WEBVTT - Ivory Latta

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>them about it? Then we're about to let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all backstage, Joe, Steve, what up? Hello? What's going on? Fellas?

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<v Speaker 1>How's everybody today? Man? Good? This might be a good story. Joseph, Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>tell you up. Let it fly, bro backdoor? I whoa

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<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa who Now, ain't gonna be too that man.

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<v Speaker 1>We passed that joke back stage? What up? Man? Has

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<v Speaker 1>everybody listened to this podcast? You know? We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that we see when we're on

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<v Speaker 1>adventures or we're out riding around town or making Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we always got we always got something popping up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got all kinds of stuff. Well, I'm gonna omit

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<v Speaker 1>some of the information on a letter that I received. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna omit a little bit information. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>our fans and y'all. Now neither one of you looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me. You both got your eyes bugged out, like

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea what's happening here. I just know

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't include me. I got a hoodie on justin

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<v Speaker 1>case it opens up. Dear Mr. Please, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is an official letter. Please, I would like some information

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<v Speaker 1>on the two thousand twenty one C Class three fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>also on the g SUV price pictures, et cetera. Five

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<v Speaker 1>Any and all information you can send to me, please,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. May my God bless you. Hey, man, boss,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this man's name. That so he just signed

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<v Speaker 1>it as boss and and then is the regular spell

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<v Speaker 1>boss or is it it's boss like I don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how you spelled boss, so as if that is

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<v Speaker 1>that letter conson spell boss a different way. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to give it this he letting you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's the boss. He wants a G or he wants

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<v Speaker 1>a three fifty sincerely, Now after this, there is three

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<v Speaker 1>letters and a numerical value. It says m VC dash

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<v Speaker 1>one to to eight one. Does anybody know what that

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<v Speaker 1>stands for? The I don't want to give it all

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<v Speaker 1>away because once I tell you what this means. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's his inmate number. Y'all this cat, this rascal sent

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<v Speaker 1>a letter in. I did say rascal. They ain't never

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<v Speaker 1>heard this rascal. And I know this is a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not visual. I'm gonna pass this to to to

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Steve Smith. Now, the boss wants a g wagon

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets out of prison. I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Like do you send him a credit app? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what how does how does he qualify you think

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<v Speaker 1>being in the pen. I don't know how much time

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing the other thing too. He gave choices, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't just go in and be like, man, let

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<v Speaker 1>me copy this boss. Boss. That's his his boss. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're at Mountain View Correctional Facility in Spruce Pines,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, is our call in line up? What come

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<v Speaker 1>does he want? Wait a minute, did we just become

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<v Speaker 1>local radio to call a line boss online? Too? You

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, you're with Steve Hey, Hey, Mike, I want

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<v Speaker 1>that g wagger. I ain't got no job, That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got no credit, but I want that. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that man may have him great credit credit. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's it's plenty white color folks who got

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<v Speaker 1>great credit is locked. Here's what I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't buy it street credit. Right, that's true. That right,

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<v Speaker 1>But man, that came across me. You know, people always

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<v Speaker 1>try to send us stuff and everything, and this came

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<v Speaker 1>to me me a few days ago. I'm like, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. That he locked up, but he

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<v Speaker 1>making he's setting up when he get outdoors making moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, jail ain't gonna hold me back, right, these

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna hold me back. That's all you, my brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>because we could quote, we could quote Ross whenever we

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, hey, hey, what was he saying this for

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<v Speaker 1>the boys that see the uh see the moon like

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<v Speaker 1>at night? Was that definitely dress? Huh? Is that definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the red dress? Yeah? I know, I know, my Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how we got to this topic. But

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<v Speaker 1>it costs too much. I ain't gonna try to product.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't vote, that's that's that's another podcast. Don't vote, don't

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<v Speaker 1>vote you. I can't pull his music over, don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>them what we're working on killers our whole budget production

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<v Speaker 1>and Talifia. But if he does, we can go our Boss. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Boss. Wow, that's crazy, man, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who we got coming up on the cut to a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Ivory Ladder, a w NBA point guard. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the all time leading scorer in South Carolina basketball history,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest collegiate players for the University of Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>Lady tar Heels, and she's the author of Despite the Height.

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<v Speaker 1>I've read lotta on the cut to a podcast. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna get to it. We we got some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called get Ice stuff. It's a random questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I just just randomly pick. Um. Oh, you're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>him all right, here we go. Oh my god. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between living and existing? Oh? Man, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the difference to me is just you know, you living,

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<v Speaker 1>you here, you enjoying you in the moment um you

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<v Speaker 1>exist and it's just like like you. It's like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an out of body experience kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just you just here really with no purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when like with me, when I'm living, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living to the most high. I'm enjoying my life. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be an inspiration to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Just have an impact. I just don't want to exist

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<v Speaker 1>on earth, you know what I'm saying, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be invisible and people don't even know what you

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<v Speaker 1>do with who you are. So I just love living

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<v Speaker 1>life every day existence like just checking off the box. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, I'm good. It's one lifetime. Enough time? Is

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<v Speaker 1>one lifetime enough time? Yeah? To me, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up, rewind you overthinking this? Yeah, lights enjoy it. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, there are some things that like you

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<v Speaker 1>experience you like, man, I can't wait to get over this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's so many things you're like, I love

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<v Speaker 1>to do that over you know, experience it. I'll switch

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<v Speaker 1>it up. So that's that's why I like about all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. What's your biggest passion? H Impacting the youth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my biggest passion. A lot of people would think,

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<v Speaker 1>I say basketball all this, but just the impact that

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<v Speaker 1>I have through the game of basketball with the children,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is my passion, Like just you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>now train, but just to see the influence in the

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<v Speaker 1>impact that I have on their lives just through the

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<v Speaker 1>game of basketball and just man, the joy did they

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<v Speaker 1>give me? Like that's my passion. I love to see

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<v Speaker 1>the kids succeed for sure, absolutely, Oh yeah yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when they're You have fifteen kids that give

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<v Speaker 1>you the joy and then there's one that's that There's

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<v Speaker 1>that one that just that just is a little ivory yea,

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you deal with that? That that one kid,

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<v Speaker 1>that that next ivory, that justice rambunctious, that's full of spice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing with it now. I trained kids. I trained

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty twenty kids, boys and girls, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got a young man like that. Yea. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, he's one heck of an athlete. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know my other kids, they two parent home. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. You know, him staying with Grandma and just

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<v Speaker 1>like you can tell a big difference. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>comes to me, it's like you walk up in my gym,

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<v Speaker 1>pull your pants up. You know, I got standards, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So the first week was rough,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, hold up, man, I can't fight nobody kid.

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<v Speaker 1>You boy too, like what's going on? But it's that

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<v Speaker 1>one kid that I would never give up on. You

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta keep finding a way to like relate to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some way try to relate to him. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I did. And man, when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you has changed far as like a like a's and

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<v Speaker 1>bees in school is cool now. Back then it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>cool because he would get picked at for making like

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<v Speaker 1>good grades, like a man, make good grades. We're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a scholarship so grandma can be Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that should be your thing right there, like grandma needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be set. And that's why you do it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely absolutely, I do it. Man, I do it all old,

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<v Speaker 1>all over. Give me, give me five or six of you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite child hood childhood restaurant back in your

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<v Speaker 1>back in your hometown York? What? What's so funny? We

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<v Speaker 1>just thought getting restaurant a couple of years ago. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just if there's a mom and pop, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always everybody has that. Everybody has that place that you

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<v Speaker 1>go when I go home. It's like you can't eat

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<v Speaker 1>it every time, but you're like, you know what, let

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<v Speaker 1>me roll on over here and get some of this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>get something um this food that reminds me of when

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<v Speaker 1>I was here. Why are you thinking about this place

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<v Speaker 1>back home called Ramona's everybody that travels with me that's

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<v Speaker 1>been and g has been. It's a barrito spot. That

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<v Speaker 1>brito spot is in the hood, right is dope boys

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<v Speaker 1>out there slanging in the parking lot. But man Gee

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<v Speaker 1>looked at us like, man Gee was like, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>brito better be good. Yeah, ain't side because no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not saying you sid side on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's all you know, I get you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna be up hype it up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hype it up something. And you know that's my boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you hype up something, he gonna say, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a mid ye exactly. It was cool that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I did that. Boy, that's good right there. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. Yeah, it's but it's not one of those

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<v Speaker 1>that um. For me, it's a place at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in my trip, I'll snag one because it it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of it reminds me of home. There's a brito spot

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<v Speaker 1>called Steve Burgers. It's I it's not even mid it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of the video game I used to play in there,

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<v Speaker 1>ms pac Man in Gallicha, right. So for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of just brings me back to that nostalgic place

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<v Speaker 1>of when I dreamed about being in the NFL. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of what I dreamed about, and so

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<v Speaker 1>like this even like music. There's some music, Bro, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not lying to you. Fuji's killing me softly. You know

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<v Speaker 1>about the school man I used to, Bro, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to sit. Let me tell you. You know what I

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<v Speaker 1>used to. You know what I used to, You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I know about it. I remember when I used

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<v Speaker 1>to sit in my room, brown carpet, bunk, bed wood paneling,

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<v Speaker 1>um radio what had a black and red chord. Um

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<v Speaker 1>was playing a Sega Genesis with a wall unit and

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<v Speaker 1>we had uh and just that's when we had like

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<v Speaker 1>the five gallon water jug with change in it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. And but the fojis always bring me

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<v Speaker 1>back to that. When I used to practice catching the football.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember what it smells like. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be funny, like that's a great question. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we had a old school tub. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to wash the we would uh if the Washington I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when the Washington she broke. I used to wash

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes my hand and dry them out with the

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<v Speaker 1>towel roll the towel up and put it on things,

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze it out and hang it. And when we were

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<v Speaker 1>you can hang clothes on the line because Ninja was

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<v Speaker 1>taking it right next day. And and so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I asked on the food part because that just that

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<v Speaker 1>just brings back some of that grind that, right, something

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<v Speaker 1>that grind that that some of these young folks, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't get that on Instagram. I'm not giving that

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<v Speaker 1>to you on Facebook. I'm not giving that to you

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. That's something that I gotta hold dear

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<v Speaker 1>to me is when I get up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going forty two, I'm straight. What's gonna push me

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<v Speaker 1>to work out with my fat ass today? Right? And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I remember, you know what, we gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench today. Let's let's let's let's play like

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<v Speaker 1>a starter. So so what was that restaurant for you?

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to think? I think before games because

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<v Speaker 1>I am the baby seven. So it was at one

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<v Speaker 1>point all sisters was on the same team because I

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<v Speaker 1>played varsity in seventh grade. Flex no, he was in

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<v Speaker 1>school like my I can't say no for that man.

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<v Speaker 1>So my sisters then they would we would always go

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<v Speaker 1>since since you said that the sister older sister is Iris,

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<v Speaker 1>and my middle sister is Ashley, and then I'm Ivory okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my brothers is four. It's four boys and

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<v Speaker 1>three girls. So my oldest brothers, Charles, I mean cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I love all my no. See, everybody got their own

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<v Speaker 1>personality when it comes to me. That's the thing. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so protective. Like my brother Charles, on a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>on a good day, hey, listen, on a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>For the night he es, don't give me about five five,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Charles. Okay, so you're telling me no athletes

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<v Speaker 1>lie about their height. Absolutely absolutely so on a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm feeling good, stretched out real well, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, oh man, don't I'm not even captain b

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I even said on a good day. I wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>like saying, oh it's every day or you know, every game.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, when I'm feeling good, stretched out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>about five seven someone Reggie, Sharon and Colon. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's seven of us. So my the spot that when

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<v Speaker 1>you was talking, I was like, man, my sister would

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<v Speaker 1>take me there for the games. Will eat the Afghan

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese kitchen. It's a little Chinese kitchen spot that's in

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<v Speaker 1>your Everybody would go there, so it's like basketball football everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was on, Oh it was some days. It was

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<v Speaker 1>on some day with difficult but I mean, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the place was. You know, did you a school?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, give us that like ten dollars, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make that ten dollars work, you know what I'm saying. Stretched,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the that's the place and so crazy. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I drove by there the other day and I just

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it like, nah, boy, I'm saying something that

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<v Speaker 1>workout is, but I'm about to die. And that work

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<v Speaker 1>out hurt. The things that we used to eat before

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<v Speaker 1>a game, go out there before and perform. You go

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<v Speaker 1>out there now, man, you right for a week, week,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole week, a week some stuff like that. Don't

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you cannot finish the game. Yeah, I don't know what.

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.320
<v Speaker 1>We didn't even talk about playing. I'm just talking about paying.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't even talking about playing now now being a

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<v Speaker 1>dad and going to games and stuff with my boys

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, you know, we got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time and be swen. Let's get someway. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just look at it now, and think about the food. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just how much we played on God give him a building.

0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.679
<v Speaker 1>How much. There's only so much you could really do.

0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You either got or you don't. Right, you can you

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>can put all you can, hire all these folks and

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<v Speaker 1>do all this stuff that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ain't got, if you if you're jumper, ain't wet,

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<v Speaker 1>it don't matter what coach you got. It don't don't

0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>matter what defense you're running. It don't matter what offense.

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<v Speaker 1>How many screens that boy can run around the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know? So No, you're right though, Like you're right, seriously,

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.399
<v Speaker 1>but you can't tell this generation that because they got

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<v Speaker 1>ten trainers. But we're going to I G with the trainers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like they showing out, But

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>so you're saying you're seeing seeing that. I'm from your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective all the time. That's a cap A lot of

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>these kids that are doing it, they only showed Like

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<v Speaker 1>with me, if you see any highlight tape, I'm showing

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<v Speaker 1>my missus because I'm gonna be real, I miss shots

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<v Speaker 1>show that. But then when you got a college coach,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was I was a college coach at Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>for two years. You know, you get on Instagram and say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, she's nice. But then when you go recruiting,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like and you're looking at the video and looking

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<v Speaker 1>and making sure that person got the same number. Like

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<v Speaker 1>hold up, no, they do that highlight thing, but in reality,

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>turn turn the cameras off, Like who are you as

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 1>a player? You know what I'm saying. Like even like

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<v Speaker 1>when I trained my kids, y'all bring them in, but

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<v Speaker 1>I tell a parent, we're putting them. We're putting the

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<v Speaker 1>misses on. You need to see that, you know what

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, because it's part of the game. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make every shot. I've never known anybody to make

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<v Speaker 1>every shot. Now you're gonna take forty four like Kobe

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in one game, but you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>miss on. So that that Instagram stuff is straight up

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<v Speaker 1>cap that. That's the cap I was captain. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>cap right there. Don't trap it up here they it is.

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It's uh. I just wanted your perspective on it because

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing it firsthand. Training all these training, all these kids,

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 1>and I mean we'd all be sitting here line, we

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't if we didn't acknowledge that. I mean, the generations

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>are just different and things have changed, and social media

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<v Speaker 1>has brought so much. It's a it's a gift on

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<v Speaker 1>the curse sometimes it is, it really is. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish that these kids when they get in the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on your craft, like, focus on what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to get better as a player. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, try to get recruited by colleges, not the popularity.

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 1>It's no stop doing things for lights. Everybody don't like it.

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they'd be bored like me at homes all time

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.679
<v Speaker 1>on a on a Saturday and just be clicking up

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that click and then you're looking like, oh they liked

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.640
<v Speaker 1>my post. They don't even know he's empty. Because when

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you're like, seriously, all when Steve, you know this, whenever

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you we grinded, ain't nobody would have. Yeah, but when

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<v Speaker 1>we when it's on the shore, everybody can pick pick it.

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<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, cut to a podcast dot Com. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. So where are you from in

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<v Speaker 1>the place you call your hometown? Um? Recently from McConnell's

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<v Speaker 1>Softcare Alana McConnell's, McConnell's were like twenty five minutes from

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>rock Hill, Like rock Hill is moving and shaking, and

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>then the Panthers facilities going down there. So hey when

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>they go down there, all all those little houses, because

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's gonna double and triple absolutely yeah.

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:34.879
<v Speaker 1>So um, I mean stoplights, how many stopped signs? Two

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and go? Here's what I need to know.

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the fire department volunteer or a most likely, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's all in the same It's all in the same

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<v Speaker 1>building as the police department. I mean yeah, it's the

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>police department and the fire department in the jail in

0:22:51.800 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the same place. Now it's like one division. The jails

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<v Speaker 1>not in there. You know what I forget y'all. Man, Hey,

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 1>but that's like the post office, the meat hall, and

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the fire department is in one building. The meeting hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we have all our meetings. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means South Carolina? So I know what meetings

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>y'all talking about. But have we have we progressed? Get

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>them off? Get him off your back. You said meetings,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, South Carolina. I don't know what kind of

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>meetings y'all talking about. No, not the type of meeting man,

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Not that means anymore. That's true. Not mean. Ain't talking

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.479
<v Speaker 1>my fish fry meetings either. Oh yeah, you gotta have

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>them because we got the meeting hall. Now, were you

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>growing up? Oh no, no, no, you aren't even allowed

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in exactly No, I definitely wasn't going in there. Were

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<v Speaker 1>good when you go growing up? Growing up out there

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<v Speaker 1>a young kid? Um? What was that like? As far

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, racism and in in segregation? Uh? In

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>in in a small deep South? Was it forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes from Charlotte? Seems back in the day like Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte's downtown uptown uhould be where you where you score

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>dope right years ago, so I can imagine if if

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<v Speaker 1>Uptown was that way. Forty five minutes down in South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina was my personal spears growing up. My mom and

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>dad shield me from a lot of stuff. Why you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I never asked them, Um, I don't know why,

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's I mean, you know, I never knew what

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that as the Confederate flag was, but you see it

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time. You know, people trucks and in the trailers.

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, they have it on the wall, I mean

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>in the in the windows, is everywhere. I never knew

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<v Speaker 1>what that was growing up until literally, I'm gonna be honest,

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I got to college, and I mean that's when I

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>just started realizing, like, dang man, it's crazy something so much.

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It was something that represented something that you had no idea,

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was it was in your face

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>every single day. I had no idea. So when you

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>went to college you discovered that Confederate flag for you

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and your small town meant what man? It just meant that. Yeah, absolutely,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it just meant that it they wasn't for us. There

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for us. They was they was against us. That's

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>what it That's what it meant. But it's so crazy

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>because literally, um really growing up. Man, Like when I

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>say we're in the country, like we like the next

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>house down, you know, it's you know, like the kind

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of like family members, but it's still far away. And yeah, yeah, seriously,

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like the next was down, like you know, they fought,

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>they we separated. Um. But I did experience this though

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my first game and junior high. Um, I played in Chester,

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you know Chester, South Carolina is um, so I played

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>no flex stop. I scored. I scored fifty points in

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>my first game as a seventh grader, and I had

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to get escorted at the gym like for the police,

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>like my dad. Everybody covered me like that man. And

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it was but it was my own people people. It

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was it was the black community throwing stuff at me,

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>upset mad that I even scored, like because I scored

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>fifty points and yeah yeah I had fifty and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the score I think we had like to. I

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.479
<v Speaker 1>think we had like too, and it was just like

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we won the game, but it was like who is she?

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>She showing out? So it was like my parents had

0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to like literally like cover me up them already small,

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>so they covered me up. People throwing stuff, throwing stuff,

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yo, is this really high it's gonna

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>be I'm like, I know one time I had told

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>my parent, I'm not playing basketball no more. I hate this.

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Why they're throwing stuff at me that I was like,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>don't nobody care. We're moving up the barsity. I was like, Okay,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it's that gonna be better. He was like, nah, it

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>may not, but you got your two sisters that's gonna

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>protect you. So and I just I've just been protected

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>since then. He said. He started playing basketball at the

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>age of four. Yeah, what kind of basketball we're referring to,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just being honest, Like when I think of

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>when I think of kids, all they played basketball is

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>for you, like straight dribbling, dribbling. I did dribbling everything,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>but like I told him, like straight up diaper bro

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>straight up diaper diaper and everything. Yeah, just driveling, driveling.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I just know my my parents, like yo, like they

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>had to change the walls. They don't change the floors everything,

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>because since four into then, I just dribble, dribble, dribble.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>My sisters don't were like beat try to like beat

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the stew They would take my ball, bust my balls,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>bust the balls that I had um because they was like, man,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you're dripped it too late, and and I just that's

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all I did. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. And ever since then,

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I never looked back. I love the game. Parking disease

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>hit your family pretty hard. Yeah, so my dad had

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's for fourteen years, and I really didn't know her

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>dad had Parkinsons. And two yes, I did, I do

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that here and there those things. You know, you got

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the third person on this story right here. Check this

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>out though, right then, here we go, third person, Yo,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>my my dad had Parkinson's. I played four years at Carolina.

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I think my parents may have missed five games out

0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>of my four years. My third year in the w

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>n b A is when I found out my dad

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>had Parkinson's. Take it back. I was like, man, my parents,

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>y'all got some money. Y'all always at the game, you know.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Come to find out my dad was coming up my

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>sophomore year starting treatments. They never told me. This is

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>how I found out my dad had Parkinson's. We was eating,

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>We was eating, and and I'm thinking, ship they got

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>money in every game, like we're going, Mama, how you

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the boss let you off the day? Yeah? He cool?

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>He good, but checked us out. When when did you

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>think you have money? Because they was coming up like

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's crazy. They would come up to They

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>never missed. They never missed the home game out of

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>four years. This is how I found out my dad

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>had Parkinsons. So me and him eating I had came

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>back from overseas. I came back from Israel, and I

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, let's go to Chapel Hill and just see

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. You know. See the coach we did

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>was eating that one of my favorite restaurants called Sutting.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 1>My mom was on my right, my dad was right

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.959
<v Speaker 1>there and the door was open, and so we're just

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting here and then I'm like, I'm like, yo, what's

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>going on? Like, dare You're good? You're straight? I'm like

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you're cold. He's like, na, no, I'm good, I'm good.

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So my mom kind of looked at him. I'm like, oh,

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>y'all tripping. I was like, all right, so you know what,

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just eating exactly, And so we start eating east

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him start shaking again. I'm like okay, alright.

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>So the owner his name Done. So I'm like, hey, Done,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>can you close the door? You know, my dad's cold.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And then my mom was just like, I'm like, why

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>are you rubbing his lag on the table? But I

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>see you all going what's going on exactly? And I'm like, yo,

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? So at the table she was

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>like he's good because they know I am about my

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Dad's like, he's good. Nothing is wrong, you know, you know, um,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you know he was diagnosed with parkinson And then the

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>first thing that came to my mom was Muhammad Ali.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, I'm just freaking out, like, oh,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna happen, all this and that. And so

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>from that day, uh, for the fourteen years because he

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>passed away in eighteen, for those days, yeah, for those days, bro.

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Since that soft, since I found out, I've been getting

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I was getting him help from like we was in

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I was saying to my mom and dad, the Pittsburgh,

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>um Chapel Hill, Atlanta in d C. You know, everywhere

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that I played, I was find somebody with Parkinson's. They

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>would come and stay with me for like two weeks

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in the summer. He would get treatment. That's how I

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>found out. Man, it did help. It did help, um,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>honestly and truthfully, be honest. Two weeks before he passed

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>away in a car accident, which is crazy. I've always said, listen, um,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>my dad never drank, never had a drink, never smoked nothing.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, man, it's this thing called medical marijuana.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna need for you to try this, but I've

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>been getting it for months and months, and two weeks

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>before he past, he was like, I'm gonna do it.

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like yes, because they was telling me it's a

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's strand. That's I there. I said, listen, I don't

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>care what strand it is. You just need to go

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>do what you got to do. And he agreed to it.

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>But you know with the past that he wasn't able to.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>But man, I mean the time that he was here,

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I tried to get him as much treatment. Um. But

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm still learning, and a lot of people send me

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>messages like, hey, my my, you know my dad has Parkinson's.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>What are some things you can do with some things

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you did with your dad? I said two things. I said,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you label him as good days and bad days. I said,

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>good days he'll pick up the phone to call me.

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>You see what you saw with Kobe, did you know?

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>He'll talk and then bad days I'll call him and

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he's just like it's slurry. But you gotta change that

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>around and be like, man, what's going on? What we're doing?

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>What we're eating? Ween wings that they He's like, yeah,

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I had wings And literally if he said whatever he

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>had to eat, I'll go get wings. So I'd be like,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>bro him eating wings too. He was like I And

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just lifts him up, you know. And so that's

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hoping people now that's dealing with Parkinson's and

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with their family so crazy. Yeah, they get my man's

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>cold and he got parkinson Like, what's going out? Oh mama?

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>So I found out that's pretty awesome. They were able

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to really keep you focused in that versus you know,

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously knowing how distracted you would have become, Yes, big time.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I probably understand you probably would have

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>went off to college, and that's why I probably I

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been right there. Probably wasn't done it good,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>but still playing basketball. Chopping hill Yes for you was

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>amazing the best thing that ever happened to me. The

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play at the prestige school like that and

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to be able to have the keys to Ferrari. That's

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>what I call it, that that that schools the Ferrari

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to have the keys to be to do that what

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>four years straight and accomplished so much that I did.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>The fans, uh, the coaches, my teammates, I mean everything.

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Just walking on campus. Man, it was amazing. One of

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the things I think doesn't get a lot credits. You

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 1>know when you hear about Chapel Hill here about men

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and women basketball, but you don't see a lot of

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>women's basketball. Um, why why do you think that is?

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Like we see you can see Oregon, we're seeing now, Uh,

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years in South Carolina. Why do you

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>think that that's the million dollar question? I don't know,

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna tell you this. No, flex when when

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I played those four years, oh we was. We was

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>on TV. You know what I'm saying, because we was

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like number one versus number two, do versus Carolina Carolina

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>versus Tennessee Connecticut. Oh, we was on. But it's like now,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, my shirt, let us say female athletes matter.

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Why do we have to go through so much just

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to be seen. And we we we played, you know,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>we played a play play basketball. We have the weather sox,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the uniform put this same way the guys do. But

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like we have to go through so many loops

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>just to be seen and it's just like it's so tough.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It's frustrating. But I can't even explain it. I really

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>cannot explain it. But I'm I'm I'm happy that it's

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to get in the you know, going the right direction,

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>but why it takes so long? Yeah, the frustration it is,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's very frustrating because you've got a lot of

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>women out here that can whop, that can hoop. Just

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:53.919
<v Speaker 1>give them the opportunity to be on television. Yeah. Who

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>are some of your most influential women's players, Oh, Cynthia Cooper,

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Cooper, Lisa Lastly, even though she was a post,

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even care she was giving buckets, Tina Thompson,

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Girls Swoops, the whole Houston commentation. Hello, please, I missed it,

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>you did? I heard it, though I knew exactly she

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>was cold, Yeah she was. That conversation was loaded. Yeah,

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Reggie's Reggie Miller's sister was, Oh yeah, then then Reggie

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and you did though she was cold, she was and

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>she's a bigger guard, Like yeah, he wasn't trying to

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>play that one on absolutely not. What's it happening, Um,

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>summarize your college career. I had a great college career.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that nah, it's you know, it was great. Don't

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>come up with this stuff like just explain who you were.

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>When I say sum, I'm not a statement, which means

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you get to say what you valued in your college career.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>My whole college career, I'm gonna be really it was amazing, amazing.

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean even through the ups downs, Oh man, the

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>running in the mornings and all of that, it was.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. Um never when I got there, never

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>even been on a plane. Well, I've been on the

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>plane once and that's that's to go to the McDonald's

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>All American Game. So to be on a private plane

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that was a whole day. No, man, that was a

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>whole different ball game. To be on a private plane.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, is anybody else getting on here with us?

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Like no, I'm like, oh my god, this eye is

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna really gonna be for the next four years, it

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, but on the court, I mean I

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>was able to like do a lot of great things

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just being as small as small as I am, but

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.479
<v Speaker 1>having so many people saying, man, she's she's not gonna

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>make it, she's a giant. She's she's a giant, but

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>she too small. They're gonna kill in the a CC.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna get killed in the a c C. That

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>was motivation. Like literally four years I had that chip

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>on my shoulder, like who donna kill? And you don't understand,

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a dog. I was mentioned the backstage earlier.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>What I remember about your game is you were one

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of the you were one of the early score first

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>point guards that there was in the era before now

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you got all these like that's a thing. No, now

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you expect your point guard to score? How dare them

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you expect? But back but back then it was still

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>more the it was still more the traditional point guard.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>You came in the game at your stature, kidding buckets,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>getting buckets. But that's the thing, Like everybody recruited me,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>all the colleges they knew I was scoring, you know,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>point guard first. I'm gonna pass it, don't get it

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>twisted and you're hoping you're gonna get the ball. But

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I'm a score because like now

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you still got traditional point guards and you're playing Yeah,

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're playing five against four. They can't score, so

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you're bagging off on them and they still looking out there.

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>You back up off me. I'm pulling I am, but

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing I am about to do my

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>flex right quick. Listen, man, everybody talking, they shoot from

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the half court line, and in doing that, they're gonna

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>see my seventy point games. I've been doing that. I've

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>been doing it, and like everybody now like this ain't

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>no flex. I'm just I'm proud of my Listen, I'm

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>proud of my accomplishman. But I'm like, I'm looking at

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>it like, yo, I've been doing it. I was doing it,

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like I actually did it at the Dale Curry Classic

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and stuff is sitting there as a young child like

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>just looking at like h uh no, no, no, that

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>was when it was at uh Charlotte Charlotte Latin. Yeah,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>so all all records still hold today with me, you

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:15.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I'm like, yo, I've been

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been shooting back then crossing people over. Like now

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 1>everybody like, oh this person crossing this person over? Ye

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me something did man, It's crazy. I've been doing good.

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey Gerard, why did you get that T shirt? You

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.080
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0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.359
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0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.560
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0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>eleventh overall by the Detroit Dream in two thousand seven.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>How had that dream come true? Let me tell you something.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Senior year playing dude, Yeah, yeah, I gotta flect. Katie

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Ain't got back step. Don't know what? Man, listen, senior year,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, top player coming out of college playing dude,

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>muggsy bowl sitting side. Charlotte Stein has the number one

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 1>pick at the time. I guess my girl is South

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Carolina was the coach. She was, you know, hitting retirement.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>So they're looking for a guard. Done to go. I'm like,

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>oh shoot, I'm going one. Actually they had me going one,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but Charlotte Stain folded. Oh yeah, yep, they folded, and

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>then the muggy was sitting courtside that game because I

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>hit somebody with and I looked at him and I pointed,

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and all you see is just clapping. You know what

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So then I draw like I failed, which

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>is which wasn't bad felt in the draft. So you know,

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I went Levin to Detroit and was coached by Bill m. Beer.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Great experience. I think our average um second, why why

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>do you believe that I played? Um? The team was stacked, man,

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>It was a learning experience for me. I was playing

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>in front of Katie Smith, Olympian. So I love what

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you're saying because a lot of times you hear players

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>they go, I don't get an opportunity what you're playing against?

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>The stacked group of group of athletes? And then how

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>are you practicing? Though, oh compared to the girls you

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>were going against? Oh Man, practice was it was like open.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm going literally, I had four Olympians on

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the team, and I mean my first day of practice,

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Bill put me on one of the Olympians and I

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>got lost, lost in the sauce, lost in by five screens,

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, welcome to the w See. You

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I love. I love I love what you're

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>saying because sometimes you will interview. You know, we've had

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Zack mass Jesse Bates like you hear these guys and

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>they talked about Man, you know, I'm We had Zack

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>on here one time and he was talking about how

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>when he got yelled at, you never had to be

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>yelled at before. And I'm like, well, what have you

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>done in this league that you believe that you can't

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>be yelled at now? So I love the fact that

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you're saying I should have been number one pick. I

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>failed and I averaged a couple of seconds because I

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was overwhelmed, not prepared for the stage in which I

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>was propelled on projected to be on and I and

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you didn't manage it well, not because you were a

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>fool or you mismanage your time. He's just you weren't

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>good enough at that moment in your life. Absolutely, And

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people want to meet it. I will, man,

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I was, I'm coming out of college is like top player,

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I get to the w n B A

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>is like the twelve player, like what the like? But

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's a humbling experience and a lot

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of athletes need to go through that to get that

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 1>early experience instead of that psychologically. How did that impact you? Oh, honestly, truth,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we man, it impacted me a good bit. My mom

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>came up and stayed with me mentally because I'm like, man,

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm good enough, but I got three four

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and Olympians that's playing in front of me. Is like

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the system is tough. Other than being Olympians, what else

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>about their game? It's like they've they've been playing together

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>for so long. So the sets that they do I

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>can remember now. It just says that they do. Man,

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>remember when it don't count now right? Right, I've that

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like I can I can remember, Yeah, I can do it. Well,

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>don't help me now right. I mean it's the truth, man,

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it really is. They was clicking and I'll get in

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and be like, oh, well what happened later? Dribble to

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the left. I'm like yeah, and then I end up

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>going to the right. I'm like, oh, what what is

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>going on out here? But you don't stop. I knew

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's coming out and set myself up and that when

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you're right, So, yeah, the pace is fast. Girls are bigger.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But then I had to um, I had to regroup, man.

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I went to Israel. That next to regroup. What happened

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>because I had to realize that the style of played

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that I did in college, you can take it to

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the w b A, but you gotta you gotta work extra, extra,

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>extra hard. The speed like I thought I was fast? Like,

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? Strange average, I'm not a different

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>always levels to this. They don't understand its levels to this. Seriously,

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>people think they can, you know, especially guy, I see

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you'll go, oh, it's always always here. Oh man, I

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>thought you were a bigger put your put your a

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>little weekend. Go gonna put that pomptoon if you want to.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>That worked for a lake bowing. Please please, ain't thank you.

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So I regroup with to Israel.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Worked on my game because you have time, worked on

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:19.919
<v Speaker 1>my game, got traded to Atlanta. Hold on, so you're

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:24.320
<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, yeah, but playing in Israel. Yeah, bring that

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>down for him. You know, I ain't I ain't the stupidest,

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 1>but I ain't the smartest. So help me figure out.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>How are you you the eleventh overall pick. You're getting

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>snow playing time zero, but I'm getting shots up when

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I get in forty when I get the forty five seconds,

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>get about three shots in telling if you get the

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 1>rebound pass, boy right back out. I'm right, you're getting

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>out of the game, but you're gonna go out what

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I go over three forty five sac that's a big implument.

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I was on that though I touched it. I not

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 1>playing absolutely, I'm gonna get my shot. Eight was in

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that corner clapping like, but you know what time I

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>had No, No, that's embarrassing. But I just came from

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina d MP who only time the DNP is

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I gotta spring ankle as on but not me getting

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 1>them shots. She ain't made a shot, so listen telling

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>them even before the game. Look, if I get in,

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>y'all know what time is. Hey, my teammate, the ones

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>who got in with me, they'd be like, yeah, we

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>launch your fast you lout of you good? Alright? Cool?

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>If I hit one, pass it to me. I heard,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I heard. I heard uh former inab NBA player tell

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>me about the elite NBA player. They said, man, if

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>that dude made a three, that would be the worst

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>thing ever. So he said I would pass him a

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>bad shot so he couldn't set and shoot No, I

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't get those They it was right on target. They

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to shoot that thing, but they ain't nothing

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>on it wasn't I don't want to shoot that ain't regardless,

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm setting the business whole time. I am over there cold,

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it's on the way. That's about needing them three to

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>one more. I was so mad when that clock, like, man,

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like the game shot man, y'all trip. I don't

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to least get to the free through a lot

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Many it's cold over there on that business.

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It's cold when I'm chanting, but it's cold, and I'm

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>over there looking at being like, ain't hold on, I'm

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>getting out of that minute there. I get up, you know,

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you stop bouncing. It's been times when I got up

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and bouncing the clock went off. I just went to

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 1>short games. I ain't get to get in that game.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, though I learned so much, though I

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>learned so much about myself. Detroit. Yeah, as soon as

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that season over with you, you seek an agent. You

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you agent, and you say, hey, I want to

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>go because I know there's different you have to have

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>most of the time, and I'm assuming because my my

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>my cousin did a little bit of europe Um in

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>China where you have to have different agents because they

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>don't left the U S agents all represent so you

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>had to have a European agent. And then this is

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit that he told me. It was like, man,

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>if you go to a big time school, you'd be garbage.

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Those Europeans who want you on your team because on

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that roster Cincinnati, Louisville, u C l A, Chapel Hill, Yukon.

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm assuming you're not in your head. So

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that helps you. Going to you eat, going

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to Chapel Hill. They looking for you because you know,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the the culture Sky Sports is only showing so many teams.

0:49:53.560 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You see that SA they showed women's games. We was

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:07.240
<v Speaker 1>on there every night. It's great. But being at North Carolina,

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>he has helped me throughout my whole career. First year

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in Israel. Um, you know, I go to practice in

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. You see kids Michael Jordan's, Michael Jordan. Yeah,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I went to Michael Jordan's school. Oh my god, we

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>love you, we love you. Okay. I know how it

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>was for men, so most of them, you're you're considered

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.919
<v Speaker 1>a good prospect because of the school. So you had

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>your houses paid for, right, yeah, possibly car ain't no,

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.800
<v Speaker 1>possibly paid for and then you had your salary and

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 1>then they took care of you. And most of the time,

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>because you're a big school, probably two years deal. Most

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of them were one year deals, and you have food

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff taken care of. We literally got

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>treated like NBA guys. But then they were girls who

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>were not from bigger schools that were not treated the

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>same way. Kind of Yeah, I mean it was just

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the stipend was left. The stipend may have been a

0:50:57.760 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit less, but they still got the you know,

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the the house and car, you know, the same treatment. Yeah,

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it was tough, man, because you're playing in the

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>summer and I'm telling you, the team's overseas. They may

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>give you two weeks to be at home with your

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>family right after the season and then you're gone for

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like seven months. So you gotta learn how to Skype.

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>At the time, you know, Skype was big. Have face time,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>so Skype and you get your little a little phone,

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the little Nokia joined with a snake, you know that

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>it was big. You get a little SIM card that's

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>how you communicate with your family. What made you come

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 1>family to play in the w b A. I love

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>playing in front of my family. That's the only time

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>they can really see see me play. I mean, don't

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>get a twisted I'm playing. Tickets to come. It's it's

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us, you know what. It's not cheap

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 1>at all, but you know they can get a car,

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>drive to Atlanta, drive the d C closest, you know.

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's the main thing with the w b A

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, you know, for my family, what would you

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>say is your greatest achievement? You know what? To be honest,

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>my greatest achievement, and I'm just basketball wise, is winning

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>three a c C championships in a row. And because

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:09.479
<v Speaker 1>of that my first year, my first year we lost

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to Duke MHM. Coachato made us sit out and watch

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>them celebrate, get the trophy and everything. It was told

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I was hot. But guess what I did. I went

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and set beside. I said, as long as I'm here, Carolina,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 1>we would never lose this a c C championship again.

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>So we won three years in a row. I was

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 1>m v P three for those three years, and I'm

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the only man a woman now in the a c

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>C to have three a c C championships with three

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>m v ps. So that's like a huge accomplishment for

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>me still being that smart. I'm not flexing. May He

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>asked me, are you That is huge for me because

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I was yeah, he you asked me, didn't Now it's

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 1>huge because I'm just like small town kid from mcconno,

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, Like I ain't never drink on anything like

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>this on the big stage and winning like this, it

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>was huge. I mean I remember going back McConnell's. It

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was a little parade in the in the snow, you

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>know about at the world worshe it. He may congratulation

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.359
<v Speaker 1>on people, but it's just like, man, I go back

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just like I was watching it, but in

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>your head you're like you really watched the game of basketball,

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It's like they had a

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>reason to exactly, man. And that was like, that's a

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.640
<v Speaker 1>huge accomplishment for me, out of all any championships whatever

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I want. That right there was huge for me. Huge. Man.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 1>The hype Yes this book that you that that that's

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>by you, and also Charles are Smith Jr. Crazy met

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.919
<v Speaker 1>this guy at the White House for a reading. Yeah,

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>who was the President Bush. I met him at the

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>White House and he was just like, you know, hey,

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 1>you played with the mystics. You know everything's going I'm

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, He's like, you should write a Cheulder's book,

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>children's book man founding. Like a year later, he hit

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter, you're ready, le Smith, but you know

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? No, not him, he did not, but

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<v Speaker 1>not Ch'all's hit me up a year later it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready, you know what. I was like, Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Literally, he called me, recorded me. I told

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<v Speaker 1>him my life story boom. I wrote this book to

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<v Speaker 1>be an inspiration to so many people. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>only about basketball. That's my story. Despite the height, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the smallest player on every team I played on

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<v Speaker 1>since I was young, but I've accomplished so many things,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, despite people saying I was too small.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I go talk to kids, I'm like, listen

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<v Speaker 1>with my situation. It's my height, despite your color, despite

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<v Speaker 1>your wait, despite your circumstances whatever. You know, being from

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<v Speaker 1>the hood, this you still can accomplish someone if you

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<v Speaker 1>just put in the work and that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, right meal children's book man, and then

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<v Speaker 1>this is my joy. This is my baby, my joy.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's that's a huge accomplishment for me. My baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my baby. That's pretty cool. Well, we really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you coming on, man, and this is fun. That's a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you you have fun. Yeah, Oh, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. You are a unique person. You are

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<v Speaker 1>well worth it, you are competent and most of all,

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<v Speaker 1>your lovable. I'm Steve Smith Singer, I'm Gerard Little John

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<v Speaker 1>and this is cut to It. Cut to It with

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior. That Is Me is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't heard about it, then we're about to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's all