WEBVTT - Tayla Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's only actually got the scoop on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>on side. No one can do with Clie Carola Carola.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can do with quiet Carol Carola. Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know music, I know people, and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper

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<v Speaker 1>heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there

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<v Speaker 1>could be adult content. I'm so excited, you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>have Taylor and Finger joining me on this episode. She

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<v Speaker 1>is my former trio mate from Stealing Angels. We travel

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<v Speaker 1>the country here together. We opened for Timer Girl, Lady A,

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<v Speaker 1>went on a USO tour. We lived together in a

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<v Speaker 1>house for like three years together. On top of touring together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a lot of time together. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this girl so much. She's also in recovery. She shares

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<v Speaker 1>that story. She's the mother of two beautiful boys. She's

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<v Speaker 1>Lauretta Lynn's granddaughter. She has a tribute to her that

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<v Speaker 1>she travels all around the country doing. She is so hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>We laugh so hard, we cry, and so in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this episode. I promise it's just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of laughing, but we cannot stop laughing. It is

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<v Speaker 1>so good to talk to her. I know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love this interview. So here she is Taylor len Finger

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<v Speaker 1>and we're laughing our butts off. Okay, I'm here with

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Lynn Finger. No, I don't want to Taylor Lynn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with Taylor Linn Finger. Taylor Lens your stage name? No? Right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>can we start over? No? So Taylor Lynn. Oh guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be This is gonna be an interview

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<v Speaker 1>because Taylor. Oh gosh, Sayla. The problem is Taylor and

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be in a trio. Now, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you making me laying stop? We did this for a

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<v Speaker 1>year and we laughed so hard we cry. What is

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<v Speaker 1>it happening here? Okay, Taylor, Taylor pulled together? Start the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sweating. Okay, we have to start the interview. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask you a question and tell me the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that comes to mind. Okay, happiness? Oh what this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? Honestly? Good friendships where you can guttural

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and I think that's the word. I'm streaming tears

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<v Speaker 1>because we really did this for so long, And is

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<v Speaker 1>there any better happiness than innocent laughter that you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't even stop? Do you know that I laugh harder

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<v Speaker 1>with you than I think anyone. Oh my gosh, listen

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<v Speaker 1>when we used to do that on state I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say to anyone that's listening, we would do this

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<v Speaker 1>in radio station. We'd start laughing and we couldn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>on air, on air, crying laughing. We've done this at

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<v Speaker 1>the c M A fast. I mean, like we literally

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<v Speaker 1>would have to just walk away and just not look

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. Why do you make me laugh so hard?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what it is? I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. I think we used to do it

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<v Speaker 1>to escape a little bit, you know, like escape our

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<v Speaker 1>reality for a minute, But now I have no idea. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got it. I think we got through it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So happiness is this? Okay? What's your vision? What's my

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<v Speaker 1>vision for your life? And here? Oh okay, um, just

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<v Speaker 1>the word vision okay, Oh okay. Sharon. Caroline's Mom's name

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<v Speaker 1>is Sharon and she is a philosopher, So okay, vision,

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<v Speaker 1>don't think about this is rapid fire, rapid fire vision.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't say this is rapid fire, Okay vision? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my vision is right now, honestly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're in the moment. I am in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something you've come to because you did not

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<v Speaker 1>used to live in the moment? And I know this

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<v Speaker 1>because we were in a band stealing angels together, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into. Your also the granddaughter of Lauretta Lyn,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're gonna get into, and your own person and

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<v Speaker 1>badass just period, and we'll just get into all that. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've had to work really hard to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment. Somebody just said to me yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>it could have actually been you that said you always

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<v Speaker 1>want what you don't have. It was it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was you. Yeah, Because like I live on a farm

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and I'm like, well, maybe I need a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more town. And when I have somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I trust and love, like you, that will say that

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<v Speaker 1>knows me and will say you know you always want

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit different, and then I'll go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. So I'm a hundred percent happy where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at right now, and my vision is right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a career that I love. I have a family

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<v Speaker 1>that I love, I have good friends, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any enemies I have. Isn't that a great place like

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<v Speaker 1>to get through that dramatic twenty like twenties thirties because

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're reaching the big four? Oh oh, we used

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<v Speaker 1>to lie about your age where I remember that one

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<v Speaker 1>time that we did. I'll never forget it. We did

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<v Speaker 1>that interview and it says what each would take interviews

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<v Speaker 1>on in Caroline did a printed interview that said Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty four. Taylor is divorced. And we had been

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<v Speaker 1>saying I was twenty nine and certainly not divorced, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am divorced, married again, and I'm gonna be forty.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did that feel what I and that part

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<v Speaker 1>of your life when we were doing selling Angels and

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<v Speaker 1>we were like trying to make it on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>How did that make you feel when that was printed

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four divorce because that was chafter you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I was ashamed of that at the time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>ashamed of that. I was trying to be somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I was myself in so many ways. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seven years younger than me. Jen was five years younger.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all were in your twenties. I was in my thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was trying to be twenty. Jan Layne was

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<v Speaker 1>the other member of Sailing Angels. She's not a great

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<v Speaker 1>man called Runaway June. They're doing amazing. Um and their

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<v Speaker 1>lead singer now is like twenty five. I think so

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<v Speaker 1>when Jen's older and so, I don't know. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of gets it. But um A D H D.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so, how did you feel? I was just ashamed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, I wanted to be twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to weigh ninety five pounds, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend that that's what was up. Now I'm embracing

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<v Speaker 1>full lou Hey, I might have two kids, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful husband, I'm gonna be forty next month, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finally embracing that part of myself because I love

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<v Speaker 1>myself enough. Isn't it really great to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>place where you love yourself. I feel like I finally

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<v Speaker 1>got there. Like I always liked myself and I love myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I didn't fully love all of myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe we had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>that in common. Yeah, I mean I think when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your twenties, you don't know anything. Are just a crapshoot,

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<v Speaker 1>They just really are. I mean, you're just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just swimming through it, you know. And then you start

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<v Speaker 1>getting in your thirties and you really turn into a

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<v Speaker 1>woman and you know kind of who you are, what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. And then I think after you're about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old, that's when you start going, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really who I am and I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So who are you? Oh? What is your soul? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your Who is the core of Taylor Lynn Finger?

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<v Speaker 1>The word that keeps throwing in my mind is joyful?

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<v Speaker 1>How wonderful? Yeah? I mean I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of joy. I think I exude joy. I

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<v Speaker 1>try to bring joy to my children, to my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>We laugh. I'm a laugher. I mean, I just love

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh. I'd love to have a good time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nurturer today, you know. I love to cook and

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<v Speaker 1>clean and take care of my family. But I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>that performer that's, you know, balls to the wall a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ten. I love to perform um and don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you found a good balance. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a forever thing. Trying to find balance. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm either too busy or bored. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when that's gonna happen. Yeah, there's really know in

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<v Speaker 1>between for you. Huh, Well, there's really not because when

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<v Speaker 1>I go most of my shows are in the Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 1>out in Seattle, where we lived in a while for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. And I'll go out there and I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>both kids and we'll go for a month and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have fifteen shows and then I'll just be insane. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll come home to our farm and I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there for three weeks and i Am like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call my own skin off. So being in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, yeah, so that's when you bring your mom

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<v Speaker 1>over Cindy Plymouth, who's hilarious. You make exercise of videos

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<v Speaker 1>on the front porch with a million dogs running through

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<v Speaker 1>and your mom doing like legged well, and my husband

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<v Speaker 1>will go please. So in those moments, that's when I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring mama over with Mason, who is my four year

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<v Speaker 1>old nephew who is crazy, and he and my four

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<v Speaker 1>year old son together just hear the house up. I

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<v Speaker 1>joined you know, beach biding advocate, and I start selling

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<v Speaker 1>things and then I start a mom's group in town,

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband is like, babe, please don't take anything

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<v Speaker 1>else on. I promise you're gonna wig out. And so

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<v Speaker 1>then I just, you know, yeah, get in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting my knees and pray to God that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>find balanced. Okay, so let's get into like your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few well, actually I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>a few more. Okay, these rapid fire or these you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of answered all these questions? Yeah, the rapid fire?

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<v Speaker 1>What does faith mean to you? Do you edit these? No? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good? What does faith mean to Jesus Christ? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not that, you know, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hateful religion talk. I think I'm from the

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<v Speaker 1>South and from the Bible Belt. I mean it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't love Jesus, then you were awful. And

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Seattle and I saw so much hatred

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<v Speaker 1>come from religious groups. And I'm not that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I love my homosexuals and I love you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I do, and um, you know, pro choice, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Jesus is the way to get to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that it's everyone's personal journey. Um, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not taking it on to be the judge of when

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<v Speaker 1>I love Jesus and I love my religion. I love

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<v Speaker 1>God and he has saved me, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>can save you two. But I want that to be

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<v Speaker 1>between you and God. And if I can help you,

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<v Speaker 1>let me help you. But my very best friend and

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<v Speaker 1>my husband they're both atheist, you know, and that is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What do your thing, man be? You? I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you on that one has their own journey. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we have background music. If y'all can hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's hosting. Tell me what you're hosting right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let me tell you how O c

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<v Speaker 1>D that Caroline is that this is really bothering. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think y'all can hear it. I'm hosting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Nashville Bike Week and we are having the pre

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<v Speaker 1>party tonight next September two thousand seventeen. Is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>bash and O p s. You're co hosting one night

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<v Speaker 1>with me and just got your job. Oh thank yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome. I said, we have a great time. We

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<v Speaker 1>would be. We're gonna do the hard rock night because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna do country great because I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would be good at doing an alternative this, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. So it's next. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about the next. There's gonna be like a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycle riders out to the Ranch. Nashville Dude Ranch, Laretto, Leans, Lorette, Leans,

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<v Speaker 1>Dude Ranch. It's sixty miles west of Nashville. There are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be bands every night. Our headliners right now are

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter Jennings, Jamie Johnson, Coltford. Yeah, I'm doubt it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great, babe. I mean they're gonna have honkytonk up

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<v Speaker 1>and down out in the Cornfield. Campaign ranch is fun though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a place to go. It's like a destination and

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<v Speaker 1>there's tons of fun concerts that happened like that. Me

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking about this now? Sure? So Memal's Ranch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we moved out there and meals Loretta. Memal

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<v Speaker 1>is Loretta, and we moved out there. There is camping

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<v Speaker 1>and cabins and you can tour her home that's on

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<v Speaker 1>Coalmaner's daughter Jim, who was her bus driver for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that gives you the tours of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a western town. You might see her outside planting

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<v Speaker 1>flowers or feeding a skunk because everybody lives there. She

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<v Speaker 1>has a pet skunk, baby, you would love it. Did

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<v Speaker 1>she get a d sacked or does she have the

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<v Speaker 1>sack and tap baby? I bet she has a second

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<v Speaker 1>there so that skunk can spray. Yeah, Loreta lens getting

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<v Speaker 1>sprayed by a scunk, questions planning, Well, it has squirted

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<v Speaker 1>before whatever whatever it's called. Are you serious? Your grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>the living legend? Loretta Lynn has a pet. When we

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<v Speaker 1>were little, she took a ferret out. I mean she's

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<v Speaker 1>at Ferrett squirrels. Yeah, she does. Well, she loves squirrel meat.

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<v Speaker 1>So she has the pet squirrel and then she'll eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was a pet and then

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<v Speaker 1>she ate it. But what does she does? She bring

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<v Speaker 1>them on the bus? She did? I mean, did she

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<v Speaker 1>bring the skunk on the bus? No, Carol, where does

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<v Speaker 1>the skunk live under the house? Oh so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>living in the house. She just feeds it. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go buy it at the store and like raise it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do they sell skunks, Caroline? You can buy pet

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<v Speaker 1>skunks Okay, let me tell you something about Caroline. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure she told you when we all met her, she

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<v Speaker 1>would carry around a sugar gladder in her bra okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would fly everywhere. I never saw it personally fly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure it did. I love Rodents. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>Loretta have that in common. Okay, so great. She has

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<v Speaker 1>a pet skun does she name it? No? Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on. Okay, So all the Lynn clan lives at

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<v Speaker 1>Loretta lens Zu Land, from Loretta to the twins, Patsy

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<v Speaker 1>and Peggy to your dad, Ernie, to you, that's Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>and your husband. Who else lives there? That is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The the twins don't live there anymore either. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>they grew up, and Patsy lived down the street forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Peggy has an amazing farting called Madison Creek Farms.

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<v Speaker 1>She does c s A. I mean, she just's. You

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<v Speaker 1>should go see her at the farmer's market. You would

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<v Speaker 1>love it. And Patsy is managing me mall and producing

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<v Speaker 1>her records, and just so she's moved into producing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't she producing your record? She is? So you have

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<v Speaker 1>a new EP and I have a new ep out

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<v Speaker 1>right now called The Ranch. Oh what was it inspired?

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<v Speaker 1>But it was inspired by living on the ranch because

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<v Speaker 1>I recorded it um with London Tone Records out in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>But since then we've moved back to the Ranch and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into all of that too, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's called the Ranch. It has a due out

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<v Speaker 1>with me mall the Redman on there. It's Honky Tonk Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>the first song she ever recorded. And actually James House

0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.760
<v Speaker 1>who wrote Martina McBride's Beautiful Wing and a few other

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<v Speaker 1>songs I can't think of the top of my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>broken Broken Wing. Did I just call it beautiful Wing,

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<v Speaker 1>Broken Wing because they just check it just yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know Beau the Beautiful Broken Wing, so broken Wing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did that. He produced that song and um the

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<v Speaker 1>song called us Love called Us Oh thank you? So okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you're in a duo now with a Grammy

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<v Speaker 1>winning a guitar player. Yes, he um won a Grammy

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<v Speaker 1>for it's acoustic style picking. Yeah, I mean he's just great.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric team Stead and he'll play on the record. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>make it out here in Nashville, but um, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>tour all over the West Coast and people just love Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is a star out there. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different type of music that I'm used to

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<v Speaker 1>what he does with. He has a Now that music

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to it's just ramping up, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the good part. Yeah. Tink Stead and Rumble is is

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<v Speaker 1>who he's with, and they do this kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what kind of music it is. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>confusing to me, but with me, he just says country.

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<v Speaker 1>We do a laurettoln tribute and just play around, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>a little. Do do you have a name? No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just Taylor Lynn, No Caroline. I mean Taylor Lenn and

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Tingstead. I love this. Yeah, it's they say Taylor Lynn,

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<v Speaker 1>granddaughter of Loretta Lynn with Grammy Award winning artists Eric Tingsten.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that's a good It's all about how you present things. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's branded people like and his wives are booking agents.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been a bookie. They got it all on the

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<v Speaker 1>family man. Yeah, might as well. So that's sweating an

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<v Speaker 1>there's well and we have the door closed because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so loud, but I mean it's really not healthy. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the back of this, so I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>six of them and three of them are out in

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<v Speaker 1>l A all the time, and the other three are

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<v Speaker 1>here in Nashville and they just take them around to

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<v Speaker 1>big events and hosts the artist. It's really awesome. That's

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<v Speaker 1>super cool. So you grew up really country, you grew

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<v Speaker 1>let's start the beginning. You grew up in Nashville. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a small town called Franklin, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty miles south of Nashville. And you are Loretta's granddaughter.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you realize that you have a living legend

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<v Speaker 1>for a grandmother? You know, I actually get that question

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<v Speaker 1>asked so lute lately for some reason. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it's coming around now, but maybe because I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Laurentlan tribute. Um. Not until I was about nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather passed away and I moved in with Mima

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<v Speaker 1>into her house in Nashville, and so I started going

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<v Speaker 1>on the road with her professionally, and I had when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger. I went on the road with her

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, but I never watched her. I always

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<v Speaker 1>went on the fair rods and we had these bands

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<v Speaker 1>so we could get first in line. When I started

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<v Speaker 1>watching the audience watch her for the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I thought, oh my god, they love her

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<v Speaker 1>like they love her. You could see it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like people watching Elvis or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people crying and singing and moving. And it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>these big concerts that you see today where people are

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<v Speaker 1>jumping up and down and they're just so fired up

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<v Speaker 1>to beat a concert. It's about her and they love

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<v Speaker 1>her music and what she has to say. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and she'll talk throughout her whole show and just people

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging on every word. It's unlike anything you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, back then, I didn't really know a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew that she was special. I knew she

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<v Speaker 1>was special as my grandmother anyway, and I knew she

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<v Speaker 1>was famous, but I didn't understand what she was until

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. Is that when you started singing. I started

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<v Speaker 1>singing when I was very small, so you've always I've

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<v Speaker 1>singing since i'l of the womb. Mama says, Okay, did

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<v Speaker 1>you just sing because you're sang it's in your it's

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<v Speaker 1>in your blood, yes, Or is it because your dad singing? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean dad's a singer. My aunts are singers. My

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<v Speaker 1>cousins are singers singing. It was everywhere, It was everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and who technique just went off, y'all and it's a party.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and Mama loved to sing too, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>would just sing all the time and dance around the

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<v Speaker 1>abba and you know, we just we're singing. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>what we did. When did you realize you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do it professionally and for your life? Always? Always, even

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<v Speaker 1>when even I think my mom has to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, even before you knew Loretta was Loretta,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was in your always knew Loretta was Loretta.

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<v Speaker 1>You asked, when I knew she was a living legend.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always knew that she was famous and that

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<v Speaker 1>she was a big singer and she's saying and she

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<v Speaker 1>had fans. I just didn't know the extent to how

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<v Speaker 1>she moved people until I was older. But I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be her, Okay, I mean always, But my

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<v Speaker 1>mom would always say, oh, you know, it's okay that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got evs and all that, because you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a singer, And like, exactly, mom, I mean, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was so crazy. Tell me about your childhood. What was

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<v Speaker 1>it like? Tell you about my childhood when it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you I mean, what does that really mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what it was like growing up in a

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<v Speaker 1>very famous family. Well, mom and dad got divorced before

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<v Speaker 1>I was born, so I was born Julie ray Lynn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you have changed your name. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>Julie ray Lynn and then about two years later they

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<v Speaker 1>changed it to Taylor Vanette Greer. How on earth did

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<v Speaker 1>that happen? So Granddaddy said, we can't keep changing her name,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna call her poo Willie. Why did they

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<v Speaker 1>change your name to begin with? My mom was so

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<v Speaker 1>in love with my dad. She'd love to hear this interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama was so in love with daddy that she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get back at him. So she thought, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>his rights away, I'll get married again, and I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>this guy adopted her. And John Greer was a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone completely adopted you a from your dad. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get readopted by your dad? Yes? Well, I mean,

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>as your life is crazy, Well, John was never I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was my dad for a while, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean mom got divorced John Gred. Then she got divorced

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and then got married again to Roger and did they

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<v Speaker 1>change her name when she married Roger. No, it remained

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Taylor of At Greer. And then when I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I changed it to Taylor Vanette Lynn. Yeah how long

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<v Speaker 1>did it? Say? Where did Venette come from? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>get this, Paul Paul At his husband, my dad's dad.

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<v Speaker 1>His middle name is Vanette. So she kept it, but

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<v Speaker 1>without telling John Greer that I was still going to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know. Yeah, she slid it in the slide

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<v Speaker 1>in there. So your granddad, Papa said, we can't keep

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<v Speaker 1>changing her name. No, granddaddy, Granny's husband, Mama's daddy. So

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna call you Willy legally well, no, baby, not

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>legally well. On his death bed, I mean I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>him a song, poo Willie. Now I had been on

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the drugs at that time, So would you get into

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that phase of life? Can I just chellse them? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Granddaddy's lying there, dying, right, I mean, God, love his heart,

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he's dying. I've relapsed. I am standing over his bed

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<v Speaker 1>saying here comes pooh. At this point, yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>right now, of course I'm sober. But yeah, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you really need to find some faster, fast

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<v Speaker 1>songs to start singing, So what faster songs to start saying?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he liked the song that was

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening death bed? Yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so okay, So you you leave, you get adopted by Greer,

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<v Speaker 1>you change your name from Julie. Want to say that

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Julie Lind's a really pretty beautiful name. Let me say

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<v Speaker 1>this in case my aunt is listening to this. When

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>my grandfather died, it was a very beautiful moment. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say that he tried to save my

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>husband on his deathbed, and I'll never forget that him

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the love of Jesus Christ to my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>And Van Westbrook's is his name, and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>father figure to me for so many years, and he

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.239
<v Speaker 1>was a wonderful man. So I don't want to make

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>light of his death. So I really do want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, just in case we're laughing about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to pay major respect to Vane Westbrook's

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and his daughter Angie, because they have helped raise me

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in our wonderful people and I would never want to

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect them at all. So I just want to put

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<v Speaker 1>that little disclaimer in there. There's a lot of people

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in your life. It's like following, it's like connecting the dots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's there's all I've even I've known you for ten

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<v Speaker 1>years and I'm trying to connect it on. I know,

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it's what you know, and she though, I know. And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So for people listening, So you you you're born, your

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 1>parents are divorced before you're born. Your dazz Lauretta's son.

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Your mom loves your dad so much. She says, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take your name away from him to get him

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<v Speaker 1>back with slides and vanettes. So that's where you change

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>from Julie ray Green Julie ray Lynn to Taylor Vannette career. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I lived the rest of my childhood in Franklin. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a tumultuous childhood. There was abused, there

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>was abandonment there, but there was also laughter and fun

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and in music, music always saved us. Between Jesus and music,

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>there was always a saving grace there. And so I mean,

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>we had donkeys in the backyard, we lived in junkyards,

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>we were poor, we were red neck rich, you know.

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And then, um, which is hard to believe, people would

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>never believe that because you come from a fame, people

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>are always shocked, even people that knew me growing up,

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that we were ever poor or that there was ever

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>any abuse that went on because people having image and

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>mine exactly, people paying an image, and they think it's

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>one way when really sometimes famous families are the most

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:22.479
<v Speaker 1>like yet tortured that there are. Yeah, so, how how

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>did you get into drugs and alcohol in that season

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 1>of your life? Um? And how did you get out

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of it? Well? When I was thirteen or fourteen, I

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>took my first drink. My step dad let me drink um,

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and I got drunk and blacked out, threw up everywhere,

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And the next day I thought, oh my gosh, I

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>want to do it again. That was the most fun

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had, and I've got to do it again.

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>And so I did it again and again and again.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 1>And then I got on drugs, and you know, it

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>was just that slippery slope, um, and you kind of

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>had a little free rein like like well, yeah, I

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it went between my step dad was either really

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>strict or buying me vodka. You know, like it was

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>just this whole thing. And Mom was My mother is

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful lovely woman. But she just wasn't a strict mom,

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Um, I love me some Cindy,

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Cindy wonderful, she loves she doesn't care what I talked about. Um. So,

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>then when I started going out on the road with

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>me mall. One great thing that my mom did growing

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>up is that she never let us talk about me mall.

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Like she never let us say, oh, my grandmother's Laurette

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>len so let me do this or that. Like she

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>was always so afraid that we were going to get

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>act entitled that she never let us do that. So

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>once I learned how to do that, when I was

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>about twenty, I could get into bars, I could hang

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>out with cool people in Nashville. I could get drugs.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I could do anything I wanted to do. I felt

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>like I was the golden ticket, Oh my gosh, and

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what a ticket I mean. I took

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>it to the max and so very fast I was

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>became addicted to cocaine and pill And you know, I

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>remember the first time I took my first hydro code

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on Lord Tab. I took it and I thought, this

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is exactly the way I'm supposed to feel like there's

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>been something missing and now it's not and this is

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>how I'm supposed to feel. And so I remained um addicted.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you fight addiction forever, um for years.

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>And then when I was about twenty seven, my stepdad died.

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>That was my adopted dad, my stepdad's Roger. Roger and

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>mom stayed married for almost twenty two years. So he

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was the longest man in my life. He was you know,

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he was my dad. Yeah, they were married a long time.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually realize this twenty two years. Well they

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>were together twenty two years. Yeah, they got married when

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I was sick, so U or something like them. So

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that's timetables off. But whatever, it doesn't matter a long time.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>He died and I was at rock bottom at that point.

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a crack and heroin addict and sometimes you

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>know you were at but I'm like I thought, I

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>could feel black images around me all the time, Like

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I was either hallucinating all the time or I could not.

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I wait, eighty five pounds, I could not. My boyfriend

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>was seventy years old. I mean, just you know, you're

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>living hard. It was terrible. I mean, is that what happens.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a slippery slope, like it just starts kind of fun.

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was a pill attict for so long, and

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>those were so expensive, and the withdrawals from pain pills

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>is so excruciating that when you run out, you don't

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>know what you're going to do with yourself. I mean,

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it is horrifying. It's the worst feeling you've ever had.

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was hanging out with this guy. I thought,

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm never ever going to smoke crack. How I can't

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>believe I'm actually talking about this. First time I've ever

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about this. But I mean, like this, you know that,

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got They kind of put a stop

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 1>to it. Im media training. Remember you know we're all

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>about authenticity and honesty. Now, that's right. I mean, I mean,

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm glad that I can share these stories because

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that anymore. But anyway, I was in

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>such a bad place and in so much pain. I

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>tried it and immediately it was like the doors opened

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and ecstasy I think would be the right word, and

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I was hooked. There was no way for almost a year,

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>there was no way to get away from it. That drug,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>which one wasn't crack, and then to come down from

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>crack you would smoke a heroine. And so it was terrible, Carol,

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and there was no way to get away from it.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>It was my master. It was my master. And so

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>when Roger died, I was able to somehow they hadn't

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>seen me in months, nobody could find me, and somehow

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>my brother found my phone number. I don't even know

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>what I had a phone, honestly, and my little brother

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 1>found my phone number and he said, hey, you know Rogers.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Roger died in a car wreck. And Roger was using

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>so he died drunk driving. And I said, I'll be

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>right there. And I finally got home. After hours, I

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.239
<v Speaker 1>couldn't figure out how to get home. I finally got home,

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and I got arrested the next day and went to jail,

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and in the back of the cop car, I remember thinking,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>oh my God, thank you Jesus. I'm done, like, thank

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you Jesus for thank you Jesus. I'm in the back

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of a cop car. I cannot get out of this

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>by myself. No one's gonna get you out, nobody's gonna

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>help me. No, but you were trapped, so you're gonna

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>have did you have two detox in jail. No, so

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>my aunt Angie, who I talked about my savior, she

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>um let me sit in jail throughout the funeral and everything,

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and let me sitting there. I had enough drugs in

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>my system and I was okay for a few hours.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Um Angie said, I will come get you out of jail,

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>but you have to go to Cumberland Heights today. And

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh my god, that's all I want you.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And you have to want to have to want it.

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>You have to be so sick and tired of the

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>game that you got it. You're done. Did you think

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you were going to die? I did? Yeah, mean, and

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care, but I knew that there was a

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>part of me that wanted to live. You know. Of course,

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>there was that small part that said, if I can

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>get sober, I know I'll be okay. And I had

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>been to six treatment centers, so that was other people

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>wanting you to go right, yeah, I mean, or me

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to get out of trouble or manipulate a guy

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or you know, get somebody off my back. Really, this

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>was the first time I said, please take me there.

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And I went into the chapel there at Cumberland Heights

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and I hit my knees and I can remember the

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lights swaying above me and me just saying God, please

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>take it away. And he did right then and there

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he took it all away. It was done. Yeah, really, yes,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have to work on it all the time.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I work with other people, you know, trying to share

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the message. And that's one thing about you is you

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>have committed so intensely to your recovery and like making

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that a part of your life and like prioritizing it.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's amazing. Like hearing the hearing this story from

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you makes me realize what you ever overcame because like

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>we haven't really talked in debt. We talked about it,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>but like you almost made I almost maybe didn't get you,

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to say. Like when we met,

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you had come through that dark valley. Well, but you know,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, I was sort of newly sober.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think we met when I was at

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>my five year mark or something like that, but I

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was still so sick in so many other ways. But

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all of a sudden get you, Like you

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>could have not been here. Yeah. Sure, the fact that

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in the back of a bus with you

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>right now and I have two kids. Yeah, in a

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>family is that is why when you say the word faith,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>thanks me to God and G I mean without without

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>my faith, my faith in doing the footwork, there's no

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>way I'd have peace today. So you got sober, and

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>then that's when what happened when you got sober? What

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's sobriety sober living look like for you? And what

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is your So I was in rehab for about a

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>month and a half and I knew it wasn't enough,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>so I moved into a halfway house. Good for you.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Um my other sort of addiction what used to be

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it would be men. So I got married right out

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>of rehab, of course, you know, and I will say,

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>your first husband was a doll. What a nice man.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It's such a nice man. Yes, you married a great person.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I sure did. I mean we were great for each other.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>He was in sobriety too. I have got accountability partners. Yes,

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>there's not. There's not one bad thing I can say

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>about sweet Jim Hill. I mean not one. Yes. Family

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>was great. Uh, we just weren't in love period. But

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys were very necessary. We were We were great

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>friends and we were able to get a divorce and say,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we're just not in love. I love

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you and I wish the best for you. And that's

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of about the time that I met you. Guys. Um,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a sobriety Yeah, that's when it was sober living.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Was it hard to get used to? So we're leaving

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was not hard to get used to in the beginning

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>because Jim and I both um, we did it together

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>our lives or friends. Everything was surrounded about other sober people.

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>So I had that first two to three years all

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it was all sobriety all the time, and I was out.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I went back out on the road with me mall

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, Jim went to so we brought

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>our sobriety with us and her band members were so

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>great and my aunts were so great about supporting my

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 1>sobriety and my recovery that I was very safe out there. Um.

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.959
<v Speaker 1>So I can't remember. I can remember getting an an

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>email from Anastasia Brown, and Anastasia I ignored it because

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know who she was at the time.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And Patsy emailed me and she said on a Stasia

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Brown was trying to get in touch with you, Tony

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Brown's wife. They are amazing people. You need to read

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>this email. I said, oh my god, I remember getting

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, So I read the email and it said,

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a reality show that I want

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you to do with Jennifer Wayne John Wayne's granddaughter and

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the descendant of Daniel Boone, Caroline cut Berth. And I said, well,

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a reality show, sure, man, A man. So I came,

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I met you guys, fell in love with you. They

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted us to be mean on the reality show. I knew.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember. They wanted us to gossip and be the

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Laguna girls and all that, and we did not want

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to do that. So you and Gin called me one

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>cold December one, and I remember I was at MEMA's

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>office in Nashville, where I had lived previously Mills nineteen

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and we were about to go out on the road.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And I will say this, I consider my music a

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>little more left of center. Caroline is a happy, happy, happy, happy,

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>happy happy butterfly pop country singer. And Gin, you know, yeah,

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>but a little a little still more mainstream than you, Yes,

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and I did not want to do music together. At

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 1>that time, we're doing music together. We we're just gonna

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>be on reality together. And so y'all call me and

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you say, look, you'll call me on two three way,

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and you said, look, we're going to be a duo

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to be a trio, but we

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be a trio. And I was like, oh,

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>hell no, You're only gonna be a trio without me.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So it was the fear of y'all getting famous and

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>me not that said yes, And that's sort of the

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>conflict that you lived with the whole time during Stealing Angels. Yes,

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>but what a beautiful blessing Stealing Angels was. I could

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>not agree with you more. Stealing Angels blessed my life

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>more than I knew. I didn't know how much it

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>blessed my life at the time, Yes, did you? I

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of did. But afterwards I can remember us sitting

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>on our bus. So we ended up getting a record

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 1>deal and getting produced by Paul Worthley and Wally Wilson

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and Skyville Records, Um and Paul did Dixie Chicks and

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>all that. We were saying, Lady Annabella and we were like,

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be the new Dixie. Oh Yeah, we

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>really believe that, and I think we were very close.

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>We were. I'm not comparing us to the Dixie Chicks.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I think we quite had the music. We didn't have

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the music because it just wasn't there. We weren't see

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we weren't all three of us were not quite on

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the same page. That's exactly right. And I think that

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>came out in the music. It did, Yeah, and it

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the cards. And you remember it was Pats

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 1>He told me what is his name? Don Cook would

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>say sometimes it's just not written in the stars. And

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he's a hit songwriter. So I can remember us sitting

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>on the back of our bus because they gave us

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a tour bus. They would fly us everywhere, you know

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>where the country open for Faith Hill to mcgrawl, Oh

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Maranda Lambert, Kid Rock. We went to I

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Rack for two weeks and we would say, we are

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>so lucky right now. We will look back on this

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>one day and we will say, oh my gosh, can

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>you believe we got to do this every single day

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>we would be home sometimes one day a month, maybe

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>we got to see the whole country well, and it

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>gave me the lesson of you know what, I don't

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>think I want to do radio. I don't think that

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>it's in in my heart to do it like that.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I think we learned so many lessons from it.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And well, I mean, I was telling the guys up there.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 1>He said, well, obviously you guys are still great because

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>she's come over to see you. And I said, you know,

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like, he goes, it's almost like your army brothers.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, you live on the submarine like this bus

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>for so many years. You breathe the same air. We

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>lived in the same house too, yes, and so you're

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>just connected forever. You and I were like it was

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>almost you. Me and Gin were so incestuous almost, and

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it was the only obsession in our life at that time. Yes,

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't have any even like our relationships that we

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>were at that point. They had to be like a

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>bird on the list. Oh yeah, I mean, and it

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>had to be, and the people that were managing us.

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't, then we were dirty dogs. I was

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>obsessive with the career. But you know what, I'm so

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>grateful for that because we gave it our full heart,

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we gave it everything we had. And then it fell

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>apart apart. Well, so we had been doing it for

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>what three We were on the road hardcourt for a

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I think we're together maybe like five

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>six years of Cell Angels, like with the reality show

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and all that. So here we are. We're about to

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>put out our third single. I'm at this point not

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>done with stealing Angels. But had two singles that were

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in the like one was in the forties, like two

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>in the forties maybe, and we were putting on a

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>third one. I hated the song. We hated our second single. Um,

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we should have put out letter, you know,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I just had out you know, all these ideas. Okay,

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 1>So I'm miserable. I think we're all miserable at this point.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>We're kind of underbreaking. We're over it a little bit.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>We're over our team and so we're all claimed my

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>part and we're frustrated. Yeah, so I'm tight because it's

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>not working on radio. I wanted it to. I won't

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>tell all of it because I don't want um because

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>every every story has dirt, and there's always a million sides. Yeah,

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and we have so many parts in it, and they

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>have so many parts, and that doesn't really matter. Who

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>even knows what's real or right? I mean, who even

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>who even knows? But my part in it, what I

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 1>did was that I met a man. At this point,

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty five years old, and you're starting to freak out.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been married and divorced. We didn't put that in there.

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I did get divorced. Oh yeah, I did say that.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>And you're starting to freak out because, well, my eggs

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>are gonna drop up. So you said my eggs are

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>going to dry up all the time. Oh my gosh.

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So I meet this guy and the minit he grabs

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>my hand, I think, oh my gosh, that's it. That's there.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>He is. I have found my husband. So he starts

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>following us around the country, and after one week we

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>say I love you. I don't know if I ever

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>told you that, because you would have killed me. Engaged

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>after like a month. Yeah, so we get engaged, and

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>then I moved to Seattle. So Taylor literally, so this

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening on Jannemize timeline. We're all it's all

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>good because like Taylor always moves is very extreme, moves

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>super fast, like everything you do is high intensity, and

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>nobody shocked that I'm getting moving or yeah, it's a

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>new personality. And all of a sudden though, it's like

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Taylor's like, I'm moving to Seattle and we're like okay,

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be kind of think, okay, cool because Tristan

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>our road manager at the time, it's like, you know,

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>we flyaw Ryan being them out of what I'll call it,

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>it's we can do it. We'll make it work. So

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Jenn and are like, okay, we'll make it work. And meanwhile,

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>though our careers starting to suffer because we're not doing

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>well on radio, the labels getting frustrated. I moved across

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the country, moved across the country out it's expensive to

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>keep this label going on independent label. We're partnered with Sony,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but like it's independent funded and so so. But we're like, okay,

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll keep it working. Even though the momentum was starting

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to die. And then what happened? What did you announced

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to us? That? Really? Like, well, what did so? In November?

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I realize I'm pregnant. So you had met this guy?

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>How long? John? We worked together? Four months when you

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>got pregnant, when we got pregnant, and I think, oh great,

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant. That's so exciting. But at the same time,

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>oh s h T. Wally always said, don't break up

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>and don't get pregnant it, don't break up and don't

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Then we're breaking up and we're well, all of a sudden,

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>things are already bad, and now I'm going to have

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to say, well, guess what, I'm pregnant something that's so

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>exciting in my life, but that I know it's going

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to tear as support and it does. I say, I

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do the radio tour anymore. Can remember

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in Jason Dear's office saying, I don't want to do

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the radio anymore. I can't. If y'all want to be

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a duo, go ahead. You all decided to be a duo.

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute,

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>waitute you know, and then it just we get another

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>reality show. They film all that trying or trying. It's

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like the last attempt to say it was just terrible.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>It falls apart. We don't really talk for a while.

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It was awful. Didn't talk for like two years. We

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 1>would try, but it was still like there's a lot

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>of wounds. They're still like we were still so sad

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>about it ending, and we hadn't moved on. You know,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of like pain still, yes, and so

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 1>we had to take time. So everything time does hill

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>every thing. I ended up moving to Seattle with our

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>little boy, our healthy little baby boy. And that's where

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you've really found your love, your music career that you

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>it is. I was able to do I do a

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>lauretto In tribute out of there, but I was also

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>able to do my other music and find a great

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>recovery group. Um. You know, you guys got to do

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Amazing Race and then you kind of worked out perfectly

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>at that time, like you start your life. And I

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>think we were ready for a break. Jen and I

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>get on Amazing Race that we do that, which was

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>an awesome, awesome time in my life. I wouldn't trade

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it for anything. And I think we realized that at

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that point we were it was better off this way, yes,

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And then after we were all able to have that

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>break and you guys were able to experience a different

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>life and me a different life. There was more than

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>stealing angle, more than stealing angels, which was heartbreaking. It

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was almost like a divorce. So then we um we

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all come back together. I moved back to Nashville, have

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a second son. I've got music career. You get married

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>to sweet Mark's Jennifer's got Mars's Taylor's name for Michael. Yes, Um,

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Jennifer's got her new trio. You've got your amazing hosting

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>gig that's going so well. And it's crazy how it

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>works out, like you don't if you would do the

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>next right thing, and if you have good intentions in

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a good heart and can say you're sorry, You're sorry,

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we're able to say we're sorry. We were both able

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>to stand up and say. You know, Caroline and I met,

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>she flew out to Seattle, and I sat there and

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I let her tell me every pain that she had.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not tooting my own horn. No, you did. You

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>let me say it, and you didn't try to say

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but you No, I just let you do it. You

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you my raw hurt. It was excruciating too,

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was I was really broken. Yeah, it

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>was hours of you telling me how I hurt you.

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But I was able to hold that and it started

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 1>release for me well, and we started we were able

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to start building on that, and that's why we were

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>able to sit here together as sisters again, as best friends,

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>as family. Yes, and that's what it's about. You just

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>keep walking, you know, and don't leave destruction, don't keep

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>your own side of the street clean, and you're gonna

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>be all right. You are, but you have to be

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 1>big enough to say you're sorry to and don't point fingers. Yeah,

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>because at the end, who wants to be right? You know?

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>What is that saying? You can be? You want to

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>be right or happy? I always want to be happy, happy,

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>happy happy. Yeah, And I feel like you're the happiest

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you've ever been. Like you're flowing. You have a beautiful farm,

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you have beautiful family, beautiful husband, beautiful career, the career

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you always wanted, you always said when we were when

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>when we were in the middle of doing Stealing Angels

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a huge radio all across the country, You're like, I

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just want to do this Americana indie thing and do

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Loretta music and do a tribute and be barefoot and like,

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>do my thing. And now you're doing that. I know

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it's insane. You were literally doing what you want, you know,

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you and not talk about you put the energy out

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in the world. You you know, you say to the

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>world is going to happen. You proclaim it. Yeah, it's crazy,

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>It's really, it's really quite unbelievable. I'm so happy for you.

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You tell me about what's going on now. So now

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about your album. So you're doing this album.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Were doing the album. I'm out at the Ranch. I'm

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>doing events for the Ranch where like the c m

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Speaker 1>A Fest in this Nashville Bike Week. You know, I'm

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just really trying to represent the pr for the Ranch. Yeah,

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing that. I'm doing these Lauretto in tributes all

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>over the country. I mean, that's going so well. I

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>do because I love me most music, and I love

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 1>that she lets me attach her name to me. Um.

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And I've got my two boys, Scout and True. And

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>then my husband who I just kiss every day, John Cody.

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>He's beautiful and he has changed me how because he's

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the first man that you've respected. But you know what, Jim,

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>because you did. But he's something with John. No, I

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't respect Jim. I thought he was a nice guy,

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't respect him. John. He keeps you in line.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>He does. You know. When I moved Seattle, and I'll

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>just quickly go through this when I had my first son.

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I have never talked about this, UM, and I feel

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 1>like it's a safe place with you. I had postparton

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<v Speaker 1>and I relapsed after eight years of sobriety, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you know that. UM. It was a terrible I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even believe it. John marrying a sober woman, could

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<v Speaker 1>not believe that could happen. But I stopped doing the

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<v Speaker 1>things that kept me sober. I stopped getting on my

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<v Speaker 1>knees and praying. I stopped talking to other alcoholics. I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped doing service work. And I had postpart them and

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<v Speaker 1>in the C section they gave me viking in and

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<v Speaker 1>it just turned back on the attict again. So I

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<v Speaker 1>relapse and he says, he takes the baby. They leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows this what they do now, but he he

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<v Speaker 1>leaves because at one point I said, if I ever relapse,

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<v Speaker 1>take our children and go. And so he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>told me to do that, and we're out. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can either go back to rehab or we're gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I went back to rehab, I learned there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many things wrong with me that I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about. You know, like when you get sober

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<v Speaker 1>from cracking here when you're just getting sober from cracking,

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>when you get sober from I had relapsed on a

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<v Speaker 1>d h D medications and compared to but it was

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<v Speaker 1>so huge in a life, the life that I destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>my children, you know, like these are huge things. Before

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<v Speaker 1>it was just me and these nasty drugs. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps his thumb on me when I get out

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm the mother of his children. Now you know

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't just some girl he's with. I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>his wife either. I'm the mother of his son. So

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps that thumb on me. For a good year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I gotta check in. I am. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's my worst nightmare because it changed everything, Caroline.

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<v Speaker 1>It my emails, my Facebook, my journals, everything is open now.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>My texting, well, I did all kinds of stuff, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to hide it all. I had to hide

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the money, aspent, I had to hide my text I

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<v Speaker 1>had to the gossip, my trails. You couldn't really be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my life because I had so many secrets,

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<v Speaker 1>and secrets keep you sick. They keep you sick. And

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<v Speaker 1>so all of a sudden, here is this man that

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<v Speaker 1>cares enough about his son and his wife and his

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty to us, that he's gonna get in every nook

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<v Speaker 1>and cranny and he's gonna pin me down. And I

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can either live that way or I can go. I

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<v Speaker 1>choose to stay. I choose to hold on. I choose

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this marriage. And because of that, because

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<v Speaker 1>of those choices, because of John's loyalty, because John showed

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<v Speaker 1>up as the man I've never a man I've never

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<v Speaker 1>known to do in my life because he was that man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, because he was that man, I changed. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not one secret I have. There's not one text he

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>can't read. There's he knows that I leave my receipts

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>laying around my but we have one debit card. He

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>can see everything I do. Do you feel so free?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why when you say who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>And joy is my core word, it's because John Cody

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<v Speaker 1>Finger made me be the best self he knew I

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<v Speaker 1>could be. And that is a marriage. That that's marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>it's marriage. He made you rise up and I was

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<v Speaker 1>there to meet him. You know I did it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. It is, Yeah, what an amazing thing, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is like his marriage isn't always beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But marriage is about making you be your best self.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to do it? Because it's it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be uneven sometimes sometimes he's not gonna want to rise up.

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm not going to that. She says, it's never fair.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, that's so great because somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody's got to do the hard time, right, somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to do the heavy lifting. Carol, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get back to work out. Hey, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the last thing. Leave your light. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap up with. Leave your light, leave inspiration. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just did it. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything I can say is just rise up,

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<v Speaker 1>don't point your finger at other people, say you're sorry,

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>keep your side of the street clean, be honest, love

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>your man with your whole heart, you know, just and

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<v Speaker 1>be you. Everyone else is taken as sharing cut. Berths

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<v Speaker 1>would say, all right, I love you, bab, this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best care She's a queen. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>love hearing from Taylor one finger. She is full of

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<v Speaker 1>so much heart and soul. That girl has more passion,

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<v Speaker 1>more drive, more. Just just soul is the word I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say for Taylor. I'm so grateful to know her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful for the life we've lived together, and

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<v Speaker 1>she inspires me be on no end. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you love that. Interview. Next week is so fun because

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<v Speaker 1>I have the gorgeous Kelly Pickler joining me again. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is so cool because I'm on her show. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Kelly Pickler and I interviewed her for her show.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Kelly Pickler. So this podcast past interview, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be airing on Thursday, the day after I air this

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast on Wednesday, so make sure to tune into SAMT

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and watch it on Thursday, but then listen to it

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the day before with me and you can see what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fun. An I have a surprise. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>competition going on called Nash Next, and I am going

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to be interviewing the top five finalists. It's sponsored by

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Country and in Sweets, and so I'm gonna get all

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of the dirt for the Nash Next Stars starting next week.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys, get excited. It's gonna be so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for you to join me. See you

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<v Speaker 1>next week by