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Speaker 1: What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out

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Speaker 1: Collins Feed. But before we talk football, Maria, my fiance

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Speaker 1: up guaranteed wins. But what we've seen the Commander's offense

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Speaker 1: through the first three weeks, or excuse me, the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks, I think they've punted once. Brown's at home,

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Speaker 1: Panthers at home, Bears at home. They're gonna be favored

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Speaker 1: in all three of those games. Okay, cough on campus

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Speaker 1: love doing this watch. I love watching Saturday football, Like

438
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Speaker 1: Sunday football is a little not stressful, but I just

439
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Speaker 1: feel so obligated to keep track of absolutely everything going on,

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00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: taking notes, getting ready for Colin, then getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the night game, and putting shows together. Saturday is much

442
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Speaker 1: more like play golf in the morning, work out in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and have some beers, have some cocktails and

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Speaker 1: just just kind of enjoy it but still gamble on

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Speaker 1: it and just have a good time and tweet about

446
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Speaker 1: it and text my friends about it. But Saturday night

447
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome that place. What a cool game like

448
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: it felt when Georgia Alabama. I mean I turned on

449
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: the game with like thirty minutes intro, and I never

450
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: watch College is different, but like in the NFL, I

451
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Speaker 1: don't watch pregame shows, no shade at anyone on them.

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Speaker 1: It's just I'd rather do something else of my time.

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Speaker 1: When the game starts, it starts. But in college, the

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Speaker 1: build up of game day, they had Saban on the set,

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Speaker 1: They had game Day on campus, like literally before the game,

456
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Speaker 1: Reese was Joey Galloway or Desmond Howard and Saban.

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Speaker 2: It just felt really, really big.

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Speaker 1: And I saw today that the ratings for that game

459
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Speaker 1: was the highest rated primetime game in seven plus years,

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Speaker 1: which happened to also beat Alabama against Florida State. But

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Speaker 1: that was opening weekend. So to get a game with

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Speaker 1: that much buzz, that much hype toward the end of September,

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Speaker 1: a conference game, it just felt special. And then the

464
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Speaker 1: way it started, your job is dropped. Like listen, you

465
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Speaker 1: guys know where I stand on Kaylin duboor.

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Speaker 2: But to go up that fast.

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Speaker 1: And just you start thinking, are they gonna beat this team,

468
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Speaker 1: like fifty to ten, and then for Georgia to come back,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're down thirty three to fifteen with ten

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Speaker 1: minutes left to go in the game. You got Carson

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Speaker 1: Beck who just had one of the worst resume building

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Speaker 1: games you'll ever see. When it mattered like that was

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Speaker 1: a negative, not a positive. I don't care what happened

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter with NFL scouts, But then Williams

475
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Speaker 1: at the end to make that play seventeen years old.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. It really was.

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Speaker 1: And I think college football right now be now those

478
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: teams have always you know, they don't play each other

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Speaker 1: every year because they're on separate sides of the division.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they have a divisions anymore. But

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I do think as we

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Speaker 1: consolidate more and more, you'll just get more of that,

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Speaker 1: and Collins talked about it, Me and him talked about

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Speaker 1: on his pod a couple of weeks ago. You can't

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Speaker 1: really argue that these matchups are just better. I mean

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Speaker 1: even Wisconsin USC Wisconsin is not very good, but they

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Speaker 1: came to play and they were winning the game in

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Speaker 1: the first half, and you start thinking yourself, is USC

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Speaker 1: gonna drop this game? This is really gonna happen. And

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Speaker 1: before that might have been you know, USC Arizona State,

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Speaker 1: which I do miss, but I.

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Speaker 2: Can't be.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know the right way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: I just have to be honest and say this way

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Speaker 1: is better and it's only going to get better. And

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Speaker 1: then I read a headline today that and listen, I

497
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Speaker 1: would say, you know, Calen Dubor doesn't need to win

498
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Speaker 1: the NAT this year, right, I would say that game

499
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Speaker 1: alone was just a pretty incredible moment. He makes the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he wins a playoff game, that's an incredible start. Replacing

501
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: a legend Steve Sarkisian because he turned down Alabama last year,

502
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: gets a huge contract extension and clearly resurrected that program.

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Speaker 1: And I've been hard on sark a lot of years,

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Speaker 1: I still given the old rules, I wouldn't like them

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Speaker 1: as much because I think it's very difficult for the

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Speaker 1: way he coaches to establish a super hard physical identity.

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Speaker 1: I think it's always kind of been a problem for

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Speaker 1: him on defense. But because of nil and he has

509
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Speaker 1: one of the largest budgets, he can just buy his

510
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Speaker 1: way there and listen, the rules are the rules, and

511
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: he's taken advantage of him. But you could argue the

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Speaker 1: guy that has the most of the line and they're

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Speaker 1: technically the betting favorite right now, is Ryan Day. I

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Speaker 1: would say anything less than being in the National champion

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Speaker 1: Game is going to be a huge disappointment for that program.

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Speaker 1: So you could argue that he has more pressure on

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Speaker 1: him than anyone else. And the way Oregans look this year,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine when they end up playing Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: gonna be favored and win that game. Ohio State's not

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Speaker 1: losing to Michigan. They're probably gonna run the table in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten and then the Big Ten Championship game

522
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Speaker 1: and be the one or two seed coming into you know,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, So that the pressure, it's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: a mess. And obviously they're really, really good I mean

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Speaker 1: they got they got an NFL roster because like Texas

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Speaker 1: and Oregon, like they have incredibly high NIL budgets, and

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Speaker 1: if you have a high NIL budget, might as well

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Speaker 1: take advantage of him by the sweet players. So now

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Speaker 1: who am I taking? Because I was thinking about this,

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Speaker 1: de bore three of his last four games he beat

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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, who he could see in the playoffs. He's

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Speaker 1: beat him three times. He beat Sark as an underdog

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Speaker 1: with you know, probably man for man, pretty equal teams,

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Speaker 1: and then he just also equal teams, kicked Kirby's ass.

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Speaker 1: I know the final score was close, but thirty three

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Speaker 1: to fifteen with ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Well,

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Speaker 1: the one guy that beat him, Jim Harbaughs now in

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. So what game is Alabama going into with

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Speaker 1: this head coach and having a disadvantage. Now, they might

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Speaker 1: not have guy for guy as good of a team

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Speaker 1: as Texas or Ohio State, but I've seen him beat

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Speaker 1: Sark in a game as an underdog with I mean

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Speaker 1: no defense and Ryan Day. I'm sorry, Like, if you

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Speaker 1: gave the top twenty five programs in this country, ad

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to hire one of those two guys, I

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Speaker 1: think it'd be like ninety percent. De More. Not saying

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Speaker 1: that Ryan Day isn't good, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he can build something from scratch. I've seen Kaitlin do

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Speaker 1: that at Washington from nothing to something two years later

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Speaker 1: in the Natty. Well, I'm seeing Debor right now take

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Speaker 1: over a program that was he was born on third

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Speaker 1: base Alabama and he's kicking ass and taking a name.

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Speaker 1: So he's doing exactly what Ryan Day's doing. I take

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Speaker 1: Debor all day long over him. So I think if

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Speaker 1: you're an Alabama fan, if you're an if you're another

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Speaker 1: fan of an SEC team.

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Speaker 2: Like they got it right. Man, that guy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he plays Kirby ten times, He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna he's not gonna beat him ten times, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's every bit is equal immediately Boise State. Now, listen,

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Speaker 1: what Travis Hunter is doing end up being the Heisman, no.

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Speaker 2: Issue with it.

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter probably should be the Heisman, just based on

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Speaker 1: the guy and never comes out of the game and

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Speaker 1: he's just an incredible player. The powers that be, the

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Speaker 1: elites in college football, and listen, I've lived it being

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Speaker 1: a non Power five guy. When I worked at President State,

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Speaker 1: I get you look down upon the smaller conferences. They

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Speaker 1: don't play the same schedule, they don't generate the revenue,

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Speaker 1: they don't do the TV ratings. But Ashton genty at

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Speaker 1: Boise State right now, he has eighty two carries for

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and forty five yards. For those of the

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Speaker 1: non math majors out there, he's averaging over ten yards

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Speaker 1: of carry and he has thirteen touchdowns. They've played four games.

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Speaker 1: I understand the schedule. He's playing Washington State, even though

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Speaker 1: he lit up Oregon. The teams he's playing are not

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Speaker 1: gonna be Georgia, Bama, LSU, will not get the notoriety

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I get it. This guy's fucking incredible. He really is.

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Speaker 1: If you want to watch him, just go to YouTube

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Speaker 1: and type in his highlights. He had a run in

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Speaker 1: that Washington State game, broke like three tackles, ran away

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Speaker 1: from another guy, carried a guy into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: My comp for him, because I've heard he's like five

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Speaker 1: six five seven is darren Sprolls and darren Sprolls twenty.

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Speaker 2: Plus years ago, was draft in the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: Now football in the NFL used to discriminate a lot

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Speaker 1: against little guys, especially twenty plus years ago. I think

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Speaker 1: we do less and less now, partly because catching the

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Speaker 1: ball is a big deal and his receiving numbers aren't

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Speaker 1: great because just handing the ball. But he's proven in

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Speaker 1: previous years he's a true junior he can catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: Last year he had five receiving touchdowns. I think this guy.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I understand not taking a five to seven guy in

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Speaker 1: the first round, but to me, this guy feels like

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Speaker 1: a lock somewhere between thirty three and forty five. And

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Speaker 1: this guy's going to play in the NFL. Google Autlong,

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00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: darren Sproles played in the NFL. This guy is a stud.

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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this a little bit early earlier,

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Speaker 1: but the Big Ten and the SEC powers that be

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Speaker 1: are meeting in Nashville next week to discuss the scheduling alliance.

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Speaker 1: We can see this coming from a mile away. It

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Speaker 1: starts with every year, all of our teams play all

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Speaker 1: of your team's one game in the non conference, and

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Speaker 1: it basically leads into we're just under one umbrella. Now,

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Speaker 1: think of what the NFL does, right. You got four

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Speaker 1: divisions in the NFC, you got four divisions in the AFC. Well,

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Speaker 1: every year an NFC division rotates the four different divisions

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. For example, this year, the NFC East

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Speaker 1: is playing the AFC North, the NFC West is playing

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Speaker 1: the AFC East, and so on. And then every year

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Speaker 1: you play a new division. So obviously you play your

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Speaker 1: divisional opponents. You play a rotating division. In the NFC,

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Speaker 1: you play your strength of schedule opponents, and you're just

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Speaker 1: constantly rotating through the league. So over the course of

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, anyone knows this as a season

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Speaker 1: ticket holder in the NFL, like, you see a good

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Speaker 1: mix of teams over the years. And I think one

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Speaker 1: issue for college football is listen, me and Colin and

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Speaker 1: point Lane and then he goes on lose to Kentucky

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Speaker 1: though Kentucky easily, could it be Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not bad. And I saw some people.

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Speaker 1: Like tweeting it me see this is why you know

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Speaker 1: I give Ryan Day and the Big Ten. It's like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think the SEC is better than the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the high end are pretty much equals. On a

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Speaker 1: given year, the top two or three teams. You can

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Speaker 1: kind of have them stare at each other. But I

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Speaker 1: do think teams four through eight in the SEC consistently

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Speaker 1: have more NFL guys, specifically defensive linemen and defensive backs,

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Speaker 1: so when you get them on the right day, it

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Speaker 1: makes them difficult. Why did Kentucky give Georgia and then

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Speaker 1: Lane trouble? They have NFL defensive linemen right, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of them, just like a lot of teams in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. And I'm not like pro SEC anti big ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I think the middle tier of

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Speaker 1: the SEC is better than Wisconsin, is better than Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll take Kentucky over those programs, not necessarily like

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Speaker 1: in theory like Wisconsin should be a cooler football program,

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty four, those programs, the players which

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Speaker 1: they get, I feel more confident in them in terms

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Speaker 1: of judging the depth of your conference. But I want

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00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: to see these schools play each other. If you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the SEC half, their programs refuse to

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Speaker 1: play anybody beside the SEC games because they go, well,

647
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Speaker 1: look at the SEC schedule and you got lanes scheduling.

648
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: You know Col Paly, Arizona School of the Mines, and

649
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: you know the School of the Blind and the Deaf,

650
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you play real games,

651
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: like we didn't even know if you're good or bad.

652
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we know they're not as probably as bad

653
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: as they looked, but.

654
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: They're not as good as they've looked either.

655
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: So why Tennessee gets so much credit when they kick

656
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: NC State's asked and they go on the road and

657
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma, and I know Oklahoma's now in their conference,

658
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: but no one cared that they were up sixty five

659
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: to nothing against Kent State. Nobody cared because it's just

660
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: a relevant game and the faster we can get away

661
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: from all this, Like, those games should not exist, I've

662
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: said forever. The Boise States, the President States, the San

663
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: Diego States, Appalachian State before.

664
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: They bumped up.

665
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: I got no issue with you playing a game against

666
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: those guys, But playing the D one double A opponents

667
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: is an embarrassment to everyone involved, to your players, to

668
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: your administration, to your fans.

669
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: It's useless.

670
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: Imagine if, like, you know what, the Steelers are gonna

671
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: play a USFL team this week, It's like they they

672
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: need to breather before they play the Ravens. That's essentially

673
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: what's happening here?

674
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: It really is. So I.

675
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Think there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Now,

676
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: how we get there, how fast we get there? Who knows?

677
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: This is college football and anytime you get college athletics

678
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: and the NC DOUBLEA and it's it's a rocky road.

679
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: But I do think we will get there sooner than later.

680
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: When I had my guy Derek Ray on the podcast

681
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: the GM of Florida State, he was in good spirits.

682
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: He was in good spirits. It was the offseason. They

683
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: just went thirteen and one. They had produced I think

684
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: six guys in the top eighty picks, obviously multiple first rounders,

685
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: multiple second rounders. That team they had last year was really,

686
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: really good. And if it wasn't for Jordan Travis having

687
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: his leg snapped, I don't think it's inconceivable that they

688
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: could have won a playoff game. They definitely would have

689
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs. Would they have been the worst

690
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs, probably, but still they had NFL

691
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: guys at key positions like Derek, and I think he's

692
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: good and I think Norvelle's good. But they did make

693
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: a devastating decision. Now, part of it is I don't

694
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: know all the details else who they wanted, how much

695
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: money they're getting. You know you want cam Ward, but

696
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: he's being offered more by Miami. The head coach ain't

697
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: the guy right in the checks. I do think getting

698
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: into bed with dj Unglula was pretty stupid at the time,

699
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: and obviously it looks worse now, but they were thrown

700
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: somewhat of a bone.

701
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: He got injured. He should never play again for their program.

702
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't care who their backup is. Obviously the backup

703
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: starting this week because he broke a couple fingers. They

704
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: play Clemson. There's a pretty good chance Florida State is

705
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: one in five. And I think you got to be

706
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: very careful at certain positions, specifically quarterback, when you go

707
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: to the transfer portal. If you get the wrong guy. Now,

708
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I think most people listening would say, God, what are

709
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: you guys talking about.

710
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: We've watched DJ for years.

711
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: He stinks.

712
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: I agree.

713
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that I would not have done that.

714
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: They were high on him for whatever reason.

715
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: He's clearly a good kid.

716
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: People like him, but he can't play quarterback. I mean,

717
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: he has six interceptions this year and four touchdowns, But

718
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't think and he's almost fifty percent completion percentage.

719
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: It's like barely over I think he's like fifty two

720
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: or fifty three percent. But when you watch him, those

721
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: numbers that I just rattle off feel like that feels

722
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: like Dan Marino dropping those numbers compared to what you see,

723
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: because when you see him, you go, is this legitimately

724
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: the worst player in Power five or Power four at quarterback?

725
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Like it feels like you could make that argument that

726
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: there can't be five guys playing worse than this guy.

727
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Now you can say their offensive lines, underachieving, whatever you want.

728
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Just watch him play. He's gone awful and you just

729
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: got to get out of this business. And I think

730
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: the one thing you got to be careful with is

731
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: when you do cut a check for a guy whatever

732
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: that might be one hundred grand, five hundred grand, whatever,

733
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: If that guy can't play, your nil and your money.

734
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: People have to realize, like, if you're all in on

735
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: me and listen, gonna make mistakes happens in the NFL

736
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: all the time you signed bad contracts, guess what will happen.

737
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: That guy will get benched, that guy will stop playing.

738
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Got to be able to do that in college football,

739
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: and then like in the NFL, where you get multi

740
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: year contracts, like how do we figure this out? You

741
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: just kind of bench him.

742
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: And move forward.

743
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: In college football, it's really just based on a year.

744
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: You gotta have a quick trigger finger because when it's

745
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: completely obvious, there's one thing to like hit a rocky

746
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: road like rough game. But if after two and a

747
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: half games, I thought they should have benched the guy

748
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: halfway through the cowgame, which they got very very lucky

749
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: to win. So I just I think the nil. I

750
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: gave a lot of props to Unov because I'm still

751
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: reading thing pieces is college football gonna crumble? They literally

752
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: let the guy walk because he's from Holy Cross, and

753
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: they said, we're not paying you one hundred grand. We

754
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: honestly don't even think you're that good. They let him walk.

755
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: They won their next game against a three to one opponent,

756
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: fifty nine to fourteen. My friend of state Bulldog's got

757
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: ransacked and the guy they threw in there accounted for

758
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. Thank god they didn't give Sluka one hundred

759
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: grand would have been a waste of money, So you

760
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: got to allocate your funds. Saban said it on game

761
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: day a couple of weeks ago, He's like, listen, you

762
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: pay the wrong players. You got problems. And eventually, at

763
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: these big programs with these huge budgets, some guys you

764
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: pay are not gonna work out, are not.

765
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: Going to be very good.

766
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to bench, are gonna be below average

767
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: players for you. But everyone better be on the same

768
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: page as like, hey, the money's already spent, or hell,

769
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: stop paying them, we'll get into legal action whatever. But

770
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: you can't keep rolling a guy out there just because you're.

771
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: Playing him a couple hundred thousand dollars.

772
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: Because that will be the downfall of your season. And

773
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: I think the downfall of Florida State season was giving

774
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: a guy a little money. And I honestly have no

775
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: clue how much they gave him. I would doubt he

776
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: got like a million bucks.

777
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: But even if they gave.

778
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Him three four hundred thousand dollars, you spend it. Let's

779
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: move on bench the guy. I don't care what you

780
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: think of the backup. He can't be worse than what

781
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: you're rolling out.

782
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Middlecoff mail back time.

783
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: You guys know the drill at John Middlecoff At John

784
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: Middlecoff fire in those dms.

785
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: Get your question.

786
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Answered here on the show from my guy Caesar, long

787
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: time big fan. With Devonte requesting a trade and Raiders

788
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: shopping him around, by the time you're listening to this,

789
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: he might be on a different team. Wouldn't it make

790
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: sense to see what the Jets would give up? Maybe

791
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: even throw in Reddick, pair him with Crosby and Wilkins.

792
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: Seems like all parties win. I think if you're the

793
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Raiders and I saw Albert Breer, if you factor in

794
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: age in recent form. Now, part of his recent form

795
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: is because the quarterback situation, I think he's a better

796
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: player right now than Keenan Allen, but Keenan I think

797
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: win for a fourth obviously big salaries too, that'd be

798
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: tough to stomach. Now would you take would you rather

799
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: have Reddick and a fourth or just try to get

800
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: the desperation out of the Jets and hope to get

801
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: like a I don't know, a third that turns into

802
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: a conditional second. Like the thing with Reddick. Do you

803
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: want to pay him and then just go all on

804
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: your defensive line? You still need draft capital to try

805
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. So now, could you sign Sam

806
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Darnold this offseason, Flacko, maybe you know.

807
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's complicated.

808
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: I think if you're trading him, you're not really looking

809
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: for a player.

810
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: Would be my thing. You want draft picks, It's about

811
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: the big picture.

812
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you've gotten this question from another Niners

813
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: fan already, But would you trade BA for a second?

814
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: BA in a second for divine to Adams?

815
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Well you can't now.

816
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: Because they just paid him a huge signing bonus. So

817
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: once you sign a contract, like Brandon almost said, Brandon Ingram,

818
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk is gonna be on the night.

819
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: He's not a tradable player. So this is where the night.

820
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: I think the mistake the Niners made. If they could

821
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: do it all over again, do you know what they

822
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: would have done. They would have traded Brandon Ayuk before

823
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: the draft either if they got a second and a third,

824
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: trade him with the Steelers. Use those picks, you know,

825
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: trade them wherever and use that capital to get players.

826
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: You're watching the team, You're like, do they even need them?

827
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Ricky Pearson is going to come back. Juwan Jennings is

828
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: a stud. Debo's playing. Kittle's out there. I just I

829
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: wonder if they'd like to have that one back. I

830
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: was watching your videos of places DeVante could go. I

831
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: know it's a long shot, but this division has been

832
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: struggling near the top, and this seems to be a

833
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: star young quarterback. Why do the commanders not try to

834
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: get Adams with scary Terry to form a.

835
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: One to two punch. Ad McCaffrey in there too. He

836
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: looks pretty good.

837
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: The best dbs are in the AFC, and these two

838
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: wide receivers helping Daniels. I think this could be a

839
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: really intriguing fit. Honestly, the first thing that jumped out

840
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: to me was, if you are the commands and no

841
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: one else is willing to go like very high, would

842
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you offer a couple thirds and give DeVante an extension

843
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: like trade for him and give him like a two year,

844
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar extension. Because part of having the young quarterback,

845
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the value in that is being able to acquire a

846
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: guy like that and pay some money. Who else are

847
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: you paying now? Obviously you can't. I think even a

848
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: second still pretty risky because those picks are pretty valuable.

849
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: But I think that Adam Peters and Dan Quinn are

850
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: having a long conversation right now, because I would have

851
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: to think long and hard about it, depending on what

852
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: the compensation was, and then immediately extend him and you

853
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: get with scary Terry and Brian Robinson had some pretty

854
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: good offense.

855
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Hey, John from.

856
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Washington, so city in Washington, I can't even pretend to pronounce.

857
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: I was lucky to be able to witness the LB

858
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: days same well sweet, But no one seems to talk

859
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: about my favorite running back, mar Sean Lynch. My question is,

860
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: do you think the Beast mode is a Hall of

861
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Famer why or why not?

862
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

863
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: I think he's definitely a Hall of Fame talent. I

864
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: think it's based on longevity. Super Bowl Champion probably could

865
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Speaker 1: have two. I mean, was clearly a top I would

866
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Speaker 1: say three running back for a long, you know, four

867
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Speaker 1: or five year period of his career. You know, honestly,

868
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: I haven't thought that long and hard about it. My

869
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: first reaction is, yeah, I could see him get in.

870
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a first He's not like

871
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson or Ladanian Tomlinson, but I think when you

872
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: factor in winning, when you factor in his peak years, though,

873
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of rocky in Buffalo goes to

874
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: uh goes to Seattle.

875
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have no beef with it.

876
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: First question, with Primetime being such a great figure in football,

877
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: but also being there for his kids and his quarterback

878
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: being forecasted to go first round, maybe top ten would

879
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: an owner, GM and coaching staff draft him knowing how

880
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: much influence media would be part of possibly with Sanders

881
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: coaching career and his son being coached in the NFL,

882
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: questioning coaching decisions or where he goes. Knowing owners like

883
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: being in control of their franchise, working for the Eagles,

884
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: knowing how owners like to run the franchise, can you

885
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: give insight how would team handle this from the front

886
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: office to the field coaching staff? Is too early to

887
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: see which teams will finish at the top of the draft.

888
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Bonus question, how do you think Major League Baseball would

889
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: be better if they had.

890
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: A hard cap? I don't even care.

891
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters in Baseball in terms of

892
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: the cap.

893
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: Same teams would be winning.

894
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: And if you're a poverty franchise right now, I don't

895
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: feel bad for you. I would say with dion'son, I

896
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: think you'd have to take into account, you know, like

897
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: when Dion was drafted, there was a lot of hooplab

898
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: behind him. Now, he was, I mean, probably a top

899
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: fifty prospect of all time any sport. I mean just

900
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the greatest talents we've ever seen.

901
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Obviously could play baseball too, but his dad wasn't also

902
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: a head coach and have a huge media platform and listen,

903
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Dion doesn't give a shit, so I hadn't even thought

904
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: about that angle of it. But yeah, I mean he

905
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: was gonna say some stuff that makes headlines. So if

906
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: you're the Giants, right, if you're a big, big market team,

907
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: everything Dion says about Shador would become a headline. But

908
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you can be consumed with that. If

909
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: Shador is the best talent and you know, the highest

910
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: graded guy on your board, I think teams would just

911
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: pull the trigger and deal with that later.

912
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: You know.

913
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: I've never had a conversation with that owner. Honestly, I

914
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: think some owners might like it, to be honest with you,

915
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: it just puts a spotlight on their franchise.

916
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: What I don't understand.

917
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: We've seen two high level running backs, Saquan and Josh

918
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: Jacobs recently sign with the team and then come out

919
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: and say the team playing on real grass versus artificial

920
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: turf factored into their decision to go there. So clearly

921
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: players at the top are taking notice of playing services

922
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: given teams a competitive advantage in free agency. So why

923
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: don't more teams rip out their turf and put in

924
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: grass in order to give themselves a better chance to

925
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: land themselves the next Saquon in free agency? I think

926
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: that's a sexy headline, but like, how many teams were

927
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: truly in the market for those two guys. I think

928
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: it'd be a bigger deal if, like the number one

929
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: defensive player made a decision because of that. Like at

930
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like the markets for the

931
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: running backs are relatively small. I think it just gets

932
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: down to money, and these owners are cheap. It's it's

933
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: crazy to say, but it's really that simple. It's why

934
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: do the Giants and the Jets play on the shitty

935
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: turf because they don't want to replace it because it

936
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: would cost them, which is insane to me. It's like,

937
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: you guys both have two hundred million dollars payrolls. We

938
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: just saw Rogers tears Achilles there last year. A ton

939
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: of guys have torn their achilles on other teams or

940
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: acls at that place. What are we doing guys? But

941
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: it hasn't changed, and I don't expect it to. It's

942
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: crazy to say this out loud, but I do just

943
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: think it's just they're cheap. Question for the mailbag this

944
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: will be the last one. Do you think the Eagles

945
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: regret going all in on Jalen Hurts? Every time I

946
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: watch him, he does not look and command to the

947
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: offense and like the game plan is trying to work

948
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: around his limitations. I think it's easy. Obviously, if they

949
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: could do it over again at sitting here today, they

950
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: would take back the contract in a heartbeat. They would

951
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: just take back the contract. But at the time they

952
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: signed him, he had just looked better than Mahomes in

953
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So these last couple of years, I

954
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: mean the year and four games have been rocky, especially

955
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: the last calendar. You know, I would say calendar year,

956
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: but November December playoff game. In the start of the season,

957
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: he's pretty up and down. A lot of down turnovers

958
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: are not going away. But when they pulled the trigger

959
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: on the deal, he had just been an MVP candidate.

960
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: He had looked incredible in the Super Bowl. I mean

961
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: probably just his best pocket game of his career, in

962
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: the biggest moments against the brightest lights. You just kind

963
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: of bet even if he wasn't gonna play like that

964
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: every week, they would just sustain. They clearly underestimated what

965
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: the team would look like minus the offensive coordinator, and

966
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: they underestimated that for whatever reason, Maybe he just, I

967
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know, let it all hang that game because he,

968
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: like you said, just doesn't look in command. There's an

969
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: eye test thing. Like you watch Trevor Lawrence, it doesn't

970
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: feel like he knows where the ball's going.

971
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: He's not a.

972
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: Confident thrower, but he'll throw within the pocket. When you

973
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: watch Jalen or you watch Deshaun Watson, Jalen's better than

974
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. Both those guys leave the pocket early, and

975
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: both those guys all are inconsistent pocket throwers. Now, Jalen

976
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: is still much more capable scrambling around, making shit happen,

977
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: making big plays. But if you can't consistently win from

978
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: within the pocket, it's i'd argue, impossible to live up

979
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: to your contract.

980
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: Say what you.

981
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: Want about Lamar, and you guys know I'm critical of

982
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: him sometimes when he's on he's kicking your ass, moving

983
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: around between the tackles, throwing balls very accurate. Jalen just

984
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have those moments very often anymore. Deshaun never does.

985
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know. There's just a ton of pressure

986
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: right now on Callen to try to just get the

987
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: best football out of him. And because even if they

988
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: do regret it, and I'm sure they do, you're kind

989
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: of in bed with this guy. You got to figure

990
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: this out. You don't have other options because at the

991
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: time when Carson started to crumble and they went to Jalen,

992
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: like Jalen was on their team. Second round pick Kenny

993
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: Pickett's their backup. So even if, like hey, just is

994
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: getting really ugly, there are no better options. You just

995
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: you're either gonna lose with Jalen or you're gonna figure

996
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: it out and kind of save the season. Also, in

997
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: fairness to him, the defense and Vic Fangio has been atrocious.

998
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 1: I think one thing they immediately regret is the hot deal.

999
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't make sense with Fangio, that much is clear

1000
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: through four weeks, makes no sense. Heard someone say he

1001
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: played thirty three snaps and made one tackle. His stats

1002
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: compared to Reddick, who hasn't even played, are kind of similar,

1003
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: and scheme fit matters. What's Robert sala He knows it's

1004
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: a much different defense. It's a much different defense than

1005
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: what Fangio needs. Like his number one I would say

1006
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: thing that he asked. It feels like it's for his

1007
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: defensive lineman to hold the point and that's not tough steal.

1008
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: He's a nickel pass rusher. Well, if you start him

1009
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: and he's out there on first down, what you do

1010
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: You're gonna run right at him. And obviously the two

1011
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: big guys have overall underperformed. So I draft two defensive

1012
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: linemen in the top fifteen. It's part of football, though,

1013
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: like you regret things. I was watching Kyle Hamilton Sunday night.

1014
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: It's like.

1015
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: You realize that the Eagles traded up to get Jordan

1016
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: Davis and they could just drafted Kyle Hamilton in that spot,

1017
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: but they took Jordan Davis. Which, listen, you take six ' five,

1018
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle over a safety,

1019
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: it's not crazy business. But then that guy needs to

1020
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: be good. Because I'm watching Kyle Hamilton, it's like it's

1021
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: gut a Hall of Famer. And the question with Jordan Davis,

1022
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: like how much does he love football? I mean, you're

1023
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: asking those questions three years into a guy's career, how

1024
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: much does he love football? Because I promise you that

1025
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: is the question being asked. We got problems, and by we,

1026
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: I mean Sirianni because and Fansio. You need those guys

1027
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: to be good. So I say, the Eagles gotta this

1028
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: bye week. They got to figure out their defensive line,

1029
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: they got to figure out their defense, and they got

1030
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: to just figure out how to get Jalen comfortable again.

1031
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna look better with the AJ Brown out

1032
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: there and Devonte Smith, but he still should be able

1033
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: to be pretty you know, efficient when you're paying the

1034
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: guy forty five to fifty million dollars a year. And

1035
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: that's that's on Callen. Mart's why he gets paid a

1036
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of pressure, the volume