1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:25,075 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Brian 2 00:00:25,235 --> 00:00:30,595 Speaker 1: Kilmead must be fired even by Fox even today, fired now. 3 00:00:31,635 --> 00:00:34,795 Speaker 1: The co host of the Fox News Morning program called 4 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:39,635 Speaker 1: for America's homeless to be killed by quote involuntary, lethal 5 00:00:39,675 --> 00:00:46,915 Speaker 1: injection or something. Just kill them un quote. Kill the homeless, 6 00:00:47,075 --> 00:00:51,755 Speaker 1: including America's thirty three thousand homeless veterans. He did not 7 00:00:51,875 --> 00:00:55,955 Speaker 1: exclude them. He called for this, and he got away 8 00:00:55,995 --> 00:01:01,195 Speaker 1: with it. Last Wednesday. He said this last Wednesday. Kill 9 00:01:01,355 --> 00:01:05,475 Speaker 1: the homeless, veterans, Kill the homeless children, Kill the six 10 00:01:05,555 --> 00:01:08,795 Speaker 1: hundred thousand homeless who are not veterans or children, lethal 11 00:01:08,835 --> 00:01:15,315 Speaker 1: injection or something. Just kill them. Fox News Rupert Murdoch, 12 00:01:15,395 --> 00:01:18,235 Speaker 1: same company as The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post. 13 00:01:18,635 --> 00:01:23,555 Speaker 1: Murdering the homeless, mass murdering the homeless took him four 14 00:01:23,715 --> 00:01:29,635 Speaker 1: days to apologize. Took Brian Killmead four days to apologize. 15 00:01:29,675 --> 00:01:34,395 Speaker 1: Four days. He apologized only because he got caught. Fraud 16 00:01:34,435 --> 00:01:41,195 Speaker 1: apology fraud host, FNC, fraud News Channel. He said what 17 00:01:41,235 --> 00:01:43,995 Speaker 1: he said because it's in his heart, and he got 18 00:01:43,995 --> 00:01:46,155 Speaker 1: away with it because it is in the hearts of 19 00:01:46,195 --> 00:01:49,355 Speaker 1: the people who run fraud News Channel, and they got 20 00:01:49,395 --> 00:01:51,115 Speaker 1: away with it because it is in the heart of 21 00:01:51,115 --> 00:01:55,555 Speaker 1: the monster who has run that place and ruined this world, 22 00:01:55,715 --> 00:02:04,195 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch. Nothing has happened to Brian Killmead, nothing but 23 00:02:04,275 --> 00:02:06,635 Speaker 1: a couple of x Republicans who have a soft spot 24 00:02:06,635 --> 00:02:10,755 Speaker 1: for him personally and who are understandably shocked that anybody 25 00:02:10,835 --> 00:02:16,995 Speaker 1: at fraud NewsChannel would apologize for anything kind of complimented him. 26 00:02:20,715 --> 00:02:24,555 Speaker 1: Complimented him because while he got caught and then weekly 27 00:02:24,595 --> 00:02:30,635 Speaker 1: and briefly and fraudulently apologized, Brian Kilmead apologized, he said 28 00:02:30,715 --> 00:02:33,275 Speaker 1: calling for the homeless, or as he referred to them, 29 00:02:33,675 --> 00:02:37,955 Speaker 1: them to die by involuntary lethal injection or something, just 30 00:02:38,035 --> 00:02:43,115 Speaker 1: kill them, that was callous on his part. It went 31 00:02:43,155 --> 00:02:46,315 Speaker 1: out on their propaganda channel last Wednesday morning, hours before 32 00:02:46,395 --> 00:02:49,155 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was murdered, and the orgy of right wing 33 00:02:49,315 --> 00:02:52,715 Speaker 1: bullshit began that the left, and only the left, uses 34 00:02:52,835 --> 00:02:56,475 Speaker 1: or threatens violence, and kill Mead, who has been the 35 00:02:56,515 --> 00:03:00,595 Speaker 1: often literally unintelligible co host of the Fox News Morning 36 00:03:00,595 --> 00:03:05,635 Speaker 1: Show since nineteen ninety eight, agreed with another host that 37 00:03:05,755 --> 00:03:10,435 Speaker 1: homeless people who refuse treatment programs should be institutionalized or 38 00:03:10,915 --> 00:03:13,395 Speaker 1: locked up in jail. The other guy said, and then 39 00:03:13,475 --> 00:03:19,555 Speaker 1: kill mead added quote, or involuntary lethal injection. The other speaker, 40 00:03:20,075 --> 00:03:24,235 Speaker 1: a man named Lawrence Jones, said yeah, and then kill 41 00:03:24,275 --> 00:03:29,795 Speaker 1: mead finished this thought or something just kill them end quote. 42 00:03:29,835 --> 00:03:33,955 Speaker 1: The third host, who was reportedly Sean Hannity's girlfriend, swerved 43 00:03:33,995 --> 00:03:37,755 Speaker 1: away from this, probably accidentally, to give kill Mead to 44 00:03:37,835 --> 00:03:40,875 Speaker 1: do what Fox always does, the opportunity to turn everything 45 00:03:40,915 --> 00:03:45,635 Speaker 1: into an illegal campaign contribution. This time, he segued from 46 00:03:45,715 --> 00:03:50,995 Speaker 1: killing the homeless to advocating for Republican candidates in North Carolina, 47 00:03:51,315 --> 00:03:55,955 Speaker 1: the homeless should face arrest or institutionalization or quoting Brian killmead, 48 00:03:56,275 --> 00:04:01,435 Speaker 1: in voluntary lethal injection or something, just kill them mass 49 00:04:02,155 --> 00:04:08,715 Speaker 1: murder owing this nodding Lawrence Jones, who agreed with kill 50 00:04:08,755 --> 00:04:11,915 Speaker 1: me Not even a fraud apology from him, nothing from 51 00:04:11,955 --> 00:04:17,075 Speaker 1: Fox about him either. Nothing. We are in such a 52 00:04:17,115 --> 00:04:19,515 Speaker 1: place in this country, thanks to Trump, thanks to MAGA, 53 00:04:19,555 --> 00:04:22,115 Speaker 1: thanks to the late Charlie Kirk, thanks to the Tea Party, 54 00:04:22,155 --> 00:04:25,155 Speaker 1: thanks to Bush, thanks to Rush Limbaugh, thanks to the 55 00:04:25,195 --> 00:04:29,595 Speaker 1: list continues backwards almost indefinitely and infinitely, We're in such 56 00:04:29,595 --> 00:04:33,235 Speaker 1: a place in this country that this horrific vision, which 57 00:04:33,355 --> 00:04:38,315 Speaker 1: in its essence is mass murder of the homeless. The 58 00:04:38,355 --> 00:04:41,235 Speaker 1: most widely accepted high end estimate of homelessness in this 59 00:04:41,315 --> 00:04:44,355 Speaker 1: country is seven hundred and seventy one thousand people a night. 60 00:04:45,635 --> 00:04:48,315 Speaker 1: And no kill Me did not say, let's submit seven 61 00:04:48,435 --> 00:04:52,275 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one thousand people to quote involuntary lethal injection. 62 00:04:53,435 --> 00:04:56,875 Speaker 1: It didn't have to. If he meant seven hundred and 63 00:04:56,955 --> 00:04:59,915 Speaker 1: seventy one people, is that somehow less horrific? Have you 64 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:04,235 Speaker 1: meant seventy seven? What is your threshold to be enraged 65 00:05:04,755 --> 00:05:08,555 Speaker 1: at the prospect of the government simply pulling some homeless 66 00:05:08,595 --> 00:05:15,195 Speaker 1: people off the street and lethally injecting them? Seven is one? 67 00:05:15,835 --> 00:05:17,835 Speaker 1: How about none? But a guy who's been a face 68 00:05:17,875 --> 00:05:20,955 Speaker 1: of Fox News for twenty seven years simply proposing it. 69 00:05:23,515 --> 00:05:25,315 Speaker 1: We are in such a place in this country that, 70 00:05:25,395 --> 00:05:28,675 Speaker 1: hours after kill Me, Lethally injected his idea into the 71 00:05:28,675 --> 00:05:33,995 Speaker 1: psyche of this damaged, disintegrating nation. Charlie Kirk was killed itself. 72 00:05:34,275 --> 00:05:40,875 Speaker 1: Something horrific, something indefensible. And for four days that's almost 73 00:05:40,915 --> 00:05:45,755 Speaker 1: all there has been. Trump's criminal negligence of Putin's attack 74 00:05:46,035 --> 00:05:50,595 Speaker 1: on Poland. No, I mean the one last week, not 75 00:05:50,675 --> 00:05:53,675 Speaker 1: the new one Saturday, nor the one on Romania Saturday 76 00:05:54,915 --> 00:05:57,275 Speaker 1: that could not break through the ceaseless canonization of this 77 00:05:57,355 --> 00:06:01,595 Speaker 1: rather typical maga threatener, nor the ceaseless attempts, even as 78 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:04,515 Speaker 1: the facts piled up against it of Trump's attempt and 79 00:06:04,675 --> 00:06:07,915 Speaker 1: the rights attempt to turn it into what fascist influencer 80 00:06:08,075 --> 00:06:14,275 Speaker 1: literally called, quote our Reichstag fire, but don't you dare 81 00:06:14,315 --> 00:06:17,555 Speaker 1: call us Nazis. And by the way, he did not 82 00:06:17,715 --> 00:06:23,755 Speaker 1: mean Reichstang fire in a negative or an informed way. 83 00:06:24,515 --> 00:06:27,395 Speaker 1: In the middle of this, a humanoid fraud news channel 84 00:06:27,435 --> 00:06:30,755 Speaker 1: host with a twenty seven year record of saying remarkably 85 00:06:30,835 --> 00:06:34,715 Speaker 1: stupid and indefensible and sub human things, even for Fox, 86 00:06:35,915 --> 00:06:38,995 Speaker 1: who also has one of the few remaining national television platforms, 87 00:06:39,195 --> 00:06:41,555 Speaker 1: said that when all else failed, the solution to the 88 00:06:41,555 --> 00:06:44,755 Speaker 1: homeless issue in this country, the uh, if I may 89 00:06:44,795 --> 00:06:49,755 Speaker 1: call it, this final solution is quote involuntary lethal injection 90 00:06:49,955 --> 00:06:55,195 Speaker 1: or something just kill them. And initially, only Media Matters 91 00:06:55,235 --> 00:06:59,075 Speaker 1: for America it self targeted for a metaphorical lethal injection 92 00:06:59,395 --> 00:07:04,355 Speaker 1: by the Trump dictatorship. Only Media Matters for America gave 93 00:07:04,435 --> 00:07:08,355 Speaker 1: this story any real attention in real time. Last Wednesday, 94 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:13,635 Speaker 1: I'll confess I saw the video maybe Thursday, maybe early Friday. 95 00:07:13,915 --> 00:07:17,595 Speaker 1: I literally thought it was a fabrication, a cut and 96 00:07:17,755 --> 00:07:22,035 Speaker 1: paste job. Even Ai, this could not be real, Not 97 00:07:22,315 --> 00:07:28,235 Speaker 1: even kill Mead would say that. I searched for the SoundBite, 98 00:07:28,235 --> 00:07:30,275 Speaker 1: I found it, I heard it. I still didn't grasp 99 00:07:30,315 --> 00:07:33,755 Speaker 1: the implications of it. I fell victim to all the 100 00:07:33,755 --> 00:07:36,715 Speaker 1: potholes of the Internet, where you can be distracted from 101 00:07:36,755 --> 00:07:40,715 Speaker 1: the real horrors of America twenty twenty five, like Brian Killmead, 102 00:07:41,275 --> 00:07:44,235 Speaker 1: because of the sheer volume of attention to the fake 103 00:07:44,355 --> 00:07:49,275 Speaker 1: horrors of America twenty twenty five, and so until one 104 00:07:49,315 --> 00:07:53,435 Speaker 1: of the genuine, invaluable components of social media, Aaron Rupar, 105 00:07:53,835 --> 00:07:57,955 Speaker 1: clipped the kill Mead involuntary lethal injection segment and put 106 00:07:57,955 --> 00:08:01,755 Speaker 1: it out Saturday morning on social media. This grotesque idea 107 00:08:02,235 --> 00:08:05,675 Speaker 1: straight from the pages of every country, from Pauls Cambodia 108 00:08:05,835 --> 00:08:09,315 Speaker 1: to Hitler's Germany, every country that has ever turned to 109 00:08:09,395 --> 00:08:13,635 Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing or purging, or concentration camps or the mass 110 00:08:13,715 --> 00:08:17,995 Speaker 1: murder of the other. It slipped out of sight, like 111 00:08:18,035 --> 00:08:20,915 Speaker 1: Trump ignoring Putin sending drones into Polish airspace for the 112 00:08:20,915 --> 00:08:23,635 Speaker 1: second time in Romania for the first, like Trump establishing 113 00:08:23,635 --> 00:08:27,515 Speaker 1: a series of impossible tasks for other countries to effect 114 00:08:27,595 --> 00:08:30,915 Speaker 1: before he will act against Putin. Like Trump being asked 115 00:08:30,915 --> 00:08:36,115 Speaker 1: about mourning his friend Charlie Kirk and basically saying yeah, 116 00:08:36,155 --> 00:08:39,915 Speaker 1: and then changing the topic immediately to the building of 117 00:08:39,955 --> 00:08:47,035 Speaker 1: his white house gold plated outhouse. I will cover each 118 00:08:47,075 --> 00:08:49,715 Speaker 1: of these things in depth. It will be a long podcast, 119 00:08:49,795 --> 00:08:54,275 Speaker 1: and it is all new because Trump's criminal negligence truly 120 00:08:54,395 --> 00:08:56,755 Speaker 1: is beginning to take on the shape of Europe and America, 121 00:08:56,795 --> 00:09:00,995 Speaker 1: ignoring Hitler and many of its leaders here working on 122 00:09:01,075 --> 00:09:04,275 Speaker 1: behalf of Hitler in the thirties. Look it at you 123 00:09:04,355 --> 00:09:09,115 Speaker 1: in Hell, Charles Lindberg. The Kirk story not only reveals 124 00:09:09,155 --> 00:09:12,995 Speaker 1: the reality that he infuriated huge swaths of a far 125 00:09:13,155 --> 00:09:17,435 Speaker 1: right even crazier than he was, and their leaders influenced 126 00:09:17,435 --> 00:09:22,315 Speaker 1: his murderer, the reverence for Kirk by even some milk 127 00:09:22,355 --> 00:09:25,115 Speaker 1: toast liberals and the panic by every last damned MAGA 128 00:09:25,195 --> 00:09:27,715 Speaker 1: indicates that they have for the first time realized, with 129 00:09:27,795 --> 00:09:30,675 Speaker 1: mounting fear and even terror, that the old Monty Python 130 00:09:30,795 --> 00:09:34,835 Speaker 1: joke with Eric idel as the army private asking his 131 00:09:34,875 --> 00:09:37,795 Speaker 1: commander to let him leave the army contains great truth 132 00:09:38,475 --> 00:09:41,795 Speaker 1: in it. Idyl says, quote, it's dangerous. There are people 133 00:09:41,795 --> 00:09:45,275 Speaker 1: with guns out there, real guns, sir, not toy guns, 134 00:09:45,315 --> 00:09:47,515 Speaker 1: proper guns, sir. And so I'd like to leave the 135 00:09:47,635 --> 00:09:53,155 Speaker 1: army now before I get killed. There's lots to talk 136 00:09:53,155 --> 00:09:55,475 Speaker 1: about on all of these subjects, but first let me 137 00:09:55,515 --> 00:10:01,355 Speaker 1: finish off this Brian Kilmead story. The Fox defense, although 138 00:10:01,395 --> 00:10:03,475 Speaker 1: really their primary defense had been to hope it would 139 00:10:03,555 --> 00:10:05,275 Speaker 1: just go away, and hell it did go away for 140 00:10:05,315 --> 00:10:09,795 Speaker 1: four days. Was it kill me just slipped and Lawrence 141 00:10:09,875 --> 00:10:12,515 Speaker 1: Jones just slipped, And they were only talking about one 142 00:10:12,715 --> 00:10:16,155 Speaker 1: homeless person, the murderer of the Ukrainian immigrant woman on 143 00:10:16,195 --> 00:10:20,195 Speaker 1: the light rail line in Charlotte, North Carolina, the first time, incidentally, 144 00:10:20,275 --> 00:10:23,115 Speaker 1: that Fox and Maga have actually been worried about are 145 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:29,675 Speaker 1: concerned about the death of any Ukrainian. It was just 146 00:10:29,715 --> 00:10:32,915 Speaker 1: a slip. He didn't mean seven hundred and seventy thousand 147 00:10:33,355 --> 00:10:37,435 Speaker 1: homeless people should be euthanized. He just meant the one 148 00:10:37,635 --> 00:10:41,675 Speaker 1: in advance, which is patently untruth. The quote, again is 149 00:10:41,755 --> 00:10:45,755 Speaker 1: Jones talking about wasting billions on trying to treat homelessness. 150 00:10:45,955 --> 00:10:48,235 Speaker 1: So lock them up or put them in institutions, and 151 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:52,435 Speaker 1: kill Mead adding or involuntary lethal injection, and Jones saying yeah, 152 00:10:52,595 --> 00:10:55,395 Speaker 1: and kill me then adding quote or something, just kill them. 153 00:10:55,915 --> 00:10:58,715 Speaker 1: There's no reference to the one victim in those quotes. 154 00:10:58,995 --> 00:11:02,595 Speaker 1: They'd stopped talking about her a minute earlier. Jones says 155 00:11:02,635 --> 00:11:08,315 Speaker 1: the word them three times, and kill Mead's final words 156 00:11:08,675 --> 00:11:12,355 Speaker 1: are not about her. His final words are just kill them. 157 00:11:14,715 --> 00:11:18,035 Speaker 1: Kill needs four days late apology quote, I'm obviously aware 158 00:11:18,075 --> 00:11:20,755 Speaker 1: that not all mentally ill homeless people act as the 159 00:11:20,795 --> 00:11:24,275 Speaker 1: perpetrator did in North Carolina, and that so many mentally 160 00:11:24,355 --> 00:11:28,555 Speaker 1: ill homeless people deserve our empathy and compassion. Unquote. Well, 161 00:11:28,555 --> 00:11:31,835 Speaker 1: there's a clear inference in that for which kill meat 162 00:11:31,835 --> 00:11:35,035 Speaker 1: should also be fired, fire him, hire him again, and 163 00:11:35,115 --> 00:11:39,595 Speaker 1: fire him another time. A clear inference in that quote 164 00:11:39,635 --> 00:11:43,395 Speaker 1: that many homeless people do not deserve our empathy or 165 00:11:43,435 --> 00:11:47,795 Speaker 1: our compassion they deserve per Brian kill Mead per Fox News, 166 00:11:47,795 --> 00:11:55,515 Speaker 1: per the Murdoch psychopathic viewpoint, lethal injection. But even if 167 00:11:55,595 --> 00:11:59,635 Speaker 1: kill Mead was not issuing a fraud apology, a deeply 168 00:11:59,795 --> 00:12:04,395 Speaker 1: wallet felt apology because he got caught. Let me circle 169 00:12:04,435 --> 00:12:09,075 Speaker 1: back to my earlier point at what number does giving 170 00:12:09,075 --> 00:12:13,915 Speaker 1: the homeless involuntary lethal injections constitute extra judicial murder of 171 00:12:13,955 --> 00:12:20,315 Speaker 1: Americans buy America, mass murder by the government. What number 172 00:12:20,355 --> 00:12:23,835 Speaker 1: all seven hundred and seventy one thousand homeless people, one 173 00:12:23,875 --> 00:12:28,795 Speaker 1: thousand people, two people, one person? If somebody, and let 174 00:12:28,795 --> 00:12:30,875 Speaker 1: me state here, I am opposed to this with all 175 00:12:30,915 --> 00:12:34,115 Speaker 1: of my heart. And I know Brian kill Mead. I'm 176 00:12:34,115 --> 00:12:36,555 Speaker 1: opposed to this about him or anybody else. But if 177 00:12:36,595 --> 00:12:39,235 Speaker 1: somebody from the Trump dictatorship walked up to Brian kill 178 00:12:39,315 --> 00:12:42,635 Speaker 1: Mead and gave him a quote involuntary lethal injection, would 179 00:12:42,715 --> 00:12:46,395 Speaker 1: that be murder? Your goddamn right, it would be murder. 180 00:12:46,955 --> 00:12:51,315 Speaker 1: Would you object to it as I do? Or if 181 00:12:51,355 --> 00:12:54,275 Speaker 1: Brian kill me didn't realize that the victim here was 182 00:12:54,315 --> 00:12:56,995 Speaker 1: Brian kill Mead, would he object I don't think he would. 183 00:12:57,795 --> 00:13:02,115 Speaker 1: He just proposed this as a solution to an American problem. 184 00:13:04,755 --> 00:13:07,195 Speaker 1: So how many more victims would be required before it 185 00:13:07,355 --> 00:13:10,955 Speaker 1: was mass murder? Brian? Because to twist an old phrase, 186 00:13:11,195 --> 00:13:13,755 Speaker 1: I think we can agree on who you are, Brian Killmead. 187 00:13:13,955 --> 00:13:17,195 Speaker 1: We are now just arguing about the price in the 188 00:13:17,235 --> 00:13:23,595 Speaker 1: total number of lethal injections you would pay for and 189 00:13:23,635 --> 00:13:25,835 Speaker 1: the apology for which even today many are saying he 190 00:13:25,915 --> 00:13:29,955 Speaker 1: deserves credit for This remarkably similar to Brian Killmead's apology 191 00:13:29,995 --> 00:13:32,675 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine after he said Americans shouldn't 192 00:13:32,675 --> 00:13:36,915 Speaker 1: marry people from other cultures like the Swedes don't, and 193 00:13:36,995 --> 00:13:41,875 Speaker 1: thus the Swedes have quote pure genes, when he had 194 00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:46,515 Speaker 1: to apologize for being pro eugenics. And it's remarkably similar 195 00:13:46,515 --> 00:13:49,395 Speaker 1: to Brian Killmead's apology in twenty ten when he said, 196 00:13:49,475 --> 00:13:53,395 Speaker 1: quote not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are 197 00:13:53,435 --> 00:13:58,675 Speaker 1: Muslim And remarkably similar to Brian killmeads apology from twenty 198 00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:02,355 Speaker 1: eighteen when Trump was separating immigrant children from their parents, 199 00:14:03,195 --> 00:14:07,635 Speaker 1: when kill Meads said, quote, aren't our kids show them compassion? 200 00:14:07,635 --> 00:14:09,235 Speaker 1: But it's not like he's doing this to the people 201 00:14:09,275 --> 00:14:16,075 Speaker 1: of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country. 202 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:20,955 Speaker 1: These quotations are not a series of aberrations. Brian Kilmeade 203 00:14:20,995 --> 00:14:24,595 Speaker 1: is scum who called for the murder by the government 204 00:14:25,435 --> 00:14:29,995 Speaker 1: by lethal injection, by involuntary lethal injection of god knows 205 00:14:30,035 --> 00:14:33,835 Speaker 1: how many homeless children and veterans and just plain old 206 00:14:33,955 --> 00:14:41,835 Speaker 1: homeless Americans and apologized four days late because he got caught, 207 00:14:43,595 --> 00:14:49,395 Speaker 1: only because he got caught, Like when he endorsed eugenics, 208 00:14:49,635 --> 00:14:52,515 Speaker 1: or said all terrorists you're Muslim, or insisted migrant children 209 00:14:52,755 --> 00:14:59,555 Speaker 1: could be separated because they're from another country. The statements 210 00:14:59,555 --> 00:15:02,715 Speaker 1: of hate are not the aberration. The apologies are the aberration. 211 00:15:05,515 --> 00:15:37,075 Speaker 1: Fire Brian Kilmead Today and in our fourth story on 212 00:15:37,115 --> 00:15:39,915 Speaker 1: the Countdown, the President of the United States continues to 213 00:15:39,915 --> 00:15:45,475 Speaker 1: help Vladimir Putin begin to subjugate Eastern Europe. I mean 214 00:15:45,555 --> 00:15:50,515 Speaker 1: seriously traitorous behavior by Trump again to Putin's benefit again, 215 00:15:51,395 --> 00:15:54,875 Speaker 1: and the poor, mindless, delusional bastard Trump can't even be 216 00:15:54,955 --> 00:16:02,355 Speaker 1: the lead story. You're slipping don At midday Saturday, Russian 217 00:16:02,435 --> 00:16:07,595 Speaker 1: drones skirted the borders with Poland and Romania for Poland 218 00:16:07,715 --> 00:16:10,075 Speaker 1: second time in a week, painting them. We used to 219 00:16:10,115 --> 00:16:12,715 Speaker 1: call it in a different context. And Trump did what 220 00:16:12,755 --> 00:16:15,595 Speaker 1: he is supposed to do in such situations, provide cover 221 00:16:15,755 --> 00:16:19,715 Speaker 1: for Putin and Russia, provide stalling tactics for Putin and Russia. 222 00:16:19,795 --> 00:16:26,595 Speaker 1: Shift the responsibility for Putin and for stopping Putin. Shift 223 00:16:26,635 --> 00:16:30,915 Speaker 1: that responsibility to the victims. Blame Zelenski, presumably, start blaming 224 00:16:30,995 --> 00:16:36,795 Speaker 1: Poland's Donald Tusk. The Russians cobbled together junk drones I 225 00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:43,475 Speaker 1: mean literally pieces of debris wood, extra room for extra fuel, 226 00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:46,955 Speaker 1: so these drones could get near Poland that's an old 227 00:16:46,995 --> 00:16:53,755 Speaker 1: North Korean trick to show they could do it to 228 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:57,955 Speaker 1: see if Trump would blink. It's blinking so much he 229 00:16:58,035 --> 00:17:02,715 Speaker 1: might as well be sending morse code. Trump's response, he'll 230 00:17:02,715 --> 00:17:05,155 Speaker 1: put sanctions on Russia. He's ready to do it. Don't 231 00:17:05,155 --> 00:17:07,075 Speaker 1: make him come up there this time. He means at 232 00:17:07,075 --> 00:17:11,475 Speaker 1: this time, the three thousandth time, he'll do it. Incidentally, 233 00:17:11,515 --> 00:17:13,835 Speaker 1: Trump has now made more promises to stop Putin than 234 00:17:13,835 --> 00:17:16,635 Speaker 1: Brian kill mea. It has had to make apologies. A 235 00:17:16,755 --> 00:17:20,355 Speaker 1: letter sent by President Donald J. Trump, the J is 236 00:17:20,435 --> 00:17:27,155 Speaker 1: for jerkhead to all NATO nations and the world. I 237 00:17:27,155 --> 00:17:30,995 Speaker 1: thought you were sending it to Neptune asshole quote. I 238 00:17:31,075 --> 00:17:34,075 Speaker 1: am ready to do major sanctions on Russia when all 239 00:17:34,195 --> 00:17:37,315 Speaker 1: NATO nations have agreed and started to do the same thing, 240 00:17:37,355 --> 00:17:40,515 Speaker 1: and when all NATO nations stopped buying oil from Russia. 241 00:17:40,595 --> 00:17:43,435 Speaker 1: As you know, NATO's commitment to win has been far 242 00:17:43,555 --> 00:17:46,515 Speaker 1: less than one hundred percent, and the perch wait a minute, 243 00:17:47,035 --> 00:17:49,955 Speaker 1: NATO's commitment to win has been less than one hundred percent. 244 00:17:51,075 --> 00:17:56,395 Speaker 1: Putin's commitment to win is one hundred percent. NATO's commitment 245 00:17:56,395 --> 00:17:59,555 Speaker 1: to win is one hundred percent. Trump's commitment to win 246 00:18:00,435 --> 00:18:05,955 Speaker 1: is minus one hundred and seventy three percent. Howard the loser, 247 00:18:07,115 --> 00:18:10,755 Speaker 1: the p word here, the here kitty kitty guy is Trump. 248 00:18:11,475 --> 00:18:14,555 Speaker 1: But the GISTs of this is, as he goes on 249 00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:18,955 Speaker 1: to blame Zelenski ridiculous war drum, this is not Trump's 250 00:18:18,955 --> 00:18:22,275 Speaker 1: ward are the usual bullshit. The gist of it is 251 00:18:22,635 --> 00:18:31,435 Speaker 1: he will now impose sanctions when NATO stops buying Russian oil, 252 00:18:31,635 --> 00:18:35,395 Speaker 1: And it sounds almost plausible. It's the first non totally 253 00:18:35,475 --> 00:18:41,395 Speaker 1: insane thing superficially anyway, that he has said since I 254 00:18:41,475 --> 00:18:47,075 Speaker 1: was going to say December before the election twenty fifteen. 255 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:52,155 Speaker 1: I'm settling on nineteen forty seven, the first semi saying 256 00:18:52,235 --> 00:18:55,915 Speaker 1: thing he said since nineteen forty seven. Yeah, he's right, 257 00:18:55,955 --> 00:18:59,275 Speaker 1: What good are sanctions against Russian oil if actual NATO 258 00:18:59,395 --> 00:19:04,075 Speaker 1: member countries keep buying Russian oil? Except this plausibility is 259 00:19:04,115 --> 00:19:06,075 Speaker 1: just another pre arranged way to make sure the push 260 00:19:06,115 --> 00:19:09,275 Speaker 1: for sanctions can never succeed because two of the NATO 261 00:19:09,355 --> 00:19:14,035 Speaker 1: countries still buying Russian oil are Slovakia, a fascist state 262 00:19:14,155 --> 00:19:18,235 Speaker 1: run by a fascist and Hungary an even more fascist 263 00:19:18,275 --> 00:19:23,035 Speaker 1: state run by an even fatter fascist. They aren't opposed 264 00:19:23,035 --> 00:19:27,715 Speaker 1: to Putin, They depend on Putin. Trump might as well 265 00:19:27,715 --> 00:19:30,075 Speaker 1: have said he will impose one hundred percent sanctions on 266 00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:35,355 Speaker 1: Russia and quadruple military aid to Ukraine and block Russian 267 00:19:35,515 --> 00:19:40,235 Speaker 1: ports once everyone in America signs a notarized statement saying 268 00:19:40,315 --> 00:19:46,155 Speaker 1: that he won the twenty twenty election. History may judge 269 00:19:46,195 --> 00:19:48,955 Speaker 1: that Trump was not on the Russian payroll, or that 270 00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:52,435 Speaker 1: Trump was not being blackmailed by Russia, or that Trump 271 00:19:52,475 --> 00:19:54,755 Speaker 1: was not being run by Russia. It may judge that 272 00:19:54,795 --> 00:19:57,635 Speaker 1: something far worse was going on, that he was doing 273 00:19:57,675 --> 00:20:08,155 Speaker 1: this by choice, that Trump's work for Russia was voluntary. 274 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:16,115 Speaker 1: The latest stall is a stall, another one while Putin 275 00:20:16,195 --> 00:20:20,355 Speaker 1: keeps testing the West. One week it's Poland, the next 276 00:20:20,355 --> 00:20:25,955 Speaker 1: week it's Poland and Romania, and soon, rather than late, 277 00:20:26,115 --> 00:20:32,515 Speaker 1: it'll be Poland and Romania and Germany. As Winston Churchill 278 00:20:32,555 --> 00:20:35,795 Speaker 1: said when England bent over for Hitler, our people quote 279 00:20:35,955 --> 00:20:38,515 Speaker 1: should know that we have sustained a defeat without a war, 280 00:20:38,915 --> 00:20:42,075 Speaker 1: the consequences of which will travel far with us along 281 00:20:42,155 --> 00:20:44,835 Speaker 1: our road. They should know that we have passed an 282 00:20:44,875 --> 00:20:48,755 Speaker 1: awful milestone in our history, when the whole equilibrium of 283 00:20:48,795 --> 00:20:52,955 Speaker 1: Europe has been deranged, and that the terrible words have 284 00:20:53,075 --> 00:20:58,435 Speaker 1: for the time been pronounced against the Western democracies. Thou 285 00:20:58,715 --> 00:21:05,155 Speaker 1: Art weighed in the balance and found wanting, and do 286 00:21:05,275 --> 00:21:11,595 Speaker 1: not suppose Churchill concluded that this is the end. This 287 00:21:11,755 --> 00:21:24,555 Speaker 1: is only the beginning of the reckoning. And now to 288 00:21:24,595 --> 00:21:28,435 Speaker 1: Saint Charlie of Kirk, I am beginning to suspect that 289 00:21:28,515 --> 00:21:32,395 Speaker 1: the Governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, also trying to be 290 00:21:32,635 --> 00:21:36,875 Speaker 1: saint bipartisan Spencer of Cox, is actually a trojan horse. 291 00:21:38,315 --> 00:21:42,475 Speaker 1: The latest is he's insisting Kirk's shooter was indoctrinated and 292 00:21:42,555 --> 00:21:47,435 Speaker 1: has expressed leftist ideology. To its credit, CNN had him 293 00:21:47,435 --> 00:21:51,355 Speaker 1: on and actually pressed him question did investigators just use 294 00:21:51,355 --> 00:21:55,595 Speaker 1: the term leftist ideology or did they give some specifics. 295 00:21:56,435 --> 00:22:00,075 Speaker 1: Governor Cox said, quote, there are conversations that were discussed 296 00:22:00,115 --> 00:22:03,475 Speaker 1: specifically about Charlie Kirk. I don't have a dog in 297 00:22:03,515 --> 00:22:06,915 Speaker 1: this fight. I'm sure he fought back tears at this point. 298 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:10,075 Speaker 1: If this was MAGA and a radicalized MAGA person, I 299 00:22:10,115 --> 00:22:14,635 Speaker 1: would be sharing that as well. I believe that when 300 00:22:15,395 --> 00:22:19,035 Speaker 1: when you do it, gov, family discussions parents. This is 301 00:22:19,075 --> 00:22:23,275 Speaker 1: what they're saying, question, do you have specifics on what 302 00:22:23,315 --> 00:22:27,315 Speaker 1: he was saying about Charlie Kirk to his family? Governor Cox, 303 00:22:28,035 --> 00:22:36,755 Speaker 1: just not a fan, That's all I can say, unquote. 304 00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:41,595 Speaker 1: Waiting on the deats. Gov. Molly White of Citation Needed 305 00:22:41,675 --> 00:22:45,195 Speaker 1: News summed up the undercurrent of those deats that have 306 00:22:45,395 --> 00:22:54,235 Speaker 1: in turn each collapsed under well reality. Quoting her arrow right. 307 00:22:54,315 --> 00:22:58,155 Speaker 1: The shooter is trans, arrow right, Okay, the bullets were trans, 308 00:22:59,075 --> 00:23:04,275 Speaker 1: arrow right, Okay. The roommate is trans, Cash Patel sweating profusely. 309 00:23:04,795 --> 00:23:10,315 Speaker 1: Is anyone nearby trans? Now it's the supposed girlfriend who 310 00:23:10,355 --> 00:23:14,435 Speaker 1: was supposed trans. And yes, it is possible that somebody 311 00:23:14,555 --> 00:23:17,915 Speaker 1: saw it recently and they're just repurposing the plot from 312 00:23:17,995 --> 00:23:25,875 Speaker 1: the Pacino film Dog Day Afternoon. The only indoctrination we 313 00:23:25,955 --> 00:23:28,755 Speaker 1: have any confirmation of here is the universal agreement that 314 00:23:28,795 --> 00:23:31,235 Speaker 1: he was raised by an all right wing family and 315 00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,995 Speaker 1: had giant guns in his house when he was a toddler. 316 00:23:34,715 --> 00:23:39,235 Speaker 1: All MAGA, all the time, all Trump voters. Then, somewhere 317 00:23:39,235 --> 00:23:43,315 Speaker 1: along the line he criticized Charlie Kirk, and criticizing Charlie 318 00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:49,515 Speaker 1: Kirk must be leftist ideology and indoctrination. Right, Huh When 319 00:23:49,555 --> 00:23:52,275 Speaker 1: did this happen? When was he indoctrinated by the left? 320 00:23:52,755 --> 00:23:55,595 Speaker 1: When did he start criticizing Charlie Kirk, which is against 321 00:23:55,595 --> 00:23:59,075 Speaker 1: the law, isn't it? When did he start hitting Kirk? 322 00:23:59,555 --> 00:24:04,675 Speaker 1: Because this next thing was from last month. This appeared 323 00:24:04,875 --> 00:24:07,995 Speaker 1: to have been August twenty sixth. I think that's the date. 324 00:24:08,035 --> 00:24:11,595 Speaker 1: I couldn't verify that it's around August twenty sixth. That 325 00:24:11,635 --> 00:24:15,755 Speaker 1: would be carry the one twenty days ago. And the 326 00:24:15,795 --> 00:24:22,715 Speaker 1: speaker criticizing Curly Kirk is Nick Fuente's. 327 00:24:22,155 --> 00:24:25,955 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk cannot call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry, you 328 00:24:26,035 --> 00:24:29,235 Speaker 2: forfeited that I do not want to hear. And you 329 00:24:29,275 --> 00:24:34,475 Speaker 2: cannot allow Charlie Kirk to go to one more public event, 330 00:24:35,435 --> 00:24:39,395 Speaker 2: one more question and answer, one more ask me anything 331 00:24:40,075 --> 00:24:44,595 Speaker 2: without being protested, without being shouted down, without being interrogated 332 00:24:44,635 --> 00:24:50,715 Speaker 2: about this. This guy goes around from campus to campus 333 00:24:50,715 --> 00:24:55,555 Speaker 2: in the most artificial and phony and fake way, talking about, 334 00:24:55,915 --> 00:24:58,595 Speaker 2: Oh God, God made me very blessed that I control 335 00:24:58,675 --> 00:25:01,755 Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars. Oh I'm so blessed, I'm so rich, 336 00:25:01,795 --> 00:25:04,155 Speaker 2: and I'm so blessed to know God's been so good 337 00:25:04,155 --> 00:25:04,395 Speaker 2: to me. 338 00:25:05,155 --> 00:25:10,115 Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes August twenty sixth, saying that Charlie Kirk is 339 00:25:10,155 --> 00:25:14,075 Speaker 1: not actually a Christian, saying something about Charlie Kirk worse 340 00:25:14,115 --> 00:25:18,595 Speaker 1: than any Democrat or liberal commentator ever said about Charlie Kirk, 341 00:25:19,275 --> 00:25:22,795 Speaker 1: though to be fair, maybe not worse than what was 342 00:25:22,835 --> 00:25:29,075 Speaker 1: written sixty days ago by Laura Loomer quote, I don't 343 00:25:29,115 --> 00:25:31,395 Speaker 1: ever want to hear Charlie Kirk claim he is pro 344 00:25:31,435 --> 00:25:34,675 Speaker 1: Trump ever again after this weekend, I'd say he's revealed 345 00:25:34,755 --> 00:25:37,715 Speaker 1: himself as political opportunitist. And I have had a front 346 00:25:37,795 --> 00:25:40,555 Speaker 1: row seat to witness the mental gymnastics of these last 347 00:25:40,595 --> 00:25:44,555 Speaker 1: ten years. Lately, Charlie has decided to behave like a Charlatan, 348 00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:48,155 Speaker 1: claiming to be pro Trump one day while he stabs 349 00:25:48,235 --> 00:25:53,195 Speaker 1: Trump in the back the next as an aside, isn't 350 00:25:53,235 --> 00:25:58,275 Speaker 1: that violent? Isn't that if he stabbed Trump in the back, 351 00:25:58,315 --> 00:26:02,195 Speaker 1: wouldn't you wouldn't you have to call the Free Speech 352 00:26:02,195 --> 00:26:07,195 Speaker 1: Hall Monitor on this. TPUSA was only able to thrive 353 00:26:07,275 --> 00:26:12,435 Speaker 1: thanks to the generosity of President Trump on a donation 354 00:26:12,555 --> 00:26:15,235 Speaker 1: from the Chubb Group. On the one year anniversary of 355 00:26:15,235 --> 00:26:18,915 Speaker 1: the assassination attempt on Trump's life, Charlie hosted Dave Smith 356 00:26:19,595 --> 00:26:21,475 Speaker 1: Dave Smith was able to speak to a bunch of 357 00:26:21,555 --> 00:26:24,755 Speaker 1: conservative youth at an organization that claims to be pro Trump. 358 00:26:25,155 --> 00:26:27,835 Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, Dave Smith called for President Trump to 359 00:26:27,835 --> 00:26:30,835 Speaker 1: be impeached and removed from office over his decision to 360 00:26:30,875 --> 00:26:35,155 Speaker 1: blow up Iran's nuclear facilities. Charlie played both sides of 361 00:26:35,155 --> 00:26:37,235 Speaker 1: the Iran issue on his show, as we all saw, 362 00:26:37,275 --> 00:26:39,635 Speaker 1: because he wants to play to both sides of the isle. 363 00:26:39,915 --> 00:26:41,755 Speaker 1: The honorable thing to do is have a position and 364 00:26:41,795 --> 00:26:47,795 Speaker 1: actually defend it to the death, said Laura Loomer, instead 365 00:26:47,795 --> 00:26:50,635 Speaker 1: of flip flopping. Smith said all of MAGA quotes should 366 00:26:50,675 --> 00:26:56,715 Speaker 1: turn on Trump and abandon him. Well, that's it. Indict 367 00:26:56,795 --> 00:27:00,715 Speaker 1: all of MAGA now. He said this three weeks ago 368 00:27:00,795 --> 00:27:04,035 Speaker 1: see the clip below. TPUSA is definitely not pro Trump. 369 00:27:04,115 --> 00:27:06,275 Speaker 1: If they were, they certainly aren't anymore. Out of all 370 00:27:06,315 --> 00:27:09,515 Speaker 1: the incredible pro Trump voices out there who support the president, 371 00:27:09,595 --> 00:27:12,555 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk decided to host Dave Smith. It really is 372 00:27:12,635 --> 00:27:15,515 Speaker 1: shameful and I am honestly just disgusted by the NonStop 373 00:27:15,515 --> 00:27:21,915 Speaker 1: flip flopping on the right. So it was the left 374 00:27:21,915 --> 00:27:28,315 Speaker 1: to turn this Robinson guy against Charlie Kirk, not Laura 375 00:27:28,435 --> 00:27:38,555 Speaker 1: Loomer or Nick Fuentes, leftist ideology or right wing doc 376 00:27:38,635 --> 00:27:46,235 Speaker 1: trinyl hyphen ethnic cleansing, and then right wing guilt. But 377 00:27:46,435 --> 00:27:48,555 Speaker 1: the snowball had already started down the hill, and they 378 00:27:48,555 --> 00:27:51,995 Speaker 1: are all helping it. The fascists have decided to use 379 00:27:52,035 --> 00:27:54,315 Speaker 1: this as an opening to close down criticism. If you 380 00:27:54,435 --> 00:27:57,795 Speaker 1: ever called out one of the fascists for threatening violence, 381 00:27:58,115 --> 00:28:03,995 Speaker 1: if you noted Trump's stochastic terrorism, if you accurately compared 382 00:28:04,075 --> 00:28:08,395 Speaker 1: him to Hitler and the means Hitler used to gain 383 00:28:08,515 --> 00:28:11,755 Speaker 1: power and the things Hitler did once he gained power, 384 00:28:13,115 --> 00:28:20,955 Speaker 1: You're finished. A conservative named Hannania Hannanya Richard Hannania noted 385 00:28:21,035 --> 00:28:25,235 Speaker 1: only two prominent politicians have ever called Trump Hitler. J. D. 386 00:28:25,435 --> 00:28:29,555 Speaker 1: Vance and Robert F. Kennedy Junior. They're going over the 387 00:28:29,595 --> 00:28:35,275 Speaker 1: side of the boat too. No, why not? Stephen Miller's 388 00:28:35,275 --> 00:28:38,875 Speaker 1: wife got off of her broom for a moment to 389 00:28:39,035 --> 00:28:42,315 Speaker 1: warn that you called us Hitler, and others repeated you 390 00:28:42,395 --> 00:28:46,355 Speaker 1: called us Nazis, and therefore the left is responsible for 391 00:28:46,435 --> 00:28:49,515 Speaker 1: Kirk's death, which will be news to Michael Savage, who 392 00:28:49,555 --> 00:28:53,315 Speaker 1: compared Obama to Hitler, and will be news to the 393 00:28:53,395 --> 00:28:57,435 Speaker 1: Roman Catholic Bishop of Peoria, Illinois, who compared Obama to Hitler, 394 00:28:57,715 --> 00:29:02,595 Speaker 1: and Lance wall Noow, the mystic who compared all liberals 395 00:29:02,635 --> 00:29:06,435 Speaker 1: to Hitler, and Marjorie Taylor Green who compared Joe Biden 396 00:29:06,475 --> 00:29:11,755 Speaker 1: to Hitler, and Glenn Beck, who compared Al Gore to Hitler, 397 00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:15,755 Speaker 1: or to Rush Limbaugh, who, from the early nineteen nineties 398 00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:25,035 Speaker 1: until the minute he finally died, called everybody feminazis. Elon 399 00:29:25,235 --> 00:29:28,795 Speaker 1: Musk who wants promised to pay all the legal fees 400 00:29:28,875 --> 00:29:31,955 Speaker 1: for anybody who lost their jobs due to having posted 401 00:29:32,075 --> 00:29:35,755 Speaker 1: or liked something on Twitter. X has now retweeted one 402 00:29:35,755 --> 00:29:39,595 Speaker 1: of the hit lists Conservatives are now accumulating of those 403 00:29:39,635 --> 00:29:42,555 Speaker 1: they hoped to get fired because they would not praise 404 00:29:42,675 --> 00:29:45,115 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk after his death, or they had had the 405 00:29:45,155 --> 00:29:48,195 Speaker 1: nerve to say that in America without Kirk's venom was 406 00:29:48,195 --> 00:29:53,075 Speaker 1: a better place. People are losing jobs because they are 407 00:29:53,075 --> 00:29:57,755 Speaker 1: not hiling. Then there is the disgraced ex cop now 408 00:29:57,795 --> 00:30:01,995 Speaker 1: Louisiana Congressman Clay Higgins, the clown who gives plausibility to 409 00:30:02,035 --> 00:30:04,875 Speaker 1: the cliche of the inbred Southerner, to say nothing of 410 00:30:04,915 --> 00:30:07,275 Speaker 1: the guy who explained away January sixth with what he 411 00:30:07,395 --> 00:30:12,595 Speaker 1: called goat buff says, which turned out in English to 412 00:30:12,755 --> 00:30:16,155 Speaker 1: be ghost buses, although we never found out from Clay 413 00:30:16,195 --> 00:30:23,075 Speaker 1: what they were either Higgins after Kirk's death, I'm gonna 414 00:30:23,195 --> 00:30:26,155 Speaker 1: use congression thought. I'm sorry, you'll never understand it. If 415 00:30:26,195 --> 00:30:28,915 Speaker 1: I read it, he would. I'm going to use congressional 416 00:30:28,955 --> 00:30:31,875 Speaker 1: authority and every influence with big tech platforms to mandate 417 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:35,515 Speaker 1: immediate ban for life of every post or commenter that 418 00:30:35,595 --> 00:30:38,875 Speaker 1: belittled the assassination of Charlie Kirk. If they ran their 419 00:30:38,915 --> 00:30:41,955 Speaker 1: mouth with their smart ass hatred celebrating the heinous murder 420 00:30:42,075 --> 00:30:46,875 Speaker 1: of that beautiful young man who dedicated his whole life 421 00:30:47,155 --> 00:30:51,275 Speaker 1: to delivering respectful conservative truth into the hearts of liberal 422 00:30:51,435 --> 00:30:54,835 Speaker 1: enclave universities armed only with a Bible and a microphone 423 00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:59,155 Speaker 1: and a constitution. Those profiles must come down. So I'm 424 00:30:59,195 --> 00:31:03,275 Speaker 1: going to lean forward in this fight, demanding the big 425 00:31:03,315 --> 00:31:06,715 Speaker 1: tech have zero tolerance for violent political hate content, the 426 00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:09,715 Speaker 1: user to be banned from all platforms in the real 427 00:31:09,915 --> 00:31:13,675 Speaker 1: world that we dream of. At that point, Clay higgins 428 00:31:15,675 --> 00:31:19,435 Speaker 1: account would have disappeared. I'm also going after their business 429 00:31:19,435 --> 00:31:23,035 Speaker 1: licenses and permitting their businesses will be blacklisted aggressively. They 430 00:31:23,075 --> 00:31:25,955 Speaker 1: should be kicked from every school, and their driver's licenses 431 00:31:25,995 --> 00:31:29,395 Speaker 1: should be revoked. I'm basically going to cancel with extreme prejudice. 432 00:31:31,075 --> 00:31:33,835 Speaker 1: Guy had a gun once he thinks he thinks he's Eastwood. 433 00:31:34,275 --> 00:31:38,715 Speaker 1: I'm going to cancel with extreme prejudice and Bronson. These evil, 434 00:31:38,795 --> 00:31:43,035 Speaker 1: sick animals who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination, I'm starting that today. 435 00:31:43,715 --> 00:31:48,515 Speaker 1: That is all. That's the same Clay Higgins, a sitting 436 00:31:48,515 --> 00:31:52,195 Speaker 1: congressman who responded to the terrorist attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband, 437 00:31:52,195 --> 00:31:54,395 Speaker 1: which was supposed to be an attack on her that 438 00:31:54,515 --> 00:31:58,355 Speaker 1: involved torture and then murder. Clay Higgins responded to that 439 00:31:58,395 --> 00:32:03,155 Speaker 1: by insisting the attack involved male prostitution. If Clay Higgins 440 00:32:03,235 --> 00:32:10,515 Speaker 1: is inbred inbread with oysters, sorry oysters. As Andrew Lawrence 441 00:32:10,515 --> 00:32:14,235 Speaker 1: of Media Matters succincly concluded, Charlie Kirk quote was a 442 00:32:14,355 --> 00:32:17,315 Speaker 1: champion of free speech, and if you disagree, you are 443 00:32:17,475 --> 00:32:26,195 Speaker 1: under arrest now unexpectedly. There is something useful in all 444 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:32,835 Speaker 1: of this bullshit, in the Clay Higgins bullshit in that quote, 445 00:32:32,995 --> 00:32:38,795 Speaker 1: that beautiful young man armed only with a bible. I 446 00:32:38,835 --> 00:32:42,395 Speaker 1: don't get startled a lot. There was a startling post 447 00:32:42,475 --> 00:32:45,555 Speaker 1: on Facebook, which may hint at why the right is 448 00:32:45,675 --> 00:32:50,715 Speaker 1: so enraged, so it seems as genuine as they can get. 449 00:32:50,995 --> 00:32:58,555 Speaker 1: Genuinely enraged. Huge swaths of the right, as implied in 450 00:32:58,595 --> 00:33:05,155 Speaker 1: this Facebook post, saw only the Bible parts, the non 451 00:33:05,195 --> 00:33:09,075 Speaker 1: stop Charlie Kirk video machine, not the let's force kids 452 00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:14,075 Speaker 1: to watch public executions, let's kill Trump's adversaries parts. Literally 453 00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:18,595 Speaker 1: they had. They have no idea that Charlie Kirk marketed 454 00:33:18,835 --> 00:33:22,955 Speaker 1: to two different audiences. The reason they keep invoking Martin, 455 00:33:23,075 --> 00:33:28,475 Speaker 1: Luther King and Jesus with Charlie Kirk is because they 456 00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:32,915 Speaker 1: did not see the entire Charlie Kirk. They literally literally 457 00:33:33,275 --> 00:33:38,955 Speaker 1: never saw it. I'll explain that plus a little secret 458 00:33:38,955 --> 00:33:41,595 Speaker 1: on the right. The right wing influencers, like all terrorists, 459 00:33:41,675 --> 00:33:45,875 Speaker 1: had thought they were again literally untouchable, that God would 460 00:33:45,915 --> 00:33:48,995 Speaker 1: never let anything bad happen to Trump, not after last year. 461 00:33:49,355 --> 00:33:52,715 Speaker 1: We're cool now, and he wouldn't let anything bad happen 462 00:33:52,755 --> 00:33:57,635 Speaker 1: to Charlie Kirk, or or wait, wouldn't let anything bad 463 00:33:57,675 --> 00:34:05,555 Speaker 1: happen to themselves. Second segment today on Charlie Kirk and 464 00:34:05,635 --> 00:34:08,675 Speaker 1: the parallel universe in which he was just a sweet 465 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:12,355 Speaker 1: Bible thumper. Next on this all new edition of Countdown. 466 00:34:19,435 --> 00:34:22,075 Speaker 1: Now to the meta stuff, the implications of the death 467 00:34:22,075 --> 00:34:24,595 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk that may linger even as his story 468 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:26,795 Speaker 1: gets pushed further and further off the page, And no 469 00:34:26,835 --> 00:34:29,555 Speaker 1: matter what your impression may be right now, it will 470 00:34:30,995 --> 00:34:40,635 Speaker 1: only epstein lingers. You doubt this. Anybody remember Andrew Breitbart? Quick? 471 00:34:40,675 --> 00:34:45,835 Speaker 1: What did he look like? I mean, his news outlet 472 00:34:45,955 --> 00:34:49,355 Speaker 1: is fading into obscurity a little more every week. Andrew 473 00:34:49,395 --> 00:34:57,555 Speaker 1: Breitbart was twenty five Charlie Kirk's. Well, the meta stuff 474 00:34:57,635 --> 00:34:59,955 Speaker 1: is there are additional factors here to the Kirk story. 475 00:34:59,995 --> 00:35:03,515 Speaker 1: I'm not sure anybody's really registered. Firstly, I'll confess it 476 00:35:03,595 --> 00:35:06,875 Speaker 1: was evident to me that was an important conservative propagandist 477 00:35:07,395 --> 00:35:11,035 Speaker 1: and a tough guy, with the constant references to God's 478 00:35:11,075 --> 00:35:14,155 Speaker 1: will and killing people and why women like Taylor Swift 479 00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:17,635 Speaker 1: needed to submit to their husbands. But I will confess 480 00:35:17,675 --> 00:35:22,795 Speaker 1: now I had no clue they revered him to this degree. 481 00:35:22,995 --> 00:35:25,235 Speaker 1: I am not certain that I would have put him 482 00:35:25,235 --> 00:35:29,355 Speaker 1: in the top one hundred fascists list. And yet as 483 00:35:29,395 --> 00:35:35,515 Speaker 1: you see, he's now Saint Charlie of Kirk. Someone explained 484 00:35:35,515 --> 00:35:38,435 Speaker 1: that there was a widespread, seldom spoken belief that Kirk 485 00:35:38,475 --> 00:35:44,595 Speaker 1: would be president of the United States. The authoritarian movement 486 00:35:44,595 --> 00:35:46,515 Speaker 1: in this country is well aware that no matter the 487 00:35:46,555 --> 00:35:50,995 Speaker 1: absolute stone cold imbecility of JD. Vance, he's no Trump. 488 00:35:51,915 --> 00:35:54,555 Speaker 1: He does a nice job swearing online, but once you 489 00:35:54,595 --> 00:35:57,955 Speaker 1: get past two or at most three short sentences from him, 490 00:35:58,195 --> 00:36:03,635 Speaker 1: it's time for a quick nap. He's like the sidekick 491 00:36:03,675 --> 00:36:10,395 Speaker 1: from the Larry sand Your Show. Kind of funny. Then 492 00:36:11,395 --> 00:36:13,155 Speaker 1: is there anybody else around here we can get to 493 00:36:13,155 --> 00:36:17,355 Speaker 1: do the job. When you think of the dictatorial depth 494 00:36:17,515 --> 00:36:21,355 Speaker 1: chart in this country, the fascists know they have nobody 495 00:36:21,395 --> 00:36:24,075 Speaker 1: to lead the movement once Trump is gone, whether God 496 00:36:24,115 --> 00:36:27,595 Speaker 1: means deceased or jailed or incapable or whatever. His adult 497 00:36:27,635 --> 00:36:30,435 Speaker 1: sons are both imbeciles. One of them has such a 498 00:36:30,475 --> 00:36:33,035 Speaker 1: ham fist that in the middle of the Maudlin post 499 00:36:33,075 --> 00:36:36,195 Speaker 1: mortems about Charlie Kirk, this guy started to pitch his 500 00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:40,075 Speaker 1: new book. I mean not even his father tried that. 501 00:36:42,835 --> 00:36:44,475 Speaker 1: And then there's one of them who might have trouble 502 00:36:44,515 --> 00:36:48,075 Speaker 1: passing a drug screen and is so gone that he 503 00:36:48,155 --> 00:36:56,395 Speaker 1: tweeted quote one of our heroes was assinated. Oh, I'll 504 00:36:56,435 --> 00:37:04,115 Speaker 1: be damned if I'm going to psychoanalyze that aassinated ass 505 00:37:06,075 --> 00:37:11,675 Speaker 1: I NATed where's your spell check? 506 00:37:11,795 --> 00:37:12,035 Speaker 3: Now? 507 00:37:15,595 --> 00:37:19,555 Speaker 1: That famous daughter checked out? The other daughter is unrecognizable. 508 00:37:19,595 --> 00:37:21,555 Speaker 1: The youngest son is the smartest of the group. He's 509 00:37:21,555 --> 00:37:25,315 Speaker 1: never said a word in public. It is quite possible 510 00:37:25,315 --> 00:37:27,995 Speaker 1: that Eric Trump's wife, the one with the lip implants, 511 00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:30,475 Speaker 1: is afterly the second most recognizable one in the family. 512 00:37:30,555 --> 00:37:33,715 Speaker 1: And she's awkward and insincere, and I mean in contrast 513 00:37:33,715 --> 00:37:37,435 Speaker 1: to Trump, she's awkward and insincere. They tried to get 514 00:37:37,475 --> 00:37:40,515 Speaker 1: another active politician to replace Trump after twenty twenty one, 515 00:37:40,555 --> 00:37:45,275 Speaker 1: and none of them withstood the first strong breeze. DeSantis, Haley, 516 00:37:45,595 --> 00:37:53,715 Speaker 1: Ramaswami Bergham, Tim Scott, No who then RFK Junior, Well, 517 00:37:55,315 --> 00:37:59,235 Speaker 1: did you hey, You're gonna elect RFK Junior. He's gonna 518 00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:04,515 Speaker 1: give the State of the Union to dress shirtless. Stephen Miller. 519 00:38:05,955 --> 00:38:08,515 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller and the twenty four to seven vibe he 520 00:38:08,595 --> 00:38:14,075 Speaker 1: gives of a flaccid penis, Stephen Bannon and the twenty 521 00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:16,635 Speaker 1: four to seven vibe he gives of a refrigerator repair 522 00:38:16,715 --> 00:38:20,355 Speaker 1: man with his butt crack exposed. So the more you 523 00:38:20,395 --> 00:38:25,275 Speaker 1: analyze it, the more you can understand this. Kirk was 524 00:38:25,315 --> 00:38:29,875 Speaker 1: not just a smoother Ben Shapiro or a better Stephen Crowder. 525 00:38:30,715 --> 00:38:35,555 Speaker 1: If he was not next, he was soon he could 526 00:38:35,555 --> 00:38:39,955 Speaker 1: have been President of the United States or whatever they'll 527 00:38:39,955 --> 00:38:44,515 Speaker 1: call the dictator in those days. And they thought this because, 528 00:38:44,555 --> 00:38:47,155 Speaker 1: as I mentioned before the break, huge parts of Kirk's 529 00:38:47,195 --> 00:38:50,275 Speaker 1: world never saw the hate, literally never saw it. The 530 00:38:50,395 --> 00:38:54,195 Speaker 1: videos never came up on their feeds. This sounds insane, 531 00:38:55,035 --> 00:38:58,155 Speaker 1: but there it is Rick Pearlstein, history and the author 532 00:38:58,155 --> 00:39:01,115 Speaker 1: of Nixon Land, which I read to my father on 533 00:39:01,195 --> 00:39:03,115 Speaker 1: his deathbed. So maybe you should read it if you 534 00:39:03,155 --> 00:39:07,035 Speaker 1: have not. Rick pearl Elstein posted this Saturday night. I 535 00:39:07,155 --> 00:39:09,795 Speaker 1: found it comes from Facebook, but I am a Luddite, 536 00:39:10,395 --> 00:39:12,635 Speaker 1: so to this day I have not had the patience 537 00:39:12,835 --> 00:39:16,995 Speaker 1: to try to find the author who wrote it on Facebook. 538 00:39:17,035 --> 00:39:22,275 Speaker 1: But it's amazing. I'm going to assume it's real. I 539 00:39:22,315 --> 00:39:24,435 Speaker 1: may be falling victim to an Internet hoax, but I 540 00:39:24,955 --> 00:39:26,915 Speaker 1: don't think so. I'd say the odds are only one 541 00:39:26,915 --> 00:39:27,475 Speaker 1: in one hundred. 542 00:39:28,195 --> 00:39:28,475 Speaker 3: Quote. 543 00:39:28,555 --> 00:39:31,235 Speaker 1: One thing that has become really clear is that we 544 00:39:31,315 --> 00:39:34,275 Speaker 1: live in at least two different realities. Talking to a 545 00:39:34,315 --> 00:39:37,595 Speaker 1: friend who only knew Charlie as a Christian motivational speaker 546 00:39:37,635 --> 00:39:42,875 Speaker 1: because that's all that ever came across her feed. Showed 547 00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:46,435 Speaker 1: me videos I've never seen before of him saying perfectly 548 00:39:46,595 --> 00:39:52,875 Speaker 1: reasonable and empowering things. I showed her videos she'd never 549 00:39:52,915 --> 00:39:57,595 Speaker 1: seen before of his racism, misogyny, homophobia, advocating for violence 550 00:39:57,635 --> 00:40:01,035 Speaker 1: against specific groups of people. She was horrified by his 551 00:40:01,075 --> 00:40:04,675 Speaker 1: remarks about Pelosi's husband's attacker being bailed out and celebrated 552 00:40:04,915 --> 00:40:07,515 Speaker 1: for his violent act. She was horrified by a number 553 00:40:07,555 --> 00:40:10,275 Speaker 1: of things that he said, but she had never seen 554 00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:14,195 Speaker 1: or heard them before, the same as I had never 555 00:40:14,275 --> 00:40:16,755 Speaker 1: seen or heard the generalized clips of him sounding like 556 00:40:16,755 --> 00:40:21,075 Speaker 1: a perfectly nice, loving man and father. Neither of us 557 00:40:21,115 --> 00:40:24,115 Speaker 1: had a whole picture of this man. I mentioned he 558 00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:27,955 Speaker 1: was a known white supremacist, and she thought I was joking. 559 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,755 Speaker 1: She talked about him giving a speech about finding your 560 00:40:32,795 --> 00:40:34,595 Speaker 1: purpose and doing good in the world, and I thought 561 00:40:34,635 --> 00:40:39,475 Speaker 1: she was joking. Oh, and my friend had never heard 562 00:40:39,515 --> 00:40:41,435 Speaker 1: and God helped me. I don't know how she escaped 563 00:40:41,475 --> 00:40:43,155 Speaker 1: the news, but she had never heard of the Minnesota 564 00:40:43,235 --> 00:40:47,115 Speaker 1: legislators who were shot in June. The husband and wife 565 00:40:47,195 --> 00:40:51,275 Speaker 1: and dog who were killed, one after throwing themselves over 566 00:40:51,355 --> 00:40:54,315 Speaker 1: their child to protect the child. The other couple who 567 00:40:54,315 --> 00:40:58,395 Speaker 1: somehow survived politically motivated attacks, specifically because they were Democrats. 568 00:40:58,675 --> 00:41:01,995 Speaker 1: She learned about those shootings that happened months ago because 569 00:41:02,035 --> 00:41:06,275 Speaker 1: I showed her Charlie Kirk's comments about them, The kidnapping 570 00:41:06,315 --> 00:41:10,355 Speaker 1: plot against a female Midwestern Democratic governor, the assassination attempt 571 00:41:10,355 --> 00:41:14,315 Speaker 1: against Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, all things Charlie had plenty 572 00:41:14,355 --> 00:41:18,155 Speaker 1: to say about while supporting the Second Amendment and bashing 573 00:41:18,195 --> 00:41:23,075 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. She didn't know about any of it 574 00:41:23,155 --> 00:41:29,515 Speaker 1: because we are all living in two different worlds. And 575 00:41:29,675 --> 00:41:36,515 Speaker 1: the quote supplied by Rick Pearlstein, Facebook author unknown, it 576 00:41:36,555 --> 00:41:39,995 Speaker 1: boils down to this. In short, God knows how many 577 00:41:40,195 --> 00:41:44,715 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk's mourners and those planning, plotting, exacting revenge 578 00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:49,475 Speaker 1: right now never ever have heard him say this. 579 00:41:49,795 --> 00:41:52,155 Speaker 3: I want to watch that execution. That'll make my day better. 580 00:41:52,355 --> 00:41:55,155 Speaker 3: I want to see him on a public block and 581 00:41:55,355 --> 00:41:57,875 Speaker 3: get him be publicly executed. And I think that would 582 00:41:57,875 --> 00:42:02,115 Speaker 3: be justice. You think children should have, you should see it. 583 00:42:02,155 --> 00:42:05,035 Speaker 3: What is the age? What age should you start to 584 00:42:05,035 --> 00:42:06,875 Speaker 3: see public execution? Sixteen? 585 00:42:06,995 --> 00:42:08,835 Speaker 1: I think I think you could do it earlier. 586 00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:10,435 Speaker 3: I think you maybe at age twelve. 587 00:42:10,475 --> 00:42:11,515 Speaker 1: Whenever it's great or so. 588 00:42:11,755 --> 00:42:14,515 Speaker 3: Kirk describes King as quote a bad guy. It's true, 589 00:42:14,715 --> 00:42:19,195 Speaker 3: and Kirk's self described very very radical view that the 590 00:42:19,235 --> 00:42:21,475 Speaker 3: country made a mistake when it passed the Civil Rights 591 00:42:21,475 --> 00:42:22,475 Speaker 3: Act also true. 592 00:42:22,915 --> 00:42:23,715 Speaker 1: As we note in. 593 00:42:23,675 --> 00:42:26,155 Speaker 3: The piece, Kirk has previously described Kirk as a hero 594 00:42:26,235 --> 00:42:27,915 Speaker 3: and a civil rights icon. It's true, I used to 595 00:42:27,955 --> 00:42:31,435 Speaker 3: be wrong. What inspired Kirk to shift his view on MLK? 596 00:42:31,755 --> 00:42:33,995 Speaker 3: Why does Kirk think that MLK is a bad guy? 597 00:42:34,275 --> 00:42:38,315 Speaker 3: When Kirk says that MLKA says quote one good thing, 598 00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,915 Speaker 3: he didn't believe, what does he mean by that? Why 599 00:42:40,915 --> 00:42:43,315 Speaker 3: does Kirk believe passing the Civil Rights Act was a mistake? 600 00:42:43,355 --> 00:42:45,115 Speaker 3: Now Again, apparently they don't listen to the show, because 601 00:42:45,115 --> 00:42:47,155 Speaker 3: we do it at least once a week, right, once 602 00:42:47,195 --> 00:42:48,715 Speaker 3: a week we talked about why the Civil Rights Act 603 00:42:48,795 --> 00:42:49,315 Speaker 3: was a mistake. 604 00:42:49,675 --> 00:42:52,675 Speaker 1: The second thing I think is in play that explains 605 00:42:52,715 --> 00:42:55,715 Speaker 1: the overreaction, the threats, the docks, and the promises of 606 00:42:55,795 --> 00:42:59,235 Speaker 1: vengeance unspoken because they're all King leering this. They'll threaten 607 00:42:59,315 --> 00:43:02,515 Speaker 1: you now and then figure out what they're threatening with later. 608 00:43:02,675 --> 00:43:04,675 Speaker 1: The right wing is suddenly and for the first time 609 00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:09,955 Speaker 1: in at least a decade, scared. I mean since Obama 610 00:43:10,035 --> 00:43:12,515 Speaker 1: chose not to prosecute or even expose anybody in the 611 00:43:12,515 --> 00:43:16,715 Speaker 1: Bush administration for an orchestrated campaign of torture and an 612 00:43:16,835 --> 00:43:20,555 Speaker 1: orchestrated campaign of manipulation of terror threats to use them 613 00:43:20,595 --> 00:43:25,235 Speaker 1: against the American public. The right wing, especially the unstable 614 00:43:25,355 --> 00:43:27,755 Speaker 1: end of the right wing, has known it will get 615 00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:32,675 Speaker 1: no blowback from the Democrats none. As I said the 616 00:43:32,755 --> 00:43:35,595 Speaker 1: night before Obama was inaugurated, if a president or those 617 00:43:35,635 --> 00:43:38,715 Speaker 1: working for him commit crimes and you specifically choose not 618 00:43:38,875 --> 00:43:42,795 Speaker 1: to prosecute him and them, the next president knows in 619 00:43:42,875 --> 00:43:45,675 Speaker 1: advance that those laws do not apply to him and them. 620 00:43:47,995 --> 00:43:52,435 Speaker 1: That was Trump's glideway. Biden, of course, made it worse, 621 00:43:52,475 --> 00:43:55,115 Speaker 1: assuming not just that the country was elastic and would 622 00:43:55,115 --> 00:43:57,675 Speaker 1: snap back to shape as soon as Trump was out, 623 00:43:58,995 --> 00:44:00,915 Speaker 1: but that he would be harming its recovery if he 624 00:44:00,955 --> 00:44:03,795 Speaker 1: puts somebody at justice who was willing to prosecute Trump. 625 00:44:03,795 --> 00:44:08,595 Speaker 1: As of twelve h one on January twenty twenty one, 626 00:44:08,675 --> 00:44:11,035 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland will go down in history if there isn't 627 00:44:11,075 --> 00:44:17,555 Speaker 1: a history near James Buchanan for criminal negligence in public office. Sadly, 628 00:44:17,595 --> 00:44:20,875 Speaker 1: I suspect now Joe Biden will go with him, so 629 00:44:20,995 --> 00:44:24,435 Speaker 1: against that backdrop. Even during Trump's time as the crazed, 630 00:44:24,515 --> 00:44:29,475 Speaker 1: exiled dictator, his bonaparte days, the increasingly despotic rite has 631 00:44:29,515 --> 00:44:32,235 Speaker 1: pretty much gotten away with everything since Trump came down 632 00:44:32,315 --> 00:44:34,635 Speaker 1: that escalator, and the damn thing didn't open up and 633 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:37,595 Speaker 1: swallow him in roote. I mean, Trump was even shot 634 00:44:38,395 --> 00:44:43,955 Speaker 1: and stalked with surprising and terrifying success. I will confess 635 00:44:44,035 --> 00:44:46,595 Speaker 1: I believe for quite a while that his involuntary ear 636 00:44:46,675 --> 00:44:49,635 Speaker 1: piercing was from glass shards and not bullets. But I 637 00:44:49,715 --> 00:44:53,915 Speaker 1: never doubted he was the victim of an assassination attempt. 638 00:44:54,475 --> 00:44:58,715 Speaker 1: The second one, the one at the golf course, was 639 00:44:58,795 --> 00:45:04,235 Speaker 1: far less serious, but still that guy got stunningly close 640 00:45:04,755 --> 00:45:11,475 Speaker 1: to doing something genuinely threatening. The religious lunatic wing of 641 00:45:11,515 --> 00:45:15,395 Speaker 1: the proverbial basket of deplorables quickly turned those episodes into 642 00:45:15,475 --> 00:45:21,035 Speaker 1: God preserving Trump, and once Trump saw the campaign value 643 00:45:21,035 --> 00:45:24,675 Speaker 1: of that, I have God's endorsement, to say nothing of 644 00:45:24,675 --> 00:45:27,195 Speaker 1: the license it gave him to complain about something else 645 00:45:27,275 --> 00:45:31,035 Speaker 1: all the damn time, all the goddamned time, he began 646 00:45:31,075 --> 00:45:32,835 Speaker 1: to adopt it too, And if you can remember back 647 00:45:32,835 --> 00:45:35,755 Speaker 1: to last month, he was still campaigning off this phony 648 00:45:35,795 --> 00:45:42,795 Speaker 1: religious awakening thing. When he went MIA and he put 649 00:45:42,795 --> 00:45:44,915 Speaker 1: out these I want to try to get to Heaven 650 00:45:44,995 --> 00:45:48,315 Speaker 1: fundraising email blasts. I'll say it again, don't let us 651 00:45:48,355 --> 00:45:53,675 Speaker 1: stop your pal. The problem with religious fervor and the 652 00:45:53,675 --> 00:45:56,835 Speaker 1: belief that you are ordained or imbued or protected or 653 00:45:56,875 --> 00:45:58,795 Speaker 1: something is that you soon begin to treat it as 654 00:45:58,795 --> 00:46:03,875 Speaker 1: an endless salad bowl. As the counter terrorism experts used 655 00:46:03,875 --> 00:46:05,515 Speaker 1: to tell me when the micro phones were off, we 656 00:46:05,595 --> 00:46:07,995 Speaker 1: have one hidden advantage over the terrorists that we don't 657 00:46:08,035 --> 00:46:12,275 Speaker 1: like to emphasize, just in case they're watching and they realize, hey, 658 00:46:12,315 --> 00:46:17,235 Speaker 1: they're right. A terrorist who mixes in belief in divine 659 00:46:17,355 --> 00:46:21,715 Speaker 1: protection and intervention and I'm doing God's plan or whoever's plan, 660 00:46:22,275 --> 00:46:25,155 Speaker 1: that person tends to put together the most meticulous and 661 00:46:25,315 --> 00:46:28,915 Speaker 1: intricate plan for the first eighty five to ninety percent 662 00:46:28,915 --> 00:46:31,875 Speaker 1: of the attack. The last ten percent, God will take 663 00:46:31,875 --> 00:46:35,795 Speaker 1: care of us. He's on our side. What do you 664 00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:40,355 Speaker 1: mean you didn't get an escape car. As a quick reminder, 665 00:46:40,555 --> 00:46:43,755 Speaker 1: I also don't think there has ever been a war, conventional, 666 00:46:43,795 --> 00:46:46,595 Speaker 1: guerrilla or terror based, in which the losing side was 667 00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:50,195 Speaker 1: not actually stunned when they lost, because wait, wait, wait, 668 00:46:50,275 --> 00:46:53,275 Speaker 1: did the Lord take the day off? He said we 669 00:46:53,275 --> 00:46:56,915 Speaker 1: were going to win? I heard him, What do you 670 00:46:56,955 --> 00:46:59,555 Speaker 1: mean that was a tumor? So Maga and the rest 671 00:46:59,595 --> 00:47:01,995 Speaker 1: have been operating all this time, not just convinced of 672 00:47:02,035 --> 00:47:08,475 Speaker 1: political invincibility, but of actual invincs ability, actual immortality until 673 00:47:08,555 --> 00:47:14,395 Speaker 1: last Wednesday. I am unafraid to say this. I don't 674 00:47:14,435 --> 00:47:18,755 Speaker 1: think it costs me credibility. I am against shooting political commentators, 675 00:47:19,435 --> 00:47:26,915 Speaker 1: mostly because I'm a political commentator. I am against shooting 676 00:47:26,955 --> 00:47:31,115 Speaker 1: people in general. But the commentator part is, you know personal. 677 00:47:33,435 --> 00:47:35,475 Speaker 1: Can you say that on the right and not get 678 00:47:35,475 --> 00:47:39,755 Speaker 1: thrown out of the macho or female macho club? And 679 00:47:39,835 --> 00:47:41,915 Speaker 1: if you can't say it, you not only have in 680 00:47:41,955 --> 00:47:44,235 Speaker 1: your mind that video of Charlie Kirk in an almost 681 00:47:44,235 --> 00:47:47,235 Speaker 1: exact frame for frame match of the assassination of the 682 00:47:47,555 --> 00:47:51,195 Speaker 1: fictional Senator John Yerki's Iceland from the Manchurian candidate, but 683 00:47:51,275 --> 00:47:55,355 Speaker 1: you naturally can envision that being you, and you can't 684 00:47:55,435 --> 00:48:00,435 Speaker 1: say that terrifies you, even though saying that terrifies me. 685 00:48:00,835 --> 00:48:02,635 Speaker 1: That would be the most human things most of these 686 00:48:02,715 --> 00:48:06,715 Speaker 1: Yaho's had done in the last decade. So for many 687 00:48:06,755 --> 00:48:09,195 Speaker 1: of the other mag assholes, who this time last week 688 00:48:09,235 --> 00:48:12,555 Speaker 1: were criticizing Charlie Kirk, or scheming behind his back to 689 00:48:12,555 --> 00:48:15,075 Speaker 1: take his online audience away from him, or trying to 690 00:48:15,075 --> 00:48:19,635 Speaker 1: get pasted him to Trump. Laura Lumer Kough cough the 691 00:48:19,675 --> 00:48:23,315 Speaker 1: current rage and vengeance tour is in part a cover 692 00:48:23,715 --> 00:48:29,155 Speaker 1: for their own fear. A British conservative columnist said he's 693 00:48:29,155 --> 00:48:32,475 Speaker 1: now for the first time in his life afraid. The 694 00:48:32,555 --> 00:48:35,955 Speaker 1: Times had six fascists write blurbs about why they were 695 00:48:36,035 --> 00:48:40,795 Speaker 1: running away. Peter McHugh, editor of a conservative student rag 696 00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:44,235 Speaker 1: at the University of Virginia, says, I'm out quote. Even 697 00:48:44,275 --> 00:48:46,675 Speaker 1: those committed to many of the things mister Kirk encouraged 698 00:48:46,715 --> 00:48:50,195 Speaker 1: conversation political engagement are questioning if it's worth the risk. 699 00:48:50,795 --> 00:48:54,555 Speaker 1: This morning, another writer at The Jefferson Independent confided that 700 00:48:54,595 --> 00:48:58,115 Speaker 1: they would never again attend a university sponsored political event. 701 00:48:58,675 --> 00:49:02,195 Speaker 1: The fear that controversial speech can provoke genuine violence is 702 00:49:02,235 --> 00:49:09,875 Speaker 1: no longer theoretical for students but real translation appropriate to Virginia. 703 00:49:10,515 --> 00:49:13,395 Speaker 1: When I quoted Patrick Henry saying give me liberty or 704 00:49:13,395 --> 00:49:19,515 Speaker 1: give me death, I meant your death. And I think 705 00:49:19,515 --> 00:49:22,475 Speaker 1: there's even a second level to this fear, as the 706 00:49:22,555 --> 00:49:26,075 Speaker 1: reverence for Kirk inside the authoritarian plot was a surprise 707 00:49:26,155 --> 00:49:28,675 Speaker 1: to most of us out here in the real world. 708 00:49:29,195 --> 00:49:32,075 Speaker 1: So too was what is now obviously a deep and 709 00:49:32,115 --> 00:49:38,555 Speaker 1: pervasive hatred of his influence and ubiquity. What if it's 710 00:49:38,555 --> 00:49:42,875 Speaker 1: true in Kirk really was oft by words from his 711 00:49:42,995 --> 00:49:46,835 Speaker 1: own side. Now they all have to worry about that. 712 00:49:48,795 --> 00:49:51,755 Speaker 1: It is part and parcel of all authoritarian movements, that 713 00:49:51,795 --> 00:49:55,755 Speaker 1: the bloodlust doesn't just emanate outwards, can't find an enemy 714 00:49:55,795 --> 00:50:00,075 Speaker 1: to destroy, try an ally, like the Loomer quote I 715 00:50:00,155 --> 00:50:03,195 Speaker 1: read and the Fuentes clip I played before the break 716 00:50:04,315 --> 00:50:09,315 Speaker 1: and the you know, the whole French Revolution, so long 717 00:50:09,355 --> 00:50:11,635 Speaker 1: before the rest of us found out about the groper 718 00:50:11,755 --> 00:50:14,875 Speaker 1: war against Kirk and the bitterness towards him within MAGA, 719 00:50:15,315 --> 00:50:18,275 Speaker 1: there was far more resentment of him, far more schism 720 00:50:18,435 --> 00:50:21,155 Speaker 1: than we could have possibly known or cared about. Frankly, 721 00:50:22,155 --> 00:50:24,875 Speaker 1: which head of the hydra is the worst? Who cares? 722 00:50:25,715 --> 00:50:31,675 Speaker 1: Just cut it off? Well they care. And then there's 723 00:50:31,715 --> 00:50:34,355 Speaker 1: the tertiary level of this fear, the one that combines 724 00:50:34,435 --> 00:50:38,955 Speaker 1: the realization that no God is protecting them and that 725 00:50:38,995 --> 00:50:42,635 Speaker 1: the call may be coming from inside the house since 726 00:50:42,715 --> 00:50:46,635 Speaker 1: Kirk's murder, through all the twists and roller coasters, and 727 00:50:46,715 --> 00:50:51,275 Speaker 1: trumpest lies and Ezra Kleine, inanities and assumptions and presumptions. 728 00:50:51,315 --> 00:50:53,755 Speaker 1: I have kept coming back to three words, the exact 729 00:50:53,795 --> 00:50:55,875 Speaker 1: relevance of which has not been immediately clear to me, 730 00:50:56,035 --> 00:50:59,795 Speaker 1: but which I was certain had some relevance. The three 731 00:50:59,835 --> 00:51:05,195 Speaker 1: words are Lee Harvey Oswald. I do not want to 732 00:51:05,195 --> 00:51:08,755 Speaker 1: make false equivalencies here. I'll repeat this. I am opposed 733 00:51:09,275 --> 00:51:14,995 Speaker 1: to shooting political commentators. I appreciate my main reason for 734 00:51:15,075 --> 00:51:17,475 Speaker 1: my opposition may seem self centered to you. I think 735 00:51:17,475 --> 00:51:20,395 Speaker 1: it's justifiable. I'm opposed to shooting political commentators because I'm 736 00:51:20,395 --> 00:51:24,315 Speaker 1: a political commentator. I am opposed to shooting anybody. I'm 737 00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:29,435 Speaker 1: opposed to shooting presidents, but that requires a longer explanation. 738 00:51:30,995 --> 00:51:34,155 Speaker 1: Invoking Oswald does not mean I am, for a moment, 739 00:51:34,195 --> 00:51:38,515 Speaker 1: equating Charlie Kirk and President Kennedy. I am, in the 740 00:51:38,515 --> 00:51:44,275 Speaker 1: most preliminary way possible, equating this suspect Tyler Robinson to Oswald. Obviously, 741 00:51:44,315 --> 00:51:48,035 Speaker 1: the shot itself continues to inspire disbelief. On the other hand, 742 00:51:48,075 --> 00:51:50,275 Speaker 1: if people could not hit a target at such distance, 743 00:51:50,475 --> 00:51:52,555 Speaker 1: guns would be far less of a threat, wouldn't they. 744 00:51:53,675 --> 00:51:57,515 Speaker 1: Guns make idiots? Into agents of historical change, and guns 745 00:51:57,555 --> 00:52:01,795 Speaker 1: make cowards into legends. But more importantly, the further you 746 00:52:01,835 --> 00:52:04,115 Speaker 1: dig down into Robinson, the more you discover it's just 747 00:52:04,195 --> 00:52:08,235 Speaker 1: one leg level of nihilism. It was hiding another level 748 00:52:08,235 --> 00:52:13,955 Speaker 1: of nihilism. One high school classmate summed up what he 749 00:52:14,035 --> 00:52:16,275 Speaker 1: knew of Robinson and said, he probably just shot Kirk 750 00:52:16,395 --> 00:52:20,555 Speaker 1: just to impress his friends. And if it is the 751 00:52:20,595 --> 00:52:24,155 Speaker 1: Groper thing, what do they believe in anyway? Nominally they 752 00:52:24,155 --> 00:52:28,195 Speaker 1: are ultra fascists, ultra white supremacists, ultra arians, and they're 753 00:52:28,275 --> 00:52:31,555 Speaker 1: led by a guy named Fuentes, who, by definition is 754 00:52:31,635 --> 00:52:34,035 Speaker 1: viewed by a large percentage of the less murderous MAGA 755 00:52:34,195 --> 00:52:39,795 Speaker 1: as not being uh totally white. The groper belief system 756 00:52:39,875 --> 00:52:43,435 Speaker 1: is less we hate them than it is you over there, 757 00:52:43,475 --> 00:52:47,155 Speaker 1: we hate you. It is an excuse to bond with 758 00:52:47,195 --> 00:52:49,355 Speaker 1: other people who want to threaten or shoot or kill, 759 00:52:49,395 --> 00:52:51,355 Speaker 1: but need to believe they're doing it for a reason, 760 00:52:53,475 --> 00:52:55,955 Speaker 1: which is where there is cause to consider this Tyler 761 00:52:56,035 --> 00:53:01,155 Speaker 1: Robinson a possible twenty first century version of Oswalt. Even 762 00:53:01,435 --> 00:53:03,755 Speaker 1: at the time, and I was old enough then to 763 00:53:03,795 --> 00:53:08,275 Speaker 1: remember it vaguely, even at the time of the shooting, 764 00:53:10,315 --> 00:53:14,475 Speaker 1: this was out there? What the hell happened here? I 765 00:53:14,675 --> 00:53:16,955 Speaker 1: was old enough to see the first public showings of 766 00:53:16,995 --> 00:53:19,395 Speaker 1: the Supruder film in school in nineteen seventy. I was 767 00:53:19,435 --> 00:53:22,195 Speaker 1: old enough to see the tail end of the first 768 00:53:22,235 --> 00:53:24,555 Speaker 1: backlash to the war and commission, and of course the 769 00:53:24,595 --> 00:53:28,675 Speaker 1: one hundred backlashes since, and even at the time, One 770 00:53:28,675 --> 00:53:31,155 Speaker 1: of the most confounding and panic inducing parts of the 771 00:53:31,155 --> 00:53:35,715 Speaker 1: assassination of President Kennedy was why which group was behind this? 772 00:53:36,995 --> 00:53:39,395 Speaker 1: Even if it really was a lone gunman, which group's 773 00:53:39,395 --> 00:53:44,795 Speaker 1: beliefs was he turning into such horrible action? Having studied 774 00:53:44,795 --> 00:53:47,715 Speaker 1: and analyzed and contemplated this for more than sixty years now, 775 00:53:47,715 --> 00:53:50,475 Speaker 1: I think the correct answer is Lee Harvey Oswald believed 776 00:53:50,475 --> 00:53:54,235 Speaker 1: in nothing except in his murderous rage that he was 777 00:53:54,275 --> 00:53:59,715 Speaker 1: not famous for something. Yet the confusion after the assassination 778 00:53:59,835 --> 00:54:01,755 Speaker 1: only grew as we learned about what he had done 779 00:54:01,755 --> 00:54:06,475 Speaker 1: in life. He'd been in the Marines, a military dictatorship. 780 00:54:06,995 --> 00:54:09,075 Speaker 1: Then he moved to the Soviet Union. Who did that 781 00:54:09,115 --> 00:54:11,435 Speaker 1: in the fifties? Oh, no, I know, it's the Communist 782 00:54:11,955 --> 00:54:14,835 Speaker 1: Besides defactors and spies, he had expected to be a 783 00:54:14,915 --> 00:54:17,755 Speaker 1: king there. An American convert to Communism. Instead, he got 784 00:54:17,795 --> 00:54:20,755 Speaker 1: a wife who he didn't really like that much and 785 00:54:20,835 --> 00:54:23,035 Speaker 1: a crap job in a crap country, and he moved 786 00:54:23,035 --> 00:54:27,515 Speaker 1: back and renounced Russia and communism. Okay, so now he's 787 00:54:27,555 --> 00:54:30,675 Speaker 1: some sort of Russian plant. And in the same year 788 00:54:30,675 --> 00:54:34,875 Speaker 1: that he shot Kennedy, and yeah, he shoined Kennedy. In 789 00:54:34,915 --> 00:54:37,435 Speaker 1: April of nineteen sixty three, tried to kill the rabid 790 00:54:37,515 --> 00:54:42,435 Speaker 1: right wing racist army General Edwin Walker in Dallas. Then 791 00:54:42,475 --> 00:54:44,475 Speaker 1: in August nineteen sixty three, he was on the streets 792 00:54:44,475 --> 00:54:47,915 Speaker 1: of New Orleans handing out leaflets defending the Castro communist 793 00:54:47,915 --> 00:54:54,795 Speaker 1: dictatorship in Cuba. Pick a side if you want to 794 00:54:54,835 --> 00:54:58,675 Speaker 1: do some amateur psychoanalysis. By this point, all politics was 795 00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:01,635 Speaker 1: just one thing to him. He wanted to become famous 796 00:55:01,675 --> 00:55:09,675 Speaker 1: by shooting somebody else famous. You can construct a more 797 00:55:09,715 --> 00:55:12,555 Speaker 1: complicated explanation for all of that. You can construct a 798 00:55:12,595 --> 00:55:15,355 Speaker 1: thousand of them, men, Lord knows, in the last six days, 799 00:55:15,715 --> 00:55:19,395 Speaker 1: six decades. In each case, we have constructed all the 800 00:55:19,435 --> 00:55:24,395 Speaker 1: complicated explanations for the Kennedy and kirk assassinations. But they 801 00:55:24,475 --> 00:55:27,955 Speaker 1: all hit at least one immovable factual problem or another. 802 00:55:28,075 --> 00:55:30,195 Speaker 1: In the Kennedy case, and they all fail to leap 803 00:55:30,235 --> 00:55:34,595 Speaker 1: over Akham's razor. A guy in a gun filled society fails, 804 00:55:35,115 --> 00:55:39,035 Speaker 1: fails again, fails again, repeats, retraces, keeps failing, goes nuts, 805 00:55:39,115 --> 00:55:43,075 Speaker 1: is given an opportunity and a gun and a nightmare ensues. 806 00:55:44,275 --> 00:55:52,115 Speaker 1: That's Oswald parts of it right now, that's Robinson. That's 807 00:55:52,155 --> 00:55:55,795 Speaker 1: the worst. That's the most destabilizing fear of them all. 808 00:55:56,515 --> 00:56:04,955 Speaker 1: The realizingization that no, it's not not them the other side. No, 809 00:56:05,195 --> 00:56:09,595 Speaker 1: you're not divinely protected. To know nothing is permanent, nothing 810 00:56:09,675 --> 00:56:14,395 Speaker 1: in Saane is safe, that it's all to some degree 811 00:56:14,435 --> 00:56:19,795 Speaker 1: from partly to totally, that it's all, including the cliched 812 00:56:19,875 --> 00:56:31,835 Speaker 1: bullet with your name on it, that it is all random. 813 00:56:32,035 --> 00:56:59,715 Speaker 1: Worst persons. Next, this is countdown with Keith Olberman. Believe 814 00:56:59,755 --> 00:57:02,355 Speaker 1: it or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about. 815 00:57:02,395 --> 00:57:05,555 Speaker 1: The roundup of the miscreants, morons and uning Kruger effects 816 00:57:05,555 --> 00:57:12,195 Speaker 1: specimens who constitute today's other worst persons. 817 00:57:13,395 --> 00:57:14,155 Speaker 2: In the world. 818 00:57:16,115 --> 00:57:20,875 Speaker 1: The Bronze Worse Ezra Kleine. You've heard about this already. 819 00:57:21,995 --> 00:57:28,355 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was practicing politics the right way. Next week, 820 00:57:28,915 --> 00:57:33,915 Speaker 1: Brian Kilmead was practicing television the right way. You can 821 00:57:33,955 --> 00:57:37,075 Speaker 1: dislike much of what Kirk believed, and the following statement 822 00:57:37,155 --> 00:57:41,595 Speaker 1: is still true. Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the 823 00:57:41,675 --> 00:57:45,275 Speaker 1: right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking 824 00:57:45,315 --> 00:57:47,915 Speaker 1: with anyone who would talk to him. He was one 825 00:57:47,955 --> 00:57:52,275 Speaker 1: of the era's most effective practitioners of persuasion. When the 826 00:57:52,395 --> 00:57:54,475 Speaker 1: Left thought its hold on the hearts and minds of 827 00:57:54,675 --> 00:57:58,115 Speaker 1: college students was nearly absolute, Kirk showed up again and 828 00:57:58,155 --> 00:58:02,275 Speaker 1: again to break it, slowly, then all at once. He did. 829 00:58:04,715 --> 00:58:07,515 Speaker 1: You know how he did it? He never bothered to 830 00:58:07,555 --> 00:58:11,235 Speaker 1: worry about telling the truth. It's like Fox News. How 831 00:58:11,275 --> 00:58:14,435 Speaker 1: could they possibly produce that much garbage all the time. 832 00:58:15,035 --> 00:58:19,075 Speaker 1: It's lies. It's lies for an audience that never asks, 833 00:58:19,395 --> 00:58:23,315 Speaker 1: is this lies? Never asks how come these lies don't 834 00:58:23,315 --> 00:58:29,675 Speaker 1: match last week's lies. Charlie Kirk was a gifted bullshit artist. 835 00:58:30,715 --> 00:58:35,275 Speaker 1: I'll give him proper credit for that. As they all are. 836 00:58:35,915 --> 00:58:42,435 Speaker 1: They are sophists, They are perpetrators of circular logic, and 837 00:58:42,795 --> 00:58:45,675 Speaker 1: they have an audience that just wants to have their 838 00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:52,875 Speaker 1: own prejudices and beliefs reinforced. They never criticize their own people. 839 00:58:53,395 --> 00:58:56,395 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, they do. There was that little problem 840 00:58:56,435 --> 00:59:01,155 Speaker 1: with Charlie and everybody farther to the right than him. 841 00:59:01,355 --> 00:59:03,315 Speaker 1: In any event, that's not the point. The point here 842 00:59:03,355 --> 00:59:06,915 Speaker 1: is Ezra Kleine. You know, when they told me Ezra 843 00:59:06,995 --> 00:59:09,315 Speaker 1: Kline had been hired as a columnist by The New 844 00:59:09,395 --> 00:59:12,715 Speaker 1: York Times, I thought it was a gag. Now I'm 845 00:59:12,835 --> 00:59:16,755 Speaker 1: just gagging. Years ago, one of our segment producers who 846 00:59:16,795 --> 00:59:19,795 Speaker 1: once pitched us on a segment that she had read 847 00:59:19,915 --> 00:59:22,795 Speaker 1: a story about She wanted to do this segment about 848 00:59:22,835 --> 00:59:26,755 Speaker 1: how you lost two IQ points for every child you had. 849 00:59:27,635 --> 00:59:30,635 Speaker 1: And I didn't have time to vet every one of 850 00:59:30,635 --> 00:59:33,395 Speaker 1: the guest segments. In the early days of Countdown, when 851 00:59:33,395 --> 00:59:37,355 Speaker 1: it wasn't just a political show, I said, Okay, I 852 00:59:37,395 --> 00:59:41,715 Speaker 1: don't have children. I guess it's true. We got Carl Reiner, 853 00:59:42,715 --> 00:59:46,195 Speaker 1: mel Brooks comedic partner father of Rob, to come on 854 00:59:46,355 --> 00:59:49,595 Speaker 1: as the guest, and in the middle of my interview 855 00:59:49,595 --> 00:59:52,115 Speaker 1: with Carl Reiner, he said, Keith, I love the show, 856 00:59:52,155 --> 00:59:54,595 Speaker 1: but I don't think this is a real story. And 857 00:59:54,635 --> 00:59:58,355 Speaker 1: you know what it wasn't. The producer had not noticed 858 00:59:58,675 --> 01:00:01,755 Speaker 1: she had been reading this story on a satirical site. 859 01:00:02,555 --> 01:00:06,435 Speaker 1: Then she had two more pet projects. He kept pushing people. 860 01:00:06,515 --> 01:00:09,155 Speaker 1: She wanted on as guests. They'll improve the show so 861 01:00:09,315 --> 01:00:11,555 Speaker 1: much you have to put them on. The first one 862 01:00:11,635 --> 01:00:16,235 Speaker 1: was Ezra Kleine, so we did. I forget where he 863 01:00:16,315 --> 01:00:18,515 Speaker 1: was working. Then he was so boring. His insights were 864 01:00:18,555 --> 01:00:21,395 Speaker 1: so superficial that I actually ended the interview early and 865 01:00:21,435 --> 01:00:26,315 Speaker 1: I said off camera, never again. Then they booked her 866 01:00:26,395 --> 01:00:29,795 Speaker 1: second grade idea. That was Ryan Liza. He was so 867 01:00:30,435 --> 01:00:33,715 Speaker 1: used car salesman ish. I actually ended that interview early 868 01:00:33,955 --> 01:00:36,075 Speaker 1: and I said never again. And I said to my 869 01:00:36,155 --> 01:00:40,115 Speaker 1: show producers about the segment producer, maybe she needs to 870 01:00:40,195 --> 01:00:45,035 Speaker 1: work elsewhere. She then went to work for Glenn Beck. 871 01:00:46,195 --> 01:00:51,475 Speaker 1: I'm hoping she works with Ezra Kleine. Now. The enconiums 872 01:00:52,075 --> 01:00:56,275 Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk in the New York Times, somebody said, 873 01:00:56,315 --> 01:00:58,635 Speaker 1: well he's dead, we better say something nice about him. 874 01:00:58,755 --> 01:01:02,195 Speaker 1: Who can we say something nice about? Who's good at 875 01:01:02,195 --> 01:01:06,595 Speaker 1: writing nonsensical things that don't hold together in praise of 876 01:01:06,755 --> 01:01:12,635 Speaker 1: stupid thing. Oh that's why we hired Ezra Kline. Runner 877 01:01:12,715 --> 01:01:17,755 Speaker 1: up worser Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. Uh, here we 878 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:22,675 Speaker 1: go from Britain's Daily Mail headline quote, Texas Attorney General's 879 01:01:22,675 --> 01:01:26,795 Speaker 1: caught in shocking sex scandal as details of secret affair 880 01:01:26,875 --> 01:01:35,835 Speaker 1: with married Christian influencer mom of seven are exposed, define 881 01:01:36,395 --> 01:01:42,635 Speaker 1: shocking Texas's controversial attorney general the story began, has been 882 01:01:42,715 --> 01:01:45,595 Speaker 1: caught in a shocking sex scandal less than two years 883 01:01:45,595 --> 01:01:48,555 Speaker 1: after cheating on his wife with his mistress. The Daily 884 01:01:48,595 --> 01:01:53,275 Speaker 1: Mail can exclusively reveal Ken Paxton, sixty two, was secretly 885 01:01:53,395 --> 01:01:57,075 Speaker 1: seeing a married Christian influencer behind the backs of both 886 01:01:57,115 --> 01:02:02,355 Speaker 1: their partners. Sounds entertaining, at least behind the backs. Multiple 887 01:02:02,395 --> 01:02:06,755 Speaker 1: sources confirm mother of seven, Tracy Douhan fifty seven, who 888 01:02:06,795 --> 01:02:10,435 Speaker 1: is also an author, is the reason the politician's relationship 889 01:02:10,635 --> 01:02:15,875 Speaker 1: crumbled earlier this summer. Texas State Senator Angela Paxton announced 890 01:02:15,915 --> 01:02:19,275 Speaker 1: in July their thirty eight year old marriage was over 891 01:02:19,555 --> 01:02:26,115 Speaker 1: in a stinging tweet, citing biblical grounds. She hit him 892 01:02:26,115 --> 01:02:27,995 Speaker 1: in the nuts for the Bible. It is not the 893 01:02:28,035 --> 01:02:31,675 Speaker 1: first time Ken Paxton has been rocked by scandal, having 894 01:02:31,755 --> 01:02:34,595 Speaker 1: been caught cheating on Angela in twenty twenty three with 895 01:02:34,715 --> 01:02:39,715 Speaker 1: his former mistress Laura Olsen. Oh no, what a shock, 896 01:02:40,075 --> 01:02:45,835 Speaker 1: Ken Paxton screwing around? Ken's trying to become the senator 897 01:02:45,875 --> 01:02:48,715 Speaker 1: from Texas. I'm sure he'll win. I mean, after all, 898 01:02:49,115 --> 01:02:52,395 Speaker 1: Texas have all known for a long time that Ken 899 01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:58,795 Speaker 1: Paxton has a wandering eye, so to speak. But the 900 01:02:58,875 --> 01:03:04,915 Speaker 1: worst Rachel Madow, Chris Hayes, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Everybo nobody 901 01:03:04,955 --> 01:03:09,915 Speaker 1: else at MSNBC with any sway or heft there except 902 01:03:09,995 --> 01:03:12,675 Speaker 1: in an irony. I would call it an irony except 903 01:03:12,755 --> 01:03:17,515 Speaker 1: Katie term. Katie actually comes out at the top of 904 01:03:17,595 --> 01:03:21,435 Speaker 1: this list in the correct behavior. I was never a 905 01:03:21,515 --> 01:03:26,395 Speaker 1: Matthew Dowd fan. Matt presented himself as the reasonable Republican. 906 01:03:26,595 --> 01:03:28,435 Speaker 1: On the other hand, he was a key perpetrator in 907 01:03:28,475 --> 01:03:31,555 Speaker 1: Bush's two thousand and four re election campaign. He was 908 01:03:31,595 --> 01:03:34,435 Speaker 1: one of them who pretended the swift voting of John Kerry, 909 01:03:35,075 --> 01:03:37,435 Speaker 1: or the sudden release of the bin Laden video the 910 01:03:37,475 --> 01:03:41,115 Speaker 1: weekend before the election, or the other terror manipulations were 911 01:03:41,155 --> 01:03:45,475 Speaker 1: not really part of the campaign. He and I I did, 912 01:03:45,835 --> 01:03:48,875 Speaker 1: I think, did one panel together later on this week 913 01:03:48,875 --> 01:03:54,515 Speaker 1: with George Stephanopolis one Sunday morning on ABC. I would 914 01:03:54,555 --> 01:03:55,835 Speaker 1: not have put him on a list of the one 915 01:03:55,875 --> 01:03:58,155 Speaker 1: hundred worst Conservatives, but I wouldn't have put him on 916 01:03:58,155 --> 01:04:01,875 Speaker 1: a list of the one hundred best either. Until last 917 01:04:01,915 --> 01:04:05,435 Speaker 1: week in the hours after Charlie Kirk shot. He said 918 01:04:05,435 --> 01:04:09,715 Speaker 1: some tough truth. He said it somberly, he said it solemnly, 919 01:04:10,435 --> 01:04:12,875 Speaker 1: And to Katie Ur's credit, she didn't back away from him. 920 01:04:12,875 --> 01:04:16,515 Speaker 1: She didn't tut him, she didn't tell the principle on him. 921 01:04:17,035 --> 01:04:19,235 Speaker 1: To Doud, it did not matter what was presumed about 922 01:04:19,275 --> 01:04:22,195 Speaker 1: the shooter. It mattered to that Charlie Kirk trafficked in 923 01:04:22,275 --> 01:04:26,195 Speaker 1: hate and violence and political threat and intimidation and an 924 01:04:26,235 --> 01:04:30,755 Speaker 1: effort to undermine our democracy. It needed to be said. 925 01:04:31,715 --> 01:04:34,915 Speaker 1: Katie asked him about the overall environment in which indefensible 926 01:04:34,915 --> 01:04:39,355 Speaker 1: events like his assassination happened, and Matt Dowd told the 927 01:04:39,355 --> 01:04:43,115 Speaker 1: truth quote, He's been one of the most divisive, especially 928 01:04:43,115 --> 01:04:46,235 Speaker 1: divisive younger figures in this who was constantly sort of 929 01:04:46,275 --> 01:04:49,075 Speaker 1: pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed 930 01:04:49,075 --> 01:04:51,915 Speaker 1: at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful 931 01:04:51,955 --> 01:04:55,275 Speaker 1: thoughts lead to hateful words, which lead to hateful actions. 932 01:04:55,595 --> 01:04:57,635 Speaker 1: And I think that is the environment we are in. 933 01:04:58,115 --> 01:05:00,315 Speaker 1: You can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you 934 01:05:00,395 --> 01:05:03,155 Speaker 1: have and then saying these awful words and not expect 935 01:05:03,195 --> 01:05:07,115 Speaker 1: awful actions to take place. And that's the unfortunate environment 936 01:05:07,235 --> 01:05:13,315 Speaker 1: we are in. Unquote that's true, not cheering the assassination 937 01:05:13,875 --> 01:05:18,315 Speaker 1: nor ignoring the shock. It wasn't too soon, it wasn't unfair. 938 01:05:18,435 --> 01:05:22,075 Speaker 1: It didn't blame Charlie Kirk for his own shooting. It 939 01:05:22,155 --> 01:05:24,475 Speaker 1: did not say it was justified. It did not say 940 01:05:24,635 --> 01:05:28,475 Speaker 1: shooting was justified. It was saying that eventually, if you 941 01:05:28,555 --> 01:05:32,235 Speaker 1: play with a gun, your odds of shooting yourself do 942 01:05:32,435 --> 01:05:37,835 Speaker 1: increase metaphorically speaking. And MSNBC fired him before the day 943 01:05:37,875 --> 01:05:42,035 Speaker 1: was over. The right wingers who now own and run 944 01:05:42,155 --> 01:05:46,035 Speaker 1: MSNBC or whatever they're calling it this week, the Comcast CEO, 945 01:05:46,995 --> 01:05:51,475 Speaker 1: a cowardly money monkey named Brian Roberts, somebody named Mike 946 01:05:51,555 --> 01:05:54,675 Speaker 1: Cabanaugh who assumed power after they had to fire Jeff 947 01:05:54,675 --> 01:05:57,715 Speaker 1: Shell for lying, and the chairman of the new company 948 01:05:57,755 --> 01:06:02,875 Speaker 1: they created to put distance between NBC and Comcast and MSNBC. 949 01:06:03,035 --> 01:06:08,355 Speaker 1: This thing versan't Spinco is a better name, Mark Lazarus. 950 01:06:08,755 --> 01:06:13,955 Speaker 1: They then warned the staff of MSNBC about dialogue with 951 01:06:14,115 --> 01:06:16,715 Speaker 1: respect and we need to do better, and the usual 952 01:06:16,795 --> 01:06:20,755 Speaker 1: language of executives who were worried about losing three dollars 953 01:06:22,315 --> 01:06:24,795 Speaker 1: who have lost already all sense that they're not laying 954 01:06:24,915 --> 01:06:27,955 Speaker 1: cable anymore for a living. But they are handling journalism 955 01:06:27,995 --> 01:06:31,155 Speaker 1: in a time when democracy is under threat and journalism 956 01:06:31,195 --> 01:06:33,715 Speaker 1: is one of the last weapons we have to protect it, 957 01:06:33,835 --> 01:06:37,515 Speaker 1: including their ability to make money off of it, including 958 01:06:37,555 --> 01:06:41,715 Speaker 1: their ability to make money without tithing Donald Trump, including 959 01:06:41,795 --> 01:06:44,435 Speaker 1: their freedoms, not just the freedoms of the people out 960 01:06:44,475 --> 01:06:48,715 Speaker 1: on the front lines. Dowd later explained what happened that day, 961 01:06:48,835 --> 01:06:52,275 Speaker 1: quoting him, the right wing media mob ginned up, went 962 01:06:52,315 --> 01:06:55,955 Speaker 1: after me on a plethora of platforms, and MSNBC reacted 963 01:06:55,995 --> 01:06:59,355 Speaker 1: to that mob, even though most at MSNBC knew my 964 01:06:59,395 --> 01:07:02,995 Speaker 1: words were being misconstrued, the timing of my words forgotten. 965 01:07:03,075 --> 01:07:05,595 Speaker 1: Remember I said this for anyone knew was a target, 966 01:07:05,995 --> 01:07:08,875 Speaker 1: and then I apologized for any miscommunication on my part. 967 01:07:09,115 --> 01:07:14,155 Speaker 1: I was terminated by the end of the day. Ordinarily 968 01:07:14,235 --> 01:07:16,435 Speaker 1: I would make a big deal about the irony. Here 969 01:07:16,475 --> 01:07:18,915 Speaker 1: a former member of what twenty years ago we thought 970 01:07:19,115 --> 01:07:22,675 Speaker 1: was the worst right wing media mob imaginable being taken 971 01:07:22,755 --> 01:07:26,635 Speaker 1: down by what turns out to be truly the worst 972 01:07:26,715 --> 01:07:31,755 Speaker 1: right wing media mob imaginable, including agents inside MSNBC's own house, 973 01:07:31,875 --> 01:07:34,435 Speaker 1: like Joe Scarborough and his wife, the one who used 974 01:07:34,475 --> 01:07:37,355 Speaker 1: to be somebody else's wife. But my point here is, 975 01:07:37,395 --> 01:07:41,875 Speaker 1: once again, MSNBC still makes a lot of money, and 976 01:07:41,915 --> 01:07:45,235 Speaker 1: its primetime stars make lots of money, and they've all 977 01:07:45,275 --> 01:07:47,955 Speaker 1: been on their jobs since their shows were spun off 978 01:07:47,995 --> 01:07:50,995 Speaker 1: from mine. And the most recent of those spin offs 979 01:07:51,155 --> 01:07:55,835 Speaker 1: was Hayes. And now that's like fourteen years ago. And 980 01:07:55,875 --> 01:07:57,875 Speaker 1: I have to tell you this simply as somebody who 981 01:07:57,915 --> 01:08:02,635 Speaker 1: stopped making that kind of money thirteen years ago. If 982 01:08:02,755 --> 01:08:07,155 Speaker 1: Madow and O'Donnell and hay do not now have enough 983 01:08:07,275 --> 01:08:11,235 Speaker 1: money by now to cover them and the next six 984 01:08:11,355 --> 01:08:13,795 Speaker 1: or seven generations of their families for the rest of 985 01:08:13,835 --> 01:08:19,795 Speaker 1: their lives, they have really left up so exactly, why 986 01:08:19,835 --> 01:08:25,675 Speaker 1: would they not say something anything about Matt Dowd being 987 01:08:25,755 --> 01:08:30,355 Speaker 1: thrown overboard when he was right, But even if he 988 01:08:30,435 --> 01:08:32,155 Speaker 1: wasn't right or could have been better timed, even if 989 01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:34,995 Speaker 1: the new MSNBC is supposed to be about dialogue at worst, 990 01:08:34,955 --> 01:08:39,115 Speaker 1: they should have suspended him if that much. Why haven't 991 01:08:39,155 --> 01:08:43,075 Speaker 1: they said anything about this? Why haven't they defended the 992 01:08:43,075 --> 01:08:45,675 Speaker 1: freedom of speech they are now complaining the far right 993 01:08:45,795 --> 01:08:49,435 Speaker 1: is trying to cancel. We are living in a time 994 01:08:49,515 --> 01:08:52,035 Speaker 1: in which there is a president who says he is 995 01:08:52,115 --> 01:08:58,515 Speaker 1: going to stop free speech because of Charlie Kirk. He 996 01:08:58,595 --> 01:09:00,195 Speaker 1: is going to stop it. He is going to use 997 01:09:00,235 --> 01:09:04,315 Speaker 1: the weapons of government against you and me and Rachel 998 01:09:04,315 --> 01:09:07,795 Speaker 1: Maddow and MSNBC and Chris Hayes and O'Donnell and the 999 01:09:07,835 --> 01:09:10,235 Speaker 1: place that O'Donnell and Hayes and Mattow and the rest 1000 01:09:10,235 --> 01:09:16,275 Speaker 1: of them, the place they work obeys in advance. In fact, 1001 01:09:16,475 --> 01:09:23,035 Speaker 1: MSNBC was the first place, the first place to punish 1002 01:09:23,075 --> 01:09:28,995 Speaker 1: an employee for not being sufficiently phony about the death 1003 01:09:28,995 --> 01:09:35,115 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk, the first By Friday, it had turned out, 1004 01:09:35,155 --> 01:09:37,155 Speaker 1: of course that in the black and white world that 1005 01:09:37,195 --> 01:09:40,635 Speaker 1: scumbags like Brian Roberts and Mike Kavanaugh and Mark Lazarus 1006 01:09:40,675 --> 01:09:44,395 Speaker 1: live in, that Kirk had been shot, if not directly 1007 01:09:44,435 --> 01:09:47,675 Speaker 1: by his own side, then certainly under the influence of 1008 01:09:47,715 --> 01:09:50,355 Speaker 1: somebody who was under the influence of their own side. 1009 01:09:50,995 --> 01:09:57,635 Speaker 1: And MSNBC helped legitimize the entire clamp down on criticism 1010 01:09:57,675 --> 01:10:02,475 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk by firing Matt Dowd, and Mattow and 1011 01:10:02,515 --> 01:10:08,075 Speaker 1: Hayes and O'Donnell helped legitimize out's firing by their cowardice. 1012 01:10:08,195 --> 01:10:12,475 Speaker 1: Rachel Meadow is a coward. Chris Hayes is a coward. 1013 01:10:12,995 --> 01:10:17,475 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell is in fact two or three cowards. Their 1014 01:10:17,675 --> 01:10:22,475 Speaker 1: cowardice in not speaking up in some way, shape or form. 1015 01:10:22,795 --> 01:10:26,955 Speaker 1: Because what would Rachel Meadow do without another twenty five 1016 01:10:27,035 --> 01:10:31,755 Speaker 1: million dollars this year? I used to look for opportunities 1017 01:10:31,795 --> 01:10:36,355 Speaker 1: to reveal management hypocrisy or malpractice. I used to look 1018 01:10:36,555 --> 01:10:41,555 Speaker 1: at ESPN, at KCBS in La, at my college radio station. 1019 01:10:41,675 --> 01:10:45,035 Speaker 1: I used to look for executives who really screwed up, 1020 01:10:45,115 --> 01:10:47,595 Speaker 1: or who really were doing bad things. I like to 1021 01:10:47,635 --> 01:10:50,395 Speaker 1: try to humiliate them in some way, or at least 1022 01:10:50,795 --> 01:10:53,155 Speaker 1: let people know what they were doing. He used to 1023 01:10:53,195 --> 01:10:57,435 Speaker 1: look for this. It's a dangerous hobby, but one I 1024 01:10:57,515 --> 01:11:02,235 Speaker 1: thought was part of my duty my career. I was 1025 01:11:02,235 --> 01:11:06,195 Speaker 1: paid back with a reputation as a troublemaker. You bet 1026 01:11:06,235 --> 01:11:12,475 Speaker 1: your ass, I'm a troublemaker. Rachel Maddow a fake troublemaker. 1027 01:11:13,315 --> 01:11:18,035 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes, who once refused to go on Countdown as 1028 01:11:18,035 --> 01:11:23,195 Speaker 1: the host because MSNBC had breached my contract by suspending me. 1029 01:11:23,275 --> 01:11:26,235 Speaker 1: They asked him to anchor in my place, and he went, no, 1030 01:11:26,355 --> 01:11:29,235 Speaker 1: you're wrong, I'm not going to do it, and he 1031 01:11:29,395 --> 01:11:32,955 Speaker 1: was making I don't know fifty thousand dollars a year 1032 01:11:32,995 --> 01:11:35,755 Speaker 1: from MSNBC at that point, if that much, and risked 1033 01:11:35,795 --> 01:11:38,155 Speaker 1: all of it and everything he could ever possibly make, 1034 01:11:38,155 --> 01:11:40,835 Speaker 1: including all the money he has made. He risked all that. 1035 01:11:40,995 --> 01:11:47,115 Speaker 1: Then he wouldn't risk something now And then O'Donnell well, 1036 01:11:47,235 --> 01:11:49,035 Speaker 1: and he was a fake in twenty eleven. He's a 1037 01:11:49,035 --> 01:11:55,475 Speaker 1: fake today. Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Laurence O'Donnell silent as 1038 01:11:55,515 --> 01:11:59,795 Speaker 1: they were when MSNBC fired Mehdi Hassan, and when MSNBC 1039 01:11:59,915 --> 01:12:04,235 Speaker 1: fired Joy Read, and when MSNBC fired Katie Fang, and 1040 01:12:04,275 --> 01:12:07,995 Speaker 1: when m SNBC fired Melissa Harris Perry, and when MSNBC 1041 01:12:08,155 --> 01:12:11,915 Speaker 1: fired Tiffany Cross. Oh, and when MSNBC fired all of 1042 01:12:12,035 --> 01:12:18,395 Speaker 1: Rachel meadows staff silent Now sure why not? I mean 1043 01:12:18,675 --> 01:12:24,275 Speaker 1: they still get their money, right, Today's other worst persons 1044 01:12:25,435 --> 01:13:04,515 Speaker 1: in the world. I've done all the damage I can 1045 01:13:04,515 --> 01:13:06,795 Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Most of our Countdown 1046 01:13:06,875 --> 01:13:10,115 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced and performed by Brian Range, John 1047 01:13:10,115 --> 01:13:13,675 Speaker 1: Phillip Schaneil. Our musical directors of Countdown was produced by 1048 01:13:13,715 --> 01:13:17,195 Speaker 1: Tko Brothers. Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums. 1049 01:13:17,195 --> 01:13:21,195 Speaker 1: Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Our satirical and pithy 1050 01:13:21,275 --> 01:13:24,035 Speaker 1: musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, 1051 01:13:24,115 --> 01:13:27,755 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The Old Woman theme from ESPN two, written 1052 01:13:27,795 --> 01:13:31,195 Speaker 1: by Mitch Warren Davis, courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Is our 1053 01:13:31,315 --> 01:13:35,075 Speaker 1: sports music. Other music arranged and performed by the group 1054 01:13:35,115 --> 01:13:38,595 Speaker 1: No Horns Allowed. My announcer today was my friend Larry David. 1055 01:13:39,035 --> 01:13:43,955 Speaker 1: Everything else was, as always my fault. That's countdown for today, 1056 01:13:44,035 --> 01:13:47,355 Speaker 1: Day two hundred and forty of America held hostage, just 1057 01:13:48,035 --> 01:13:50,795 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three days until the scheduled end 1058 01:13:50,835 --> 01:13:53,075 Speaker 1: of his lame duck and lame brain term unless he 1059 01:13:53,115 --> 01:13:58,755 Speaker 1: is removed sooner by Maga, Jeffrey Epstein, or the pavement 1060 01:13:58,835 --> 01:14:03,595 Speaker 1: on his hand, or hey, anybody notice he's been silent 1061 01:14:03,635 --> 01:14:08,515 Speaker 1: again recently. The next scheduled countdown is Thursday. Until then, 1062 01:14:08,635 --> 01:14:12,835 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 1063 01:14:13,715 --> 01:14:40,075 Speaker 1: wait for it, good luck. Countdown with Keith Olberman is 1064 01:14:40,075 --> 01:14:44,875 Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit 1065 01:14:44,915 --> 01:14:49,835 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts,