WEBVTT - Those Who Serve Know - June 18th, Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>Stay right here for our final news round up and

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<v Speaker 1>information overload.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, News Roundup and Information Overload Hour eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and ninety four one, Shawn our number if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of the program. In a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be joined by Congressman Patrick Harrigan of

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, their tenth district. And something he said caught

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<v Speaker 2>my attention. He's West Point grad Special Ops green Beret,

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<v Speaker 2>member of the House Armed Services Committee and the for

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<v Speaker 2>the Country Caucus, and he actually wrote something that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that that just stood out to me, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>regime change by force does not work. We've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>physical cost in our national debt and real cost in

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<v Speaker 2>American lives. Too many politicians in Washington beat the drums

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<v Speaker 2>of war without ever carrying its burden. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to run over this with you. Was it wrong when

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump using the Trump Doctor, as I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it wrong for him to defeat the caliphate? Isis

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<v Speaker 2>that built up under Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was absolutely not wrong for and.

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<v Speaker 2>The way he did it. He did it without kicking

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<v Speaker 2>indoors or watching men with lots of life to live die,

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<v Speaker 2>or explaining to mothers why their kids weren't coming home

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<v Speaker 2>because he is implementing the next generation of weaponry which

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<v Speaker 2>reduces the need for boots on the ground and the

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<v Speaker 2>risk to American troops' lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think President Trump has successfully navigated situations like

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<v Speaker 3>the one we're dealing with incredibly well throughout his entire

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<v Speaker 3>first term, and has lowered the temperature of international conflict

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<v Speaker 3>during the first five months of his second term. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's done an unbelievable job up to this point, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't think of a better leader to have at

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<v Speaker 3>the Helm than President Trump, someone that I would trust

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<v Speaker 3>to make these very difficult decisions that he's probably got

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<v Speaker 3>to make in the next forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm betting that you agree with me and his

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<v Speaker 2>decision to take out Solomani on the tarmac. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we were following Solomoni according to report some people I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to that know, we're up to two straight weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>We had him fully identified in our sites. They watched

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<v Speaker 2>them get on and identified him getting on that commercial airliner.

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<v Speaker 2>They waited for everybody to disembark, and then when he

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<v Speaker 2>was on the tarmac, they took him out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was the right decision. I assume you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, absolutely I do. There's no question that that changed

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<v Speaker 3>the paradigm of Iran's leadership's decision making from that point

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward towards the United States. And that's what President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has been known for. He'll put all options out

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<v Speaker 3>on the table and he'll end up choosing a course

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<v Speaker 3>of action that nobody was anticipating, and ultimately that's advantage

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<v Speaker 3>to the United States of America, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot and you would agree that taking out Big Daddy

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<v Speaker 2>and associates was also the right decision. So so far

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<v Speaker 2>we're one hundred percent in alignment. I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we sure are, There's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, the Trump doctrine isn't as some are

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<v Speaker 2>identifying it as isolationism, which I think is naive and

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<v Speaker 2>can lead to catastrophic results down the road. And in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, we have to factor in as it relates

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<v Speaker 2>to Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror that

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<v Speaker 2>has also killed many Americans around the globe, from the

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<v Speaker 2>Cobar Towers to Beirut, to Iraq and other places as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That has threatened to wipe Israel and America off the map,

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<v Speaker 2>that has threatened to get missiles big enough to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the continental US. We have a window of opportunity here

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<v Speaker 2>where their missile defense systems are completely obliterated, where Israel

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<v Speaker 2>owns the skies over the entire country, where Israel has

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<v Speaker 2>taken out two of their big nuclear sites, and the

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<v Speaker 2>one remaining site probably needs US assistants and bunker buster bombs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it is very much in keeping with

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump doctrine to go in there eliminate that threat,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise the world will be held hostage from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can tell me if you disagree, and at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, then protect our assets in the region. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not without danger. Every military action has a high degree

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<v Speaker 2>of danger with it. I don't mitigate that at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't underestimate the danger that some people will

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<v Speaker 2>be in harm's way as a result of any military action. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe as commander in chief, if he makes

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<v Speaker 2>that decision, and I believe he probably will, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this window of opportunity will stay open long.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be the right choice to forever

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<v Speaker 2>destroy any hope that the Iranians have of a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in the business. I don't think Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was in the business of regime change. Now, if the

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis that have been hit with hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>missiles decide that they want to take out their refineries

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<v Speaker 2>and take out their electric grid and go after the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Leader, that, as far as I'm concerned, that's their choice.

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<v Speaker 2>They deserve to make that choice after what is after

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<v Speaker 2>what the Iranians have done to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I hold absolutely no disagreement in our perspective. Sean,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that what I've became concerned about over

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of days is some of my colleagues

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<v Speaker 3>in the House and the Senate, as this situation has unfolded,

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<v Speaker 3>rapidly ushered in a conversation about needing a regime change

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<v Speaker 3>in Iran. And I think that wherever we look in

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<v Speaker 3>our nation's last twenty five years of history, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Global War on Terror, whether it's the Color revolutions

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<v Speaker 3>that we sponsored, whether it's any intervention that America played

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<v Speaker 3>a role in in the Middle East to perpetuate the

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<v Speaker 3>concept of regime change, those have been fundamentally unsuccessful, and

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<v Speaker 3>when you break it, you buy it. You can't just

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<v Speaker 3>go in and break this thing and let it spiral

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<v Speaker 3>completely out of control. That does not seem like it's

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<v Speaker 3>in our greatest strategic interest, and so I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to be very cautious about what's something.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard President Trump ever mentioned regime change? The

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<v Speaker 2>only mention he made of the Supreme Leader is that

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<v Speaker 2>he knows where he is and that he's not taking

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<v Speaker 2>him out, even though he could take him out yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously he's saying it's an option down the

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<v Speaker 2>road if needed. But I've not heard the President or

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard the Trump doctor never talk about regime change.

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<v Speaker 3>Me neither, And my comments were not directed towards the president.

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<v Speaker 3>My comments are directed towards many of my colleagues. So

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen on mainstream media across primetime over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of nights, and that is where my concern lies,

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<v Speaker 3>and that potentially moving in and impacting the decision making

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<v Speaker 3>of the president eventually. But no, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump's in tension is regime change. I think what

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing is he's laying all options on the table

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<v Speaker 3>and saying look, if you if we wanted you dead Iopola,

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<v Speaker 3>you would be dead. That fundamentally changes is decision making,

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<v Speaker 3>limitations and constraints for ultimately. What I think President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to do is provide as many diplomatic off

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<v Speaker 3>ramps as possible to come to a peaceful resolution here.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously the enemy gets a vote, and if President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump decides that it is in the best strategic interest

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States of America, it's the only option

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<v Speaker 3>available to us to make sure that there's not a

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear armed Iran that we need to take action from

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<v Speaker 3>thirty thousand feet I'd be supportive of him.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have preferred that the Iranians go along with

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<v Speaker 2>the presidents you offer for peace. But I also agree

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<v Speaker 2>with the President's understanding of evil in our time and

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<v Speaker 2>that nuclear armed Iran is not a threat that the

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<v Speaker 2>world can withstand because they're radicalism married to weapons of

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<v Speaker 2>mass destruction like this, to me, could result in a

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<v Speaker 2>modern day holocaust. Do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think certainly that it is an existential threat to

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<v Speaker 3>Israel and with a rand support of terror.

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<v Speaker 2>What about what about the US? I mean, they've said

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<v Speaker 2>they want to come after the US too. And you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to imagine as in the out years, that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have, you know, the missile capability to reach

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<v Speaker 2>the continental US.

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<v Speaker 3>From the intelligence that I have seen, Sean, we are

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<v Speaker 3>a far ways away from that happening. I think Israel

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<v Speaker 3>is much more directly impacted by any potential decision that

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<v Speaker 3>Iran decides to make in the near future, and that

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<v Speaker 3>provides US operational space to make decisions in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think we always want to take as limited

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<v Speaker 3>approach as we possibly can, because these decisions have incredible

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<v Speaker 3>second and third order impacts or are strategic around the globe.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's all I want people to be cautious about.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just put it in perspective, Sean. Six days ago,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about Iran coming to a nuclear deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were talking about China being our greatest strategic

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<v Speaker 3>threat in the world, and some you know, a third

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<v Speaker 3>of Congress thinks that it's Russia. I think you and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>By far, by far, China are top geopolitical fault, not

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<v Speaker 2>even close.

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<v Speaker 3>And fast forward six days and we're talking about regime change.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people are talking about regime change.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about it. I've not heard Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. I'm not even we had Lindsay Graham on.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not talking about regime change.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that there have been many, many representatives and

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<v Speaker 3>senators that have talked about regime change over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, and I think that we'd be wise

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<v Speaker 3>to not have those discussions. But we ask that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the president's stated position they can't have a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapon, is it? That's it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, I'm one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, We'll come right back and we

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<v Speaker 2>will continue on the other side with North Carolina. Congressman

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Harrigan is with us eight hundred and nine four one.

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<v Speaker 2>We continue now. Congressman Patrick Harrigan is from North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>and their tenth district. Look. I think as a natural

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<v Speaker 2>occurrence of taking out the if we were to take

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<v Speaker 2>out the nuclear capability, and if the Israelis, if the

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis say, you know what, they want to forever remove

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<v Speaker 2>this threat, they're funding proxy wars and I've been to

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<v Speaker 2>Israel many times. I've been to towns that have been

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<v Speaker 2>hit with ten thousand rockets in ten years. One town,

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<v Speaker 2>one little town, baby town where kids can't play outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the rockets, I've seen the iron doma action.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been there during conflict, and I could just tell

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<v Speaker 2>you right now this is their everyday reality. And the

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been fomenting this never ending terror campaign

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<v Speaker 2>and funding it and supporting it has been around now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Israelis have a lot more to factor, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a lot more consideration in this than I

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<v Speaker 2>think we do. If the Israelis decide that it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for regime change, be careful always what's on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of that, because you never know. Although I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how you can get much worse than what we

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<v Speaker 2>got than this, you know, insane Islamic califate, convert or

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<v Speaker 2>die theocracy. But I think if they Israelis decide that

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<v Speaker 2>they want to incapacitate any ability for this country to

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<v Speaker 2>make money or even have be able to power their

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<v Speaker 2>own people or offer power to their own people, I

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<v Speaker 2>have no problem with the Israeli doing what they deem necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>After what's happened to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree with that. I think that that would

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<v Speaker 3>be fully within their prerogative and their right to provide

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<v Speaker 3>for their own self defense. You're going to find no

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<v Speaker 3>argument for me there, Sean, I think when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to what America should do in terms of its strategic interest,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly there is a component of America's strategic interest, a

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<v Speaker 3>significant component of ours, that is and should always be

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<v Speaker 3>supportive of Israel as our greatest ally in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's under question. But if we can

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<v Speaker 3>resolve this situation by providing, as President Trump has provided,

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<v Speaker 3>continue diplomatic off ramps to even where we could get

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<v Speaker 3>that proverbial settlement on the courthouse steps prior to prior

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<v Speaker 3>to trial, that would absolutely be a preferable outcome given

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<v Speaker 3>the certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really believe that's a possibility, considering that would

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<v Speaker 2>mean that the Iranians the next day have to allow anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>any place, anytime, inspections and the complete dismantling of their

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<v Speaker 2>entire nuclear program, and Americans being the lead supervisors and

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground watching that. I don't ever see that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should always leave the possibility for that

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<v Speaker 3>to happen open and the way that you craft that situation, Sean,

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<v Speaker 3>is you allow Israel to continue doing what it's doing,

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<v Speaker 3>because at some point it comes down to the existential

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<v Speaker 3>survival of a regime that fundamentally changes their thought paradigm

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<v Speaker 3>and how they approach the negotiation process to coming to

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<v Speaker 3>a deal. I think that there's a low probability of

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<v Speaker 3>that happening, but I certainly don't think that we should

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<v Speaker 3>be locked in to any one particular course of action.

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<v Speaker 3>You've always got to leave room for what the adversary

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<v Speaker 3>can choose to do, and hopefully they make the right decision,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they don't, as President Trump has said, we

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<v Speaker 3>will have to deal with them the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like more and more that the other way

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<v Speaker 2>looks like the only option that's going to be left remaining. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to put emphasis on something you're warning

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<v Speaker 2>people about. There's no military option, even owning the skies

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<v Speaker 2>of Iran that is risk free. And we do have

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<v Speaker 2>bases and we have troops in the region. We also

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<v Speaker 2>have shipping lanes that could be sabotaged. There is great

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<v Speaker 2>risk in any such thing. So I would only say

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<v Speaker 2>that our prayers are with our brave men and women

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<v Speaker 2>in the military, and our commander in chief and our

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<v Speaker 2>allies in Israel, and that this situation, which has become

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<v Speaker 2>untenable by this sick, twisted, evil regime, come to a

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<v Speaker 2>as successful an end with the least amount of damage

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<v Speaker 2>and carnage and death as possible. But they but they've

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<v Speaker 2>made their choice as of now, so it would be

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Thank you for your service, Congressman. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>good man. God bless you, and and I think you

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<v Speaker 2>gave us a lot of insight. We really do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Always great to be with you, Sean, God blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw this, Linda. The hard

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<v Speaker 2>hitting ABC Disney News show the view a big fight

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<v Speaker 2>over what to do with I wrong list. The Iranians

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<v Speaker 2>literally throw gay people off of buildings. They don't hear

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<v Speaker 2>the basic human.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen here, let's not let's not do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's not do that because if we start with that,

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<v Speaker 5>we had we have been known in this country to

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<v Speaker 5>tie gay folks.

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<v Speaker 2>To the where but where the Iran just black people?

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<v Speaker 2>So is it not even the same?

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what you mean, is say it is the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Murdering someone for their difference is not good. Whoever does

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<v Speaker 5>it's not good. So that's why I said you you

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<v Speaker 5>weren't saying what you What I heard was not what

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<v Speaker 5>you meant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very different to live in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States in twenty twenty five than it is to live

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<v Speaker 2>in an You're not for everybody, not if you're black.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys don't go to tron do not.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I get a headache every time we play this?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we stop monitoring? Who monitors this show? For my

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<v Speaker 2>for this show? Who got who? Who gets burdened with

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<v Speaker 2>that task of having to watch that show every day? Linda?

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<v Speaker 2>Who has to watch that show? Who do you make

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<v Speaker 2>watch the show?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I couldn't tell you that was me, so you

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<v Speaker 6>have to watch it. I don't pay you enough money

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<v Speaker 6>to watch that show, you know. I can't never pay

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<v Speaker 6>you enough money to watch that show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible, horrible show.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that she for one second thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>comparing the people that are hanging from cranes in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of Tehran is equivalent to her hosting a national

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<v Speaker 1>morning show on ABC, ma'am just inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're just out of their minds. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>there is to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's actually really offensive. It's really offensive if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to these young women who are kept as slaves,

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<v Speaker 1>some as young as the age of eight to nine,

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<v Speaker 1>married off to men that they are old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be their grandfathers. And she's equating.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Oh, I have no words. It just doesn't worth

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<v Speaker 2>my time. Eight hundred and nine four one shown on number.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be a part of the program, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>say hi to Aaron in California, the United Socialist Utopia. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, sir. What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I wanted to follow up with a caller that

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<v Speaker 4>you had yesterday. Was young man. I think he's out

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<v Speaker 4>of Sacramento, living in his car, couldn't afford a place.

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<v Speaker 2>To live, yes, sir, And he's just got divorced or

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<v Speaker 2>he's separated from his wife and he as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>He works full time. He works on garage doors, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, is something in neat. I know, because

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<v Speaker 2>my garage door breaks constantly. It's infuriating.

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<v Speaker 4>Well so, and I commend him on working full time.

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<v Speaker 4>The issue and what I heard led into a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of different issues for me. Number one, some of the

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<v Speaker 4>advice that I heard was we need to work more,

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<v Speaker 4>need to get another job. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 4>know this, but California dictates child support based off of

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<v Speaker 4>gross income. So the more he works and the more

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<v Speaker 4>money he makes, the more child support he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>end up paying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, there's only two ways that I can think

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<v Speaker 2>of if you if you want to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>financial trouble, and I've been there is Number one, spend

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<v Speaker 2>as little as possible. And number two is bring in

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<v Speaker 2>more income. And even if a percentage of that income

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<v Speaker 2>is going to support your child or or espousal support

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the deal is that you've you made with

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<v Speaker 2>your ex, it's you're still going to come out with

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<v Speaker 2>more money.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the issue, the issue ultimately is California itself. We

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<v Speaker 4>live in a state where it is just not economically

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<v Speaker 4>feasible for people making money under forty grand And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to give you some examples. Number one, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we have unelected boards like to see California Public Utilies

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<v Speaker 4>Commission that just gave pg PG it's sixth rate increase

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<v Speaker 4>this year. We have the California Air Resource board unelected

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<v Speaker 4>board that just is raising our gas tax again coming

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<v Speaker 4>up July. First, we have our health insurance. My health

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<v Speaker 4>insurance mine quadrupled in twenty twenty four. My son, he's five.

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<v Speaker 2>His health Maybe if they didn't spend, you know, tens

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<v Speaker 2>and tens of billions of dollars on legal immigrants in

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<v Speaker 2>your state, you'd be better off. But go ahead, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. I vote read And one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that I wanted to talk about was that forty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of California is read and and what California needs to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think what Public Republican Party needs to do

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<v Speaker 4>is start kind of packaging up this up to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the more moderate in the Independent because this guy

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<v Speaker 4>who's making this money, he just can't afford to live here.

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<v Speaker 4>And and this goes to in another issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, look, I've been in this position. Let me let

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<v Speaker 2>me explain something to you. I've lived paycheck to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 4>I live paycheck to paycheck, so I live paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're living paycheck. And by the way, it sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>it really does. And that's why I offered to help

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<v Speaker 2>the guy out yesterday because I want to see him

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<v Speaker 2>get on his feet. I want him to have a

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<v Speaker 2>place where he can bring his son. And I understand, however,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just giving the advice I practiced myself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>worked out deals with my landlord, you know, to cut

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<v Speaker 2>the lawn and paint the house and hang wallpaper and

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<v Speaker 2>do chores and clean out an old barn that was

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<v Speaker 2>a mess, and do all sorts of things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just to make my rink go down. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>a great landlord that was very accommodating and had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work that I could do. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>it worked out, you know, pretty well for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I worked as much over time as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was also single, and then I lived beneath

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<v Speaker 2>my means. I couldn't even afford to go to McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>at that point in my life. It was it was

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a luxury. At that point in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I would make a meat loaf for the week and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be what I ate all week. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I make I make a mean meat loaf by way.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only way to get ahead is you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to work more hours, make more money, and find

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<v Speaker 2>ways to bring in more income and spend less money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy to do. I'm not saying any of

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy. When my car broke, I had a two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars a condoline van at one point, which was

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<v Speaker 2>my work truck. It was breaking all the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to fix it all the time. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty dollars Ford Maverick nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to fix that myself. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 2>you have to find a way otherwise you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>live in your car. I don't want this guy living

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<v Speaker 2>in his car.

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<v Speaker 4>Point is that we in California are living paycheck to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard an ad on your this radio.

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<v Speaker 2>What's he going to He can't leave his kid behind.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to leave the state and go to

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<v Speaker 2>a better state.

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<v Speaker 4>California voters need to just start voting for different policies

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<v Speaker 4>so that we can afford to live here. Policies that

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<v Speaker 4>allow for home building, policies that allow for companies like

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<v Speaker 4>PGN and CALAM to not just keep jacking our utility

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<v Speaker 4>cor right, Policies that lead for our health insurance to

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<v Speaker 4>start coming down the more money.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's the problem. People that are sick and tired

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<v Speaker 2>of the burdensome taxation regulation, intrusion into their lives, More

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<v Speaker 2>and more of them that would be more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>vote read like you have left your state. I left

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<v Speaker 2>New York for a variety of reasons, not the least

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<v Speaker 2>of which of what you're describing.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, my point is is that simply making more money.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to hear any of my solutions. You're

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<v Speaker 2>saying to me that I gave this guy bad advice

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<v Speaker 2>and simply making more money isn't gonna help. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna hurt you.

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<v Speaker 4>Dinna drive up his healthcare costs and he's gonna pay

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<v Speaker 4>more child support. California needs to start fixing this from

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<v Speaker 4>the inside out. And that's what I'm saying, is.

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<v Speaker 2>That, listen, maybe he just needs one of the ways

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<v Speaker 2>I learned to make money, and it started. This is

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<v Speaker 2>when I began to start to save is I learned

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<v Speaker 2>how to paint houses inside and out, interior exterior, hang wallpaper,

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<v Speaker 2>and lay tile, and I got good. I wasn't good

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<v Speaker 2>at it, I was actually great at it. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a great eye for finish work, and I would work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd start at seven in the morning and I'd finish

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<v Speaker 2>at ten at night, and I'd go get up the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and do it again. And I work Saturdays

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<v Speaker 2>and I work Sundays. I'm not missing his point, Linda

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<v Speaker 2>just said in my ear, you're missing. I'm not missing

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<v Speaker 2>his point that he's saying that if you don't, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do these things, it's still not going to work

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<v Speaker 2>in California. That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Of your net income when you back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think if I may, and I very

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<v Speaker 1>rarely do this, and I think you know that. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are actually agreeing. You're just not saying it the

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<v Speaker 1>same way. The caller is explaining that while what you

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<v Speaker 1>did was out of a good heart and kindness, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to help him in the long run because

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much money he makes, unless he's a

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<v Speaker 1>multi millionaire in California, it will not be enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is to do what he needs to do right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a livable incoming in California. You're right,

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<v Speaker 2>but then follow the rest of my advice. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in more money, right, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring in more monday and money, and under.

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<v Speaker 2>Current county benefit rules, you get screwed. That's what he's saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're still going to have more money after you

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<v Speaker 2>pay your child support. Even if they take away health

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<v Speaker 2>care benefits for a period of time, you're still going

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<v Speaker 2>to have more money in your pocket. If you work

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<v Speaker 2>another twenty hours a week, you will still and you

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<v Speaker 2>pay your child support, whatever your spous will support, You're

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna end up with another, you know, four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bucks a week, which is significant if you're in that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>In my view, that net four hundred How do you

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<v Speaker 4>make an additional four hundred bucks a week net when

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<v Speaker 4>you're already working full time?

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<v Speaker 2>He's working. He's told to me he works forty hours

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<v Speaker 2>a week. Okay, I used to work eighty hours a week.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I still work eighty hours a week.

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<v Speaker 2>If your truth be told, I work a full week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't stop. Linda, how many times do you get

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<v Speaker 2>text from me at four in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time, every day?

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<v Speaker 2>And how many times do you get texts about stories

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<v Speaker 2>all weekend and ideas for the weekend all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>I just say your thought, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>California does not incentivize people to work harder, because if

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<v Speaker 4>this guy make works harder and makes more money. His

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<v Speaker 4>health care costs through medical are going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Double a triple, correct, And you know what, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you paint somebody's house, I'll paint threat room in your house.

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<v Speaker 2>They give you two hundred dollars cash. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>telling people to break the law.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, what I'm saying is California itself the policy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying to just give up because you won't net

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<v Speaker 2>any any money at all, both if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>do it, I agree with your principle. I'm not disagreeing.

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<v Speaker 2>They make it, they disincentivize you. However, if I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have another two hundred dollars a week and working hard,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll still take it. I'd rather have the money and

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<v Speaker 2>have a place for my child in his situation than

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<v Speaker 2>any other consideration. Living in your car with a young

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<v Speaker 2>child is not an option for me. Does that make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>To spend time with your kid? Working eighty hours a week,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be spending our childcare was sixteen hundred a month,

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, sir, So your solution is go work eighty

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<v Speaker 4>hours a week. Okay, So now you've got a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do with your baby and your kid? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's not seeing the baby now because if he's

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<v Speaker 2>living in a car, there's not a judge in the

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<v Speaker 2>country that's gonna let this guy see his kid or

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<v Speaker 2>let the kids stay with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You might as well get You might as well work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>get an apartment, at least see him on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Sundays. Maybe that's all the time, and he'll have

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<v Speaker 2>with the child. It's it's not there's nothing ideal about

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<v Speaker 2>this situation, and government makes it worse. I can see

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<v Speaker 2>your point at the highest level. All right, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had more time. I mean, I feel, I really

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<v Speaker 2>feel for this guy, which is why I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give him at least a start in the hopes that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he'll be able to get a little, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>clean studio apartment, a place when he's free he can

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<v Speaker 2>see his child. Quick break right back, will continue, right,

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