decided that it 183 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: would be okay for him to attend Lee University. You know, 184 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it is that this is part 185 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: of married to medicine. This is a part of the 186 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: lessons of life, lesson that are relatable to it because 187 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: this that that storyline was relatable to me. My daughter was, 188 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, um a tennis phenomen at sixteen, and so 189 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: she was going out there playing. Then she blew out 190 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: her knee in nineteen and now she's in college and 191 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: very happy for her. But the reality is that where 192 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: can you send your Sunday He won't experience racism indirectly 193 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: or directly, you feel me. So, so you're you're basically 194 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: and you're and your husband basically saying, yes, we're uncomfortable, 195 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: but this is life. You know. We hope we've raised them. 196 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm 197 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: just talking like a parent that hopefully we raised it 198 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: with the values like you told him. You know, if 199 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: it's just a thirty or five drive, thirt or five son, okay, 200 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: you know, a void ignorant for a cop pulls you over, 201 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: tend to understand world, say yes or no, sir till 202 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: you get out the car. Get out the car. Don't 203 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: be playing loud music unnecessarily. So these are the rules 204 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: that we lived by because of the color of our skin. 205 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: And like you said, all America, all of America, because 206 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: it was involved and it was in the uproar, including 207 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: white people when they finally saw and that's I think 208 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: that we all were happy, finally when you saw that 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: on top of COVID. Because you are a legitimate doctor, 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: how does that affect your practice and also your daily 211 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: life when COVID came on top of it reality because 212 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: we all thought Kobe was gonna be a couple of months, 213 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: we were turned to normal. It's not right. 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You know, I should tell friends, you know, 257 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: I should get a flu I go play a game 258 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: of basketball, and they say, sweat it out of me, 259 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: And so I'm trying to sweat it out of me 260 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: now because I'll be laying on the court doc you know. 261 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: But the beauty of this show is that you have friends. 262 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, one of your friends and this was one 263 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: of the lead storylines of the opening season was your 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: friendship with Jackie twenty three years in And I'll just 265 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: let you know that in the in the opening episode, 266 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Jackie was constantly talking about getting back with you, talking 267 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: about I just want to reconcile, and then they showed 268 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you constantly, never saying that they well, you know, I 269 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: don't know what it is what it is, and you know, 270 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: and as a producer and an editor, I know they 271 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: could play characters to develop storylines. And so this is 272 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: a person you've known betweent three years. She's an original 273 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: member of the show, along with yourself. Where do you 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: go when you see these storylines being developed? And we're 275 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna get to Heavenly in a minute. But I want 276 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: to talk about the friendship of Jackie and Simone m 277 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: So I again, I come to reality TV as my 278 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: authentic self. I'm not going to fake a friendship. I 279 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: am not going to pretend to make up unless my 280 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: heart is really in it, right. And Jackie and I 281 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: have known each other a very long time, and of 282 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: all the cast on this show, she knows me the best. 283 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I know her the best. And I did not want 284 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: to make up for TV's sake. I just wasn't interested 285 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: either we were going to have a genuine sit down 286 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: conversation or not. But I didn't want to make up 287 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: just for TV's sake. And I'm just asking now, I 288 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm just asking, So, what is makeup 289 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: for TV sake versus having a genuine sit down? Would 290 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: it be on camera or would it be off camera 291 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: between you and jack Um? It could be either one 292 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: quite frankly, because again I'm going to express my real 293 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't matter whether a camera 294 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: is rolling or not. When you say true to who 295 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't matter whether a camera is present 296 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: or not. Well, you're showing that. Now, You're shown that. 297 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was a dentist, you know, 298 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: y'all y'all joke about that a lot throughout the seasons, 299 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: though we just said Dr dan Is. Even Anila came 300 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: in cracking jokes. Jo, She's a blogger, Okay, gonna crack 301 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: jokes on the dentist. Um, So how does she get 302 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: in between the two of you? Guys? Did I miss 303 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: that episode? Well? So, in actual in actuality, I don't 304 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: think that Heavenly came between me and Jackie. And that 305 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: is how I felt last year. But in the pandemic, 306 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I spent more time at home. I was able to 307 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: think about things and get my feelings in check, if 308 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: you will, and basically, I mean Heavily and I have 309 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: gone back and forth, back and forth, getting along not 310 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: getting along over the years since she started the show 311 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: on season two. As a matter of fact, she hated 312 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: me and Jackie when she started, we hated her. The 313 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: feeling was mutual, but over the years we had all 314 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: grown to be come close friends. But Heaviley and I 315 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: would get into it one top for a couple of 316 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: months on in our camera, and Jackie always gave me 317 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: her thoughts and opinions. She would tell me, I think 318 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be taking this stuff, Heavily saying too serious, 319 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be doing this, or you should be doing that, 320 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: And she always talked to both of us. This time, 321 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: my friend of twenty three years decided she didn't have 322 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: any words on it because I guess she didn't want 323 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: to hurt my feelings. But she knows me. She had 324 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: never been her tongue before, and you know that expression, 325 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: cat got your tongue, I'll just leave you with the cash. Well, 326 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, when y'all didn't have to sit down when 327 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: she said that she was gonna be it was on 328 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: camera that she didn't want to make a decision. She 329 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: want to make it and then you took that very personal. 330 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: And so I see, now you know Dr helth A Le, 331 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: who is a dentist, by the way, is uh is 332 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: reveling in this breakup. I think she's reveling and driving 333 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a wage between the relationship and personally and I persually, 334 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't think Jackie sees that. Am I correcting assuming 335 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: that I think Jackie is not eve or she's or 336 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: she has developed a wall of stubbornness just to say 337 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: that she's not gonna be bothered. So I don't think. 338 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: I definitely think Jackie is aware of what Heavenly is doing. 339 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: But Heavenly is also Jackie's bulldog, right, and so maybe 340 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: that is just a strategy that you'd rather have this 341 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: bulldog who defends you. Even on the days you're wrong, 342 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: She's still defending you with An interesting thing about my 343 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: show is called money Making Conversation. You are an entrepreneur 344 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: or small business, let's talk about that whole process of 345 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: dealing with because people want to hear theyboy show by 346 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: that what would you give and old starting to practice? 347 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: How would you hire people? I always tell people you 348 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: gotta have a great hr person when you gotta have 349 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: a great accountant. That's my early notes to anybody is 350 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: starting to start, especially accountant. Don't be sitting over there 351 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: talking to trying to do books about yourself and you've 352 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: never done books before. So as a as a as 353 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur who start up because you represent you know, 354 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: the fastest growing population and entrepreneurship or African American females. 355 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: And you are an African American female, you are star, 356 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: you are brand. Talk about being a small business owner 357 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: just when you started, but also now doing COVID nineteen. 358 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: What I would talk, what I would recommend for anybody 359 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: who is starting a business, do as much research as 360 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: you possibly can before you start your business. Know the 361 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: industry you're going into. Know some of the pitfalls of 362 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: the industry you're going into. And for me, I was 363 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: already practicing medicine before I opened up a business. You 364 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: can't even imagine how hard it's going to be until 365 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you actually open those doors. But I do agree with 366 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: you that you have to have an accountant who gives 367 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: you advice regularly. And what I like to say is 368 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: count all your pennies, look for your pennies, figure out 369 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: ways when you're buying supplies that you could save money 370 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: because you may be only buying from this supplier, but 371 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: then somebody over here has a cheaper Learn how to 372 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: build relationships so that when you need help you can 373 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: get help. You need a banking relationship, that relationship with 374 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: an accountant. You need relationships with people in the industry 375 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: who are doing the exact same thing you're doing, just 376 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: to get advice on the pitfalls when they actually happen, 377 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: how to get out of those pitfalls, and just know 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, you can always depend on 379 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: yourself in business for yourself. There you go. Now, when 380 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: one going closing question is about you didn't plan on 381 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: because we talked about budget, you said, always count your pinions, 382 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: no where every penny is. We did not think, and 383 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm a business owner. I did not see 384 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: masking my budget. I didn't see hand sanitizing my budget. 385 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: I didn't see working from home and my budget and 386 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: telling medicine. I'm sure we'll picked up strongly in your business. 387 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: But like I said, you're dealing with with you know 388 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: O B. G Ryan profession, So tell the medicine almost 389 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: like what is that? So how did that affect your 390 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: business model and also your employees. How did you work 391 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: through that? Like I was able to do teleconferencing because 392 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with graphics and a production company, But 393 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: you're in medicine. How did you deal with that? And 394 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: how did your patients deal with that? So definitely finding 395 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: PPE to purchase and purchasing PPE wasn't an additional expan 396 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: But what I tell any anybody who's in business for themselves, 397 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: always save for a rainy day, because if you have savings, 398 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: when you run into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't 399 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: be that big of a deal. So you either have 400 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: the savings or you have a credit line with the 401 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: bank available to help you in a in a financial needs. 402 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: But with staff, I tried to stay calm and try 403 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: to reassure them. For me, with pregnant patients, I was 404 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: not able to do all of the visits using telemedicine. 405 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: Surely we did some, but not all. And what I 406 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: did was we continue to come to the office. We 407 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: shortened the office hours, and I continue to make payroll 408 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: for the full forty hours a week. But again, just 409 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: looking for resources out there. There were a ton of 410 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: resources available to all businesses. I applied for the P 411 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: P P loan. My big bank didn't give it to me, 412 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: so I went to my small bank. And again I 413 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: have two banks. I have the big bank, I have 414 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: the small bank. Nobody told me to do it that way. 415 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: That is just one of those life lessons that I 416 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: learned early on in practice. And I've been in solo 417 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: practice since two thousand four. So you learn things, and 418 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: there are always gonna be hiccups and speed bumps. You 419 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: just have to learn something from every speed bump in 420 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the road. Well, you know, I gotta close, and I 421 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: said my last question, but I have to bring this 422 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: up because my wife is important in my life. You know, 423 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: when those speed bumps. As you're talking about those speed bumps, 424 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: you gotta turn to somebody for some truth and sometimes 425 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: for some advice. Sometimes that truth is not what you 426 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: want to hear, but it also comes with good advice 427 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: because you know that person is gonna be honest with you. 428 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: So I'm leaving my question to your husband, who plays 429 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: on an amazing support the role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor, 430 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of yours. I've always been a 431 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: fan of yours. And when you had that conversation with 432 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: your son when he was shooting the basketball. I was 433 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: over the roof with you because that was pure. That 434 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: was pure, honestly to me, you know, because it was 435 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: relatable to me, and uh and it and it and it, 436 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: and it was a seed that bore out of your 437 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: husband being there, because African American young men need that male, 438 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: that male. Look how to treat women, Look how what 439 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: you do in all these different situations. To talk about 440 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: your strong support group. You know, my man talked about 441 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: him right quick before we close it out. So Cecil 442 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: and I have been married for twenty five years and 443 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: he has definitely been a great sounding board when I've 444 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: asked him about business advice and he loves to do research. 445 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: But as any marriage goals, we have certainly had our struggles. 446 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Our marriage actually came to the brink of the brink 447 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: of a divorce, which I shared on reality TV, and 448 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: I was so thankful for this reality TV family who 449 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: helped us to realize that we were being stubborn. We 450 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able 451 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: not only to reconcile, but to make some differences in 452 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: our marriage so that we could keep on going in 453 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: and not just keep going, but keep going strong with 454 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for coming on money Making Conversations. 455 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I just want to really lay it on the line 456 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: because I know you do a lot of interviews, and 457 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I try not to be fake when I bring people. 458 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: I try to do my research, I try to acknowledge 459 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: the fact, and I try to give good questions to 460 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: allow you to move the conversation forward. But more importantly, 461 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I only want people in my shot. 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