1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: are looking for. Anchor will distribute it all for you 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor dot 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: fm to get started. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: On this week's episode in her Space. I'm aligned with 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: my inevitable outcome, letting me know that this outcome that 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: I am manifesting, it's here, it's available to me, and 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: it's inevitable, and I'm aligned with that. Today's episode is 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, or even a 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: fresh perspective if you have any AHA moments. If you 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: feel comforted throughout the episode, Lady, please leave us a 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: review and tell us what we're doing right so we 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: can stay on track. Also, we release episodes every Friday, 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: so be sure to subscribe on iTunes and visit her 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Space podcast dot com and enter your email address to 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: get updates about our live events. And all the new 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: beginnings that we have for this year. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: Welcome to her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting women 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: like you. We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Broussard, a polege 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: professor and psychologist. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space where 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: black women can just be. 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: Hey, lady, it's doctor dom here from the Herspace podcast. 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 5: Do you have a burning question you're dying to get 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 5: feedback on? Do you want an unbiased perspective on a 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 5: situation you're facing. If so, visit Herspace podcast dot com 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 5: and click ask doctor dom under the start here option. 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: Every Tuesday, I'll choose a few questions and answer them 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: at random. 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: A quote of the day. 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Whatever you're thinking about is literally like planning a future event. 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: When you're worrying, you are planning. When you're appreciating, you 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: are planning. What are you planning? This quote comes to 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: us from Abraham Kicks. That question, what are you planning? 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm always planning. Yeah, what about you? 46 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: You know, let's just go for it, right, Yes, yes, when. 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: We talk about planning, her space is planning takes planning. 48 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Right here, we are middle of November of twenty twenty one. 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: This is not how I envisioned the middle of November 50 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty right two. Well, and it's kind of 51 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: like an offshoot of one literally two years ago, when 52 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: we were planning out and recording our first couple of 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: episodes for this podcast. This is not what I envisioned. 54 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: And when I say this, speaking of the podcast, what 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: do you think I'm referring to? 56 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh, when you say this, I'm just thinking, like the 57 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: state of the world where we're at, what our big 58 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: milestones are that we're going to share today. You just 59 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: gave me a whole list of things I'm thinking about 60 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: as you say that. What are you talking about? 61 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think it like the miblestones, right, like when 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I flashed back to those conversations, because when I literally 63 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: pause and flashback, I think back to like October November 64 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: December twenty eighteen, when we had made the decision that yes, 65 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: we are going to dive in and we are going 66 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: to start this podcast, you know we're going to figure 67 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: it out, and that we're going to figure it out 68 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: was kind of like, we don't know what the hell 69 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: we're doing. 70 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something, though, Dom, when you said 71 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: that I had this, I'm thinking about the topic we're 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: going to talk about today, right, and lady, let us 73 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: know if this resonates with you. What I thought about, Dom, 74 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: is that the Heirspace podcast, right, we're going to talk 75 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: about these milestones and these success metrics that we've hit. 76 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: But when I think about what we've done with this platform, 77 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: this brand, this global podcast, this is probably one of 78 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: the most impactful endeavors I've had in life to date. 79 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: And it's one of the I want to say, I'm 80 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to word this. If I 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: say it in a weird way and it doesn't make sense, 82 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: let me know. But it's one of the I want 83 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: to say, the paths of least resistance, if that makes sense. 84 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: So it's like it's been such a monumental thing in 85 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: my life, and I'm sure we get feedback from you, ladies. 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: So I'm going to say in the lives of others, 87 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: but although it took work, Okay, So let's just say this. 88 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: I've done had other endeavors and I've worked so hard 89 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: for them, Like I worked really hard. I had these 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: success metrics, and I was like trying to force what 91 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: I wanted. But I feel like this was such an 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: easeful I don't even know if ease for his word down, 93 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: you might have to let me know. It was such 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: an easeful journey. And what I mean by that is 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: we were so committed to our mission. Yeah, we wanted 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: to be successful, but we weren't saying like, oh, we 97 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: want to get a million, we want to do this, 98 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: we want to do that. It was just more so, 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: what is our mission? And I realized I never really 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: felt like there was something impossible. You know, sometimes we 101 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: have our own little situations which we're going to talk 102 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: about today, and you feel a little fearful, you feel like 103 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: you're doubting yourself. I feel like whenever we either of 104 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: us came up with an idea of what we're gonna do, 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: even though it was outside of our comfort zone, like 106 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: doing a live doing a live event, it was never 107 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: a question of oh, we can't do that. It was like, 108 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: all right, how are we going to do this? So 109 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: I feel like the energy we had in creating this 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: is really the epitome of the conversation we're gonna have today, 111 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. I felt like that was 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 2: so weirdly worded, but like, I hope you catch the vibe. 113 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense to me. And I think part 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: of why it makes perfect sense to me is because 115 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: we think really well, right, And I agree that this 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: has probably been one of the most seamless and I 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: say seamless in terms of, yes, we've hit like bumps 118 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: in the world in terms of trying to navigate getting 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: things done, but this process of putting our podcast together 120 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: has been Yeah, I see one of those times where 121 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I have experienced like the least amount of fear in 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: regards to like achieving something, right. I think part of 123 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: what it is is that in this particular journey, one, 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm sharing it with you, right, so one we're literally 125 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: like hand in hand co parenting this podcast, right, and 126 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: neither of us had podcasting experience coming into this. Now 127 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I will own that Terry, with you being a techie, 128 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: you have definitely taken the reins on the technical aspects 129 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: of making the podcast work. But I know that that's 130 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: why this partnership works so well, right because we compliment 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: each other and we are both bringing our strengths to 132 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: the table and both able to work well with one 133 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: another because we're also coming like from a place of love. 134 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I would agree with that. And 135 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: I think going back to what you said about one, 136 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: let me just say, Domn, you've come a long way 137 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: too as far as technology. Okay, I didn't see you 138 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: hind sees doing stuff, so I'm proud of you, girl. 139 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: But I will say, going back to what you said, 140 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: we talked about this in our first episode right where 141 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: we were like remember when we met one randomly kind 142 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: of like at a conference, and then we ended up 143 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: meeting up a couple months down the line, and we 144 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: were at that restaurant and we just had that really 145 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: good talk and it was just it's so crazy when 146 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: you look back on those moments and time and you 147 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: just think, like, Wow, who knew that we were I'm 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: going to use air quotes, I mean making history. I 149 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: don't know if we made a history yet, but like, 150 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: who knows, we were like making history at at that meeting, 151 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or like just creating this 152 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: thing that would just really catapult our lives and the 153 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: lives of the ladies to listen, And I just think 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: back to how we just had this one goal and 155 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: we were like, we want to do something for black women. 156 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: We don't know how we're going to do it, and 157 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: we were coming up with different ideas like, oh, we 158 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: could do this. I don't even remember. I probably have 159 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: it in a notebook somewhere, but I don't remember any 160 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 2: other ideas. I just remember us both leaving at the 161 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: end of that. We probably met for a couple hours 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: right at the end of that meeting, just like, Okay, 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: we're going to do a podcast. How are we going 164 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: to do it? 165 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 166 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: We're going to do research online, We're going to go 167 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: to Google. We don't know, but we're going to figure 168 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: it out. And the crazy thing about it is who 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: knew back then that we needed this so bad for 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: us and our community? Because when you think about how, 171 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, we're talking about twenty eighteen when we were 172 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: really like planning because we recorded episodes early and then 173 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: we had them scheduled for the twenty nineteen New Year 174 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: because we just wanted to make sure we had something 175 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: in the vault before we really just went out into 176 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: the world because we're so busy. And when you think 177 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: about some of the things I know that I experienced 178 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: personally in twenty nineteen, I was like the podcast was 179 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: so healing from me, Like I needed this place, right. 180 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: I think about twenty twenty, in the wild wild West 181 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, and how you when I think about 182 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: just off the top, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, all the 183 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: other black people that have been you know, impacted, murdered, 184 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: whatever it might have been. But having this space for 185 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: our community where we could promote hope and good vibes 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: and education and just this thing that we've created, right. 187 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: Who knew that we would have needed this, right exactly? 188 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I think about some of the things that like, yeah, 189 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this too later in the episode 190 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: of like some of the things that like I dealt 191 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: with in twenty nineteen and coming into twenty twenty, but 192 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: also just thinking about the plans that as we were 193 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: coming off of twenty nineteen, the plans that we had 194 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty, right right, the plans for the podcast 195 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: of like we would be hosting all of these live 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: events and we were planning to attend multiple festivals or conferences, right, 197 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: and then also thinking about having our own live like conference. 198 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: We had vision for all of these things, ways in 199 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: which we wanted to get our community together in person. 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: And twenty twenty said, no player, sorry, exist that ain't 201 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: for you this year, not today, not today. 202 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: Yes, but here we are. And can I just share 203 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: like our first big moth solf, Can I just drop that? 204 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: Do it, GoF it down, drive it, drop it lake aside. 205 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: Thank you ladies so much. 206 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: We have over one million unique downloads, one million, and 207 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: that is thanks. 208 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: To you, lady, and you and you and you and you. 209 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Guess when I think back, you know, because I think 210 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: part of this episode is also like us kind of 211 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: like just thinking about that process. 212 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Right. 213 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: When I think back again to those first few episodes 214 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: and when we were building up the podcast, I remember 215 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: thinking like okay, and not just thinking, but us having 216 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: a conversation of like, all right, well, we're not gonna 217 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: pay attention to the numbers, right, We're just gonna do it. 218 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: And clearly we look at numbers, right, we do. 219 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: We do. Don't let anybody tell you that they don't. 220 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: We do. 221 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: We don't let that stop us from doing the work. Though, right, Like, 222 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: we don't let that affect us in a negative way, 223 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: because if we would have let it affect us in 224 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: a negative way, Like literally, I remember our first couple 225 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: of episodes, like I was sharing with like friends and 226 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: family because I'm like, well, friends and family were gonna 227 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: get We're gonna get y'all to listen, and that's gonna 228 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: get us a few downloads here and there right within 229 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: that first month. I think we only I don't even 230 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: know if we had five hundred downloads for four episodes 231 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: in that first month. It was something small compared to 232 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: what we're doing now, right Like honestly, like now we're 233 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: at a place where we get like one hundred downloads 234 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: in a couple of hours. But literally that's what we 235 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: would have for one episode for the entire month. And 236 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: if we let that initial progress dictate how we would 237 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: move forward, Lady, you would not be listening to us 238 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: right now. 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: And I think it's important to also say, like as 240 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: a podcast, I don't know, lady, you may have a podcast, 241 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: maybe you don't like for us, the number that milestone 242 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: is important one because when you start a journey and 243 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: you don't know what you're doing, and you sort of 244 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: just like stumble upon a million downloads like one and 245 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: valid your work, right, like you let us know that, 246 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: and we said this before. You let us know that 247 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: we're in the right place, we're doing the right thing. 248 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: We also each have individual visions for our brand, and 249 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: this lets us know that we have something sustainable that 250 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: will allow us to continue to do stuff like this 251 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: in the world. And then we're also hitting this milestone 252 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: on our one hundredth episode, So really it's like acculmminations, 253 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: like everything coming together in addition to the big milestones. 254 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: So we're going to share our own lives. So as 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: we've been sort of pushing forward, watching the members just 256 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: to kind of see where we are, but not I 257 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: would say, not obsessing over them, right, And we're probably 258 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: moments where it was like, oh, we're looking. But then 259 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: I think we both kind of told each other at 260 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: certain points like it's hard, girl. We're going to be 261 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: here and record and release some episodes every Friday, regardless 262 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: of what we have, and so it's important to just 263 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: like kind of put your head down. I want you 264 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: to put your head down. You're not focused on I 265 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: gotta do this, I gotta get this number. I gotta 266 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: get this number. It just ends up happening, right, and 267 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: you just really just kind of attracted to yourself, right, 268 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: which is what we're going to talk about today. And 269 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: so as far as our personal milestones, when we first 270 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: started this podcast, there were two I want to say 271 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong, don I want to 272 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: say two personal struggles that each of us had. And 273 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: I remember literally like day one down we started the podcast, 274 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: and I remember having the conversation with you, like dom 275 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: one day, we're going to overcome our struggle and achieve 276 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: our goal and then we could do an episode about that, 277 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: and it was like, yeah, girl, that's what we're going 278 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: to do. And let me just tell you, lady, those 279 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: two goals that we were trying to accomplish, that should 280 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: ain't happen fast. It didn't happen to year one. 281 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: It's not. 282 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: And it's funny because we both hit our mouths on 283 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: around the same time, which is really que yeah you know, 284 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: and is that deep? Like we both hit all my 285 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: mouse around the same time, and it was just such 286 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: a huge moment and even after we hit it, we 287 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: were like, girl, we could to finally do that episode 288 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: almost two years later, right, so like sticking with the process. 289 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: So I think the conversation we really want to have today, right, 290 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: you see the title of the episode, right, we're talking 291 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: about the art of manifestation, but also like, how do 292 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: you keep hope alive when you are waiting for what 293 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: you desire? Right where you're trying to manifest your ideal 294 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: life or your dream or your income goal whatever it 295 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: might be, Like, how do you keep the hope alive? 296 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Because we both face so many struggles over the course 297 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: of this journey, right showing up every every Friday, releasing 298 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: episodes in the midst of things. So don I don't 299 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: know if you want to go first, if you want 300 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: me to go first, but I think we should each 301 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: definitely dive in and just talk about a struggle a 302 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: little bit. 303 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Yes, oo, child, let me tell you to We about 304 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: to hit lady, get comfortable, were about to hit testimony time, right, Yes, 305 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: we are. 306 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: I have some tears at the tissues ready. 307 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: Right, So. 308 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: For me starting the podcast. At the start of the podcast, 309 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know I said one of 310 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: my personal goals professional goals, was I needed to get licensed, right, Like, 311 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: that's if to continue practicing therapy. So that I'm not 312 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: under someone else's license, like I have to be independently licensed. 313 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: Right. 314 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: The first step in that process, outside of after you 315 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: get your degrees and you get your clinical hours, is 316 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: passing what's called the atripal Pea, and that is the 317 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: examination for the practice of professional psychology. Any psychologist across 318 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: the country has to take that exam personally. I've taken 319 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: that exam and failed it multiple times, multiple times, to 320 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: the point that I've lost track of how many times 321 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: I took it in didn't pass it right, So much 322 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: of my worth was tied into that exam. Logically, I 323 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: knew that my worth really was not tied to that exam, right, 324 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: that there are so many things that I can do 325 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: in life as a psycho collegists that doesn't require me 326 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: being licensed. That has been a professional goal of mine 327 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: from the very beginning. Failing the exam for me has 328 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: been like personal failure, like truly taking it personally right, 329 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: despite all the statistics that say so. At one point, 330 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: I was literally looking and in the state of California, 331 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the pass rate at certain points doesn't get above fifty percent. 332 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: Right. 333 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: There are articles out there about how many therapists of 334 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: color struggle with passing that exam, and so for me 335 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: there was like pieces like that that were validating, Right, 336 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: But again I still felt like this heaviness just sitting 337 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: on my shoulders of you need to pass this exam, 338 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: Like you have to pass this exam. You truly aren't 339 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: worth being a psychologist if you don't pass this exam. 340 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: There is just to me, like it's so unrealistic to 341 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: do that to yourself, right, And I say it's unrealistic 342 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: because again, there are so many things that I could 343 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: do with a doctorate in psychology. Right, I still am 344 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: able to practice under someone else's license. Having the actual 345 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: passing that particular exam is not a reflection of my 346 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: work as a therapist. Right, It's a milestone that the 347 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: governing board of Psychologists says, this is a milestone that 348 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: you need to pass in order to continue to. 349 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: Do this work. 350 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 351 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: So you know, I think one of the things, one 352 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: of the biggest less sings that I took away is 353 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: persistence because again because also there were multiple times where 354 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I gave up, like multiple times where I literally was like, yeah, 355 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm done, and then eventually I kept coming back. 356 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: Can I just say, really quick, gom I am so 357 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: proud of you because I know that you know, we've 358 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: talked about this on the on the podcast before, like 359 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: you trying to find a balance, like you how much 360 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: you share when you feel comfortable sharing, And I know 361 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: how important this has been for you, and so for 362 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: you to be so open and share the way that 363 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: you did, I think that is huge. You talked a 364 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: bit about your journey, but I remember you, like in 365 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: the midst of us recording you taking practice tests, you 366 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: taking tests, you taking your test, and that's checking in 367 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: about it and like that whole journey and back and forth. 368 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: And I know it's sometimes easier for us to see 369 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 2: something in someone else when you know when you're not 370 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: in the journey. But I remember always being like, like 371 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: you got this, like what you mean? They test, like you, 372 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: you got this? Like you what you mean? And so 373 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: we'd have those conversations. But I know that of course 374 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: in your industry, like in your field, that is something 375 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: that allows you to like go to the next level 376 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: and do other things in your field. But I think that, yeah, 377 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: that's I mean, you were persistent, and I know it 378 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: wasn't easy, and I just I guess I want to 379 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: know before we move forward, Like what kept you going? 380 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: Because you said you did give up a few times. 381 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: Do you think it was important for you to give 382 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: up and like take a break a few times, like 383 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: send to yourself and then what kept you on that path? 384 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: Because sometimes people are just like, oh, okay, I guess 385 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: it isn't for me. Let me just I'm going to 386 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: work under someone else for the rest of my career, 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: or it's hard to recover from that failure because it 388 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: hurts so bad ooh child. 389 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Yes, there were moments of it's hard to recover from 390 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: this failure and having to let myself breathe and take 391 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: that space, because preparing for that exam is intense. Lady, 392 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: if you know someone or have someone in your life 393 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: who is a licensed psychologist, who is any licensed mental 394 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: health professional, who is an attorney, who is a nerve 395 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: having a study for boards, like who is a medical doctor, 396 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: like folks who are having to take those like using 397 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: a general term like board exams, that takes a lot 398 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: of intense preparation and sacrifice. And so there were moments 399 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: where after doing all of that and I was like 400 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: where I was just like when I didn't pass, I'm 401 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: like fuck that, Like. 402 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: What was it for? 403 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: You know, like I made all these sacrifices, I did 404 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: all these things, only does still fail? 405 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: Like fuck that? 406 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: And the financial investment. I want to add that to 407 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: you because when you told me how much the test costs, 408 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: I was like, god damn. So it's not just like yeah, 409 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: I'll take the test every month, like you have to 410 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: wait a certain amount of time, I believe you told me. 411 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: And then you also have to pay on this money, 412 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: all these coins to take the test. 413 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: Right, yes, that examine ain't you child? 414 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Ain't and so and I think that's that was also 415 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: part of frustration too, is like it's a financial investment, right, 416 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: and so to not pass like it is excruciating, and 417 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: particularly in those times where I took it and was 418 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: so close, like literally less than ten questions away, like 419 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: you see it, and it's so that's so infuriating. 420 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: And but what I will say is that I will 421 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: give credit to. 422 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: You to my support systems, right like you you are 423 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: a big part of that support system, because my support 424 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: system was there who in staid like, okay, well what 425 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: do you need? Right, So, whether it was you saying okay, 426 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: let's put this on the calendar, we're going to record 427 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: around your schedule so that you can take so that 428 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: you can right, we know, like here's your upcoming exam date. 429 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to step up and do some of the 430 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: other tasks that you were doing so that you can focus. 431 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: Right. 432 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: But then also like I had a good friend who 433 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I was studying like these last couple of go rounds, 434 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: like we were studying together, and she said like, okay, 435 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: she came back around and was like, let's do this 436 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: again because after so like I took it again this 437 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: year and we'll talk about what happened that time, right. 438 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: And then but then last year December twenty nineteen, when 439 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: I took it and didn't pass, that was a bigger 440 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: moment of like, yeah, fuck this, I'm. 441 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: Done, and let me not only am I done, but 442 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: let me seriously look at what are alternatives for my 443 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: career path? 444 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: Right, And had been in that space for a long time. 445 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: And then. 446 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: A pandemic and it was like okay, And we talked 447 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: about this in a previous episode about us. 448 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Having to shelter in place allowed me the opportunity to 449 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: be still and showed me how I could take things 450 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: off of my plate. And so then what I did 451 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: was when my friend hit me up and was like, 452 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: all right, girl, we're gonna do this again. And I 453 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know this, this I don't. 454 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: Know and she really was like, let's you know, she said, 455 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: let's do this. 456 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: And so I said, all right, if we're gonna If 457 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I really will take full advantage 458 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: of working from home and doing the things that I 459 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: say that I encourage other people to do, and that's 460 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: to set boundaries and take things off of my plate 461 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and focus on positive. 462 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: Energy, yeah, and building up my confidence. 463 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: And so that really became the core of what helped 464 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: is the pandemic allowing me to see, yeah, no, it's 465 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: okay to say no one, it's okay to take all 466 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: this other stuff off of your plate. 467 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: It sounds like your perspective shift on seeing the silver lining, 468 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: And I think we talked about this in one of 469 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: the other episodes, seeing the silver lining in a time 470 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: that could be that was chaotic, right, and a time 471 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: that was just what the hell? So that's beautiful. Do 472 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: you have any updates for us on what happened on 473 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: the last. 474 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: Test, So, because you could probably tell by my voice 475 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: on the last go round, I passed. 476 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: I finally passed that thing. 477 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: Give it up for doamya. That's such a big deal. 478 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 2: I remember when you told me I think I sent 479 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: you a voice note. I was so excited for you. 480 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, DoD, we can now talk 481 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: about this other podcast. So exciting. So congratulations to you, Don. 482 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 3: That is just I know you were like poof, yes, yes, yes, 483 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: it's you know. 484 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: To be quite honest, it literally felt like a weight 485 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: was lifted, and my mind feels so much clearer. Yes, 486 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily makes like that, if 487 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: that makes sense and if people can really understand that feeling, 488 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: but my mind literally feels clearer. 489 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: It feels like I have more mental space. 490 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: For things that like that I've been doing, but I'm 491 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: doing them so much more clearly. 492 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Just the light, just the ease that I 493 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: feel now. 494 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: I love it. But I'm so excited for you. And 495 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: I know that, lady, you're probably at home shouting and 496 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: clapping for dime. Thank you, yes, and that again, this 497 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: is something we talked about on day one, like okay, 498 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this one day, right, And 499 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: so as far as my journey I've actually talked about 500 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: it on the podcast, so it isn't something particularly new 501 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: our community, because we've done an episode about my fertility 502 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: journey and about motherhood and all that. And so just 503 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 2: to kind of give you if you're new to the podcast, like, well, 504 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: what you're talking about, girl, I'm gonna tell you a 505 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: little bit about my journey. And so for me, I 506 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: have been I was trying to get pregnant my husband 507 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: and I for about two and a half years or so. 508 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about it is for me, this journey, 509 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: it's been very interesting and it's so layered because, you know, 510 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: because of the upbringing that I had, you know, having 511 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: a mom that was in and out of jail and 512 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: losing my dad. When I was in college, I became 513 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: a mom to my siblings. I was a mother figure 514 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: for them for a long time, and so raising my 515 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: four younger siblings, you know, doing everything from like registering 516 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: them for school, you know, giving them money, getting them 517 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: ready for prom and stuff like that. And for me, 518 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: when it came to fertility and like me going, I 519 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: did it. I'm gonna use air quotes the right way. 520 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: I don't believe in the right way, but I'm just saying, 521 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: and as far as you know, society're like, go to school, 522 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: do this, get married, and then have kids, right, And 523 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I did it. I kind of did 524 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: things that way because my siblings were I loved them 525 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: to pieces, but they were also the greatest birth control ever. 526 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: Growing up, I was like, Okay, we're not going to 527 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: have it in the kids doing that. I have my 528 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: own kids, right. They were like my four little kids, 529 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: and so for me, it was so mind boggling to 530 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: think that I didn't raised someone else's kids, right, was 531 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: my awe. I mean literally loved them like my own. 532 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: And now when I'm in a place where my husband 533 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: and I are trying to start a family, we have 534 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: what they call unexplained infertility. So for us, we tried 535 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: naturally for years and then finally it was at a 536 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: point where it's like, Okay, my biological clock is ticking, right, 537 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: I still feel young and all that, but I'm like, 538 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: you know, thirties knocking on the door, and so I'm like, 539 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: I the society says, you got to look into this. 540 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: So if this is important to us, I didn't want 541 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: to be, you know, a lot older when I had kids, 542 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: cause I envisioned having more than one child, and so 543 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: we began to look into fertility treatments and that was 544 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: like a whole other journey. So over the past couple 545 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 2: of years, going through six rounds of IUI, Lady, if 546 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: you're not familiar with IUI, definitely look that up. It's 547 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: not IVF, which is I want to say, the popular 548 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: I WANT that many people talk about, which is a 549 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: lot more expensive as well, But IUI is I want 550 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: to say, a less expensive option that basically sort of 551 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: gives you a boost in your pregnancy. And we did 552 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: an episode about this a couple of seasons ago, so 553 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: you have to look for that for more details. I 554 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: don't want to get too technical here, but I did 555 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: six rounds of AYUI and that included everything from sperm 556 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: samples and getting my fallopian tube fleshed out with all 557 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: part of the process to see there were any blockages, 558 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: administering shots in my tummy to help me ovulate, and 559 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: at this point I used to be very shy going 560 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: to the doctors, like when you know you have to 561 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: get past men and all that. At this point in 562 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: the journey, I'm like, open my leg, go ahead, do 563 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: what you gotta do because I've done it so much. 564 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: I go into this very uncomfortable process lady with like 565 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: a cat and putting stuff in me. It was just 566 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: a lot, okay, lots of hormones, all these things and 567 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: having a miscarriage in twenty nineteen and it was just 568 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: a rough ass journey out of tears. 569 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Let's I don't mean to cut you off, but I'm 570 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: curious about so. And we've talked about the miscarriage on 571 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: your previous episode, but I'm curious about because you and 572 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: I had private conversations, yeah, about what that was like, 573 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: if you don't mind sharing with our audience of like 574 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: what that was like to what we've talked about is 575 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: like putting in the work right and then to not 576 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: see your vision come to fruition when. 577 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: You say putting in the workdown, I do want to 578 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: paint a picture on like what that also looked like 579 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: by the way of like me doing my own work. 580 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: Because I talk about the fertility stuff, but I mean 581 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: I was, I did all the things. I was doing acupuncture, 582 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: I tried reiki, I was in therapy. I was like, okay, 583 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: let me diving to this inner child stuff that I 584 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: thought I had healed from. So I started going into, 585 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, deep things about my inner child and things 586 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: that I had experienced and healing that, processing additional things 587 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: with my relationship with my mom, which has been a 588 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: very tumultuous, tumultuous relationship but still isn't very clear or 589 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: resolve to date. Going through stuff with that also, I 590 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: mean just so much internal work. So what I did 591 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: down I did one thing that You've always recommended, is 592 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: like focus on what you can control. So it was 593 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: changing up my diet. I mean, I did all the things, 594 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: and even in the midst of doing all the things, 595 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: it felt like it still wasn't working. And on top 596 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: of that, my best friend was pregnant at the same 597 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: time I was pregnant when I had the miscarriage, right, yes, yeah, 598 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: I found that I was having a miscarriage. And after 599 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: I healed from that, I ended up going back home 600 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: to see her and her newborn, and I just wanted 601 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: that baby energy. I was like, I'm going to hold 602 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: your baby and love on your baby, and I'm going 603 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: to like, I'm literally manifesting my own baby by holding 604 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: your baby and visualizing. It was such a beautiful experience, 605 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: but we both had some very difficult conversations because it 606 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: was hard in the beginning when it was like, oh, 607 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: we're both pregnant together, and then it's like your pregnancy 608 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: is progressing and I'm finding out that I'm losing my baby. 609 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 2: That was that was hard. So I think as far 610 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: as keeping hope alive when you're trying to bring into fruition, 611 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: I had a lot of perspective shifts that I think 612 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: we're going to dive into next as far as manifestation. 613 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: So I think what kept me going down was this 614 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: vision that I have, Like I always envisioned myself. I 615 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: was one of those girly little girls. It's like, I'm 616 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: gonna have kids one day. I love children. 617 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: I have a. 618 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: Mother's instinct based on my upbringing and like I'm a mommy. 619 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: Like that's you know what I mean, Like that's that 620 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: is my identity and I love that. And so for me, 621 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, I'm not letting this go. We 622 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: done went through six rounds of value I, which are 623 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: very expensive, and I didn't done all this research on 624 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, just different ways that I can heal myself 625 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: and my body and all that. And so for me, 626 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: it was like Okay, we're going to keep on going. 627 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: And then our plan was to if we try to, 628 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I got a couple more around value. 629 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: I am if that doesn't work out, we were going 630 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: to move to IVF, which is the one that's like 631 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars, and we was going to figure out 632 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: how to get the money because insurance don't cover that 633 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: out here in CA. And we were going to move 634 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: forward because we really we envisioned, like we're parents, we 635 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: envisioned this and we're at the stage in life and 636 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: so for me, don this this last round that was 637 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: back and I want to say it was a few 638 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: months ago. I can't remember when at this point, but 639 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: this last round it's funny because it was around Vui 640 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: where they were saying that like things were kind of 641 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: looking a little low as far as like certain you 642 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: see certain things they needed to be at a certain level, 643 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: and it was a it was actually one of the 644 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: more painful experiences. And so after that I was like, okay, 645 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: I didn't tell anyone the news they shared with me. 646 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'm just going to 647 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: hold for the vision that I have and see what happens. 648 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: And I end up finding out that I am pregnant. Yay, yay, yay, 649 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: congratulations time and I'm passing the first time. 650 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: That's yeah, period. 651 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Baby is growing, the heartbeat is there, baby is just 652 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: moving all around. And so yes, twenty one our Hearst 653 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: Space podcast, baby is coming. 654 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Yes, I am so excited for you. And I think, 655 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that is like is important. 656 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: It's like that we mentioned earlier is that we have 657 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: been in such a big support for one another through 658 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: all of them, through our personal things that we were 659 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: going through. And to see that it came to truition 660 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: for both of us around the same time, to me, 661 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: that's bigger than just a coincidence. 662 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: Right. 663 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: And you know, one of my other phrases outside of 664 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: focus on what you can control, is trust the process, right. 665 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: And I think about the importance of the people you 666 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: have in your life and people being in your life 667 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: for certain parts of your journey, but maybe not all 668 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: of your journey. Yes, And you know, as we think 669 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: about like planning and manifesting, like we still truly have 670 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: no idea where this podcast is going, but I wholeheartedly 671 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: believe that we were meant to be on this journey together. 672 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Not just for the podcast, but for our individual growth. 673 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Dom, like you said when you were sharing, 674 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: like you have been such an instrumental part and my 675 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: journey as well with all the stuff behind the scenes 676 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: that be happening. And I'm like, girl, let me tell 677 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: you what had happened. Okay, So as far as you 678 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 2: sending the baby gifts, like right away, y'all? I done 679 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: told Dom one day, I was like, yeah, you know, yeah, 680 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: got the news sending her by baby bump pictures and 681 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: if you have not went to our instagram, go to 682 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: our instagram so you can see my baby bump. For yes, 683 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: it was a little while ago, but the Halloween costumes. 684 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: I dressed up a Nickumuen and you got to go 685 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: look at that stuff. So thank you for those that 686 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: have commented. But Dom literally the next day mailed the 687 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: baby some stuff and I was like, Domb, thank you, 688 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: this is so sweet. She's literally she was on it. 689 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: So yes, Dom, you in addition to that, you've just 690 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: been a great support. And when it comes to this 691 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: conversation around manifestation, I know for me personally, this has 692 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: been something that has been in my psyching on my 693 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: mind since I was like either in high school or college, 694 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: when I was introduced to the secret, right, many of 695 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: us have heard of the secret and the law of attraction. 696 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: That's when it was first of my radar, and I 697 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: was making vision boards and doing all these things, and like, oh, 698 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: I got to work really hard to make my vision 699 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: come to truition and a lot of the visions did come. 700 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: It took a lot of time. But I think my 701 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: perspective on manifestation is shifting drastically, especially when I think 702 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: about one, what we've done with the podcast, because we 703 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: were manifesting, we were manifesting stuff here, right. And then 704 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: I also think about this journey with motherhood and manifesting 705 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: my baby, and that has been it's so crazy because 706 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: it's been a whole process of like letting go. And 707 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: I guess the question would be, well, how do you 708 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: let go of something that you really want? That sounds counterintuitive, right, 709 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: but it's so, But it's not so when you hear manifestation, 710 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: dom what is your experience with that? What does it 711 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: mean to you? And let's just let's just. 712 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: Dive on in. 713 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: So for me, I am not as well versed in 714 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: manifestation right as a psychologist like what I'm versed in 715 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: is how to adjust your thinking, which I'm learning is 716 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: a part of manifesting, right, but not necessarily calling it 717 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: that from my perspective. And there may be some psychologists 718 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: out there that do focus a lot on manifestation and 719 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe use that language, But for me, it was more 720 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: about engaging in mindfulness, so being intentional about the things 721 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: that you are focusing on, the things, the. 722 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: Behaviors that you are engaging in. Right. 723 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: But I will say that this time around with this exam, 724 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: one of the things that had to shift for me 725 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: was my overall thinking. So and so for me, ad 726 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: meant I had to truly focus on being confident because 727 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot of when it comes to taking this this 728 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: particular exam, it requires a level of confidence because the 729 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: questions will If you are not confident, those questions will 730 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: trick you up. Like there are multiple times that I, 731 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: like in previous attempts on taking the exam, walking in there. 732 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: And after the first couple of questions, looking. 733 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: At it and like what the fuck, Like I'm not 734 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: going to pass this, Like this is too damn hard, 735 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: and that thought seeping into my my psyche, seeping into 736 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: my a level of consciousness causing me to second guess 737 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: things that I know that I knew right, and so 738 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: I think so for this time around, it truly was 739 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: about me focusing on being confident and being positive and 740 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: having to like set boundaries and say, right now, for 741 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: this time period, I can't hear anything negative because I 742 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: know how sensitive I am to it, and so paying 743 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: attention to really like cultivating in the space around me 744 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: what I needed now. I will also add that in 745 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: addition to having like a study partner, I had an 746 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: exam coach who I was meeting with on a weekly basis. 747 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: I had my therapist who I was meeting with to 748 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: address not necessarily exam related things, but things in my 749 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: personal life that may have been affecting my ability. 750 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 3: To focus on the exam. 751 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I also met with an executive coach, right so Pharah, 752 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: who we've had on the show in a previous episode, 753 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: like she and I were working together at the time 754 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: that she appeared on my show. And then again also 755 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: having a support system that was pouring into me, and 756 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: so I had and so one of the things that 757 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: I did was I created this poster and I have 758 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: my and it's still actually it's still hanging up. My 759 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: living space was covered in study chart paper, like covered 760 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: like you would have sworn. 761 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: That's how I chose to decorate. Like it was intense rightwhere. 762 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: But having to see those study charts was helpful. But 763 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: I also created a chart paper with my name at 764 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: the top. I have a positive phrase up there, and 765 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: then I have like three descriptors of like who I 766 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: am professionally, and then I also have licensed psychologists up 767 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: there and so for me and I have it in 768 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: my bedroom because that so then that's something that I 769 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: literally see every night before I close my eyes and 770 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: every morning when I first wake up. 771 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: Girl, you're talking about something you're not well versed in. 772 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 5: This. 773 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 2: This is manifestation. You're bringing something that's not tangible into 774 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 2: your life through your belief system and your thinking and mindfulness. 775 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: So I think it's sometimes the wording might be different, 776 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: but that is literally it and that is so powerful. 777 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: Don Like you talked about focusing on what you can control, 778 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: so you've got your army of advocates or your you know, 779 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 2: system of support around you. And then it goes back 780 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: to our quote, what were you planning? And you said 781 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: that you were planning in your mind when you went 782 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: to those other tests like oh, Dan, this question and 783 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: then you start focusing on something else, and what we 784 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: focus on grows right. And so I feel like, for me, 785 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to the manifestation aspect, I was one 786 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: being of a couple. Let's just dive right into it, 787 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 2: being of a cover in control free right. 788 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: I love how you say that recovery. 789 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: We're always recover recovering perfectionists, recovering control free because we're 790 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: we're in recovery right now, letting go of control and 791 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: stop forcing. And one thing my therapist said to me, 792 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 2: oh that I wasn't a fan of, but I was like, okay, 793 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: I guess this is true. She was saying, you know, 794 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: what is the end goal in this journey? 795 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 3: I was like, my healthy baby. 796 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: And then she said, okay, so it may you may 797 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: not get there the way that you envisioned, but the 798 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: goal is the goal. And for me, I was like, 799 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that shit because I wanted 800 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: my baby to be natural and this and that, and 801 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 2: so I had to really let go of what does 802 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 2: it look like, trust the process, let go of what 803 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 2: it looks like, and be open to how the universe 804 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 2: is trying to give it to me, because if you're 805 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 2: closed off, then we're closing off on the blessing. Because 806 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: now that I look at it, Dom and they say, 807 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: hindsight is twenty twenty, right, I look at it, and 808 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: I look at this past year and all the people 809 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: that I've been able to I want to say, minister 810 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: to and help as it relates to. And that was 811 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: never something I thought I'd have to struggle with in 812 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: my journey, but I've been able to talk about it 813 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 2: on the podcast, be very open and transparent about this journey. 814 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: And I remember at parts of the journey, I was 815 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: just like, I don't want to be God, Damn, I'm 816 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: the spokesperson for all kinds of other trauma and abuse, 817 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: and goddamn do I got to be a spokesperson for 818 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: this too. 819 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 3: But you know that may be mm hm who you 820 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 3: are in life, right. 821 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: That may be yeah, And that's what I embraced. I 822 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, well, if this is where 823 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: we are, let's go ahead and do it. So we 824 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: talked about it on the podcast, I did a few 825 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: other interviews, and then for me, the biggest shift that 826 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: I had this year, and this is like our tip 827 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: Number one, I guess you could say is begin to 828 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: feel how you feel when you manifest what you want, 829 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: so kind of moving into the future and feeling the 830 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: feelings in advance. And so I have a mantra that 831 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 2: I'm working on because I have something else I'm trying 832 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: to manifest. And this has been Even though you can 833 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 2: know the principles, sometimes in our mind we check ourselves 834 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: up and tell ourselves, oh, this is such a big 835 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: thing and the biggest relative, right. And so when we 836 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: tell ourselves, oh, this is a big thing, that's some 837 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: resistance right there. We're telling ourselves that it's big, it's 838 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: going to be hard when it's not the case, right, 839 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 2: because everything is available to us, and we live in 840 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 2: an abundant universe, so all the options are here. It's 841 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: just a matter of it has to start in the 842 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: spiritual realm, right, because what's above is below. And so 843 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: I think that for us. When you think about inventions, 844 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: who may the iPhone steed jobs? 845 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 5: Right? 846 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 2: I get him in Okay, I get me. 847 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, seed jobs. I mean, okay, technically technically there's a 848 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 3: little okay, but you that did it? 849 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 2: But right, But when someone comes up with an invention, 850 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 2: it starts seeing your mind first and then you have 851 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: to bring it to fruition. And so the mantra that 852 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: I am literally I read this every day. I started 853 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: this week. Dom My mantra is I am aligned with 854 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 2: my inevitable outcome. Because I'm aligned with my inevitable outcome, 855 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 2: letting me know that this outcome that I am manifesting, 856 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: it's here, it's available to me, and it's inevitable, and 857 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: I'm aligned with that. So one of the things that 858 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: I do when I read my full manchur in the 859 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: morning after I read it, I close my eyes and 860 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: I sit and I feel all of the feelings of 861 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,959 Speaker 2: having achieved it, and I sit with that feeling because 862 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: what we focus on growth. If I keep focusing on 863 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 2: I gotta work hard. I gotta go achieve it. I 864 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 2: gotta I gotta get pregnant, I gotta do this, I 865 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 2: gotta do that. What the universe is picking up on 866 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: is my resistance and the fact that I do not 867 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 2: have it. So what I started doing, in addition to 868 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 2: all the other personal work, I started taking spiritual bags. 869 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 2: And before I was even pregnant, I started talking to 870 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: my baby. I started baby wasn't even in my tummy. 871 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: I was talking to my baby. I was just like 872 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: thinking about man motherhod feels so great. I also a 873 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, we got an automan, and I 874 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: decided to get a soft automan that opens up. It's 875 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: not like a hard like coffee table for the living room. 876 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 3: Myself, like a long. 877 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: Baby is, you know, little, and the babies that climbing 878 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: around the living room, I don't want them to like 879 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: hurt themselves on the sharp edges. So sometimes when you're manifesting, 880 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: you look crazy. People will be like, girl with that 881 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: baby not here, but guess what, my baby is here 882 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: and it's on the way. Okay, a baby's on the 883 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: way right. 884 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that I. 885 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 2: Started buying little baby things here and there, like this 886 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: little thing that says take your shoes off when you 887 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 2: come in the house because we got a little won 888 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: or some stuff like that. But feeling the feeling of 889 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 2: having achieved it already. 890 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, domb, I'm with it, Like 891 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: I think about ways in which yeah, like, lady, as 892 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: you're listening, like, even if you haven't identified it as manifestation, 893 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are ways in which you have been 894 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: manifesting by engaging in the feelings and the behaviors, like 895 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: the acting as if that's what it's called acting as this, 896 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: So you are behaving as if this thing is already here, 897 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 1: this goal has already manifested. Yeah, And like you said, 898 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: when you by engaging in that behavior, what that does 899 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: is that seeps into your subconscious which will then as 900 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 1: influencing your thought process, but then it's also influencing your behavior. 901 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 3: Yes. 902 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 2: So honestly, I feel like tip number one would be 903 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: let go of control, and I feel like number two 904 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: would be act as if right. I feel number three 905 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: would be be patient, And like, what does it mean 906 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: to be patient? Well, I mean we've been very patient 907 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 2: on the ole. I mean I haven't been patient the 908 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: whole journey, but being patient, being patient, just realizing that 909 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 2: it's coming exactly when you need it. And dom I 910 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 2: think about you know something you said about the pandemic 911 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 2: and how to stay at home mandate. Yes, it has 912 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: been a tough year for many of us, and the 913 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 2: pandemic and the stay at home mandate. It slowed me 914 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: down a lot too, because I was going, I was hustling, 915 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: I was moving, I was on flights a couple times 916 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 2: every month. I mean, I was so busy and I 917 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 2: was moving, and I was doing that in the myths 918 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: of fertility treatments, like I remember having to change like 919 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: a flight, get a fertility treatment, and then fly to 920 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 2: New York for work, and it was just so busy. 921 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 2: And so I feel like being at home gave me 922 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: time to rest, to be still, like you said, and 923 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 2: it presented me with the best time I could ever 924 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: thought of, really to be pregnant, because morning sickness and 925 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: that first timester was so rough and I couldn't imagine 926 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: actually being in the office having to be there and 927 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 2: not being able to, you know, throw up in the 928 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: comfort of my own home or type naps throughout the 929 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 2: day when I need to and just kind of like 930 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: have this flexible schedule. And I look back and I 931 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: remember thinking, sometimes we got to like put ourselves on 932 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: pause when I say be patient, because in my mind, 933 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: I kept thinking, oh, I want to have a twenty 934 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: twenty baby. Let me just tell your house house. Sometimes 935 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 2: we just don't make no sense. A sorry, I want 936 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 2: to have my baby in twenty twenty, because twenty twenty 937 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 2: is like a cool year. It's like twenty twenty twenty, 938 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: the year of vision. How dope would it be for 939 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: my baby's birthday to be in twenty twenty and to 940 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: be able to say that, why does that matter? 941 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 3: Why don't know? 942 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: That's not what it? 943 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: No, it don't matter, no, like what exactly? And I 944 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: think that goes back to here's another tip. Be realistic, right, 945 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: be optimistically realistic. Ooh and so to me, what that 946 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: means is, Okay, you have this vision in mind. Part 947 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 1: of trusting that process is not putting specific time constraints 948 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: on things, right, or not putting specific details in there. 949 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: So us saying we want the podcast to have an 950 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: impact and grow, right, that doesn't necessarily mean that we 951 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: wanted to hit or we had in mind we had 952 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: to hit one million downs, right, but we knew we 953 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: wanted to have an impact. So then no matter what 954 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: number we hit, and we're still achieving the goal we 955 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: set out to accomplish, right. 956 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 2: Yes. The one thing I want to say, dom is 957 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 2: I've been following this group and if you're not familiar 958 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: with them, lady, go check them out. Abraham Hicks on 959 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: Instagram and YouTube, actually Instagram and YouTube Abraham Hicks. And 960 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 2: it's this I want to say, Energy Collective that really 961 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: talks for a lot about manifestation and mindset, and I 962 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: really resonate with a lot of their content. Check it 963 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 2: out and see this for you. One of the things 964 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: that they say is be general in your thought, focus 965 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: on the emotion and not the detailed way. And so 966 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 2: when I think about be optimistically realistic, part of me 967 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: is wondering should we say be optimistically general? Because I 968 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 2: don't know about you, but when I hear realistic, it 969 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: depends on the person. Sometimes if you share a dream 970 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 2: with someone, or let's say we were sharing with someone like, yeah, 971 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 2: we want to hit a million, some people wouldn't see 972 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 2: that as being realistic. Sometimes our dreams seem so big 973 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: that it doesn't seem realistic to us in the moment. 974 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 2: So if we do go with that tip, don't let 975 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: the realistic part phase you, if that makes sense, because 976 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 2: sometimes what we're manifesting is so extraordinary, right that it doesn't. 977 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: Mean is this? 978 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: Can this really happen? Right? 979 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 3: Right? 980 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: So like having a baby is realistic, right, but saying 981 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: I want my twenty twenty baby that may not have 982 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: been has to look okay exactly you see what? 983 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I gotcha? 984 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, that makes perfect sense. 985 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: Like saying I'm going to pass the exam is realistic, 986 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: but saying Okay, I'm going to pass the exam on 987 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: this specific date and with this exact score that might 988 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: not be realistic, but the general concept of passing the 989 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: exam is realistic. 990 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: I love it. That makes perfect sense. Time I would 991 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 2: say you kind of touched on this, I would say, 992 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: educate yourself and surround yourself with folks who get it, 993 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: because I think that sometimes when you share it, like 994 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: I have a family member who I love dearly, and 995 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: I tend to live in the clouds, like I am 996 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 2: the person who will, because I sometimes just live in 997 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 2: the future so much like I'll go spend the money 998 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 2: on something that I that is an investment, and I'm like, damn, 999 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 2: I'm down to take the risks because I'm like, oh, 1000 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 2: but I know that this is coming, even though it's 1001 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: going to stick around for to come, or even when 1002 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: it's going to come, when I don't even know when 1003 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 2: it's going to come, right, Like I am the person 1004 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 2: that will. I'm like, let's do it, let's go all in. 1005 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 2: Whereas other people, some people that I share these goals with, 1006 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: they're more like I'm very grounded. They're like, I'm on 1007 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: the ground, you up in the clouds. I'm on the ground. 1008 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 2: And so sometimes you have to be mindful of like 1009 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: who are you sharing these goals and dreams with And 1010 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: if they are super grounded, are they willing to come 1011 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: up in the clouds with you for a little bit 1012 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 2: and just see the vision with you and fill it 1013 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: with you and that vision with you and then they 1014 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 2: can go back down to their their comfort zone, but 1015 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: just seeing it with you, because I think sometimes being 1016 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 2: with someone who can see it for you and with 1017 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: you is so important too, so you're not alone. So 1018 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 2: I've had, like you said, Dom you coaches, mentors, a shaman, 1019 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: my acupuncture is, my nutrition is I mean, I've had 1020 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: a whole team of people that I've been working with 1021 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 2: on this fertility journey Who've been holding this baby for 1022 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: me energetically, and so yes, having people around you who 1023 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: get it, if you know, you have the naysayers and 1024 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 2: folks that are like, oh, you can't do that shit. 1025 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 2: I know sometimes for us you're like, oh, well that 1026 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 2: and that inspires me. It turns me on for people 1027 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: to say you can't do it. Okay, some people are 1028 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: like that right, And every once in a while, I 1029 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: may have a situation where like someone doubts me and 1030 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it feels me, But I prefer to 1031 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 2: just be in a space where people who are like 1032 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: gonna push me forward, right, And I have that sort 1033 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 2: of that contrast, if that makes sense exactly. 1034 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 3: And so like the way I hear that is the 1035 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: intentional about your team. 1036 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: Yes, the intentional about your team yep. 1037 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: And so to recap, we have let go of control, 1038 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: act as if practice patience, be optimistically realistic, and be 1039 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,479 Speaker 1: intentional about your team. 1040 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 2: That's right, and just remember lating the answers are in 1041 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: the journey. Even though we're going through a tough time, 1042 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 2: there's always something that we can learn from the experience. 1043 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 2: And I can honestly say I don't know about you, 1044 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 2: don but I can honestly say that I wouldn't take 1045 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 2: anything away. Yes, it was so hard, but I wouldn't 1046 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: take anything away from what I experienced because I am 1047 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: now a much better vessel. Not that we're going to 1048 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 2: be perfect when you get what you want, and I'm 1049 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 2: not going to be like the perfect mom. I'm going 1050 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 2: to make mistakes, but I am such a great vessel 1051 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 2: now compared to where I was before, because of what 1052 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 2: I've been able to heal, what I've been able to 1053 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 2: heal through right, what I've been able to learn about, 1054 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, unmedicated births and things that I want to do. 1055 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm just so much more prepared in this state. And 1056 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: so God really came through and gave me when I needed, 1057 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: exactly when I needed. 1058 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't have set it better exactly what you needed, 1059 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: exactly when you needed it. 1060 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 2: Hey lady, it's Terry here from the Herspace podcast, and 1061 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: I have some exciting news for you. I just published 1062 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: my self help book, How to Glow Up as You 1063 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 2: Grow Up, your go to guide for overcoming obstacles and 1064 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 2: making lemonade. 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