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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now, and we've got a lot to discuss,

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Speaker 2: including the referral to the DOJ of those names from

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Speaker 2: the Russia collusion soft coup attempt of years past, and

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Speaker 2: now the impaneling of a grand jury.

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Speaker 1: A grand jury is now in the mix on this.

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Speaker 3: We shall give you the latest on it and where

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Speaker 3: we think that this is going. Prosecutors are starting that

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Speaker 3: grand jury probe into the Obama era officials of the

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Speaker 3: Russia collusion investigation. Interesting note, Clay, you know, I talked

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Speaker 3: to our friend Miranda Devine on also our friends legitimately

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Speaker 3: these are friends of ours, are also our friend Will

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Speaker 3: Caine's show yesterday? Were you and Jesse last night? Was

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Speaker 3: that right where I see you were somewhere? You're Hannity.

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Speaker 3: You were on someone's show last night? Oh god, I

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Speaker 3: don't know one of them. I was on. I was

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Speaker 3: on what I don't know Will. I was on Will

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Speaker 3: Show too, Oh okay, Will Show.

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Speaker 1: I saw a clip. Okay, there we go. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but in point point being we're talking about this,

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Speaker 3: Clay's Clay's omni prison. You know, what I mean those

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Speaker 3: jackets that he wears. You guys have demanded more.

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Speaker 4: News has got me basically on every day somewhere. So

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Speaker 4: when you asked me, I was like, I couldn't even

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Speaker 4: remember there for a sec where I was on America's

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Speaker 4: newsroom this morning.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, I saw you there, and then your Will Show.

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Speaker 3: My point being he's talking about the Pam Bondi stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the Pam Bondi stuff. Everybody's talking about

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen here in this Russia era Russia

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Speaker 3: collusion investigation, and part of it is I spoke to

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Speaker 3: Miranda Devine on Will Show and she said something I

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Speaker 3: thought was interesting, and maybe we should ping Miranda to

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Speaker 3: come talk to us more about this because she raised

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Speaker 3: this and I hadn't heard this before, So I'm just

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Speaker 3: putting this out there.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the thing. You get to do a

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Speaker 3: hit with some some great people. You know, a hit

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Speaker 3: is our shorthand for TV appearance. But it was wondering

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Speaker 3: and sometimes we'll even learned things in the process. She

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Speaker 3: said Clay that the Statute of limitations issues that clearly

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Speaker 3: would come up in some cases because five years five years.

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Speaker 3: When you're talking about something happened ten years ago, this

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Speaker 3: is not a tough call. Ten year statute of limitations

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Speaker 3: also applies to some things federal crimes that would have run.

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Speaker 3: But if the conspiracy was continued and there was cover

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Speaker 3: up and it even endured during some of the Trump

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Speaker 3: years and beyond perhaps into the Biden years, that would

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Speaker 3: Now I hadn't heard this before, but she indicated this

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Speaker 3: on TV that that could be a part of all

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Speaker 3: of this. Because short of that, I look at this,

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Speaker 3: Clay and I say, I don't understand what the statutory

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Speaker 3: framework would be for the charges yet. I'm not a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: but Play's a lawyer. We're going to get into this.

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Speaker 3: I think the grand jury probe into Obama officials is

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Speaker 3: an interesting step. I am still not convinced it is

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Speaker 3: likely that any of them will face even with a

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Speaker 3: grand jury looking at them criminal charges, but I'm certainly

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Speaker 3: open to and know I could be wrong. What do

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Speaker 3: you see given where this is right now?

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Speaker 4: There are so many different angles that you can analyze

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Speaker 4: this report from the one that I think is paramount

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Speaker 4: and matters more than anything else, is where is the

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Speaker 4: grand jury going to be impaneled, And I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: this widely discussed because to me, it's the only thing

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Speaker 4: that matters, because if they did a DC based grand jury,

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Speaker 4: I think the odds of anybody inside of Obama's administration

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Speaker 4: getting indicted for anything related to Russia collusion or virtually zero.

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Speaker 4: And so I think you would have to find a

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Speaker 4: put it somewhere else. Now, what I've heard being discussed

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Speaker 4: is because of the mar Lago raid, maybe the grand

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Speaker 4: jury is going to be I paneled in somewhere in

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Speaker 4: South Florida as the mar a Lago case was. Here

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Speaker 4: is the challenge with that.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I could put on like one of

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Speaker 3: put me on this grand jury.

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Speaker 4: Well, it would be funny because in theory you could

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Speaker 4: be impaneled as a South Florida resident on one of

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Speaker 4: these grand juries. But I imagine that you would be stricken

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Speaker 1: I would imagine so too. Yes, But.

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Speaker 3: Here is the challenge.

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Speaker 4: So one everything else, all I think that matters is

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Speaker 4: where's the grand jury located?

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Speaker 4: Is there a is the grand jury if it were

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Speaker 4: located in Florida, is that a valid grand jury? And

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Speaker 4: that's where you try to argue, oh, this is all

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Speaker 4: part of one grand conspiracy to get Trump and it

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Speaker 4: includes even the mar A Lago investigation and raid from

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Speaker 4: the FBI. I would imagine that almost immediately you would

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Speaker 4: see where the grand jury is located as a major

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Speaker 4: part of any defense that was offered. And remember this

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Speaker 4: became an issue because initially Jack Smith tried to impanel

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Speaker 4: the Florida Classified Documents case in DC and then up

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Speaker 4: at the last moment and recognize that he had a

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Speaker 4: telling you where this case is headed. Part of me

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Speaker 4: wonders buck whether this is partly just a exercise in

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Speaker 4: the Trump team can just throw up their hands and say,

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Speaker 4: democrats won't indict democrats for committing crimes. We did everything

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Speaker 4: we could in this case, and then they think they

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Speaker 4: win politically because it retains the issue here. But they

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Speaker 4: did everything they could do from a legal process perspective.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? A boy?

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Speaker 4: The way we can take calls on this because I

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Speaker 4: know it's complicated, but I think you've got the number

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Speaker 4: one question that has to be resolved is where is

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Speaker 4: this grand jury going to be? And for those of

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Speaker 4: you out there that don't know, usually indictments are handed

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Speaker 4: ninety five percent or whatever the heck, the percentage is

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Speaker 4: maybe ninety seven percent inclined to favor Democrats. I don't

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Speaker 4: believe they're going to indict Hillary or former Obama officials.

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Speaker 4: Continue if it's.

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Speaker 3: In DC, there's there's no there's I would say no chance.

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Speaker 3: I mean, which is what percent?

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Speaker 4: It's just a political move because they can say we

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Speaker 4: took this to the grand jury, but the DC grand

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Speaker 4: jury would not indict. Remember, I give credit to the

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Speaker 4: is going to be protected by presidential immunity the same

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Speaker 4: not true. And maybe you listen to some of them.

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Speaker 4: I believe they are wrong, and I believe they are

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Speaker 4: getting you fired up with the idea of Oh, Obama's

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Speaker 4: would immediately defend himself by saying, Hey, the same Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court president that applied for Trump related to twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: also applies for me.

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Speaker 3: There's no chance, in my mind zero Obama's going to

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody should think that that's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen. He has immunity while

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Speaker 3: he's president, and trying to prove something after people can

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Speaker 3: write in well what if we find something, Well, you

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Speaker 3: know what if a million different things you could say,

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Speaker 3: But the reality is that's not I think going to

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Speaker 3: to see. The Other problem is, with a lot of

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Speaker 3: to be very hard, even if anybody should have known.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you saw this with the FISA warrants they

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Speaker 3: our authority for the following reasons. Now, there was that

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Speaker 3: one guy who lied. Now we're going back into the right.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing I've been covering for a decade, right,

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Speaker 3: Here there was that lawyer who lied and changed evidence

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Speaker 3: it was Carter Page and removed that he had been

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Speaker 3: along those lines. He was prosecuted and nothing actually ended up.

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Speaker 1: Happening to him.

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Speaker 3: So just remember, I mean, he did not get punished

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Speaker 1: This is the point. It's in DC.

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Speaker 3: To Clay's point, if they bring it in South Florida

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Speaker 1: Get a little bit spicier. That could be a little

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Speaker 4: Here is another legal weeds analysis. I question whether all

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Speaker 4: think connecting all of those issues to argue it's one

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Speaker 4: grand conspiracy is actually a challenging legal proposition because usually,

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Speaker 4: I would argue that those are you know, hopefully we

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Speaker 4: to argue that all of this is interconnected continue matters,

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Speaker 4: otherwise I think most people would say, yeah, the Russia

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Speaker 4: I think the twenty twenty investigation into the election would

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Speaker 4: be DC. But mar Lago is different, so I see

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Speaker 4: those as distinct.

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Speaker 3: I also think part of the frustration, and that's why

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Speaker 3: I believe it's necessary for us to all set our

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Speaker 3: expectations within what is likely. Like I said, I could Pambondy,

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Speaker 3: there could be an announcement, there could be a press

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's impossible or not on the table.

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Speaker 1: I think it's highly unlikely.

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Speaker 3: But I think that part of the frustration, and it's

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Speaker 1: One thought at a time.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the impaneling of a grand jury to

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Speaker 6: Hey, Bellas, thanks a lot, you guys are doing a

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Speaker 6: Almost a fifty year veteran of law enforcement. I've got

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Speaker 3: So that's a good thank you for the thank you

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Speaker 4: of is the conspiracy actually the appropriate venue in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I understand this is complicated, but I'm trying to tell

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Speaker 4: you where we are headed from a legal process and procedure.

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Speaker 4: And this is why it's complicated. Now to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 4: some people are just like, screw it, bring the charges,

443
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Speaker 4: get the story out there. Who cares what happens.

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Speaker 3: This is the eye for an eye approach, which, by

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Speaker 3: the way, I understand I'm not discounting it. I'm just

446
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Speaker 3: saying that that's a different thing than I think we'll

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Speaker 3: be able to take this all the way, get criminal

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Speaker 3: convictions that will be upheld on appeal, and that people

449
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Speaker 3: are going to go to prison. That's a different thing

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Speaker 3: than screw it. Let's just make these guys pay whatever

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Speaker 3: price we can. We know that they're scumbags. That's also

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Speaker 3: that's also a valid philosophical position. Let's get Roger in

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Speaker 3: a story of Queens.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Roger?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, you just stole my thunder there. Uh oh,

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Speaker 5: what I was going to say is what I was

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Speaker 5: going to say is I think it's what's going on now?

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Speaker 6: Is a success.

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Speaker 5: You know, uh, you've got uh Obama, You've got Comy,

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Speaker 5: You've got Brennan. And to them, their egos are so

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Speaker 5: large that you know that they want to be thought

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Speaker 5: of as gods. And this is bringing them down. This

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Speaker 5: is showing the people just you know what type of

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Speaker 5: political hacks they were, and.

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Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, that's the Thank you, Roger.

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Speaker 3: This is the political Yeah, this is the political accountability

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Speaker 3: part of it, which I think I do think is

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Speaker 3: important and valid. So thank you for calling in on that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's Clai. I think that's real. The more

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Speaker 3: people know how gross and underhanded these efforts were, it

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Speaker 3: stays with them longer. And some of these people still

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Speaker 3: think they should have a say. I mean, certainly Obama

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Speaker 3: does in our public, public discourse and in national elections.

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Speaker 4: I also think this is important to build on what

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Speaker 4: he said about the process and having some sort of

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Speaker 4: public hearing on this and a reckoning for lack of

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Speaker 4: a better way to say it. You know, when Trump

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Speaker 4: got charged, we told all of you four months they're

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Speaker 4: going to charge him.

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Speaker 3: This is coming.

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Speaker 4: We don't think it's legitimate, but we're laying out all

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Speaker 4: of the different parameters associated with it on the left,

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Speaker 4: if charges come down, does that audience have any idea

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Speaker 4: that there's enough legitimacy for charges to be brought here?

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Speaker 4: Because they've been told all of Russia collusion was true.

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Speaker 4: They've been told everything that Tulsea Gabbard said is made up.

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Speaker 4: There's no legitimacy to it.

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Speaker 3: What's so aver?

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Speaker 4: You, guys, meaning everybody listening to us right now, you

490
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Speaker 4: are super well informed. We covered it aggressively on New

491
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Speaker 4: York City, on Atlanta, on South Florida, on DC, and

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Speaker 4: we really kind of told you where we were headed,

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Speaker 4: what was likely to come. I don't think any of

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Speaker 4: you were shocked by what you saw transpire there. What

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Speaker 4: is the average MSNBC viewer or New York Times reader

496
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Speaker 4: going to think if suddenly indictments come down for lies

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Speaker 4: associated with Russia collusion? I think that's a real Now.

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Speaker 4: They're probably going to say, oh, this is unprecedented, this

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Speaker 4: is a president in valid. But I think the point

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Speaker 4: you're making is they will be completely blind shot.

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Speaker 3: Out of nowhere lighting that this could occur. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I think that's right. Greg and Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Greg?

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Speaker 8: Well truck drivers. So my favorite time of the day

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Speaker 8: is twelve to three here in Florida.

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Speaker 1: But I love our truck drivers. Thank you, Greg.

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Speaker 8: No problem. What's that quo all stairs, love and war?

509
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Speaker 8: I think it should be love, war and politics. I

510
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Speaker 8: think we should go blow to blow with them, and

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Speaker 8: if we can't get them legally at least well at

512
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Speaker 8: least try to get them on accountability a little bit

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Speaker 8: more and like Clay saying, bring the light to what

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Speaker 8: they're doing, more people will know. And if we can't

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Speaker 8: get them legally, at least morally and ethically, people have

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Speaker 8: a little bit bigger open eyes and realize what they've

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Speaker 8: done and remember that with future elections and anything else

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Speaker 8: that comes up.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great call.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really what you should expect and

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Speaker 4: hope to have occurring here is just a public reckoning,

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Speaker 4: even if we don't get a criminal court reckoning, because

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you this is going to get bogged down

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Speaker 4: by the way, a lot of three and four thousand

525
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Speaker 4: dollars an hour criminal defense attorneys in DC buck that

526
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Speaker 4: are just rubbing their hands with glee because they want

527
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Speaker 4: charges to come down. Because you know who the real

528
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Speaker 4: winner here is criminal defense lawyers because Democrats are going

529
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Speaker 4: to pay them tens of millions of dollars in legal

530
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Speaker 4: defense fees that all their rich benefactors, the Soroses of

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Speaker 4: the world, are going to fund, and those guys are

532
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Speaker 4: just like, it's bonus seasoned baby, I'm going to go

533
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Speaker 4: buy a new house. I'm telling you right now. That's

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Speaker 4: exactly the conversations they're having Ruth and Cape Coral, Florida.

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Speaker 4: A lot of Florida representatives representation rather on today's show.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Ruth, Hi, good afternoon. Clay in back, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 9: calling about presidential immunity, but before I get into my

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Speaker 9: points on that, just wanted to make a quick observation

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Speaker 9: about Grand Conspiracy. You were indicating that you felt that

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Speaker 9: the parts of the Grand Conspiracy were all separate. But

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Speaker 9: I think if they have evidence showing that the same

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Speaker 9: people coordinated all these efforts, jam clear Clay.

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear, Clay thinks that it's very hard

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Speaker 3: to prove the I'm buck, He's Clay. He thinks it's

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Speaker 3: very hard to prove the Grand Conspiracy all ties to get,

547
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Speaker 3: so you're saying you think it'll be easier than he

548
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Speaker 3: maybe thinks.

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Speaker 9: If they have evidence showing that the same people perpetrayed

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Speaker 9: the conspiracy that I think.

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Speaker 4: My argument with that is, let me just say, like

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Speaker 4: Barack Obama was definitely involved in the Russia investigation and collusion,

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Speaker 4: I don't think Barack Obama was involved in the decision

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Speaker 4: for the FBI to raid the Department of Justice, right, so.

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Speaker 1: All, yeah, sorry to raid mar Lago.

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Speaker 4: He was not in office at that point, so for

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Speaker 4: him to be involved in that, I think it's hard

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Speaker 4: to have conspirators that are part of a conspiracy for

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Speaker 4: one conspiracy and not for another, and so I think

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Speaker 4: it's separate. Ruth, you had another point, though we got

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Speaker 4: only about thirty seconds, but go for it.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I do. I do, okay with absolute presidential immunity.

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Speaker 9: There were two parts to that Supreme Court decision. One

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Speaker 9: was absolute immunity, the other was presumed immunity, and they

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Speaker 9: kicked it back to the lower courts so that they

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Speaker 9: would have to determine which were official acts in which

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Speaker 9: were not. But if you remember, it was one of

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Speaker 9: the liberal justices Kanji Brown or Tagan or so money

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Speaker 9: or that says, oh, what if he ordered somebody to

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Speaker 9: go out and kill somebody, you know, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that this wouldn't be covered under official acts,

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 9: Saying yes, I am saying they have some emails right now,

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Speaker 9: as far as I understand that the Russians had hacked

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Speaker 9: into either the DNC or Hillary's computer that show that

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Speaker 9: Obama and Hillary knew that they were contriving the Russia conspiracy.

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Speaker 9: And that's not an official presidential act.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. Thank you, thank you, Ruth.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any Obama emails where he's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: those fake emails, let's pin them on Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that he didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't think there's any emails that

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Speaker 3: will show it with that level of clarity. Here's the problem, Clay,

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Speaker 3: any conversations that Obama, as president at the time, is

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Speaker 3: having with the FBI director, with the CIA direct any

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Speaker 3: of that is going to be considered under his official

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Speaker 3: duty in terms of decisions made within their purview, of surveillance,

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Speaker 3: of contact with the press, all of that. You're never

589
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Speaker 3: going to get around that. What Ruth said is there

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Speaker 3: was a hypothetical. My recollection is what if the president

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Speaker 3: just decided he wanted to assassinate someone could have If

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Speaker 3: the president killed a maid in the Oval office because

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Speaker 3: he was in a bad move, that's not an official act.

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Speaker 3: That's clearly not covered. But talking to the FBI director

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Speaker 3: about surveillance that's going to be covered, or ordering Seal

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Speaker 3: Team six to take out somebody in a foreign country,

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Speaker 3: arguably that's within the presidential provinces too, Right, So I

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Speaker 3: think Obama just you got to take him off the table.

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Speaker 1: It's unlikely to happen.

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Speaker 1: Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, It does, but

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Speaker 3: it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The

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Speaker 4: Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens

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Speaker 1: Well that's an understatement.

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Speaker 3: Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase

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Speaker 3: Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal specialist

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Speaker 3: He's been there since day one. In fact, a major

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Speaker 4: Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip

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Speaker 4: We have been discussing the potential on the Grand Jury

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Speaker 4: investigation on Russia collusion. Lots of you still weighing in

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Speaker 4: on that. We will continue to break down more on

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Speaker 4: that as we move forward. But there also is additional

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Speaker 4: ridiculous ongoing outcome associated with the Epstein fallout, the Epstein

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Speaker 4: continued investigation, so I figure we should go ahead and

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Speaker 4: give you the latest on this as well. Representative James

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Speaker 4: Comer has subpoenaed the following people, President Bill Clinton, Secretary

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Speaker 4: of State Hillary former Secretary of State obviously Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 4: and others. Let me hit you some of these. Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 4: James Comy, Bill Barr, Alberto Gonzalez both these are both

670
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Speaker 4: Republican and Democrat Attorney Generals, Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder.

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Speaker 4: All of these people being called for deposition through subpoena

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Speaker 4: Bill Clinton October fourteenth, Hillary Clinton October ninth, and then

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Speaker 4: basically every attorney general. It looks like nearly of the

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Speaker 4: past twenty years, all of them being put under oath.

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Speaker 4: Relating to the Epstein case. I guess the one detail

676
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Speaker 4: that we really haven't talked very much about. We don't

677
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Speaker 4: know what the only person ever convicted in the Epstein case,

678
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Speaker 4: Julane Maxwell, told the Deputy Attorney General when she was interviewed.

679
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Speaker 4: We do know that they have moved her from Tallahassee

680
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Speaker 4: to a lower security prison in Texas. I believe that

681
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Speaker 4: is the latest on Epstein. I don't know what the

682
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Speaker 4: expectation is at this point, but they're going to put

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Speaker 4: everybody under oath and probably ask them what they knew

684
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Speaker 4: about Jeffrey Epstein. And that is now scheduled to be

685
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Speaker 4: happening in September and October on Capitol Hill. What's your

686
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: take on this buck not gonna happen, meaning no additional

687
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Speaker 4: charges are coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And should I start just saying it's gonna happen just

690
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Speaker 3: because people a gonna get mad at me?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it just started. It's all gonna the justice will

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Speaker 1: be done.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't think that you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: these these the kind of people you're talking about, these names, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is It's just I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: My concern on Epstein is I feel like we are

697
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Speaker 4: trending towards a place where it's more likely that Julaane

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Speaker 4: Maxwell is pardoned and nobody ever goes to prison for

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Speaker 4: anything related to Epstein than there are other people who

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Speaker 4: are charged with crimes.

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Speaker 3: What is the rationale for even a conversation about her

702
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Speaker 3: being pardoned? So it's a fantastic question, and I think

703
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: what the pardon would potentially entail is, Hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: pardon you from all crimes, and then we will bring

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Speaker 3: you in and put you in front of Congress of

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Speaker 3: a committee, and you will answer every question under the

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Speaker 3: sun about Epstein. So I have a question about that rationale,

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Speaker 3: which I think you've just established what it is. She

709
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Speaker 3: didn't do that before.

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Speaker 1: She was facing twenty five years in federal prison.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, she wasn't willing to give up the goods to

712
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Speaker 3: avoid going away for a few decades previously. Come on, everybody,

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Speaker 3: let's you know, let's let's let's be real on this

714
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Speaker 3: one now. All of a sudden, she's got all the

715
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Speaker 3: stuff and she's gonna lay it all out there. The one, now,

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Speaker 3: the only one.

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Speaker 4: I think you agree with me that that's the rationale

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Speaker 4: for the only reason that there would be any reason

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Speaker 4: to give her a pardon. The other one would be

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Speaker 4: some people would say she did no crimes and she

721
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Speaker 4: was the fall girl in this context, But she was

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Speaker 4: convicted by a jury after a criminal trial of sex

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Speaker 4: trafficking on behalf of Epstein. So you're then tossing the

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Speaker 4: jury's conviction out the window and saying, oh, the jury

725
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Speaker 4: got it wrong if you are saying that she was

726
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Speaker 4: the fall girl, as it were, for the larger Epstein crimes.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: So this is something buck that I think nobody ever mentions,

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Speaker 4: and I do think it's significant, and we talked about

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Speaker 4: it on this program, and I haven't heard anybody else

731
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Speaker 4: even talk about it. People say, well, what about all

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Speaker 4: the victims, what about all the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Don't they deserve justice? All those things I think are

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Speaker 1: very true.

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Speaker 4: Around one hundred and twenty five or one hundred and

736
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Speaker 4: thirty Jeffrey Epstein alleged victims in civil court sued and

737
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Speaker 4: got paid almost five hundred million dollars. So it's like

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Speaker 4: the civil cases settlements, no one ever mentions. So for

739
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: people out there who say, wait, what about all these

740
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Speaker 4: people that were victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, they allowed all

741
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Speaker 4: of them to come forward tell their stories, and nearly

742
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Speaker 4: five hundred million dollars in settlements from Epstein's estate and

743
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Speaker 4: other banks that had advised him were paid out. So

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Speaker 4: I just think when you look at this larger mushroom cloud.

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Speaker 1: Epstein is dead. We all agree on that. So then

746
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Speaker 1: what we know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's very many people who think Epstein

748
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Speaker 4: stile alive, although I do sometimes here for people, you know,

749
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Speaker 4: he's not really dead.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what. I haven't heard that, but I

751
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Speaker 3: haven't even heard on the internet.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I just the other thing is, if you have Gilenn

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Speaker 3: Maxwell and she's going to testify in some way, it

756
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Speaker 3: would just you know, what is the process here through

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Speaker 3: which she's going to say things about people that will

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Speaker 3: then be considered So is her word credible enough.

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Speaker 1: To indict or destroy a person?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what we're talking about here, and

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Speaker 3: we're going to believe that this person who has been

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Speaker 3: convicted for sex trafficking, who then is pardoned on the

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Speaker 3: idea that she's then going to tell us the whole

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Speaker 3: truth and nothing but the truth. That's a tremendous amount

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Speaker 3: of power. You're giving this woman then to decide who

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Speaker 3: gets destroyed and who doesn't based on her word that

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Speaker 3: they did something, that someone did something illicit as part

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Speaker 3: of Epstein ring.

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: No, I get it. So I just to me, we've

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Speaker 3: we've looked at we went down this pathway, and there

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Speaker 3: was an opportunity for her to avoid any prison time

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Speaker 3: I would assume, or at least far substantial farce reduced

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Speaker 3: from what she got if she would just name the names.

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Speaker 3: And then there's the opportunity to go get evidence and

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Speaker 3: bring indictments. But what is supposed to I don't see

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Speaker 3: how this is supposed to work. That you're gonna someone's

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Speaker 3: gonna Trump is gonna pardon her. Then she's gonna come

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Speaker 3: forward and she's gonna say, Okay, guess what, Epstein's the

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Speaker 3: only person who committed any sex crimes.

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Speaker 4: And then what I just come back, And again I

782
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Speaker 4: don't know why this. I think probably because it's sealed,

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Speaker 4: but for everybody out there, because I do think this

784
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Speaker 4: is the most compelling argument. If you're out there and

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Speaker 4: you're saying, Hey, what about all these people who were

786
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Speaker 4: victims of Epstein? Do they not deserve justice? I think

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Speaker 4: that's a.

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Speaker 1: Very They got a lot of money, so that's part

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Speaker 1: one of it.

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Speaker 4: They got five hundred million dollars. I'm assuming all of

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Speaker 4: that is sealed. But as part of the way that

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Speaker 4: they distributed the five hundred million dollars, they had to

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Speaker 4: determine why some people were paid some amounts and others

794
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Speaker 4: were paid lesser amounts. Right, they didn't all get the

795
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Speaker 4: same amount, So in theory there was a culpability associated

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Speaker 4: with that, and if there were criminal charges that could

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Speaker 4: have come. They did a court investigation on the civil

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Speaker 4: side that I would think would be accessible and able

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Speaker 4: to be reviewed, and I can't imagine they just didn't

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Speaker 4: charge people. So the reason why I bring all this

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00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: up is it basically feels to me, you tell me

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Speaker 4: if you disagree on this buck. As we are now

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Speaker 4: in the summer of Trump two point zero, Democrats really

804
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: don't have anything to attack him on on the economy.

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Speaker 4: They don't really have anything to attack him on on

806
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: the border. They can say, hey, Ice, is you know,

807
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: taking too many people out of the country, But that

808
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: hasn't really worked. Crime is plummeting nationwide. I mean, this

809
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: is a very good thing. And so it seems like

810
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Speaker 4: we're just engaged in a lot of legal procedural battles.

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Speaker 4: That is the resistance two point zero Epstein's part of them.

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Speaker 4: There's punches being thrown on the other side related to

813
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Speaker 4: Russia collusion. There's the ongoing battles over birthright citizenship and

814
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Speaker 4: what exactly are the limits of the president's powers when

815
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Speaker 4: it comes to tariffs. It feels to me, tell me

816
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: if you disagree, like every day when it comes to

817
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Speaker 4: Trump opposition, it's just some federal district court judge or

818
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: some older criminal related conspiracy examination that is largely being examined.

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Speaker 4: Almost nothing is present day. Does that make sense. It's

820
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Speaker 4: like we're relitigating all of the controversies of the Trump

821
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 4: era now in real time, and much of the actual

822
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: work that's being done on a day to day basis

823
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Speaker 4: isn't really being talked or acknowledged in any kind of

824
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: substantial way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think part of this is because the Trump administration

827
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Speaker 3: has been so sick sucessful so far that they've had

828
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Speaker 3: to get very creative in the ways that they creative

829
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Speaker 3: is a kind way of saying it. Attack the administration.

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Speaker 3: I think also the administration stumbled here with the pete,

831
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Speaker 3: with the public relations aspect and the transparency aspect of

832
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Speaker 3: promising big rep We've gone over this a million times, okay, already,

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Speaker 3: the public relations component of the full you know, the binders,

834
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Speaker 3: the influencers, the big stuff is coming, It's on my

835
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Speaker 3: desk and everything else. And then actually, no additional charges

836
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Speaker 3: and really no additional information is going to be released.

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Speaker 3: That was a that was a bait and switch, and

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Speaker 3: people recognize it as such. Whether I mean, do you

839
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Speaker 3: even think that these individuals are going to some of them,

840
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Speaker 3: you're going to sab poenal Loretta Lynch, I mean, what

841
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Speaker 3: do you think is going to be said by her

842
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Speaker 3: about this?

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Speaker 4: I just I think they're all going to Here's what

844
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Speaker 4: I would advise. I mean, I would tell them all

845
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Speaker 4: to take the fifth. I don't see how they gain

846
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Speaker 4: at all by even answering questions, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Well, so Retta Lynch, like you're gonna you think she's

849
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: gonna sit there and be like, you know what, I

850
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: was part of a big conspiracy to cover up the

851
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Speaker 3: Epstein stuff because of the high level democrats that were

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Speaker 3: you know, implicated in the in the sex ring. No,

853
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: it's not going to happen. So to your point, people

854
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: are now doing things to do things. They're doing things

855
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: to say I'm doing a thing. What is the end

856
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: result of that thing going to be? Unless the people

857
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Speaker 3: that they're subpoenaing are total morons, nothing, that's what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 4: Like, do you think that Bill Clinton's going to say

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Speaker 4: under oath, I love sleeping with fifteen year old girls

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Speaker 4: that Jeffrey Epstein provided for me. I think that's highly unlikely.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that Hillary Clinton's gonna say, Hey, we

863
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: knew that there were tons of really powerful people who

864
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Speaker 4: had relations with Jeffrey Epstein in some way, and we

865
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Speaker 4: covered up all their crimes. I suspect that they will

866
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Speaker 4: have a written statement prepared by their four thousand dollars

867
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Speaker 4: an hour attorney that represents whatever they want to put

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Speaker 4: on the public record. They will read it and then

869
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Speaker 4: they will say this is all I'm going to say,

870
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Speaker 4: and maybe they fight whether the subpoena is even valid.

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Speaker 4: By the way, every Attorney General Bill Barr, you think

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Speaker 4: Bill Barr was covering up Epstein related crimes. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they got every attorney general Democrat and Republican basically of

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Speaker 4: the last twenty years, and they're going to call them

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Speaker 4: in and aggressively question them on Epstein. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think Epstein was to be fair. When you're the attorney general,

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Speaker 4: there are so many cases that you are monitoring on

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Speaker 4: a day to day basis that I bet Bill Barr

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Speaker 4: spent like zero point one percent of his time as

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Speaker 4: attorney general. If that relating to anything having to do

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Speaker 4: with Epstein, that would be my guess. And so anyway,

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Speaker 4: I think the result of the mis communication is now

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Speaker 4: that there is a flood the zone strategy where you

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Speaker 4: try to get as much information out as you possibly can.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't think there's much there there.

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Speaker 3: But I do you want to?

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is getting a lot of attention today.

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Speaker 4: Comber has subpoenaed all these people, and they're all going

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Speaker 4: to be brought in over the next couple of months,

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Speaker 4: and I imagine every day that they talk there will

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Speaker 4: be in some way big stories about the fact that

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Speaker 4: they're going to talk, and then I think that there's

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Speaker 4: likely to be very little that is actually newsworthy that

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Speaker 4: comes out of their under a testimony.

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Speaker 1: That's my prediction.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, and we shall see perhaps something big breaks.

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Speaker 4: This is where I do think I never would have

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Speaker 4: believed Buck that I would go to law school and

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Speaker 4: basically every case that now we just talk about is well,

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Speaker 4: that depends on what the courts are going to do.

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Speaker 4: That depends on what the judges are going to do.

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Speaker 4: This is basically Trump two point zero. There is no

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Speaker 4: overarching opposition to him outside of the existing court systems. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: I want to tell you as we go to to

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Speaker 4: break here by the way, you guys are welcome to

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Speaker 4: weigh in. I don't think there's anything else out there

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Speaker 4: that we are missing. But I did want to both

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Speaker 4: of these big stories because again it is the DOJ

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Speaker 4: grand jury relating to Russia collusion and the subpoenas going

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Speaker 4: out relating to Epstein are receiving massive amounts of attention

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Speaker 4: out there. But I don't know that there's some huge

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Speaker 4: revelatory moment that's going to come. But you guys are

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Speaker 4: alleged to you. Guys can dive in and figure out

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Speaker 4: even heard this full yet. I saw the headline and

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Speaker 4: I said, oh my goodness, this is going to be fun.

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Speaker 4: Texas State Representative Joe Landa Jones, who has fled the

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Speaker 4: state to Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Rather than have Joe Landa joh Yolanda usually I think

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Speaker 3: is how you know?

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Speaker 1: Is it Joelnda?

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Speaker 4: According to our team, it is Jolanda, so Yolanda is

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Speaker 4: typically a is typically a name that would be popular.

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Speaker 4: But this, according to our team, is Joelanda. I'm maybe

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Speaker 4: it's pronounced no. No, you're probably right, You're probably right. She

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Speaker 4: has fled the state to protest redistricting in Texas. She says,

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Speaker 4: this is just like the Holocaust, cut twenty nine.

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Speaker 11: And integration happen and everybody thought they accept this. They

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Speaker 11: don't accept this. They are showing us who they are.

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Speaker 11: We should believe them, and we better have the courage

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Speaker 11: to stand up otherwise we will fall for anything. And

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Speaker 11: in this country we will be defeated, deported, I mean,

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Speaker 11: we will lose all of our rights. And if you

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Speaker 11: think it can't happen, it can.

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Speaker 3: And I will liken this to the Holocaust.

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Speaker 11: People are like, well, how did the Holocaust happen? How

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Speaker 11: is somebody in the position to kill all their people? Well,

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Speaker 11: good people remain silent, or good people didn't realize that

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Speaker 11: what happens to them can very soon happen to me

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Speaker 11: or somebody I love.

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Speaker 3: And so you and even so.

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Speaker 11: Even if you made it, man, you have an obligation

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Speaker 11: to help people who came, because God forbid, they end

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Speaker 11: up targeting you and your family.

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Speaker 3: So Joe Wanda, it is the jay Joe Wanda.

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Speaker 4: They are saying, boy, if Texas redistricts, next thing it's

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Speaker 4: going to happen is concentration camps.

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Speaker 3: These people. How far are democrats from? I had to

983
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Speaker 3: wait in line at the DMV for too long. It's

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Speaker 3: basically the Holocaust. I just want to know what is

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Speaker 3: really the like, what is the barrier, what is the

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Speaker 3: the the the.

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Speaker 1: The level that you have to reach for a Holocaust comparison?

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Speaker 3: Now, you know they didn't they didn't have my favorite

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Speaker 3: you know, my favorite sneakers at the store I went to.

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Speaker 1: It's basically the Holocaust.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, that's that's where we are, and this

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Speaker 4: is what we were having jokes about. But no one in America,

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Speaker 4: Joe Wanda included as a general rule, has any knowledge

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Speaker 4: whatsoever of history. So everything has got to be analogized

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Speaker 4: to the Nazis.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if I can, if I can, if I just

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Speaker 3: if I compared everything to like the like, imagine if

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00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: I compared it to another genocide, you know, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know this is it's like the Cambodian It's like

1000
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Speaker 3: the Cambodian genocide. Out here man, Like it's I've had

1001
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Speaker 3: to wait, you know, fifteen minutes for my my takeout order.

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Speaker 1: People would be like, you're a sick weirdo.

1003
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Speaker 3: Like why would you you know, it's nothing like the

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Speaker 3: Cambodian genocide million people plus, you know, brutal mert. But

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Speaker 3: you can say you can do.

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Speaker 1: This thing now.

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Speaker 3: Among among Demo I will say, Republicans, don't, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see this. I don't see our.

1009
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Speaker 3: Side going oh you know, I had to wait in

1010
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Speaker 3: traffic too long. It was basically the Holocaust, Like Democrats

1011
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Speaker 3: will do this now. Yeah, they totally do.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, that is, as you were just

1013
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: laying out, that's their standard go to because we'll play tomorrow.

1014
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: They're still trying to call Trump hitler, which is funny

1015
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: in and of itself. But I think we're representative of

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Speaker 4: how they have continued to fail. And I think we

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Speaker 4: have a funny talk back, We have a good talk

1018
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Speaker 4: about We've got some good VIP emails. Do the talk

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Speaker 4: back first, but I got some emails lined up for

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Speaker 4: you of the sartorial variety. Oh no, oh no, what

1021
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Speaker 4: did we have? We had somebody who wanted to talk

1022
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Speaker 4: about sat Sweeney.

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Speaker 1: AA. That's one good one, I think.

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Speaker 12: A claim Bucks Brian from Jacksonville love your show, But man,

1025
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Speaker 12: today's not a good one. First hour and a half

1026
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 12: spent on two topics that are going to lead to thing.

1027
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Speaker 12: Let's talk about something important like Sidney Sweeney's boobs.

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00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: There you go, try to try to break down the

1029
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Speaker 4: huge complexity everybody Russia collusion.

1030
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Speaker 3: Yet all this stuff last week about too much Clay

1031
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: boobs talk and now we get not enough boob I

1032
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Speaker 3: don't know what to do.

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00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to just keep it flowing, keep

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Speaker 1: it moving.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know we got any negativity about that.

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00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: I got, hey, talk about boobs more. What do you

1037
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Speaker 4: got talk back on clothes? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I got VIP emails on clothes. Melanie writes in saw

1039
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Speaker 3: Clay on the Will Canshow yesterday I actually ran into

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Speaker 3: the room just to see what he was wearing. Much

1041
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Speaker 3: better exclamation point. So Melanie thinks you're taking notes and

1042
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Speaker 3: you're doing a good job. Unlike Deborah, who says, Buck,

1043
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Speaker 3: I love you, but that pale yellow jacket looks terrible.

1044
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't flatter your complexion. Ask your wife for color advice.

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Speaker 3: You have a cool or maybe neutral skin tone and

1046
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Speaker 3: need more vibrant or cooler colors. Pale yellow ain't working.

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Speaker 3: How about blues or greens? Love you, Deborah, Love you too. However,

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Speaker 3: it is a cream colored jacket. And I am here

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Speaker 3: in South Florida, in Miami Beach, no less where we

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Speaker 3: wear these kinds of jackets. And I don't want to

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Speaker 3: always look exactly like the host, because I have a

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Speaker 3: closet full of navy blue jackets that I can wear.

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Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes we like to spice it up

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Speaker 3: a little bit on the air. So I will take

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Speaker 3: how about this? I will take it under advisement and

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Speaker 3: bless your heart. I like to bless your heart. Just

1057
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Speaker 3: sounding very much like a Southerner here. Most people would

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Speaker 3: just prefer that you only be a navy or black

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Speaker 3: in this audience.

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Speaker 4: I think I know, but that I'm knowing a disservice

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Speaker 4: to the beautiful color palettes across the rainbow. Here is

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Speaker 4: Josh and Oklahoma. To close this out, more fun, what

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Speaker 4: you got, Josh?

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Speaker 1: This question is for Clay.

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Speaker 3: Why do you decide to die on these hills?

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Speaker 13: Firsts the leaf flowers, then it's the flute players, and

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Speaker 13: now it's the attractive Kamala Harris take. I respect the

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Speaker 13: fact that you stand by your decisions and you're not

1069
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Speaker 13: swayed by any opinion at all, But I just got

1070
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Speaker 13: to ask, man, why the dedication of these things.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you're controlling with your Kamala take. I think,

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Speaker 3: but you're not.

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Speaker 4: Sixty year old Kamala Harris is far better looking than

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Speaker 4: the average sixty year old woman in America's.

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Speaker 3: I don't even understand. That's a crazy take at all.

1076
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Speaker 3: I don't even understand how we're still talking about it.

1077
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Speaker 3: I was just even getting anyone's attention out there, But.

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Speaker 1: Here we are. I am being super kind to the

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Speaker 1: beautiful Kamala