1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: we've been trying. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: To get to for almost thirty years. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athlete to break barriers and set records. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 4: Caitlin Quark broke the all time single game assists record. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: and the community we create. Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: your host, Carrie Champion. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Naked Sports. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Carrie Champion Here. I am in LA and I've been 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: here for the last two weeks so I have been 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: using the LA Studios. I heard LA Studios, and I 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: love it. Everyone here is amazing. It's easy, it's convenient, 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: all of the things as long as you're willing to drive. 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: I will say this because you guys already know this. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I have been living back and forth between New York 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: and LA, but this last year I've pretty much made 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: New York my resting place in the sense that I 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: wanted to spend more time in New York just to 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: get a real feel of it. As it is January, 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be there because it's cold, the 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: COEO l E and maybe a d cold like right 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: cold of and so I've been in LA doing some things, 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: and so I love this studio. It's been great. So 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate being here and everyone making it happen. Shout 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: out to my producer, quis always willing to do some 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: wonderful things, a guy who's helping us here too, Thank 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: you friend. Today's podcast is hot topics. It's just hot topics. 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I had a couple of things coming off the weekend, 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the top of the year. Here we are just twelve 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: days into the new year, and there's so much already 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: to discuss. It doesn't take much time, though, to have 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: these kinds of conversations. So I'm going to tell you what, Hey, 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. We're doing a bit of 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: a tease. I have something to say about Meg Thee 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Stallion and Klay Thompson. While yes we know they've been 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: together for a while, something about that relationship, the reason 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: why we like it and the reason why women mainly 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: are really attracted to it and why men are being haters. 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I'll get into that. I really have a good theory 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: on that. I also want to talk about Lynn Jones, 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the reporter, the local reporter out of Jacksonville who works 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: for the Free Press, who decided to give a compliment 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: to a coach, a head coach, as he addressed the 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: media during the playoff after the playoff game. And it 49 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: was interesting because it's getting a lot of reaction and 50 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why, but people criticize this particular woman, 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: this reporter, veteran reporter, for what she said. Well, hear 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: what she said. And then I want to talk about 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: the Golden Globes. I think, honestly, I they don't really 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: watch award shows the way that I used to. I 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: enjoy them to see what people are wearing, right, that's 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: just the vain thing on my part. 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: I love to see what people are wearing. What are 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: you wearing? I'm interested. 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: But I also paid really close attention to the way 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: in which these celebrities are using their platform, and I 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: want to take a moment to tell them congratulations to 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: those who are being very bold and honest about what 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: they believe in and what they will participate in and 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: what they won't participate based on what's happening in our 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: world today. And I also think that it's really easy 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: to be like, my business is this, I'm focused just 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: on that and not delve into other worlds. It takes 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: a really brave, sometimes creative soul to take interest in 69 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: something that really could not affect them. And what I'm 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: saying is Hollywood delete. They don't have to be a 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: part of this. Traditionally creators, creatives are very motivated, politically active, 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: are activists in some form or fashion, and I want 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: to get into that. But before we do all of that, 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Da da da da, I just want to say thank 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: you again. 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: Podcast is doing really well. 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Surprisingly, there's so many podcasts and you think, okay, my 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: podcast is in viral every day every other day, but 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: it really is doing well. So I want to thank 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: you people who supported us when we were naked and 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: now that we are naked sports. But without further ado, 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: here we go, roll this sound bite and let the 83 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: hot topics begin. 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 5: How you doing today, Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News. 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: I just want to tell you congratulations on your success, 86 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 5: young man. You hold your head up all right, You 87 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: guys have had a most magnificent season. He did a 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: great job out there today, So you just hold your 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 5: head up, okay. 90 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: So Lynn Jones of The Free Press took about twenty 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: seven seconds to give Liam Cohen that compliment. Twenty seven seconds, 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: and for whatever reasons, it really rubbed people the wrong 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: way for her to tell the Jaguars head coach he 94 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: had a great year in her calling him a young man. 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the sound of her voice, maybe it 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: was something in me that felt like, oh that was nice. 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: That was my first reaction. And I'm pretty sure coaches 98 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: don't often hear that how good they're doing, and they 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: should be proud of themselves, and especially a journalist calling 100 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: a head coach a young man like you, go ahead, 101 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: young man, you did good. The way I received it was, 102 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I believe the way in which it was intended, which was, listen, 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: everything isn't great, life isn't great. You probably could have 104 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: done better. I know you're feeling a way every time 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: you come in this press room. But congratulations. That's all 106 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, is just congratulations, hold your head up. 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: You didn't do bad. I'm taking it. She's taking it 108 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: from my guess her perspective. That's the only thing I 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: can think of. But the point of the matter is, 110 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: here's the issue. It took twenty seven seconds and people 111 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: are in arms, and I honestly do not know why. 112 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: And I'm even sad about saying this. 113 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: My really good friend, who I'm getting ready to start 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: a podcast with, Jamel Hill, criticized this woman online and 115 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: people came for her. They did not like what Jamel 116 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: had to say, and she even addressed it on her 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: podcast today because she realized that she caused a bit 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: of an uproar. 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: Take a listen. 120 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: I can tell you how I was raised as a 121 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 2: journalist in this business. Number one rule that you hear 122 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: when you first start going to press conferences and first 123 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: start covering teams is you are not a fan. You 124 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: are not someone who is an extension of the team. 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: Your job is not to be a fan. Your job 126 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: is not to cheerlead, Your job is not to break. 127 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Your job is not to console. Your job is to observe, 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: put into context, tell people why things happen, get information. 129 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: That is what your job is. 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: We have been told this literally from the time that 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: we start. I know people don't do that anymore because 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: everybody has a tape recorder or they have a phone, 133 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: so they pick up one of these. We have been 134 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: schooled that into our brains. 135 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: We are not fans saying. 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: The argument was from others that as a journalist, you 137 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: should be neutral, you should be fair, you shouldn't take sides, 138 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: you should be impartial. The argument is that you took 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: out time for the one question or two questions you 140 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: may have had just to compliment this coach. Why is 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: that there was something about what she did that really 142 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: rubbed certain journalists a wrong way, a lot of journalists 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: for that matter. And I understand as a journalist you're 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: supposed to have certain relationships. I'm all good with that, 145 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: but I gotta be honest with you. I do not 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: believe there is a single journalist around that does not 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: have a relationship with someone they report on. And what 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean by a relationship, it could be I might 149 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: have to talk about you one day, and if I 150 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: do talk about you in terms of what you've done, 151 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: or analyze your opinion, or even if I'm just reporting 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the facts, it could be good or it could be bad. 153 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: But no matter what it is, I still have to 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: do my job. I can't take it easy on you. 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: That is usually the train of thought, I can't take 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: it easy on you, And perhaps people thought that this woman, 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Lynn Jones was taking it easy on this head coach, 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: on the Jags head coach. And I can understand why 159 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: the Jacks have not been great. They haven't had incs. 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a while since they've been great. 161 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: They are lukewarm at best, and there was a lot 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of disappointments. Obviously, people were upset with their quarterback. But 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: she wasn't talking to the quarterback. She was talking to 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: the coach, and maybe she was thinking speaking from a 165 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: coaching perspective, but I just don't understand why that upset 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: so many people. And heaven forbid, she takes twenty seven seconds. 167 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think about what she said. 168 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: It was twenty seven seconds. And the fact that this 169 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: is a trending topic leads me into something that I 170 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: don't I just don't feel like the media. I don't 171 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: think we're honest, you know, And I'm not necessarily speaking 172 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: for myself. I just feel like, and I'm not talking 173 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: about the media as a whole, So everyone understand what 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I am trying to say, I just don't believe that 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: people are honest about how they approach certain stories. I 176 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: know media members who go on dates with some of 177 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: the people they cover. I know media members who call 178 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: themselves journalists who have extra relationships with some of the 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: people they cover. I'll tell a story. I was dating 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: someone who was in the media and he ended up 181 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: getting fired from a job. I was dating someone while 182 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I was in the media, and he ended up getting 183 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: fired from a job. And I remember thinking I wanted 184 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: to be fair. I reported it to my bosses and 185 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I'm seeing someone he lost his job. 186 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I really don't want to cover this story because I 187 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: can't be impartial. That's the way you should handle it, 188 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: to me. But I don't sit on a high horse 189 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: and think I can't give compliments, I can't say something nice. 190 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's to me not considered objective, 191 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: like saying, hold your hand up, how you did a 192 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: good job. That's definitely your opinion. That's definitely subjective. Does 193 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: it affect the way she covers the story. I don't know. 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: I really don't know. I gotta be honest with you. 195 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't to me, it wasn't enough for everyone to 196 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: be up in arms. And today Lynn is you know, 197 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: she got her comments. She's saying what she gotta say. 198 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: She tired of y'all coming at her. She's like, I 199 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: said what I said, y'all making a big deal out 200 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: of nothing. 201 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: Take a listen. 202 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: I really I don't take no fence to it. 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: Listen. 204 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: I've been in this business more than twenty five years. 205 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: I've been in view from Barack Obama, Terry Bradshaw Toll. 206 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: What's my guy named Tiger Wood? So he can say 207 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: whatever you've worn about fake news. I am a member 208 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: of the Black Press n NPA, the National Newspaper Association 209 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 5: that's been around more than one hundred years. He can 210 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 5: call me fake all you want to, Honey, I've been 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: doing this for She. 212 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: Said what she said that I'm missing it. I really 213 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: truly am missing it. This is when you need somebody 214 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: to debate with. I'm missing what was so controversial about 215 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: the twenty seven seconds That was a compliment. And maybe 216 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm getting a little soft in my 217 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: old age, but I just I don't feel like there 218 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: was a conflict of interest. I don't feel And some 219 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, well, she took time away from 220 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: another important question. He only had so much time her 221 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven seconds. I promise you did not tank that 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: press conference. So let's just talk about specifically right now. 223 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: In a press conference, it's playoffs. Everyone is trying to 224 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl. That is the goal. 225 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: It's a crazy wildcard weekend, lots to talk about. Did 226 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: she cross the line when she said that this guy 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: had a good season and he shouldn't have any reason 228 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: not hold his head up. No, I don't think so. 229 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: So here it is eight wins, eight losses all time. 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Right now, here's as we come up. This season twenty 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty five, thirteen and four, finishing first in the AFC South, 232 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: clinching Division title, lost the wild card round to Buffalo 233 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Bills twenty seven to twenty four. Hold your head up. 234 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: You have nothing to be ashamed of. You did nothing wrong. 235 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 4: I don't know. Is she going the greatest coach in 236 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: the world. 237 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea why this is such an issue, 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: And to me, it's just more indicative of the energy 239 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: in the world today, especially in those press conferences, how 240 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: the media feels about certain things. Because there's nothing new 241 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: about this. Shout out to Lynn for standing here ground. 242 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that everyone is upset with you, but 243 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I want to move on from that hot topic to 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: another hot topic that might be really interesting to a 245 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of folks, the Golden Globes. People who listen to 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: the show may or may not watch the Golden Globes. 247 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, not a huge fan of the 248 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: Golden Globes or award show. I tap in and tap 249 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: out to hear certain speeches I'm always used to and 250 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: so are you. During the Golden Globe they always give 251 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: a speech, a speech that is usually about thinking whomever, mom, parent, agent, 252 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: family member's husband, wife, kid's agent, who knows whatever. If 253 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm repeating myself, but I without fail always love when 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: these celebrities decide to take the time to talk about 255 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: what they believe in, to be advocates, to really lean 256 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: into the space that we don't know much about them 257 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: because they always are playing or portraying a character. And 258 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: what I saw a lot of last night, And I 259 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this, nor do I 260 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: think it's awful, but what I saw a lot of 261 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: last night was indicative of the times that we are 262 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: living in. Last week, many people were outraged by the 263 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: shooting of Renee Good, a young woman who was shot 264 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: by an ICE agent. Talked on camera, as everything is 265 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: done today. It was January, to be exact, and it 266 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: was Renee Nicole Good in South Minneapolis, and it was 267 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: a protest, and ICE was conducting an operation as they do. 268 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: And then we see this footage from a phone and 269 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: other bystanders as well, right from bystanders phone, from an 270 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: agent's and ICE agent's phone that led up into the shooting. 271 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: And so now we know, at least to me, it 272 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: looked like she did not have to die. 273 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: Just my thoughts, she didn't have to die. 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: Maybe she could have been shot, Maybe they could have 275 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: shot at her tire because she was trying to drive away. 276 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I always think there are other ways in which it 277 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: could happen. I don't know. I'm not a law enforcement officer. 278 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: I always think there are other ways in which it 279 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: could happen. But since it has happened, there's been protests. 280 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: There's been rallies everywhere. I saw some in New York, 281 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: obviously in Minnesota, in minne Plus where it happened. The 282 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Secretary christyme announced that hundreds of more 283 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: federal agents would be sent to Minneapolis to basically contain 284 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: the demonstrators, and everyone from Trump's administration has said that 285 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the ICE agent was justified in the shooting and that 286 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: he didn't do anything wrong. In fact, this woman makes 287 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: you rest in peace was preventing this agent from doing 288 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: his job, and so it seems completely legal. Trump said that. 289 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: Christy Nome said that We've had commentators people come out 290 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: and say it depending on what side of the aisle 291 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: you are on, depending on your beliefs, depending on how 292 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: you see it morally, you were either for or against. 293 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: But again, this current administration said it was justified. And 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: since it's happened, there's been a lot of fallout, for 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, we have heard from people 296 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: saying that they are going to now boycott FIFA because 297 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: they are in fear of their lives when the World 298 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Cup comes to the United States of America. They don't 299 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: want to go to the World Cup because if you 300 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: are quote unquote someone of color or someone who could 301 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: be described as a potential immigrant that needs to be deported. Remember, 302 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: earlier this year or last year, the Supreme Court passed 303 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: a law that says guess what if you look like 304 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: the profile, these ICE officers have the right to pull 305 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: you over, detain you, question you, and talk to you. 306 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: So hear you hear things like that, and you think, 307 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: because they seem to be and I'm talking about ICE, 308 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: they seem to be operating without impunity, meaning they can 309 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: do whatever they want. It seems that way. I know 310 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: that's not the law, but it does seem that way. 311 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I can pull you over, I can take you out 312 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: of your car broad daylight. I can detain you, and 313 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I can hold you for as long as I see 314 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: fit if you fit a certain profile slash description, and 315 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't have to necessarily get you an attorney. I 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: don't have to provide you with some of the basic 317 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: legal tenets of what this constitution says you're entitled to. 318 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: And that's scary. That's scary for anybody. 319 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: So we have heard that ICE will be at certain 320 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: big events and I was just talking about one FIFA 321 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: when the World Cup comes here to the United States. 322 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: We have been told that the ICE agents will be 323 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: there for several reasons. One, we know that that attracts 324 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: an international audience, and in their mind, this would be 325 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: a ripe opportunity to find people who don't belong here 326 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: in the United States or who have been here illegally. 327 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: We've also heard that about the Super Bowl, especially with 328 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the announcement that Bad Bunny is going to be the 329 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: halftime show. I says they'll be there. Bad Bunny more 330 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: specifically has even said, I know you've heard this. The 331 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: reason why he didn't do his content that he had 332 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: this past year here in North America was because he 333 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: was concerned about his fan base and would they be 334 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: arrested and or considered illegal and or in trouble if 335 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: they attended one of his concerts, So he kept it 336 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, he kept it at home. So with 337 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: that being said, after this latest incident with Ice, because 338 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: we've seen them, there have been so many incidents. I'm 339 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: not just making that up. We've seen women, men, children 340 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: being attacked on camera, physically manhandled if you are a woman, 341 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: shoved around, pushed, abused was what it looked like looks 342 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: like to me anyway, And it also looks like there 343 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: is a level of anger and animosity that these agents 344 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: already have before they even start dealing with these people. 345 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: Rightfully, so they're dressed. 346 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: In this camouflage gear, sometimes mask around their face so 347 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: you can't see them, and they have descended on certain 348 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: cities and read havoc. That's what it looks like to me. 349 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps yes, doing their job, but definitely wreaking havoc because 350 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: the approaches act first, ask questions later, and when we 351 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: do get the details, when we do get these eyewitness 352 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: accounts and or details of people who have been detained, 353 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: it sounds scary. It sounds scary what they've been through. 354 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: We've seen some of these holding facilities. Scary. I'm not saying, 355 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: and I'll be honest with you, I'm not saying that 356 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: that the situation with the legal immigrants in this country 357 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: hasn't been out of control. 358 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: Yes it has. Yes. 359 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Does it need to be cleaned up, yes, does it 360 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: need to be contained, yes, But the way that it 361 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: was positioned, and this is what I hear for people 362 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: who voted for Trump and who are four ice, is 363 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: that it was positioned as this was the time to 364 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: get these criminals. Remember Donald Trump, bran on this, get 365 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: these criminals out of here. We got to get these 366 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: criminals out of here. And now we're realizing it may 367 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: be your neighbor's housekeeper. It may be your neighbor's nanny. 368 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: It may be someone who's been working with you for 369 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: twenty years doing odd, odd jobs around your house, someone 370 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: who works for a Maybe you have a job working 371 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: for a local service and you've been there for twenty 372 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: years and your customers have gotten to know you, but 373 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: they didn't know that you didn't have the right immigration status. 374 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Not to say that that is correct and that there 375 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: are certain people you should pick and choose, but by 376 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: and large, I do believe most people thought they were 377 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: going to be taking criminals off the streets. 378 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: I really do. 379 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: As opposed to seeing videos of ICE agents murdering women, 380 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: as opposed to seeing video of ICE agents taking in 381 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: little kids and separating them from their parents, as opposed 382 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: to seeing ICE agents battling people on the show streets 383 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: of Chicago, it's otherworldly disturbing for people who grew up 384 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: here in the United States of America. 385 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 4: It just is. 386 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Visually, you cannot watch that or not be shocked, or 387 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: scroll past it on your phone and I'd be like, 388 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: what is this? So I give you all that background 389 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: to say at the Golden Globes, which is an opportunity 390 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of artists to say how they feel 391 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: about what's going on in America. They're artists, they're creatives, 392 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: they feel, they empathize. I'm talking about myself too. I 393 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: consider myself an artist and I'm sensitive about my shit. 394 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to Erica, but I do so at the 395 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Golden Globes. Kevin Fraser, who is a longtime entertainment reporter 396 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: and anchor who does amazing, amazing job. 397 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: I know him well. 398 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: He's on Entertainment Tonight, hosts the show for years, and 399 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: he's been in the business, like I said, for decades. 400 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: He sees Mark Ruffalo walking down the I don't know 401 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: if you watch any television shows. He's been around forever. 402 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what of an actor he is. Maybe 403 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: he's A, maybe he's B plus. I don't know what 404 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: level of actor he is. But he's had many things 405 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: that you've watched. Most recently he had a show on 406 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: HBO Max I forget the name of it, but very popular. 407 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: So he's obviously nominated and he is there and Kevin 408 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Fraser goes, you look good Tonight, I saw you walking 409 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: in etc. 410 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 4: Etc. 411 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: So I want you to listen to how Kevin Frasier 412 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: poses this question, because it is about the entertainment of it, 413 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: all right, it's the Golden Globes. You're being honored. Listen 414 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: to Mark's response, and listen to how Kevin was able 415 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: to make the pivot. 416 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 6: Join now by Mark Ruffalo, who is a nominee tonight 417 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 6: and his wife Sonny, And I want to ask you 418 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 6: right off the bat, how much fun is it in 419 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: that room? Sitting there? You have a couple of contailers, 420 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 6: you hang out with everybody, and there's all kinds of 421 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 6: conversations going on. 422 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: It's usually a lot of fun. But I can't really, 423 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 7: I gotta be honest if yeah, I'm not feeling so great. 424 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 7: We have a woman, Renee Good, was murdered in our 425 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 7: streets of America today, and we got literally stormtroopers running 426 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 7: around terrorizing. And as much as I love all this, 427 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: I can't. I don't know if I can pretend like 428 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 7: this crazy stuff isn't happening. We have a president who 429 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 7: says the laws of the of the of the world 430 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 7: don't apply to him, and we could rely on his morality, 431 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 7: but he has no morality. 432 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: So where does that leave us? 433 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 7: Where does that leave the world? So I love these people, 434 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 7: I love being here. I love you, I but also can't. 435 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 7: It's so hard to pretend anymore. This is crazy. What's happening? 436 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 6: I have to ask you because I have family from 437 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: the Twin Cities, so I understand how how hard that is. 438 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: Right now. Well, lots of people are hurting right now. 439 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: And that's the problem is that the people are hurting. 440 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: To me. 441 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: That's bold. 442 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Mark joins a long list, growing list of actors who 443 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: have been speaking out about the conditions here in the 444 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: United States, what they like and what they don't like 445 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: about this current administration. But Mark, sitting from his actor's castle, 446 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: has decided to take up a cause that many people 447 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: are afraid to even talk about because they just don't 448 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: have the leverage, luxury, and or ability to do so 449 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: because they don't want to lose their jobs. And his 450 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: whole point is, we got to say something. It's crazy. 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: If we all continue to act as if this isn't happening, 452 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: we will find ourselves on the other end of something 453 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: that we can't reverse. And I am really surprised, I 454 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: just say him. I'm surprised when people are selfless. I'm 455 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: surprised when people who to me on the outside looking 456 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: in if I look at someone like this actor who 457 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: I know lives maybe lives comfortably, has money, has is 458 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: a director, he's in front of the camera, he's behind 459 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: the scenes, he has leverage in Hollywood for him to 460 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: be so bold and speak out. I wonder if he 461 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: is worried, which he clearly isn't, if he's worried about 462 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: losing his job, if he's worried about losing acting gigs 463 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: in the future, and if he is, he doesn't care 464 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: like right now. The cause that he is so concerned about, 465 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: the soapbox that he is standing on has to be 466 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: sturdy enough so that he can withstand whatever comes or 467 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: whatever repercussions follow for him speaking out. And I am impressed. 468 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I watch the way, even in my space, 469 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the way journalists hold back because they don't want to 470 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: be in that firing line of this administration. They don't 471 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: want to lose their job. They don't want their bosses 472 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: to pull them in the office because corporate America, especially 473 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: in media, is afraid. And then recently there was a 474 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: list that went around Hollywood where actors such as like 475 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: Javier bardin' Bardim. A lot of actors have signed and said, 476 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I won't work with certain people because I don't believe 477 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: in this cause. I refuse to do these jobs because 478 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't like what's happening currently with this administration. They're 479 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: picking and choosing. They're saying, I'm not going to be 480 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: a part of it, because if I'm a part of it, 481 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: I support you. To me, that is bold, bold, And 482 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: most recently with Renee Good, when this woman was murdered, 483 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: these these buttons were going around. These buttons were going 484 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: around Hollywood and specifically at the at the Golden Globes Awards. 485 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: At the Golden Globe Awards, and they say be good, 486 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Ice out. There's one that says be good as in 487 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Renee Good, and then ice out, as in no more ice. 488 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: And I saw a ton of them. Wanda Sykes, Tessa Thompson, 489 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: everyone had them strategically placed, because obviously you want everyone 490 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: to look at your dress or your suit, but they 491 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: were strategically strategically placed. Mark had his on his lapel, 492 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: Wanda Sykes had hers on her lapel, Tessa Thompson had 493 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: hers attached to her purse. And I thought to myself, 494 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: of look how active, look how aware these actors are, 495 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say, good for you in 496 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: a world where people think you are fake and false 497 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: and all you do is play other characters and you 498 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: have very little depth, often have been called vapid. These 499 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: folks are like, no, no, no, I'm putting. 500 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: This on a line. 501 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm standing up and speaking out, and in today's times, 502 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: that is bold to do it just is. 503 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: It's scary. 504 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Today's times are let me think twice before I say this, 505 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: let me weigh the pros and cons before I say this. 506 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: Today's times are let me just put my head down 507 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: and try to avoid this until it's over. Most people 508 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: take that approach, and there's nothing wrong with that. Some 509 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: days I do too. Some days I don't have the 510 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: energy for the ire. Some days I don't have the 511 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: energy for you to be mad at me and tell 512 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: me I shouldn't say that. Some days I don't have 513 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: the energy to battle Scott Jennings on CNN. Most days, 514 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: some days I just don't have the energy to talk 515 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: to people who are lying to me and pretending like 516 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: what is happening isn't happening. I just don't have the energy. 517 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: And that's okay. It's okay if you don't want to 518 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: speak out. But for folks in Hollywood who people often 519 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: dismiss as shallow and not honest and fake and phony, 520 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: when they decide to stand up, they do so. Mark, 521 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: thank you for your courage and leading. And it's not 522 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: lost on me that you are a white man leading 523 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: white presenting that to me, for whatever reasons, is what 524 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: we need more of. You can list the reasons. No 525 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: one's going to be surprised to hear me a black 526 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: woman saying I'm upset about something that's happening with our 527 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: country and I feel marginalized and or affected. That's not 528 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: a surprise, right, But to hear someone who who probably 529 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: seems to have it better than most and advantage in society, 530 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: at least historically speaking, he's having his time and his moment, 531 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: and he's using his platform to say I don't like it. 532 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: And I've watched the turn from COVID when we had 533 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: that racial renaissance to now. I remember seeing people being 534 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: at the forefront saying they want change. They were upset 535 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: to retreating and being quiet because they just don't feel 536 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: like it's worth it. Jennifer Lawrence, I don't know if 537 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: you watch her Hunger Games fame, right, that changed her life. 538 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence used to be very active tweeting, talking, interviewing, 539 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: saying it, and most recently they had a sit down 540 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: interview with her in The New York Times and she 541 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: just said, I don't think it's worth it. I don't 542 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: think people want to hear from me. So I've decided 543 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't make a difference. And in her mind, her words, 544 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't make a difference when a celebrity speaks out. 545 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: So she decided I'm not going to to deal with 546 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: the grief. And that's fine too, Jennifer, nothing's wrong with that. 547 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm just taking a moment out to say. The celebrities 548 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: at the Golden Globes were very very clear of what 549 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: they don't like, which is traditionally how Hollywood rolls. But 550 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: it's refreshing because in the media they're being quiet. A 551 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: lot of people who are journalists and or anchors are 552 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: being told by their bosses to walk the line, report 553 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: the facts, save the commentary, don't forget to present the 554 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: other side, which is true. But the problem is when 555 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: you present that other side and you don't call a 556 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: lie a lie, then what's the point, right, what's the point? 557 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: So Dosa Hollywood Dose of Activism. I was pleasantly surprised. 558 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Next step on our our topics and I mentioned this 559 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: was my last, but not least, this is really a 560 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: good one for me. I love I love Magna Stallion. Controversial, right, 561 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: very controversial to say I love Meg the Stallion. And 562 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: what do you mean Why is it controversial? Because there's 563 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: a group of people who would say Meg the Stallion 564 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: as we move into culture times sports, Meg the Stallion 565 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: is her lyrics are risque. A conservative person would say, 566 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't like when a woman speaks that way she's doing. 567 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: She's twenty twenty six version of Little Kim. She is 568 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: very well aware of her body and what it looks like, 569 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and she's always talking about it and talking about what 570 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: it's good about it, and it's good. I just love it. 571 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: I love the confidence. I love her beauty, and I 572 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: do love that whether she intends to do this or not, 573 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: I see her vulnerability. I see her insecurity, while I 574 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: also see the fact that she knows she's a bad girl, 575 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: she's a bad bish. Like while I know she knows 576 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: she looks good and got a nice body and got 577 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: money and is successful, I also see her insecurity and 578 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: her vulnerability, and when someone could let the two coexist, 579 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: when a woman who is of note can let the 580 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: two coexist, there is something very attractive about it, like 581 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: we're already there for the entertainment of Megan, right. I 582 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: think that when she went through that whole scuttle butt 583 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: with helped me out. Drack queis Trey what's his name? 584 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: It's not Trey Songs. I hate to do that. Trey 585 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Lane Layton, what is it Lane, Tory all the same? Yeah, 586 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: that guy, thank you, dra Quey's and you can leave 587 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: this in here. I had her look it up because 588 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I forgot Tory Lanes, Trey Torri, you know what I'm saying. 589 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm just real unty about it. But anyway, when it 590 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: was the shooting case and if she got shot or not, 591 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I remember a lot of people in the industry outside 592 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: of the industry didn't believe her. They just didn't believe her. 593 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: They said she was lying. She didn't get shot the 594 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: way in which she told the story. No one believed 595 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: she went to court, and I think that that was 596 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: whether I look, I don't know the particulars I was 597 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: not in the car. I listened to some of the testimony. 598 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I read some of the testimony when it was all 599 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: said and done. There were things that obviously went on 600 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: that everybody isn't talking about because everyone was trying to 601 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: save themselves. But here she is at a breakout point 602 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: in her career and she gets into this situation with 603 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Tory Lanez and she says, no, he shot me, he 604 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: shot my foot, he shot at me, he shot me, 605 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: and I'm pressing charges. And if I'm not pressing charges 606 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: because I ultimately believe that she had to testify because 607 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: the state was pressing chargers no matter what. 608 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: And it was. 609 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Really hard for her because there were so many people 610 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: in the industry saying that she lied and she's not 611 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: right in this, that and the third and I really 612 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: saw a bit of her retreat. That confidence was knocked 613 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: down a bit. She really saw the world differently. She 614 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: was being bullied and harassed online by a lot of 615 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: men who were just saying, look at you. You always try 616 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: to take a brother, Dawn, except you know the story, 617 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, you know what they say. 618 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 4: And then she comes out. 619 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: And she continues to make music, continues to live her life, 620 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: but then out of nowhere, which to me, and it 621 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: may not have been out of nowhere. In fact, I 622 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't out of anywhere. She is dating Clay Thompson, 623 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: and my sources tell me that she initiated contact with Clay. 624 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: She lives, she lives in Dallas or as a house 625 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: in Dallas. He plays for the Dallas Mavericks, and that 626 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: she had been interested in him for a while. Right, So, 627 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: if any of you know anything about Clay Thompson, his 628 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: father is Michael Thompson, used to play for the Lakers. 629 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: He's a local analyst here in Los Angeles. He comes 630 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: from Clay that is, comes from what seems to be 631 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: a very conservative family. It appears to be a conservative family. 632 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: When he was. 633 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: Playing with Golden State Warriors, he was known as the 634 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: guy who only dated models, Right, He was a modelizer, 635 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: whether they were supermodels or wanting to be models, maybe 636 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: Instagram models, maybe a combination of the two. And the 637 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: rap on Clay is that he is also a bit conservative. 638 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Can shoot the hell out of that thing, but he's conservative. 639 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: So to see this conservative print presenting basketball player dating 640 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: Meg the Stallion to me is like, hmm, that's interesting. 641 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: Hmmm. I wouldn't have saw that coming. 642 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: She seems got a little like for me anyway, I 643 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh, she got too much dip on her 644 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: chip to be with Oh boy, like she too fly? 645 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: She too she got too much swag. He might be 646 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,959 Speaker 1: too corny. I don't know, you know all the things 647 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: you say without knowing anything about the relationship. 648 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: How is she with him? 649 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what well, like, what's the deal? But 650 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: when I watch them together, and I'm no expert, but 651 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: it seems authentic and real. But what it allows her 652 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: to be is soft. 653 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: That's what y'all. She girla make this thing akt I 654 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: girl coach im bach, I am whispering because Klay is 655 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: still in his fool caming from last night. But let 656 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: me say, y ill was about cooking for my man 657 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: and his family the Thanksgiving. Okay, so this is me 658 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: getting my graens ready. I having things cooking overnight right here. 659 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: This is me getting my dressing ready. I do when 660 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: I call it sepfing bag because this is a dressing. 661 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: This is a Southern thing. I think. This is me 662 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: getting my chucky ready to beach already gave it a 663 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: bbo and jagged that thing up last night with all 664 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 3: the flavor. This is me getting my rule, my jewel, 665 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, for my mac and 666 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: she's ready. I'm really nervous because I was like, dang, 667 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm really gonna cook broil my man and his whole family. 668 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: I hope they love it because I got to show 669 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: them that I really love their son. 670 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: It allows her to feel it appears safe, and she 671 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: also appears to be a lover girl. She just want 672 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: to love on somebody. She wants someone to love her, 673 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: and she wants to love them back. She as you 674 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: will know, when she started to really blow up lost 675 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: her mother and her grandmother. I couldn't imagine, or I 676 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: could rather, if I'm being honest with you, I can 677 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: only imagine how lonely she feels if the family that 678 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: she's known her whole life is no longer there, that 679 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: core of her family. And what I mean by that, 680 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: a mother and a grandmother really have very important roles 681 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: in your life, male or female. These are defined roles 682 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: that will ultimately live with you for the rest of 683 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: your life. How they love you, how they treat you, 684 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: how they present you. And she, to me, if I'm honest, 685 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: had a bit of sadness on her, especially with that 686 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: whole Tory Lanez thing. She just had a bit of 687 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: sadness on her and she had a reputation that was 688 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: not good. And so now here she is dating this guy. 689 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: And in the beginning you hear, oh, he just was 690 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: looking for a little bit of fame. Nobody was checking 691 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: for him. He plays for the Dallas Mavericks. His career 692 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: is at the end of He's at the end of 693 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: his career. He's not with the Golden State Warriors winning championships. 694 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: He's not with the dynasty anymore. He's playing average. He's 695 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: just looking for some attention outside of the gym, if 696 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: you will. So that's why he's hollering at her, because 697 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: she's just too much for him. And on the other end, 698 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: you hear people saying about her. I can't make her 699 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: my wife. She couldn't be my main she wouldn't be 700 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: my girl because of X, Y and Z. How she talks, 701 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: how she dresses, how she presents, what she'd be talking about, 702 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: what she rap about. She's just too much. That's the 703 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: greatest compliment, ladies, by the way, if you ever been 704 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: told her too much. So as we watch this relationship, 705 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: because she is allowing us to see bits and pieces 706 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: that I don't think that we are really used to seeing. 707 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Like she's very raw and honest about who they are, 708 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: what the relationship is, how she might be getting on 709 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: his nerves on a Tuesday, what she's cooking for him. Although, Mick, 710 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you cooked that entire thingsgiving meal. I 711 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: hate to just be that girl like that because I 712 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: don't believe you. I don't believe it. You might have helped, 713 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: but you didn't cook that entire meal. I just don't 714 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: believe it. If you're listening, forgive me, I just don't 715 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: believe it. But she loves this man so much so, 716 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: and she says it every five seconds. She was like, 717 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: I gotta cook a meal because I got to show 718 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: you this his parents, how much I love this man. 719 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, she loved that man. And I think it's 720 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: beautiful to see. I think it's beautiful when we can 721 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: watch in real time, because this is what I think 722 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: we're witnessing. And I don't know if it's gonna last forever, 723 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you I'm rite in love with 724 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: him while they and they in love fase. One of 725 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: my sources who knows Clay well, thought that the relationship 726 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: was disappointing because of what Meg represented and what she 727 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: thought Clay represented. And if I'm honest with you, I 728 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: could say that I could see it being disappointing if 729 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: you know them. 730 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 4: I don't know them. 731 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know her, but they do something for one 732 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: another that's really special and I like it. I like 733 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: that more people are tuning into the NBA because we 734 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: have celebrities on the sidelines that have more of a 735 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: vested interest. Since the beginning of time, singers and rappers 736 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: have been dating athletes. They all come together. 737 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 4: It works. 738 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: I can go down a list of relationships that we've 739 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: seen make it and not make it. The oldest one 740 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: that I can think of is Tama and Grant Hill, 741 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: Like they're still together. 742 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: That was the thing. 743 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: People were excited to see that relationship. Dwayne Wade and 744 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: Gabby Gabrielle union, that's a relationship. And then there's bits 745 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: and pieces we got, you know, Brandon Ingram and Gloilla 746 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: now lay together. 747 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 4: That's cute. 748 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to work. I don't know much about them. 749 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: They're not taking everything to social media. But the list 750 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: goes on and on. It happens all the time. But 751 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: this relationship in particular, the reason why we were paying 752 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: so much attention because Meggie is a superstar, Two because 753 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: Clay is an unlikely subject. Three because she was very 754 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: much interested in him, and she said she put the 755 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: interest out there, and she said, he's unlike any man 756 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: she's ever been with before. He's sweet, he's kind, he 757 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: just handles her with care, and at the end of 758 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: the day, that's all she was looking for. And the 759 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: more and more I watch her with him, the more 760 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: soft she becomes, the more attractive to me she becomes. 761 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: The more we can see what love can do if 762 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: it works right. And at the end of the day, 763 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm all for the love. If it's healing her and 764 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: making her feel better and centering her and giving her 765 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: confidence in areas where she was insecure, have at it. 766 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: If Clay is feeling a little more swaggy and he's 767 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, okay, I'm not you know what I'm saying, Okay, Clay, 768 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: you got it, because no one was checking for Clay 769 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: thinking that he was swaggy. I don't care how famous 770 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: he is, I don't care how much money he has, 771 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't care how long he's been in the NBA. 772 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in my 773 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: life heard a girl say, you know who I want 774 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: to holler at Clay Thompson. Not that he's not attractive, 775 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: but he just wasn't on the list. Steph okay, Steph Curry. 776 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: That is Draymond Green. Yeah he's married, but you can 777 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: you see something about that Thuggage work and ye okay, 778 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: I like it. 779 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 4: Of course. 780 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: You know, I can go down a list of athletes 781 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: that people like and he's on their top tier dating list. 782 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 4: Clay was not. 783 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: He just wasn't great guy, lovely guy. Not I've interviewed 784 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: him a million times, just not somebody you're like, ooh, 785 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet him later and just be like. 786 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 4: Hey baby, hey, say baby, hey hey, you just not 787 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 4: like that. 788 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: So I like this relationship and and I hope that 789 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: the love is mutual, and if it's not, so be it. 790 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: But right now it looks good on Megan, and I'm 791 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: happy for her. I'm happy for this. This young lady 792 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: who I thought from Afar was very confident, but was 793 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: very very much in a state of repair, not trusting, angry. 794 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: You can read that when people are not trusting and 795 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: angry and mad all the time, and she feels like 796 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: a joy. She feels like a joy. So I wish 797 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: out the best of luck. Y'all lead him alone. Now, 798 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: speaking of joy and love, this is what I don't 799 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: want to see with Meg. And I gotta be honest 800 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: with y'all because if I see this, I don't know 801 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with myself. Have y'all heard of 802 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: that latest trend? Yeah, that one. I'm talking about. That 803 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: one I'm not proposing to a man. Look I listen, listen, listen, listen, Linda, 804 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: you ladies. 805 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: Are out here. 806 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: Imagine me getting home from a long day of work, 807 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: right doing all the things that I need to do, 808 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: saying all the things that I need to say, taking 809 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: care of my friends and my family, and doing all 810 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: the things that are needed to be done. And then 811 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, My man is taking a 812 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: long time to pop that question. Let me just let 813 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: me nudge him in that direction. Yes, ladies do it 814 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: all the time. Drop hints, send photographs of rings. They'd 815 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: my guy. I say, I was saying to him, Hey, 816 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't really need a big You know, 817 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: this is my hint. 818 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 4: I don't really need a big wedding. I already had that. 819 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll read a big wedding. We can just keep it 820 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: real low invite your family because they're important to you, 821 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: and then we just have a big party. You know, 822 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: we just exchange our viles, so we keep it just 823 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: low key. Everybody ain't got to listen to you because 824 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: he's very you know, uncomfortable sharing his feelings. But yeah, 825 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: let's just keep it real low key. That's that's it. 826 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: I'll bring up the conversation. 827 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 4: That's it. 828 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: You make the move. Ladies are proposing to men left 829 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: and right. I literally said this last year. Let this 830 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: not become I'm a trend. And I don't know if 831 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 1: it's AI, I don't know, if I don't know, if 832 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: you men are just tired. 833 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 4: I don't get it. 834 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: Women are proposing to men. Meg, and I can totally 835 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: see Meg doing that. Meg, We're not doing that. Let's 836 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: stop this before it becomes a real thing. 837 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 4: Let's stop it. I've said this before. Let's stop it. 838 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: There's no way on God's green earth women should be 839 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: getting down on bended knee and proposing. I look, I'm 840 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: all for. Then you hear some knucklehead in the background saying, 841 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: I thought you wanted women to have equal rights, and 842 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: women deserve equal rights, and everybody got to be equal. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. 843 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm not paying for the I'm not paying for the dinner. Okay, 844 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm not paying for the dinner. And I'm not proposing. 845 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: There are some things that need to go back to tradition. 846 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: Because women always want to be in love. This is 847 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: my thought process. Women always want to be in love, 848 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: They always want to be in a relationship. Women are 849 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: all about the emotions. Women are consistently in that space. 850 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: But I tell you what, if women start thinking it's 851 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: okay to propose these men who. 852 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 4: Already think they're the prize. What we're gonna do with 853 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 4: a man? When names start being the divas? What what 854 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 4: is we gonna do? That is the end of the 855 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 4: human race as I know it. 856 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: If women start start thinking it's okay to propose to men, 857 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: I said, human race is over. You got me, It's done, Fnido. 858 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: We ain't doing it. We ain't having it. The story 859 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: goes that I am an Olympian and after I finish 860 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: practice or finish winning a meet, I run all the 861 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: way around. I beat everyone I'm holding up my medal 862 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: and I'm all like, yo, let me propose to my man. 863 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Stop it. Stop it, ladies, 864 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: I don't want you to win your w NBA championship. 865 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: And Asia Wilson turned to Bam and said, thank you 866 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: so much for being here for me. Let me go 867 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: ahead and drop down on one d and propose after 868 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: she wins the championship or the MVP Award. No, we're 869 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: just we're not doing that. We're not doing it. Okay, 870 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: my man was a super Bowl and I'm so excited 871 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: and we're all celebrating on the field, and the girlfriend 872 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: just Taylor Swift just drops down on one knee and 873 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: proposes to Travis Kelsey. We aren't doing it. In fact, 874 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm starting a small group, putting a group together of goons. 875 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: And each time I see a woman, each time I 876 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: see a woman do that, I'm gonna find out her 877 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: phone number and her location and I'm just gonna push 878 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: her down. I'm gonna keep her down on one dy. 879 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna push her down and tell her get 880 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: her mind right. 881 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 4: What the hell is going on? This is not a thing. 882 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: Some things have to remain the same hardline cut to 883 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: me proposing. 884 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 4: I'll come back here a month from now. 885 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: Blad y'all. 886 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 4: This is something came over. I was like, say, baby, 887 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 4: say let's do this. 888 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: You have every right if you ever hear me say 889 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: something like that, you have every right to snatch my way. 890 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: You have every right to push me down some stairs. 891 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: If you ever hear that I proposed, you have every 892 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: right to do that. Knock me back into my right place. 893 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: All right. 894 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: With that being said, those are my hot topics that 895 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: I have to get off my chest. I really appreciate 896 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: you for being here and weigh in. I honestly really 897 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: appreciate when I hear from you all, at least underneath 898 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: the comments. Underneath I am not proposing to you a man, 899 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: and I want to hear these knuckleheads who think that's okay. 900 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm just not doing it, and y'all not doing it either. 901 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: Y'all not doing it. I talk to my producer about this, 902 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: how she feels about it. Women proposing to man. She 903 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: probably she's so forward thinking. She probably thinks not a 904 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: big deal. I think it's a big deal. I'm not 905 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: doing it. All right, y'all tune in next week when 906 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: we have a special guest on the show. She says, no, 907 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 1: good break down this this fourth wall, if you will, 908 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: she says, no. 909 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 4: Thank goodness. 910 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: Common sense is somewhere underneath this, Matt, somewhere in this 911 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: computer shaking out this common sense? Where are you at? 912 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm get on my nerves. Taught to y'all next week. 913 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Naked Sports. Naked Sports written 914 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: and executive produced by me Carrie Champion, produced by jacqueses Thomas, 915 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: sound design and mastered by Dwayne Crawford. Naked Sports is 916 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: a part of the Black Effect podcast network in iHeartMedia