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Speaker 1: No excuses, not after that game. Welcome Bird Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Paul calBC joins me, we know what happened,

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Speaker 1: but why did it happen? Why were the Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: the words of head coach Jonathan Gannon humbled on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Puda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 3: He's it again.

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Speaker 4: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: So I tried, and I tried hard, Paul, to figure

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Speaker 1: out some creative way, some topics in which we could discuss,

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Speaker 1: to kind of delay what happened on Sunday. But look,

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Speaker 1: you can't delay the inevitable. We have to discuss Sunday

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately for you, you were on the field to watch

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Speaker 1: that forty two to fourteen the Cardinals lose the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I mean gyuess. We could talk about our matters. I

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Speaker 1: could bring up the weather, but that's not good because

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Speaker 1: we keep setting records day after day after day. There's

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Speaker 1: no end in sight. And by the way, tomorrow is

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Speaker 1: the first day of October. Let that sink in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we could talk about, you know, the

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Speaker 4: on Saturdays. For some reason, the University of California actually

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Speaker 4: turned down game day like ten years ago. That's still

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Speaker 4: an all time no Comprendo don't know why. We could

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Speaker 4: talk about yours truly taking a day on Saturday and

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Speaker 4: deciding to drive a sixty year old car with no

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen just for cool air. That's how how

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Speaker 4: it was inside the car. But none of that gets

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Speaker 4: us past the fact that yes, Cardinals have a win

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Speaker 4: by a forty burger at home, and now they have

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Speaker 4: a loss. And I'll just say this, Cardinals weren't going

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Speaker 4: to the super Bowl after they beat LA beat them down,

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Speaker 4: and the season isn't over after you lose at home

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Speaker 4: to Washington. But it is a similar vibe to the

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Speaker 4: do you do? He went out and won a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: So that Washington team I think is legit, especially an offense.

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Speaker 4: Not to say we weren't all surprised by certain aspects

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Speaker 4: no doubt after watching that jayde Daniels real deal.

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Speaker 1: Remember that game a year ago, Cardinals picked off CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud three times and it was his worst game of

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Speaker 1: the season, yet they won. And here on Sunday, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: get a pick Garrett Williams with the first takeaway of

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Speaker 1: the season for a team facing the Washington Commanders. Their

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Speaker 1: first giveaway, yet the Cardinals not able to take advantage

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Speaker 1: Through four games, the Cardinals are one in three, and

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Speaker 1: based off the gauntlet that this team face going into

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Speaker 1: that is not sitting well with the coaches, the players,

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is what's bothered a lot of

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Speaker 1: And for the Cardinals defensively, nine of twelve the Commander's

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Speaker 4: So in that situation, okay, there's one of three options.

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Speaker 4: there is that moment of hesitation for a rusher, and

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Speaker 1: Cardinals get on the board first, and then the Commander's

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Paul, he looked very comfortable, very confident,

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Speaker 1: Yet from the Cardinals perspective, it's like, how do you

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Speaker 4: Jane Daniels is seeing the field better. He's driving the

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Speaker 4: Because that really was the game in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: And I'm willing to guess that Daniels had more time

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Speaker 4: And that was one of the quotes that I underlined

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Speaker 4: He does, And then he was asked about Jane Daniels

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Speaker 4: and he said, well, there's what everyone can see, the

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Speaker 1: If the concept of that cage concept that Rob Fredericks

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Speaker 4: this is Jaden Daniels wrecking this league. The old Johnny

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Speaker 1: The hope is what we talked about after the Bill's

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Speaker 4: And there aren't many guys, if any, who get more

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Speaker 4: That is a viable explanation. It's not necessarily about your football.

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Speaker 3: Really high?

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Speaker 5: I catch them the drugs a lot. Yeah, I got

438
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Speaker 5: one at my house, so you know, me and my

439
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 5: dad would be on it a lot. So I feel

440
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Speaker 5: really confident. And that's why when I seen the ball,

441
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Speaker 5: I felt comfortable just going and getting it.

442
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Speaker 4: How about in third down? Obviously any game third down

443
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 4: is a big deal. They went nine to twelve. What

444
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Speaker 4: made that a challenge today?

445
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think again, I think it goes to obviously

446
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 5: the quarterback being very efficient, but their play calling highlight

447
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: and their guys really well, because even coming into this game,

448
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Speaker 5: they'd been really they've done really well and third down

449
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Speaker 5: just in the season in general, even the games that

450
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Speaker 5: they didn't win. So you know, I think I think

451
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Speaker 5: they just did a good job and I think just

452
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Speaker 5: as a defense, we got to just answer the bell better.

453
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Speaker 5: You know, keep it as simple as that. We didn't

454
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Speaker 5: play nearly to our expectation, and you know, we got

455
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Speaker 5: to be better. It's not really much more to talk

456
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Speaker 5: about than that.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hear him, stay right there. As a defense, we

458
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Speaker 1: just got to answer the bell better to be better.

459
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Speaker 1: And that might be part of that speech, the words

460
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Speaker 1: from Kaizer wide and just the overall mood of a

461
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: defense as a whole that just got forty two points

462
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: put on them. The question is, now, what does that

463
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Speaker 1: mean schematically? What does that mean personnel wise? Who knows?

464
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Speaker 1: But through four games we go back to the run

465
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Speaker 1: game or the passing attack that something needs to change,

466
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Speaker 1: whether that's at the line of scrimmage or on the

467
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Speaker 1: back end.

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Speaker 4: So when JG says, quote, we can't look like that

469
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Speaker 4: after the game, right, didn't give ourselves a chance to

470
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Speaker 4: win the game. I mean that could be a lot

471
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Speaker 4: of different things. When he goes on to say, you

472
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Speaker 4: know what, some adjustments have to be made or does

473
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Speaker 4: that schematically to stop the run?

474
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Speaker 3: Is that loading the box? Maybe?

475
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Speaker 4: Is that personnel different guys getting different amounts of snaps

476
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Speaker 4: in different positions. Is that addressing the back end, I'll

477
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Speaker 4: say this much Garrett Williams even as more upside. I mean,

478
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Speaker 4: he's a player and he thinks the game at a

479
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Speaker 4: different level. We had him in a big red rage

480
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: last year and it was after his debut against Seattle,

481
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Speaker 4: and he was already saying how bored he was with

482
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Speaker 4: the college game because the NFL is so superior in

483
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: terms of the x's and the o's, and he just

484
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Speaker 4: enjoys it more because it's more of a thinking man's game.

485
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Speaker 4: Thinking about this out loud, and I couldn't be speculating

486
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Speaker 4: more than I am. Right now, do you move Garrett

487
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Speaker 4: Williams to an outside corner position? Sean Murphy bunting? And

488
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Speaker 4: or seems like Starling Thomas has been targeted quite a bit.

489
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Speaker 4: Are your two outside corners now, Max Melton, Garrett Williams

490
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Speaker 4: and the absence of Garrett Williams inside.

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Speaker 3: You bring in Rabbit?

492
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Speaker 4: Does Rabbit get more playing time instead of Jalen Thompson.

493
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm just throwing things out there because I

494
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Speaker 4: will say this Craig and correct me if I'm wrong.

495
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Speaker 4: At certain flex points of last year, Cardinals made moves, released,

496
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Speaker 4: certain players made moves on the depth chart, and it

497
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Speaker 4: got everyone's attention. There is one surefire way to motor

498
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: and all the pro sports, doesn't matter what the league is.

499
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: Everybody now two words job security. So there will be

500
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Speaker 4: blood coming off a game like that. There will be changes.

501
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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing a few out there to you know

502
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Speaker 4: what you're talking about in that secondary and then if

503
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Speaker 4: you are able and you're gonna take the risk of

504
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Speaker 4: single covering a lot of guys, then maybe that does

505
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Speaker 4: give you the ability to load the box up a

506
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Speaker 4: little bit more.

507
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Speaker 1: Looking at the snap counts from Sunday, Max Melton played

508
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Speaker 1: twenty one snaps, the third highest behind Garrett Williams and

509
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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy. Bunting Rabbit was only on the field for

510
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Speaker 1: two defensive snaps. It's been a struggle for him to

511
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Speaker 1: find playing time when you're behind Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson.

512
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Speaker 1: So again to your point, playing time, Yeah, what changes

513
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Speaker 1: defensively now? On the flip side, Kyler Murray post game,

514
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Speaker 1: something's got to change. That wasn't the brand of football

515
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Speaker 1: we want to play, specifically offensively this Cardinals team, Paul,

516
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. They can do no

517
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Speaker 1: wrong in the first quarter. They can do no wrong

518
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Speaker 1: on that opening possession. In each game they have scored

519
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Speaker 1: a touchdown on their first drive of the contest. Four

520
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and four opening possessions. The problem is in the

521
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Speaker 1: second half. They have three total offensive touchdowns in the

522
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Speaker 1: second half of games. Wow, two James Connor touchdowns, a

523
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Speaker 1: Train McBride fumble recovery. The other touchdown scored in the

524
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Speaker 1: second half DJ Dallas kickoff return. That's not an offensive score.

525
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Speaker 1: So really two offensive plays and then some dumb luck

526
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Speaker 1: James Connor fumbles the ball into the end zone and

527
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: Tram McBride falls on it. Kyl the Murray is not

528
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Speaker 1: thrown a second half touchdown this season.

529
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Speaker 4: And that is remarkable, It really is. Obviously, you know,

530
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Speaker 4: teams adjust over the course of a game, so it's

531
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Speaker 4: testimony to the game planning of and Drew Petsen and

532
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Speaker 4: the play calling right out of the gate. And you're

533
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Speaker 4: scoring on an opening drive touchdown. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury

534
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Speaker 4: is on their sideline. Is final year as head coach

535
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Speaker 4: of the Cardinals. They didn't score an opening drive touchdown

536
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Speaker 4: until Week nine against Seattle. We all remember that because

537
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Speaker 4: we talked to about it ad nauseum, so kudos on

538
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: that front. Now, what are defenses doing to evolve and

539
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Speaker 4: or adjust over the course of the game. I will

540
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Speaker 4: say one of the aspects of the game that I

541
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Speaker 4: was probably most surprised about was through three games, receivers

542
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: had field days against that Washington pass defense. The league

543
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Speaker 4: neighbors had ten for one to twenty seven in a

544
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Speaker 4: touchdown for the Giants Tomorrow, Chase on Monday Night six

545
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Speaker 4: for one, eighteen and two touchdowns Against Tampa, Evans and

546
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Speaker 4: Godwin combined for thirteen catches, one hundred and forty four

547
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Speaker 4: yards receiving and three touchdowns. So as of right now,

548
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 4: there's certainly more upside and production to be had out

549
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Speaker 4: of your receiver crew. There's been different guys at different times,

550
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Speaker 4: but it hasn't been consistent, not even week to week,

551
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Speaker 4: but quarter to quarter. You know, there were two plus

552
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: quarters Marvin Rrison Junior didn't get a target right that

553
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: went quiet, So you can see where especially after the

554
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Speaker 4: opening drive touchdown catch by Marvin Harrison, I'm guessing Washington

555
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Speaker 4: with a lot of other teams do gave him extra attention.

556
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make you know.

557
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Speaker 4: Those defenses pay Zay Jones when he comes back after

558
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: week five, presuming that's still the case, that you know,

559
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: might be a boost a benefit. How much did this

560
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: passing game suffer minus Trey mcplay. That's a legitimate question.

561
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Speaker 4: But uh yeah, when Kyler's saying, you know, something's got

562
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Speaker 4: to change, I'm wondering, that's just us speculating, filling in

563
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: the blank. That might be someone. What he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: Is it play calling, is it play execution? And it's

565
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Speaker 1: easy to point to the play call, but if the

566
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Speaker 1: play call is successful, then it's a great call. If

567
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: it's not successful, then what are you calling that particular play.

568
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: The other thing about the wide receivers. When Marvin Harrison juniors,

569
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Speaker 1: you're leading pass catcher with five catches for forty five

570
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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. That's not good enough from this

571
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Speaker 1: wide receiver crew. The run game, though, I was impressed with,

572
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Speaker 1: and something that petsing Stick stayed with, especially in the

573
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Speaker 1: second half, something passionate Wolf talked about going into the

574
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Speaker 1: second half with Wolf saying, no, we need to throw

575
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Speaker 1: the ball. At that point you're down seventeen seven, twenty

576
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Speaker 1: four to seven, and Dave's like no, you've got I

577
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: believe it was after that Daniel's Donyard touchdowns. Like, we

578
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Speaker 1: basically still have an entire second half, and I fully

579
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Speaker 1: expected a lot of throwing. There was a lot of

580
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: James Connor running that football in the second half very successfully.

581
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Speaker 1: But you need some balance there and if the passing

582
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: game is not there, can you lean on the run

583
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: game when you're trailing by two to three scores. It's

584
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: darn near impossible.

585
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Speaker 3: To do it.

586
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Speaker 1: I'll give them credit because they did get Connor over

587
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: one hundred yards rushing third quarter, but need something out

588
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: of this passing game.

589
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So the two Cardinals touchdown drives where the two

590
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: drives where James Connor had a bunch of rushing yards.

591
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Correct more James Connor equals more touchdowns? Is there cause

592
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: and effect? Is that being too much of a simpleton.

593
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: But it's funny how the two drives that the Cardinals

594
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: reached the end zone with the two drives where James

595
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: Connor was a featured part of that drive and was

596
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: really effective running the ball between the tackles.

597
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: Nor South.

598
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Speaker 4: You know, there's one thing about this Cardinals offensive line.

599
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: They're really good in that pin and Poll game and

600
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: that Washington d line. I mean, they had given up

601
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: a lot of rushing yards even though they have a

602
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: huge pedigree and a lot of assets draft capital invested

603
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: in with first round picks and some big names in

604
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: there and some big dudes. They were susceptible and the

605
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: Cardinals made them pay. You know, the run game obviously

606
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: was a strength. At times you just wonder can it

607
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: be more consistent? And you know, once you got beyond

608
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: three scores, obviously it's difficult, but you got to go in.

609
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: Remember last time you played the forty nine ers, you

610
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: ran for more than two hundred yards against the number

611
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Speaker 4: one rank running defense in the NFL at the time

612
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Speaker 4: late last season. So hopefully that gives you a little

613
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Speaker 4: confidence going into Santa Clair this week, Week five.

614
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Speaker 1: Here are those numbers. James Connor on those two scoring drives,

615
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: thirty one yards rushing, forty five yards rushing added up.

616
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Speaker 1: That's seventy six yards. He had twenty eight yards on

617
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Speaker 1: the remaining six drives in which he played. He was

618
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: not on the field for that final drive. It was

619
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Speaker 1: a lot of Trey Benson trying to get him going.

620
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Speaker 1: But the offense between scoring drives twenty five plays for

621
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Speaker 1: fifty one yards, four first downs over five drives, and

622
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Speaker 1: that is something that's going cold, and you can't go

623
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: cold in the National Football League for that long. And again, yeah,

624
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback gets a boatload of the criticism, but it's

625
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna fall on QB one more times than not. And again,

626
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: going back to what he said postgame, something's got to change.

627
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: What is that?

628
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Speaker 1: Does he have to do more? We didn't see a

629
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Speaker 1: whole lock of a lot of Kyler Murray running the football.

630
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: He only had one carry, and again, was that by

631
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: design part of the game plan going in and they

632
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to adjust, But that was odd to see.

633
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Speaker 1: I know we don't like Kyler running a lot because

634
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: I think that's not what best suits the offense. Yet

635
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: you can't have him not a part of the game

636
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: plan at all as far as his legs are concerned.

637
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, his first and only carry was on the first drive,

638
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: I believe Kyler Murray, and it was for three yards.

639
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: You know who really enjoys Kyler Murray not running defensive coordinators.

640
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: So I get it.

641
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: And the whole premise behind the offense this year is

642
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: that Kyler doesn't have to play hero ball that Hey,

643
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: you know what, if everyone starts calling Kyler a game manager, good,

644
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: that means you have enough weapons. That means the ball's

645
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: coming out. That means you're finding the open guy. You're

646
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: keeping a defense honest. But let's not forget what really

647
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: does keep a defense honest at critical times is a

648
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: quarterback tucking it and running it. And you saw Jayden

649
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: Daniels do it. He was effective enough to be really

650
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: it really VECs the defense. And so guess what, you know,

651
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: if one of the adjustments is Kyler Murray some more

652
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: design runs by him, I know that's not necessarily his

653
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: choice and his preference. He really prefers when it's organic,

654
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: and he did that with great effectiveness against the Rams,

655
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: for example. But it was a Washington team that played

656
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: a lot of man cover, and so when those dbs

657
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: have their back turned to the quarterback, you know, you

658
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: would have thought, at least on paper going into the game,

659
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: there would have been a little more opportunity for Kyler

660
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: to make the defense pay with.

661
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: His legs and keep the offense on the field sustaining drives.

662
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: When you're four of eleven on third down and three

663
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: of the four conversions are all third and one. Just

664
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: got to get into more manageable situations on third down.

665
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: And the one big point in the game offensively that

666
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of conversation with on

667
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Cardinal talk was the fourth and one at the Washington

668
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: thirty five. The decision to go for there, you're trailing

669
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: fourteen to seven, bring in Matt Prater. Sure you kick

670
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: a field goal, you're still down. Basically you need a

671
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: touchdown to retake the lead. A field goal right there

672
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean much to me. Now again, it was a

673
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: pass play. Now was at a checkout of a run

674
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: play when you need fourth and one with James Connor

675
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: and Kyler drops back no one to throw it to

676
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: and he ends up getting sacked, stops the clock, change

677
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: of possession. Commanders take advantage with three timeouts twenty nine

678
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: seconds and they get a field goal going into the

679
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: locker room.

680
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: And that was a pass play out of shotgun, I believe.

681
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: So at that moment from the sideline, you know, I'm

682
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: not gonna lie, A little light bulb went off and said, wow,

683
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: that kind of looked like Cliff He's on the other sideline.

684
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: And that play, in that situation takes us back a

685
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: couple of years and look at least to hear defensive

686
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: players tell it. They welcome that when you're in the

687
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: gun because it eliminates all set of plays that potentially

688
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: could happen that they have to account for, that they

689
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: have to worry about, and it really narrows down the

690
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: realm of possibilities that they have to defend. And so, okay,

691
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: not to mention, we've seen Kyler under center and a

692
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: play action or a boot game and you get him

693
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: out on the move and he's either going to throw

694
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: to someone out of the backfield on a quick checkdown

695
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: and or if he realizes he has enough room he

696
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: can make a run for it. You know, you just

697
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: give him one of those plays with a with a

698
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: couple of options where he can pick it up either

699
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: via the pass or the run. In that case, it

700
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 4: was pretty much pass only, and you saw the result.

701
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Was again going back to what we're doing here in

702
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: that is speculation and trying to figure out the why

703
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and what happened on Sunday, We've kept bringing up Cliff

704
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Kingsbury on the other side of the field, and the

705
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: storyline going in was Cliff Kyler, Kyler, Cliff and Cliff

706
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: gets the better On Sunday, Kyler downplayed that storyline going

707
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: into the game. When the game starts and you're trailing

708
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: and you're seeing what happens and the next young, hotshot,

709
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback is doing what he's doing to Kyler

710
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: try to do too much in the past game to show, Yeah,

711
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: you had me do too much with my legs. I'm

712
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: gonna try to beat you with my arm again. I

713
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: have no idea.

714
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: That's applause.

715
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: We might not ever get an answer to this, but

716
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: it was what we saw offense defense on Sunday was

717
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: something that we had not seen at all from a

718
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon coached Cardinals team. It's one thing to get

719
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: beat but to get beat down like that is not

720
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: setting well for a lot of people.

721
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I'm really curious what the reaction

722
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: is in terms not only of the fight and coming

723
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: out and playing that brand of football that the Cardinals

724
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: have established right the whole book built football tough and

725
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: the physicality. But I am curious about adjustments because there

726
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 4: there has been a track record of not waiting around

727
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: for change but reacting to the moment, being realistic and

728
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 4: what needs to happen. You know, in terms of, you know,

729
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: the offensive line, how much of it was. You know,

730
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: a couple of times Kyler when they got the pass

731
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: rush got to him, you know, he pumped a couple

732
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: of times. Should that ball have been out. It's not

733
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: always on the offensive line. Maybe there was some indecision

734
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: right there. Maybe that Washington pressman cover was a little

735
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: more effective then you anticipated. But that's two opponents in

736
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: row that have got up right in the faces of

737
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: Cardinals receivers and have really played a physical sort of

738
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: coverage right from the get go. Now the line's mixed

739
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: in a little more zone because typically they go with

740
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: eighty five percent man. But you know, and that's the

741
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: other thing you've seen these you know, they've really this

742
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: pre post snap thing and changing and flipping and disguising

743
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 4: really well. And that's what a lot of guys said

744
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: about Washington is they do a pretty good job in disguising,

745
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: believe it or not, even though they had a really

746
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: low ranked pass defense. You know, you do have to

747
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: They do make you think and figure out and if

748
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: you have some receivers Craig who are still getting in

749
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: sync with a quarterback, just like it's not always on

750
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: the offensive line for a sack incompletions aren't always on

751
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: the quarterback. A lot of times there's read routes and

752
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: adjustments receivers are supposed to make and don't read the

753
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: coverage correctly, and so you never quite know. We just

754
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 4: know there's room for improvement.

755
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: And a better pocket for Kyler Murray certainly would help.

756
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: He was sacked four times, hit seven times. That's the

757
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: most he's been hit all season long. And this was

758
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: not a commander's front seven that struck fear in anyone

759
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: coming into this game. But how many times did we

760
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: see maybe some happy feet in that pocket and Kyler

761
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot something Patch mentioned a handful

762
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: of times on play by play, and you're throwing off

763
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: your back foot and all of a sudden that ball

764
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: is hanging in the air a little bit, and some

765
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: overthrows or some inaccuracies downfield. But again, is it the

766
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: offensive line with the pass protection, Is that the receiver's

767
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: not getting open and allowing those windows to develop for

768
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? No idea, but I'm sure there's enough blame

769
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to go around in every phase and aspect of the

770
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals.

771
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: Right now, here's what we know when the Cardinals offense

772
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: is really clicking. Like against the Rams, they completed all

773
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: five of their deep pass attempts in that game for

774
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: three touchdowns one hundred and fifty six yards. Then the

775
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: next week against the Lions, Kyler went just one of

776
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 4: seven and on those deep pass attempts, and then coming

777
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: into this game against Washington in this I would put

778
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: it into the category of most surprising watching those four quarters

779
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: was the fact that Washington had allowed the most passing

780
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: touchdowns nine coming into week four, and it allowed the

781
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: highest passer rating nearly one twenty eight. So that's I

782
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: think when the Cardinals go back and watch the film,

783
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: that's what they're probably trying to figure out. You got

784
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: to diagnose what's holding the passing game back in certain

785
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: games versus others, and then okay, what are you gonna

786
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: do against the forty nine ers team that does a

787
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: really good job of affecting the quarterback. You saw Nick

788
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: Bosa with a sack this last week and nine quarterback pressures.

789
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: Something's got to change again. Defense offense, you brought it up,

790
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Trey McBride. Does he play this week? Is he available

791
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: this week, do we see Darius Robinson have that practice

792
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: window opened up. He is eligible to be activated this week.

793
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: So is Christian Jones. Now those are two rookies that

794
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: again you can't put a lot of that on their shoulders.

795
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: But but you know what, if d rob is ready,

796
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it on his shoulders because based on

797
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: all we saw in.

798
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: The month August, he can handle it.

799
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: It was ten steps, but it was impressive.

800
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: There is no better news you could get right here,

801
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: right now than Darius Robinson cleared to practice. That would

802
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: be outstanding.

803
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: I have no idea if.

804
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: That's a possibility, but please, football gods, make that happen.

805
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: It would be a welcome sight. But again, that's asking

806
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: a lot of a young player coming in and say, hey,

807
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: we've got them all right, go play the forty nine ers.

808
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: Even though you don't have Christian McCaffery, you've got Jordan

809
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: Mason who continues to run the football despite his lack

810
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: of experience compared to CMC. And then Deebo Samuel and

811
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk and Trent Williams is back healthy. So yes,

812
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: this is this is a pretty stout forty nine Ers team.

813
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: And Jordan Mason runs hard. I mean he runs hard.

814
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: He will fight you for every single yard. And we

815
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: know Kyle Shannan in that run scheme. They can keep

816
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: a front seven really honest with all the motions, and

817
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 4: you think you know what's coming and Nope, something else,

818
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: and they'll come back to a certain personnel group in

819
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 4: a formation they showed you earlier. Here it comes again. Nope,

820
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 4: totally different even though it looks the same. So it's

821
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: like I said, what do you do this week? You

822
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: know this opponent really well after last year, and how

823
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 4: do you adjust coming off Week four?

824
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: We got to leave the Bird Gang with some good news,

825
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: some positive vibes, some positive energy Paul going into this week,

826
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: and that is San Francisco with the fact that the

827
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals are one to zero in the NFC West, so

828
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: they have that going for them, with the opportunity to

829
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: go to and oh but some positive energy. The Angry

830
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Bird Award needs to be handed out. I know it

831
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: might be a little difficult, maybe the hardest one you've

832
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: ever had to hand out here in the Jonathan Gannon era,

833
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: but it is something that we do here on Mondays

834
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: and we're asking for it again.

835
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 4: I mean most hilatious play or player. You could easily

836
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: go with Buddha Baker and his fourteen tackles, you go

837
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: at James Connor over one hundred yards rushing. But I'm

838
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: going to opt for the most hillatious play, which was

839
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 4: Garrett Williams, and in particular you might have heard there

840
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: in the interview earlier where we asked him, what was

841
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: your level of confidence when you knew you had to

842
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: try and pick that off with one hand? And he

843
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: just shrugged. He said, oh, absolutely, I had it all along,

844
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 4: he said, I've been working on the jugs for years.

845
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: That's a part of my routine. I trust my hands.

846
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: So I love the answer. I love the bravado, the confidence,

847
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: and the fact that I might be a dB, but

848
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: that's a name only I watched me make a one

849
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: handed pick, and that's exactly what he did. By the way,

850
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard the back end of

851
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 4: that conversation when you send it back upstairs to Passion Wolf,

852
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: because I know you've got to go on to the

853
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: next thing and you're scrambling to get your notes. But

854
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: it was a conversation about how how well spoken and

855
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: knowledgeable Garrett Williams was in that interview, and I believe

856
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 4: it was Dave Pass who brought it up because Wolf

857
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: made a comment. Pasch goes, well, he's a Syracuse guy.

858
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you expect, so leave it today,

859
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: Pass to bring it up before I was able to

860
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: bring it up. All yeah, well he is high IQ.

861
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: I'll give you guys that that was a heck of

862
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 4: a recruit Syracuse. You know, if only guys could recruited

863
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: twenty one other players like Garrett Williams, then you guys

864
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 4: might be somewhere where you're.

865
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: Not well or coming off a win over holy Cross.

866
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: So we do have that going fast. But game day

867
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: is not coming to the alma mater. It is going

868
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: you know what.

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Speaker 4: You know, we should have a fine system here on

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Speaker 4: Cardinals cover two like they do in the O line

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Speaker 4: and D line room. And when you flex a win

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Speaker 4: over holy Cross, you get fine.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I got to.

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Speaker 1: Flex because the coming off a loss to Stanford, as

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Speaker 1: I texted you, we lost to a tree the week before.

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Speaker 3: That was you know what it was?

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Speaker 4: When I watched that game a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: right of course, I was in the gym going around

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Speaker 4: the big weight and I'm looking up at the screen

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, Wow, nothing says college football like a

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Speaker 4: Friday night game between Stanford and Syracuse and the ACC.

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Speaker 4: Both have these ridiculous s's on the side of the helmets,

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Speaker 4: but Syracuse wins because Stanford has a stinking tree. I mean,

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Speaker 4: who has a tree as they're freaking I mean their symbol,

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Speaker 4: their mascot, their brand. So, uh, you know what, Syracuse,

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Speaker 4: I will give you this. It's not saying much, but

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Speaker 4: at least you're above and beyond Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they will always have that their first ever ACC

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Speaker 1: win on the road at Syracuse. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: avoided Michael Wilson all week. I was not getting it

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Speaker 1: his way at all. No, No, once again. Game day

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Speaker 1: coming to UH Berkeley, I know Cody Fincher wants to go.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can set them up. Oh hey,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be there the day and maybe flying the

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Speaker 1: day before Paul and kind of do a double shot.

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Speaker 4: I told Passion it's ESPN, you're gonna hook me up

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Speaker 4: for what's going on. And Dave just Heismen gave me

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Speaker 4: the heisman on that one. So that was disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and forty nine ers. That is the Week five matchup.

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Speaker 1: Much more on that game in the days to come

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Speaker 1: here as we try to put that Sunday performance well

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Speaker 1: in the rearview mirror. And on that note, we'll put

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Speaker 1: all it is on this edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hundai partner the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special

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Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer Jim A. Mahindro, our associate

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Speaker 1: producer Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvc, I'm Craig Real Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two